Fast Sawmill, Fast Sawyer
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- A pair of Bakers powering the sawmill. The mill is a modified Frick sawmill, with air-dogs and a hydraulic log turner. The sawyer and crew run a commercial mill, sawing high-quality hardwoods.
Trumbull County steam show, Middlefield, Ohio
June 3, 2011
Those guys aren't a bunch of hobbyists doing a demo at a county fair. They've got work to do, and they ain't messing around.
I wish I was there with them . It looks like a lot of fun and good hard work .
You know you can proudly say you are American when your grandfather who went through WWI,WWII, the Great Depression, the Vietnam war, 9/11 and 2000 has built one of these :)
22 people that voted this down are OSHA and EPA employees.
+GGigabiteM Fuck the EPA
+Vicsonvee & to piss them off even more start shoveling the sawdust into both fireboxes of the traction engines
Vicsonvee Yeah because clean air is overrated. What a fucking idiotic comment.
@@Vicsonvee Agreed. EPA is very hypocritical and useless.
There were kids on place, all those men have worked with those things all their life. Was you seeing someone with out fingers or hand? I am 45 years old worked also with very old fashion machines, with sharp things, steam hammers, open belts. Have learned to work and be with those things when I was small. Was told what can do and what not. I have all fingers, everything what I had also when I borned. You are not coming carelessness, you know what is danger there. You learn to be carefull.
I was a tea and coffee planter in Africa for many years and on my estate we had a similar device but,at some time before my arrival,it had been converted from a steam engine to an electrically driven saw.I t ran perfectly for years.The only maintenance being oil,keeping dust out of the motor and ensuring that the tracks did not shake their holding down bolts loose.All our building timber on the estate was supplied with this device.For all I know it is running still.
A tea and coffee planter in Africa? That is very cool.
Not all of us are city fokes. I grew up on a farm where we raised what we ate and had a saw mill that hooked to a drum on the rear wheel of a 1 ton truck. To many kids grow up not knowing the joy of farm work..yep farm work is hard but can be a joy to
Despite what anyone thinks i think it is great to see these engines working as they should and the guys operateing them very well brilliant!! thankyou.(from an engine owner and operator)
I have to say I could watch this all day so cool
+iwantosavemoney
Addictive ....
The old Frick mill I was around when I was a kid is still going. No hydraulic or air anything unless you count the wheezing you do on the end of a board, slab, hook or log. Really good learning experience!.
that the old style sawmill U have 2 pull the Rachel ever time U want 2 saw a line that 1 doesn't have a man log turner its been changed 2 a auto log turner most of old frick sawmills had the lumber gauge wheel instead of the dial wheel like that 1 OMG 12 3 2O22
My Dad loves this clip, he has watched it about 100 times, and shows his mates, and my Mum and I sit and hear "weeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"..... "weeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr" and I say to Day "You're not watching that bloody sawmill video again are you?"... hahaha, so funny.
Amish! They do great work
OSHA can go pound sand for all I care.
Safety is dictated by common sense, not bullshit regs.
It brings back memories, I was a tail sawyer on a 54" #4 Ireland back in the days
I did not leave any comment about degeneration I support the Amish and think what they do is okay for their way of life . The old ways are sometimes the better for our families to remain closer. I like real craftsmanship and working with my hands.
you made more Co2 with your fucking comment than this steam engine consumes with one log
I could watch this all day long.. beautiful.
Would love to spend a year or 5 with these guys.
Those tractors are both California emission compliant for 2014 level A. Right?
fuck your prius.
'merica!
Of course they are; it's easy to verify, just plug your scan tool into the OBDII port located um..........I guess somewhere. Just verify no codes are set and it should all be good!
Doesn't matter, they get the job done with a minimum of fuss,no electronic nannies to screw up.
George Boyd Uhh..thanks, I guess. That was supposed to be extreme sarcasm. I didn't expect a real reply.
No offense meant. Those old tractors were making some good stack talk,were they not!
this is what you tube is about ,superb working videos. and so quick ? just a pleasure to watch ..
I love coming back to this video, because unlike most sawyers, these guys don't fuck around and dawdle.
how does that bed go back and forth so fast? I thought they had a pulley and cable on them?
Wow, did travis mahoney really just type that??
I admire and respect the Amish. These people work hard and ask little of the government.
This is progress!No electronics to break down and frustrate the operators.
Lots to go wrong with the mechanics though. These machines might be good when they work, but they are a BITCH to try and repair and maintain otherwise.
When these old machines were state of the art 90% of the population lived on farms and the average life expectancy was 40.
No1HillBilly Exactly the point I was making!Our old machine was running in all weathers with the minimum of shelter;the boys,all untrained and unlettered, serving the machine knew how to fix anything that went wrong.Being nearly one hundred miles from the nearest town meant that we had to be self-reliant.I am aware that modern machinery is super reliable but,if something does go awry you a re stumped!
Squarerig One huge advantage of modern machinery is energy density. A steam engine from 1880 puts out maybe 20 HP in mechanical power and is 10% efficient.
With diesel tractors the power output of these is 50 times that, and the efficiency far higher. When it's time to harvest you hire the guy with the combines and he does 1500 acres in a day. You don't need everyone to know how to fix one because there are only a few needed to serve a community.
I work in a place that runs there CNC machines 24/7 360 days a year
synchronizing the Steam Engines is really cool. Good job!
In 1998 I was tail sawer on a similar 1920 nickel mill sawing lumber for my house and my father in laws shop at the farm. Good hard work. We drove the mill with a flat belt off of a PTO angle drive from a 1070 Case tractor. Work well and speed was similar to this one. pay attention that lumber comes fast.
I've cut Millions board feet with diesel power. give my left arm to try it with steam
Looks like Amish running the show!
I saw wood cut at the old iron works at Batsto in the Jersey pine barrens. The mill's round blade was powered by a water wheel and it ran slowly but didn't bog down on heavy stock.
Whatever; OSHA is defacto arm of the INSurance INDustry looking after it's bottom line, because accidents did/do happen needlessly by unsafe conditions. Where I'm no fan of the INS IND in general they do have more data what creates a hazard than anyone one of us as individuals will ever know in our life time. In as humans are good at creating new ways to be stupid out of ignorance, there always be new regulations created.
That is one hell of a sweet setup.
Saws better than a goddam Jimmy.
Definitely no ear muffs. No earplugs I bet. Absolutely awesome though. My great grandpa ran a saw mill like this with an huge hit or miss engine after he came back from the pacific theatre.
Old saw mill saying you haven't sawed until you have sawed with steam
+John Sole May be BUT do you have to have an air carriage and a hydraulic turner like this one to do it? We never did and still don't.
Yea, The one I worked at had a big honk'n Cummins diesel for power, but I loaded the logs and turned them. The only air was at lunch when the old timers started telling wild stories! LOL
The old current one has a 4-71 made back in the 50's and the only steam is from the off-bearers. The son and grandson run it now but when the dad and uncle were alive it was Katy, bar the door till dark after we got out of school. That's when the 'help' arrived. US!
all well its alright i believe you and we really should cut back on tree usage as much as we can. its going to run out just like oil will soon run out and when that happens all of the world is going to fall apart.i will definably have to look around some more about stone houses myself as well, sorry if i sounded like an asshole at first I'm a little to used to dealing with trolls and weirdo's attacking me.
The thing is it runs on anything from diesel fuel to buffalo shit.
unfortunately it is shocking how bad its getting but whats really bad is that by the time we figure it out there will be so few left and so many people that almost the whole planet will die off from lack of oxygen.At least that's how i see it.
we should but so long as the government says otherwise theirs not a damn thing we can do about it.one last thing, how the hell are we going to hold the stone together then?after that you've made you point on stone being a substitute a good one.
you people sure didn't give a shit back when we started cutting them did you?thing is we need at least some wood for building homes and other buildings, if we used metal then the prices will be so high only the richest people could afford such homes.
not really fast at all he's killing the grade it's ok for a peckerwood mill But I've seen lots os manuals faster
The 2 Bakers total 165 rated horsepower, but in fact dyno somewhat higher.
Some of the logs were enormous, and all hardwood.
Because those people are knowing what they are doing. Not making stupidy.
Some very nice old engine there, That the way to go steam. Can use the scraps and saw dust for power. I wonder if they where ever use for trains? I see the tractor wheels on em. They don't mess around there getting her done! Try to fine a saw blade like that one now days he heee
Yes. Steam Locomotives were used to pull trains. They were first used in the 1820's and most railways around the world were done with using them for profit service by the 1970's. They were too inefficient and too labor-intensive compared to diesel and electric locomotives.
No1HillBilly True! There's a school that teaches that not far from here. Maybe it won't die out with all the band mills popping up.
Main thing about saw Lumber is have a lot of power
what are those two jointed pivoting arms for? cool rig either way!
old machines still work even in 2012
OSHA is watching you. looks like about $50,000 worth of fines.
Amish rules are all over the board. In a lot of ordnungs, they'd be allowed to use a mill like that as long as it was powered by water or a diesel engine. I guess rudolf diesel must've had religious beliefs that they found OK, or they wouldn't allow that, either. I know an amishman who does cabinetmaking work, and he has electric tools. He's allowed by his ordnung to have them as long as someone else supplies the electricity (e.g., he can use them on someone's jobsite, but not at home).
This guy knows how to saw lumber
I can smell the sawdust. Skillz.
Il peut bien être rapide , il refend que des billes de huit pieds .
Amazing motor its the time i saw one
Man O Man , That Brings Back a lot of Memories. The last "Circle Mill" I owned and operated had a "SUPER 250 CUMMINS DIESEL'' When it "BLEW-UP" (engine) I Got a 400 HORSEPOWER CUMMINS and was going to "REPOWER" with THAT. But It was "GETTING A LITTLE CRAZY" even for ME.
So I changed to a LARGE Horizontal Thin Kerf Band Saw.
the pyramids are in a triangle and certainly are not built the same as your average two story or one story building. a highrise building uses metal and similar frame designs (in most case" as what you would use when building a wooden house.and plus what about heating the house during the cold winters then, yes you've shown me a way to keep it cool but how about keeping it nice and warm during winter.
Is this in Ohio in Amish Country?
A very very dangerous job.
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The best part at the end when the sawyer hops up on the log to finish cutting the board with the chainsaw. It’s clear that guy has sawn a lot of lumber. I remember those.
You think that I don't know that this kind of stuff is dangerous?
Life is dangerous. Get over it.
degeneration? :) A pretty harsh word 1 used out of context of it's meaning My understanding is that the Amish choice what technology to use to preserve the faith & community. The do use technology, until they give that up & go back to using pointed sticks&sharp rocks 1 can't use the word degeneration. INMO the Amish are less a threat than those other Xtian fundamentalists affect us all by shutting down a long period scientific discovery
Mesmerizing.
Water powered the world for quite a few years, either by turning a water wheel, or being converted to steam.
There's a comment that it's not steam because there's black smoke, the black smoke is from the wood burning to turn the water into steam.
Unless this is a commercial operation OSHA wouldn't be concerned. However if it where commercial, the workman's comp insurance carrier might shut them down, canceling their policy. In most states employees are required to be covered by workman's comp, no coverage no operation Not say OSHA isn't a factor at all.
Snort, the only difference now, is that they use diesel engines, with a clutch, and 10 dozen mostly useless guards all over the place. All the stuff you have to work around on newer equipment can take you longer to make the cut instead of shorter. Folks have became too sissified these days, afraid to pick their own noses unless there's a safety item attached.
And I was learning also be carefull when was kid with those things. But when walking jacket open, reading all from books and trust OSHA. So everybody else should take care of you, then is big risk for happening something. Dangerous things can do also with small risk. Thinking self, beeing carefull and knowing what to do.
And the guy wearing the red cap standing in the most dangerous spot in a sawmill looking right at the blade. It is where everything possible gets thrown by the circular saw.
Observer with the red hat standing right in line with the saw blade turning towards him.. worst possible place to stand in a sawmill.. that is where all the holes are in a sawmill building... from tossed chunks of wood and iron hit in a log.
Great to see the Bakers and the sawing.
that's not a bad idea, we need to start doing the same in the us soon.what most loggers do to save trees is they only cut half of them down and leave the other half for next year and by then the ones they cut will have new ones in there place.they aren't the biggest but its an idea that works so far at the very least.
I can tell the blade needs to be sharpened, based on the high-pitched sound it's making while cutting
So they actually use these antiques for their every day job? Note i didn't mean that in a bad way, i love old machines. One just doesn't regularly see them in use.
Lols at the dude with the chainsaw in amongst all this old gear! :D
I believe they use engines of all sorts, just not to power the vehicles they farm with or travel in. They also use modern machinery with engines powering them and pulled by horses rather than powered by PTO from a tractor.
It might not even be coal powering those engines. A fair number of surviving steam engines have switched to wood burning because it is easier to obtain and arguably better for the environment.
Those engines might very well be stoking up the slabwood produced as a byproduct of the mill, turning waste into fuel to cut more.
+renegadeoflife87
Looked like the one on the right was using coal ....
And it looks like "coal smoke"
I don't know what smoke wood makes .... :)
They are coal fired.
Looks like coal at 6:35 into the video.
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No, they have a big sprocket chain hooked to the carriage that pulls it along, and it is controlled by a belt on the saw frame. Really simple, back then there was no hydraulics, only steam. Plus, the steam only ran that big flywheel on the side of the engine, everything it ran was mechanical.
I didn't think the omish could use anything motorized or their church and families would disown them. I guess they made an exception to their rule.
very nice
could you tell me if you have to kiln dry the wood board after
thanks
Nowadays for the environment we need something like the following video machines cuts very clean
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hmm well now, you have proven to me that stone can be used in the housing business.Such a same that we will never move away from wood any time soon thanks to corporate greed.
if i had to guess i would say they probably have each engine doing a different job like one running the blade the other running the feed ? not sure though
I'm betting this is near Charm Ohio. I've see this mill run in person and it works like this all day long, every day.
I don't know why I didn't think of that. I was born and raised on a farm and we used treshing machines that we turned the belt over to get things going the rite way. That was a long time ago and I forgot, I have a good memory but it's short, lol. This is a great vid I love that old stuff and it's amazing how well it still works today.
They know how to work.I could never do the job they do.
But using steam and coal fired boilers unreal ,wow.
I worked at aa sawmill in the 1970s. It was all manual except one of them, I worked 2, had a chain conveyor system that would bring the logs within 3ft of the carriage. It was run by a D8 Cat engine with a straight pipe and one speed all day long till an hour out for noon. I hand stacked 8X8s, 8X10s, 10X10s, 10X12s, 12X12s. They were cut for parking lot blocks/stops. I later became a turner and was slated to become a sawyer, but jumped ship at SW Mo around by Okla. I was a young bull then.
Video ended a minute too soon.. wanted to watch them turn down that last log and make the next cut..
But a great video to see the two steam engines power that saw...
OSHA would have a field day !
Shove osha
The mill looks like an old Corley. My uncle rand a mill for years using Corley equipment only on a larger scale. It was powered by a 400 hp. electric motor.
We have a 1911 Lane sawmill, that was ran by water for almost 60 years. We use a Cat D8 for a power unit now, but we have to turn our logs by hand with cant-dogs.
Looked like about a 3 by 6 he kicked off.
I guess that would be their actual cut.
How is the log carriage moved? Salem Winch or shot gun ? Nice little carriage dog set up too.
This is every bit as fast on the cut as any modern mill. Love it.
you maybe helped stack wood but you didn't do it by yourself. I would love to watch you try and life even an 8 x 8 by yourself.
Does one engine drive just the saw blade and the other the "accessories" like the table, carriage, etc.?
nice machinery , old machines wo'nt give up , new ones are dieing after few years !! :D
HATERS GONNA HATE ;D
Coolest thing here
Oh, that's OK. They probably wouldn't want or let you or your kids around it anyhow.
water world machine,,,,,2 minit later,,,,all blasting.
That is a fantastic saw, it makes my bandrack setup look very slow. Does anybody know the power output of these baker engines?
so it seems pretty careless to walk between log on carriage and blade looks scary watching him .
Much respect to the people that put that rig together . Awesome job
Without knowing more, have you ever seen a live amish or talked to one about their life style?
Sawyer is very good.