STEELDIVE 1970C. 2023 Version. Can this AliExpress icon finally win me over? Plus Poll analysis.

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
  • The Steeldive 1970 (Steeldive Willard) is an iconic homage watch. It pays homage to the legendary Seiko 6105 worn by Capt Willard in Apocalypse Now.
    it is therefore better known as a Captain Willard Homage...and there have been many.
    This is the 2023 version with Tri-Coloured Lume. The STEELDIVE SD1970C
    The Steeldive Willard has had a resurgence of late with reviewers new and old looking to capitalise on its popularity.
    I had left it alone, having had bought it twice prior to my reviewing days. I was not impressed then.
    I then bought another from AliExpress in Feb 2023 which I reviewed...it was a disaster!
    This is the Steeldive sd 1970c's last chance to impress.
    Can it convince me? Can it convince you?
    You can buy the Steeldive SD1970C from AliExpress via my affiliate link below.
    s.click.aliexp...
    Of course you will pay no extra but you will be supporting the channel going forward.
    Thank you for your support :)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 92

  • @tonyrome655
    @tonyrome655 Рік тому +17

    It’s a Seiko homage. Misaligned chapter rings and bezels are intentional as they copied those features from the originals. 🤣

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. Рік тому +7

    I missed the poll sadly but my SD 1970 is fine. Tri coloured lume is all well and good, but they should upgrade this to a double domed crystal, this would take the watch to another level. And while they're at it, the need to supply better straps than these hideous ones!

  • @TheDokoBG
    @TheDokoBG 2 місяці тому

    Just got my original 1970 with the updated clasp and it is perfect QC and the bezel perfectly aligned - so happy with it for the price.

  • @TheRealWillGeronimo
    @TheRealWillGeronimo 7 місяців тому +1

    I own the Addiesdive version and it pretty nice. It’s my 1st diver watch and certainly won’t be my last! Great stuff!

  • @WILLNOTCOMPLY72
    @WILLNOTCOMPLY72 Рік тому +2

    I'm really happy you got a good one!! This keeps my hopes up for mine which should be here in the next 2 days. Great video mate! Congratulations again on finally getting a winner 🏆😁

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      ..long time coming! :)

    • @WILLNOTCOMPLY72
      @WILLNOTCOMPLY72 Рік тому

      @@johnswatchjoint well.... Shite. Remember I told you that I was expecting my first 1970 In any day? Well today's the day! Now... Considering this is my first go round with this watch and you're on like your 30th or 40th or something ridiculous like that... I feel just horrible telling you that my first is... Well.... In a word.... PERFECT!! It is spot on. None of the issues you've had mate. Man I feel both relieved and kinda bad that you've had such shite luck my friend. Well at least you've finally got a good one. Now that I've got one and it's almost perfect... I'm gonna rip it apart and mod it! 🤣 LMAO. Looking forward to your next vid mate!! Peace, love and happiness from across the pond!

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      @@WILLNOTCOMPLY72 You bugger! First time too!!! Seriously well done. Wear it in health my friend ;)

  • @ScottPC
    @ScottPC 2 місяці тому

    Mine just arrived and happy to say on mine they've fixed all the issues on yours! Seems like they are pulling quality together a little higher!

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  2 місяці тому

      Glad you got a good one. I got another Steeldive in from the recent sales and sent it back. Same old for me 😞

  • @thebaldwatchcollector
    @thebaldwatchcollector Рік тому +1

    What a great colour combo, hard to knock these for their prices. An improvement on your last experience for sure

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      You got that right. Insult to injury when the watch won the competition...but now I can see why if you get a good one :)

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier97 24 дні тому

    Fine review. Generally i avoid homages of existing originals, but Seiko' game of limited releases and overpricing is stupid and tiresome. More importantly, they don't do a such a nice lumed bezel and such a nice color combination. I particularly like the loud minutes hand amongst the black. Cheers.

  • @grahamwallace
    @grahamwallace Рік тому +5

    To my eyes there’s nothing worse than a big chunky case paired with a 20mm strap. I’d much prefer a 22mm strap on anything over a 42mm case. Interesting poll. Cheers!

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +2

      That's another question for a poll haha. I really don't like 22mm. Take the Orient divers for example...really doesn't suit the watch. Think it would be a 50/ 50 split but each to their own. Thanks for watching.

    • @robotpicnic6508
      @robotpicnic6508 Рік тому +2

      Agreed, I even prefer 24mm. Improves the appearance and comfort in my opinion.

    • @tallon3925
      @tallon3925 Рік тому +2

      @@johnswatchjoint I definitely prefer 20mm lug width at the maximum- anything bigger generally signals a “dinner-plate” type watch on wrist. Then again, I’m not the target market for Panerai and the like- my heart lies with classic, timeless dimensions like 34-36mm case size with 18mm lug width.
      The trend of making watches larger overtime seems to be partly correlated with their archaism. In the modern age, watches have been mostly replaced by checking the time on your phone or wearing smart watches. In the eyes of watch manufacturers- particularly those brands not catering to the hardcore enthusiasts- they recognize that most consumers in the market for a watch want something that others will be able to notice. Hence, we get “reissues” like the Bulova Lunar Pilot in 45mm even though the original was far smaller in dimensions.
      I don’t think there’s anything wrong with enjoying larger watches, but I feel that most modern watches trade elegance for status.

    • @16jan1986
      @16jan1986 Рік тому +1

      I hate 22 my preferred is 18 but 19 and 20 has merites but any thing larger is just excessive

    • @michaelcoates7475
      @michaelcoates7475 Рік тому +2

      I agree, I own this watch and think the bracelet looks too thin. 22mm would have looked more proportionate.

  • @robotpicnic6508
    @robotpicnic6508 Рік тому +1

    I really appreciate your watch reviews and especially your honesty and integrity. In your experience, is there another ali express brand with similar specs and price, but better QC?

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      Are you looking for a diver specifically?

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +2

      Seestern 62 mas is the best quality diver for the price on Ali. You pay a bit more but it is awesome. Their 600t is a cracker too and it is on deals just now. Thorn BB58 might be another option too :)

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 Рік тому

    Glad you a got a good one this time. I’m surprised by the poll results also. You’re right though. You can only review the watches you get. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thanks for the great review!

  • @michaelperry9261
    @michaelperry9261 Рік тому +2

    I got mine from Steeldive UK & had no problems

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      That's exactly the same answer I got in the comments from everyone but the poll says otherwise and so do my results. Great you got one first time !

  • @BAF605
    @BAF605 Рік тому +1

    I bought two no logo versions some time ago before everyone and his dog were buying these. They cost a little more back then, though not much, and I suspect they had better QC in consequence. Continual paring on price is bound to cause problems. I've always thought their Marine Master clomage is a better watch.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      You are probably right there. I have nothing against Steeldive. I've just had three really bad 1970's ;)

  • @JoseRojas-ed5sk
    @JoseRojas-ed5sk 2 місяці тому

    Thanks you, excelent

  • @Slice1985
    @Slice1985 Рік тому

    looks sporty. love the colours. ordered today

  • @Man_Ray78
    @Man_Ray78 Рік тому

    I bought the blue with a bracelet that went off straight away. I ordered it with this strap, also blue, but i can not use it with eater of them.

  • @richcleaver
    @richcleaver Рік тому

    Another quality review John 👍. Not a fan of these personally, so no temptation for a change 😄

  • @michaelkolonis2280
    @michaelkolonis2280 Рік тому

    Having bought and worn the 1970 and the 1980, I can say from personal experience is that I love to wear these watches, and isn't that the only standard that matters to an individual..do you like and prefer to wear a particular watch over any other in your collection ?. I LOVE THE SD 1970 AMD THE SD 1980

  • @JonTheComputerDoctor
    @JonTheComputerDoctor Рік тому

    No obligation but I would be happy to take a look at your problem Watch and see if we can sort most of the problems out.
    No charge, great vid as usual.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      Hi Jon. Thanks for the kind offer. I may remove it from the case and look at a mod. Could just be that the whole movement is skewed and the crown is running against one side but I also see a huge difference in the gap where the crown meets the case. Nice and uniformly wide on the new one but very narrow and poorly finished on the first one...at least it didn't cost me anything so I have a free movement and crystal haha

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      ...and thanks for your message re Thorn . Just viewed it just now. I will contact Thorn if it is ok to use your images? May help in future production runs.

    • @JonTheComputerDoctor
      @JonTheComputerDoctor Рік тому

      @@johnswatchjoint Yes no problem.

    • @richcleaver
      @richcleaver Рік тому

      Hope you don't mind me asking you both, I've got a Thorn on the way and was wondering if you've encountered issues? Many thanks.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      Hi Rich. Apart from the speck of dust on my dial which is easily remedied I haven't but Jon sent me info on issues he had with his link pins. They are two pieces...one long and one short which screws on tight. Some of Jon's were rotating freely but he used some loctite to fix. If you do encounter this, just raise a dispute and show them a vid with the issue. Pretty sure they would send new bracelet if that was the case. Mine was fine so hopefully it's is an isolated case. :)

  • @HisDadsBar
    @HisDadsBar Місяць тому

    I love mine. Not sure what the issue is? I love love love mine.

  • @pdmotors5027
    @pdmotors5027 Рік тому +1

    A good watch, but this colour combo just not doing it for me. I must have been lucky with my watch as I had no issues.

  • @davemck1887
    @davemck1887 Рік тому

    Like Alex I missed the previous review but I own the original too. When it comes to the Cupboard of doom there really is nowhere to go but the Understairs of doom. Good stuff mate.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      Haha. Cheers Alex. You"ll have to back to the beginning of the channel to find out why it's called the cupboard of doom. It is our pantry under the stairs and when we moved in many years ago...there were some creepy goings-on 👻

  • @anthonydevono8833
    @anthonydevono8833 Рік тому +1

    I’ve had 1 steeldive was ok crown was very gritty wouldn’t buy another one I’m getting more picky about my watches now

  • @garyk8285
    @garyk8285 Рік тому +1

    Nice piece. You'll probably pick up a chick wearing that one at the bar ;)

  • @redtill1
    @redtill1 Місяць тому

    That strap has got to be one of the worst design rubber straps ever made .Do like the orange details 👍

  • @bluecollarwatches7048
    @bluecollarwatches7048 Рік тому +1

    They really increased the price of those.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      They have but already starting to see prices fluctuate. Mirroring what Seiko are doing with their specials. Never miss a trick when potential profits are involved 😆

    • @bluecollarwatches7048
      @bluecollarwatches7048 Рік тому

      @@johnswatchjoint yeah I spent more than I thought I would during the last sale since I got four watches.

  • @firepower9966
    @firepower9966 5 місяців тому

    My Steeldive 1970R arrived 4 days after order, perfect condition, pure white dial, male end links, milled clasp. no issues. Very Happy with quality for the price. I have 6 inch wrist and was worried it be too big but it wears well.

  • @gipgap4
    @gipgap4 Рік тому

    I bought the original variant of this watch from Steeldive UK. The first watch had a wonky indices at the 12 so complained and was sent a replacement with a wonky 9 instead. Never again.

  • @markmahood3093
    @markmahood3093 Рік тому

    An fkm rubber strap from AliExpress looks fantastic on the sd1970

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +2

      Yeah...just put this one on my waffle which is the same as the Seestern 62mas. Very comfy indeed and helps balance the watch :)

  • @9426sunny
    @9426sunny Рік тому

    The bezel insert's thickness perfectly fits to the bezel? Isn't slightly thicker(higher) than the bezel? Please let me know.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      The insert sits half a mm higher than the bezel itself and the crystal sits another 1mm proud of that :)

    • @9426sunny
      @9426sunny Рік тому

      @@johnswatchjoint Thanks for the info!

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      No probs my friend 🤠

  • @Emmepi37
    @Emmepi37 Рік тому +1

    I prefer original 1970, not fan of orange paint on hands/bezel.

  • @jsenear
    @jsenear Рік тому

    You did get a bad one. Mine is perfect. Right out of the box.

  • @matthewroxy3528
    @matthewroxy3528 Рік тому

    Your problem is the movement and the dial is not straight to the Shoff is rubbing on the case the basil is perfect

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      I take it you are talking about my original review? If so it was a lot more than just the movement. On taking it apart we found a lot of awful things...

  • @H0kram
    @H0kram Рік тому

    Oh dear.
    The crown part is like the anti ASMR for watch enthusiasts.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      It is gruesome...but I had to show it because I was being accused of hamming the watches faults up...I think the watch made its flaws pretty obvious haha!

    • @H0kram
      @H0kram Рік тому

      @@johnswatchjoint Oh yea, and it's worth sharing. Flip a coin and see what QC you got on your Steeldive.

  • @matthewroxy3528
    @matthewroxy3528 Рік тому

    Rdunae R2X Captain Willard 6105 Men's Watch NH35 Movement Sapphire C3 Luminous 150m Waterproof Automatic Mechanical Wristwatches check this out maybe it is better. The case is spot on of this or that one because still dive is not spot on with original

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому +1

      You haven't subscribed. If you check out my videos you will see that I have reviewed the R2X and the Skinny Rdunae. I rate them very highly :)

  • @bradcarpo5917
    @bradcarpo5917 9 місяців тому

    Did I see a second hand skip...... 3 times?

  • @goldfools5445
    @goldfools5445 Рік тому

    Stairwell of hell…

  • @csigouin1
    @csigouin1 Рік тому

    Measurements off?

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      !?

    • @csigouin1
      @csigouin1 Рік тому

      Case diameter: 43.8mm ( without crown)
      Case length: 46.8mm (lug to lug)
      Case thickness: 13.5mm

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Рік тому

      I do not understand you. Whose measurements are you quoting? The measurements I quote are the measurements of the actual watch I received. They were not the same as specified.

  • @bigriceburner
    @bigriceburner 3 місяці тому

    All of you guys are the guinea pigs. People like me come late to the party and everything we buy is perfect because the companies have had time to perfect their items. Not to mention the after these perfected items have been on the market for so long, they also cost less money.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh dear...we'll see how long that lasts haha! 😅

    • @bigriceburner
      @bigriceburner 2 місяці тому

      So far so good. But think about it, they know how closely we view these... hmm just watch a video. They aren’t going backwards I can bet you. All prejudices aide, they are Chinese, and they will continue to kill the market with honestly better products such as our beloved Willard. Mine is perfect and I know and can feel quality when I hold it. By all means use at lease a 10 power loupe guys. Only that way can you truly appreciate what you have. Look at a San Martin up close.... I dare you.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  2 місяці тому +1

      Latest update...Steeldive still ain't perfect haha 😆

    • @bigriceburner
      @bigriceburner 2 місяці тому

      @@johnswatchjoint nothing is perfect in our world. 🙂

  • @DeadtotheWorld91
    @DeadtotheWorld91 Місяць тому

    I mean if they were like £75 you could probably look past some of these minor issues. Oh... 👀 Pay a grand for a Seiko and still get these problems and you can moan. Pay pennies you might have to lower your expectations.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint  Місяць тому

      It's all about perspective. There are plenty of watches that are cheaper than this and do it better. It's a very over hyped watch and if you have followed the series on it and looked at the poll you will see I had a total of 4 of these. Including the first one that died altogether. Still have not got that special SD1970 everyone talks about :(