The 5 Most Overused Drum Fills
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Just because a fill is overused doesn’t mean it’s bad - it’s probably popular because it’s effective!
If you’re like most drummers, you probably have your go-to fills or patterns that you naturally play without thinking. If you aren’t sure, record a few of your practice sessions and you might start to pick up on your habits and identify your go-to vocabulary.
There’s nothing wrong with playing ‘overused’ licks! But if you want to make your drumming as interesting as possible - and play something unique that fits the song perfectly - here are some of the most common fills and how to branch out from some of them.
0:00 Intro
2:39 Around the world
Beginners know this one well: it’s four on the snare followed by four on each tom. What if you used the same sticking but moved it around in a different way? Experiment with different orchestrations, groupings, and patterns. If you always play groups of four on each drum, try groups of two instead.
3:44 Pat Boone, Debby Boone
It usually starts on the count of 3 and it sounds exactly like the rhythm of saying the two names. How about adding a drag on the snare right before going into it?
5:20 The six stroke roll
This one works really well, but like any lick, it’ll get stagnant if you do it all the time (here’s looking at you, drummers who love trash can endings). Change it up by keeping more of the accents on the snare and only sparsely moving to the toms. Practice going into the six stroke roll from the five stroke roll or seven stroke roll. You’ll find some new patterns and sounds by combining rudiments.
7:02 The herta
A herta is two notes of one value, followed by two notes of double that value, played as single stroke rolls. It’s popular for a reason!
8:56 The blushda
Flams and double strokes make this a fun one at tempo. The name is an onomatopoeia - it sounds like ‘blush-da’.
If these fills fit the music, that’s great - but imagine if all songs used the same fills. What are we hammering to death and how can we get out of that rut and keep innovating? How can we push ourselves to get better?
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After you have learned how to branch out with your fills, check out the "Must-Know Drum Grooves" ua-cam.com/video/1aEz6B7wRfA/v-deo.html
I wish i have a drumset, even old. Please.
Ok
The herta and the six stroke roll are the ones I struggle with the most.
You can’t talk about a crappy church recording you did when you were in high school without playing it for us.
you've got a point
#SHOWUSTHETAPE
#SHOWUSTHETAPE
ummm,,,he DID play it...several times
Jeff Porcaro Groove ummm....he literally did not play the recording he made, not once.
Church music and overused fills, name a more iconic duo.
haha!
What’s the difference between the two😂
Gotta keep things simple to appease the congregation 😆
Because if you do anything more than a Pat Boone Debbie Boone all the white people clapping on 1 and 3 will get confused!
Contemporary Christian Music for sure. Gospel music, eh, not so much.
I couldn’t believe that a lot of people do these fills. I thought it was just me but I just watched the intro and felt like he’s been watching me while I drum! 😂
Haha!
Okay, I didn't wake up this morning to be personally attacked like this with fills 3 and 5 . . .
RLRLKK should definitely be on this list. That being said, I am guilty of using that one a ton
Expected that to be the first one Jared covered!
Or just RLKK or RLK
True. Maybe I do a follow-up at some point.
Lol combinations of RLK, RLKK, RLRLKK, and hertas around the toms was all I did in my drum career and people were impressed... I played metal though.... the mike Portnoy technique....
Most of the stuff in this is much more creative than RLRL
@@neonblack211 yeah people always are. Bet drummers weren't :D
I mostly play metal and my most overused fill is definitely single stroke rolls in groups of 2 or 4 followed by 2 kicks (let's say RLRL KKRL RLKK RLKK). it's really simple, effective and adjustable/versatile for accenting the riff, but I'm definitely guilty of overusing it lol
AKA Portnoy fills...yeah those are such a fun clean go-to for metal/fast drumming.
“Around the World” fill aka “Caveman fill.” John Bonham was the master of making that sound great!
Also, one easy way to change up these fills (besides the ways you’re talking about) is to displace where in the bar you’re playing the fill (let’s say start on the and of 2 instead of 3). Helps your time and sounds funky!
Hearing him do that on live performances constantly is why it's a go-to fill for me lol
Crazy how good he makes such a simple fill sound.
Also just messing around with accents--both in where you place them and what you're hitting when you do.
Yes, and you can do different groupings, too. Like groups of 3 or 5, delineated by the accents. Then you go down the rabbit hole of metric modulation... 🙂
Somebody make a gif of Jared looking at the camera and saying “hot dang!”
Back in the 70’s I owned vinyl records called “Drum Drops”. I believe the drummer was David Crigger. These were records with song length drum grooves and fills. That is where I first heard the Herta. As a 10-12 year old drummer it blew my mind and I HAD to learn it. So did my parents, my neighbors and all my bandmates! Yea, we all go through it! 🤣
5 most overused ones ....
still can't perfect them
Nobody is perfect. Just take the next step and you'll continue to make progress.
this answer is perfect though.
I remember the first day where my hands did a herta and it felt like I was god lmao. These fills have there place! But they become so comfortable that your hands just go on autopilot and do them. Keep it up!
When Jared failed at his drumming it makes me Motivated because as much as he do as a professional Drummer and he failed that time. It boosted my self View on my drumming that I am not only one even the Pros made mistakes and I will Grind myself into its Finest. Thank you so much!!
Never stop "The Grind". Keep up the hard work! 🙂
I’ve been playing drums since I was 2 (26 years), and been playing professionally for about a decade. Here are some things I do every single day on my gigs. 1) drop my sticks 2) lose the “1” 3) miss my cymbals 4) whack myself in the face 5) straight up drop out in the middle of certain drum fills because I was too ambitious. I could go on and on. Don’t let anyone, including yourself, ever convince you that professionals are untouchable elites. The only difference between a professional, and a novice, aside from maybe a few key essential skills (solid meter, etc), is that we are making our mistakes in front of a bunch of people and for some reason are being paid to do that. Don’t ever be afraid to “fail”.
@@kevinbothwell8425 Thanks for sharing.. I always thought if I had started young I wouldn't have half of those problems.
The "Pat Boone Debbie Boone" fill reminded me of fills laid all over November Rain and some other songs from Use Your Illusion . Matt Sorum seems particularly fond of those.
Haha yeah Matt came to mind first too. I can basically predict what fill he's gonna do before he does it
Yeah... i play that fill all the time. It just really works.
It’s all over the entire two use your illusion albums
Ringo Monsanto Lol, I love Pat Boone Debbie Boone..
Reminds me of “Say it Ain't So" by Weezer.
2 more for the list:
the 'Portnoy' fill for anyone using double bass pedals.
the 'MoTown' fill
Bonham style triplets
(snare) K,K R,L K,K R,L,R,L K,K
(tom1) R,L K,K
(snare) R,L,R,L K,K
(tom1or2) R,L K,K
(tom2or3) R,L K,K
(snare and *china) R+L
The Modified Pull Me Under *SO DAMNED GUILTY*
Christian T Blake makes up for it with everything else he conjures up in those 10 minute tracks :)
Thank you Jared..you are my inspiration..I just got my drum kit and your videos have helped me a lot..I always wanted to learn drumming right from my childhood but was not able to afford a kit or attend classes..it took 30 long years to buy my first ever drum kit and your videos have helped me a lot.. cheers from India!
In Finland we call the 'Bat Boone Debby Boone' -fill the 'rec-tum-ta-ka-tum'. Maybe doesn't sound so fitting in english for... Obvious reasons. 😂
I don't know why it would be that much different in English... Though I do think what makes it even more funny in Finnish is the fact that "taka" also means "behind". It's a wordplay that wouldn't work that well in English.
I'm from the UK and I know it as "Flat in Dagenham". (Dagenham is a town on the edge of London, pronounced "Dag-un-um").
i bought new drum heads but i WREKT EM from practicing that fill
Jared I have been watching your videos for years, your humble teaching style is very inspiring. Thank you so much for everything
Jared your kit looks awsome from overhead . Paiste's are incresing the beauty
Just came across this lesson. It’ll certainly make me more aware of what I am playing! Thank you 😊
this video reminds me of musicians who forget they aren't in the audience anymore. yes, all the familiar material gets boring, that means you've mastered it. if you think about performing like a magic act you'll realize that it's not about constantly chasing new material. excellent execution and moving the audience become a source for fulfillment in playing the same thing over and over.
same thing with touring bands using the same setlist. on the road i would lose track of what day it was and what town we were in but i knew what song came next and that was my anchor to sanity. and pulling off the licks in the music and seeing the audience having the times of their life were what brought me joy. i hope this helps as much as your videos do.
I generally overuse Bonham style triplets, but none of these except the second one. I can play all of them, they just never really fit with what I'm going for.
My most overused drum fills are the ones I learnt most recently 😂
it changes quite often
Some things I have tried to put in my fills is grandmas rLrr lRll
Swiss triplets
And more stuff between the kick snare and hi hats
They're called swiss army triplets
The Pat Boone, Debby Boone fills, I remember I learned it from listening to Matt Sorum playing on Guns'N'Roses, he could just play it so full and grand.
That was a fun video! Love your enthusiasm.
Super cool point! Great vid! Thanks drumeo
5 overused drumfills
But they sound good....🤗
Right?!
@@alexanderb5376 Not overused, most useful.
I'm just learned the best way to be aware and don't feel guilty for using same fills.. Thanks Jared
After all these years still great content! Thanks Jared!
My most overused fill is the flams down the toms like in Gimme Shelter by the Rolling stones
C'mon.....pick a REAL drummer, and it ain't Charlie. Have you ever watched him in concert? I was better in highschool....and that was 50 years ago.
Tommy Nikon are you really saying your a better drummer than Charlie Watts?
@@tommynikon2283 Charlie not only still plays in a rock band(rolling stones) he also plays in a jazz band( Charlie watts quintet) he is one of the most consistent and talented drummers of all time.
Why you gotta call me out publicly like this, Jared?
Lesson No.1: Whenever someone mentions "Lars", laugh.
Jared: Blushda? blushda blushda blushda blushda you’re blushda-ing on the drums
My subtitles: Blister blister blister blister blister you’re bloods dying on the drums
Some sick fucking death metal lyrics yo.
Gustav?
I wanted some new fill. Thankyou jared and drumeo... Love from India 🌷😍
Another top tip I was once given was "see how far you can play just listening to the other musicians with NO FILLS AT ALL." Actually, very, very hard.
Too many fills is similar to saying LIKE all the time.
Totally agree: Love my Rotos!!!
I agree. I myself use the 6-strokeroll WAY to much.. but more often than not I actually just play one 6-stroke roll and then a quarter note on beat 4, so it sort of sets up for a new section.. making it breath I guess. But I use it too much. The blushda is just super cool but I don´t use it that much, more like a similar flam thing (same phrasing) without the extra diddle. Nice video and you play great Jared!
I have pretty much nothing to say about the video because I was just gawking at how amazing your drums sound Jared
Every metal drummer watching this is guilty of over using RLRLKK myself included
I love the sound of your drums. What Evans heads to you use on your kit and snare?
The blushda is like "the lick" but for drummers
Jarred, what equipment are you using? The drums and cymbals sound great.
I gotta start using some of these over used fills!!
I like how Jared looked disgusted while he was demonstrating how he used to play the pat boone Debby Boone lol
It was an abomination.
Church drumming is very challenging and I’m never satisfied with mine. Takes a lot of control, restraint and most all, tonal precision. Good video Jerod.
"Herta is an overused drum fill"
*Brann Dailor has entered the chat*
I am Brann Dailor. How can I help?
Christopher is this supposed to make sense?
@@DrumeoOfficial bruh, i thought that i was the only one who found you identical to brann lmao
Tomas Haake is laughing at this polyrhythmically
@@amullan88 😂😂😂
Mine is Alex Bent's fill in 5:31 of "The Sin and The Sentence". It just feels so simple and yet so powerful for me
Hi Jared - great video - as usual. Re: the roto-toms on your right - what brand are they please? (They don't appear to be Remo.) Also, what are the head diameters of those? I'm guessing 8" and 10'". Thanks!
This video is not just a great lesson but this is genuinely extremely hilarious as well!
Roto Toms are awesome. I have coated Ambassadors on mine vs the usual clear CS.
I've love the sound of Toto toms
Thanks Jared. Great lesson. If I could play what you call an abomination even half as good as you I would doing good. It's a joy to watch you play and I always learn something new. Thanks again.
Some people: umm umm, so etc
Jared : swallow gulp swallow gulp every 5 or 10 secs
Me lol
Jared I love the sound of your drums
I can't really use the sticks so fast yet
Alot of people with recommend rudiments to try, which help but just practicing Single strokes or double strokes will work eventually if you're less interested in technical learning. if you don't have much time pick up pencils or pens and just wiggle em'
I am a true amateur, which means that my number of fills are very limited. I probably only have maybe 5 fills that I can really trust or rely on without having to worry about making any errors. And yes...my fills are simple as hell. But I can't tell you how much I would love to be able learn some more interesting ones.. like some of the ones you just did. You made me it look so easy, but it is not as easy for me. But I love watching how these young new school pro drummers have taken these fills to another level, when I didn't even think that it was even humanly possible to reach a higher level. But I love how you guys can incorporate y'all's kick drum into your fills. I'm from the old school and drummers in the 70s did not use a lot of todays fills. Today's drummers and today's fills in my opinion are much better than the drummers and fills I grew up watching and listening to. Thank you.
Great video.Xan I ask that when the notes are shown LRRLLRR etc can you put the equivalent for us lefties.
Kind regards
Mick from UK
Lololol...LOVE the opening... Brings back memories!🤣
As it turns out, I was overusing the six stroke roll, made me think 🤭
Another note: It's really cool to see how much Jared Falk has developed the skills of the drumming over the years. I mean, really really cool and awesome. 🙂
6:20
I love that fill.
Those are some beautiful sounding cymbals.
Kit sounds very good.
Kinda mentioned there towards the end of the video, about fitting with the music - it can be a fine line between spicing up, changing up an overused fill that still fits with the music versus over-complicating things. For instance, over-complicating something Ramones-esque might make it sound like Blink 182 or something which, at least for me, defeats the purpose and wouldn't fit. I guess I like to start simple and add/revise (if necessary) up to the point where adding/changing morphs the music into something else not intended.
I play classic rock in a southern rock band, I know what you're saying,we try to play exactly like the song we're playing, but I myself have much respect for Ringo,less is more, keep rocking everyone.
Yo this man changes his drum heads after every time he plays lol
for real tho shout out to evans
Some of these I haven't heard of and I actually wanna use them, haha! Especially the blushda :D
Enjoy! 🙂
Jared, you always play with new cymbals? Or, does your team polish them up for you? They look so sharp and shiny around the kit.
That kit sounds ace!
The vibe of this video was so different, in a good way, very funny but also useful! 😂😂😂
9:20 a present participle or an adjective (adverb if you really stretch it).
That six stroke roll fill is awesome
my own personal view is that the fills may be boring and/or over-used, but if they work for the music, and you can play them in time, then you'll get the job/get the gig :) theyve certainly kept me in business for the last 10+ years ^_^
Sometimes the best fill is none at all.
I am guilty of using the six stroke roll, but to make it a bit different I added an extra llRll to the end of the fill. Making the roll now being RllrrLRllRll. I usually play the last accent on the floor tom but change it up a lot.
Here's my 2 cents. I've been playing drums for about 33 years and have never over used these fills. It's because I either don't like them, or never learned them. The only two I used are Around the world and PBDB. I've used Around the world quite sparse. I've never liked PBDB, so I've used that fill as a protest. 😁
I've used some kind of Herta a few times. Can't say I love them..
I've never used the Blushda, because I can't play it, and don't like it.
The six stroke roll... well I want to be able to use it, and I've really tried to learn it, but I haven't managed to get it down in any usable way.
Jared, I have your Bass Drum Secrets video and you've definitely have improved your on camera and speaking skills. On a side note, you have gotten a tab bit older too. Lol! Great work!
I just think listening to lots of music is the trick here, playing along a huge variety of songs will let you build a nice repertoire of fills that work in more than just one context. Once you're at a point where you feel great about most of your ideas on the spot, you can just change things up and try to just mix everything you've learned. I also think learning to listen to and deconstruct fills and grooves is a really good tool. Not even perfect transcriptions or anything, just being able to understand the feel and packaging it however you like for your needs.
I do take notice of when I overdo some new thing I learned or something though and when performing I'm much more confident keeping it simple, so it also depends whether I'm practicing or doing something more serious. Also, there is a whole school of thought where repetition is a good thing, as half of all psych rock will attest to. Say you got a 7/8 straight groove going with two single strokes breaking up each loop, you got a nice setup for introducing small changes and creating a nice buildup.
And some genres just don't play too well with fills, although nothing is set in stone. Rap/hip-hop often makes fills feel out of place for me, the music tends to be kind of in the background (despite plenty of artists going ham on the technical stuff). Still doesn't stop me from cramming them in there somewhere.
Hahahaha! The first 20 seconds says it all. And well done for not just playing the fills, but playing them with the attitude of someone who over uses them 👍
That intro is just so spot on! :-)
love this channel
cobus loves the herta
and i love it too.
I have been playing drum all my life. Starting at 4 and now at 34.
For some reason I am at a point I can almost play whatever I want as long as I have the kit for.
But I never been able to create sound or be original when I try to improvise.
Do you have any excercise?
His drum kit is huge!!!
Marching drummer here, I don’t know if it’s maybe different in the world of drum set, but in the marching world a Herta is actually the reverse of how it’s described in this video. That is to say, two notes followed by two notes of half the value. Most commonly it’s used as a check pattern for practicing paradiddlediddles, and most commonly written as two sixteenth note triplets followed by two eighth note triplets.
I have got the opposite side. I hardly repeat any vocabulary. But that's got problems.
Anyways, this video is I was waiting for a long time. Thanks Sir Jared . 🙂
How do i add the kick into the six stroke roll? pretty please? :D what is the sticking?
The 6th one could be that fill that Carmine Appice does - I don't know the name but he used it through-out the drum clinic I went to. If I could play it half as good as him I would totally overuse it as well. Bobby Rondinelli called it the Broccoli Rab. My drum teacher and I call it Botcha-la-gooop.
So I really want to get back into drumming and I only have drumsticks really what can I do to improve and become a decent player. I love these videos but i don’t know how to replicate them at home
Hahaha, those first 20 seconds are epic. Guilty as charged here!!!
best manner to break the mold is to play rudiments with group 4 or 2 stickings in some sort of 3 timing or rudiments of three sickings in 4 timing etc , keeping the accents or flams in place .. never fails to sound interesting
The blushda is one of my favorite licks.Thanks for bringing it up, Jared!
As a side note, if anyone wants to hear some brilliant applications of the blushda, watch pretty much any performance by Gavin Harrison. This live performance of Futile has one of my favorite uses of it (as well as some amazing hertas on the bass drum): ua-cam.com/video/QvYLHG86Iwo/v-deo.html
Awesome vid ..
I thought your six stroke roll and Blushda were great! The bit where the herta fell over was hilarious too.
Woah once lockdowns over in india I would wish to have a tour of ur studio ❤️
The groups of four fill is one of the first fills, maybe *the* first fill, you learn as a beginner, so yes, I played that when I was a beginner. As far as I can remember, I only played it when practicing, though; it was so common and I didn't want to play it (too much) and sound like everybody else. As for the Pat Boone Debby Boone fill, never in my life!
Jesus those toms sound good!
I finally know how to call some of the things I constantly do on the drums :D
no "bucket o fish"? LOL. Good vid, Jared.
Video sums up pretty much all the fills I use and am capable of doing, guess I should go back to my fusty basement with my older kit and practice some more like I used to do every day back in the day
I usually have the standard roll down the toms and the herta fill as my go-to....I probably overuse the hell out of them but, hey if it works it works, right?
The herta.Used for the song bleed by meshuggah
Ok I don't know about all of these fills😆, but this video just taught me new fills and how it should be played