One of my ancestors was a melon farmer in Arizona who was captured by Geronimo. Luckily just before capture he shared melons with a couple of Indians on the side of the road. As Geronimo's band was about to kill him the Indians he saw earlier came into camp and told Geronimo what he had done for them. After shooting at his feet a bit they let my ancestor go. At least that's how the family myth goes.
Slight correction: the operation that killed Bin Laden was called Neptune Spear, not Operation Geronimo. Bin Laden's code designation for that mission was Geronimo.
As a Latin America, I never understood why people in movies shouted ¡Geronimo! After all, it’s just a normal Spanish norm, I would be like if they shouted ¡Henry!
the origin of his name « Geronimo », as well as what probably inspired the movie is an anecdote from the start of his career. The mexican soldiers screamed « geronimo » when facing him, because of the Spanish name for st Jerome, which they called for protection. That inspired him and he took it as a new name.
My grandfather jumped out of, was thrown out of, and flung out of a crashing airplane to be the only survivor. He told me no one ever yelled "Geronimo" while jumping out of an airplane. It was usually something along the lines of, "HOLY SHIT!!!" That's when something coherent came out of their mouths. Most of the rest it was just screaming.
Also that the federal government tried to sell off native reservation land, again, just a few years ago and the Canadian gov is presently, actively removing natives from their protected land.
It is interesting that to this day in Sonora, you can still hear the expression "parece que atacaron los apaches" (it looks like the apaches attacked); to refer to something extremely messy or that looks chaotic.
Not sure if you will see this, but I would love it if you did a video on American folk heroes like John Henry, Davy Crockett, Paul Bunyan, and Johnny Appleseed. It was really surprising to me as an adult to learn these were all real people who were as infinitely complex as real people are, not just the caricatures of themselves. It’s also really strange that we have this specific cast of them, that they all have their own folk song which is likely why they’re so memorialized, and they used to be kind of ‘important’ or used to be celebrities like Geronimo, but the public seems to have completely lost interest.
@@Ugly_German_Truthswell maybe most of these peoples lives were fictional but I think Davy Crockett even without the later romanticism is still a very admirable figure. During his time as part of the Tennessee State Assembly He reformed Tennessee’s policy on land grants, which made it easier for the poor and common people to get land for themselves instead of it being hogged up by a few wealthy elites He was the ONLY congressman from Tennessee to oppose Andrew Jackson’s Indian removal that lead to the trail of tears. And of course his military record in the Creek war and the Alamo.
There is something I find so indescribably sad about all of this. Bearing in mind that I am from New Zealand, as a little boy, Which believe me was a long time ago now, myself and my friends would jump from the local swimming pool diving board, and yell Geronimo when we did it. I have no idea where we got that word from or why we were saying it, perhaps from american cowboy movies of that era, but it's crazy how things like that spread, completely absent of their cultural origins.
Kurtsgesacht (I probably spelled it wrong because it's a German name) is another notable example. Their production quality is just as high as KB's but their videos take several months to upload because they painstakingly write their own music and animate everything in house
Oof, that's a complicated history. I've definitely yelled "Geronimo" when jumping off things (mostly as a kid) and had no idea where that came from. Thanks for the education.
I just read a book about Apache knife fighting. The book mentioned Geronimo and Apache warrior culture although it was pretty varied among bands. The society was more about smaller/dispersed groups as the climate was harsh so wide swathes of area were covered for hunting/gathering. This is why Apaches rejected American/Mexican land claims as they needed to roam the areas to survive. As for depictions of them being savages, they are brutal but sometimes exaggerated as written sources came from American/Spanish texts so scalping was actually a rare thing for Apache to do. Their fighting culture was very hit and run as they were essentially outnumbered and had to fight smart. Some things included baiting the enemy, ingraining a culture of running very long distances since childhood, and being quick to adopt steel weapons/guns. Several of these aspects of the general Apache warrior culture actually cross pollinates to US military tactics historically and today.
Those WWII paratroopers with the mohawks that you mention, I beleive they were called “The Filthy 13” They were a small unit of soldiers that played a similar role to British Commandos during the war. Mainly Demolition and Recon missions. Almost every assignment was a suicide mission so they would shave their heads into mohawks to stmbolize the fact they were facing certain death with the odds against them. I mever knew the exact influence of their traditions but i see now how Goyaale and the Apaches situation must of influenced the Filthy 13. The movie “The Dirty Dozen” was inspired by the Filthy 13. They were incredibly effective and went beyond their ohjectives. Some of their missions sound like the end of the movie Commando with the amount of dudes these guys would take out. Their mission an Normandy i beleive is their most signature. I live in Pensacola. Goyaale was imprisoned here at Fort Pickens for some time. They were cruel to the Apache. They were turned into a human zoo. People would pay an admission to walk by and look at them on the other side of bars like they were zoo animals. I’ve also been to the part of New Mexico where all of that went down. Such a magical place. It’s a shame to see things turn out the way they did. In the end a lot of people’s lives are destroyed on both sides, and all so a handful of people can obtain an immense amount of wealth, fortune, and power…
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the origin of his name « Geronimo », as well as what probably inspired the movie (which inspired the us soldiers). The mexican soldiers screamed « geronimo » when facing him, because of the Spanish name for st Jerome, which they called for protection. That inspired him and he took it as a new name.
That's probably a folk etymology, because it doesn't really make sense. Why would Spanish soldiers call out to the patron saint of librarians for help (I mean, I could understand if he happened to be the preferred saint of some of the individual soldiers but numerous enough that it'd become "a thing"? I find that hard to believe)? And a quick google search shows that that origin is indeed disputed.
I’m currently taking US history in Puerto Rico and we are still being fed the standard American history myth, and we don’t even have an interest in idolizing the US since PR has a distinct national identity. Strange.
You all voted to become a U.S. State, but the Federal Government fears what kind of implications that would have for PR's debt (plus the GOP won't accept another "Liberal" state being incorporated).
Geronimo wasn’t really a war or civil leader, he was more like a medicine man. His chief, Naiche, was usually shy and Geronimo was on charge of most negotiations. Naiche was Cochis son and Mangas Coloradas grandson
I recently learned Geronimo was in my family tree when my brother did one of those DNA ancestry tests. While I think it's pretty cool, he has made it his entire identity lol
Careful. They sell that genetic info to a lot of people, including cops and feds. It's already been used in several cases to complete dubiously proven charges, and goodness help you if you're an unloved minority.
I had always seen people shouting "Geronimo" in American movies and just thought that was something Italian. I had no idea native Americans were involved.
My father is a Lumbee native american and I myself am mixed. The deconstruction of the american historical myth is incredible and I cannot express enough appreciation of these works. But I think one footnote missing from some of the history so far. The Lumbee tribe are the largest federally unrecognized tribe in the US and I think its important to discuss the exception (indigenous people not contained west but instead within the Carolinas) and also to highlight how North American Indigenous groups were largely familial with fluid boundaries which is discussed within the early history of the Lumbee. The Roanoke integrating white people with seemingly little friction is, in my opinion important to deconstructing parts of the "civilizing" white supremacist narrative used against Native American and African American peoples. I hope you eventually touch on this pretty obscure part of history.
Are you familiar with the youtube channel: 'Dr. B Teaches Sociology' ? Remember, never let someone else (including KB) write your history. I think you will like Dr. B.
My father was Native himself but I was separated from him at a young age and he died shortly after. One of the few things I do know is he is from North Carolina. Are the Lumbee the tribe that were mixing in the Carolinas? I always thought those were the Cherokee.
@@InsiteVFX well it depends on the era. I’m no expert at all but there is a number of tribes you could relate too. The Cherokee among others were there in earlier pre colonial times but by later settlement and the American revolution several tribes reorganized into what would become the Lumbee
The Apaches calling the 10th Cavalry, "Buffalo Soldiers," is the coolest compliment I never really knew about, until just now, I've ever heard. It's awesome, dude. I'm tired of being known as the people with "hair like lamb's wool." Dude!
I learned about them a while ago in a different context - they were deployed out of San Francisco around the turn of the century to Yosemite, to remove the Ahwahneechee tribe from the region. They were also some of the first non-native caretakers of the park, as a result - it's a complex history. There used to be a great black park ranger in Yosemite who did a whole presentation about it. Complicated history to say the least.
I wish you were able to make more videos more frequently. I believe you are the absolute best education channel on UA-cam. I know your topics take alot of time and effort to produce but I love watching them.
2:28 Slavery of Navajo Indians was so common that a journalist who was interviewing Kit Carson after the Civil War noted he had a number of Navajo "servants" at his own estate. It was something that the Federal Government was supposed to help with, but they never really did. Untold numbers of Navajos were lost to Mexico forever.
Just want to say I appreciate the break from the lengthy videos. I don't always have time to watch those and so getting a shorter video is a nice treat.
@@jb-xc4oh Sounds like he was just a thief, in a tribe of thieves. That ruthlessly slaughtered innocent women and children wherever he went. And kept doing it even after the Americans let him live over and over again. If Americans never came he would be raiding other native tribes, and kidnapping their women to sell as slaves.
I like the fact that all of these Native American conflicts have names for each of their own wars. When I was in school they lumped all of them as "The War for the West".
Thank you for this video. But, I am really upset that your original episode on Columbus has been removed. That was one of the best historical videos I've ever run across. I hope you bring it back someday.
KB, can you release your video presentations _After Working Hours?_ Now I gotta' be all stealth at my desk to watch. If you've ever wondered why tech support has you on hold for so long....
I love that the prison sentence back then for looting and massacring countless people was 2 years in prison. And on top of that they were parading him around to meet his fans. What a time.
Geronimo's story was bloody and so sad. I would say that his people were savages, savàge, wild men who wanted freedom. He just wanted to live how his ancestors wanted - free. The story of how Americans treated Indians is terrible
Terrible........today we'd call that genocide, a crime against humanity. Americans have this juvenile ability to rationalize and dismiss the violence and brutality that they direct against others.
Fun Fact, the last Indian War was in 1974. There was no violence, but the Kootenia declared war on the US in 1974 demanding land. I think they blockaded a bridge in Northern Idaho. It was mostly a political stunt to get federally recognized. But still it was the last ‘Indian War’.
I recently read the book "watch for me on the mountain" and it tells geronimo's story in true gruesome serious detail and it's beautiful and depressing and terrifying and I highly suggest it
weird how I have your channels bell rung and I still never got notified for this video, I only found it when I went to your channel to rewatch your company town video
I live in Tucson.Have been to the cochise stronghold many times. I know Cochise county very well. I am black...only relevant because every time I go to Tombstone which is exactly 70 miles from my driveway....they always want me to see buffalo soldier stuff. Lolol. My family has Apache blood. I'm proud of that. I have explored the southwest intensely..... Side roads, etc. I encourage any of y'all to come here and see.Its beautiful and full of rich history.
1:00 TBH, even after all these of watching the Knowing Better intro, I still do this. 😫I...I just...I just want the drink cold now, damn it!! Why does no one ever put more drinks in the fridge but you yourself!?!
@@matthewpool6508 your not wrong, school was so bad in my case my parents had to homeschool me, I’m not proud in the American education system nor being self taught to be honest, I wish there was a good hands one safe and fun way to learn, I love learning but I have to relay on UA-cam for LITERALLY anything and everything
I live in Florida, and even went to a high school named after the man, but learned very little about him. All I learned (and not even in class) was that that the US government asked him to come in under pretense of a peace talk. He was then arrested, and died in custody.
Point of data: The notification for one of your new videos has finally worked. Something has shifted in the algorithm. Point of validation: Great video, as always. Thank you for your continued contributions to contemporary knowledge, during a time of celebrated ignorance.
Love your videos, always learn something new each time. I am currently reading An American Genocide by Benjamin Madley and was wondering if you would do a video on the 49ers and how they kicked off the Californian massacre of Indians during the subsequent years.
Are you familiar with the youtube channel: 'Dr. B Teaches Sociology' ? Dr. B is a Ute, and earned a PhD. I would say he is becoming the go-to source _from the Indigenous perspective._ Compared to KB, Dr. B doesn't sugar-coat.
I’ve been to Geronimo’s grave on Ft. Sill. Such an amazing story, but there’s not much to tell you about it near his grave. Unfortunately someone had also knocked the head off the eagle on his tombstone when I saw it. I’ve learned that it’s very common that people will vandalize the grave.
Here in Arizona, we have a place called Cochise stronghold where Cochise and Geronimo hid. It’s pretty much impenetrable if someone is defending it from you. High bluffs, risky hikes, heavy woods, desert climate, it’s pretty much the perfect place to wage a guerrilla war. I can only imagine how difficult it must have been to capture it. Respect to Cochise and Geronimo for their valor!
@@San_Vito if you’re not from the area, we’re the most lush desert in the word. We have sort of a desert woodland in that area, with cacti and extreme heat mixed with forest. There’s still coyotes, there’s still rattlesnakes, everything you would expect with the desert, but you also have a LOT of trees.
directly after Florida, Geronimo was taken and held at Mount Vernon Barracks in Mobile County Al. He is the patriarch behind MOWA Band of Choctaw Indians in the same county.
I just discovered your awesome channel. I was hoping to see some commentary about the trend of laws restricting the teaching of history in the U. S. Would you consider covering that?
Correction - the operation to capture/kill Bin Laden was called "Neptune's Spear". "Geronimo" was the codename the SEALs used for Bin Laden himself as the target of the operation. The confusion arises because the media initially misreported the operation itself as "Geronimo" until they were corrected by the Pentagon.
"If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." - Desmond Tutu I'm *glad* they fought as hard as they could against a colonialist power, vis a vie the English, and fought so hard for so long.
How do you let your ferret wander around outside? Our boys are so wily, we can't let them go 2 feet away from us before we get nervous about them darting away...
I grew up in Fort Sill Oklahoma, and I even went to an elementary school called Geronimo Road. There was Native American imagery all over the place but 5-year-old me didn't understand the meaning behind it.
I love the video. I find the Indian wars and removal a fascinating and under studied area of US history. But Geronimo was never actually held at Fort Marion in Saint Augustine but his family was, he was in prison at Fort Pickens near Pensacola instead.
@@hatchetwound666 I doubt KB is arguing that the USA were the good guys in any way, I think this is more showing how Geronimo's strategy both could never work and was horrificly cruel. Murdering the people helping him was a bad idea both because it created a trail to them AND killed all the people that wanted to help him, making no one trust him. Like KB said, even Apache people started helping the USA find him because of this. It doesn't make the USA's actions any less horrific
Honestly, I appreciated this take as it felt like the side of the story as seen from other members of his nation. As if to say, “yeah we get it that the Americans love him, but those of us that were his homies had mixed feelings about him.” I think what makes it hard to hear it out that way is knowing all the things we did as a country collective to American Indians. Still, he put up one helluva fight for a long time and lived to tell the tale.
If it wasn't for the very real suffering and loss of life in all this it could be a Monty Python skit, a farcical comedy with the cycle of "Surrender > put on the reservation > escape and go on a rampage > get captured and put back on the reservation > farms a bit and hates it so escapes > do some raiding and reeving > gets bored and surrenders to the reservation > escapes" then rinse and repeat with various variations.
One of my ancestors was a melon farmer in Arizona who was captured by Geronimo. Luckily just before capture he shared melons with a couple of Indians on the side of the road. As Geronimo's band was about to kill him the Indians he saw earlier came into camp and told Geronimo what he had done for them. After shooting at his feet a bit they let my ancestor go. At least that's how the family myth goes.
part of my family was living in the area at the time and fortunately weren't involved
fake story. they actually did die and you were never born. nice try, Shroomie Crossing.
I didn't know plastic surgery existed so early on
True or not, it's a great story
Liar
Slight correction: the operation that killed Bin Laden was called Neptune Spear, not Operation Geronimo. Bin Laden's code designation for that mission was Geronimo.
Does that make it any better?
@@rtredux9726 it makes it factual. I don't know if that matters to you, but some of us actually do care about such silly things as facts and the truth
@@rtredux9726 it does actually
@@rtredux9726 it doesnt matter
@@otto_von whatever you say Adolf, oh, your name is Otto?
Yeah, getting little details like names isn't important at all..
As a Latin America, I never understood why people in movies shouted ¡Geronimo! After all, it’s just a normal Spanish norm, I would be like if they shouted ¡Henry!
I would just be muttering "bollocks" , because something would definitely be going wrong.
Same
the origin of his name « Geronimo », as well as what probably inspired the movie is an anecdote from the start of his career. The mexican soldiers screamed « geronimo » when facing him, because of the Spanish name for st Jerome, which they called for protection. That inspired him and he took it as a new name.
English is a language based of beating up other languages in a back alley and taking random words from them
My grandfather jumped out of, was thrown out of, and flung out of a crashing airplane to be the only survivor. He told me no one ever yelled "Geronimo" while jumping out of an airplane. It was usually something along the lines of, "HOLY SHIT!!!" That's when something coherent came out of their mouths. Most of the rest it was just screaming.
KB: Geronimo became a changed man...
Me: Wait, that doesn't sound like the Geronimo I kn-
KB:... Bent on revenge.
Me: There we go.
Dats the guy👉🏻
It's crazy to me how all this happened just 140 years ago.
That's the wild thing about American history; everyone treats it like ancient history.
In the year 1900 horses were the main form of transportation and by 1969 astronauts went to the Moon.
@@arnulfo267 Yeah, that's wild when you think about it like that.
The end of the civil war is about 80 years before the end of world war 2. The end of WWII is about 80 years from today.
Also that the federal government tried to sell off native reservation land, again, just a few years ago and the Canadian gov is presently, actively removing natives from their protected land.
It is interesting that to this day in Sonora, you can still hear the expression "parece que atacaron los apaches" (it looks like the apaches attacked); to refer to something extremely messy or that looks chaotic.
Not sure if you will see this, but I would love it if you did a video on American folk heroes like John Henry, Davy Crockett, Paul Bunyan, and Johnny Appleseed. It was really surprising to me as an adult to learn these were all real people who were as infinitely complex as real people are, not just the caricatures of themselves. It’s also really strange that we have this specific cast of them, that they all have their own folk song which is likely why they’re so memorialized, and they used to be kind of ‘important’ or used to be celebrities like Geronimo, but the public seems to have completely lost interest.
Bro this would make a banger series in it of itself!
Bunyan was not real and the rest were never heroes. That's all later romantization.
@@Ugly_German_Truths thanks for saying this! I was about to lose my mind
@@Ugly_German_Truthswell maybe most of these peoples lives were fictional but I think Davy Crockett even without the later romanticism is still a very admirable figure.
During his time as part of the Tennessee State Assembly He reformed Tennessee’s policy on land grants, which made it easier for the poor and common people to get land for themselves instead of it being hogged up by a few wealthy elites
He was the ONLY congressman from Tennessee to oppose Andrew Jackson’s Indian removal that lead to the trail of tears.
And of course his military record in the Creek war and the Alamo.
It's OBVIOUS KB CHOOSES 2 TAKE ALL THE 'ROMANCE' FROM THESE STORIES WE KNOW "& LOVE"‼️❗️.
So I Say 2 This Subject Matter... LET HIM COOK❗️‼️.
There is something I find so indescribably sad about all of this. Bearing in mind that I am from New Zealand, as a little boy, Which believe me was a long time ago now, myself and my friends would jump from the local swimming pool diving board, and yell Geronimo when we did it. I have no idea where we got that word from or why we were saying it, perhaps from american cowboy movies of that era, but it's crazy how things like that spread, completely absent of their cultural origins.
Us too. Im 30
You may have got it from the simpsons when Bart used to say it
KB is the only UA-camr I get legitimately excited for when they upload
He’s very handsome indeed…!😇
I can think of a few.
Truth.
Kurtsgesacht (I probably spelled it wrong because it's a German name) is another notable example.
Their production quality is just as high as KB's but their videos take several months to upload because they painstakingly write their own music and animate everything in house
Oof, that's a complicated history. I've definitely yelled "Geronimo" when jumping off things (mostly as a kid) and had no idea where that came from. Thanks for the education.
I just read a book about Apache knife fighting. The book mentioned Geronimo and Apache warrior culture although it was pretty varied among bands. The society was more about smaller/dispersed groups as the climate was harsh so wide swathes of area were covered for hunting/gathering. This is why Apaches rejected American/Mexican land claims as they needed to roam the areas to survive. As for depictions of them being savages, they are brutal but sometimes exaggerated as written sources came from American/Spanish texts so scalping was actually a rare thing for Apache to do. Their fighting culture was very hit and run as they were essentially outnumbered and had to fight smart. Some things included baiting the enemy, ingraining a culture of running very long distances since childhood, and being quick to adopt steel weapons/guns. Several of these aspects of the general Apache warrior culture actually cross pollinates to US military tactics historically and today.
What is the name of this book? I'd love to see if our library has it.
@@nyctotheory The book is called Apache Knife Fighting by Robert Redfeather.
Were the apaches the ones that liked eating horses or am I confusing them with a different tribe?
Those WWII paratroopers with the mohawks that you mention, I beleive they were called
“The Filthy 13”
They were a small unit of soldiers that played a similar role to British Commandos during the war. Mainly Demolition and Recon missions.
Almost every assignment was a suicide mission so they would shave their heads into mohawks to stmbolize the fact they were facing certain death with the odds against them.
I mever knew the exact influence of their traditions but i see now how Goyaale and the Apaches situation must of influenced the Filthy 13.
The movie “The Dirty Dozen” was inspired by the Filthy 13. They were incredibly effective and went beyond their ohjectives. Some of their missions sound like the end of the movie Commando with the amount of dudes these guys would take out. Their mission an Normandy i beleive is their most signature.
I live in Pensacola. Goyaale was imprisoned here at Fort Pickens for some time. They were cruel to the Apache. They were turned into a human zoo. People would pay an admission to walk by and look at them on the other side of bars like they were zoo animals.
I’ve also been to the part of New Mexico where all of that went down. Such a magical place. It’s a shame to see things turn out the way they did.
In the end a lot of people’s lives are destroyed on both sides, and all so a handful of people can obtain an immense amount of wealth, fortune, and power…
Can’t wait for a paratrooper division to see the dirty dozen and get inspired to name themselves “the Stinky 17” and restart the cycle over again
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the origin of his name « Geronimo », as well as what probably inspired the movie (which inspired the us soldiers). The mexican soldiers screamed « geronimo » when facing him, because of the Spanish name for st Jerome, which they called for protection. That inspired him and he took it as a new name.
That's probably a folk etymology, because it doesn't really make sense. Why would Spanish soldiers call out to the patron saint of librarians for help (I mean, I could understand if he happened to be the preferred saint of some of the individual soldiers but numerous enough that it'd become "a thing"? I find that hard to believe)? And a quick google search shows that that origin is indeed disputed.
Yes! The Geronimo video! You've made my day KB. Thanks for all you do.
Always great to see Arizona-related history discussed, amazing content as always.
I’m currently taking US history in Puerto Rico and we are still being fed the standard American history myth, and we don’t even have an interest in idolizing the US since PR has a distinct national identity. Strange.
Probably due to the fact Puerto Rico is part of the US commonwealth
Anyone from Guam or American Samoa have their own experience regarding this? They're even more removed from the US, but also have large navy bases.
@@ShellyTheSeal and yet they can't vote in US elections. Funny, huh
@@ColinMcCormack well yeah how else would we marginalize them
You all voted to become a U.S. State, but the Federal Government fears what kind of implications that would have for PR's debt (plus the GOP won't accept another "Liberal" state being incorporated).
Geronimo wasn’t really a war or civil leader, he was more like a medicine man. His chief, Naiche, was usually shy and Geronimo was on charge of most negotiations.
Naiche was Cochis son and Mangas Coloradas grandson
I recently learned Geronimo was in my family tree when my brother did one of those DNA ancestry tests. While I think it's pretty cool, he has made it his entire identity lol
You should get together with the other guy! He commented Geronimo spared his ancestor the melon farmer :D
Careful. They sell that genetic info to a lot of people, including cops and feds. It's already been used in several cases to complete dubiously proven charges, and goodness help you if you're an unloved minority.
"As a indigenous ☝️🤓"
I had always seen people shouting "Geronimo" in American movies and just thought that was something Italian. I had no idea native Americans were involved.
My father is a Lumbee native american and I myself am mixed. The deconstruction of the american historical myth is incredible and I cannot express enough appreciation of these works. But I think one footnote missing from some of the history so far. The Lumbee tribe are the largest federally unrecognized tribe in the US and I think its important to discuss the exception (indigenous people not contained west but instead within the Carolinas) and also to highlight how North American Indigenous groups were largely familial with fluid boundaries which is discussed within the early history of the Lumbee. The Roanoke integrating white people with seemingly little friction is, in my opinion important to deconstructing parts of the "civilizing" white supremacist narrative used against Native American and African American peoples. I hope you eventually touch on this pretty obscure part of history.
Are you familiar with the youtube channel: 'Dr. B Teaches Sociology' ? Remember, never let someone else (including KB) write your history. I think you will like Dr. B.
My father was Native himself but I was separated from him at a young age and he died shortly after. One of the few things I do know is he is from North Carolina. Are the Lumbee the tribe that were mixing in the Carolinas? I always thought those were the Cherokee.
@@InsiteVFX well it depends on the era. I’m no expert at all but there is a number of tribes you could relate too. The Cherokee among others were there in earlier pre colonial times but by later settlement and the American revolution several tribes reorganized into what would become the Lumbee
@@shotelco hey thanks I’ll check it out!! I’m always looking for more info
You are QUITE literally the history teacher I needed! Thanks, better late than never
The 1-509 is now Op-FOR at JRTC and is called "Geronimo" as the enemy. First time I went I was amazed that was still a thing
The Apaches calling the 10th Cavalry, "Buffalo Soldiers," is the coolest compliment I never really knew about, until just now, I've ever heard. It's awesome, dude. I'm tired of being known as the people with "hair like lamb's wool." Dude!
I learned about them a while ago in a different context - they were deployed out of San Francisco around the turn of the century to Yosemite, to remove the Ahwahneechee tribe from the region. They were also some of the first non-native caretakers of the park, as a result - it's a complex history. There used to be a great black park ranger in Yosemite who did a whole presentation about it. Complicated history to say the least.
It's bs. They were called buffalo soldiers because they massacre buffalos
I'm sure Geronimo would be absolutely tickled that people shout his name going into battle or doing risky stunts.
Typically I need to schedule a movie night to watch KBs vids 😅. 16 minutes every now and then is refreshing
Lmao I had thought the same thing. "Wow, I guess can watch this one right away"
Your channel just came across my algorithm, after scanning video topics, I am so thrilled to dive in. Thank you.
I wish you were able to make more videos more frequently. I believe you are the absolute best education channel on UA-cam. I know your topics take alot of time and effort to produce but I love watching them.
2:28 Slavery of Navajo Indians was so common that a journalist who was interviewing Kit Carson after the Civil War noted he had a number of Navajo "servants" at his own estate. It was something that the Federal Government was supposed to help with, but they never really did. Untold numbers of Navajos were lost to Mexico forever.
The Navajo were the last slaveholders in the US, keeping their Ute slaves until 1909.
“The Apache called them that because of their hair”, that is funny as hell!!
I wish he'd record in 4k, but then I remembered we can't see 4k, and it's only my imagination that all other 4k videos look great
Just sit closer to your screen, appreciate your tiny zone of the 4k
Yes
You should definitely talk about the Genizaro more, the native slaves aren't talked about a lot
Thank you for also uploading it here
I love how we get "to the Indians, all Americans are the same" and "to the Americans, all Indians are the same" BEFORE WE GET TO MINUTE 3
Just want to say I appreciate the break from the lengthy videos. I don't always have time to watch those and so getting a shorter video is a nice treat.
quite the opposite, longer videos are clearly superior.
@@EthanPerales. Oh ok thanks for the clarification
Geronimo was a ruthless warrior but he became so successful that he was celebrated by his own enemies.
He fought for his land, his people and his freedom to walk the earth.
@@jb-xc4oh Sounds like he was just a thief, in a tribe of thieves. That ruthlessly slaughtered innocent women and children wherever he went. And kept doing it even after the Americans let him live over and over again. If Americans never came he would be raiding other native tribes, and kidnapping their women to sell as slaves.
My tribe, the Navajo knew Geronimo and his acts of defiance. We take pride in him. As he was a relative.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about "Geronimo's Cadillac".
I paid Nebula just for you to drop it on UA-cam lmaoo. Ag all good I hope there’s another vid soon
Every time I get smarter, I’m going to exclaim: “Knowing Better!”
I like the fact that all of these Native American conflicts have names for each of their own wars. When I was in school they lumped all of them as "The War for the West".
Thank you for this video. But, I am really upset that your original episode on Columbus has been removed. That was one of the best historical videos I've ever run across. I hope you bring it back someday.
I just rewatched your video/documentary about American Indians yesterday, so this is a pleasant surprise. 😊
You been knocking it out of the park with these Native history videos.
KB, can you release your video presentations _After Working Hours?_ Now I gotta' be all stealth at my desk to watch. If you've ever wondered why tech support has you on hold for so long....
Pretty unprofessional to keep customers waiting for services so you can watch a UA-cam video.
@@0ThrowawayAccount0 I'm pretty sure they were joking about that part
@@cuttlefishfan Tech Support is no joking matter.
Thanks for another great video! Glad to see you back. 😊
Geronimo was partially deaf. That's why people yell his name real loud
I love that the prison sentence back then for looting and massacring countless people was 2 years in prison. And on top of that they were parading him around to meet his fans. What a time.
Everybody was doin it, he was just the best I guess
Great video!! If only it were 4 hours longer, lol. Thanks again
Imagine in 2100, Spacecraft pilot yells "OSAMAAAAAA!!" when they escape orbit.... that's the same as Geronimo I think
I’ll say geronimo’s struggles against white colonialism in the west is admirable, his methods were ugh … yikes
Love this channel.
I'm glad you changed the video title; YT didn't notify me until you did.
Geronimo's story was bloody and so sad. I would say that his people were savages, savàge, wild men who wanted freedom. He just wanted to live how his ancestors wanted - free. The story of how Americans treated Indians is terrible
Terrible........today we'd call that genocide, a crime against humanity. Americans have this juvenile ability to rationalize and dismiss the violence and brutality that they direct against others.
Fun Fact, the last Indian War was in 1974. There was no violence, but the Kootenia declared war on the US in 1974 demanding land. I think they blockaded a bridge in Northern Idaho.
It was mostly a political stunt to get federally recognized. But still it was the last ‘Indian War’.
I recently read the book "watch for me on the mountain" and it tells geronimo's story in true gruesome serious detail and it's beautiful and depressing and terrifying and I highly suggest it
weird how I have your channels bell rung and I still never got notified for this video, I only found it when I went to your channel to rewatch your company town video
Very strange that my town loves Geronimo...
The absolute Best history channel on UA-cam
Yay a new video, I've been going thru old videos since I'm falling in love with your style!
This video is several months old. It used to be a Nebula exclusive I think.
Love your content! Wish I could say the auto-focus jittering at the sides didn't distract me but it totally did. 😅
I've really enjoyed all of your Native American videos. I hope you do many more!
I live in Tucson.Have been to the cochise stronghold many times. I know Cochise county very well. I am black...only relevant because every time I go to Tombstone which is exactly 70 miles from my driveway....they always want me to see buffalo soldier stuff. Lolol.
My family has Apache blood. I'm proud of that. I have explored the southwest intensely..... Side roads, etc. I encourage any of y'all to come here and see.Its beautiful and full of rich history.
1:00 TBH, even after all these of watching the Knowing Better intro, I still do this. 😫I...I just...I just want the drink cold now, damn it!! Why does no one ever put more drinks in the fridge but you yourself!?!
I'm learning very much about American history, these videos are really good. Also these starcraft quotes always catch me off guard xD
A knowing better and an Atun shei in one day, must be my lucky day
Thank you so much for your videos, my dude, they are packed with honest info.
Yessss KB is back! Always love new uploads.
That’s where Geronimo comes from?!
The tragedy of American education.
@@matthewpool6508 your not wrong, school was so bad in my case my parents had to homeschool me, I’m not proud in the American education system nor being self taught to be honest, I wish there was a good hands one safe and fun way to learn, I love learning but I have to relay on UA-cam for LITERALLY anything and everything
@@matthewpool6508 As a non-American, I just assumed that name sounded Italian. I had no idea it had anything to do with Indians.
it's the spanish version of the name Jerome, Hieronymus, etc.
I wish you would do a video like this on Oscela, who has an equally interesting story.
I live in Florida, and even went to a high school named after the man, but learned very little about him. All I learned (and not even in class) was that that the US government asked him to come in under pretense of a peace talk. He was then arrested, and died in custody.
You are the man. I am very appreciative of your work
FYI
As an Ozzie kid in the 80s I thought Geronimo was what you seppos yelled when you jumped out of a plane.
Yeah, I get why he went by “the worst Indian that ever lived”
Point of data: The notification for one of your new videos has finally worked. Something has shifted in the algorithm.
Point of validation: Great video, as always. Thank you for your continued contributions to contemporary knowledge, during a time of celebrated ignorance.
Love your videos, always learn something new each time. I am currently reading An American Genocide by Benjamin Madley and was wondering if you would do a video on the 49ers and how they kicked off the Californian massacre of Indians during the subsequent years.
Are you familiar with the youtube channel: 'Dr. B Teaches Sociology' ? Dr. B is a Ute, and earned a PhD. I would say he is becoming the go-to source _from the Indigenous perspective._ Compared to KB, Dr. B doesn't sugar-coat.
@@shotelco Thanks, will definitely check out his channel
Thank you, as always
I’ve been to Geronimo’s grave on Ft. Sill. Such an amazing story, but there’s not much to tell you about it near his grave. Unfortunately someone had also knocked the head off the eagle on his tombstone when I saw it. I’ve learned that it’s very common that people will vandalize the grave.
Here in Arizona, we have a place called Cochise stronghold where Cochise and Geronimo hid. It’s pretty much impenetrable if someone is defending it from you. High bluffs, risky hikes, heavy woods, desert climate, it’s pretty much the perfect place to wage a guerrilla war. I can only imagine how difficult it must have been to capture it. Respect to Cochise and Geronimo for their valor!
Agreed! Cochise and Geronimo lived (for the most part) standing like Men, and not on their knees like ... well... you know.
What does "desert climate" mean when you have "heavy woods"? I don't get it.
@@San_Vito if you’re not from the area, we’re the most lush desert in the word. We have sort of a desert woodland in that area, with cacti and extreme heat mixed with forest. There’s still coyotes, there’s still rattlesnakes, everything you would expect with the desert, but you also have a LOT of trees.
@@malegria9641 Thanks for the answer. Sounds like an interesting landscape.
@@San_Vito it really is, and I can’t recommend a pleasant afternoon hiking around enough.
Wake up bae, knowing better uploaded
directly after Florida, Geronimo was taken and held at Mount Vernon Barracks in Mobile County Al. He is the patriarch behind MOWA Band of Choctaw Indians in the same county.
I just discovered your awesome channel. I was hoping to see some commentary about the trend of laws restricting the teaching of history in the U. S. Would you consider covering that?
Yooo you got a shoutout from cyber knight, the minesweeper player
Correction - the operation to capture/kill Bin Laden was called "Neptune's Spear". "Geronimo" was the codename the SEALs used for Bin Laden himself as the target of the operation. The confusion arises because the media initially misreported the operation itself as "Geronimo" until they were corrected by the Pentagon.
My man literally flanderized his self, damn - he literally was just a straight up evil villain, complete with a tragic backstory.
"If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor."
- Desmond Tutu
I'm *glad* they fought as hard as they could against a colonialist power, vis a vie the English, and fought so hard for so long.
How do you let your ferret wander around outside? Our boys are so wily, we can't let them go 2 feet away from us before we get nervous about them darting away...
I can't wait until you take on the story of Yaqui
I grew up in Fort Sill Oklahoma, and I even went to an elementary school called Geronimo Road. There was Native American imagery all over the place but 5-year-old me didn't understand the meaning behind it.
I honestly though Geronimo was just a shoutout for when you do something reckless. Never knew it was a person.
I love the video. I find the Indian wars and removal a fascinating and under studied area of US history. But Geronimo was never actually held at Fort Marion in Saint Augustine but his family was, he was in prison at Fort Pickens near Pensacola instead.
Not 90 minutes long?! Impossible to watch!
You're alive! Yayyyyy!
The opening sequence seems to be degrading with each new video like an overused cassette tape, nice touch.
Why is this on UA-cam, I thought this was a nebula exclusive only?
Just a point of privilege, if you will, the Buffalo Soldier photo was 24th or 25th Infantry, also called Buffalo Soldiers
What about chiefs Tecumseh and Pontiac? You should talk about the great Indian resistance too!
I made a 2.5-hour video where I talk about them at length. 😐
@@KnowingBetter I can't find it anywhere. Where is it
@@KnowingBetter so is it on your own website or patron?
@@captainclarky5352 I suppose he refers on the video on "indian removal"
Thanks KB!
I was waiting for the scene from Hot Shots 2 as soon as you started talking about paratroopers!!
Man really said "what if I just left?" and it kept fucking working, much to everyone's dismay
"Bruh, you are making things worse for yourself?!" I think things were never going to get better for his people no wonder what they did.
Yeah lol I was fuming the whole video dude is definitely one sided af
@@hatchetwound666 I commented before the end. After hearing how the remnants were treated, he kind of has a point, but only marginally.
@@brenatevi Based on how it all ended up anyways I don't think he was wrong to fight. That could just as easily be me being one sided.
@@hatchetwound666 I doubt KB is arguing that the USA were the good guys in any way, I think this is more showing how Geronimo's strategy both could never work and was horrificly cruel. Murdering the people helping him was a bad idea both because it created a trail to them AND killed all the people that wanted to help him, making no one trust him. Like KB said, even Apache people started helping the USA find him because of this. It doesn't make the USA's actions any less horrific
Honestly, I appreciated this take as it felt like the side of the story as seen from other members of his nation. As if to say, “yeah we get it that the Americans love him, but those of us that were his homies had mixed feelings about him.”
I think what makes it hard to hear it out that way is knowing all the things we did as a country collective to American Indians.
Still, he put up one helluva fight for a long time and lived to tell the tale.
This one is only 20 minutes this might as well be a short for KB still love your content dude keep up the good work
If it wasn't for the very real suffering and loss of life in all this it could be a Monty Python skit, a farcical comedy with the cycle of "Surrender > put on the reservation > escape and go on a rampage > get captured and put back on the reservation > farms a bit and hates it so escapes > do some raiding and reeving > gets bored and surrenders to the reservation > escapes" then rinse and repeat with various variations.
I'm literally in the middle of the Apache Wars on the podcast "Legends of the Old West." It's pretty good. I paid the 4.99 and everything.