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After many years of searching, what "awakened [my heart] to Christ" was Holy Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and our Blessed Mother.
You are absolutely right ❤
I love Ralph Martin, but I love Sacred Tradition more. God save us all
I did too, I never heard anything like this out of his mouth. This exposed him for sure.
I genuinely believe he's a good person, but I think the Charismatic renewal movement is misguided. 😮
Ralph Martin is a MODERNIST, he is of good will, Modernists none the less folks. Modernism infects everything and corrupts perennial Catholic Orthodoxy.
@@SmithsnMoz Yes! I know so many who were caught up back when it was a thing. Been to a couple of 'prayer groups' myself and got creeped out every time. But we know that God writes straight with crooked lines and people get blessed in spite of the mumbo jumbo not because of it, and many of these people have since moved out of it into Orthodoxy.
and Kennedy- you got throw in a 'Papaya' or two (or 10) with the 'boom-chacka-lacka'
@@SmithsnMoz I agree
I will trust Fr. Ripperger over Ralph
For further explanation of some of the points Kennedy raised as well as explanations of the workings of the Holy Spirit, Google:
The True Pentecost ~ Fr Ripperger
For further explanation of some of the points that Kennedy raised, Google:
The True Pentecost ~ Fr Ripperger
I trust the hobo under the overpass over the charismatics
@EasternChristian333how is Father Ripperger problematic?
@EasternChristian333 - how so with Fr. Ripperger
I always sensed something was wrong with that movement. Thanks Kennedy for the explanation!!!
20 % of catholics are "rotten from root to fruit" ? Can we "tar" 20% of catholics "with the same brush". Many catholics who advocate for the charisma do not for Medjugorje. Many love the traditiional mass. Many never read the Cross and Switchblade. Many pray the rosary and go to mass every day. The charism gifts existed in the catholic Church long before protestantism. They orig8nate in the Catholic Church. You get corrupt people in every large people group. Even one of the apostles got corrupted. What's wrong with believing in the marvellous power and mysterious activities of the Holy Spirit? Shouldn't we serk to distinguish counterfeit gifts from the chatisms and give leadership and guidance for the gifts rather than reject them? Openess to all the gifts of the Holy Spirit cannot be a bad thing in itself. In some ways we need to go beyond the right brained, beyond the rational in our relationship with God. So many who advocate for the gifts of the Holy Spirit are great workers in their parishes. Let's guide people rather than put out the "fire" which the Hily Spirit is symbolised by. Let's not "throw out the baby with the dirty bath The Carhilic Church simply needs to offer leadership and guidance to those open to the gifts not put out the "fire".
So we should all go by your feelings? Funny how the serial slanderer of faithful Catholics, Kennedy Hall, liked your reply with a heart. He continually condemns people whom the Lord has touched in the Renewal as having 'mania' and being 'not of God' and of being 'heretics', yet he especially likes your comment about how you determine truth by your feelings. It shows how hypocritical this Pharisee truly is.
Yes I use my senses, or should I say informed rational thinking> Please try to do the same. @@MillionthUsername
@@NancyB-wx8fv Tell us about your "informed rational thinking" regarding Kennedy's lies and slanders and blasphemies. Tell us how you've "sensed" that "something was wrong" with the gifts of the Holy Spirit and anyone who dares to cross you and Lord Kennedy in receiving such gifts from the Lord without your express permission or approval. Let's get it all out there. Don't you want to show how "rational" your "thinking" is? Go for it!
Jesus Christ is king 👑✝️🙏
Renewal ministry helped me get here, but as I learned my faith in greater depth, I turned them off.
100% ^
An Evangelical non-denominational heretic led me to believe that Jesus Christ is the only bridge to God, which led me to the CR, which finally led me to the Magisterial Church. Just like demons sometimes tell the truth, heretics do also.
A similar Novus Ordo, Vatican 2 organization which Mary Healy has been involved with introduced me to the Catholic faith, but once I found tradition, I looked to traditional sources to continue learning and following the faith. That so-called "Catholic" organization later acted in a very un-Christlike manner, proving to me that, without a doubt, the Vatican 2 Novus Ordo religion isn't Catholic. However subtly, it is quite simply evil.
This explains why my friends who continue devotion toward this movement, will likely never come to the Latin Mass. Because this whole movement basis it’s shamalamadingdongs to V2.
@@ajyyoung3263 It's not based on VII, but a sovereign act of God to pour out the Holy Spirit in a time when we desperately need Him.
And please stop mocking the Holy Spirit and His gifts.
These people are DANGEROUS. I speak as a 'survivor'.
I am a Christian because the Lord touched me at a healing mass in 1983 and revealed His love to me. Then He filled me with His Holy Spirit at a prayer meeting and I spoke in tongues. The only thing "dangerous" about it is that you might come across hypocrites decades later who call you the devil.
@@MillionthUsername "charismatic" movement is Satanism
that gibberish is Satanic in all cases in which there is supernatural cause of that gibberish
Satanists also have gibberish, so do voodoo witch doctors, pagans had it also so that gibberish is demonic for sure
Thank you brother for saying the truth! Thank you for trusting in God! I'm with you 100%! Blessed be God forever! ✝️🙏👍💐
I watched a few minutes of it but then couldn't take anymore. I felt so deeply sad for them because the level of deception they are under is far worse than I originally thought.
Ah Kennedy. My mother dragged six of us kids and Dad to Notre Dame Campus in South Bend IN the summer of 1977(76?) for a week of Charismatic Renewal. My mother had gone to Dusquesne in the 60's so anything out of her alma mater was fine. She was new to this whole thing and by default, so were we. Keynote speakers included the couple from Pittsburgh (iir), Fr. Scanlan from Stubenville and a young guy named Ralph Martin who had just heard an interior locution type directive from God while he was in Rome.
We kids were ages 13 through age 3 and we thought the whole week on campus was the craziest thing we'd ever seen. But here's what I'll say: the 70's were a very rocky time for many many Catholics. 1970 brougt Novus Ordo world wide. 1973 Roe v Wade became law. In 1975, our neighbor's son never came home from Vietnam POW/MIA. In 1976, Catholic Charities was bringing in vietnamese orphans from Saigon to Camp Pendleton who needed a home. (We took in four...in a house of 8 already.) Most families lived on one income etc etc.
Please hear me when I say that there were good, decent, Catholic Americans ** looking for guidance: some pastoral, educated, well-oriented, healthy, ethical direction from this new Catholic Church which had just abolished and swept out the door all of its previous rituals from 1500 years only 6 years before.**
Our parents and their friends were not trained in Pastoral Theology or Scripture, or the Apologetics or Canon Law... They were just 25, 35, 45 year old moms and dads who had - at best -- a Catholic High school education, some college under their belt, strong morals, some knowledge of the Old Church tradition. They were struggling to define what this "open window" to the "New Church" even meant. We were kids; we just followed their lead.
Also, they were trying to raise young kids, families of six, eight, ten, 12 children (and more!) in our Catholic enclave outside of Cleveland. Some older sons and daughters were estranged quickly; in a very lenient and loose society and were lost to drugs, alcohol, worse fates and -- the CATHOLIC CHURCH was NOWHERE to be found. Oh, and interest rates for homes were 15% and gas was sky-high and being rationed. So can you imagine raising kids in that era?
In 2024 I can now see/understand what Bugnione and the masons were doing in the vatican in 1963. Only Archbp Le Fevre was watching out for the sheep. Praise be to Jesus.
Back then news from Rome traveled to US only when a Pope died. So we didn't know what Rome was doing. We took our leadership from American bishops (who were undergoing their own upheaval at the time.) We assumed the consecrated men and women knew what they were doing.
It was totally a ripe time for Satan to slither into the church and cause chaos which would make the Apostles cringe. Some older folks said the CR was not good -- and as a teen I heard that too. Personally, the Sisters of St Joseph had laid a good foundation in my classmates and I. I was never comfortable with the CR -- to me it was melodramatic and weird. Not unlike what protestant TV ministers do today.
But as a Catholic, it was like we were all waiting for Pope Paul 6 to say "Here. This is the New Way for the New Church." But he never did. So other people with less educated intentions stepped in. A big strong link was made between The Acts of the Apostles and the Charismatic Renewal being two sides of the same coin. IE, The CR took up where the Apostles left off-- which is why there was so much emphasis on going out to evangelize, laying on of hands, gifts of the Spirit, etc.
I can't count how many of my parents friends took the scriptures literally : they were selling their homes, moving into form small Christian communities, to share all belongings, raise their kids with other families and preach the good news to their neighbors. It was a wild time.
The Counterculture of course was building helter skelter communes and sharing land on farms to promote purple haze Jimmy Hendrix and free love.
In was a clear response to the counterculture: Catholics went off to build similar communities but centered on Christ.
Small church communities we know of today are nothing like they were then. These intentional living spaces popped up all over -- all variations of hippy, dippy, serious, studious, crunchy, vegan, recycling, catholic-light communities as well as urban, elderly, mixed single and couples communities, ethnic communities and the rest. Under very little guidance, we were sheep without a shepherd. Lay people were "supposed" to take a bigger role in the Church, but no cardinal gave directions how to do that.
So context here is key. I want younger generations understand there was little to no direction from Rome. Or the USCCB. There were ideas and meetings and newsletters and prayer groups. And I honestly think Ralph Martin was trying to do the right thing. He was guided by Fr Scanlon, and the Fransiscans were approving his work, so how could he not know? He was a relatively new convert too.
I'm glad Father John Hardon SJ and others began his mission around the same time to clarify and teach catechetical formation. And in 1979, the great Archbp Fulton Sheen, pioneer of media outreach and faithful Son of the Church
And if you remember nothing else, remember: there was no good formation being taught at the time in seminaries, in schools or in the pews.
Just try to not judge the entire movement for its eccentricities. It's not like we all woke up and decided to play tamborines for Jesus. We saw what was happening to the American Culture. And we tried to create a counter balance to it. My gramdmother still attended Mass with her missal and black veil. We had no disrespect for her or other elders. We just didn't know any better💿🕯️
I attend TLM when I can and I'm praying for my children to do the same. Thank God for Bp LeFevre who stood his ground.
“Shamalama ding-dong!” 😂 PERFECT TRANSLATION! 😂
The interpretation of false tongues is- “I need an exorcism”
@@kimberHD45 So when Catholics pray for the Holy Spirit, the Lord gives them a demon? How do you claim to 'know' this? That doesn't sound like good theology; it sounds slanderous and blasphemous.
Please don't mock the Holy Spirit, nor His gifts, nor Catholic teaching, nor your fellow Catholics who love the Lord.
@@MillionthUsername That’s a crazy accusation there, I’m not mocking the Holy Spirit.
Do you really think chanting nonsensical phrases “papaya papaya papaya papaya….”, in direct imitation of Protestants, is invoking the Holy Spirit?
They were inspired by Protestants, and Protestants reject the Holy Spirit, and that’s facts.
I can't help but laugh every time Kennedy says "papaya papaya papaya."
Ralph Martin and that lady are treading in dangerous waters.
Of course the going to defend against it's legitimacy, lest they be considered fools, and all who have followed along. Oh and what about the donations and money? Salaries to those employed by them? If they admit their wrongs, the whole thing comes crashing down like a house of cards! This goes way deep! It needs to crash though, there are literal lives at stake!!! A perfect example of how one sin opens the door to the next, and the next, and next, and if too late, the depths of hell!!! May God have mercy on their souls!
@@rangefinderz5135 why? Because of seeking salvation, because of repentance, because of God's forgiveness, because of his mercy, because we are also to forgive like Him! I don't think you realize how many protestant ministries and charasmatic catholics are out there speaking their pseudo gifts!
How so?
@@julybutterfly What are you even talking about? You sound like a nut. What wrongs? Don't drink the Kennedy Kool-Aid.
@@rangefinderz5135 Ex-communicated? For what? They are Catholics! Kennedy is NOT a Catholic. He is OUTSIDE the Church and apparently proud of it. He refuses to name his pastor and bishop because he doesn't want to be called out on his BS. He has no authority in the Church. This is why his rants are absurd and meaningless. Don't be fooled.
As Fr. W recently said...when an honest man learns he is mistaken he will either cease to be mistaken or he will cease to be honest. So sad that these baptized Catholics choose to persist in their error.
Great video Mr. Hall.
You are describing Kennedy Hall as well as all the duped 'Catholics' who follow him and support his spiritual warfare against the Holy Spirit and faithful Catholics. How can you possibly claim that this man is 'honest' when he is falsely accusing people of 'heresy' literally every other minute for 8 hours?
@@MillionthUsername
Please read the Sanctifier by Archbishop Luis Martinez. It is a beautiful book on the work of the Holy Spirit in the soul. "With divine enthusiasm he comes to the soul-the soul, breath of the Most High, spiritual light that can merge with uncreated Light, exquisite essence that can be transformed into Jesus reproducing the eternal ideal." Forgive my ignorance but I just don't see the modern Catholic Charismatic movement seems to be on external signs not interior movements. Grace and peace to you and yours.
@@trobairitz4773 Read the commandment: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Read up on Church teaching regarding lying in all its various forms. Even detraction, though it be true, is a sin.
What we have here, and what you personally praised Kennedy for, is hours and hours of the most wickedly false accusations of numerous heresies, of being "diabolical" and "demonic" and being tainted with the sins of people utterly removed from us, of being in a "cult" and "mindless," in a "mania" of practicing false gifts and speaking 'gibberish', etc.
@@MillionthUsername Yes like Kennedy
@@trobairitz4773 "With divine enthusiasm he comes to the soul-the soul, breath of the Most High, spiritual light that can merge with uncreated Light, exquisite essence that can be transformed into Jesus reproducing the eternal ideal."
If I said that, it's guaranteed you hypocrites would say I had a demon and you would accuse me of 15 heresies. I have given my testimony, and it is to no effect because you people operate on the worst sort of prejudice AGAINST the Holy Spirit acting in the soul of a believer. You presume that He doesn't, but that Satan does to imitate God perfectly. It's sickening. The very opposite of faith. It's a fear-based pseudo-religion and also a haughty, feelings-based false doctrine on your part that God either can't or won't act in the soul without your express permission and/or approval - as if God were your pet.
"Forgive my ignorance but I just don't see the modern Catholic Charismatic movement seems to be on external signs not interior movements."
Well, there you go. It's all about your feelings, isn't it? Whoever you don't like is obviously on about external signs only and not about interior movements and genuine conversion. You are perfectly attuned to God while everyone else is obviously a child drawn to shining objects and other distractions. You are mature while everyone else is immature. You are orthodox while everyone else is heterodox and guilty of every 'heresy' that Kennedy Hall can spit out in 8 hours of ranting.
"Grace and peace to you and yours."
Do you always give a fake blessing after you curse people?
Thank you for your videos, Kennedy Hall. I was one of the ones damaged by a retreat at my parish by these people. They hid that it was charismatic. I thought I was going to a Holy Spirit retreat, but instead I got a devil. I had almost no knowledge of charismatics going into it. My priest and his director of evangelization started performing a ceremony called baptism of the Holy Spirit, which I now know is false. They were singing in tongues, and laying hands. With no warning, they began doing exorcisms on three of the attendees. They seemed to know things about these people that they would have no way of knowing. My priest said he saw a dragon at one point. I had imagined a retreat of prayer, group discussions, and maybe some fun games. This was shocking. They told us afterwards to be looking for the Holy Spirit at night. Black snakes coming towards me, feeling birds flying up and down inside my legs, feeling like pieces of my soul were being taken out were some of the horrors I had that night. Every time I tried to fall asleep, my right leg would inexplicably kick out to wake me up. I was terrified and it became clear that this wasn’t the Holy Spirit. A couple days after the retreat, I glanced in the mirror a couple of times, and my eyes looked evil. I decided to break all ties with this group. I had been promised to get an evangelization committee at the parish if I attended this retreat, because I was deeply concerned about the number of Catholics who have left the faith. After this horrible experience, I decided it wasn’t worth it. My idea of evangelization and the priest’s and director’s weren’t even in the same galaxy. I was wanting to do rosaries, etc. It took me two years to gather information about what happened to me, because some in the parish blamed my outcome on me. I recently left bad reviews for Encounter Ministries, and they said they had nothing to do with it. They showed us their videos, and the entire retreat is based on their materials. My priest and the director are on their website as instructors. They say that I’m the only one saying anything, and they have not shown one ounce of remorse. They told me that I probably had unhealed trauma that caused it, even though I felt fine going into the retreat. They have trained other women in my parish, and have given them a two-year degree. They go around out town laying hands on fast food drive through workers. There is so much more I could say, but this is already a long comment. The gist of it is that I went to a charismatic retreat that was misrepresented as something else, got a devil, and then they blamed it on me. Nice group. Not.
You repeatedly refer to your parish in the present tense. Why havent you left there???
@@stacycharrette8909 I help take care of my elderly aunts and parents who are lifelong members. One of them can barely walk, and I drive them to church. I also think that sometimes we have to stay and fight instead of running.
Wow!! I’m so sorry that happened
write down your experiences and keep a log of what goes on, one day it may be of use.
Sounds like you were attacked by demons but didn't know what to do about it. Why are you blaming the people who held the retreat? What you should do if that happens is pray, and take authority over them and order them to leave. If it doesn't work, then get some help. But don't blame the people trying to help you.
Doctrine does not change
I think ordinary doctrine can develop but dogma can't.
To paraphrase the late Fr. Gruener, “A dogma is a dogma because the truth does not change.”
What do you think of Kennedy's new fake 'Catholic' doctrines that you can't have any contact with Protestants or else you are tainted for life? Or what about his new fake 'Catholic' doctrine that the Council of Trent tells us we cannot say, "I was baptized in the Spirit" or "I was given the gift of tongues." I had never heard of that doctrine before even though I have read the Council of Trent. Kennedy is truly a theological innovator, is he not?
He also seems to be innovating on the moral front, making it acceptable and easy for people to violate the law of love that Jesus gave His disciples. He seems to think that it's okay for him to lie about, demean, demonize, and slander others openly in order to defend his FEELING that all charismatics are evil and infested with evil spirits and that "100% of the gift of tongues today is fake." By the way, the latter is also a novel doctrine in Catholicism. How did this guy download this new doctrine from Heaven?
@@paulkiernan3256 if doctrine is organic
Who said that doctrine changes?
1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence."
I really hope you have good intentions posting this in the right context. Many times I have seen men maliciously using this scripture out of context to be a total true misogynist towards women. Be honest, it's not just a woman I see here speaking heresies in these clips. Only God knows what's really in your heart and I'll leave it to Him.
@@sarahlynn7894a woman shouldn’t be teaching theology whether you like hearing that or not. Of course I’m sure you know better than St Paul who was speaking by the authority of Christ and the Holy Ghost telling him what to say. St Paul, that misogynist. Are you for real?
As a woman, I agree with St. Paul. A woman can only teach a son who is subject to her authority, and according to her vocation as a wife and mother. She can give counsel to her husband but the spiritual authority is reserved to him.
@heartofjesusdj
"[Apollos] began to speak boldly in the synagogue; but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained the Way of God to him more accurately."
Acts 18:36
St. Paul prohibits women from serving as priests, such as giving homilies. Certainly there are female saints who produced theological writings and are doctors (from the Latin doctrine "to teach") of the Church.
@@carissstewart3211 is she in a teaching position? No, she is not. So it says she was at Mass or in a seminary teaching? No it does not say it and you know that. You’re being intellectually dishonest. Stop twisting Scripture and seeing what you want to see. Stop leading Catholics astray with your rebellious attitude.
Adoptionism is an old heresy...
The Renewal does not teach Adoptionism, nor any other heresy.
We need to let the Holy Spirit to move free with us. It's a insult to call the gifts of the Holy Spirit heresy. If we are open in truth and humbleness to the Holy Spirit as St Paul says, He will give us His Gift to manifest His Glory. May God bless us all in unity with the love of God for God and His gifts. Amen! Allelulia!
I knew of several individuals in this movement that were in mortal sin. To think of these same individuals laying hands on people or praying in tongues is a colossal affron t to the Body of Christ
Kennedy Hall is in mortal sin with his hours and hours of continual lies and slander. Does that bother you at all?
The Council of Trent says that the Lord distributes the charismatic gifts even to the wicked. They are gratuitous and not a reward for specific merit. So we should not expect that, as always, as the Lord said, there will be weeds among the wheat. This does NOT negate the gifts nor the sacraments nor the Church if we have bad members or bad ministers.
The Church long ago condemned the idea that we required perfect ministers in order to receive God's grace. Look up Donatism. So your reasoning is very flawed.
Me too! They would confide in me and when I told them they had to go to confession they laughed at me. Also to many were into the New Age and the lines were blurred. Yoga, crystals and energy healing.
@@francescaderimini4422 What do you think of Kennedy Hall breaking the 8th commandment hundreds of times in an 8-10 hour long rant against God's gifts and God's people? Should he go to confession for these sins? What will happen to him if he doesn't?
I heard Mary Healy talk at a conference some years ago - what she said really just caused me to take a step back. She made me uncomfortable, but couldn't say why as I didn't know enough to understand my hesitation. THAT is the REAL Holy Spirit and my Guardian Angel protecting me.
If you can't articulate what the problem was, then you are just engaging in slander. You wish to sully her reputation but you don't have the guts to produce the goods so you just insinuate that your feelings represent the Holy Spirit and your guardian angel "protecting" you from what you can't even say. This sort of hysteria is indeed the fruit of listening to and giving credence to such an anti-Catholic bigot as Kennedy Hall.
Same with Ralph Martin; something about him is not right.
Yes me too
Your feelings are not likely the Holy Spirit talking to you, especially when you can't articulate anything wrong with what she said. That is not how discernment works. And speaking this out in a public forum is sinful as you seem to be accusing her of something but can't or won't say what. It is wrong to falsely accuse, even with this sort of sideways approach of creating suspicion over nothing. Please edit or delete your post and take this to confession.
@@catherineenglei7172 Again, you can't just falsely accuse people like this.
The head of my Charismatic Catholic Group told me not to read anything by Fr. Ripperger. Too late! Team Fr. Ripperger! I no longer visit the Charismatic group.
I can see why. I would not read anything by him now. He is not trustworthy after that hatchet job he did on the gift of tongues. That exegesis was a joke! Never heard any butcher Scripture like that before, and I've heard every sort of Protestant BS out there.
I would trust the advice of an experienced exorcist in regards to engaging in spiritual battle with the demonic and the potential risks.
@@steveb5331 He's putting out false teaching and leading people away from God in doing so. And people are obviously then using his false teaching as a springboard to unloading all sorts of vile false condemnations upon those who love the Lord and accept His gifts and His presence and His power in their lives. It's a very dangerous game you people are playing.
@@francescaderimini4422 Why doesn't Fr Ripperger publicly repudiate the heterodox Vatican edicts: Fiducia Suplicans and Amoris Latetia edicts. They contradict the HOLY BIBLE and traditional Christian teachings
@@MillionthUsername NovusOrdo RCC still upholds the heterodox Fiducia Suplicans and Amoris Latetia edicts.... They contradict the HOLY BIBLE and traditional Christian teachings.
Paul also doesn't allow a woman to teach a man but she kinda forgot that scriptural exhortation in first Timothy
She’s obviously smarter than St Paul. Geez, St Paul get with the times. lol
Being in my mid 70's, I have lived it all. Pre and post Vatican II with it's many changes that happened when I was in Catholic High School. We were obedient and felt "well this is just the way the Church wants us to do this now" so we did. It wasn't until after I had children that I began to feel a " coldness" in the Church. I even met some other Christians who seemed to be more alive spiritually, I went to Bible studies etc but quickly realized...no this is not the right path. I looked into the Charismatic, but it was also just not right. Then a wonderful priest was assigned to our parish. He obviously felt pulled to begin praying the TLM. I remembered it from my childhood and yet I was pleasantly surprised at the overall effect it had on me. Our priest endured many attacks for the more traditional path he followed. He placed the Tabernacle back in the center of the Altar, he reconstructed the Altar rail and required all to come to the rail. he encouraged reception kneeling and on the tongue but he left is optional at the NO Mass if someone still wanted to receive in their hand and to even stand. It took several years but a new group of parishioners began to come every week to the TLM. Young families, big families, beautiful children. I often become overwhelmed by the reverence. While the NO Mass attendance is dying, the TLM is flourishing. I learned the silence and reverence is like receiving Spiritual gold. We are rich with the knowledge that the Holy Spirit infuses within us. I have learned to listen, discern and pray for clarity. I have learned things like so called speaking in tongues is something we just do not do just because " we " say we can do it. no no that is a serious " mis-sin"... misinformation that is misinterpreted and thus misleads us. The resulting deception can steal our joy and lead us down the wrong spiritual path.
Speaking in tongues and praying in tongues are two different things. Praying in tongues can occur during private time. Speaking needs to be interpreted. Correct me if I’m incorrect.
Fr Ripperger is a Gift in these chaotic papacy times
Fr. Ripperger, from the quotes given in his book, has no idea what he is talking about. He apparently denies the gift of tongues and interpretation and then comes up with some replacement 'gift' of his own imagination which, conveniently for him, does not exist.
You are def wrong. Father Ripperger clearly states there can be a gift of tongues but only for the purpose of communicating between two separate persons with different languages. That makes sense and is an incredible miracle. If you’re speaking without purpose you are probably doing a few things without realizing it.
You are speaking in ancient languages placing curses, and demoralizing the church within, while simultaneously scaring off potential future Catholics. They see you speaking gibberish and immediately lose faith in scripture, tradition or logical purpose. It’s very sad
@@eothedj3853 "there can be a gift of tongues but only for the purpose of communicating between two separate persons with different languages."
No. That's what happened with the Apostles. That's not what was happening in other speaking in tongues events in Acts or Corinthians.
"If you’re speaking without purpose you are probably doing a few things without realizing it."
I'm not speaking without purpose. The gift of tongues is not without purpose.
"You are speaking in ancient languages placing curses, and demoralizing the church within, while simultaneously scaring off potential future Catholics."
Absurdly wicked false accusations.
"They see you speaking gibberish and immediately lose faith in scripture, tradition or logical purpose. It’s very sad"
The only way to come to this conclusion is to ditch Tradition by throwing away Paul's very clear teaching on the gifts. So when you say 'tradition' and 'logic', they are just words that you give to your own personal religion - just like any Protestant. It's very sad.
@@MillionthUsername your assuming the wording is different. Its not. Tongues means languages in Greek, French even Spanish. The purpose of the gift of tongues is to edify others. If you’re not communicating clearly you are not edifying anything other than yourself. Because no one can understand you. That’s how communion is made with humanity. This is what separates us from all other animals. Our ability to communicate with language. That’s why scripture is so powerful and why speaking without coherent language is not scriptural at all. Paul understood many languages. He was speaking in those other languages. As well as others. There are priests with language experts that have identified ancient languages being spoken when hearing tongues. Primarily ancient Sumerian. Angels do not use separate languages. They are spirit they don’t need to. They can communicate to each other without a human intermediary. Again Paul did not speak in gibberish. He literally did the direct opposite of that. Speaking clearly from the heart with the Holy Spirit. So to be frank, you’re actually the Protestant in this. The Catholic faith consists of truth, reason, philosophy and basic purpose. Just understand it doesn’t matter how good you or others feel when you speaking in tongues. The entire purpose of having people speak jibberish is so ppl from the outside look within, and see and hear nothing but chaos with doubt and confusion.
@@eothedj3853 You did not reply specifically to what I already said.
"The purpose of the gift of tongues is to edify others."
According to SACRED SCRIPTURE it is both for the purpose of edifying others AND oneself. If you do not even know this, why are you pontificating on the issue?
"Again Paul did not speak in gibberish."
No one said that he did.
"So to be frank, you’re actually the Protestant in this."
You making false claims about the gift of tongues does not make me a Protestant.
Kennedy ‘speaking in tongues’ on more than one occasion is absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂
He's mocking the Holy Spirit.
2 or 3 days ago, the Catholic Esquire did a good expose video on this very meeting of Ralph, Mary Healy, et all. It is worth a watch on youtube.
Thanks for the info; I'll jump over to youtube now!
Agree. It was excellent.
Highly recommended. The Esquire's comments and objections were pointedly correct and spot on.
I saw that video too. The Catholic Esquire did an excellent job of exposing their comments about Vatican 2 and their poor understanding of real Catholic teachings and doctrine.
Thank you Mr. Hall for teaching these errors. I look forward to reading your new book.
Very informative. Thank you. I was part of the CR for many years. I left it all some years ago and follow only solid Catholic teachings and tradition. Deo gratias!
I greatly appreciate Fr Ripperger so much.
I pray for all who are duped into the CR, that their eyes may be opened to the TRUTH about it and that they will have the fortitude to not participate in it any longer. +Amen😊🙏
So what is the "TRUTH" that you have? The Church has for 2000 years taught that the gifts are authentic. Fr. Ripperger's teaching is new. Never even heard of it before, and it flatly contradicts scriptural teaching on tongues. It seems like he developed this 'teaching' specifically to attack the Renewal. How have the rest of us been "duped"? What are you talking about? Do you buy into Kennedy's lies and slanders? He is the most anti-Catholic bigot I've ever come across because he pretends to be 'traditional' when he is anything but. He's a deceiver of the highest order, trying to keep people from the grace available to them in the Renewal. This is how many Catholics today came to know the Lord in a deep way, and he calls it evil. He is a mocker and a scoffer. How can you not see that? It's as if so many of you people have abandoned basic morality in order to convince yourselves that you are 'traditional' when you are not. Why???
There is no "truth" here. Kennedy does nothing but lie and disparage and mock here. Why would you even say that???
I'm so glad you are uncovering all of this. I was part of the charismatic renewal from age 13-26. I did everything they said and never missed a meeting, womens group, bible study throughout the week. The last several years of being there I saw emotionalusm.control in who would marry. I was extremely hurt being told to be in a relationship for marriage I didn't think I should be in. I finally got brave enough to break that relationship after 5 months of being engaged.to him. Lots more. When I got out I felt dellusioned. When I left, no one of the leadership noticed. I was told by them my faults continually in weekly "headship" meetings throughout my time there. When I was young I was dropped off there by my father to live with my sister and the families she and her son lived with. It was good as a young child but as I matured it was another thing. "The Community" had become my parent. I've had lots to work through over time. I ended up marrying by some matchmaking within the community . That marriage ended in divorce
Your issues with whatever community you were in or with your parents have nothing to do with the graces that God offers us through the Renewal. Human faults and failings exist everywhere. Kennedy Hall has put out hour after hour of lies and false accusations of 'heresy' against people who do not hold such heresies. He makes fun of the gift of tongues and people whom God has blessed with this gift. He mocks the Holy Spirit. Please do not support him in these wicked acts.
Charismania is driven by feelings and emotions. Dangerous!
The Renewal is driven by the Holy Spirit. 'Charismania" is a made up word designed by mockers and scoffers to ridicule the Holy Spirit and His work.
@@MillionthUsername Traditionalists think the are angels and have zero feelings
@@MillionthUsername can't agree with you here. Lived in the so called "renewal" for 20 years. With the scattering of the sheep that occurs after Vatican II, it is simply one of the places where the sheep ran off to and huddling together, found something that "helped". Others wandered off a cliff(God have mercy), others ended up near the cliff,without faith, but did not go over. Truth is, the sheep were scattered, and found themselves huddling together for protection. We are sheep. We all think where we are is better than something else. The real question: how do you know you are right? Its almost impossible. I don't know. What I do know is that martyrs preferred to die than give up their faith. That is a permanent faith, and reflects Christ himself. That is the faith I want to choose to own. I go back to their prayers and language. Once I began digging in, "new" stuff faded away, worthless. The Latin is a steep mountain to climb. But it seems God has rewarded me with joy and peace, Which i did nor receive from the renewal. Thats how I know. These are trying times.
@@MillionthUsername Movement is driven by Satan and it is from Satan. If Holy Inquisition were to investigate that "charismatic" movement today it would be condemned for sure. Also if that movement appeared in 13th century, it is very possible that crusades would be called against that awful, satantic and heretical movement. Your's defending of "charismatic" movement does not change objective fact and reality that "charismatic" movement is from Satan. No matter how much you defend it: Contra Factum non est argumentum- Against the fact there is no argument
facts are facts
Too many uncatechised Catholics trust in their own perception of who is "nice" or
"holy".
The Acts of the Apostles includes a story about exorcists attempting to cast out demons without authority.
"We know Jesus and we know Paul. But who are you?"
Because they were Jews, not Christians.
@@MillionthUsername
Almost all Christians at that time were Jewish. Nonetheless, these Jews invoked the Name of Jesus who Paul preaches. True, they weren't members of the Church, but then, neither are Protestant heretics.
I went to a charismatic Mass in Spokane Washington in about 2006 or so. I went up for prayer and this lady, or ladies prayed over me and afterwards I was so mad and mortified, I would never-EVER - attend one again. I can’t remember exactly the details I was so shocked by this encounter.
Whenever you hear someone saying that: they needed more, so they needed to seek out something other than what the Church has handed on to us already…they’ve already gone off the rails.
What they sought out is what we as Catholics are supposed to seek out. Your brand new teaching that the Holy Spirit does not come to us, fill us, and give us charisms, violates both Scripture and Tradition. You are in effect creating your own personal religion.
@@MillionthUsername yes, The Holy Catholic Church knew nothing until you came along with your new doctrine. What’s your holy book called: the cross and the switchblade, right? Or was it until Ralph and Mary were born, the Catholic Church was in darkness. Do you know how ridiculous you sound?
@@heartofjesusdj
Don't feed the troll, inore him.
@@MillionthUsername "You are in effect creating your own personal religion"... And you still don't see the irony of defending an experience you can't prove is real, much less of God, and only started in 1967.
@@dterry95 well "charismatic movement" is from Satan indeed, it is heretical movement.
Christ was baptized out of love for us. Example of what we are to do to join as one in His Church. He was already filled with the Holy Ghost as He is Divine as well as human.
If you believe in the Trinity, then all three, Father, Son AND Holy Ghost were together from the beginning ......so therefore Jesus was not baptized to receive the Holy Spirit. How could Catholics be so deceived.
Christ’s Baptism sanctified the waters of Baptism, and instituted the sacrament of Baptism, just like Jesus would institute all the sacraments before His death.
@@sarihendershot3728 That's exactly what @kerry897 said.
"He was already filled with the Holy Ghost as He is Divine as well as human."
Clearly, women preachers are not in God's plan
But, but, doctrine is evolving according to the lady preacher. 😂
I am starting to agree…. And I’m a woman.
Deeply sexist and moronic comment
@@theperegrinecatholic2892 She didn't say that. Why are you lying?
Plenty of women preachers on Kennedy's anti-Catholic videos spewing nonsense all over the place. That's part of his schtick, isn't it? There's a scripture about heretics worming their way into homes and making captives out of silly women. I think Paul said that, right?
It's a scandal that any woman teaches priests, but especially this one.
My goodness, you must hate Catherine of Sienna ( Doctor of the Church) and all the other great Catholic women who have been declared. ( and by the CHurch) as Doctors of the church and where so many priests read, listen and promote their Greta works. Theresa Avila, Therese Lisieux and our own Catherine Of Sienna.
In Kennedy's last podcast on this, he pointed out that this lady was clearly saying " papaya, papaya cookoo", whilst speaking in tongues.
I would love to hear her explanation on what that is supposed to mean.😂
I agree . The charismatic movement is problematic . It’s too open for a diabolical invite for lack of better word . One can grow to begin they themselves thinking the power of the Holy Spirit and “ harness “ it . Which is within narcissism ideals and can over reach .
Orthodox , Tradition , The Latin Rite , the Magesterial teachings of centuries is our compass not speaking in utterance of nonsense
So is the prideful, angry delivery of this awful presenter. How OWN axe to grind.
Mocking the Holy Spirit and His gifts is not "too open for a diabolical invite"? You seem to have things completely backwards. This is what comes from listening to a diabolical liar and slanderer who mocks God and His gifts.
My wife, who is a “charismatic” Catholic watch RM’s video and didn’t want to tell me about it, she was so disturbed by it. She finally did and we watched it together. We were both very disturbed. Yes, quite a bit of heresy; Jesus was baptized in the Holy Spirit and at one point Healy suggested that through the baptism in the Holy Spirit we participate in the essence of God. My wife and I both have respect for Dr. Martin and Dr. Healy, but that respect has waned significantly.
Much to the pleasure of Kennedy Hall.
What are you talking about? What heresy? Participating in the divine nature is the meaning of becoming a Christian!
I will add a very bothersome remark of Mary Healey on the Holy Eucharist. She quotes a reading where Jesus says about the Jewish Priests: be not like to them that make outward gesture signs. She makes reference to receiving the Holy Eucharist on the tongue and kneeling as outward signs. She discounts all the other Bible readings where 'Every knee shall bend for our Lord'. She may not believe in the Fatima Angel that fell prostrate at the Holy Eucharist in front of the 3 Shepherd children.
"mind-numbing stupid" hahaha "let's play a game... Is Mary Healy telling the truth?" "Boom shakalaka... Speaking in tongues."I get a kick out of this show! Honestly, I always learn a lot, thank you Kennedy! God bless you and your work!
He's is mocking the Holy Spirit and His gifts, and you are joining him in that. He is also slandering Mary Healy and Ralph Martin. Slander is a sin against the 8th commandment.
As an ex- Catholic Charismatic person myself I am now in Total agreement with your argument about the Catholic charismatic revolution.
I cannot even begin to express how needed this "unpacking of the gift tongues" is. All this Papaya nonsense has been allowed to run rampant for decades now. Thank you for your thorough research and explanations. Amazing work!!!
So you support him lying and slandering and demonizing people?
These anti-Catholic videos you are imbibing are just lies and slander and ignorance. The gift of tongues is NOT 'nonsense' but a wonderful and powerful gift of God.
His 'thorough research' consists of using google to look up every heresy ever named and then attributing such heresies to people who do not hold them. This is the most evil thing I've come across ever from a supposed 'Catholic'.
How is falsely accusing faithful Catholics "amazing work"???
@@MillionthUsername the gift of tongues IS nonsense. This is as simple as it being lost in translation. The charismatics and protestants should learn to speak latin or italian first. Simple question: Che lingua parli? That's your proof. The gift of "tongues" is a blasphemous joke absolutely covered and practiced in sin! I pray God will relieve you from your conditioning and brainwashing.
I'm familiar with the cursillo movement and I don't recall anything that had to do with advocating speaking in tongues. Yes it is a weekend in wich you retreat to learn about the Good news and God the father love for us thru His Son Jesus and help to illuminate and awake the conscience to s personal encounter with our Lord and encouraged people to remain faithful by attending weekly meetings and live the commitments of our baptism.
My experience also from the past. Maybe it has changed. I don’t know.
You're spot on, what a time is this! Thanks for your courageous way of speaking truth.
By sending money to him you are joining in his sin. Please take this to confession and repent.
And David DANCED before the Lord! He DANCED! Joy-filled enthusiasm in The Holy Spirit, NOT WILD, MOCKING NOISE, adds to a Catholic’s joy in The Most Blessed Trinity!! Any movement, if it LEADS us to REVERENCE and TRUTH, also leads us to The Cross. When conferences, retreats, ... do go overboard, as demons will promote, we use a discerning gift of The Holy Spirit given at Baptism; WITH Truth to guide us. And one GREAT way to abide in the narrow path is to seek reconciliation CONSTANTLY. Yes, sadly, Protestantism has consumed many. JMJ
@1:13:36 - He seems to be quoting Ripperger. Kennedy says, "Therefore St. Paul is not actually encouraging people to seek after the gifts in the sense of praying for and trying to gain them for themselves since these are not subject to the will of the creature but are gratuitous..."
We've already seen how Paul does indeed say be zealous for the gifts, especially prophecy, which is a charismatic gift. Asking for things from God does not mean the things we ask for are "subject to the will of the creature," so this makes no sense. When we ask God we are not demanding of Him. We ask because He told us to. The gifts are needed for ministry and God wants to give them. That's why they exist.
All graces are gratuitous. That doesn't mean you can't ask for graces. Is he saying we can ask for literally ANYTHING in life EXCEPT spiritual gifts? That would be an odd precept, would it not? I can ask that my Aunt be converted, that my car start, that it rain on Tuesday, but not for God to pour out charisms which can help build up the Church? Well, if that's the case, why pray for anything? Just wait until God decides to do something. Is that really a Catholic stance on prayer? Sounds more like Quietism to me.
Well done! Ave Maria
How can you say "well done" to someone who continually lies about people and disparages them? He also mocks the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Thank the Lord for Catholics that are exposing charasmania! I am a convert and I never understood why Pope John Paul endorsed it.
It really is about time, isn't it.
What is "charismania"? Is that your slur against the Holy Spirit for giving the charisms to His people? Or is it a slur against those who receive the gifts and try to honor the Lord in their proper us?
The popes have endorsed it because it's part of Scripture and Tradition.
@@MillionthUsernamewhat popes would endorse an offshoot of Pentecostalism? What written documents or verified quotes from the popes are there? There is nothing Catholic about the Charismatic movement.
@@MillionthUsername so called "popes" of Vatican 2 sect are bunch of heretical, apostate, anathematized antipopes. So once sedevacante always sedevacante
@@MillionthUsername Antipopes of Vatican 2 sect has endorsed "charismatic" movement
Thank you for calling out the Truth and explaining it very well ! ✝️🙏🏻Praise be to God !
He offers no truth here, only continual lies and calumnies. He mocks God and God's people. This is not how Christians are to behave.
The Church is diverse with many spiritualities, rites, traditions, movements, and so on. If the Church approves it then you are safe and it’s always for the building of the Church. Now there always individuals within any groups that are unfaithful, go off the rails, and cause division. I came to Christ through the charismatic movement and now I love the Tridentine Mass, aka TLM.
It isn’t approved as a spirituality by the church. In fact, the spirituality itself has never been approved. Popes have said nice things about the movements, but those popes are modernists
@@MereTradition it is approved. Search it up and don’t take my word.
@@MereTradition "Popes have said nice things about the movements, but those popes are modernists"
So we should ignore the popes and listen to you? What authority do you have in the Church?
Are you even in the Church? Who is your pastor? Who is your bishop?
@@tonytony131 I think you got confused regarding the posts. I didn't respond to you. I did upvote you though.
I responded to Kennedy. I'm asking him what authority he has in the Church since he is issuing anathemas and condemning people as heretics and also presenting unheard of doctrines as 'Catholic'.
@@MillionthUsername sorry you are right. You were not replying to me.
Thanks Kennedy for exposing this
The only thing he has exposed is his insatiable desire to attack the Faith and the faithful. Why are you congratulating him on that?"
Excellent. Love Father Rippenger. My mother left the Church and took us to a Pentecostal Church where this was happening. Terrified me. Long story short. My dad found out said never do that again. I stayed with the Catholic Church. Brother became an agnostic, sister a wiccan. When the charismatic movement comes to my parish, I never participate. I
The Catholic Church has been charismatic since the beginning. The gifts are given by the Holy Spirit to build up the Church. Please read Paul's teaching. He is an Apostle with great authority. Kennedy Hall, and others like him, have NO AUTHORITY IN THE CHURCH WHATSOEVER. Do not follow them.
St Anthony of Padua, St Vincent Ferrar and many others had the gift of tongues. Evangelizing they spoke in their own language and those of other countries understood them in their own language ( hmm Pentecost).
Yes. The other way is just babble so what benefit is it?
@@emmap1159 The gift of tongues is not babble, but something that is given by the Spirit of God. St. Paul says that the one who speaks in tongues speaks to God and utters mysteries in the Spirit.
Paul in 1 Cor 12-14 describes other types of gifts of tongues, one that is for the group and should come with an interpretation (which is essentially a prophecy for the group) and another which is just for the person themselves.
@@MillionthUsername I went to a maranatha group in college. LOTS of pressure to prove through this rare gift that I was recognized by God. Being young I was vulnerable and easily influenced, so the stress manifested in babble, as did others, without interpretation or purpose. However, our mentors gave a nod of approval, and I bought that something real must have transpired. It is a cultish thing that may be more sinister than people realize. You want prophesy? Read the saints.
@@emmap1159 I'm sorry you were pressured into faking it. That's not right.
But there is a genuine gift that comes with the power of the Holy Spirit and bursts forth like a rushing river. It brings peace and joy and comfort that only God can give. It is like a dance in that you and God are both participating in making it happen. You lend your voice and God speaks through you. It's a wonderful thing and ought not be mocked.
I too am recovering from the false church through the Catholic Charismatic movement! Glad my eyes are open. I believe consecration to Our Blessed Mother save me from this movement and led me out.
Your eyes are open to what? This man is a liar. Every other minute for 8 hours in these videos he is lying and calumniating people over and over and over again.
Thank you Kennedy Hall. God bless you all. God help us all to search for the truth only. Viva Cristo Rey as a Hispanic woman I say VIVA CRISTO REY. CHRIST IS KING.
We are all going to be wrong about something to humble all of us. I am definitely not a fan of Dr. Ralph's form.
My hope is that Ralph Martin be spoken to by Fr. Ripperger and that he have the humility to repent and embrace Tradition. God bless~
What should Ralph Martin repent of? Why do you imply that Ralph rejects Tradition when he has been Catholic all his life and has always preached the Faith?
Should Kennedy Hall repent of his lies and blasphemies and calumnies?
@@MillionthUsername Kennedy isn't lying, calumniating or blaspheming. He is following the teachings of the Traditional Church. Ralph Martin supports the Charismatic movement which is not of Our Lord, heretical, and dangerous spiritually. Thus he needs to repent of this and my hope and prayer is that he does:+) Listen to Fr. Ripperger regarding the dangers and heresies involved in the movement. Father cites Church Fathers, Doctors, etc. in describing what the actual charismatic gifts are and what the Church has taught about them since the beginning. God bless~
@@MMC-jp1gl All he has done in this entire series is lie like the devil over and over again with utterly false accusations of heresy. He mocks the Holy Spirit, His gifts, and the faithful who have received them in our times.
Name the heresy that Ralph Martin holds to. You are also slandering him as Kennedy has slandered him. This is sinful behavior. You all are violating the 8th commandment. You have no excuse for it. It is absolutely scandalous and anti-Catholic, as is this false teaching that the gifts either don't exist today or are different than they really are because some people don't like them (which is an absurd claim to make).
Fr. Ripperger has not named any heresies that the CCR teaches because there are none, so that is another lie. Please stop lying and putting words in other people's mouths. Let them speak for themselves.
And Fr. Ripperger does not know what he is talking about in that book that Kennedy is quoting (if he is quoting correctly), as I have explained elsewhere. He is contradicting Scripture in falsely saying that it does not say to eagerly seek the gifts. He is also wrong about tongues as he seemingly says there is only one type. This is not what Paul teaches.
You falsely claim that Kennedy has not calumniated anyone. He calumniated all charismatic Catholics in a personal comment he made in one of the videos saying that we are ALL gnostics. That is obviously false and absurd - a wicked and stupid thing to say, having no merit whatsoever. I am not a gnostic. I am a Catholic. He also falsely accused charismatics of being Protestants, Sabellians, Montanists, on and on. I'd have to re-watch to list them all. I am NONE of those things. My family and friends, the priests I have known are none of those things. That is a wicked lie, a totally false accusation, a sin. The Lord says that all liars will go into the lake of fire. People like Kennedy act wickedly and spew all sorts of evil and others, like you, applaud them and support them and also join in to spew lies and hatred, but you are only condemning yourselves since God is good and He is just. He does not falsely condemn like you people do. You find that out one day. Your evil words and deeds will only come back upon your own heads and I am here to warn you about that and to warn people to not get sucked into this vortex of hate and stupidity that you all are spinning.
@@MMC-jp1gl "Ralph Martin supports the Charismatic movement which is not of Our Lord, heretical, and dangerous spiritually."
This has been refuted over and over again. The CCR has been lauded and approved by all the popes since it started. It operates with the knowledge and permission of the bishops in the dioceses. It has official links with the Church. If there were heresies being taught, someone would know. The CCR has always urged people to submit to the magisterium of the Church, to follow the Catechism, etc.
Who are you to say the movement is "not of our Lord"? Are you omniscient and omnipresent? Do you know the state of every person's soul who has been involved since the beginning? Tell me the state of my soul then. I dare you. Tell me how I am "not of the Lord" or "heretical." Tell me my 'heresies', you all-knowing, all-present godlike creature.
Explain how the gifts are "dangerous spiritually." What does that mean? Since they are part of Catholicism, does that mean that Catholicism is "dangerous spiritually," or is this just a way for you to disparage the Faith and the faithful for some perverted reason of your own?
Lex orandi lex credendi lex vivendi. All you need to know.
As I say, “Pray like a Protestant, believe like a Protestant.”
@@theperegrinecatholic2892 Spot on! I'm using that!
I recall my aunts and cousins raving about how they were filled with the Holy Spirit!? after attending the Cursillo. I also remember the popular catchy Spanish song "De Colores" which if I recall correctly is about how colorful the birds are and diverse in nature God has created (🌈 🤦). I had no idea why or how that could be the mantra after coming from a retreat. Later in my search and desire to revert to my faith, I went to a charismatic healing Mass and witnessed the slaying of the Spirit whereby people were falling back and flopping on the floor. I knew then and there that this was wrong and not Catholic. The gibberish fully cemented my assessment of the Pentecostal wannabe Catholic.
I am a Traditional Catholic and like the cradle Catholic that I am will die as one. I pray for all Catholics to remain faithful to the Mass of the ages. It's the only way to Heaven.
As an after thought, the only floppers of the New Testament were the possessed.
DISCERN!
I know De Colores. My parents(very well-meaning) we’re involved in Cursillo. I grew up with that sort of theology. It really left me jaded and confused because it made no sense of suffering. It was emotion-based and I came away thinking that “if I love God, I prove it by raising my hands and looking charismatic” and chase religious highs.
You could not be more wrong, both in your theology and your commentary.
Going to a healing mass and being touched by God through the priest was the real beginning of my Christian life. God radically changed me in an instant. Your mockery is just as feeble as it is vile and stupid. You can't mock God and not suffer severe consequences for it. God will not be mocked. If you don't cease mocking Him and the faithful, then you will surely pay a very heavy price for it since God hates sin and punishes sin. Please don't let hypocrites and false Catholics who do nothing but lie and falsely judge and falsely condemn lead you to a miserable eternal existence in Hell. They won't be there at your judgment to pat you on the back. Nothing they say or do matters. God will judge you for what you have allowed yourself to become.
@@audoremus Why are you ascribing your own stupid thoughts to others and judging them as if they were you? Nobody teaches the things you people say they teach. It's all in your head. Yes, surely, there are not so great teachers in all areas of the Church, and not so great examples of faith, but this is because man has free will and no gathering of men is perfect. But people like you will use any little problem that is either real or imagined and then blow it up into a complete indictment against everybody - which is irrational. By your own 'logic' since you condemn everyone you ought to condemn yourself. I wonder why you don't.
"I went to a charismatic healing Mass and witnessed the slaying of the Spirit whereby people were falling back and flopping on the floor. I knew then and there that this was wrong and not Catholic."
I went to a healing mass in 1983 and when the priest touched me I felt the power of God come through his hands and into me. I felt the wonderful presence of God inside me and all around me. I felt like I was in Heaven. I experienced a very intense joy and extreme peace that blocked out everything else. I knew that God loved me. I had no care in the world. This was the true beginning of my Christian life. I was instantly changed.
"As an after thought, the only floppers of the New Testament were the possessed. DISCERN!"
This is not a manifestation that God used in the NT era that we know of, but it has happened to the saints. I was just reading, last night in fact (aren't you lucky?), about St. Ephrem asking the Lord to not give him so much of His presence because it was making him feel faint! It was in a chapter of the Sinner's Guide by Louis of Granada, a famous Spanish spiritual writer of the 16th century. That chapter makes mention of other sensible delights mentioned by saints that the Lord gives them. These are no-nos in your world, are they not? You people always say these are from the devil, right? How do you deal with this then? My understanding is that the saints of the 16th century and the popes loved Louis of Granada's writings and endorsed him.
There was a charismatic priest in Newark, NJ back in the 80s that I knew, and I could not get near him without being full of the Spirit to the point of falling on the floor. I had to restrain myself from getting too close. How do you explain that? This happens today to a friend of mine who has a healing ministry. Sometimes his hands get very hot, which is a sign of the healing anointing, and if his brother gets too close at that time he will get faint from the Spirit. He mentioned this to me a few weeks over the phone, from another state, after I recalled the incidents with the priest from the 80s that I happened to recall and relate to him. That priest was so wonderful and so in love with the Lord that just his presence caused the Holy Spirit to manifest in me! These are extraordinary and amazing things. How can you people mock them so?
I appreciate your speaking up, Kennedy, keep up your good ways!
This is enlightening. I hadn't thought of this before, but you've offered something to reconsider, especially after hearing Dr. Healy speak in a morning session of the Congress.
@23:36 - "Just as He had received the Spirit to be Messiah and Lord..." This quote is from the book Catholic Pentecostals. Kennedy says this is a heresy. No, they are just referring to the Spirit descending upon Him as a dove. It was a sign given by God. The baptism as well as the sign of the dove and the voice from Heaven marked the beginning of His public ministry as Messiah. They are not saying Jesus lacked the Holy Spirit, but people, including many preachers both Protestant and Catholic, have pointed out by way of analogy that this event signifies Jesus being empowered for ministry just as He would like to do for us. Jesus had no need of being baptized. John wanted to stop Him, but Jesus insisted saying it was the proper thing to do. It's an example for us, just like the Spirit descending. Because He is God, He already has the Spirit, but yet it does signify a new beginning for Him in His mission. And then the Spirit leads Him out into the desert to fast for 40 days and be tempted by the devil. Preachers use these passages as inspiration for us. I have never heard anyone actually say that Jesus never had the Holy Spirit prior to this, although I think I did hear one time that some TV preacher may have said that and caught flack for it.
These people at Renewal Ministries are not theological neophytes. NONE of them would say they believe what you falsely claim they believe if you would only ask them. So the question is, why won't you ask them?
Here is the passage from Mt 3:16-17:
"So Jesus was baptized, and as he came straight up out of the water, suddenly heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God coming down like a dove and resting upon him. 17 And with that, a voice came from heaven, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
The "coming down...and resting upon Him" is what the authors mean by "received," NOT that He never had the Spirit previously - which would be a contradiction since Jesus is God.
@@rangefinderz5135 Of course I do.
@@rangefinderz5135 I'm not preaching any heresy.
You've asked me three times and this is the third and final time I will answer. Yes, I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth.
For my sanity, I employ a very simple test on most of what I hear coming from the Vatican: does it or did it bear good fruit? I use that same test for the things I see on the web regarding the Catholic Church and Catholic Faith. Does the teaching or reporting bear good fruit. Is it faithful to the Deposit of Faith? Does it agree with what is written in Scripture or has been passed down in Tradition? On that basis alone, while Vatican II may well have been a legitimate council, its fruits aren't all good. Why, when the Blessed Virgin showed Sr. Lucy the vision and gave her the explanatory text, did she insist that the Pope must see and report this no later than 1960? Could it be because Heaven saw the ecumenical council coming and wanted to warn the pope and the faithful to be careful of what would come from it? Could it be that Heaven foresaw the tribulation that the Church would endure as the result of this council? If Vatican II was so good, why are the Churches empty, the seminaries all but shuttered, the amount of sin and error literally dripping from the walls of our churches? If it was so awesome, why the need for a Eucharistic Revival? I know Dr. Martin has spent a good deal of time trying to convince us that Vatican II wasn't the problem, and perhaps it wasn't, but its fruits are grown rotten. What I do see happening now is the small, green shoots of a renewal, but not charismatic; it's tradition coming back small, but strong.
"He gave them AUTHORITY to cast out demons".. There's your clue, "authority". These people have no authority. Satan laughs at them.
They, like Protestants, believe they are the successors of the Apostles. Christ gave authority to the Apostles and their legitimate successors, not to Scripture and not to laity.
@@theperegrinecatholic2892 No, they do not believe they they have the authority of popes or bishops. They are NOT Protestants! You all need to stop this perpetual slander that you engage in daily.
Every Christian has authority over demons. Christians are children of God while demons are fallen angels. All they can do is attack; they can't win. They have already been defeated by Christ, and when we are in Christ we are part of Him, and so the demons are subject to us. "Do not rejoice that the demons are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in Heaven."
Doesn't the bible mention Saint James and Saint John coming to Our Lord and telling him that there's was a group casting out Demons in Jesus Name?? JESUS told them not to stop them , whoever is not against me is for me. .. So this is rather confusing to me?😮
@@MillionthUsernameyou’re wrong again, the church trains ordained priests as exorcists, it’s a process to be trained and become one, the demons tremble at a priest or bishop way more than an ordinary Christian, if any Christian could cast out demons then why would Catholic Church have specially trained priests/exorcists in every diocese?
Take it from me (and just to be clear) saying "schama-lama-ding-dong" while conducting an exorcism does NOT work, in fact, quite the opposite...quite the opposite.
Ate you mocking or offering constructive criticism? 20 % of catholics are "rotten from root to fruit" ? Can we "tar" 20% of catholics "with the same brush". Many catholics who advocate for the charisma do not for Medjugorje. Many love the traditiional mass. Many never read the Cross and Switchblade. Many pray the rosary and go to mass every day. The charism gifts existed in the catholic Church long before protestantism. They orig8nate in the Catholic Church. You get corrupt people in every large people group. Even one of the apostles got corrupted. What's wrong with believing in the marvellous power and mysterious activities of the Holy Spirit? Shouldn't we serk to distinguish counterfeit gifts from the chatisms and give leadership and guidance for the gifts rather than reject them? Openess to all the gifts of the Holy Spirit cannot be a bad thing in itself. In some ways we need to go beyond the right brained, beyond the rational in our relationship with God. So many who advocate for the gifts of the Holy Spirit are great workers in their parishes. Let's guide people rather than put out the "fire" which the Hily Spirit is symbolised by. Let's not "throw out the baby with the dirty bath The Carhilic Church simply needs to offer leadership and guidance to those open to the gifts not put out the "fire".
I am beginning to realize that I need to go to confession for my past involvement in the charismatic renewal. Or I guess I should call it the charismatic heresy.
Thank you for this podcast-so informative. SO NECESSARY. God bless you for your efforts. Will share with many!
It says a lot about Matt Frad that he's had Martin as a guest on his show, as well having Michael Lofton.
It strikes one the points Kennedy makes about magik are truer than not. The key point from demonics like Aleister Crowley was “will to power” and actualisation.
Elements of charismatics sound just like that. Seeking power or hidden knowledge.
Eh, the root of all sin is pride, and the first sin was reaching for knowledge that was unreachable. I'm not sure that it's a singular similarity.
Like Freemasonry
The charismatic gifts are not magic but come from the Holy Spirit and are taught in Sacred Scripture. Calling them magic is actually blasphemy.
@@anzot6903 If the gifts are magic or the sin of pride, why does Scripture say they are given by the Holy Spirit? Try reading the New Testament or the Catechism of the Catholic Church for your doctrine.
@@gracewhite1601 No, the gifts are Catholic doctrine. Nothing to do with Freemasonry.
I do not think that a book by Dorothy and Kevin Ranaghan 60 years ago is an appropriate or fair explanation of what Dr. Martin or Dr. Healy believe either back then or now. I do think you raise some valid points, but they are both respected Catholic theologians in the more conservative wing of the Norvis Ordo Church, and I think they would not agree with the Ranahaghn's words that imply that Jesus needed to "receive the Holy Spirit". I think that the point the Ranaghans were trying to make (albeit poorly) must have been that at the beginning of Christ's ministry, at his baptism in the Jordan, God the Father's voice was heard, and the God the Holy Spirit was seen in the form of the dove, and so we too need to "receive the H.S.". I think they missed the whole Trinitarian point of that part of Scripture, but I doubt very much that Dr. Martin or Dr. Healy would agree with their interpretation. This seems like guilt by association to me. Which, by the way, is exactly what THEY seem to be doing as well--you are not a "sede", and yet they lump you and people like you in with the Diamond Bros.! If you are actually going to write a credible book about the Catholic Charismatic Renewal (which I agree is a needed project) you should get your story straight, and approach it with more charity and humility, I believe. Because, despite the protestant influences in the "renewal" (or even ignorant Catholic influences), people like Ralph Martin are among the few voices within the Catholic Church today calling for repentance, and that is what we can all agree we need the most in this dark time. I'm reminded of the Words of our Lord in last Sunday's Gospel in which some of the Jews accused Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Satan. This is dangerous territory. There can be errors without something being demonic. People under demonic influence do not encourage people to repent of sin. Modernism, that's demonic. Let's focus our attention on that, and, like Michael Matt says, let's unite the clans!
So with you there. This man’s attitude is utterly off putting..
Yes agreed. Very disappointed in the lack of charity here in this video, leaning towards publicly trying to scandalize other faithful Catholics who truly love God. A genuine HUMBLE dialogue with Renewal Ministries in video format would've been much more fruitful, than this cowardly back and forth videos that are currently being made here. Humility and charity greatly needed here. Very heartbreaking to see Catholics in-fighting like this :(
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That may be funny to you now, but it won't be at your judgment. The way you people are absolutely indulging in evil talk and mockery is beyond my comprehension. The only thing I can compare it to is the absolute hatred that anti-Catholic bigots have in their hearts for us.
Please stop mocking.
@@MillionthUsernameno
@@briankFF247 Then you will incur the wrath of God. God will not be mocked.
I watched the Renewal Ministries video and I was very struck at how balanced, life giving and informative it was and how charitably restrained they were regarding your attacks against them. They gave you much more respect than you gave them. Mary Healy is an excellent scripture scholar and I say this as one who reads her periodically in the Magnificat. Ralph Martin's book The Church in Crises shows his in depth knowledge of what has been taking place in the church and the root of the problem. He is a loyal son of the Church but is too humble to get into it with you, not because he is weak but because he stands on solid ground. I am not and have never been part of the charismatic movement but I have listened to Ralph M and Peter Herbeck over the years and they have always lived to serve the church and done a great service to the community in assisting people in growing closer to God through the scriptures. There has been an increasingly judgemental tone coming from some Trad groups that does not make my heart burn within me, and yet, how often I have listened to Ralph and Peter and have been left with great inner peace.
I'm in agreement w you!
Yeah but they're wrong
I am with you there, on every point. The comments on this thread here suit the presenter who comes across as know all, angry and almost spiteful. I’m sad that this man perhaps thinks he represents the CC. What a bad advert.
@@MFTU268 Why are you being so mean and judgemental to Kennedy? You really need to be better than that. Insulting people gets you nowhere.
Amen
Everyone needs to hone their discernment to identify how these personal revelations in these pop spirit books and see they are deluded by emotion and not double checking with established deposit of the faith. These are the people that set out on a trip convinced they know where their going without referring to a map, and end up lost in a dangerous place. They are also people who think they can work on their car without referring to a certified mechanic, or even the manufacturers technical manual. Then go ahead, take the car engine apart, rebuild the engine, and discover the parts all didn’t get put back where they belong. Then they try to operate the engine, and it falls apart before their eyes.
Not sure what you are talking about here. The CCR is well grounded in the Catholic Faith, having many many priests and bishops and even cardinals involved for many decades. Instruction is given on baptism in the Spirit and the gifts in the Life in the Spirit seminar, but beyond this people are encouraged to follow the Church in everything.
Thank you for this expose. I was always uncomfortable with the idea of Catholic Pentecostals (seems contradictory and hypocritical). I appreciate that you have clarified and supported my conclusions about this heretical sect.
It's not an expose - except of Kennedy and his followers and their bizarre hateful false religion of anti-Catholic bigotry. Your feelings don't matter, by the way. Christ did not establish the Catholic religion on feelings. The charisms are part of the patrimony of the Church, so if you wish to disparage them then find another religion. We, as Catholics, must accept all that the Church holds out for belief. If you reject the gifts and mock those who don't, then you are the one who is in a 'sect'. If you have chosen to follow this man over the Church, that's your business, but don't try to seduce others or your punishment will be even greater than you can imagine.
Thank you, Kennedy Hall, for addressing this in such a clear, organized and rational way.
"By the fruits, you will know them." Renewal Ministries has produced much fruit over the years. Everyone who is Catholic should stop watching this guy. He has not been popular until he attacked Renewal Ministries. He makes his money off of his uneducated babble.
First off, Healy did not say "don't listen to people who reject pope/VII" - she said BE DISCERNING. Her point wasn't that these people were automatically wrong, but one should take into account that these criticisms are coming from people who were out of line with what would be considered orthodox Catholicism WHILE AT THE SAME TIME gatekeeping and lecturing people about orthodox Catholicism (which the Protestant authors of these books are not doing). I'm not sure if Kennedy is being intentionally misleading about this (in order to score some "gotcha" points and smear these people), or is just too obtuse (ie low-IQ) to understand the point she is making. I hope for his sake it is the latter.
The charismatic renewal movement is officially sanctioned by the Church. It is a way or means of living one's Catholic faith, NOT a doctrinal novelty or source of "doctrinal formation" for people. In other words, there is nothing inherently heterodox about it.
What matters is substance: what is SUBSTANTIVELY wrong about this movement? If the argument is that "they think they can cast out demons and they can't", well, where in the Catechism, or any kind of official doctrinal teaching, does it say that demons can only be cast out by priests? You won't find it. Heresy is a belief that contradicts settled Church doctrine and dogmas (it seems to be necessary to define this term since Kennedy is either playing fast and loose with the definition, or he is again just too obtuse (ie-moronic) to understand its meaning). At worst they are factually wrong, but it is not heresy.
The underlying reason that people like Kennedy attack charismatic renewal seems to be that it was "started" by Protestants, but the problem with that argument is that these particular people are Catholic. I'm not charismatic and don't know much about the other hosts, but I have listened to hours of Ralph Martin and every last statement he has ever made is 100% theologically and morally orthodox. To say that he and the others are speaking heresies, effectively calling them heretics, WITHOUT ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATING ANY DOCTRINE OR DOGMA THAT THEY CONFLICT WITH, is just absolutely shameful and beyond the pale.
Healy is a seminary professor.
When you mentioned The Cross and The Switchblade that really took me back. Its a book my mother punted years and years ago. Not sure how it ties up with Catholicism as I am quite sure its a Protestant evangelical book. I say that because I think Baptists and the like were really into it. I come from a Baptist type background. I met and married my Catholic wife over 25 years ago. On her and her family's insistence married in the Catholic church and brought our children up Catholic. Well she did. I was not involved. Hardly ever attended Mass or any other church. Growing up as children we were expected to go to Church but around 18 years old I stopped. My wife looks at it as something short of a miracle that when she dragged me to a SSPX mass about 2 years ago the penny finally dropped. I was baptised at Pentecost this year and over these last 2 years have attended Mass weekly sometimes twice a week. Its quite a drive otherwise I would probably try and attend more often. Why am I giving you this background not sure. My view I take from our wonderful priests. Judge not lest you be judged. Our priests do comment on all the woke stuff etc but will not be drawn into actively criticizing the Novus Ordo or other Christian denominations. What they actively do is promote Tradition and with a conviction that is inspiring. In my heart I know Tradition is the only way but instead of criticizing other Christian faiths I try my best to live my newfound faith hopefully inspiring others to investigate it.
Good reminder. Thank you. I attend the FSSP and have a tendency to criticize the NO due to my own terrible experience growing up in it.
"As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church…In order to make this clear once again: until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church." - Pope Benedict XVI
My heart aches hearing that this woman is teaching future priests. Lord, may the young men in her courses discern properly and not take heed of her many heresies.
What are her 'heresies'?
I have gone to Encounter Ministries twice. I can tell you, it's real, both demonic and Holy Spirit. There's absolutely things we as layman can do. Fr Ripperger's book prayers for the laity. PREPARATION AND LIFESTYLE MATTER. If you're not in a state of grace, don't lay your hands on anyone. For the last 7 years I've witnessed amazing things happen, I prayed with people and yes, casted out evil in people through Jesus's Holy name.
I also attended Cursillo, that was an incredible experience and I layed hands on a person after i left the weekend, the energy leaving my arms into that person was like a cartoon, a rushing tingling like a firehose, and the person said their shoulders were burning hot, at the end of my prayers, the Face of Jesus was coming towards the person and right through him as a final burst of energy hit him the face of Jesus hit him.
My first encounter event, i did have a bad experience wanted more, more more.... the second time i did not open myself up to anything and had 3 different people unknown to each other tell me the same things.
All of that sounds like phenomena that could occur by demonic action. Our emotions, memory, and senses are subject to demonic interference, and so all of the great mystics of the Church told us to ignore them, or at least give them very little credence in our spiritual journey. Everything in your story was either about the senses, the emotions, or memory (demons can plant thoughts in other people's minds using their previous memories to build associations.) You were most likely deceived, and even if somehow your experiences weren't demonic, God was acting IN SPITE OF the heretical movement you were participating in, not because of it. That's certainly at least a near occasion of sin (superstition, pride, usurpation of authority) and not something to be trifled with.
I pray you find your way free. I have found that praying to the Holy Spirit to reveal my hidden and unknown sins will bring great fruit.
Every time someone uses multiple superlatives when calling you names you must be over the target! Keep it up Kennedy!
Does that apply to Kennedy's vicious lies and slanders too? Oh no, I forgot, he's exempt and you're exempt and every other person here is exempt as long as they are personally pleased by the lies and the slanders.
How many heresies did Kennedy accuse faithful and orthodox CATHOLIC charismatics of holding to? I have not had the time to go back and count, but I'm thinking at least ten. Do you think that's because we are "over the target" and so we're gonna take flak from the enemy?
Oh my, when I saw the video I couldn’t listen anymore after I was a few minutes into it. I left a comment and unsubscribe. I especially couldn’t listen to the woman, it was turning my stomach. I just kept thinking that Mother Angelica let Ralph Martin have a show on her network. She is one of the reasons I stayed in the Catholic Church. I do believe that the Lord is exposing heretics in these crazy times. Thank you so much Kennedy! I was waiting for more people in the traditional movement to comment on it.
I left after a while because of K. Hall’s angry and dismissive attitude. Who, exactly does he think he is? By all means do a critique of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal but maybe try even a soupçon of humility. A ghastly report.
The two Dimond Brothers' exposes on Charismatic Christianity and the Catholic Charismatic Renewal are actually pretty good. The foci tend to be on the extremes, but the discussion of the CCR development is fairly sound. Thank you, Kennedy. Having been raised a Pentecostal [prior to my conversion], I have seen the dangers of Charismatic inroads into the Catholic Church.
It's absolute garbage, just like Kennedy's evil hit pieces where he splashes "CULT" and "THEY'VE LOST THEIR MINDS" and "MINDLESS" and "DARK HISTORY" all over the thumbnail and titles. It's yellow journalism, and a particularly evil version of it too since it targets Catholic teaching along with faithful Catholics.
The Dimond Brothers are essentially their own 'church' and they routinely put out videos which mock and condemn just about everybody other than themselves.
The Catholic Church was born on Pentecost and is charismatic by nature. If you don't like it, then find another religion to your liking if that's what you're about rather than truth.
This saddens me since Ralph Martin wrote an amazingly blessed book 'Fulfillment of All Desire' outlining the spiritual life (Purgative, Illuminative, Unitive) based on the teachings of the Seven Spiritual Doctors of The Church. And we know The Doctors are approved by The Church. So it is hard to imagine someone so learned in Catholic Truth would accept such an obvious deviation from The Truth.
May we all continue to pray for our own conversion of heart as well as those who are deceived by things that lead away from Christ in His One True Catholic and Apostolic Church. 🙏
This is confusing and I think it might be dangerous. We need to be renewed in a spirit of humility to truly listen to God. He speaks in a very still small voice. Satan wants us all divided. We should be united in Christ in obedience, through humility. God is very simple ...He says, love me, obey my commanments with a sincere heart, seek Me in my Word...Why do some of these Traditionalists complicate things so much? Every sincere heart that tries to seek God shall find Him. It's the Pharisees who want to put before the little ones stumbling blocks that they will trip over. I'm a little one who tries my best to follow Jesus. I have disabilities but I know the Holy Spirit who is pure, simple and looks for only a sincere heart, willing to obey God's commands and persevere in His Truth, which He Himself teaches us.
Good Work Kennedy. This Charismatic Pentecostalism is a tool from the devil to turn Catholics away from true Worship at the TLM.
It is a feeling based encounter just like any other disordered passion.
Pax
Once the Charismatic Pentecostal grows out of the feeling mode, the TLM will be there ...
My wife was just recently diagnosed with breast cancer. We live in a small town of 800, where there's a protestant church. This woman asked if it was ok if they share that and pray for her. It is hard to tell her that her prayers are probably useless. I wanted to tell her that maybe she should sacrifice herself like the good Samaritan and drive my wife every day for 6 weeks, giving of herself 4 hours a day to travel to and from Regina as I may have to take a leave of absence for her radiation therapy.
Their prayers are not entirely useless. They are just not as efficacious. Any traditional priest will tell you this. Prayers for your wife’s healing. 🙏
"Love covers a multitude of sins". I'd imagine their prayers are far from useless.
I will keep your wife in my prayers, anyhow! God bless.
@@theperegrinecatholic2892 anyone in mortal sin has no efficacious prayers. Without the grace of the sacraments the Church has always taught that it is impossible to be without mortal sin as an adult. So no, that woman's prayers are probably useless.
Prayers for your wife❤
That’s mean, frankly. Ok, she might, in your view, be misguided but she meant well.
Pride in the nonsense we do; and the "feels", are so contrary to Catholicism.
Should Kennedy Hall and his followers have pride in the lies they tell about others and how they mock others for the gifts God has given them? Should they go by their hypocritical feelings and false beliefs regarding an essential part of the Catholic religion and try to cut it out of the Catechism and Scripture?
Good to see you don't have a log or spec in your eye Kennedy.
Laying on of hands does nothing comming from laity.
Just another blurring of lines between ordained priesthood and laity!
Very unCatholic. Very cringey when I see charismatics do it.
@@capsilog1All encouraged by the post conciliar, ersatz Catholic Church.
That's utterly false and ridiculous. I've seen people healed instantly through the laying on of hands by laity. God is good and is ready to hear and answer our prayers. He loves it when we pray together, when we care enough to show love for people who are hurting, and He uses those who pray to touch the person being prayed for. You don't have to be a priest to pray over people. And the gesture of laying on of hands is a beautiful one.
You guys are running out of good and holy things to mock. Who or what will you attack next?
@@NancyB-wx8fv It has nothing to do with blurring any lines. It's not a liturgical rite.
THANK YOU! I heard Ralph Martin and was very disturbed by what he said. I felt he was defending Pope Francis's anti-Catholic actions. It was against what I have heard and what I believed about what the Pope has done. You are speaking the truth, and I know it in my heart.
Kennedy you said that, 'In this little clip here she is going to expose the massive amount of problems...with the charismatic renewal, how it's just completely, logically bankrupt from the very get go, and shows the extraordinary confusion and the mind-numbingly stupid conception of what it means to be Catholic, and the hypocrisy." Okay wow! I am not defending any individuals you are mentioning as I don't follow them (but know who RM is), but anyway your comment seems like at sweeping brush? Did anyone put this lady or Renewal Ministries as spokesperson for the worldwide Catholic charismatic movement? This is one person and one tiny ministry in a movement that surely is informally tens if not hundreds of millions. There is undoubtedly as much diversity of thought and opinion amongst various charismatic individuals, groups, and countries as there is amongst Catholics or any other Catholic movement. Painting with one brush is akin to saying "Mere Tradition with Kennedy Hall" represents all Catholic podcasters. Um, no!
thank you for exposing the errors good job.Thank you Kennedy.
What errors?
There is nothing Catholic about this movement. Its utterly absurd. What saint ever did anything like these people do? Its clearly protestant and ridiculous
As a Teenager in the 80's I was brought to a Charismatic Meeting in a Hall adjacent to Westminster Cathedral, London. People were speaking in Tongues (gobbledegook), and falling backwards. It was strange.
Good work brother.
God uses all things to get us to him
“Ramalamadingdong” is the wrong prayer. First, you’re supposed to find out the demon’s name. Ask, “Hooputthebomp in the bompshoobomp-shoobomp?”