Who are the Polish Haitians?

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    It isn't immediately obvious why there would be a centuries-old connection between Poland, a country in Eastern Europe, and Haiti, the western half of the Caribbean island of Hispaniola. However, a community of people exist in Haiti who are descended from Polish soldiers sent there by Napoleon to quell a slave uprising, but rather than fighting them, joined with them to defeat the French attempt to reimpose slavery and subsequently stayed on Haiti to become the 'Polone Nwa' - the 'Black Haitians.'
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:07 - Decline of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
    2:11 - Russia, Prussia and Austria
    2:54 - First Partition of Poland
    3:06 - Prusso-Polish Alliance
    3:53 - Second Partition of Poland
    4:08 - Kościuszko Uprising
    4:36 - Third Partition of Poland
    4:49 - International Politics
    5:12 - Magellan TV Ad
    5:54 - Rob Brydon!
    5:58 - Magellan TV Ad
    6:36 - Polish Legions
    7:23 - Shipment to Haiti
    8:10 - Defection to the Rebels
    10:04 - Victory
    11:42 - Memes
    11:58 - The First Polish Haitians
    13:36 - Polish Influence on Vodou
    15:10 - Polish Haitians Under the Devalier Regime
    17:05 - Recent Polish-Haitian Connections
    17:33 - Polish Culture in Modern Haiti
    19:30 - Outro
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  • @synkkamaan1331
    @synkkamaan1331 3 роки тому +1521

    My man slaying that Polish pronunciation!

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 роки тому +57

      I would say that it's decent

    • @richlisola1
      @richlisola1 3 роки тому +67

      @@KAESowicz Yeah, slaying means good, it’s slang

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  3 роки тому +131

      Haha thanks man! Doing my best eh ;)

    • @MaciejBogdanStepien
      @MaciejBogdanStepien 2 роки тому +32

      @@historywithhilbert146 yup. 9.6 out of 10 (where 0.3 out of 10 is the YT average)

    • @grandsome1
      @grandsome1 2 роки тому +21

      His French is on point too.

  • @rapportbuildingfirst8695
    @rapportbuildingfirst8695 3 роки тому +1033

    Fun side note, Australia's highest mountain is named 'Mt Kosciuszko' after the Polish hero. It was named by Polish explorer Paul Strzelecki (who also gets a mountain chain named after him in the country) in 1840..., Poland may have been off the map at the time but Polish heritage was still alive and well.

    • @warreneckels4945
      @warreneckels4945 2 роки тому +42

      Poles overseas were sometimes known as living in the Fourth Partition.

    • @wiktorco
      @wiktorco 2 роки тому +3

      Kościuszko
      Kości - Bones
      uszko is a diminutive of the word ucho - ear

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 2 роки тому +93

      @@wiktorco Sorry, but that's an accidental false etymology. The surname Kościuszko is of East Slavic (Belarusian, if I may use bit anachronistic terminology) origin and was first a diminutive nickname derived from the name Konstanty, as was one of his ancestors called.

    • @mikikulesza
      @mikikulesza 2 роки тому +22

      @@wiktorco xDDD as a pole I find this hilarious

    • @Litwinus
      @Litwinus 2 роки тому +40

      There is an old Polish proverb-: Where the devil cannot, he will send a Pole "

  • @noulafrantz8589
    @noulafrantz8589 Рік тому +85

    Great content I am Haitian respect to the Poland 🇵🇱 people for helping haiti 🇭🇹 won their independence no one in this world no matter what color you are should be slave

    • @baird5682
      @baird5682 8 місяців тому +7

      Hehe, as a Polish I give you a Slav pass. :D

    • @machovalkarie7896
      @machovalkarie7896 4 місяці тому +3

      @@baird5682as a hatian thank you for the slav pass in ezchange I give u the n word pass

    • @overlord1995
      @overlord1995 3 місяці тому

      The word slave comes from the word Slav. Slavery was not about race, it was all about easy targets

  • @sontatanga54
    @sontatanga54 3 роки тому +683

    İ read about Polish soldiers in Russian army fleeing and joining the Caucasian resistance against Tsar. God bless Polish people and respect from an Abkhazian. And ofc the Polish warrior Janusz Godava who raised the first Abkhazian flag in Sukhumi at 1993.

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 роки тому +108

      Where there was a revolution, there were Poles

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 роки тому +37

      @@niepowaznyczlowiek based

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  3 роки тому +38

      Interesting! Haven't heard much about this before but will take a look.

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 роки тому +13

      @@historywithhilbert146 Waiting on a video 🤠

    • @ConorMcgregor322
      @ConorMcgregor322 3 роки тому +1

      Abkhazians are usually pro-Russian, given the current status of the region. Do you support independence or reintegration into Georgia?

  • @theodoreroosevelt3143
    @theodoreroosevelt3143 3 роки тому +460

    Polish viewer here, i appreciate a lot that you try to do nice pronunciation of polish surnames.
    i know it's hard but you do it quite well, thank you a lot, it's very cute of you

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 роки тому +19

      I say that his polish pronunciation is good.
      I think that it's hard to demand more for English speaking youtuber.
      Considering how hard Polish pronunciation is for English speaking people it's very nice that he put an effort to pronounce it so well.

    • @kurzges4105
      @kurzges4105 3 роки тому +10

      @@KAESowicz I think he's actually dutch which would somewhat help with pronunciation

    • @ReaperCH90
      @ReaperCH90 3 роки тому +9

      @@kurzges4105 yeah, he is dutch, but he hides it very well and would never put in any reference to the Netherlands unless he really has tom

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  3 роки тому +36

      Dziękuję! Glad it wasn't too terrible ;)

    • @pfdrtom
      @pfdrtom 2 роки тому +6

      Greetings from Cestohowa, Texas!

  • @joanignasi91
    @joanignasi91 3 роки тому +937

    I find it fascinating that seemingly unrelated peoples due to a set specific circumstances managed to find common cause, I would love to hear more about other people like that in the future.

    • @419prince
      @419prince 3 роки тому +100

      @Zoomer Waffen "civilians", more like slave owners

    • @419prince
      @419prince 3 роки тому +61

      @Zoomer Waffen too edgy bro, don't cut someone🥶

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 роки тому +46

      @Zoomer Waffen Ohh poor little Slave owners all they did was kill and exploit people bcuz of skin color😭😭

    • @raguelelnaqum
      @raguelelnaqum 3 роки тому +46

      @Zoomer Waffen ​ You do realize that that the French slave owners repeatedly massacred their own non-rebelling slaves, as well as non-enslaved blacks, just to punitively punish the community for the actions of a few in the early years of the conflict? It's why the rebellion gained steam amongst the black Freedmen despite several owning slaves themselves initially. These weren't innocents, as much as a slave owner can be 'innocent'. Because they weren't just slavers, they were mass murderers.

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 роки тому +14

      @Zoomer Waffen what is your problem waffle?

  • @Mattteus
    @Mattteus 3 роки тому +84

    So the Polish helped the independence of Haiti and the US. Pretty cool

    • @Mattteus
      @Mattteus 3 роки тому

      @Zoomer Waffen Argentina?

    • @Mattteus
      @Mattteus 3 роки тому

      @Zoomer Waffen …and?

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 роки тому +9

      Also participated in many other revolutions

    • @flamandzrumem6053
      @flamandzrumem6053 2 роки тому +7

      @Zoomer Waffen you think you are racist? I can be way more racist than you will ever be

    • @aco9880
      @aco9880 2 роки тому

      @Zoomer Waffen say hello to Jamal from me, I heard he got himself 3 german wives

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 роки тому +494

    This is such an awesome video, even better than I expected.
    I might add two random fun facts:
    1. Polish General Władysław Franciszek Jabłonowski, who died in Haiti from yellow fever in 1802 was in an ironic twist of fate half-Black himself (look it up).
    2. Polish soldiers appeared in Haiti yet again in 1994, as the special forces unit GROM took part in Operation Uphold Democracy.

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 роки тому +28

      I actually didn't know that, thanks for the fun facts

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  3 роки тому +71

      Bardzo dziękuję Artur! Very happy to hear you enjoyed the video and many thanks for the extra info - I did find out about General Jabłonowski in my research but didn't managed to add him in the end - funny how these things play out eh.

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 2 роки тому +24

      Jablownski went to France's elite military academy L'Ecole Militaire with Napoleon

    • @PR_nick
      @PR_nick 2 роки тому +17

      @@historywithhilbert146 He was first black skin general i Europe.

    • @InteloPL
      @InteloPL 2 роки тому +5

      And refused to do the whole-armor nonsense - to gain respect and trust of the locals they just used uniforms and weapons, most of the time no amor.

  • @jaysonemile6633
    @jaysonemile6633 2 роки тому +331

    Im Haitian american and my dad says we have some polish blood. He is from cazale haiti and a lot of people from my dads side do look different from the average Haitian. So I took a DNA test and get my results in about 2 weeks I might make a video about my results

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 2 роки тому +35

      Greetings from Poland

    • @jaysonemile6633
      @jaysonemile6633 2 роки тому +60

      So I got my results in in total I am 22% European. Which is crazy to me I did not think I had that much. But none of it was from Poland 😪.

    • @ntavlas
      @ntavlas 2 роки тому +79

      @@jaysonemile6633 Poland was full of minorities at the time, I would believe what the family tells you, rather than the genes test indicating something else. Greatgrandfather was a Hungarian, greatgrandmother Jewish, there was a mix of scandinavian blood, but they would call themselves Poles and thats what mattered.

    • @jaysonemile6633
      @jaysonemile6633 2 роки тому +20

      Ok my European admixture consists of 6% Ireland, 6% French, 6% Portugal, 2% Wales, 1 Balkans region and 1 England and north Western Europe.
      They updated my results and I am 9% wales and %8 France 2% basque and 2% Ireland and 1% Sardinia .

    • @user-mc5vy2vk5n
      @user-mc5vy2vk5n 2 роки тому +43

      @@jaysonemile6633 nevermind, if you respect us, you can identify as partially Polish, maybe even we are gonna adopt you and feed with gołąbki and barszcz czerwony. 😜😂

  • @hgfw9295
    @hgfw9295 2 роки тому +261

    I'm just happy Polish soldiers demonstrated their disagreenment with slavery and switched the colours into Haitian. Really proud of that!

    • @bartoszk4299
      @bartoszk4299 2 роки тому +6

      Not only that. Kościuszko, when he was going back from USA told Jefferson to sell his land and use the money to buy as many slaves as he could, set them free and provide education and homes for them.
      5th day of May 1798
      I Thaddeus Kosciuszko being just in my departure from America do hereby declare and direct that should I make no other testamentory disposition of my property in the United States I hereby authorise my friend Thomas Jefferson to employ the whole thereof in purchasing Negroes from among his own or any others and giving them Liberty in my name, in giving them en education in trades or othervise and in having them instructed for their new condition in the duties of morality which may make them good neigh bours good fathers or moders, husbands or vives and in their duties as citisens teeching them to be defenders of their Liberty and Country and of the good order of Society and in whatsoever may Make them happy and useful, and I make the said Thomas Jefferson my executor of this

    • @deepthoughts8393
      @deepthoughts8393 2 роки тому

      Polish people are always the unsung hero’s

    • @tomexor
      @tomexor 2 роки тому +38

      Because we don't beg for freedom... we fight for it..!!!! God bless Haiti 🇭🇹 🙏 ❤️

    • @tomexor
      @tomexor Рік тому +3

      @Bon cade Whatever Man... all the best 4 U and your fammily.

    • @tomexor
      @tomexor Рік тому +1

      @Bon cade where you from Mate?

  • @Dan-yr7zn
    @Dan-yr7zn 2 роки тому +151

    You should do a video of the Polish-Chinese state of Jaxa, its absolutely bizarre and greatly interesting but almost never mentioned in history.

    • @pawelfafara189
      @pawelfafara189 Рік тому +4

      That is a new one! I appreciate the recommendation.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@pawelfafara189search on, the great deceit: the polish legion in Haiti. 4500 out of the 5000 polish legion died in the battlefield.500 had surrendered in cap-haitian. only the account from the winner is accurate.not the other way around.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@pawelfafara189ask yourself this question, did the french had trouble coping in Guadeloupe, Martinique, Trinidad, st Lucia, and west Africa? the answer is no.their only claimed trouble with yellow fever in only one place where they were defeated not once, but twice, and that place is Haiti. yellow fever is a save face story. why would anybody begged to stay in a place that you have 98 percent chances of dying from yellow fever?

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      This is not accurate

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@pawelfafara189and about the french force Haiti to pay to recognized Haiti independence is false. France had 12 of his ally's sided with them and threatened Haiti with gunboats diplomacy, which means to stay offshore and chicken fight

  • @Darkdragon5544
    @Darkdragon5544 3 роки тому +98

    Hello from Montreal
    Haitian community is huge in Montreal, it was a thing that really got me wondering: What do some have Slavic/Polish surnames. You demistified it for me 🙂

  • @rodgachelin5998
    @rodgachelin5998 2 роки тому +28

    As a Haitian American with Polish ancestry (through my Dad's side of the family in the town of Fond des Blancs, this was a great video! More video like this one is vital to learning the FULL history, not just the cliff note version. Thanks again! Great video!

  • @stanleydouge2803
    @stanleydouge2803 3 роки тому +364

    That’s probably why on my ancestry test I had some Slavic DNA I’m Haitian that’s interesting the government need to invest more in Cazale

    • @D0omC0okie
      @D0omC0okie 2 роки тому +52

      Word, I never did an ancestry test, but my great grandma’s last name was lauvinski, till today I never knew why

    • @soreveruss2350
      @soreveruss2350 2 роки тому +55

      so probably your grandmother have polish ancestors. Lauvinski is pro english version of polish last name "Lałwiński" greating from Cracow

    • @D0omC0okie
      @D0omC0okie 2 роки тому +16

      @@soreveruss2350 I have to do more research on my ancestry, thanks for that. greetings from SF 🤩

    • @MsFrancois1
      @MsFrancois1 2 роки тому +14

      Is your family from the Valley of Jacmel? I believe that was one of the areas Polish soldiers settled in.

    • @colonellKurtz
      @colonellKurtz 2 роки тому +20

      🇵🇱🤝🇭🇹

  • @ragnargrabson1287
    @ragnargrabson1287 2 роки тому +38

    Super interesting video. Poles learned how to adopt and improvise in order to survive thanks to its complicated and quite often tragic history. It is not incident that Polish anthem states: "Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła póki my żyjemy" or "Poland has not died yet while we are alive."

  • @mustafabinsober1248
    @mustafabinsober1248 2 роки тому +39

    Thank you Polish soldiers for helping to create paradise that is Haiti

    • @proudpolishherbsman2583
      @proudpolishherbsman2583 2 роки тому +24

      Yes, Haiti is the one of the poorest countries in the world, but at least Polish people faught for freedom of slaves, and never enslaved people like Western Europeans, Southern Europeans, Communists, Jws and Muslims did.

    • @baird5682
      @baird5682 8 місяців тому +1

      Polish soldiers helped Haiti become independent.
      It was western embargo set on the island for it insolence that lead to current horrible conditions. Set as an example for other would be slave rebels, Haiti is still an example of a wrath of the western imperialism. I would rather live on Haiti than Russian Siberia.

  • @SurMikasMetin2PL
    @SurMikasMetin2PL 2 роки тому +352

    Make a film about the "Polish king of Madagascar" - also the local people proclaimed him their king. A very interesting story :P

    • @nimai7074
      @nimai7074 2 роки тому +6

      He wasn't Polish, Móric Beňovský was of Slovak heritage

    • @nimai7074
      @nimai7074 2 роки тому +24

      It is likely that he labeled himself as both a Pole and a Hungarian due to the concept of a Slovak culture not really existing at that time and because his father was a Slav, although living deep in Slovakia, was labeled as a Pole, being the closest Slavic culture to assign him to. But nonetheless, his father was born in Slovakia, lived in Slovakia and served in the Austrian army, his mother was a Hungarian noblewoman, so he was half-slovak and half-hungarian

    • @SurMikasMetin2PL
      @SurMikasMetin2PL 2 роки тому +56

      @@nimai7074 Maurycy Beniowski - described himself as a Pole and a Hungarian, so you are probably wrong

    • @Mijn24
      @Mijn24 2 роки тому +1

      @@nimai7074 was he bad? I can’t find too much information about him but Poland hasn’t had any official colonies

    • @nimai7074
      @nimai7074 2 роки тому +18

      @@Mijn24 No, he wasn't bad at all, he was a successful explorer and arguably his biggest achievement was being elected as the first King of Madagascar by the local tribe leaders, there's even a statue of him in Madagascar

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 3 роки тому +447

    “The oppressed, instead of striving for liberation, tend themselves to become oppressors.”
    - Paulo Freire

    • @matheusalves5160
      @matheusalves5160 3 роки тому +20

      Wise man, the sad truth of power

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 роки тому +26

      Revenge vs forgiveness. One is easier than the others

    • @Gala-yp8nx
      @Gala-yp8nx 3 роки тому +6

      Soviet Russia case and point.

    • @vestty5802
      @vestty5802 3 роки тому +47

      Common amongst every immigrant group fleeing persecution. From Scots highlanders , French huegenots and Irish Catholics all of whom fled persecution but persecuted the natives of the country to which they fled

    • @vestty5802
      @vestty5802 3 роки тому +30

      @Zoomer Waffen found a 13 year old nazi edgelord don’t worry kid I was there once too lmao

  • @arthurimona5901
    @arthurimona5901 2 роки тому +67

    Dang this was nice. I'm not polish by heritage, but definitely by heart. I came to really admire their intelligence and courage during their oppression by hitler, however i'm learning a lot more, and it just makes me proud of them. We even have a highway called Boluminski Highway on the island of New Ireland (probably the oldest in Papua New Guinea). Boluminski of course, obviously is a polish name. Great video! Much love from Polska!

  • @yvanguillaume8975
    @yvanguillaume8975 3 роки тому +95

    Excellent historical research. I've seen various videos about Cazale and was stunned to see the Polish descendants who are now purely Haitians in their mannerisms , I left the country in 1981. Haiti has as much of a rich history as its share of unfortunate trouble.

  • @rogerdines6244
    @rogerdines6244 3 роки тому +119

    This definitely will bear a second viewing, but thank you so much for digging around in such an obscure corner of history: the sad history of both Haiti and Poland deserve to be better known.

  • @adankmeme651
    @adankmeme651 2 роки тому +71

    Germany, Russia and austria after ww1: how the hell are you guys alive?
    Poland: remember me? :)

  • @krzysztofsafin7505
    @krzysztofsafin7505 2 роки тому +27

    I'm polish and I love this movie :) I like to see people form Haiti come and visit Poland :D We have a great history!

  • @Klauserasme
    @Klauserasme 3 роки тому +337

    fun fact:haiti is the first country to regonize greece independence from the ottoman empire the president at the time (petion) provided coffee to finance the war with the ottoman

    • @isaiahfraser2968
      @isaiahfraser2968 3 роки тому +38

      @Zoomer Waffen no

    • @Klauserasme
      @Klauserasme 3 роки тому +54

      @Zoomer Waffen nah more like french genocide

    • @RealMothman98
      @RealMothman98 3 роки тому +64

      @Zoomer Waffen Being a racist twat is entirely unnecessary. Did the Haitians genocide whites in Haiti? Yes. No one is arguing this fact. However, Western Europeans also committed genocide against the Africans on their own continent. There exists no people group on Earth with clean hands. The point of studying history is to understand past mistakes to build better futures. The men and women who committed such acts are long dead, let the hatred die with them.

    • @ReaperCH90
      @ReaperCH90 3 роки тому +35

      @@RealMothman98 why would you even try to have a reasonable argument with an account like that?

    • @RealMothman98
      @RealMothman98 3 роки тому +22

      @@ReaperCH90 The ability to change is a very important part of being human. If we begin to believe individuals cannot be changed, then they will only drift further away from the rest of us. "Keep in mind, when two enemies are talking, they're not fighting, they're talking. They might be yelling and screaming, but at least they're talking. It's when the talking ceases that the ground becomes fertile for violence."

  • @fatmandoobius
    @fatmandoobius 3 роки тому +104

    I don’t think there’s a nations that’s a rougher life than Poland. It feels there isn’t a century or less they don’t get invaded and have to defend their country. Yet they just keep going and though they’ve had it the roughest I’d argue they are certainly up their with the toughest.

    • @dragnarok4286
      @dragnarok4286 3 роки тому +11

      Yeah mongols,ottomans,Russians,Germans,
      Austrians they fought alot for their freedom but at least the black death spared them

    • @zbigniewp1810
      @zbigniewp1810 3 роки тому +7

      Armenians are a strong candidate as well.

    • @warreneckels4945
      @warreneckels4945 2 роки тому +12

      @@dragnarok4286 1689: Sobieki drives the Ottomans from the gates of Vienna, sparing it a Turkish occupation.
      1772: The Australians pay Poland back by taking some territory
      1795: ...then by wiping it off the map.
      Maybe Poland took the wrong side in 1689, though these events are crucial to the Polish Martyrdom Complex, without which no nation in Central or Southeastern Europe feels complete. (The Ottomans wanted Rome, so they would have turned left...)

    • @krzysztofsaa2997
      @krzysztofsaa2997 2 роки тому +4

      Century? you mean decade?

    • @fatmandoobius
      @fatmandoobius 2 роки тому

      @@krzysztofsaa2997I think I'd actually intended to write half century and forgot to go back and amend, I'd say decade is a bit much but probably not in some eras.

  • @christiangerard1
    @christiangerard1 2 роки тому +62

    few clarifications from a Haitian here:
    - Wouj: refers to this lighter slightly clayish tone that people with European ancestry in the Caribbean will have often. it's mostly an old differentiator that survived as a descriptive term. it varies in shade. it also as it was mentioned below does probably refer to how the whites looked being in the hot sun all day back in the 19th century before their kids would be born with extra pigment and it survived from there, redefined every generation to match what further mixing ended up looking like down the line.
    - Blan/white: in Haiti doesn't really refer to race exclusively but to provenance most often. we do call white people "blan" but black people from anywhere else are also "blan". Also side note we don't actually think people become black because of the sun or by immersion, although aware of race we don't really spend the majority of our time focused on people's race but rather their social allegiances, motivations and interests (monetary or otherwise). Fun fact, Haitian administrative documents don't ever ask to identify race, only nationality.
    Map fe Krakow: to do something neatly, more specifically refers to to be precise and disciplined (some say like the germans/polish are said to be)

    • @lr44x13
      @lr44x13 2 роки тому +6

      "wouj" sounds really simmilar to polish "róż" which means pink.

    • @tariuskosmos2969
      @tariuskosmos2969 2 роки тому

      Well said brother

    • @supernt7852
      @supernt7852 3 місяці тому

      @@lr44x13’wouj’ comes from the French word ‘rouge’ that means red, which sounds the same as róż in Polish except that French uses a difference R sound

  • @SuaveCerealKiller
    @SuaveCerealKiller 3 роки тому +40

    I had no idea there was a Polish history in Haiti. A very well done video and I'm happy to have learned something.

  • @tatr150
    @tatr150 2 роки тому +35

    Speaking of the Polish and Haitian relations in history it's also worth to remember the feats of a certain US Navy petty officer of Polish descent named Faustin Edmond Wirkus who once ruled the Haitian island named La Gonave. He passed into history as Faustin II, the so-called Polish King of Haiti/La Gonave, crowned by Queen Timemenne of La Gonâve whose life he happened to save earlier on. A very intriguing story worth googling up for more details.

    • @stanleydouge2803
      @stanleydouge2803 Рік тому

      A Vodoun Queen lol not the actual monarch of the island

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@stanleydouge2803whose the real one? you still not satisfied after you and your 12 other ally's extorted money out of Haiti through gunboat diplomacy, aka chicken fight?

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@stanleydouge2803gunboat diplomacy mean stay offshore and make threats

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@stanleydouge2803and did you also had yellow fever trouble in Guadeloupe, Martinique, st Lucia, Trinidad, west Africa? of course not, only in Haiti, were you got defeated not once, but twice. yellow fever aka save face story.

  • @Michelle__.
    @Michelle__. 2 роки тому +17

    Thank you for sharing this. My grandfather is a polish -haitian 😊

  • @crimson5664
    @crimson5664 2 роки тому +81

    4:09 Kościuszko was the General of Continental Army of first 13 colonies in the New World and helped then to establish West Point Academy to train officers. He also designed their first forts to defend territories from English army attacks along side with another Polish General Pułaski and many other Polish soldiers. They are Heroes of Two Nations.

    • @nieczerwony
      @nieczerwony 2 роки тому +21

      He was also bug supporter of freeing black slaves. He freed all his black servants gave by US gov. He left his estate and money to buy freedom for them.His servant Agripa Haull was his best friend. Kościuszko poontes Jefferson as executor of his last will (buy blacks slaves freedom back), but he never did this.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      The polish legion in Haiti surrendered after they had lost 4500 out the 5000 soldier's that were sent there.

    • @crimson5664
      @crimson5664 Рік тому

      @@josephLindor-ki7op and? whats your point buddy? who even cares

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      @@crimson5664 I do.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      @@crimson5664 you most thrives on lies, don't you

  • @LordBitememan
    @LordBitememan 3 роки тому +116

    If and when you are so inclined to return to the topic it might be interesting to hear about the Polish (and Hungarian) volunteers in the American Revolution, given your mention of Kosciusko.

  • @PredixPL
    @PredixPL 3 роки тому +23

    Great video! And, as a Pole, I am really impressed by your Polish pronunciation. It ain't easy, I know, but you did it very well.

  • @5.7moy
    @5.7moy 3 роки тому +75

    “A certain small individual called Napoleon Bonaparte.”

    • @IlmarKiisk
      @IlmarKiisk 3 роки тому +15

      Despite him not actually being small. It was English/British propaganda that depicted him to be such.

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 3 роки тому +8

      @@IlmarKiisk yeah, he was above average height but his height was given in French imperial units which caused him to seem short when you consider the measurements as British units

    • @francescoboselli6033
      @francescoboselli6033 2 роки тому

      @@sundhaug92 also he wore simplest cap compared to others general at the time, who often had also showy panache, who make them seam more higher

  • @Amadeus_2061
    @Amadeus_2061 2 роки тому +6

    Sir, as a Pole, I must say you pronunciation is spot on. Impressed.

  • @lordDenis16
    @lordDenis16 3 роки тому +29

    To me they are still Poles despite the loss of contact with the motherland

  • @ewabear7
    @ewabear7 2 роки тому +5

    Greetings from Gdańsk, Poland

  • @PandoraFoxxBurlesque
    @PandoraFoxxBurlesque 3 роки тому +231

    I wonder if the red skin one could maybe come from it being considerable sunnier in Haiti than in Poland, so - as the Polish Haitians were white - the got extremely sunburned? It likely has a better explanation! ☺️

    • @matheusalves5160
      @matheusalves5160 3 роки тому +18

      Maybe, or maybe is their natural skin colour, in Brazil for example we use pardo (from leopardo - leopard) for the more yellish skinned persons, and they're generally mixed race. These more yellish/reddish skin can naturally occurs in mixed race people.

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 роки тому +28

      I'm a Pole... Polander and have not even a white skin but transparent.
      And I get red fast when I catch too much sun.

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 3 роки тому +20

      As a part Jamaican I can say yes it’s due to the skin whites get when sunburned. In the Caribbean blacks refer to whites as “Redbone” because you guys go reddish.

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 роки тому +14

      @@makeytgreatagain6256 I understand it.
      That's what's happening when you have no melatonin protection.
      And I actually know some Pakistani guys who are genuinely white but they tan very quickly and intensively.

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 3 роки тому +14

      @@KAESowicz whites do have melatonin otherwise they wouldn’t tan. However in very small amounts obviously

  • @radicalrecordings
    @radicalrecordings 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks Hilbert, this was awesome. I love how your English has improved over the years. You were an expert when you started, but you’ve moved into native level pronunciation

  • @hilltroneye
    @hilltroneye 22 години тому

    Hi Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱. Thanks for your very informed video. Thank you for your work

  • @camh1149
    @camh1149 2 роки тому +12

    Wonderful video !!! Very well done and well researched ! I am originally from Haiti, and fell in love with the country's history thanks to my parents transmitting to me the love of the country as a child. You have highlighted some important details that I'm sure, most Haitians ignore about their own history. Thank you a thousand times !

  • @alexelshami8723
    @alexelshami8723 3 роки тому +38

    you kept your word, I read about them since you mentioned them last time and now this, keeping the little details alive!

  • @AB-xf7li
    @AB-xf7li 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for covering this

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 3 роки тому +5

    this is such a fascinating and obscure story. Thanks for covering it

  • @rogerdines6244
    @rogerdines6244 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you: this was well worth the second viewing-many new rabbit holes to explore!

  • @Grel107
    @Grel107 3 роки тому +88

    1:33 Poniatowski was an elected King not prince, Commonwealth was still a kingdom at that time ;) Greaj job pronouncing PL names. well done.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 роки тому +6

      I think this might be the case of using the word 'prince' as the general term for ruler/member of the royalty. I believe I saw it being used that way in English for example in reference to the candidates taking part in the Polish-Lithuanian elections "Many princes vied for the Polish throne... blah, blah". Of course, some of them were actual princes, but poor Staś Poniatowski was definitely not one of them and didn't have any fancy title before becoming the King of Poland.
      Edit: plus Stanisław August Poniatowski is later in the video properly referred to as King.

    • @TimeTraveller625
      @TimeTraveller625 2 роки тому +8

      @@Artur_M. he didnt have any fancy title, cause titles like count or baron were nonexistent and banned by law in PLC - all nobles were considering themselves equal citizens of the country (referred as a republic with a king), and king was Roman-style primus inter pares, the first among equals. There were old style titles like kasztelan, but they were strictly traditional and honorary. Any real influence was given only by money and owned land. The great aristocrat houses like Radziwiłł, Koniecpolski, Sapieha or Pac were given titles by the other monarchs (mostly counts), since they had to "have something" while in contact with the rest of Europe, but still - they could not use it while home.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 2 роки тому +3

      @@TimeTraveller625 Yeah, I know. A bunch of families, that claimed descent from royalty (mostly the Lithuanian Gediminids and Rus Rurikids), also traditionally used the titles of princes. This included the powerful Czartoryski family, that happened to be political patrons of Poniatowski. But this tittle also didn't give them any special privileges.

    • @przemekkozlowski7835
      @przemekkozlowski7835 2 роки тому +2

      @@Artur_M. The usage of the title in Poland was not always comparable to that in Western Europe. I remember it seeing it used to refer to some of the powerful magnate families In Lithuania who might be classified as dukes or grand dukes.

    • @Spacey_key
      @Spacey_key 2 роки тому

      Stanisław August Poniatowski by God's grace and the will of people King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania... Technicly he was prince

  • @darkmattersproject2951
    @darkmattersproject2951 3 роки тому +5

    Fantastic information

  • @SuperCaelum
    @SuperCaelum 2 роки тому +1

    Absolute banger of a video, very educational. Thank you!

  • @faegirdariusson2151
    @faegirdariusson2151 3 роки тому +67

    I really appreciate pronouncing my mother tongue properly instated of butchering it as it's usually the case on the English internet.
    Tadeusz Kościuszko would be proud.
    Jan Henryk Dąbrowski was spot on, totally could have believe ye are a pole.

  • @kris5885
    @kris5885 2 роки тому +16

    big thanks to you for a very factual and honest telling of the history of Haiti. sadly a lot of of UA-cam historians demonize or downplay our revolution. you just earned a new sub🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 2 роки тому

      Greetings from Poland

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      So you just gonna believe the account of the looser? ayyanah bello, Haitian historian and other Haitian historians denied this lied. Out of 5000 polish soldier's, 0nly 500 made it out after their surrendered. out of all the colony's of France, did you ever wondered how come Haiti was the only place the french had trouble with yellow fever? not Martinique, Guadeloupe, st Lucia, west Africa, but Haiti, the only place they got defeated twice.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Рік тому

      ​@@plrc4593the great deceit: the polish legion in Haiti. the 500 that were left surrendered.

    • @sowaveysuyat
      @sowaveysuyat 8 місяців тому

      @@josephLindor-ki7op surrendered like the losing French ones did? yet French were slaughtered and the Poles were sparred and honored by Dessalines? Lol you sound jealous and salty. The truth is right from the horses mouth itself, written by Haitis own leaders, not your colonial propaganda.

  • @carterhouston7569
    @carterhouston7569 3 роки тому +7

    Appreciate the informative video

  • @allanpeters367
    @allanpeters367 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this video. My family is haitian with polish heritage and this was a very interesting video.

  • @garrymoise
    @garrymoise 2 місяці тому

    Great work with this video.

  • @KevinElamMusic
    @KevinElamMusic Рік тому +3

    such an unbelievably cool topic! I had never heard about this historical link... thank you!

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai 3 роки тому +4

    Magnificent Video

  • @7seasrobert
    @7seasrobert 2 роки тому +1

    Very impressed with your presentations....keep up your great work

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate Місяць тому

    This was a very insightful video, thank you very much.

  • @Aur-ki1qu
    @Aur-ki1qu 2 роки тому +9

    Black madonna / Lady of czestochowa is apparently a very sacred icon in Poland, many account of miracles & protecting the nations over the centuries. Many go there to pray apparently, including my mom when she was young.

  • @narvuntien
    @narvuntien 3 роки тому +22

    So that's how you say his name! Kosciuszko! Here in Australia where his name adorns our tallest mountain Kozi Os Co.

    • @Got-lander
      @Got-lander 2 роки тому

      I was listening for that specific word in the Midnight Oil song and it took me a while to pick it up eventually ;) Quite different indeed…

  • @meanangel8114
    @meanangel8114 2 роки тому

    Very good content. I really appreciate the quality of the material used. Thank you.

  • @satyr1349
    @satyr1349 3 роки тому +4

    One of your most fascinating!

  • @boozejunky
    @boozejunky 3 роки тому +9

    Fascinating!

  • @peetee1799
    @peetee1799 2 роки тому +2

    Very interesting, good job

  • @jasina556
    @jasina556 2 роки тому

    Hilbert I have to say that pronunciation was amazing and brought smile on my face!

  • @williamthompson2941
    @williamthompson2941 3 роки тому +5

    good job

  • @mirellaczajkowska-turek5819
    @mirellaczajkowska-turek5819 2 роки тому +4

    Great history:))) thanks so much, also for great pronunciation of all Polish words👌🎉💪😊

  • @jolantamasete4270
    @jolantamasete4270 Рік тому +1

    ❤ Great presentation, I love it ❤️

  • @shawnespinoza9300
    @shawnespinoza9300 Рік тому

    Very well researched! Excellent video.

  • @Mijn24
    @Mijn24 2 роки тому +77

    Tadesuz kosciuzsko also urged Thomas Jefferson to free the slaves in America.

    • @Litwinus
      @Litwinus 2 роки тому +9

      Yes, but Jeferson didn't do it.

    • @grash4435
      @grash4435 2 роки тому +18

      He bought some slaves and free them and pay for their education.

    • @PR_nick
      @PR_nick 2 роки тому

      Yes he is. He was this "West Point" defender.

    • @slavlivesmatter7190
      @slavlivesmatter7190 2 роки тому

      That's a mistake

    • @TheOstry322
      @TheOstry322 2 роки тому

      *Tadeusz Kościuszko

  • @eljanrimsa5843
    @eljanrimsa5843 3 роки тому +10

    Great stuff. Haiti is a fascinating country for historians, a showcase for what could have happened in a lot of places but only happened there. And now everything, people, language, religion, historic relations with other nations, is a bit different and special.

  • @takisobieblues
    @takisobieblues 2 роки тому +1

    very good content, thank you as a Pole and history lover. And I'm so impressed of your pronunciation of Polish words and names. Good job, your channel is already subscribed.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 8 місяців тому +2

    It's one of the most beautiful stories I've ever heard!

  • @Falcon364
    @Falcon364 2 роки тому +3

    This was fascinating! Can you do one on the Shinsengumi next?

  • @plrc4593
    @plrc4593 2 роки тому +6

    Greetings for Haiti from Poland.

    • @deechallenge1323
      @deechallenge1323 2 роки тому +1

      Love y'all

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 2 роки тому

      @@deechallenge1323 Are you Haitian? :) What's the current situation on Haiti?

    • @deechallenge1323
      @deechallenge1323 2 роки тому +1

      @@plrc4593 yes i'm. we no longer have a president, I can say that the country is not in charge at the moment.

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 2 роки тому +1

      @@deechallenge1323 I feel very sorry for Haiti. Due to beautiful Polish-Haitian history I wish Haiti all the best.

    • @deechallenge1323
      @deechallenge1323 2 роки тому

      @@plrc4593my respect for y'all 🤝🏽

  • @spherical89
    @spherical89 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for that, it was great ;)

  • @Pa_blito
    @Pa_blito 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing video! Really interesting stuff

  • @mikoajbadzielewski3396
    @mikoajbadzielewski3396 2 роки тому +5

    A++ for pronunciation

  • @stevensonbak
    @stevensonbak 3 роки тому +38

    Damn Hilbert, that was some mighty fine rootin' tootin' Polish pronunciation if I do say so myself, yessir

  • @10bkpm
    @10bkpm 2 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @andreoates8405
    @andreoates8405 3 роки тому +4

    Fantastic history lesson thank you so much call bring it is lost history I’m a little smarter 🙀because of you, thank you so much great job💕☺️

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 роки тому +65

    *Hey!* I’m actually average for the time!

  • @acstark0215
    @acstark0215 2 роки тому

    Nicely done!

  • @TheBuchmajster
    @TheBuchmajster 2 роки тому

    Dope vid dope content

  • @aureliusverusgaiusmagnus8483
    @aureliusverusgaiusmagnus8483 3 роки тому +9

    You have no idea how happy I am because you removed your face mask from your Channel logo I'm so ecstatic I'm a really really really happy I just want to thank the channel owner wholeheartedly because that really really makes me happy thank you

    • @aureliusverusgaiusmagnus8483
      @aureliusverusgaiusmagnus8483 3 роки тому +1

      @@charlieboy-dh1ns I don't know I just don't like it because it's a constant manifestation of what the entire world has been through for a year-and-a-half

    • @jerrell1169
      @jerrell1169 3 роки тому +7

      @@charlieboy-dh1ns Lmao no, they just did it as a little in-joke/reference. UA-cam did not enforce it in any way haha.

  • @user-uq7io2os3r
    @user-uq7io2os3r 3 роки тому +3

    Many thanks for nice video👍 I bow to your great Polish pronouncecion

  • @exothermicforstability7915
    @exothermicforstability7915 2 роки тому

    I appreciate this.

  • @sonofamortician
    @sonofamortician 2 роки тому

    your videos are amazing. never knew about this.

  • @elemperadordemexico
    @elemperadordemexico 3 роки тому +27

    Polish Mexicans during ww2 are interesting to look up

  • @TheStickCollector
    @TheStickCollector 3 роки тому +8

    Neat

  • @arvocadotm1075
    @arvocadotm1075 2 роки тому

    Great Video!

  • @arvedui89
    @arvedui89 3 роки тому +1

    Great video as always but terrible buffering (unfortunately) as most of the times ;)

  • @alvaropenademiguel2308
    @alvaropenademiguel2308 3 роки тому +8

    Nice video!
    You could talk about the spanish troops Napoleon sent to Denmark before invading Spain (being this one of the reasons why the Spanish army couldn't do much against the French forces). It's a very interesting and unknown piece of history.

  • @WyomingTraveler
    @WyomingTraveler 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent, you did exceptionally good research

  • @Shinbusan
    @Shinbusan 2 роки тому +2

    awesome document. I know this episode, but not in such detailed matter.
    Thank you!

  • @sebastianrudnicki3949
    @sebastianrudnicki3949 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @curtisthomas2670
    @curtisthomas2670 2 роки тому +8

    Also forgot to mention the important part played by independent Haiti in the fight for Independence from Spain of the former colonies of Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru. After the revolutionaries suffered early defeat at the hands of the Spanish many were given refuge in Haiti then given training, finance, supplies, arms and ships to return to the mainland to resume battle on the condition that they free the slaves in any colony they liberated.

  • @scandathepole723
    @scandathepole723 Рік тому +7

    Glad to see my country fight to free the Haitians 🇵🇱🤝🇭🇹

    • @heniakonas9439
      @heniakonas9439 Рік тому

      With hindsight would have been better left to the French.

  • @allikhaur
    @allikhaur 2 роки тому

    Truly interesting...

  • @Sympatiko85
    @Sympatiko85 3 роки тому +2

    great wor k. thank you

  • @Suli5241
    @Suli5241 2 роки тому +3

    I feel the need to visit Cazale :D

  • @paxvera5199
    @paxvera5199 2 роки тому +7

    Fascinating. Thank you for very educational video.
    Sometimes I am wondering if there is any country in the world Polish people didn't fight for independence and left some mark.
    Greetings from Ontario Canada