A Tale of Two Islands

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  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat Рік тому +9679

    I finally made it into a hoser video. Now there is nothing left to do but retire.

    • @h0ser
      @h0ser  Рік тому +1631

      That Mr. Beat guy deserves an Emmy for this performance

    • @yassinedahbi7727
      @yassinedahbi7727 Рік тому +119

      @@h0ser you 2 deserve a million subs

    • @kanyewest2828
      @kanyewest2828 Рік тому +546

      give me money mr breast

    • @cr1ym
      @cr1ym Рік тому +38

      Big fan of both of your work!

    • @Rolando_Cueva
      @Rolando_Cueva Рік тому +33

      ​@@kanyewest2828 breast lol

  • @rilke3266
    @rilke3266 Рік тому +3843

    When I went to Cap-Haitien in High School, it made me realize that "poor" in the U.S. is very different from poor in other countries. It wasn't even the poorest region in the country.

    • @moraolmdg12344
      @moraolmdg12344 Рік тому +845

      Poor in the U.S. is middle-high class in most latin american countries lmao

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 Рік тому +52

      @@moraolmdg12344 yep, lol

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 Рік тому +68

      how about the homeless, druggy in america?

    • @the64thcucumber
      @the64thcucumber Рік тому +429

      ​@@rizkyadiyanto7922 A small percentage of people in the US is homeless. Pretty much everyone in Haiti would be considered homeless to some degree.

    • @rafangille
      @rafangille Рік тому +184

      @@rizkyadiyanto7922 homeless people make up a very small part of the population, and even they have access to public services

  • @rpd0825
    @rpd0825 Рік тому +5158

    As a Dominican, I think the polarizing situation on the island isn’t highlighted enough, nice video!

    • @JannesJustus
      @JannesJustus Рік тому +90

      At the time of writing, you couldn’t even have finished the video 🤨

    • @jtgd
      @jtgd Рік тому +23

      Both between Haiti and Dominicans themselves

    • @rpd0825
      @rpd0825 Рік тому +178

      @@JannesJustus because I know it’ll be a nice video

    • @Rolando_Cueva
      @Rolando_Cueva Рік тому +10

      Vox ya hizo un vídeo sobre este tema, ya lo viste?

    • @lutho7693
      @lutho7693 Рік тому

      Also weren't a huge part of Haitians genocided in the 50's?

  • @MrMrphelps
    @MrMrphelps Рік тому +2574

    Haiti being forced to pay France back, regardless of how little it may have been, was an absolute travesty of justice

    • @MrMrphelps
      @MrMrphelps Рік тому +442

      @@dexterkrammer1089 damn dude, that's crazy. Should the U.S. pay Britain reparations too?

    • @wildg7477
      @wildg7477 Рік тому +76

      Should all old colonies pay reparations? Lmao

    • @Steve848976
      @Steve848976 Рік тому +1

      We need to stop with Haiti paid France money back speech. The real enemy of Haiti is the USA, Haiti could rebound and make more money than what they paid France. USA is the one that prevent haiti move forward they are the one that installs president in Haiti for their gain. All those gang members in Haiti working for them.

    • @deenil
      @deenil Рік тому +264

      ​@@dexterkrammer1089this is one of the wildest Things I've ever read on the internet. I guess India and Vietnam should pay it back too, USA as well. I'm technically everyone should be paying reparations to Italy for the Roman Empire. And all of South America needs to pay Europe.

    • @MrMrphelps
      @MrMrphelps Рік тому +65

      @dexterkrammer1089 I reiterate my question: should the U.S. pay reparations to Britain?

  • @Pikablast
    @Pikablast Рік тому +973

    As a Dominican, awesome to see people talk about the history of it, my parents grew up in the 60s-70s, so it's cool to understand it more as they moved from there after I was born.

    • @skygamer8388
      @skygamer8388 Рік тому +3

      Hola :D

    • @letsgorodriguez
      @letsgorodriguez Рік тому +6

      Rarity to see anime or even Pokémon pfp for a Dominican

    • @rebasado9514
      @rebasado9514 Рік тому +39

      @@letsgorodriguez what do you mean, we love anime so much here we even got movies on the cinema from anime and also pokemon, even though is not as loved as dragon ball or naruto is still very respected here my man

    • @JaimeRodríguez-q7w
      @JaimeRodríguez-q7w Рік тому +4

      @@rebasado9514 anime is bad for you. It rots the brain. Not a flex.

    • @LupusOrdo
      @LupusOrdo Рік тому +12

      @@rebasado9514 bah, en todos los paises latinoamericanos es popular, estais ademas mucho mas cerca de japon que España

  • @cristiandiaz8497
    @cristiandiaz8497 Рік тому +1116

    I’m currently in DR for the first time and I’m hesitant to use the word rich. Yes there are many rich people and the economy is 10x Haiti’s however I am taken aback by the low wages and all the poverty I’ve seen on this trip, I thought it would be less, more akin to Puerto Rico. Taking the Santo Domingo teleférico/cable car over the slums was eye-opening.

    • @ifailedenglish5974
      @ifailedenglish5974 Рік тому +73

      exactly, there’s so many people living in poverty

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Рік тому +1

      Puerto Rico is a sad story on its own. The island is basically run by a colonial regime oh im sorry "management commission" that suspended minimum wage and basically ensures that Puerto Ricans who stay on the island remain poor. Republicans use culture war scare tactics ("Democrats are going to abort all your babies and turn your kids gay") to curb the statehood movement because if PR became a state the federal government would be forced to actually deal with its problems and it would gain likely two Democratic senators and 5 likely blue leaning congessional districts.

    • @dragano556
      @dragano556 Рік тому +185

      @@ifailedenglish5974 most of my Dominican friends there make less than 350 a month and the average in the country is only 400 a month and people talking about rich? Just because a bunch of foreigners coming there buying up all the people land driving GDP numbers up don’t make the people rich.

    • @javiruiz8365
      @javiruiz8365 Рік тому +53

      @@dragano556this is why I was confused! I’m from California and moved to NYC and this is the first time I have ever met Dominicans or Puerto Ricans and the Dominican guys that would cut my hair said it was very poor in the Dominican Republic. I’m confused

    • @randombaguette
      @randombaguette Рік тому

      Yeah that title is completely clickbait. Dominican Republic is not rich at all. It’s just as bad as Haiti. They’re down there because of their former colonizers.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Рік тому +1042

    Says a lot about Hispaniola's history when you can see where the border is on a Satellite map because of the lack of forest cover on the Haiti side. Fun facts about Haiti: So Haiti in 1822 was the first country to recognize the then newly-formed Greece during the fight against the Ottomans, even sending 45 tons of coffee for Greece to sell in order to buy arms and a hundred Haitian men to Greece to help and fight (but they never made it because they all died on the way), but another interesting thing is how the POLES helped Haiti gain independence.
    In 1802, Napoleon dispatched a Polish legion of around 5,200 men to join the French forces in Saint-Domingue to stop the rebellion. By helping the French, they hoped that France would support Polish independence. But when they arrived, they soon learned why they were really there, to stop people from gaining their freedom. It was something they could relate to. So some Poles ended up changing sides, while others intentionally didn't follow orders from the French to eliminate prisoners they captured. After Haiti won, the Poles were spared and were recognized as full citizens. Today, the village of Cazale is home to the descendants of this legion.

    • @mountainous_port
      @mountainous_port Рік тому +58

      Wow these are interesting facts!

    • @bocchithean-cap3404
      @bocchithean-cap3404 Рік тому +1

      ​@aldogoopio another factoid
      All their descendent were killed and raped

    • @HM-iy3dc
      @HM-iy3dc Рік тому +58

      That defiant attitude towards any type of higher power is still a part of the polish national character 😂

    • @HM-iy3dc
      @HM-iy3dc Рік тому +11

      @scarletgoat173 true, the exception is the Vatican

    • @gentlebreeze6570
      @gentlebreeze6570 Рік тому +34

      can we find a place colonized by Franch is now rich or developing well, Britsh colonized America,New Zeland, Austrilia, Singapo,Hongkong,South Africa,India... and look at the place colonized by France: south east Asia, West Africa, so as Haiti

  • @danielholland4520
    @danielholland4520 Рік тому +481

    born and raised in south florida, ive met plenty of haitians, everyone has been so nice and so genuine; my heart breaks for that country, they cant catch a break.. if its not corruption and gangs, its nature with earthquakes and hurricanes, they havent even had a CHANCE to get back on their feet. i hope they do well

    • @javiruiz8365
      @javiruiz8365 Рік тому

      Not in NYC! They will steal from you.

    • @Stophatingjitt
      @Stophatingjitt Рік тому +20

      That’s cuz they’re in America. Every group of people know not to fuck up in America

    • @NestTheKiller
      @NestTheKiller Рік тому

      Nature doesn't have anything to do with it, corruption is the root of all evils

    • @sheiladelarosa_
      @sheiladelarosa_ Рік тому +15

      They only behave like that in the US. Read about the recent situation in Mexico.

    • @angelgregio
      @angelgregio Рік тому +7

      ​@@sheiladelarosa_I've heard the opposite. They're very "criminally" in South Florida and not too bad in Tijuana.

  • @Jane-qh2yd
    @Jane-qh2yd Рік тому +2973

    Never ask a man his salary
    Never ask a woman their weight
    Never ask a Dominican what they think about Haitians

    • @prod.jimmyhd
      @prod.jimmyhd Рік тому +453

      Yeah it's heavy. Well Haitians aren't fond of dominicans either but they don't make hating Dominicans their whole identity. On the other hand, the only independence date dominicans celebrate is the one from Haiti from what i've seen.

    • @superburrito9797
      @superburrito9797 Рік тому +721

      ​​@@prod.jimmyhd yeah cause the Haitian government was brutal asf. Dominicans never wanted to be a part of Haiti, and were in process of joining Gran Colombia, when the Haitians invaded.

    • @alexanderdelacruz3162
      @alexanderdelacruz3162 Рік тому +321

      ​@@prod.jimmyhd The other occupations did not threaten the existence of the Dominican people.

    • @jay1jayf
      @jay1jayf Рік тому +464

      @@prod.jimmyhd dominican's identity is not based on hating haitians, lmao.

    • @CristianmrWuno
      @CristianmrWuno Рік тому

      I’m Dominican and I don’t have anything against Haitians, in fact apart from the boomers who hate Haitians cuz of ignorance, many Dominicans don’t hate Haitians but they hate/dislike the idea of Haitian immigration, and it makes sense cuz Haitian women have like 7 children out of nowhere when they see a Dominican hospital lol

  • @osheridan
    @osheridan Рік тому +235

    The Dominican Republic is quite an interesting place! Cool to see you make a video about it

    • @skygamer8388
      @skygamer8388 Рік тому +13

      Also this video explains better than the classes they give us! Here (in RD) they just talk about our part of the history but never eealy say what happend to Haití

    • @lbaxel9122
      @lbaxel9122 Рік тому +1

      @@skygamer8388obviously education is going to focus in our country

  • @YMTStudioX
    @YMTStudioX Рік тому +1272

    I can’t believe he ignored the fact that there are 12 million penguins in Antarctica, and there are 36,686 people in Monaco, so if the penguins of Antarctica decided to invade Monaco, each person would have to fight over 300 penguins.

    • @WeedShaggy
      @WeedShaggy Рік тому +136

      Hail the Republic of Antarctica 🐧

    • @pylotheric9777
      @pylotheric9777 Рік тому +41

      Why would you hurt a penguin anyway

    • @SpektakOne
      @SpektakOne Рік тому +57

      But France militarily defends Monaco, so you’re looking at five French people per penguin.

    • @craftah
      @craftah Рік тому +46

      ​@@pylotheric9777 so if penguins invaded you you would just let them kill you

    • @DoNotEatPoo
      @DoNotEatPoo Рік тому +8

      A couple decades ago I started a non-profit project called P.E.P.P. (Polar Exchange Preservation Program), where we transport 50% of the polar bears to the South Pole, and 50% of the Penguins to the North Pole. So far it's been wildly successful for the polar bears - not sure why the penguins keep disappearing though:(

  • @karlpark8575
    @karlpark8575 Рік тому +122

    I've been to DR many times because of good weather and friendly Dominicans. They are very welcoming and easy going folks. It's not perfect but I feel that they are heading in the right direction. For Haiti, I've been told that the best of Haitians are in Montreal. So sad. It is so dangerous even missionaries and charity organizations are advised to stay away.

    • @079Francvs
      @079Francvs 8 місяців тому +8

      that's the reality.
      Is not a perfect country but it's going on the right direction.
      the IMF said DR will be an advanced economy in 4 decades and that's something we should feel proud.

    • @guyfauks2576
      @guyfauks2576 4 місяці тому +1

      @@079Francvsimagine trusting the IMF

    • @079Francvs
      @079Francvs 4 місяці тому

      @@guyfauks2576 What should I trust, the statistics that you make at home?
      All international organizations said the same thing, even the UN and the World Bank.
      The IMF's prediction became obsolete months after I wrote this comment, since the Dominican government developed a new 12-year development plan that contemplates doubling the GDP, carrying out a tax reform that would improve tax collection and thus lower the risk of foreign debt, tripling salaries, continuing to improve in indicators such as health, education, security, defense, electricity generation and the fight against corruption.
      In these last 4 years we are at our best because we have improved a lot in those indicators year after year...
      This time it is predicted that we will reach the development that Portugal has (for example), from here to the year 2036 (12 years)... Portugal has a GDP per capita of approximately 28 thousand dollars and adjusted to GDP PPP (local prices) that would be 48 thousand dollars... we will have exactly the same on that date. It is common for the DR to double the GDP every 12 years, so it is not a prediction without any logical basis, it was just necessary to make a reform to better distribute the wealth of the economy in better salaries and public services. The now obsolete IMF prediction was made based on whether we would not make any reforms.
      You can expand that information by searching in other sources.
      In my opinion we are doing quite well, much better than the video explains, that is the general feeling of the population here in DR. I think those predictions are very realistic because they are almost always right... there is a long history of them getting them right.

    • @079Francvs
      @079Francvs 4 місяці тому +1

      @@guyfauks2576 Well, it's not just the IMF that says it. Almost all the respectable international and financial organizations, such as the UN and the World Bank, say it... but the IMF has been very accurate in other predictions...
      But months after my comment, that IMF prediction became outdated because the Dominican government modified its national development strategy, which contemplates doubling GDP in 12 years, improving wealth distribution, a necessary fiscal reform, tripling salaries, etc. etc. etc. The IMF projection was without those improvements in administration.
      In addition, the Dominican Republic recently found oil and gas, more than 500 million barrels... and exploration continues because it may amount to billions of barrels.
      So it is currently believed that the Dominican Republic can reach full development in 12 years at the same level as Portugal is currently at if everything goes according to plan.

  • @LietueantGreek
    @LietueantGreek Рік тому +906

    Haiti's history is preety sad same as Dominican but they try a little bit to became a better place
    Fun fact for Haiti: Haiti was the first nation to the world to recognize Greece as an independent nation in the beginning of the Greek Revolution of independence of 1821

    • @metal_pipe9764
      @metal_pipe9764 Рік тому +9

      It's Beginning not Begging

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Рік тому +97

      Haiti clearly didn't have the opportunity to start at the same level

    • @LietueantGreek
      @LietueantGreek Рік тому +4

      @@metal_pipe9764 thanks for telling bro

    • @NP3GA
      @NP3GA Рік тому +5

      Με πρόλαβες

    • @LietueantGreek
      @LietueantGreek Рік тому +3

      @@NP3GA δεν πειράζει αν θέλεις μπορείς να το γράψεις

  • @JoseLeybaDiaz
    @JoseLeybaDiaz Рік тому +163

    Just to be clear on something: Lately these types of videos titled on the realm of '' two opposites side of the same island; the rich and poor; the world difference in the same island'' and etc.
    As a Dominican I want to say this: The Dominican Republic is NOT a rich country. Nowhere near. You can see it for yourself if you go to the country. Lot of poors, dirt and economic discrepancies. Obviously this is not counting the RESORTS, where most tourist go. They do not reflect the realities of the nation.
    The DR is doing somewhat well compared to other countries in Central America, But let's please stop pretending it's a rich country because most politicians use this to try and fool the citizenry by making them believe everything is going okay.

    • @PabloRodriguez-ov9sx
      @PabloRodriguez-ov9sx Рік тому +21

      You seem to have misunderstood the video. It’s objective is to explain not why Dominicana is “rich” but why Haiti is an absolute shitshow, and why it’s so different from the moderately alright Dominican Republic

    • @JoseLeybaDiaz
      @JoseLeybaDiaz Рік тому +38

      @@PabloRodriguez-ov9sx That's the thing. It'S kind of a fake title and click-bait to show the word ''rich'' above the map of the DR. It is not. Moderately, yes. A better title would simply be ''why haiti is so chaotic compared to DR'' or ''why is the DR improving its economy while Haiti is not''. And the problem is, this is not the only video. Others also do the same.

    • @PabloRodriguez-ov9sx
      @PabloRodriguez-ov9sx Рік тому +15

      @@JoseLeybaDiaz True. However, it’s mostly a way to make it catch the eye. It may be a little bit clickbaity, but the video does actually specify it’s not that rich a country. It’s a moderately clickbaity way of catching your eye, as well as serve a good contrast with Haiti, and it does not risk someone being misinformed about the country if they actually watch the video. Still, you’re right.

    • @JoseLeybaDiaz
      @JoseLeybaDiaz Рік тому +5

      @@PabloRodriguez-ov9sx yeah you are right

    • @michelleaguirre6412
      @michelleaguirre6412 Рік тому +1

      Exactamente ❤

  • @Seth-mu3wo
    @Seth-mu3wo Рік тому +289

    I'm living here in Santiago Chile, and I took a tour this week. The guide was explaining the huge Haitian population here. It's very interesting how they tried giving disaster relief to them, but it didn't seem to work very well.

    • @baylorddoom2842
      @baylorddoom2842 Рік тому +40

      It's our corrupt politicians

    • @Seth-mu3wo
      @Seth-mu3wo Рік тому +23

      @@baylorddoom2842
      Every politician I've seen is corrupt. It's no good anywhere. I've lived in over 30 counties.
      Your new president is an interesting young man. I'm neither here nor there about him, but he's definitely interesting.

    • @quisqueyanguy120
      @quisqueyanguy120 Рік тому +14

      @@Seth-mu3wo He's trying but he's a typical social democrat and a lot of people thinks that he is too "soft".

    • @cringeginge7663
      @cringeginge7663 Рік тому

      @@Seth-mu3woit’s not binary. You aren’t just corrupt or not corrupt. Haitian politicians are far more corrupt than others

    • @Kali_Yuga_Surfer
      @Kali_Yuga_Surfer Рік тому +14

      @@baylorddoom2842 yeah because it surely isn't the people that are the problem.

  • @CristianPolanco-wt5om
    @CristianPolanco-wt5om Рік тому +242

    As a Dominican, I would like to add that the Dominican flag changes whether the country is at war or not. If the country is not at war, then we have our regular blue (on the top left), red (on the top right), red (on the bottom left), and blue (on the bottom right).
    If the country is at war then the flag gets flipped with red, blue, red, blue; following the same order I provided. The reason being, is that red represented blood when it was created and today it holds the same meaning.
    I liked the video, it really explains a lot of the economic difference and overall differences between the two countries.

    • @user-mo2xt1us5u
      @user-mo2xt1us5u Рік тому +9

      It’s not a big deal bro

    • @leandrocatorce2741
      @leandrocatorce2741 Рік тому +27

      It is similar with the Philippines 🇵🇭 where during peace time the blue is on top of the red, and during war time the flag is flipped

    • @hectorrivera6624
      @hectorrivera6624 Рік тому +1

      Who are you at war with?

    • @CristianPolanco-wt5om
      @CristianPolanco-wt5om Рік тому +12

      @@leandrocatorce2741 its cool to know that other countries adopt similar flag details

  • @mikeydamuffin
    @mikeydamuffin Рік тому +397

    im Haitian and the history was always sad to me. i remember in 2021 i was driving with my dad and got news about the earthquake (we live in new jersey). i was really worried for the country. i hope that it can be healthy and rich nation soon.

    • @thatsgreg3444
      @thatsgreg3444 Рік тому +39

      Im dominican and live in the cibao region, remember that day when my dad came home and turn on the tv just to watch the news about Haiti. I was really sad

    • @cashewnuttel9054
      @cashewnuttel9054 Рік тому +56

      I don't see Haiti becoming a healthy and rich nation soon, not unless they give up their sovereignty and allow themselves to be ran by either the Canadians or the British for at least half a century. The Canadians or the British can then set up a proper government, crack down on violence fast, deal with corruption that has paralyzed the nation, teach the people how to run the country, build things that Haiti needs, and in a few decades actually see prosperity.
      Haitians continuing to run Haiti will only bring more suffering to the Haitian people, and to the world because then Haitians will have to flee somewhere.

    • @francispham6113
      @francispham6113 Рік тому +3

      ​@@cashewnuttel9054 Maybe closer to half a century

    • @cashewnuttel9054
      @cashewnuttel9054 Рік тому +3

      @@francispham6113 Sorry, half a century is what I meant.

    • @phuckpootube6231
      @phuckpootube6231 Рік тому

      You have to be a christian to have that much stupid hope. Rich nation? LMFAO... How did independence work out so far? Over 200 years of ineptitude.

  • @Grix1s
    @Grix1s Рік тому +843

    Hello, I'm from the Dominican Republic. Imagine my surprise when hoser made a video about our island, when I have followed him for a very long while. I decided to point out several things as if they are true or false or if there is a lot more nuance than whatever research you do into us can provide, because culture is a thing. Be warned, I'm about to write a lot.
    To make a point zero, the relationship between our countries isn't explained well enough. Not due to a lack of research from hoser mind you, but because there is a ton of nuance to be mentioned. The Dominican Republic is basically the FIRST country called into action to help out Haiti when shit goes down, which is more often than you think. Our country is poor even if its said our economy is growing, VERY poor, but we STILL have to babysit Haiti till this day, to the point where there are international calls to just straight up unite as 1 island. No Dominican wants that. LITERALLY no Dominican wants it.
    Our "growth" is attributed to Tourism, people, not exports or outside work, which means all this money go to small elite groups. The normal citizen like me? Just so you have an idea, I work a professional tech job after graduating from a university and getting 4 certificates in courses for expanding my resume. I make almost 800$ a month and every single consumer good is 30% to 40% more expensive than in the US, food included (housing NOT included fyi). Imagine if I wasn't prepared/educated as I am, it IS that low.
    Taking pity on Haiti for their past as slaves and "liberating" themselves from being as such is the normal reaction, but for what happened next (reparations) you need to understand the context. Haitians, after liberating themselves, destroyed EVERY single infrastructure the French had left behind when they packed up and then started mass killing every single white person they found, that's where the true reparation costs come from.
    To this day, our export of sugar and cacao is massive. Nobody wants to admit it publicly or legally, but we are a vassal state for the US much like Puerto Rico at this point. Whenever something happens and the US gives our Govt a call? We follow whatever they want us to do without question. At this point we are seriously hoping they just somehow buy us or acquire us cause life here ain't shiny beaches and good music.
    Trujillo (For English speakers, it's spoken as TRUIJIYO not TRUJILO) was, without a shadow of doubt, a massive fucking dickhead. A ridiculously long dictatorship almost turned empire. There is a TON of people that love him to this day though, because for all his genuinely evil shit he pulled and all the money he stole, he undoubtedly DID make our economy stronger and cemented this rock's place in the Caribbean as a hub for exports and tourism. He was murdered after a lot of riling up and tensions after he murder the Mirabal Sisters, martyrs for violence against women and political revolutionaries for women strength in machista Latino countries. There is a reason why the INTERNATIONAL Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women is on 25th of November. I'll let you figure out why.
    Some little tidbits;
    Tourism is our biggest drive, yes, but only in ESSENTIALLY 2 parts; Punta Cana (which I'm sure many people looking for exotic Caribbean beaches and hotels have heard of) which is mostly owned by Americans or, again, small group of elites. Then you have Samana, or the little corner of Terrenas, which is the MAIN hub for Europeans in this country. Dear reader, I truly advise you from a depth of true sincerity, do NOT go anywhere else than these 2 places. Our country is extremely dangerous for foreigners, even if it sounds like we are humble.
    Vodooism in Haiti is STILL a very big thing, to the point where many illegal Haitians still practice it and don't bother maybe learning the Dominican culture of how things are done or made. It creeps out a lot of people in the main cities.
    Dominicans are, in general, extremely racist towards Haitians. You think the US has a problem with illegal Mexican Immigrants??? Oh BOY how wrong you are. I could go into detail, but I'm writing too much already. Ask later.
    Haiti is, from this writer's perspective at least, extremely unlucky. From the corrupt govs they get, to the Natural disasters that they just get hit on top of one another, to how their culture is self destructive.. Just everything man. I wish it would be solved, but it gets thrown on top of the small little ass country that is the DR.
    Speaker vans are actually extremely common. We don't have laws against very loud music at night. Boy can I write a ton about that. At 1 point even I wanted the big ass speakers on my trunk and just open it and let Rip & Tear go off. But I won't, I think you get the implication.
    Also, that frontier/division pic? 100% true, I've been to our frontier several times for other things and its genuinely INCREDIBLE how you can see the sheer division between 2 countries by a single dirt road. Haitians have NOTORIOUSLY burnt their forests to get carbon to use and/or sell.
    NOTHING is as it seems in the ads picture for travel or general google images you see. Every single young Dominican wants to leave this goddamn rock. No one wants to be here. I'm sure Haitians feel the same, and I can't blame them.
    Myself included.
    If you got any questions, please do ask away, im more than happy to share. If I can. Or have the time.

    • @echorome6260
      @echorome6260 Рік тому +93

      Thank you for your insights.

    • @guillermomarindavila5779
      @guillermomarindavila5779 Рік тому +50

      que loco, entiendo el sentimiento de quere irse de tu pais, soy de venezuela asi con eso lo digo todo

    • @yohanserarias8904
      @yohanserarias8904 Рік тому +66

      Loco pero tu hablate' de to' ahí. Yo también soy Dominicano y lo sentí igualito, creo que sí nos conociéramos nos caeríamos bien. Me encanta tu inglés btw. Espero que te vaya bien👍🏻

    • @in_ur_moms_house
      @in_ur_moms_house Рік тому +8

      What about the manufacturing sector? I read that it's also contributed to the gdp growth. Something about medical technology? Foreign companies?

    • @CristianmrWuno
      @CristianmrWuno Рік тому +35

      @@in_ur_moms_house Foreign companies rule a lot when it comes to the tourism sector. The government has been lazy enough to not exploit tourism by themselves but pander to US who under this administration has been trying to boycott both Dominican products and tourism based off external political issues such as us not taking Haitians to stop them from going to the US border

  • @quasar7683
    @quasar7683 Рік тому +948

    Haiti's history is just depressing. It's sad to see how colonization, corrupt, greedy, and just downright abhorrent individuals, and those awful earthquakes are keeping them down

    • @nailil5722
      @nailil5722 Рік тому +79

      I remember seeing a documentary about the dark market of organs in Haiti, truly disturbing stuff. Living there must be hell

    • @nael973
      @nael973 Рік тому +79

      "thank you france"

    • @nael973
      @nael973 Рік тому

      France just robbers Haiti bank

    • @Juan-qu4oj
      @Juan-qu4oj Рік тому +27

      Yeah “earthquakes”

    • @Juan-qu4oj
      @Juan-qu4oj Рік тому +146

      @@nael973 France has been gone for quite some time

  • @SugarKiller7
    @SugarKiller7 Рік тому +354

    In DR we are not rich, we are also poor, just not as poor as Haiti

    • @pulsar2000B
      @pulsar2000B Рік тому +8

      Some people are poor other are rich

    • @Guyver-971
      @Guyver-971 10 місяців тому +54

      ​@@pulsar2000BDominicans are poor, strangers in Dominican republic are rich. Here's the truth

    • @jorgeortiz4485
      @jorgeortiz4485 7 місяців тому +19

      ​@@Guyver-971 Nah, plenty of Dominicans are not poor, the extreme poverty rate is lower than 15%, whereas in Haiti its over 60%

    • @Guyver-971
      @Guyver-971 7 місяців тому +4

      @@jorgeortiz4485 am dominican man

    • @aiaioioi
      @aiaioioi 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@jorgeortiz4485when you put the poverty line so low that people slightly above the line still have to save on essentials, of course everyone is "rich"

  • @Lando-kx6so
    @Lando-kx6so Рік тому +232

    Both countries are poor but Haiti's essentially a failed state whilst Dominican Republic is developing & Haitians aren't just running to the US they're also running to Canada, DR, Bahamas, Chile, Brazil, French Guiana, & pretty much every other Caribbean country

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Рік тому +56

      Because they were saddled with the French debt while Dominicans declared independence without taking any of that debt with them.

    • @enrikillotaino255
      @enrikillotaino255 Рік тому

      ​@@jasonhaven7170 Why did you pay the French if you "beat" them? Lol You dirt eaters feared they would come back with a full army and take Haiti back.

    • @IFRYRCE
      @IFRYRCE Рік тому +102

      @@jasonhaven7170 they weren't saddled with it, they made the horrible decision to AGREE to it despite winning a revolutionary war. They could've kept fighting and refused to pay.

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Рік тому +41

      @@IFRYRCE And then been invaded and taken over and enslaved again.

    • @puraLusa
      @puraLusa Рік тому +63

      ​@@jasonhaven7170 no, not really, there is a number of choices, agreeing to a huge dept was the lazy one, as the dudes who agree to it weren't the ones who were going to work the fields and couldn't care less, so long a portion of the profits stayed in their pockets - that's what a politician is.

  • @idkgoat9394
    @idkgoat9394 Рік тому +731

    As a Puerto Rican I find funny how hoser is avoiding mentioning Puerto Rico at all cost. I feel he doesn’t want to open a complicated can a worms lol

    • @Snoy_Fly
      @Snoy_Fly Рік тому +151

      What does Puerto Rico have to do with this?

    • @frumtheground
      @frumtheground Рік тому +62

      He'll get to you eventually.

    • @Adagm
      @Adagm Рік тому +18

      ​@@Snoy_Fly you don't want to know about the rican tales and the chicanery.

    • @mastershake11434
      @mastershake11434 Рік тому +70

      @@Snoy_Fly it's a very complicated & (this is very important) ongoing situation & is an issue that will get you hate from one side or the other depending on how you tell it. I, a stateside Puerto Rican, brought it up to a native & she was furious with my assessment of it.

    • @ElJosher
      @ElJosher Рік тому +3

      @ramonmujica3193you are correct there brother 😂

  • @osz804
    @osz804 Рік тому +722

    As a Cuban, I think you should really depict Cuba as an alligator 🇨🇺 Manatees don't really make much sense. It is a very common wisdom that the shape of the island kind of looks like an alligator (caimán)
    Lots of love to our neighbours in Haiti and Quisqueya 🇨🇺❤️🇭🇹❤️🇩🇴

    • @metal_pipe9764
      @metal_pipe9764 Рік тому +7

      Alligators are more florida

    • @Norwagen
      @Norwagen Рік тому +157

      @@metal_pipe9764 Florida ain’t a country bro. There’s also a difference between a caiman and an alligator

    • @metal_pipe9764
      @metal_pipe9764 Рік тому +1

      @@Norwagen ik

    • @ILiekFishes
      @ILiekFishes Рік тому +21

      @@Norwagen everyone knows floridians are the same type of subset of humanity as australians or americans

    • @buzter8135
      @buzter8135 Рік тому +5

      @@Norwagen aren't caimans the really creepy ones with the short snouts?

  • @coastaku1954
    @coastaku1954 Рік тому +17

    I recently went to the Dominican Republic and it was a really nice country, my resort sucked but the people are friendly, the island was beautiful, and going to a Toros Del Este baseball game in La Romana was one of the best sports experiences I've ever had!

  • @w.n2425
    @w.n2425 Рік тому +1259

    “If a Colony is struggling, Blame the French” -Average Brit

    • @FoundationRingsTwice
      @FoundationRingsTwice Рік тому +4

      France was literally far and away the worst overlord you could be a colony of

    • @TheKing-uu7jn
      @TheKing-uu7jn Рік тому +106

      They say that for a reason

    • @aidanaldrich7795
      @aidanaldrich7795 Рік тому +272

      Well, the countries affected by French colonization are objectively worse than British colonized countries. Brits gave more regional autonomy to colonized areas and gave them the Common Law system, which is a huge aide to development

    • @arya.n.8252
      @arya.n.8252 Рік тому +71

      ​@@aidanaldrich7795 unless when the border drawn undermine regional ethnic groups like in Sudan

    • @aidanaldrich7795
      @aidanaldrich7795 Рік тому +95

      @Arya .N. Do you realize how ethnically diverse India is? Sudans issue isn't so much race as religion. Muslim North and Christian South

  • @ladislavrocak
    @ladislavrocak Рік тому +93

    I was in Dominican republic and It was AMAZING!!!

    • @webos9361
      @webos9361 Рік тому +14

      Yessir Its great

    • @TheAxeLordOfFire
      @TheAxeLordOfFire Рік тому +13

      I vacationed there too! It was really fun!

    • @alessandro_ofc_06
      @alessandro_ofc_06 Рік тому

      Where you from ?

    • @BTL_LTW
      @BTL_LTW Рік тому +19

      It is for tourists. The average Dominican, on the other hand...

    • @CristianmrWuno
      @CristianmrWuno Рік тому +8

      @@BTL_LTW Fr, if the government wasn’t so garbage, there wouldn’t be doubts about who is rich and poor in the island

  • @neonzombi9928
    @neonzombi9928 Рік тому +95

    Dominicans watching both Hoser and Mr Beat make videos about their country it’s like Christmas coming early this year ❤🇩🇴

  • @alexissmena
    @alexissmena Рік тому +26

    With predominantly Spanish, African and Taíno roots, Dominican culture is a melting pot of creativity, a mixture of races, customs, dreams and hopes.🤣That's my country

    • @ishrendon6435
      @ishrendon6435 11 днів тому

      As a mexican I love domincan republic and Costa rica by far the better places to visit

  • @ScottA2345
    @ScottA2345 Рік тому +37

    I lived in the DR in the late 1980's. I can't believe how much it has developed and changed. Some for the better - some not.

  • @joseprofeta8159
    @joseprofeta8159 Рік тому +37

    Absolutely love this video, bieng dominican never expected you to cover it since we are not a major player in world politics, but is definitely a welcome surprise. Thank you.

    • @RBslash22
      @RBslash22 Рік тому +1

      Most of these companies are not owned by the Dominican people that’s what’s fucked up, would you rather have a beat up home or rent a luxury apartment? If you don’t own anything, you are a slave, no matter how pretty it is.

    • @joseprofeta8159
      @joseprofeta8159 Рік тому +2

      @@RBslash22 That is fair enough, but I would rather be employed than unemployed. I guess it comes down to basic survival, my family that works in the tourism and manufacturing business does not give a damn who owns or does not own those businesses as long as the food is on the table. and also some major businesses are actually either fully owned or at least partially owned by Dominicans.

    • @RBslash22
      @RBslash22 Рік тому

      @@joseprofeta8159 that’s the problem your enemies know you’re hungry, so they take advantage of your hunger.

  • @averagepotatoenjoyer
    @averagepotatoenjoyer Рік тому +44

    You know it’s a good day when Hoser uploads

  • @charlottecamila2859
    @charlottecamila2859 Рік тому +144

    I'm Dominican but I really want Haiti to prosper soon 😢 no human being should live in those conditions. ❤ at this point its about human beings. They are human beings.

    • @glenn6583
      @glenn6583 Рік тому +10

      That is a very important thing to consider. Come on Haiti, you can do it!

    • @williamdavidson5818
      @williamdavidson5818 Рік тому +8

      No they are not

    • @alfred038
      @alfred038 Рік тому +3

      @@williamdavidson5818 what do you mean

    • @wildg7477
      @wildg7477 Рік тому +17

      Don't give him attention, there's always that person

    • @Fr1xtizy
      @Fr1xtizy Рік тому +1

      ​@@wildg7477ik dude, on a short about kosta's case some comments we're:
      "Kosta my love"
      "Handsome as always"
      "I'm going to do the same thing"
      Wtf 💀

  • @YUNGSHADOWBEATS
    @YUNGSHADOWBEATS Рік тому +30

    14:51 best part of the video hands down 🤣💀 Nah but fr tho, I've been watching your content for quite a while and never thought I would see you doing a video related to the Hispaniola. Great video! Greetings from DR 🇩🇴

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Рік тому +112

    Interesting Haitian facts: Gourds were so important to the Haitian people that in 1807, President Henri Christophe (who lived from 1761 to 1820) made them the base of national currency and declared all gourds the property of the state. Today, the Haitian currency is called “gourdes.” Île a Vache (Cow Island) lies off Haiti’s southern coast and is so named because it was once overrun by wild cows descended from animals abandoned by the Spanish. With an area of 10,714 square miles (27,750 square kilometers), Haiti is only slightly larger than Vermont. Haitian revolutionary leader Francois-Dominique Toussaint earned the nickname Toussaint-L’ Ouverture (the opening), which referred to his ability to find an opening in the enemy lines as well as opening the way for Haiti’s independence
    I feel like either a Cuban crocodile or the Cuban trogon which is the national bird, would be a better representation of Cuba than a manatee, which is a creature associated with the state of Florida rather than Cuba.

    • @zeminoid
      @zeminoid Рік тому +5

      With Florida? Here in the DR, it is our favorite marine mammal, on par with the humpback whales.

    • @JatPhenshllem
      @JatPhenshllem Рік тому +4

      Oh Supreme Leader, it is you! How does Kim Jong-Dos fair, oh Supreme Leader?

    • @familyandfriends3519
      @familyandfriends3519 Рік тому

      When did Cuba get independence from

  • @BlackBeltK1ng
    @BlackBeltK1ng Рік тому +14

    BRO TY SO MUCH IM DOMINICAN AND YOU CANT UNDERSTAND AND YOU CANT EVEN PUT INTO WORDS HOW GRATEFULL WE ARE FOR YOU TO HAVE DONE A VIDEO ON US. TY!!!!!

  • @catalinodominguez3919
    @catalinodominguez3919 Рік тому +4

    thank you brother for the effort in gathering all of this veri important information for those that dont know the real true about the history of the island, thank you

  • @Abotekap
    @Abotekap Рік тому +35

    Yo at 8:38 before you said sugar I thought you meant coke lol

    • @nekozombie
      @nekozombie Рік тому +6

      That was the intended effect:)

  • @Sam_Sam2
    @Sam_Sam2 Рік тому +478

    Haiti’s normal state is always complete chaos.

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 Рік тому +46

      That’s really sad.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying Рік тому +50

      @Curiosity wdym how??

    • @petergermain6920
      @petergermain6920 Рік тому

      That's because someone is literally ALWAYS invading us or embargoing us since independence

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Рік тому +12

      Because of the French.

    • @justified_wrath_21
      @justified_wrath_21 Рік тому +20

      @@nathanseper8738 Because it doesn’t have to be. They were a FRENCH colony, they were enslaved and fought for their freedom. Which means they were already down for the start.

  • @karnielcashumphries683
    @karnielcashumphries683 Рік тому +43

    As a Dominican I’m super happy my favorite UA-camr finally made a video on this

  • @Yoryi015
    @Yoryi015 Рік тому +39

    When France demanded that money from Haiti, the Haitians invaded the DR and forced it to pay its debt (for that they used as a pretext that it was going to break slavery but in reality it was to be able to pay its debt with France), that period was of great They oppressed the DR, they wanted us to forget our own language, religion, culture, they made a total abuse of power, they extended work hours, compulsory military service among others... We endured that for 22 long years until 1844.

    • @arijeanz
      @arijeanz 4 місяці тому +10

      and yet we have repaid that violence 8 times over. people who justify their unconditional disdain and hatred for haiti with the pretext of "oh but they occupied us at the beginning of our history!!" are lame af. that was more than a century ago. look at how things are now, how much better we have it on our side. i will always have empathy for haiti

    • @CristianmrWuno
      @CristianmrWuno 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes, Which is funny because people usually blame the French solely for their state, but they conveniently ignore the fact that Haiti adopted a similar colonial monarchy style of government to abuse DR.
      The only reason why it backfired was because the pressure from the French that made them bankrupt, if not DR wouldn’t be a country. So much for the freedom fighters but they couldn’t simply ignore the French pressure and strengthen their country with other colonies like the DR was trying to before trying to join the Gran Colombia alliance 💀💀😹

    • @josemor2719
      @josemor2719 Місяць тому +1

      And Haiti kept invading the DR until 1856. Unsuccessfully.

  • @espvp
    @espvp Рік тому +100

    As a Dominican, fan of your channel and simply a history nerd in general, you did a fantastic job explaining both countries' history. I will now use this video for future reference if anyone asks me for a summary of my country (and the differences between Haiti). Thank you! Now off to Mr Beat's video.

    • @CCS-BR
      @CCS-BR Рік тому +5

      Bro you're dominican
      Sorry for the invasion in 1965
      (I'm from brazil🇧🇷)

    • @EstrellaO-2023
      @EstrellaO-2023 Рік тому +1

      @@CCS-BR no one want s to read. He wants to watch a video with selective facts.

    • @familyandfriends3519
      @familyandfriends3519 Рік тому +2

      Dominican republic got independence from Spain in 1821

  • @micahvandam9658
    @micahvandam9658 Рік тому +102

    Another, often not spoken about, issue was the US exporting all their excess rice to Haiti at prices and quality that Haitian farmers couldn’t compete with driving many out of business and causing Haitians to become dependent on American rice instead of supporting their own farming economy. If you are not aware, rice is the main dish in Haiti often as a daily meal. (Their rice and bean dishes are also very good 😋)

    • @cashewnuttel9054
      @cashewnuttel9054 Рік тому

      You know what? I think Haiti being poor is a hoax. They're not actually poor, but actually excessively rich, probably richer than Norway even; they're like Wakanda.
      If they are so poor, then why do they have 11 million people?

    • @DuecyHD
      @DuecyHD Рік тому

      @dish dog nah they was selling rice to Haiti, even Clinton apologize for it

    • @DuecyHD
      @DuecyHD Рік тому +10

      @dish dog it force farmers to lose there jobs basically

    • @MrGeforcerFX
      @MrGeforcerFX Рік тому +11

      @@DuecyHD or frees them up to crow cash crops instead of sustenance crops.

    • @joelhungerford8388
      @joelhungerford8388 Рік тому +16

      Sounds like they were given an opportunity to make money by growing another crop but instead took the easy option and took free food

  • @AlfredoVargas
    @AlfredoVargas Рік тому +20

    This video totally missed the point about the two populations of the two countries that share this unique island. They missed it as most everyone does, because the history between 1492 and 1804 (the year the state of Haiti was founded), is not told correctly.
    The discovery and colonization by Spaniards of the Western Hemisphere had a direct effect on the island of Hispaniola and its people, basically today's Spanish speaking mixed race Dominicans, that cannot be explained by just what Spaniards did elsewhere (Cuba. Mexico, Peru, Colombia, etc.).
    My ancestors came as early as 1594 to the Cibao Valley and stayed there, isolated for the next 450 years, while the rest of the world evolved to the XX century (until about the 1960's). But they represented consistently between 65% to 80% of the island inhabitants, when it was wholly under Spain, or after the Eastern 2/3 of the island became independent of the Haitian empire in 1844, as the Dominican Republic.
    After Santo Domingo played a transcendental role in the first 50 years since the discovery in 1492, it was the seat of the Castilian Vice-royalty of the West Indies. It was then quickly abandoned (1537) for the Spanish Vice-royalties in Mexico (1535) and Peru (1542).
    In 1560, all naval logistics was transferred to Cuba from Santo Domingo, which meant deserting the island, except for the northern interior Cibao Valley, rich in agriculture and gold.
    That allowed for the abandoned population to mix with the remaining Tainos and the few black slaves brought around 1506, for the now bankrupt sugar plantations on the Southern Caribbean coast West of Santo Domingo. By the time the English pirate Francis Drake assaulted Santo Domingo, in 1586, the city was already a ruined village.
    In 1603, the Spanish king ordered all coastal cities in the North and West of the island to be moved to the Eastern interior.
    Thus, Montecristi and Puerto Plata (in the North) as well as Bayajá and Yaguana (in the West, now Haiti) were forcibly moved to Monte-Plata and Baya-Guana that are located now NE of Santo Domingo.
    That was the ,context when French pirates atrted taking over the Western side of the island. In 1697, Spain exchanged the West side to France for present day Catalonia.
    By then, the French King Louis the XIV, le Roi Soleil, had started importing slaves from Africa with the legal oddity, since 1685, of the Code Noir by which slavery was justified by skin color. Black meant you were less worth than cattle or barely human.
    It was typically French since at that time the English had Irish (white) slaves in Jamaica, (since 1655), and other smaller Caribbean islands. The Spanish never had such racially based laws and were more concerned into converting the souls of natives and slaves.
    As Santo Domingo became abandoned and poor by the end of the XVI century, slavery only existed in paper in the Spanish side of the island, when France took over the newly named colony of Saint Domingue.
    Who were the Haitians? On January 1, 1804, 98% of the free black slaves were Africans, ethnically and culturally, with no roots in the island, since 67% were actually born in Africa while the rest were children or grandchildren of African slaves born in the French side of the island.
    They were from more than 20 different ethnic groups from West Africa with no common language, religions or traditions.
    They were all black that had been enslaved by other black Africans in Africa and sold to the French, who applied the 1685 Black Code in the island.
    Thus, it was no surprise that the framers of the Haitian State wrote in their constitution that it was a Black State where whites should either leave or be killed.
    It also prevented them to see themselves as different ethnic groups not sharing a common goal to become a Nation.
    That is the root cause why today Haiti is a failed state, because the state model it chose favored messianic leaders that became dictators and only governed for their own group for the 219 years they gained independence.
    If you add to the equation the racial discrimination derived of black superiority as a reaction to the French imposed Black Code, you will start understanding the rationale of annexing and colonizing the Spanish speaking racially mixed Dominicans, from 1822 through 1844, forcing the 120,000 Dominicans to fight a 12 years war against the one million Haitians from Africa to gain independence as the Dominican Republic.
    The Dominican coat of arms has the Bible in its center with St. John's gospel quote: "You will know the Truth, and Truth will set you free."
    The reason is because the plight of the two countries in our island is that imperial powers for the last 500 years have lied about our nations.
    I am one of the pioneers in developing European tourism since mid-1976 to both Haiti and Santo Domingo from Switzerland, and I have witnessed first hand how the last 30 years brought back events of 5 centuries ago in respect to Santo Domingo, and 2 centuries ago to Haiti, to understand the status quo of chaos and anarchy of the wealthiest colony France ever had, and prosperity, back to the island that was the entry point of Western culture to the Americas.
    Our history is not the history of Spain, or for that matter of Mexico, Colombia, Cuba or any other Spanish speaking country, also it is not the history of out neighbor and former occupier, the Empire of Haiti and its African slaves.
    By the way, Dominicans are about 15% Spanish white, 10% black (excluding Haitian origin) and 75% mixed for the last 500 years, but culturally and linguistically Spanish speakers, with deep roots in the island.

  • @LongHaulRob
    @LongHaulRob 9 місяців тому +2

    Dominican here, I sincerely appreciate you using dembow in the background. Only instance where economic history made me want to dance.

  • @jerryhernandez1895
    @jerryhernandez1895 Рік тому +26

    The saddest difference in my opinion is the forestry difference. The Island was once completely naturally beautiful.

    • @michaelalexify
      @michaelalexify Рік тому +24

      Tell them to stop chopping their tress down and not replanting

    • @joelhungerford8388
      @joelhungerford8388 Рік тому

      When the debt was paid, Haiti was around 30% covered. What is it now, 2%? Well maybe in that period between the end of debt and now the Haitians should of thought of conservation instead of profit! LOL let's just continue destroying our country and only start complaining when the quick buck disappears. How dare the French show us that chopping down trees can make money.

    • @Atalaya-de-Jesus
      @Atalaya-de-Jesus Рік тому

      LOS AHITIANOS MUTILARON SU PAIS. 😢

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 Рік тому +2

      ​@@michaelalexifythey can't. They apparently cross the border to chop down trees in DR.

  • @BlockedbySnorlax
    @BlockedbySnorlax Рік тому +14

    "Sumed up by the greatest Dominican invention of all time, the speakervan" sent me rolling lmao. you earned a sub

  • @FelixFloruis
    @FelixFloruis Рік тому +50

    People should understand that if another country has invaded another country many peiople will be killed. Haiti invaded the Dominican Republic for 22 years and many Dominicans were killed, which nobody mentions. Haiti wanted to change the Dominican Republic's language religion, etc.

    • @familyandfriends3519
      @familyandfriends3519 Рік тому +2

      Dominican republic got independence from Spain in 1821

    • @Atalaya-de-Jesus
      @Atalaya-de-Jesus Рік тому +10

      ​@@familyandfriends3519 Y DE HAITI EN EL 1844.

    • @angeL_ocracy
      @angeL_ocracy Рік тому

      And I’m so sorry that even happened. But I’m pretty sure that was during the ruling of that one corrupt Haitian president correct? I forgot his name but he fucked shit up for everrryyybodyyyy.

    • @Guyver-971
      @Guyver-971 10 місяців тому +2

      Yall love to talk about that, but never talk about USA invasions

    • @myspecialhair8766
      @myspecialhair8766 7 місяців тому

      @@familyandfriends3519 Wrong in 1821 Dominican Republic and the flag was not created it was after Haiti war in 1844 Dominican Republic was born.

  • @marcotv9085
    @marcotv9085 Рік тому +11

    As a Dominican I thank for talking about my country see many people don’t even know it exist

  • @TheMissDebyluv
    @TheMissDebyluv Рік тому +71

    My mother grew up in haiti during the dictator and told me so many horror stories about the tonton macoutes. She used to live behind a police station and would hear them torture prisoners.

    • @heniakonas9439
      @heniakonas9439 Рік тому +2

      Plus ca change...,

    • @MainaGakere
      @MainaGakere Рік тому

      Chocolate Rain is here man.awesome!

    • @manfromthepast
      @manfromthepast Рік тому +5

      Those days were a million times better than today.

    • @laken1804
      @laken1804 9 місяців тому

      @@manfromthepast 👍

    • @laken1804
      @laken1804 9 місяців тому

      The tonton macoutes need to come back, to handle the gangsters who are running amok everywhere.

  • @tarunchavali
    @tarunchavali Рік тому +7

    I was just reading up on the India-Dominican Republic relations as our foreign minister was in Santo Domingo
    I opened YT and your video on the topic appeared….what a coincidence !

  • @JojoJere
    @JojoJere Рік тому +27

    8:51 I thought it wa- [perm ban]

  • @Laacv17
    @Laacv17 Рік тому +8

    As a Dominican, this was a fun way to relive high school hahahaha! Great job!

  • @RoseNZieg
    @RoseNZieg Рік тому +14

    honestly after learning how some Haitians replanted a forest and those trees never became mature through nature and human action, it filled me with loss of hope that Haiti could not get back part of the forest it lost.

  • @theoriginaljean3917
    @theoriginaljean3917 Рік тому +13

    Forgot to mention something vital that harmed the relationship between both sides. The east side gained independence from Spain, and in no more than two months, Haiti invaded and took it over for 22 years… imposing their ways, oppressing white locals, restricting our culture, language, religion, also taking assets pertaining to the higher class, and over taxing us to pay for their debt with France.
    This is when the east side fought back and became independent from Haiti to become the Dominican Republic.
    After this, Haiti invaded many more times because they wanted to take the entire island, but the DR was able to defend themselves from this ever happening although they couldn’t stop the damage the Haitian army caused every time they invaded.
    So what started as a mess, turned worse, because of the greed of Haitis leaders historically.
    Fast forward, there’s a lot of xenophobia in DR even to this day.

    • @familyandfriends3519
      @familyandfriends3519 Рік тому

      Yes and Dominican republic true independence is from Spain in 1821

    • @Atalaya-de-Jesus
      @Atalaya-de-Jesus Рік тому

      HAY XENOFOBIA COMO DICES , ES PORQUE NO SON CONFIABLES , SON TRAICIONEROS .

  • @TehLionz
    @TehLionz Рік тому +6

    Your videos are what I look forward to. Keep up the Good work H0ser

  • @SolLunaTV
    @SolLunaTV Рік тому +3

    You are missing the part where Haiti heavily depends on the DR for food, and also most Haitians emigrate to the DR.

  • @JCPplays
    @JCPplays Рік тому +130

    As a Haitian-American, I'm sad that my parent's home country is in such ruin. 🇭🇹🇭🇹

    • @denny6379
      @denny6379 Рік тому +20

      u can say thx to colonialism and current capitalism to that

    • @sinefromabovebabylon3577
      @sinefromabovebabylon3577 Рік тому +8

      You're just an American

    • @denny6379
      @denny6379 Рік тому +51

      @@sinefromabovebabylon3577 he literally comes or his parents from haiti...how is he not haitian-american 😂🤦

    • @panchosangurima3616
      @panchosangurima3616 Рік тому

      ​@@denny6379Haití nació muerto, no fue culpa del capitalismo
      Que esperaban después de la tremenda guerra por su independencia y la posterior ejecución de todos los "blancos"

    • @pixums
      @pixums Рік тому +1

      Fr

  • @ritchstudios2267
    @ritchstudios2267 Рік тому +25

    As a Haitian, I thank you for finally talking about these issues on our island. Hispaniola isn't talked about enough, so to see you making content on this topic warms my heart.

    • @ieronymos9265
      @ieronymos9265 Рік тому +1

      Portraying your nation in a much negative light “warms your heart????”

    • @ritchstudios2267
      @ritchstudios2267 Рік тому +19

      @@ieronymos9265 What hoser said is simply true, and I appreciate that he is bringing attention to these issues.

    • @Lunella08
      @Lunella08 Рік тому +7

      ​@@ieronymos9265 Would you rather us be angry and want him to sugar coat our history? Because I feel that it is better to accept the truth no matter how bad and hopefully change for the better. Maybe you would rather the history of whatever country you're from to be sugar coated to make you feel better.

    • @elsensei666
      @elsensei666 Рік тому

      @@ieronymos9265 Do you love living lies?

  • @Kikusin22
    @Kikusin22 Рік тому +6

    The Dominican Republic is a beautiful paradise, I saw a photograph coffee table book on Amazon about this country full of beautiful photos and is gorgeous!

    • @laken1804
      @laken1804 9 місяців тому

      Surprise it is the same landscape as in Haiti. People just like to showcase the ugly parts of Haiti.

  • @H_Jones
    @H_Jones Рік тому +3

    This was a very enlightening video, I have been to DR several times but learned a lot here. I have to say though, hearing you “The Dominican” over and over plus your pronunciation of Punta Cana & Trujillo is like nails on a chalkboard

  • @vicrai578
    @vicrai578 Рік тому +28

    I would have named the title "One island, two tales"

  • @EstrellaO-2023
    @EstrellaO-2023 Рік тому +9

    Here (to me) the 4 biggest problems between DR & Haiti:
    #1 Source of conflict: In 1822, Haiti invaded and occupied the eastern part of the island of Hispaniola, which was then known as Santo Domingo and is now the Dominican Republic. The Haitian government at the time claimed that it was bringing freedom and democracy to the people of Santo Domingo, who were then under Spanish rule.
    Haiti's occupation of Santo Domingo lasted for 22 years, during which time it abolished slavery and implemented a number of social and economic reforms. However, it also imposed heavy taxes on the people of Santo Domingo and attempted to impose its language and culture on them, leading to widespread resentment and resistance.
    In 1844, a group of Dominican rebels led by Juan Pablo Duarte declared independence from Haiti and established the Dominican Republic as a separate nation. The Haitian government attempted to retake Santo Domingo, but was defeated by the Dominican rebels in a series of battles.
    #2 Source of conflict:
    Haiti has been plagued by political instability and unrest for many years. The country has suffered from coups, political violence, and corruption. Currently Haiti has practicly no governmnet. They don't provide basic ID's, passports, birth certificates to their own citizens. Then they migrate to DR and the international community want to stron-arm the DR to give them citizenship. This is a campaign to discredit the Dominican Republic claiming the DR has taking away Haitians rights to citizenship.
    #3 Economic reasons: Haitian workers often migrate to the Dominican Republic in search of better economic opportunities, but this has also led to resentment among some Dominicans who feel that Haitians are taking their jobs.
    #4 Culture and religion: like or not, religious belief is also a big one.
    So what many call racism, is really more a rejection of absorbing or tolerating those differences when it comes time to resolve conflicts that have been there for centuries.

  • @Tsa_ramdom
    @Tsa_ramdom Рік тому +7

    As a Dominican kid that lives in Santo Domingo I have learned more than my entire life in school

  • @OrlenNSophia
    @OrlenNSophia 29 днів тому +2

    As a Dominican who lives in the Island. Your explanation of both countries is spot on. I learned about the reparations to France as an adult and let me just tell you my jaw hit the floor. Very unjust and very sad.

  • @interNETS-KING
    @interNETS-KING Рік тому +23

    "It's sugar"
    I genuinely thought it was cocaine😂💀

    • @howardvonstauffer
      @howardvonstauffer Рік тому

      That's literally what I thought as well.

    • @mikicerise6250
      @mikicerise6250 Рік тому

      Wow! Genuinely? Literally? You guys both had the exact same idea! What are the odds!?

    • @interNETS-KING
      @interNETS-KING Рік тому

      @@mikicerise6250 IDK

  • @plasmarade
    @plasmarade Рік тому +64

    @hoser you should cover El Salvador and how it turned from one of the world's most dangerous countries to the safest it's ever been.

  • @Daytonahhh
    @Daytonahhh Рік тому +48

    as a canadian i can confirm that I went to Punta Cana, had a great time and forgot haiti ever existed

    • @cristophercha
      @cristophercha Рік тому +3

      Because it's trash 😂

    • @angeL_ocracy
      @angeL_ocracy Рік тому +13

      @@cristopherchaI mean I wouldn’t put it like that but yeah, we’re in a pretty rough patch right now. Our food and music are great though! 😊

    • @Guyver-971
      @Guyver-971 10 місяців тому +2

      Went to both sides and both places are beautiful

    • @Daytonahhh
      @Daytonahhh 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Guyver-971 id like to go to haiti one day but maybe after they get things sorted out

    • @laken1804
      @laken1804 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@DaytonahhhGet on a cruise that stops in Labadee Haiti. That way you get to see a nice part of Haiti. Celebrity Cruise has cruises that stops there.
      There is no telling when Haiti will be fit to visit.

  • @dinero1023
    @dinero1023 Рік тому +3

    Lmfaoo the van was super spot on thank you for the shout out

  • @dawudsandstorm7852
    @dawudsandstorm7852 Рік тому +19

    4:40 Excuse me, French what?

  • @Cerxts
    @Cerxts Рік тому +7

    Domincan here! Thank you for this very interesting video, its cool to see the huge differences between our country and the neighboring one.

  • @jacklazzaro9820
    @jacklazzaro9820 Рік тому +18

    4:45 Did I hear this correctly?

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 Рік тому +1

    Phenomenal recap of DR's history! Thanks!!

  • @fightingblindly
    @fightingblindly Рік тому +24

    Also, the US politically isolated Haiti a long with other European countries after their slave revolts because they were terrified those revolts would spread to their slave owning areas. It crippled the country just as it was taking off.

  • @discountbabwe2888
    @discountbabwe2888 Рік тому +5

    Ive been preaching this for years, finally someone gets me

  • @elpidiocorcino9834
    @elpidiocorcino9834 Рік тому +6

    Excelente!! Si le pones subtítulos en español te aseguro que esté canal crecerá mucho, historia con humor muy bien😊🇩🇴🇩🇴👌

  • @splexzp7930
    @splexzp7930 8 місяців тому

    Glad to see this video, my country finally getting some mention and recognition, greetings from Dominican Republic.

  • @r.r.n8998
    @r.r.n8998 Рік тому +79

    Mentioning Haitian emigration and Caribbean tourism without saying the word Bahamas once is actually pretty impressive lol

    • @riadyl3311
      @riadyl3311 Рік тому +5

      Bahamas who?

    • @EstrellaO-2023
      @EstrellaO-2023 Рік тому +14

      considering that Bahamas is the first to send them right back. But, there is no beef with Bahamas. Only Racist DR.

    • @CarlosCastro_
      @CarlosCastro_ Рік тому +27

      In the Bahamas, they place undocumented Haitians in cages, to await to be processed and don’t let them near areas were locals can come in contact with them. And they ship them back to Haiti in mass numbers. If the DR were to do the same the UN and organizations would be calling for the DR to be taken over.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Рік тому +1

      @@CarlosCastro_ Bahamas get a pass because of all that American tourist money. I still have no clue how the Bahamas didn't end up part of the US since it's literally a 30min boat ride from the Florida coast.

    • @selmevias1383
      @selmevias1383 Рік тому

      @@mrvwbug4423 Money.

  • @theodoretex1068
    @theodoretex1068 Рік тому +32

    Hispaniola history be like:
    > in shambles from exploitation
    > new exploiter takes power
    > 60,000 perish

  • @JustJohn505
    @JustJohn505 Рік тому +41

    Proud to have Dominican neighbors 🇵🇷

    • @Asturev
      @Asturev Рік тому +5

      Que raro que eso venga de un puertorriqueño

    • @elsensei666
      @elsensei666 Рік тому +3

      @@Asturev en verda

    • @Not_a567
      @Not_a567 Рік тому +1

      I love my Puertoricans neighbors 🇩🇴❤🇵🇷

  • @ryoszakira2511
    @ryoszakira2511 Рік тому +3

    I live in the Dominican Republic and its nice to learn a little more about our neighbors once in a while.

  • @Violet-im6ek8pf9o
    @Violet-im6ek8pf9o Рік тому +4

    I've watched videos on touristic places in DR. It's absolutely beautiful.

  • @colorlessdecember2308
    @colorlessdecember2308 Рік тому +9

    Born a dominican, this is seeing everything from third person perspective.

  • @zoltanperei4789
    @zoltanperei4789 Рік тому +17

    16:01 what kind of gun is that?

    • @cr1ym
      @cr1ym Рік тому +4

      It's a wood gun. You throw the stick to fire, and to reload, you have to go find it.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Рік тому +3

      This is peak Haitian engineering
      Now let them cook, I want to see where they're going

    • @jay1jayf
      @jay1jayf Рік тому +3

      the AST44
      Avtomat Stick 47

  • @JoseTheRover
    @JoseTheRover Рік тому +1

    I’m Dominican, you killed me with the speaker van lol. You did your research my man, respect. Hahahahaha

  • @monto816
    @monto816 6 місяців тому +4

    Prayers to Haiti, they don't deserve the struggle they going through right now. Hoping for a better future for them. Also a better future DR and Haiti can become nice allies with one another.

  • @maxilol2345
    @maxilol2345 Рік тому +6

    Also there’s mass migration from haitians not only to the us but to the dominican republic as well. As a neighbooring country it is much easier for someone from Haiti to get here

  • @humffers9048
    @humffers9048 Рік тому +13

    I am so happy you covered my country and Haiti. Certainly a situation that could use more attention and knowledge

  • @livphobia
    @livphobia 9 місяців тому +27

    🇭🇹: “please help us for the love of God”
    🇩🇴: *cranks speakervan*

  • @sakrom
    @sakrom Рік тому +9

    Im Dominican and i can tell this videos is accurate awesome job

    • @emanueldelacruz1101
      @emanueldelacruz1101 Рік тому +2

      Nope. It's full of errors.
      The tourism sector is only 8% of the gdp but he said that it was 25%

    • @RBslash22
      @RBslash22 Рік тому

      What’s actually sad is that most Dominicans are poor very poor actually every place has good and bad places. Most of these businesses are not owned by Dominicans if you think the name of the island is called Hispaniola, then you have been colonized by the Spanish and they also taught you your history. Because if you were truly from Taino people you would know the name of the island is called Haiti.❤

    • @sakrom
      @sakrom Рік тому +1

      @@RBslash22 friend, the island was also called Quisqueya by the Tainos on the Dominican side.

    • @tf4151
      @tf4151 Рік тому

      @@RBslash22 you do know not all Dominicans are taino right like myself I’m from Europe on both my grandparents so I’m white and I have no Taino or Indian in me

    • @tf4151
      @tf4151 Рік тому

      @@RBslash22 the name of the island is la española named by Colon u can’t change that

  • @So-ny9hf
    @So-ny9hf Рік тому +8

    Fun fact, Haiti isn’t the only country to be created and ruled by former slaves, the Mamluk Sultanate, while not around anymore at this time, was created by revolting Turkic slaves in the Abbasid Caliphate.

  • @mooseears9849
    @mooseears9849 Рік тому +35

    It’s also worth noting that Haiti and the D.R are in different time zones, so on December 31, the Dominican Republic can say that they are a full year ahead of Haiti (for only an hour)

    • @joelhungerford8388
      @joelhungerford8388 Рік тому

      Those of us in the eastern side of the globe know exactly what you mean haha

  • @deac19201
    @deac19201 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for talking about dominican republic!

  • @tarp.
    @tarp. Рік тому +21

    As someone who went to the Dominican Republic a few weeks ago (to Punta Cana and Santo Domingo), I can tell that a good chunk of the economy of the Dominican is based on the tourism industry. While tourism is still somewhat present in Haiti, the Dominican is much more famed for that since it has many beautiful beaches. Also, besides coastal Punta Cana (where all the resorts are), the rest of the city is kind of broken down from my experience. All in all, great video hoser!

    • @SelEsther
      @SelEsther Рік тому +13

      Nahh there are resorts everywhere in DR. And the whole country is developing, you should go to Santiago. You need to get out and really visit the whole country.

    • @tarp.
      @tarp. Рік тому

      @@SelEsther yeah i stayed at a resort. We went to the inland areas (i went to Higuey) it is much more rural than something like Punta Cana

    • @XloMotion
      @XloMotion Рік тому +10

      You're basing your opinion of the country based on a vacation trip to punta cana?
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      Dude we're more than just hotels and beaches. We produce 85% of what we consume and still have left to exports. From rice, beans, coffee, corn
      We are actually keeping the Haitians alive with our exports

    • @tarp.
      @tarp. Рік тому +1

      @@XloMotion sorry for the misunderstanding. thanks for the insight :)

    • @normairydejesusmieses2162
      @normairydejesusmieses2162 Рік тому +1

      Good you enjoy! Next time try other places. Punta Cana is a bubble created for tourists around beaches. The rest of the country is more beautiful and diverse and has a lot of interesting activities. ❤

  • @MrRJC1991
    @MrRJC1991 Рік тому +7

    As Dominican, I will not say much about this one. I am going to sit it out.

  • @amparomartinez8723
    @amparomartinez8723 Рік тому +11

    Correction. THERE WERE NOT TAÍNOS WHEN THE FRENCH OCCUPIED THE WESTERN PART OF THE HISPANIOLA ISLAND BY THE 1600s. The island was discovered by 1492.

    • @familyandfriends3519
      @familyandfriends3519 Рік тому +3

      And he also forgot to mention Dominican republic got independence from Spain in 1821

  • @Okrollins1
    @Okrollins1 Рік тому +2

    My Brother in law lives and works in New York now for over 10 years. He is not a citizen, nor has he tried to learn English. He plans to retire and move back to the DR. He has already builded his house there.

  • @domchuchi1250
    @domchuchi1250 Рік тому +12

    Dominican Republic mentioned 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴 🎉🎉🎉

  • @XxTurk3ybo1xX
    @XxTurk3ybo1xX Рік тому +16

    7:00 I feel like you skimmed over the Haitian Revolution i bit too much. As the Haitian didn't just kill their former masters, they killed all white people on the island, men, women, children. The only one who allowed to live were the Polish volunteers who helped the slaves during the revolution. And some women were allow to live as long as they married a former slave.
    so to call it bloody is a bit of an understatement but also while im sure many of the slave owners deserved to die, at the same time it doesn't justify genocide.

    • @jec9050
      @jec9050 Рік тому +4

      There was no rule for the Polish to marry a former slave. Literally that was the only choice of women to marry.

  • @stewart2589
    @stewart2589 Рік тому +7

    Dominican Republic is such a cool place to visit meanwhile American Africa still gets tourists since UA-camrs like to go there

  • @eddwincedeno5387
    @eddwincedeno5387 Місяць тому +1

    Had two Uncles disappear during the Trujillo years in the Dominican Republic. His rule was a big reason my mom's side of the family ended up in the Bronx and Queens.