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Tibees,, I was really under the impression that you could not really read?,, somebody's space kit cadet thesis,, following around expanded english/not real communication in English but only is a deception,, meant to be/ nobody understands,?/meant to be that way/ kind of like string theory following all the strings around a big tangled ball of string lol! 🤗
@@nilanjanchanda597 LOL here's his thesis translated! I'm Michael cuckoo,, all tangled up in a ball of tangled up string,,/it's kind of like? being all tangled up in a black widow spiders web,, ready to eat you cuz you can't get away not funny,,,,,,,,,😇
One of the first things I was told when doing a PhD was "you're not expected to change the world". A small contribution is a catalyst to greater knowledge over time.
Im thinking..youre young, energetic and immersed in a subject..if youre going do anything it better be now. I guess your PHd is like getting a finger tip grasp onto the top floor of a members only club. It proves you may have some novel thoughts someday, given the chance, and youre commited.
After reading the comments I see a very obvious problem with perception of scientists by general public: They expect literally every thesis and paper to be some "huge discovery" or "huge contribution" all by itself and every single scientist to have made some great discoveries... In reality almost noone's thesis is something truly special. Mostly it is just a summary of very routine simple work. I "love" how all people who are far from academia like to imagine that science is still done by lone geniuses, and that every step is some "revolutionary discovery". And if you fail to live up to that ridiculous standards, a lot of people will claim "you are not a real scientist". In reality it is all about having huge lab, with many trained people, expensive equipment and good financing. And almost all work is slow process of incrementally accumulating new facts bit by bit
Kate S You summed up the problem quite well. People who criticise fields of study generally have little to no knowledge of those fields. They usually have unrealistic expectations and, in some, an agenda that goes against established scientific results. Tyson comes under regular attack because he's so public and will say what he thinks. He's an excellent communicator while never claiming to be an "Einstein" or "Galileo", rather just someone who's passionate about learning and science.
The irony is, if there is a "glamorous" field of science that is making incredible discoveries every day, it's astronomy. e.g. When I was born, we had no idea whether it was normal for stars to have planetary systems like our own, the existence of black holes was disputed, we didn't know whether the expansion was slowing down or speeding up etc etc. Now we've catalogued thousands of planets (and can infer that the great majority of stars have planetary systems), have photographed black holes, and measured the accelerating expansion. And even stuff that was recently thought impossible, like recording gravitational waves has been done. It's an amazing body of work, and the fact that it's a massive collaborative effort makes it all the more impressive IMO.
Actually you sound like someone very naive when it comes to academia. Every phd thesis must have something new and relevant for the cientific world. Most PhDs do their researches almost 100% by their own. Obviously, people thinking that every PhD thesis must discover something like Theory of Relativity, Quantum Mechanics etc, are also very naive. But you are wrong for being on the other extreme.
Nail on the head here. Just wanted to ad with the current dilemma with populism. It's unfortunate that some people's distrust to authority or otherwise bleeds into science. While such distrust can be useful in some situations, it is unnecessary doing real research. The only distrust you seemingly need in that regard should be against your own bias.
Neil was my Astronomy TA at the University of Texas and also a friend. He always has demonstrated an ability to take complex situations and make them understandable to anyone.
This is the only thing that matters. When my circuits class professor had hard to understand lectures, the TA in the course was incredible and I wouldn't have learned much in the course if not for him. A good TA can be MUCH more valuable to a student's career, inspiration, everything, than a professor.
Just like Neil deGrasse Tyson, you have an adept way of communicating your synopsis of his 370 page thesis to people such as myself, who failed miserably at their academic studies, but still enjoy learning from those who excelled to PhD level. Your voice is so gentle & pleasant to listen to which helps when trying to comprehend this complex subject.
100%. I really hope Tibees also flourishes in this field of science communication and education. I don't like Neil cuz he has a very cocky demeanor that makes him come off as arrogant. Trying to listen to him speak makes me angry.
This goes to show that science is a cooperative effort. 99+ % of professional scientists never make a name for themselves and are never mentioned in the history books. Fame is really hit or miss, but every one who becomes well known owes a great debt to all those who do the work. Neil found his niche as a communicator, and you also have a talent for that.
They make names for themselves. Just within the niche they work in. They are rock stars in their discipline. Ever heard of a wrestler(+real wrestling not soap opera wrestling) named Sudalaev? No. He is a legend, and an icon of 100's of million people. You are only an adherent of popular media and therefore limited in your scope of knowledge, success, and recognition. If it isn't on your favorite news medium then it doesn't count.
@@scottg6754 Are you trying to make a salient point? We all know that fame and fortune, in any particular endeavor, is arbitrary, like winning the lottery.
Everything about this journey, getting a copy of the thesis, understanding the thesis and then making a video so others can follow is remarkable. Young Ms you are brilliant. Thank you for a wonderful lesson.
I can get a copy of his thesis online ,,, I can also whisper in a bedtime story voice ,,, I just don’t see the point, prop up the sheep and they will fail you
@@f87115 You really don’t realize the work that’s been put in to make the video and the reason why? How are you this dense, among all the other commenters here?
While we justly celebrate the handful of geniuses who make profound breakthroughs in science and change the game, the meat and potatoes of science are the thousands of dedicated people who do the kind of work that Tyson did for his PhD. Without an abundance of such work, the supergeniuses would have nothing to make breakthroughs with. Most scientists know that they will labour in relative anonymity, their work known to only a handful of colleagues in their field. They do their work out of love for it, not just to become bigshots. However, Tyson did become a sort of bigshot in a particular specialty: science communication and popularization. It's a crucial job, since without it, we would not get any scientists at all. Someone has to inspire that kid with a backyard telescope to pursue their dream of becoming an astronomer, or that other kid with a butterfly collection to become a biologist. Few people have the necessary skill for this, and we should respect that skill. Really good ones don't show up very often. Isaac Asimov's thesis was so lame an item that it garnered a grand total of two citations, and his career as a researcher was nothing remarkable --- yet when he died, there were headline obituaries in every major newspaper in the world, with good reason.
Also a shout out to all the technicians and undergrads that support the aspiring doctors with their PhDs, even when the result is unlikely to be groundbreaking. Science is a collaborative effort that allows exceptionally brilliant minds to shine bright.
"science communication and popularization. It's a crucial job, since without it, we would not get any scientists at all. " If that were true, where did the first scientists come from, decades or centuries before "science communication and popularization" became a thing? I think your hypothesis is not grounded in reality.
Seems like a solid piece of work to me, thanks Tibees, for elaborating .:. I remember that time with my own thesis, an average thesis at best, but the hardest time ever in my life. Everything after seemed easy and, like Neil, I decided to pursue something very different. Somehow he learned to give the journalists the kind of language and story telling they wanted and he became the first person they would call whenever something spacey happened.
Iirc, he mentioned that there was a major discovery or a comet nearing earth the day he was filling in for more prominent astronomers. Major new networks called his place of work for comment and explanation and he was the only one available.
Fundamental to science communication is knowing the science so you can communicate it. Tyson obviously did some quality science. Just successfully competing for observation time at a world-class observatory puts you in an elite class of astronomers and astrophysicists. He built a solid foundation for his future success as a science communicator where he has excelled.
He has shown himself to be an intellectual imbecile … he is in fact a glorified entertainer a planetarium host … much like bill nye. He was also speaking allot of low IQ dribble about Corona … being a parrot of the gov and using the word “science “ in a way as to be heretical to science in route . You need to work on your assessment abilities sheeeesh
I'm about to start a Bachelor's Degree program in Metallurgical Engineering off the back of a Trade School degree in Welding and Fabrication Technology. I was the worst student ever when I was younger, spent 10 years working low skill jobs until I saved up enough to go back to school. I have tons of respect for people who can excel in their fields of science, I can't seem to learn without getting my hands on things.
Thank you for this information. I am an amateur astronomer that is wanting to get into professional, scientific research. I have spent months trying to learn about many of these things and seeing Neil discuss his specific research is exactly the details I’ve been looking for. Someone who is reporting exact observations with tools I understand how to use. I can’t wait to comb through his entire thesis to start coming up with observations of my own to start working on. I can’t wait to go back to school to start putting my work into practice!
@@alnatsya I’m now qualified to answer this question! If I were just starting out, I would begin by looking into B-V calculations using photometry. You can use research telescopes services like Slooh that give you access to telescopes for an affordable monthly price. This is a great place to start for all amateurs because it costs almost nothing. If you’d like to take pictures you should start with whatever camera you already own (including your smart phone!)
Neils work in science communication is stellar, it is interesting to see what he did do in academia but I don't think it's the main focus of his career.
Perhaps more entertainer than science communicator. He jumps to false conclusions a lot. Most of his errors could've been avoided if he didn't have such a neurotic need to sound smart
Tyson is not famous for being a good physicist. I mean, I'm sure he's pretty good. Good enough that he got a PhD, while I dropped the major as an undergrad. And he was good enough to get the positions that lead to his rise in the field where he actually shines, science communication. But he'll tell anyone who mentions his wife that she's the better scientist in their marriage by far and anyone who knows them both seems to agree.
At Cornell the phsysics dept. "encourages" the less than stellar students to move into astrophysics and astrophysics encourages the not so capable to try Planetary Sciences - Sagan's wing. And Sagan had the best weed on campus. That said, IIRC Tyson met Sagan when he was pretty young and became a protege and was not pushed down the chain like many others. The downside for working with Sagan was his terrible academic reputation for jumping peer-review and going public to the popular press with research and leaving other researches high and dry. It is how he was fired (refused tenure) at Harvard and would up in Drake Equation land. His education is very impressive and the people he learned from and worked with were top shelf. He was really quite brilliant. But he rubbed many of his peers the wrong way. They generally do not approve of publicly making lots of guesses about unknowns then when one of them is true, claiming "I was right and the first one to see this". And this was a theme in his work with NASA on planetary science. Issac Azimov had one of those unmeasurable IQ's and was a figure in the Mensa organization. He said Sagan was obviously smarter than himself.
When I was in high school I started watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos and got hooked. The thing I love about science is we build on our knowledge over time on what others have learned before us. I think for this very reason this is what makes us shine.
@@citrus4419 imagine, you're literally on a page dedicated to science literacy and further understanding.. and that is the extent of your contribution. Sad.
As someone who has a PhD (in economics), who then spent a number of years in academia before moving into consulting, a PhD is like a preparation for a career in academia, where you learn about the process of doing research and most importantly authoring papers capable of being published in refereed journals. It's like an entry test for becoming a university lecturer/academic. It's both a challenging and a rewarding experience where the relationship between student and superviser is paramount. When you get through your viva/defence examination, the sense of achievement is tremendous. You'll have it for the rest of your life.
Amen, if I learned one thing, it's that to and astronomer everthing that is not H or HE is a metal! But the meaning here of a metal is an element created in the star. (and presumably the whole chains of increasingly larger atoms being formed)
@@TheJhtlag And I also heard recently that some lithium (element 3) was also created in the early Big Bang nucleosynthesis, but I suppose too small to worry about. Wikipedia says "Lithium-7 and lithium-6 produced in the Big Bang are on the order of: lithium-7 to be 10^−9 of all primordial nuclides; and lithium-6 around 10^−13."
I started a PhD 4x : first I had a stipend but then dropped it to take a job (typical working class decision as I later learned). then twice during my work but both times simply the topic was not good enough to keep me up and I lacked the will. Finally then I did the most difficult one, going for a PhD in Britain next to my job as a managing partner and I finished successfully. it helped that the topic was close to my work and kept me interested... never regretted it
There are Ten thousands of PHD on Astrophysics at Least in the world. NDT wasn't famous because he Impacted the science of physics as the medias trying to make us believe. It's simply because of his methods of explaining complicated things with manner that everyone could understand, like his Documentaries
There are not tens of thousands of PhD astrophysicists in the world. The number is less than ten thousand. You're right about Tyson: a mediocre scientist with enough charisma to be a good communicator.
He sure drinks the 2030 reset garbage. Wonder if he knows that the goal is the Gov will be to tell you what job they want you to do.......so he would be a computer salesman if he was born today.
How remarkably ironic that for the very first words of the thesis, Tyson selected the quote "It is important not to worship what is known, but to question it." Now, having gotten his phd, decades later, he is insufferable when anyone questions anything that he talks about, and he (with authority and arrogance) only talks about things that are "known".
Thanks Tibet’s! Unfortunately I also read Tyson’s Ph.D thesis. Having a background in mathematics, I found it to be a simple a distribution analysis for which he should have at least made an attempt to adjust for field background interference. I realize not everything has to be earth shaking, however, given his ego, I expected more. He revels in his celebrity too much.
To my mind, deGrasse Tyson never really recovered from getting KO'd by Buster Douglas. He went off the rails a bit after that. Oh well, we've still got the old videos and his PhD thesis I suppose.
I hear a lot of what I see as undeserved criticism towards NDT that follows a similar pattern from scientifically literate people . Id like to explain my view on where this may come from and why I think the criticism is undeserved. Most of his science communication is aimed at the american general public, a group that tends to know very little about science. NDT is very good at explaining interesting science topics to this audience in a way that communicates how exciting science can be. When someone working in a STEM field or is otherwise pretty scientifically literate sees NDTs content, they may see it as just communicating ideas that are obvious, simple, needing no explanation, etc. because theyve already learned the vast majority of what he is explaining, if not all of it. An average scientifically illiterate american has likely forgotten just about all the chemistry, biology, physics, math, etc. that they've ever learned. Many simply never learned what they should have in school in the first place. So when NDT has a video explaining the properties of water, the lunar cycle, the scale of the solar system etc., many scientifically literate people may see it as being devoid of valuable information because they already know all the building blocks that make up the concepts like avagadros number, newtonian physics, fundamental forces, etc. The value of NDTs content isnt the facts themselves. Anyone can easily google the scale of the solar system, or what the definition of a planet is, or what the properties of water are. This information isnt anything unique. The purpose of NDTs content isnt to teach high-level astrophysics to working scientists and straight A STEM students, its to reach that person that made Cs in all their science courses in high school and thought their teachers were boring. To take what curiosity they have left and reignite it, to show them how interesting science can be. Going to NDT and complaining that he doesnt teach complex enough subjects, his lessons are no-brainers, etc. is like walking into a middle school algebra class at a public school and complaining that what they are doing is too basic and the teacher is overrated bacause theyre just teaching algebra and not vector calculus. The teacher may or may not be great at making new discoveries in or teaching vector calculus, but their goal is to teach algebra to middle schoolers so that criticism is pretty irrelevant. Its also important to remember that being a great academic scientist and being a great science communicator to the public are different skills. Ive had professors that have good academic reputations when publishing literature that are bad at teaching concepts to students, as well as professors that dont seem particularly accomplished academically but are great at teaching to students.
Well said. I have noticed this criticism towards NDT from nameless and faceless people on youtube pretending to be academics. It is probably just jealousy or something worse that I can't mention.
Thank you Benjamin. Finally, out of all these silly "hating" comments, someone actually gets it. NDT's goal In all of this has always been to reach the people that "know that they don't like science". He literally says it in many of his public engagements.
Say what you like but when he said “the science on global warming is finished” he lost me. I like the guy but any scientist willing to say that knowing full well the science is in its rudimentary stages and it’s ability to predict is negligible. He clung to his politics and not science.
If someone has a PhD, they've had had to have laser focus on one field for well over a decade. Meaning, I will usually ignore their opinions on topics outside of their field of expertise. I will intently listen to a PhD talking about their chosen field of study, but will treat their opinions on other fields the same as any other layperson.
"It is important not to worship what is known, but to question it." That is super rich coming from someone who thinks if you question climate change or vaccines that you are anti science.
@@woebringer7884 "alternate data" and "alternate facts".... If they are suppressed, you wouldn't find it at all. But you did. The only reason why the scientific method isn't on your side is because your "alternative data" are wrong
@@linhhoang1725 no need, official CDC data is not on the cultists side either (which is why they stopped collecting it and keep tempering with it). But people are deplatformed for trying to elucidate that. Likewise, there is not true consensus among relevant scientists on "climate change" (more specifically AGW), but it's just not allowed to be openly presented, it's taboo, verbotten. Science is not possible without capital, so whoever provides money, also controls the narrative and the official orthodoxy, aka "the science(TM)". You science-thumpers are only smart in your own echo chamber.
@@karabomothupi9759 speak only for yourself. He is noticeably slower of mind than I. Hence I see his faults and am annoyed by those faults being celebrated as intelligence by as you self describe a lower intelligence person. I would truly knock your teeth out if you said such a thing to my face bro. Speak only on yourself unless you have a data set to work with. Being you have no real data to work with on me at best you can make no assumption. Your largest mistake is the most common. You projected your self your severe limits into others. Where I project holding people to accountability as I assume that they like myself have the capacity to see and change themselves. They like you can not. SMH people like you are evidence that bullying is good and needs to come back
@@karabomothupi9759 A top Scientist is someone that can formulate his own ideas beside well known discoveries and goes beyond that in a captivating manner to students or audiences, Neil does that quite well. This makes Neil a top Scientist also in the end it takes decades and newer understandings, to understand the Universe is not an overnight mystery unwrapping. That’s why they have something called quantum mechanics fields, String theories, inflationary theory, blackholes and dark matter, all of which have not been concretely proven, yet they are all subject of further studies. In short the Universe as a whole still has plenty of mysteries to reveal to us 😆
Hi I found myself accidentally on this site and just had to see why someone would take an interest in the details of NDT's thesis. It is a fine piece of practical research work that adds to the base of understanding of our and other galactic systems. In the end though it is "just another" spectroscopic survey of galactic stars, (something that by no means, I am quick to add, represents a trivial level of observational labour.) As reader Springer notes below, physics students that don't quite reach the sophistication to do particle, nuclear or condensed matter work often get offered astronomy as way to make their contribution as scientists. So while there are and have been very powerful minds ( Eddington come to mind, for one) who undertake "astrophysics" out of shear love of the literally cosmic scale problems, fresh interpretations of the "physics in the sky" most often must come from the fundamental physics side alluded to. NDT in particular seems to me a chap who has done PhD level slugging to earn his rank, but has found his best calling after all as a popularizer. Not many doctorates find themselves to be scientific ground breakers, and find satisfaction in other creative ways. best regards, D. Barillari
@@qed100 Particle Physics is not that complicated it’s just the fundamental building blocks of all matter in the Universe at nano scale , basically you’re breaking down an object that already existed in order to try and explain its origins.
I was hanging out for an hour one afternoon with the director of my research lab when he took a call from someone inquiring about taking a Ph.D there. Of course, I only heard one side of the conversation, and I don't recall most of that. But what's stuck with me, to this day, is the observation that "A Ph.D is an exercise in depth, not breadth." This is an important and sobering observation. We'd all love to be at the point of synthesis, right? When everything comes together and all the fragments of (OMG, perhaps interdisciplinary!) knowledge finally make harmonious sense when seen as a whole. But that's not what a Ph.D is for. It's for showing that you have the perseverance to dig deeply into a subject and find a small nugget of pure truth, or anyway as pure and enduring as we know how to refine it. It's not a place for grand epiphanies. Such epiphanies do take place, but seldom according to plan, and rarely when working toward a graduate degree. It's not that the sand has already been sifted by generations before you. There is, in fact, still much unknown terrain. But we simply don't have enough experience to engage in synthesis of any significance at the beginning of our careers. At least, the rare few who manage to do this seem to more or less step into the moment, in the same way that Newton and Leibniz arrived at the idea of calculus at nearly the same moment. The ideas were already being developed all around them. They just happened to be the first to see it. I didn't particularly like hearing that graduate work is an exercise in depth, not breadth. But that is, evidently, the way the system works best. And because NDT likewise made his contribution, in his turn, in that spirit, it may not rock your socks off. In fact, it may only make sense to his thesis committee and a handful of others. That's depth for you. But what an excellent preparation it was, nevertheless, for someone who chose to make science more available to the public! You rarely earn tenure this way, but its importance can't be overstated.
No, I don’t think it’s simply about politics or agreement. The problem is he has abandoned strict rationalist materialism by pontification on social matters so he can retain cultural relevance/status. Makes his scientific insights suspect now. If he can be captured, how can he be trusted?
Sorry but I'm calling nonsense on the Observatory elevation at 7200 feet having oxygen levels so low that you would be out of breath just walking around.The Mauna Loa Observatory at 11,200 would be more representative of that description. Ego driven Neil deGrasse Tyson's career path evidently did turn out to be that of a salesperson.
I concur with your comment on the elevation. As for Neil, yes he has a big ego and yes he's a salesman (after all everyone is selling something) and judging from his fame and income, he's a good one. If your ego can get by his, you can learn a lot and not just about astrophysics.
Wow 360 pages... whew!! Thanks Toby for giving a glimpse of Neil's work. I didn't understood much of it. I appreciate the philosophy of not worshipping, but understanding the work of creators. Respect for engineers who build the telescope in Chile to give us sneak peak into the galaxy.
Compliments on a well constructed Sarcasm! Trust an Irishman to excel in derision of commentary. You've the tongue as sharp as Freagarthach, “The Answerer” !!! Bhuel a dúirt, a Thiarna O'Hare! 😎
Since it’s perfectly possible to fantasize that I might read such a document under an extreme of duress I can’t imagine at the moment….thank you so much!
Too many people seem to be falling into the trap of not understand what a science communicator does. He may not have discovered anything but as he stated in the interview shown "you may go your whole career and never discover anything. That's just the process of science. You're buying in to the journey, not the destination." I paraphrase. Through NDT I have met Carl Sagan, James Burke, Brian Cox, Pythagroras, Kepler, Isaac Asimov, Newton, Stephen Hawking and many other brilliant people! They have really opened my mind and made me a better person. We need more enlightened educators now more than ever! Just look at the state of the USA. Too many ppl believing in conspiracies and not critical thinking! My two cents. I'm just a war vet. Thank you Tibees for all of your videos!
It really shocks and saddens me when I see the scientifically-ignorant statements made by many Americans on social media nowadays. It seems such a far cry from the country many of us outsiders admired in the 1960s and 1970s, and on 20 July 1969 in particular.
@CNV Life (in all manners) is an ongoing PROCESS; your statement simply shows Your personal (rather negative) evaluation of vk2ig's statement. One of the common attributes of we Humans is the tendency to CRITICIZE knowing that this behavior shall more often than not find those who(m) agree with the criticism assuming anyone must be knowledgeable simply because they criticize. Thus, the question arises; are you this sort of personality? HMMMMMMMMM??? 😎
Often the PHD is simply a get out of jail card / You may pass GO kind of achievement.... Ah, THE PAPER CHASE.... the recurring fact is those who can, DO... those who can't, TEACH..... as noted above there are Literally tens of thousands of PHDs running around the Scientific communities throughout the World, yet few of them (VERY FEW) do the cutting edge work... Tyson should be awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Media Technocrat Blah Blah( M.T.B.B.)
@@seetheanimal5867 What a ridiculous comment; NDT is clearly an intelligent man. Slogging through years of college level physics (not to mention graduate level studies) is not something an average Joe can do. I am also not sure why you are responding to a statement that you clearly do not understand since it has nothing to do with your comment.
@@seetheanimal5867 it's okay buddy, life can get better, people can care about you and listen to you without having to write things like this, just because you are a person you are worthy of respect and understanding
I think you indeed put in lot of hard work to understand his thesis and then explain it in more simpler layman's language. I didn't understand everything but enough to appreciate what Tyson actually did. Thank you very much
normally astrophysicist never explain things in a way that a person with an average to slightly above average IQ would be able to understand the complexity of what they're saying. but Neil deGrasse Tyson is wonderful about that!
The way it was explained to me is that the point of your masters is to learn how to properly ask a question and the PHD is to learn how to properly answer a question. The undergraduate is where you gain the knowledge to be able to do the previous two things.
How the technology has changed. When Dr deGrasse Tyson took stellar spectra the spectrograph could measure only one star. NIRSpec onboard JWST can measure 100 targets simultaneously and in front of the sensors there is a grate with tiny doors (250000 of these) that can block / unblock the light
Crazy how different the "Top Comments" are, from a year ago, to "Newest First" comments, today, that show how poorly NDT's public perception is. He's the worst.
I've had a passion to learn history my whole life, absolutely dreaded math and tried to understand science. Listening to your soft voice explain complex topics is a great way to wind down and still learn. Thank you
Thank you Toby. That was very well explained and easy to listen to. Clear, concise and nicely paced. It makes a change from many creators who seem intent on ramming as much information down your throat in as short a time as possible. Subbed.
I was quite surprised that he did not thank Carl Sagan in his thesis for being an early mentor as Neil recounted in his newer version of Cosmos. Either way, I have much gratitude to them both.
@@mcdirty311 Those are just rumors. I do not like to claim that people like to claim those things. Only if they do claim those things without any base for it I make those claims. I rather prefer not to be in a position where I feel I have to make those claims.
I'd never really looked that closely at his published work before, but I've always heard that for someone of his renown, he has a relatively small number of publications. It was interesting to see, though, that his co-author on his first paper was a collaborator I worked with frequently throughout the years. While one astronomer of his acknowledgments in his dissertation was another frequent collaborator. I wonder if they have any stories about him, but I haven't really spoken to either of them in some time.
for a full 30 seconds, when Tyson, had the time to go write a PhD thesis on Astrophysics. Then I remembered that Mike and Neil are two very different people.
Yes, he is a treat spokesmen for the prevailing narrative. Science moves on, nothing is impervious to being knocked down by the truth discover process; except that is establishment science that has been corrupted by academic capture, cronie review process, etc. There is legitamate angst that is cast to the establishment and "concensus" and its gate keepers.
@@25lighters91 the reasons listed here are more than enough to not go down the race card. Simply put, he is a celebrity scientist. He wouldnt be there if he was willing to rock the boat. Take Thomas Sowell for instance. He is black. He is probably the greatest American intellect and nobody knows him. Real deep dives into physics, questioning the standard theory, leads us to free energy. They want us on the plantation.
Thank you, I am also an Astrophysicist without a PhD and I agree with you. Hence maybe writing some better software to model and track objects might be a better idea. Maybe work on geometry or particle physics. Maybe E&M and its relationship with the quasars and filaments.
Re Tyson: I am the best at telling you I'm the best. vs Feynman: I am the best at telling you how to think. LOL just kidding though Tyson does seem to be a seeker of the 'look at me', 'look at me' centre of attention sort of PhDude.
Thanks for the explanation. Was his thesis "great and original", as in the Copernicus' system where the Sun is at the center, with the planets circling it, and the stars are well above the planets? What would be original today? Explaining how to travel through time-space without fuel propellants? Studying an interstellar alien civilization? On a more practical level, his thesis may be good and on par with probably many good and acceptable theses, but he also brought the subject to millions in the general public, which is probably his most significant achievement.
@@Number6_ I would have been more impressed with a thesis on powering space vehicles by reversible electro-magnetism. The answer is probably sitting right in front of us, to be discovered by some high school student as a science project (and that's not necessarily public schools. It may be a home schooler.)
Excellent explanation. For those in the public that do not know, not all thesis are required to be defended when Peers Review it. It depends upon what Doctorate is being sought. When a Peer Review Committees at Universities actually ask questions to seek more information at a formal meeting, they expect defense of concepts with thorough explanations and the candidate better be ready. The committee must be satisfied with those responses because they take no prisoners during the review. 🙀
I really enjoy how soft your voice is! the science is billiant and its super easy listening (even though the material is very complex). Thank you Tibees! I will be coming back :)
*Neil DeGrasse Tyson has lost his mind. He is a diversity comedian who argues how aliens are not real but believes that gender is a fluid made up of 23478 pronouns.*
This is so cool. NDT is one of my favorite physicists and one of my personal physicists (joke on how he always says "im NDT and your personal physicist"). eccentric for sure but also talented, focused and open minded.
He's a great science educator, super famous, but when he was a physicist he was average tbh. I have a PhD in physics, may I suggest you some of my favorite actual physicists? Our field has amazing people that the public will never hear of
@@gcg8187 im pretty sure he was a better physicist than you will ever be, and nobody wants to hear about your "suggestions" just because you think you have a "Ph.D."
I never had the opportunity for much education. Videos like your are so important to me and are a great source of learning and pleasure. Thank so much.
He's great and very knowledgeable...... But he seems very narrow minded in his old age? He seems very objective to any views or theories that don't align with his? He gets very abrupt about something that nobody ACTUALLY knows the exact reason for why stuff happens in space? To me that's really put a dampner on his greatness?
Very well put forth! It is true Neil deGrasse Tyson is an excellent communicator. I don't even have a college degree but I've always been curious about the universe and all the workings thereof. When I listen to him I can fathom it, I can imagine it and some of it actually makes sense to me. Thank you so much for sharing!
The new problem in Astro physics is time curvature has change distance and age of our galaxy old models are becoming problematic in definition of design and understanding. Because we have more information verifying mass in substantial quantities where previously thought none, calculation of our modern models is out the window and perhaps some PHD thesis‘s aswell. Hint hint.
I love this video! My understanding of any of any of this pale in comparison to you. And obviously Niel's. But I love learning from you guys/gals. You are the unsung heroes of our generation. Keep up the good work and keep the science coming!
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Tibees,, I was really under the impression that you could not really read?,, somebody's space kit cadet thesis,, following around expanded english/not real communication in English but only is a deception,, meant to be/ nobody understands,?/meant to be that way/ kind of like string theory following all the strings around a big tangled ball of string lol! 🤗
Want one video about Michio Kaku's PhD thesis next time..
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@@nilanjanchanda597 LOL here's his thesis translated! I'm Michael cuckoo,, all tangled up in a ball of tangled up string,,/it's kind of like? being all tangled up in a black widow spiders web,, ready to eat you cuz you can't get away not funny,,,,,,,,,😇
Maybe Someday I Will Have The Opportunity To Formally Publish And Release My Theses Publicly..
One of the first things I was told when doing a PhD was "you're not expected to change the world". A small contribution is a catalyst to greater knowledge over time.
Im thinking..youre young, energetic and immersed in a subject..if youre going do anything it better be now. I guess your PHd is like getting a finger tip grasp onto the top floor of a members only club. It proves you may have some novel thoughts someday, given the chance, and youre commited.
I'm doing my PhD in chemistry.. so my small contribution is a catalyst
@@JoshSci good luck fam
@@JoshSci now you are become Clark super man or spider🕷 man or 🦇man 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm doing a PhD (but in Philosophy) and my biggest problem is that I try to cram in too much. My supervisors often warn me about what you just said.
Neil wakes up his whole family to tell them he's going to bed
😆😆
Go back to sleep 😴
LOL!!!
hahahahaha
Hahahaha. Fantastic comment, and proper description.
After reading the comments I see a very obvious problem with perception of scientists by general public:
They expect literally every thesis and paper to be some "huge discovery" or "huge contribution" all by itself and every single scientist to have made some great discoveries...
In reality almost noone's thesis is something truly special. Mostly it is just a summary of very routine simple work. I "love" how all people who are far from academia like to imagine that science is still done by lone geniuses, and that every step is some "revolutionary discovery". And if you fail to live up to that ridiculous standards, a lot of people will claim "you are not a real scientist". In reality it is all about having huge lab, with many trained people, expensive equipment and good financing. And almost all work is slow process of incrementally accumulating new facts bit by bit
Kate S You summed up the problem quite well. People who criticise fields of study generally have little to no knowledge of those fields. They usually have unrealistic expectations and, in some, an agenda that goes against established scientific results. Tyson comes under regular attack because he's so public and will say what he thinks. He's an excellent communicator while never claiming to be an "Einstein" or "Galileo", rather just someone who's passionate about learning and science.
The irony is, if there is a "glamorous" field of science that is making incredible discoveries every day, it's astronomy. e.g. When I was born, we had no idea whether it was normal for stars to have planetary systems like our own, the existence of black holes was disputed, we didn't know whether the expansion was slowing down or speeding up etc etc. Now we've catalogued thousands of planets (and can infer that the great majority of stars have planetary systems), have photographed black holes, and measured the accelerating expansion. And even stuff that was recently thought impossible, like recording gravitational waves has been done.
It's an amazing body of work, and the fact that it's a massive collaborative effort makes it all the more impressive IMO.
Actually you sound like someone very naive when it comes to academia. Every phd thesis must have something new and relevant for the cientific world. Most PhDs do their researches almost 100% by their own.
Obviously, people thinking that every PhD thesis must discover something like Theory of Relativity, Quantum Mechanics etc, are also very naive. But you are wrong for being on the other extreme.
Nail on the head here. Just wanted to ad with the current dilemma with populism. It's unfortunate that some people's distrust to authority or otherwise bleeds into science. While such distrust can be useful in some situations, it is unnecessary doing real research. The only distrust you seemingly need in that regard should be against your own bias.
Precisely. Phd thesis may as well be just a document that will at some point contribute to some sensantional metaanalysis. Its just as important.
Neil was my Astronomy TA at the University of Texas and also a friend. He always has demonstrated an ability to take complex situations and make them understandable to anyone.
What was his gpa
@@Karuska22ps have no idea, he taught my class sometimes and his tutoring was exceptional. I was also on the wrestling team with him.
That is definitely his greatest gift to the world because he's making space more accessible to the everyman and I love it!
This is the only thing that matters. When my circuits class professor had hard to understand lectures, the TA in the course was incredible and I wouldn't have learned much in the course if not for him. A good TA can be MUCH more valuable to a student's career, inspiration, everything, than a professor.
He's a charlatan, or entertainer at best.
Just like Neil deGrasse Tyson, you have an adept way of communicating your synopsis of his 370 page thesis to people such as myself, who failed miserably at their academic studies, but still enjoy learning from those who excelled to PhD level. Your voice is so gentle & pleasant to listen to which helps when trying to comprehend this complex subject.
100%. I really hope Tibees also flourishes in this field of science communication and education. I don't like Neil cuz he has a very cocky demeanor that makes him come off as arrogant. Trying to listen to him speak makes me angry.
@@the_real_cookiez I feel like this says more about you than him. But to each their own
@@vallano8970Mmmm no, it's a warranted claim that merits substantiation
a 370 page thesis HAS TO BE complete b.s. if you cannot convey your thesis in under 80 pages, you are full of b.s.
@@jjs8426 LMAO, there wasn't even any "claim" made and the big words aren't making you smart, at all
This goes to show that science is a cooperative effort. 99+ % of professional scientists never make a name for themselves and are never mentioned in the history books. Fame is really hit or miss, but every one who becomes well known owes a great debt to all those who do the work. Neil found his niche as a communicator, and you also have a talent for that.
@@RobertMJohnson but he is a Scientist , he has PHD. he obv could go into research...
@R Johnson He has a PhD in astrophysics from Columbia Univ and he has published several papers on the subject, but he's not a scientist?
They make names for themselves. Just within the niche they work in. They are rock stars in their discipline. Ever heard of a wrestler(+real wrestling not soap opera wrestling) named Sudalaev? No. He is a legend, and an icon of 100's of million people. You are only an adherent of popular media and therefore limited in your scope of knowledge, success, and recognition. If it isn't on your favorite news medium then it doesn't count.
@@scottg6754 Are you trying to make a salient point? We all know that fame and fortune, in any particular endeavor, is arbitrary, like winning the lottery.
It fascinating science without the original Sciencetist.
Everything about this journey, getting a copy of the thesis, understanding the thesis and then making a video so others can follow is remarkable.
Young Ms you are brilliant.
Thank you for a wonderful lesson.
I can get a copy of his thesis online ,,, I can also whisper in a bedtime story voice ,,, I just don’t see the point, prop up the sheep and they will fail you
So getting a copy of the internet and recording a video now is an achievement ??
Brilliant like really ?
Stop simping that’s pathetic
@@f87115 You really don’t realize the work that’s been put in to make the video and the reason why? How are you this dense, among all the other commenters here?
@@f87115but you won't do it. I suppose that's why set she's doing isn't so pointless.
@@f87115 and yet you're doing nothing but dumping useless words in a youtube comment section. Just get out of here, your existence isn't needed anyway
While we justly celebrate the handful of geniuses who make profound breakthroughs in science and change the game, the meat and potatoes of science are the thousands of dedicated people who do the kind of work that Tyson did for his PhD. Without an abundance of such work, the supergeniuses would have nothing to make breakthroughs with. Most scientists know that they will labour in relative anonymity, their work known to only a handful of colleagues in their field. They do their work out of love for it, not just to become bigshots.
However, Tyson did become a sort of bigshot in a particular specialty: science communication and popularization. It's a crucial job, since without it, we would not get any scientists at all. Someone has to inspire that kid with a backyard telescope to pursue their dream of becoming an astronomer, or that other kid with a butterfly collection to become a biologist. Few people have the necessary skill for this, and we should respect that skill. Really good ones don't show up very often. Isaac Asimov's thesis was so lame an item that it garnered a grand total of two citations, and his career as a researcher was nothing remarkable --- yet when he died, there were headline obituaries in every major newspaper in the world, with good reason.
Also a shout out to all the technicians and undergrads that support the aspiring doctors with their PhDs, even when the result is unlikely to be groundbreaking. Science is a collaborative effort that allows exceptionally brilliant minds to shine bright.
Disagree.
"science communication and popularization. It's a crucial job, since without it, we would not get any scientists at all. "
If that were true, where did the first scientists come from, decades or centuries before "science communication and popularization" became a thing?
I think your hypothesis is not grounded in reality.
Brilliant comment .
@@Em0killer13 ok? Lmao
”So I became an expert i galaxies” 5 seconds in and the stakes are high..
Seems like a solid piece of work to me, thanks Tibees, for elaborating .:. I remember that time with my own thesis, an average thesis at best, but the hardest time ever in my life. Everything after seemed easy and, like Neil, I decided to pursue something very different. Somehow he learned to give the journalists the kind of language and story telling they wanted and he became the first person they would call whenever something spacey happened.
Iirc, he mentioned that there was a major discovery or a comet nearing earth the day he was filling in for more prominent astronomers. Major new networks called his place of work for comment and explanation and he was the only one available.
Did they ask him about Kevin?
Fundamental to science communication is knowing the science so you can communicate it. Tyson obviously did some quality science. Just successfully competing for observation time at a world-class observatory puts you in an elite class of astronomers and astrophysicists. He built a solid foundation for his future success as a science communicator where he has excelled.
The question is is the Milky Way galaxy fake
@@serronserron1320 The real question is .. is math related to science?
He has shown himself to be an intellectual imbecile … he is in fact a glorified entertainer a planetarium host … much like bill nye. He was also speaking allot of low IQ dribble about Corona … being a parrot of the gov and using the word “science “ in a way as to be heretical to science in route .
You need to work on your assessment abilities sheeeesh
@@serronserron1320 the question is how many think that guy is anything but a bad joke
@@seetheanimal5867 far less of a joke than any of us commenting.
Merci Tibee for bringing all these remarkable works and explaining it.
I'm about to start a Bachelor's Degree program in Metallurgical Engineering off the back of a Trade School degree in Welding and Fabrication Technology.
I was the worst student ever when I was younger, spent 10 years working low skill jobs until I saved up enough to go back to school.
I have tons of respect for people who can excel in their fields of science, I can't seem to learn without getting my hands on things.
How did it go?
@@Matt-jc2ml not great, I need to do a ton of remedial math before I try again.
Thank you for this information. I am an amateur astronomer that is wanting to get into professional, scientific research. I have spent months trying to learn about many of these things and seeing Neil discuss his specific research is exactly the details I’ve been looking for. Someone who is reporting exact observations with tools I understand how to use. I can’t wait to comb through his entire thesis to start coming up with observations of my own to start working on. I can’t wait to go back to school to start putting my work into practice!
so look up recent physics and astrophysics dissertations
@@tonyvelasquez6776 yeah that’s exactly what I’m gonna do!
I want to get into astronomy too but I don't know where to start
@@alnatsya I’m now qualified to answer this question! If I were just starting out, I would begin by looking into B-V calculations using photometry. You can use research telescopes services like Slooh that give you access to telescopes for an affordable monthly price. This is a great place to start for all amateurs because it costs almost nothing. If you’d like to take pictures you should start with whatever camera you already own (including your smart phone!)
Love this! Brief, calmly presented, and the projector really took me back..
Neils work in science communication is stellar, it is interesting to see what he did do in academia but I don't think it's the main focus of his career.
Neil may be entertaining but he often gets it wrong. This makes him a poor science communicator.
@@HopDavid He makes people interested in science.
@@HopDavid example?
Perhaps more entertainer than science communicator. He jumps to false conclusions a lot. Most of his errors could've been avoided if he didn't have such a neurotic need to sound smart
@@Jacob-Simonsen It’s easier to make your material interesting when you’re not constrained by a need for rigor and accuracy.
Tyson is not famous for being a good physicist. I mean, I'm sure he's pretty good. Good enough that he got a PhD, while I dropped the major as an undergrad. And he was good enough to get the positions that lead to his rise in the field where he actually shines, science communication.
But he'll tell anyone who mentions his wife that she's the better scientist in their marriage by far and anyone who knows them both seems to agree.
At Cornell the phsysics dept. "encourages" the less than stellar students to move into astrophysics and astrophysics encourages the not so capable to try Planetary Sciences - Sagan's wing. And Sagan had the best weed on campus. That said, IIRC Tyson met Sagan when he was pretty young and became a protege and was not pushed down the chain like many others. The downside for working with Sagan was his terrible academic reputation for jumping peer-review and going public to the popular press with research and leaving other researches high and dry. It is how he was fired (refused tenure) at Harvard and would up in Drake Equation land. His education is very impressive and the people he learned from and worked with were top shelf. He was really quite brilliant. But he rubbed many of his peers the wrong way. They generally do not approve of publicly making lots of guesses about unknowns then when one of them is true, claiming "I was right and the first one to see this". And this was a theme in his work with NASA on planetary science. Issac Azimov had one of those unmeasurable IQ's and was a figure in the Mensa organization. He said Sagan was obviously smarter than himself.
@@charlesspringer4709 I lost you at the end there
@@charlesspringer4709 How is this relevant?
@@charlesspringer4709 You're from Cornell? Do you know Don Barry?
@@HappytreeLuis How is your question relevant? (Asking for a friend.)
When I was in high school I started watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos and got hooked. The thing I love about science is we build on our knowledge over time on what others have learned before us. I think for this very reason this is what makes us shine.
Jesus made it all
@@citrus4419 shut it you’re delusional
@@citrus4419 imagine, you're literally on a page dedicated to science literacy and further understanding.. and that is the extent of your contribution. Sad.
@@citrus4419 he clearly didnt make you. if he did, you'd be smarter and more successful.
@@citrus4419 It was Zues.
I wouldn’t waste my time, the guy is a charlatan.
As someone who has a PhD (in economics), who then spent a number of years in academia before moving into consulting, a PhD is like a preparation for a career in academia, where you learn about the process of doing research and most importantly authoring papers capable of being published in refereed journals. It's like an entry test for becoming a university lecturer/academic. It's both a challenging and a rewarding experience where the relationship between student and superviser is paramount. When you get through your viva/defence examination, the sense of achievement is tremendous. You'll have it for the rest of your life.
The man is a shill you fool. He's never DONE anything.
@@soulcells But he has a PhD that makes him a great scientist right?
@@gcg8187 The BEST scientist! Except for Fauci or course.
@@soulcells I’m surprised no one mentioning it
He’s just popular
Good for him he knows how to talk and sell he’s good as a sale man that’s it
@@soulcells are you mentally ill?
Great to see you still putting out content, Tibees. You continue to be an inspiration.
Kudos to you for your deep dive in Tyson's research and communicating to the world in under 15 minutes!
Amen, if I learned one thing, it's that to and astronomer everthing that is not H or HE is a metal! But the meaning here of a metal is an element created in the star. (and presumably the whole chains of increasingly larger atoms being formed)
@@TheJhtlag And I also heard recently that some lithium (element 3) was also created in the early Big Bang nucleosynthesis, but I suppose too small to worry about.
Wikipedia says "Lithium-7 and lithium-6 produced in the Big Bang are on the order of: lithium-7 to be 10^−9 of all primordial nuclides; and lithium-6 around 10^−13."
I could do without the ASMR vibe. She sounds like she is trying to whisper so her parents will not discover she is making videos in her room.
Forget about it fast.
This video is SO GOOD! Thank you Tibees for quick walk-through of NDT's PhD thesis -- and interesting enough, his academic career!
I started a PhD 4x : first I had a stipend but then dropped it to take a job (typical working class decision as I later learned). then twice during my work but both times simply the topic was not good enough to keep me up and I lacked the will.
Finally then I did the most difficult one, going for a PhD in Britain next to my job as a managing partner and I finished successfully. it helped that the topic was close to my work and kept me interested... never regretted it
He's an expert at sounding like he knows what he's talking about.
Because he does lmao
There are Ten thousands of PHD on Astrophysics at Least in the world.
NDT wasn't famous because he Impacted the science of physics as the medias trying to make us believe.
It's simply because of his methods of explaining complicated things with manner that everyone could understand, like his Documentaries
He's a Carl Sagan copy cat.
@@europaeuropa3673 he was his University's teacher at some point
There are not tens of thousands of PhD astrophysicists in the world. The number is less than ten thousand.
You're right about Tyson: a mediocre scientist with enough charisma to be a good communicator.
He sure drinks the 2030 reset garbage. Wonder if he knows that the goal is the Gov will be to tell you what job they want you to do.......so he would be a computer salesman if he was born today.
NDT said there are about 7000 astrophysicists worldwide. So those who have PHDs should be less
I could listen to you for hours... and, I actually do! Keep up the great work explaining these complex ideas such that I can understand!!
Came here to say the same thing.
Agreed. Tibee is the Goddess of physics. Her voice is golden honey, anything to get me to pay more time studying the sciences. Thank you Tibee!
Practically ASMR.
Simp
somewhere along the line, he left the facts of science for the faith of politics.
How remarkably ironic that for the very first words of the thesis, Tyson selected the quote "It is important not to worship what is known, but to question it." Now, having gotten his phd, decades later, he is insufferable when anyone questions anything that he talks about, and he (with authority and arrogance) only talks about things that are "known".
Thanks Tibet’s! Unfortunately I also read Tyson’s Ph.D thesis. Having a background in mathematics, I found it to be a simple a distribution analysis for which he should have at least made an attempt to adjust for field background interference. I realize not everything has to be earth shaking, however, given his ego, I expected more. He revels in his celebrity too much.
To my mind, deGrasse Tyson never really recovered from getting KO'd by Buster Douglas. He went off the rails a bit after that. Oh well, we've still got the old videos and his PhD thesis I suppose.
Lmao
😂 you must be thinking of his brother Mike.
I just envisioned deGrasse Tyson with Mike's face tat 🤣
I hear a lot of what I see as undeserved criticism towards NDT that follows a similar pattern from scientifically literate people . Id like to explain my view on where this may come from and why I think the criticism is undeserved.
Most of his science communication is aimed at the american general public, a group that tends to know very little about science. NDT is very good at explaining interesting science topics to this audience in a way that communicates how exciting science can be. When someone working in a STEM field or is otherwise pretty scientifically literate sees NDTs content, they may see it as just communicating ideas that are obvious, simple, needing no explanation, etc. because theyve already learned the vast majority of what he is explaining, if not all of it.
An average scientifically illiterate american has likely forgotten just about all the chemistry, biology, physics, math, etc. that they've ever learned. Many simply never learned what they should have in school in the first place. So when NDT has a video explaining the properties of water, the lunar cycle, the scale of the solar system etc., many scientifically literate people may see it as being devoid of valuable information because they already know all the building blocks that make up the concepts like avagadros number, newtonian physics, fundamental forces, etc.
The value of NDTs content isnt the facts themselves. Anyone can easily google the scale of the solar system, or what the definition of a planet is, or what the properties of water are. This information isnt anything unique. The purpose of NDTs content isnt to teach high-level astrophysics to working scientists and straight A STEM students, its to reach that person that made Cs in all their science courses in high school and thought their teachers were boring. To take what curiosity they have left and reignite it, to show them how interesting science can be.
Going to NDT and complaining that he doesnt teach complex enough subjects, his lessons are no-brainers, etc. is like walking into a middle school algebra class at a public school and complaining that what they are doing is too basic and the teacher is overrated bacause theyre just teaching algebra and not vector calculus. The teacher may or may not be great at making new discoveries in or teaching vector calculus, but their goal is to teach algebra to middle schoolers so that criticism is pretty irrelevant.
Its also important to remember that being a great academic scientist and being a great science communicator to the public are different skills. Ive had professors that have good academic reputations when publishing literature that are bad at teaching concepts to students, as well as professors that dont seem particularly accomplished academically but are great at teaching to students.
Lots of critics out there.
An activity that requires little to no skills at all.
Well said. I have noticed this criticism towards NDT from nameless and faceless people on youtube pretending to be academics. It is probably just jealousy or something worse that I can't mention.
Abszolút egyetértek veled, szerintem is keverik a szezont a fazonnal (illetve elég sznob hozzaallas a tudkom lenézése).
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Thank you Benjamin. Finally, out of all these silly "hating" comments, someone actually gets it. NDT's goal In all of this has always been to reach the people that "know that they don't like science". He literally says it in many of his public engagements.
Say what you like but when he said “the science on global warming is finished” he lost me. I like the guy but any scientist willing to say that knowing full well the science is in its rudimentary stages and it’s ability to predict is negligible. He clung to his politics and not science.
NAILED! (again 😎)
If someone has a PhD, they've had had to have laser focus on one field for well over a decade. Meaning, I will usually ignore their opinions on topics outside of their field of expertise. I will intently listen to a PhD talking about their chosen field of study, but will treat their opinions on other fields the same as any other layperson.
@@Fermion. you know, that is a very good point and something I will consider from now on. Thanks.
From the first line of his intro, I'm glad Dr. Tyson was not totally discouraged from academia. Skilled communication of science is underrated.
"It is important not to worship what is known, but to question it."
That is super rich coming from someone who thinks if you question climate change or vaccines that you are anti science.
The data is on his side and not yours
@@kentonian Is it though.
@@kentonian
Try looking at the alternate data. Then ask yourself why that data is being suppressed.
@@woebringer7884 "alternate data" and "alternate facts".... If they are suppressed, you wouldn't find it at all. But you did. The only reason why the scientific method isn't on your side is because your "alternative data" are wrong
@@linhhoang1725 no need, official CDC data is not on the cultists side either (which is why they stopped collecting it and keep tempering with it). But people are deplatformed for trying to elucidate that. Likewise, there is not true consensus among relevant scientists on "climate change" (more specifically AGW), but it's just not allowed to be openly presented, it's taboo, verbotten. Science is not possible without capital, so whoever provides money, also controls the narrative and the official orthodoxy, aka "the science(TM)". You science-thumpers are only smart in your own echo chamber.
This review will give a lot of graduate students hope that they can also produce a Ph.D. thesis paper.
If someone who is so intellectually average can do it it is both motivating to the masses but scary for the future of humanity
@@seetheanimal5867 Average compared to the top scientists. He is far superior intellectually compared to you and I.
@@karabomothupi9759 speak only for yourself. He is noticeably slower of mind than I. Hence I see his faults and am annoyed by those faults being celebrated as intelligence by as you self describe a lower intelligence person.
I would truly knock your teeth out if you said such a thing to my face bro. Speak only on yourself unless you have a data set to work with. Being you have no real data to work with on me at best you can make no assumption.
Your largest mistake is the most common. You projected your self your severe limits into others. Where I project holding people to accountability as I assume that they like myself have the capacity to see and change themselves. They like you can not.
SMH people like you are evidence that bullying is good and needs to come back
@@karabomothupi9759 A top Scientist is someone that can formulate his own ideas beside well known discoveries and goes beyond that in a captivating manner to students or audiences, Neil does that quite well. This makes Neil a top Scientist also in the end it takes decades and newer understandings, to understand the Universe is not an overnight mystery unwrapping. That’s why they have something called quantum mechanics fields, String theories, inflationary theory, blackholes and dark matter, all of which have not been concretely proven, yet they are all subject of further studies. In short the Universe as a whole still has plenty of mysteries to reveal to us 😆
@@karabomothupi9759 most people fail to realize or refuse to acknowledge this, it's like everyone here is a cream of the crop academic, haha!
Hi
I found myself accidentally on this site and just had to see why someone would take an interest in the details of NDT's thesis. It is a fine piece of practical research work that adds to the base of understanding of our and other galactic systems. In the end though it is "just another" spectroscopic survey of galactic stars, (something that by no means, I am quick to add, represents a trivial level of observational labour.) As reader Springer notes below, physics students that don't quite reach the sophistication to do particle, nuclear or condensed matter work often get offered astronomy as way to make their contribution as scientists. So while there are and have been very powerful minds ( Eddington come to mind, for one) who undertake "astrophysics" out of shear love of the literally cosmic scale problems, fresh interpretations of the "physics in the sky" most often must come from the fundamental physics side alluded to. NDT in particular seems to me a chap who has done PhD level slugging to earn his rank, but has found his best calling after all as a popularizer. Not many doctorates find themselves to be scientific ground breakers, and find satisfaction in other creative ways.
best regards,
D. Barillari
Alot of these nameless and faceless haters coming here to criticise NDT and we aren't even sure whether they themselves have Phd in particle physics.
Yeah no. Take your backhanded bullcrap and sod off.
It's not sophistication.
@@qed100 Particle Physics is not that complicated it’s just the fundamental building blocks of all matter in the Universe at nano scale , basically you’re breaking down an object that already existed in order to try and explain its origins.
My dear Anne; You NAILED IT!
Keep up the good CRITIQUING!!! 😎
Thanks @Tibees it's so great to see such a carefully thought-out and worded video.
I was hanging out for an hour one afternoon with the director of my research lab when he took a call from someone inquiring about taking a Ph.D there.
Of course, I only heard one side of the conversation, and I don't recall most of that. But what's stuck with me, to this day, is the observation that "A Ph.D is an exercise in depth, not breadth."
This is an important and sobering observation. We'd all love to be at the point of synthesis, right? When everything comes together and all the fragments of (OMG, perhaps interdisciplinary!) knowledge finally make harmonious sense when seen as a whole. But that's not what a Ph.D is for. It's for showing that you have the perseverance to dig deeply into a subject and find a small nugget of pure truth, or anyway as pure and enduring as we know how to refine it. It's not a place for grand epiphanies.
Such epiphanies do take place, but seldom according to plan, and rarely when working toward a graduate degree. It's not that the sand has already been sifted by generations before you. There is, in fact, still much unknown terrain. But we simply don't have enough experience to engage in synthesis of any significance at the beginning of our careers. At least, the rare few who manage to do this seem to more or less step into the moment, in the same way that Newton and Leibniz arrived at the idea of calculus at nearly the same moment. The ideas were already being developed all around them. They just happened to be the first to see it.
I didn't particularly like hearing that graduate work is an exercise in depth, not breadth. But that is, evidently, the way the system works best. And because NDT likewise made his contribution, in his turn, in that spirit, it may not rock your socks off.
In fact, it may only make sense to his thesis committee and a handful of others. That's depth for you. But what an excellent preparation it was, nevertheless, for someone who chose to make science more available to the public! You rarely earn tenure this way, but its importance can't be overstated.
He is more of a political hack these days, such a shame.
You mean you disagree with him.
No, I don’t think it’s simply about politics or agreement. The problem is he has abandoned strict rationalist materialism by pontification on social matters so he can retain cultural relevance/status.
Makes his scientific insights suspect now. If he can be captured, how can he be trusted?
The in-thumbnail title got me
Love these retrospectives :)
PS 2000 citations of a thesis sounds pretty sensational to me!
She said 2000 citations across his 13 papers. That still sounds high, though!
@@morganmitchell4017 Ah, sorry! Even so, most people would be thrilled!!
@@dylanparker130 a million idiots squawking doesnt make them any less idiots
@@morganmitchell4017 2,000 citations for 13 papers is crazy high. I don't understand why Tibees thinks it is nothing.
@@tkk3852 Yup. That's 150 citations per paper. If I got 150 citations on even one of my papers, I'd be over the moon!
Sorry but I'm calling nonsense on the Observatory elevation at 7200 feet having oxygen levels so low that you would
be out of breath just walking around.The Mauna Loa Observatory at 11,200 would be more representative of that description. Ego driven Neil deGrasse Tyson's career path evidently did turn out to be that of a salesperson.
He's arrogant and not that intelligent. Highly overrated by science worshipers.
⬆️ pair of tossers....
I concur with your comment on the elevation. As for Neil, yes he has a big ego and yes he's a salesman (after all everyone is selling something) and judging from his fame and income, he's a good one. If your ego can get by his, you can learn a lot and not just about astrophysics.
Wow 360 pages... whew!! Thanks Toby for giving a glimpse of Neil's work. I didn't understood much of it. I appreciate the philosophy of not worshipping, but understanding the work of creators. Respect for engineers who build the telescope in Chile to give us sneak peak into the galaxy.
Same guy that says there are only 4,000 visible stars in the night sky. He should go outside the city and touch dirt.
Wow. You took that whole thesis and presented it in a way even i can understand. You're amazing. Thank you!
The comment section is the greatest collection of experts in the history of our universe. We are so fortunate.
Compliments on a well constructed Sarcasm! Trust an Irishman to excel in derision of commentary.
You've the tongue as sharp as Freagarthach, “The Answerer” !!! Bhuel a dúirt, a Thiarna O'Hare! 😎
Since it’s perfectly possible to fantasize that I might read such a document under an extreme of duress I can’t imagine at the moment….thank you so much!
It's okay, even Neil doesn't understand what he's talking about 😂😭😭
Exactly!
tysons contribution to science is as odor is to a dirty boot.
Too many people seem to be falling into the trap of not understand what a science communicator does. He may not have discovered anything but as he stated in the interview shown "you may go your whole career and never discover anything. That's just the process of science. You're buying in to the journey, not the destination." I paraphrase. Through NDT I have met Carl Sagan, James Burke, Brian Cox, Pythagroras, Kepler, Isaac Asimov, Newton, Stephen Hawking and many other brilliant people! They have really opened my mind and made me a better person. We need more enlightened educators now more than ever! Just look at the state of the USA. Too many ppl believing in conspiracies and not critical thinking! My two cents. I'm just a war vet. Thank you Tibees for all of your videos!
It really shocks and saddens me when I see the scientifically-ignorant statements made by many Americans on social media nowadays. It seems such a far cry from the country many of us outsiders admired in the 1960s and 1970s, and on 20 July 1969 in particular.
@CNV Life (in all manners) is an ongoing PROCESS; your statement simply shows Your personal (rather negative) evaluation of vk2ig's statement. One of the common attributes of we Humans is the tendency to CRITICIZE knowing that this behavior shall more often than not find those who(m) agree with the criticism assuming anyone must be knowledgeable simply because they criticize.
Thus, the question arises; are you this sort of personality? HMMMMMMMMM??? 😎
I earned a PhD and trust me, the research is not as important as simply finishing the PhD.
Yup he is not smart. Just the right paper with right skin color at right time
Often the PHD is simply a get out of jail card / You may pass GO kind of achievement.... Ah, THE PAPER CHASE.... the recurring fact is those who can, DO... those who can't, TEACH..... as noted above there are Literally tens of thousands of PHDs running around the Scientific communities throughout the World, yet few of them (VERY FEW) do the cutting edge work...
Tyson should be awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Media Technocrat Blah Blah( M.T.B.B.)
@@seetheanimal5867 What a ridiculous comment; NDT is clearly an intelligent man. Slogging through years of college level physics (not to mention graduate level studies) is not something an average Joe can do. I am also not sure why you are responding to a statement that you clearly do not understand since it has nothing to do with your comment.
@@seetheanimal5867 much smarter than you with 10 iq
@@seetheanimal5867 it's okay buddy, life can get better, people can care about you and listen to you without having to write things like this, just because you are a person you are worthy of respect and understanding
I think you indeed put in lot of hard work to understand his thesis and then explain it in more simpler layman's language. I didn't understand everything but enough to appreciate what Tyson actually did. Thank you very much
Stop simping
She must be freakin smart as heck!
Hahahaha
@@mtest3136 You're not really into physics , are you?
normally astrophysicist never explain things in a way that a person with an average to slightly above average IQ would be able to understand the complexity of what they're saying. but Neil deGrasse Tyson is wonderful about that!
So thankful to Neil for doing all this work so that he could be an expert in gender identity, women's sports, and vaccines.
The way it was explained to me is that the point of your masters is to learn how to properly ask a question and the PHD is to learn how to properly answer a question. The undergraduate is where you gain the knowledge to be able to do the previous two things.
How the technology has changed. When Dr deGrasse Tyson took stellar spectra the spectrograph could measure only one star. NIRSpec onboard JWST can measure 100 targets simultaneously and in front of the sensors there is a grate with tiny doors (250000 of these) that can block / unblock the light
🙏
Crazy how different the "Top Comments" are, from a year ago, to "Newest First" comments, today, that show how poorly NDT's public perception is. He's the worst.
Yep was just seeing it😂
no, people who dislike him are
@@eingoluq oh honey, I'll pray for you
Funny how popular is for being "the worst."
The bar is lowered for certain students.
let's see yours
I've had a passion to learn history my whole life, absolutely dreaded math and tried to understand science. Listening to your soft voice explain complex topics is a great way to wind down and still learn. Thank you
Thank you Toby. That was very well explained and easy to listen to. Clear, concise and nicely paced. It makes a change from many creators who seem intent on ramming as much information down your throat in as short a time as possible. Subbed.
It's unbearable to listen to 🥺
08:15 “in astronomy a metal is any element that is not hydrogen or helium”
Me, a Chemist: 😨😨😨
That's why "in astronomy".
The horror lol
Nitrogen metal.
@@Noam_.Menashe metallic oxygen 😭
same same
He just famous, that doesn't mean he's a good scientist.
I love the projector scenes
I was quite surprised that he did not thank Carl Sagan in his thesis for being an early mentor as Neil recounted in his newer version of Cosmos. Either way, I have much gratitude to them both.
I heard he's not really the apprentice of Carl Sagan that he implies he was.
@@gcg8187 There are rumors that you like to claim that people implied things they never implied.
@@jayeff6712 there are rumors that you like to claim that people like to claim that people implied things they never implied
@@mcdirty311 Those are just rumors. I do not like to claim that people like to claim those things. Only if they do claim those things without any base for it I make those claims. I rather prefer not to be in a position where I feel I have to make those claims.
@@jayeff6712 lmfao 🤣
I'd never really looked that closely at his published work before, but I've always heard that for someone of his renown, he has a relatively small number of publications. It was interesting to see, though, that his co-author on his first paper was a collaborator I worked with frequently throughout the years. While one astronomer of his acknowledgments in his dissertation was another frequent collaborator. I wonder if they have any stories about him, but I haven't really spoken to either of them in some time.
for a full 30 seconds, when Tyson, had the time to go write a PhD thesis on Astrophysics. Then I remembered that Mike and Neil are two very different people.
Exellent video. Asmr voice, simple pitching, straight to the point. Love it.
The video was a pleasure to watch. You have a lovely voice and communicate so clearly.
Thanks for an insightful and educational view of Neil deGrasse Tyson's journey.
Affirmative Action "scientist".
You are brilliant for dissecting this and explaining it to the common person like myself to get a basic understanding of his PhD thesis. Thank you.
I don't understand why anyone would set out to bash Neil deGrasse Tyson? Why does his path matter? I think he's great.
Maybe because the critics are believers in only non-conservative rotational fields, where the path does matter?
⚪⚫ < this Is why
Yes, he is a treat spokesmen for the prevailing narrative. Science moves on, nothing is impervious to being knocked down by the truth discover process; except that is establishment science that has been corrupted by academic capture, cronie review process, etc. There is legitamate angst that is cast to the establishment and "concensus" and its gate keepers.
Because he's very narcissistic
@@25lighters91 the reasons listed here are more than enough to not go down the race card. Simply put, he is a celebrity scientist. He wouldnt be there if he was willing to rock the boat. Take Thomas Sowell for instance. He is black. He is probably the greatest American intellect and nobody knows him.
Real deep dives into physics, questioning the standard theory, leads us to free energy. They want us on the plantation.
Thank you, I am also an Astrophysicist without a PhD and I agree with you. Hence maybe writing some better software to model and track objects might be a better idea. Maybe work on geometry or particle physics. Maybe E&M and its relationship with the quasars and filaments.
Your voice is hypnotic and so is your understanding of the known universe. ❤😂😅😅
Re Tyson: I am the best at telling you I'm the best. vs Feynman: I am the best at telling you how to think. LOL just kidding though Tyson does seem to be a seeker of the 'look at me', 'look at me' centre of attention sort of PhDude.
Thanks Tibees for another fine, informational video. Glad I help sponsor you. 🙂
Thanks for the explanation. Was his thesis "great and original", as in the Copernicus' system where the Sun is at the center, with the planets circling it, and the stars are well above the planets? What would be original today? Explaining how to travel through time-space without fuel propellants? Studying an interstellar alien civilization? On a more practical level, his thesis may be good and on par with probably many good and acceptable theses, but he also brought the subject to millions in the general public, which is probably his most significant achievement.
Millions in the general public read his thesis? You’re having a laugh.
@@moriyokiri3229 no, they’re saying he brought the subject to millions in public due to his public communication and outreach that he does.
You don't have to be ground braking to be new, as in your examples; just different.
@@moriyokiri3229 He brought the subject of astronomy, not just his thesis, to millions in the general public,
@@Number6_ I would have been more impressed with a thesis on powering space vehicles by reversible electro-magnetism. The answer is probably sitting right in front of us, to be discovered by some high school student as a science project (and that's not necessarily public schools. It may be a home schooler.)
Excellent explanation. For those in the public that do not know, not all thesis are required to be defended when Peers Review it. It depends upon what Doctorate is being sought. When a Peer Review Committees at Universities actually ask questions to seek more information at a formal meeting, they expect defense of concepts with thorough explanations and the candidate better be ready. The committee must be satisfied with those responses because they take no prisoners during the review. 🙀
I really enjoy how soft your voice is! the science is billiant and its super easy listening (even though the material is very complex). Thank you Tibees! I will be coming back :)
*Neil DeGrasse Tyson has lost his mind. He is a diversity comedian who argues how aliens are not real but believes that gender is a fluid made up of 23478 pronouns.*
Thank GOD you read this thesis so I would not need to.
This is so cool. NDT is one of my favorite physicists and one of my personal physicists (joke on how he always says "im NDT and your personal physicist"). eccentric for sure but also talented, focused and open minded.
He's a great science educator, super famous, but when he was a physicist he was average tbh. I have a PhD in physics, may I suggest you some of my favorite actual physicists? Our field has amazing people that the public will never hear of
@@gcg8187 im pretty sure he was a better physicist than you will ever be, and nobody wants to hear about your "suggestions" just because you think you have a "Ph.D."
@@gcg8187 I would absolutely LOVE to be shown. Please tell me about these great minds lol
"So became an expert on galaxies"
This made me chuckle not because I doubted you but because it was just a tiny step in your bigger plan.
I never had the opportunity for much education. Videos like your are so important to me and are a great source of learning and pleasure. Thank so much.
He's great and very knowledgeable......
But he seems very narrow minded in his old age? He seems very objective to any views or theories that don't align with his? He gets very abrupt about something that nobody ACTUALLY knows the exact reason for why stuff happens in space? To me that's really put a dampner on his greatness?
That video is some good work! It takes a team of professionals to do what you do, well done
Very well put forth! It is true Neil deGrasse Tyson is an excellent communicator. I don't even have a college degree but I've always been curious about the universe and all the workings thereof. When I listen to him I can fathom it, I can imagine it and some of it actually makes sense to me. Thank you so much for sharing!
This is the first time I came across your channel. It sounds like you are constantly trying to hypnotize me with how soothing your voice is.
Many thanks for your diligent study of NdGT's PHd Thesis and for communicating it so clearly!
Neil has always seemed like someone pretending to be smart rather than actually having the gift of high intelligence.
I'm truly sorry that you had to experience such profound narcissism. But you have my admiration and respect for doing so so that we didn't have to.
It is impressive how two brothers Mike and Neil de Grasse Tyson were able to succeed in so very different fields... amazing, what a family
The new problem in Astro physics is time curvature has change distance and age of our galaxy old models are becoming problematic in definition of design and understanding. Because we have more information verifying mass in substantial quantities where previously thought none, calculation of our modern models is out the window and perhaps some PHD thesis‘s aswell. Hint hint.
This was an accidental click. Stayed for the ASMR lol. Great channel! Much enjoyed
I love this video! My understanding of any of any of this pale in comparison to you. And obviously Niel's. But I love learning from you guys/gals. You are the unsung heroes of our generation. Keep up the good work and keep the science coming!
I love your videos❤️❤️🌹
when do you think he sold out
i READ THIS TITLE AS MIKE TYSON'S PHD THESIS