We Shouldn't Celebrate This
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In the past few decades, society has seen a shift in masculine culture. We need to have a discussion about how much is too much. When does something healthy become unhealthy?
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As a boy in the 1960s, I didn't want to LOOK like Superman or Batman. I wanted to DO WHAT THEY DID. Which is a much different thing.
Probably partly because the 60s action figures didn't look as ripped as they do today. You weren't bombarded with the muscle addiction on a handheld device for multiple hours a day either. Look at bodybuilders from the 60s and compare them to todays.
Okay. You're only one person though
@@IcchiNutz Yeah, maybe. But my comment has 55 likes in less than 24 hours. 🙂
@@artawhirler And what do you conclude from these likes?
@@fritzbox6764 That lots of people agree with me. Oh look, it's up to 60 now! 🙂
Everyone wants to call out "unrealistic body types" yet no one wants to put in the work to show us the peak "realistic body type".
@VitruvianPhysique aka Igor Opeshansky does, he has one of the most amazing bodies I've seen and he is a lifetime natural (and yes he has stated and proved it several times throughout the years). I'd say he's a very good role model.
That's cuz it's dad bod.
There's no specific body type. It's only the healthy and non healthy and even that has variations because our bodies are different.
@@vampireclan3814 ... No it's not if you think outside your country and the year
@@BOUND-573 that reply made no sense.
Sam sulek has been very open about his use of medications during his career. He also has stated that he doesn’t recommend it to anyone.
Eddie Abbew talked about it also.
There's also been a doc by tifo podcast on systemic doping by football teams.
yeah I laughed when I read the title 'that no one is talking about'. Lol literally everyone is talking about PEDs in influencer circles
I appreciate that he changed the thumbnail this guys a good UA-camr
Many man idealize his physic which is sad.
@@bhumikjoshi4573 I don’t think it’s sad, being inspired to better yourself is never a bad thing. Now I get the impossibility of reaching that level without meditation, but this idealism is better than the alternative.
I played with power rangers, barbies, gi Joe, Legos, tnmt, and tons more toys. I don't recall ever associating how I'm supposed to look from any toy. I think maybe we should give kids more benefit than that. Just be a presence in their life and teach them the best you can
I don’t recall comparing myself to my toys, but I can say those toys and the movies I watched shaped what I think of as the ideal male form. And it’s definitely brought me distress having never achieved that form. It’s not something I could have ever vocalized to my parents because it was more subconscious. I don’t know if it would have made a difference if they sat me down to talk about unrealistic body expectations, but it couldn’t have hurt. So I guess I’m saying parents should have the discussion with their kids regardless. It won’t be necessary for every kid but it might help some.
@@nicsmall589 hey it is cool you can kind of verbalize it now. Thanks for the reply .
Yes teach kids the best you can, but I don't understand the rest of your comment considering this realization. It is not the kids fault or anything we could give them any benefit about. It is a psychological effect, the way our brain works. Your anecdotal experience doesn't change that nor does the fact that there are more influences on kids than just what they see or what their parents teach them.
Don't get me wrong I agree on the teach as best part. I just don't get why you would add the first part of your comment. To maximize good influence on kids (teaching them) shouldn't rule out minimizing bad influence (establishing a realistic body image in media).
@@fritzbox6764 ...where did I say that there was a fault to be pointed to? Give kids the benefit that they are more perceptive and receptive than perhaps some of us think. Parents are the first and most constant (at least should be) influence on them, and they choose what tv show they sit their kids in front of to watch, it is parents/guardians who buy the toys. There is no fault. I literally said teach them as best as one can, and that would involve "minimizing bad influence"
@@layna-heyhey ...where did I say that you said that?
What you said now is basically to explain how parents may have influence on their kids. That and how and how much influence they have doesn't change the fact that there are many more influences they are subjected to. No matter how much benefit you want to give the kids they are still human beings and therefore still subject to neurological and psychological effects. Adults undergoe the same processes as kids when they watch movies, walk by an ad, overhear a conversation, see how and why others receive praise etc.
I hope I made it more clear now.
Edit: And I already said what I meant with "minimizing bad influence" in this context here and that is "establishing a realistic body image in media". That should show you what I mean in general. Parents don't have influence on this in their role as a parent towards their children. They only have an influence on this in their role as citizens of a democratic state, as parents in a democratic state and so on.
I based my life on LEGOS. God help me.
Just means you are good at building a Fondation for life.
@Rick-xe8j is that a fondue foundation?
@zakgault4209 hahahaha 😆 just realized the spelling. I thought the quote was so good that I had to get it out there too quickly.
@@Rick-xe8jj 😂👍
LEGO
Im at a stage in my life where most of what I once held dear to me are and have always been an unnecessary purchase. Now I try to get rid of everything that adds no value to me and embrace a minimalistic lifestyle.
I still have material possessions here and there to add character and personality to my life, but this, along with getting off social media, has helped me find what I truly value, also showing me that I can have a lot more with a lot less
This doesn't sound like a capitalist and very un-American of you ☹️
@@Dave_of_Mordor HAHAHAH
Sponsored by better help... ah yes, the most fitting partner
wish more people were more aware of what betterhelp has done in the past
Real talk!
Alright boys here are the best natural bodybuilding channels. Natural Hypertrophy. Bald Omni Man. Geoffrey Verity Schofield. Alex Leonidas. Basement Bodybuilding. Faz Lifts. Then there's the team 3DMJ crew, Omar Issaf and the iron culture crew, Steve hall and Pascal at revive stronger or the improvement season podcast, and the guys at the brains and gains podcast. Another Steve I think at FitnessFAQs.
For the science of hypertrophy check out Jeff Nippard, Renessaince periodization, house of hypertrophy, and flow high performance.
Stay natty boys.
I'd like to add Milo Wolf to the list 😎 & Wolf Coaching. Also Jonni Shreve.
I really look forward to RP/Dr. Mike & Jeff Nippard's uploads.
You should add MovementbyDavid he does great work in flexibility
One of the non-brain rot comments. Thank goodness. Replying so it helps move it to the top
Great advice 👍
Showing this video to this kids I teach as they asked me about the importance of the gym the other day and I wanted to give an answer but didn’t want them to get the wrong idea about physic and what it means to train our bodies. Wonderful thoughts!
Imagine speaking about the importance of mental health and then running an ad for Better Health...
Fr. It’s a money grab for desperate people who can’t afford actual therapy
@@smileymcgee6584 I've never used BetterHelp before. Do you not recommend it? I almost applied to work there in the past.
atleast he's helping, would you rather the sponser to be raid shadow legends and nord vpn or something relating to health
@@styluspixelsproduction513 That's the point, BetterHelp is bad because there have been many cases of unlicensed therapists working for them, who actually made problems worse for people using BetterHelp. A bad therapist can do very real and long-lasting damage.
So no, it's not helping.
Hypocrisy of yt content creators who consider themselves holier than thou . his videos even though touch important themes have just a woke narrative it isn't realism he doesn't provide another side like why these boys are taking supplements,why they are forced to be physically superior etc
It's really good !!!people need to hear this .❤
Well said. I hope that watching this video will help the younger ones in this community. And when working out, focus on that one moment, because that can make you feel good. It's a long-term endever anyway.
1:56 - My actual reaction when a youtuber goes into the sponsor segment
We're all gonna make it brahs
Thanks bro, you the best ❤
Thank you sir
can youtubers PLEASE stop taking BetterHelp as a sponsor? theyre really bad
😮😮😮😮😮whhhatttt really?
Did you try them?
What's your experience with them?
@oximas-oe9vf I doubt this guy has direct experience, but I know where he's coming from. There's loads of videos on UA-cam, one I saw is called "UA-camrs NEED to stop taking betterhelp as a sponser" by the karnvalce, or something like that. It's about half an hour long
@@oximas-oe9vf wish more people were more aware of what betterhelp has done in the past
As along term follower ofthos channel i have to say thank you. This is just what I needed!
Life is good when Aperture drops !!!
@@zoomer619 group of propagandists
this is part of the reason that led me to go on a complete social media cleanse
I love going to the gym !!!
Not even a second was wasted here
This video should be required viewing for teenagers. 10 minutes of perfectly concise reality.
What do you mean by "perfectly concise reality"? "Unrealistic expectations" are also reality
My experience growing up whatching superman, goku ect was never for their body because i was told that it was an unrealistic body image that was only in the movies and shows. I watched them because they inspired me to be like them. To never give up, to protect those that were weaker than me. And to generaly be a good person. because that is their purpose. their ripped bodies where just a bonus, something cool to look at. and i mean if you just worked out a lot and eat healthy you could get bit like that.
so i dont think they should change the characters. parents should educate their children to look at what they do instead of how they look. that what they do is whats important
Agree 100%! Inspiration is important to young minds. You just have to teach kids that it is about the journey, not the final destination!
But hey, that's just a theory. A film theory.
A fitness theory
A Natty theory! 😅
I'm natural. I've been working out for about 2 years a little more(i stopped counting). I've gained 7-8kg but I'd say 10-20% of it is just fat and the rest is muscle.
One thing I got wrong is that I thought lifting more heavy weight for less reps would make me gain muscle...(no). Actually... my strength and muscle increased when I started from 10 reps and pushed up to 15 reps. I did that x3 sets and when I feel i can do 18-20 I increase the weight. This way my strength would increase or I gain some muscle to compensate for it.
I don't look huge. In fact.. I look 'smaller' because I also lost a lot of fat but I still have fat in areas where I don't like it but "IT IS WHAT IT IS". I'm lifting and improving myself. I'm in my third year in the gym. I increased my walking endurance a lot more and my strength over the years were 'good' but not like the one in social media telling you 'you should be able to lift 100kg in a bout a year or two'. Well... yes if I actually was too dedicated but I had other stuff doing also. I kept pushing and pushing and I can lift pretty much good amount. I'm not forcing myself too much to the point of getting exhausted and barely be able to do anything or have fatigue the next workout comes. I just do 1 more rep every day if I could and if I can't I take a step back. So far... it worked pretty well BUT ITS DAMN SLOW.
Keep at it! I'm natural as well. The gains are slow but natural bodybuilding teaches you a valuable lesson in persistence and discipline that being on PED's dull down quite a bit. That lesson is so important though, more than getting more muscle mass.
@@Kingkillwatts its damn slow...
It is indeed a slow process. It's taken me 7 years to go from being obese to somewhat fit, strong and healthy. But the mental aspect is oh so worth it. Slow progress teaches you resillience and gives you insane mental strength to fight through adversity. Keep going!
Some protein powders can have steroids...?
Can you tell me which ones
So i can avoid them...
Steroids in the whey! That's terrible!
Where?
Hahahaha😂
Never cared about muscles. I do stretching / mobility exercises and that’s it. Prolongs you feeling young when you can move around freely
You don't want to look like Dwayne Johnson?
You should check out MovementbyDavid he does a lot of stuff that centers around mobility and flexibility
@@Dave_of_Mordor not really, no
@@Dave_of_Mordor I prefer to look more like Bruce lee that the Rock. Water can split the rock with ease.
I'd rather be quick and agile than big and strong
I only played with a really old toy caled: 🔥 FIRE 🔥
Listening to this at the gym 😂😂
I've no muscles though ha
Thank you, i needed this now :)
It isnt just cultural that causes a two income house. That clock started once the US got off gold and purchasing power dropped. Gold is the spending chaperone for politicians.
i mostly played with things like dominos when i was a kid, alongside video games like far cry 2, half-life 2 and civilization 5
and more dangerous stuff like knifes and fire
Character Development is realizing that being Lean, Healthy, Big Strong Bones, Great Frame >>>>Gym
My son is in gymnastics, he got his first medal yesterday , it's silver but shines like a gold. The kid has many years ahead , what's important is that it's very healthy for his body and mind and that he loves it. My older son loves swimming but he's not in any team, just swims when he feels like it.
@@Touchedbynature304 W Parent moment. Proud of you Mom/Dad, Keep them away from the gym and into healthy living!
I was 16 years old, 6 foot in height and only weighed 48kg, which is over 20kg underweight on the lower weight for my height, I had been skinny since I was a kid, and I was a very active even won gold and silver medals in athletics in my school, but the notion of everyone around me always remained that I was a stick figure, I was always point out when I met someone new that don't I eat at all, even tho I ate as much as I wanted to, problem came when buying clothes as I looked even more skinny in some so my choices got very low, after being said many things by girls my age elders and even my father, i started gym, I have a long way to go, I just turned 18 and now weigh 60kg, and this alone took me a lot of pain and suffering, I am improving just gaining to reach my real goal of at least 80 as soon as I can in a healthy way and then reach 90 slowly over the years, I have always been insecure about my weight cause everyone would point it out. And me not have strength in the sense of power also made it worse when I did get into some fights. Well I hooe get to my goal, and I believe I will look better, and get confidence to talk to girls, as I already am looking better than before.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Now I wear a back pack like a shell and deliver pizzas!
My frist toy was a stick with a large round plastic bucket cover
We'd use the stick to guide to guide the plastic around
It was way more than you'd think
I think this is a great and important topic people and yes especially women should really disect this notion of "ideal" or what is "normal". Trully a pandora's box of topics. I think a great topic I would love your take on is what your already touched on in several of your videos. The idea...the notion the very fiber of what a hero is...Every culture has one. Whether they are dieties or fables. Joseph Cambell touch on it alot. I studied it also in college. I would love your take on it one day. Heroes from Martin Luther King to Ghandi to George Washington to Gilgamesh to Hercules to Superman to Spiderman. I think they say alot about us as a species.
I based my life on a wandering mindset. NEVER able to have a normal relationship, but I try. I'm okay walking wherever. Hikers hike, Walkers Walk.
Great Video! You are a good man
pro bodybuilding is an industry based on steroids.
the more disconnected we become, the more superficial we become. in desperation for connection, we become fake and lost. unaware the price we pay is our life.
Where do I find the audio tracks from the Stoicism: Become Undefeatable video?
the problem with better help that no one is talking about
Dude..3 times a day in the gym.. I asked guys whom were actually working out for tips and help..just don't interrupt them..most people are happy to give you pointers.. just ask politely and accept he might want to finish his workout first not just that set..or ask to work in with someone using a machine that's super easy to switch weight
You should write a book
The idealized male form portrayed in media and toys as a kid was only a benefit to me; sure as I grew up I realized that it’s very rare (if not impossible) to fulfill that GI Joe physique, but nevertheless it inspired me to work harder and yields only positive results. I’m 26 years old, I have an engineering job and a consistent workout regimen that’s gotten me from a 130lb twig to a 175lb athletic physique over the course of 5 years of consistent, natural bodybuilding. The fake natties are a huge issue and I despise them, but overall the workout culture is more positive than negative. I’d say the biggest issue is that many parents don’t give their kids the love, attention and confidence they need to stay away from the PED’s and be confident with their natural results and learn that it takes time to build a good physique you’re proud of.
Well said brother. I am a fellow engineer and bodybuilder, and I couldn't agree more. I'd argue it is important for young minds to have someone to look up to; someone that inspires them and can see themself becoming as great or greater than their role model. I'm 23 now and I have no doubt that watching dragon ball Z, playing video games with strong male characters, etc. has shaped the way that I carry myself and my identity. After getting serious at the gym I went from lean and 165lbs to 205 and pure muscle. I say that not to brag, but to shine a light on the importance of *inspiration* and how many young kids are not being inspired or looking up to anyone like they used to. This is very sad and will undoubtedly have a large negative effect on society as a generation of youth grew up with no long-term goal, no inspiration to give them purpose and direction. Kids need that.
Gym doesn´t fix your life and newer look up to anyone! - got it :)
My Respect for this Channel grew immensely. ❤
I usually agree with your opinions, and I see your points on unrealistic goals, but I think having a goal and wanting to look like Chris Hemsworth etc. is no problem and only helps the society in keeping standards.
Fitness of the mind is far more important than any physical fitness of the body. Then again, you have to keep your mind and body both healthy to survive in this world, and there's nothing more healthy than simply being up to dare on important issues in this world coming from Apertures videos of course.
Im a chemical engineer that can bench 315 and squat 405. I simply prioritized both. It's not impossible.
Isn’t this similar to anthropomorphizing a child based on faulty/ biased memories?
Sticks. Played w really cool sticks
I played with bionicles, hot wheels, and remote controlled cars; what does that mean for me.
Most of the problems are related with food consumption. Bad food. Too much food or too little. With exercises and balance will will be your best version.
What should I avoid and what should I eat?
i workout to become yujiro hanma , i'll become the strongest
You did really say protein powder can have stereoids. This invalidates everything you've said before that. Look up what whey is
5:01 Wish I knew what part of my growing up let me avoid this 'copy what we see' thing. I liked what I saw, often. but never felt any need to BE them, or be like them. I was me. that was enough. Not enough to do well in school, apparently, but enough. :) and much of my entertainment on tv back then came from america. subtitled. letting me hear what they actually said and read what some doofus in the company thought it meant. (on the whole, I have figured the only way to properly subtitle shows is to hire people who LOVE THE SHOW, and know both lanugages involved. 'fandubs' have far and away been the most accurate I've experienced.
All I want is to play football and basketball for fun and to keep my weight below 85kgs. That's all.
We're all aspiring to become the hulk, let's be honest, when we're inspired by fitness influencers we attempt to become evenly as fit as the hulk from this video's thumbnail.
Genetics also play a huge factor in having a good looking physique. But the thing is, not everyone will have good genetics, hence why some people resort in using drugs.
I lifted weights for an entire year with a personal trainer and my body never looked any different. Some people build more easily than others. Just like some lose weight more easily than others. I've tried telling people this and all I hear is "You're just lifting wrong bruh."
@@roderickcortez138 Have you tried consulting a professional nutritionist? You should give it a shot.
Legos and my Nintendo ds was my childhood
8:10 so what I get from this is that all of this is basically based in women taking the provider role. Can it be the fact that mother was at home most of the time that let me ignore the 'be like me' nonsense in media at the time? curious.
You are right about the image of men being 6 pack and big all the time, but my problem lies in first not go the female route, which is body positivity to fat acceptance and just new a recent report came that even more of the population is getting overweight and obese, not just that but the younger population under 18 as the parents not looking out and giving their kids junk food so our life expectancy is now lowered, this is to say gym culture for guys if you know not to go non natty look is so good, this new trend to me at least is very good for all the guys and our thinking of I was to look like characters I look upto and train for it have a motivation even if impossible to reach doesn't stop us from the goal of a healthy lifestyle is great and women on the other hand pointing out things like women looking too sexy in games and media will not stop and there should be more fat girls does not make sense, nobody wants to see, and if you can change something about it and not do it, then it is your fault and on the same page as a short guy, he can't change his height and looked down as human by women cause he is not 6 foot even tho he is taller than her
They need to put an age limit on apps and social network. We weren’t allowed to go see an R rated movie until 18. I don’t understand how this was not put in to place from the beginning.
thumbnail looks like Baki vs Yujiro
Imagination. We had minimal toys. We made things out of things around us. I admit I was jealous of kids with Transformer toys! I still am.
This rant has no bases in reality the reason heros are strong is because they worked hard for a goal barbie is beautiful through her hard work to be whoever she wants to be I see better help is a sponsor here's a thought toughen up butter cup you can be a hero through hard work too
Moms didnt buy me much. But i would make stuff and try and fix things we found in the trash. My swiss army knife was my life
literally everyone is talking about this 😅
People who care about their health aren't body image police
I olayed legos and a toy called action man, a batman toy as well in childhood. The good ol'days for me when life was less complex for me (even though i was and still am a complex individual mentally and biologically)
This is so true. All the toys I had growing up had big muscles. All the action men in movies had big muscles. So I thought once I became a man I'd naturally have big muscles. But in reality, I'm scrawny 😅
We should just do what we enjoy. Mankind can't handle this whole image thing for much longer. We're ripping apart at the seams.
Thankfully when you’re actually busy doing things you have less time to dwell on the influx of social media influences.
One thing I feel sad I lost from my childhood is my imagination 😢
3:30 I think we say ACROSS america, and those who brainlessly try to copy them.
Does anyone know the song played at 8:30 to the end?
It in the description all the way down (I won't type the whole thing) away by patrick
The words in the intro are much deeper than the surface...
Unfortunately, that is true. Today, a guy with well-defined arm and chest muscles will be much better treated from the start than a skinny or even worse, a fat guy. It is kinda good cuz it encourages you to be good-looking and healthy; it also sucks cuz it can get you to pursue an unachievable career.
I loved playing cards.I always thought I was an 8 or a 9 but turns out I'm a queen.
That darn society again making us do bad things against our will like not being a total pansey.
If only it didn't teach us these things then we could all be winners
I played with muscle-bound toys and grew up with DBZ, it got me to work out a bit to where i have a bit of muscle and that's about it. It wasn't harmfull in any way shape or form. But if we're talking about influencers, that's a different can of worms, because they lie to you about everything.
-looks at Guts from Berserk-
Ill never look like him...but im going to try. I deserve to look like a greek god. And feel like one too. And that means i gotta work for it.
Light weight baby! LIGHT WEIGHT!
Is it just me or this video runs in background too
Hell nah, I need to be batman and look like baki thats why I hit the gym.
There is 'Unrealistic' and there is 'achievable if you got the mind and the genes'. not the same. FYI, society.
Hello
Arnold wouldn’t look small today tbh but he would definitely look fat
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It's ironic how our media promotes body positivity for women who are not geneticly curvy, busty, hour glass body shape but when it comes to men, if a men don't have big muscles, six abs etc. he is considerd as unattractive male.... Forgetting the same factor that affects womens body shape, which are genetics.
But they're not wrong it is unattractive
@@rickyfitness252sure, their point wasn't wether or not that is the case
@@rickyfitness252 Sorry rickyfitness. We can't all be as gorgeous as you. I'm sure you're probably a Calvin Klein underwear model.
but that's the thing about being male, you can develop those things by training and living a healthy lifestyle. Even women can have a nice body if they eat healthy. Men can grow their muscle with the right factors in place, genetics only affect muscle insertions
@@luciferalpha6835 True, the media is ironic, probably always will be and the reason is the two genders will always be fundamentally different, and therefore will be treated differently no matter how 'equal' a society tries to force its people to be.
Why would anyone want to bring kids into such superficial world?
The problem isn't what teenagers need to do in order to satisfy themselves in relation to looking muscular and attractive.
The prospect of Civil war in the United States exists in conjunction with the coming presidential election, and the horrors being inflicted upon Palestinians in Gaza deserve our attention. Why? The same heavy handed military response will be used to put down an uprising here in North America, and those same soldiers dropping bombs upon Gaza will commit war crimes closer to home.
We could worry about how we look, and what it takes to have the body of Captain America, or we could ask ourselves if we care enough to prevent another population from suffering the impact of genocidal warfare occurring with the blessing of our tax dollars.
War is coming, and our gym memberships will mean less than our basic survival skills. Prepare yourselves for what is coming, and seek out sources of information that will ultimately provide you with that capacity.
None of you will have the luxury of living in a stable society, because the middle class of North America no longer exists. The very same corporations polluting our natural environment consider all of us to be their property. We are nothing but slaves who are led to believe otherwise.
Get prepared. I wish all of you the very best.
Thank you for making a video about men’s mental health. This has always been neglected. As someone who’s been through this and still struggle with it from time to time, even creeping up on 40, young men need to understand that genetics play a huge role in these “influencers”, as well as steroid abuse/use. Not everyone will have that perfect symmetrical physic that you see and strive to get. Never compare yourself, just strive for the best that’s been given to you.
Fitness influencers using steroids should be a common knowledge by now. If you still fell for this in the age of information, then it's 100% on you
As a preteen when I really started to look at my body in compared to others I did not look like the girls in the magazines or the girls in my class or the girls in shows,, and then one day we were watching The Animated gargoyles and I realize I look like the characters in that my legs were ridiculously huge bodybuilder huge because I was always on my bike and swimming with fins and hiking it was weird and gross and scary until I seen that gargoyle chick looking that way she had a little tiny chiseled waist like me and huge legs,, do you know what it's like being a preteen girl and not being able to find pants that fit you anywhere.....
So yeah how about you shut up and realize that muscular people actually benefit people who look that way and there are plenty of other people for you to look at and identify with
But isn’t being masculine/physically healthy good?
Yes , but not turn it into an obsession.
Isn't this just my problem if I comare myself with the guys on social media?
On a primal level muscles do impress women.
But here's the thing, heroes are supposed to be larger-than-life, models who are supposed to be more attractive than the average person. All this "it's an unrealistic body standard" shit is pathetic. Like who tf wants to have an obese Captain America toy? Hey look kids here is average Captain Slob he is just as pathetic as your uncle who has given up on himself and life. Good vid regardless tho.
I dont agree with the premise of this video