add cruise control and tubeless tyres. Those are deal breakers for many of us. The right screen is such an individual thing I'd figure that out later. I traded my 2014 Vstrom 1000 at 7 years old for a KTM 790 Adventure S because it could give me CC and tubeless. (after all, who'd want to stop and take off the back wheel to put in a tube doing what these guys are doing in that weather?). I do love the notion of a removable subframe
those are my gripes as well, why no cruise control on a touring bike like this??? i ride an 09 650vstrom and it is a great touring bike, but would love cruise on the long straights to rest my hand. mine of course has solid wheels so no tubes....why is it so hard for suzuki to add these 2 little items??
You have a point. Tubeless tyres are a real plus when off road, so perhaps that upgrade is in the wings. Oddly the big brother 1000DE get a tubeless reart only. Let's hope tubed tyres are on the way out. Really.
What suprised me pleasantly that 800DE here in CZ, Europe is priced at Transalp level with already included extras so it is priced below Transalp (400 Euro), Tenere (1k Euro) and also Tuareg and 790 Adv which sounds to me like reaaly good value for the money
The Suzuki is the better tourer and commuter. The other two are more off-road oriented, not so forgiving on tarmac. They are better than the Suzuki off-road? Sure. But the Suzuki is also fine offroad and motor is a MUCH better commuter and tourer. For 80-20 the Suzuki si a no brainer. And the fact is beautiful helps.
Not as off road focused as T7? It has more suspension travel than Yamaha and you say that? Do you think it has more travel front and back, full adjustability and a 21" front wheel for road performance? Nice job.
It gets a bit tiring how everyone just repeats the same crap. Rides bike 3 km down a road and they are suddenly an expert. Watch that guy from the USA who actually buys bikes and does in depth review, big rock moto I think he’s called. He just bought one of these so will be interesting to see his long term review. Very unbiased and professional reviewer
Thanks for the review! I have been invited to test ride the CFMOTO 800MT but I dont think it compares as the Suzuki Vstrom is built on a lot of history and all of it good! The CFMOTO yes is good value but its yet to to prove itself as strong and reliable as a Vstrom. As the song goes, its not about the money or the ba bling ba bling. lol P.S. The other thing people forget, RESALE! An 800DE will have far better resale value than a 800MT.
after retiring my 08 klr from primary bike in 2017(150'000km) and getting on a dl650xt, I hope this model is as good on gravel and other loose surfaces as my old klr(trading the dl650, for a 800de). I absolutely never enjoyed dirt or gravel roads on the dl650, and really hope this unit is the answer.
I think im getting ready to buy one of these. The filter on the thumbnail got me. I thought there was a special edition gold one. I was like man i want that one lol
Thanks for the solid review. These big companies still don't get it, people today want cruise. What part of adventure touring don't they understand? Lol. I think it's going to end up being the Chinese that bring cruise control to the less expensive bikes. If the big guys won't give us what we want, someone else will. Including that unicorn 400cc bike. We will see.
@@emfl4437 A 17" rear is not a deal breaker for me at all. My current V-Strom has a 17" rear, and I have zero issues with that. But I don't plan on having tube-type tires on my bikes anymore, unless I was to buy a used DR or KLR.
so, for almost the same price, is this bike superior to the T7? listening to you it looks more powerful + better suspension. do you think it could be as reliable as the T7?
Is more powerful but less off-road oriented. And that for me is a plus. (It's also easier to pick up). Reliable, it's probably more reliable than the Yamaha.
I think the Suzuki is more sure-footed, particularly on the dirt, and is a more 'finished' package all together. That said, the CFMOTO is roughly $4000 less expensive and so with that in mind it remains a great adventure bike option. As you may know, there is also a new CFMOTO 800MT Explore Edition which we'll be very keen to test. Details on that here: infomoto.com.au/news/2023-cfmoto-800mt-explore-edition-pricing-confirmed/
Parallel twin, so there is a degree of weight centralised and high. If you can pick up a bike, you can pick up this one. It's technique for the most part.
Jesus Mary Joseph & Spencer! It’s a great bike but 18500 grand, makes the CFMoto 800MT Touring model look far more appealing. In those trying conditions my good man, your arse would’ve been nice and toasty buns with the heated seat on the MT😂😂😉😎 Even the top spec Explorer edition is still cheaper… Cheap V-Strom it ain’t.
Not sure how a 230kg elephant would excel in dirt road. I believe it is quite in the same arena with BMW F850GS, 80% road with a slight off-road capability.
yes, I think that was Suzuki's aim for it because I know many riders like myself who go through dirt and gravel ok but not at big speed. That's "adventure" touring I guess
The 850 is a very similar bike but this bike is way better off-road. Is also much easier than a tenere but a bit less capable. You can check some video of people offroading with this bike.
What is this bike all about ❓- The wheels are TUBED - as a dealer "explained" to me - for tougher offroad conditions / stones...... Then why is it sold with purely ( ok 90% ) ROAD tyres ⁉⁉🥴🥴👈👈 If it's a touring bike for bad roads - yes +/- logical, but then - why NO CC ⁉⁉ Where is a PROPPER windshield ⁉⁉ In otrer words - WTF is this thing - really - what is this thing for ⁉⁉🤔🤔 Looks like the company has STINEGED out on important things. Half baked vehicle 🤷♀🤷♀
Being on my fourth V Strom and having ridden or owned each generation , I think it's the best V Strom yet. It's a home run for Suzuki.
It certainly brings in more choice when it comes to route planning and we love that about it.
add cruise control and tubeless tyres. Those are deal breakers for many of us. The right screen is such an individual thing I'd figure that out later. I traded my 2014 Vstrom 1000 at 7 years old for a KTM 790 Adventure S because it could give me CC and tubeless. (after all, who'd want to stop and take off the back wheel to put in a tube doing what these guys are doing in that weather?).
I do love the notion of a removable subframe
those are my gripes as well, why no cruise control on a touring bike like this??? i ride an 09 650vstrom and it is a great touring bike, but would love cruise on the long straights to rest my hand. mine of course has solid wheels so no tubes....why is it so hard for suzuki to add these 2 little items??
You have a point. Tubeless tyres are a real plus when off road, so perhaps that upgrade is in the wings. Oddly the big brother 1000DE get a tubeless reart only. Let's hope tubed tyres are on the way out. Really.
I agree with everything you said. My money won't be going on any brand new bikes until someone gets it all right.
What suprised me pleasantly that 800DE here in CZ, Europe is priced at Transalp level with already included extras so it is priced below Transalp (400 Euro), Tenere (1k Euro) and also Tuareg and 790 Adv which sounds to me like reaaly good value for the money
You certainly get your money's worth when it comes to bells and whistles here.
Spencer, you seemed more enthusiastic about the Aprillia Tuareg. What's your recommendation Vstrom, Tuareg or Tenere for 80/20 touring/adv/commuting?
He doesn't read the comments...
The Suzuki is the better tourer and commuter. The other two are more off-road oriented, not so forgiving on tarmac. They are better than the Suzuki off-road? Sure. But the Suzuki is also fine offroad and motor is a MUCH better commuter and tourer. For 80-20 the Suzuki si a no brainer. And the fact is beautiful helps.
All good choices, but the Aprilia Tuareg won the 2022 INFO MOTO Bike of the Year for solid reasons.
Yes. He does.@@veltruski
Not as off road focused as T7? It has more suspension travel than Yamaha and you say that? Do you think it has more travel front and back, full adjustability and a 21" front wheel for road performance? Nice job.
It gets a bit tiring how everyone just repeats the same crap. Rides bike 3 km down a road and they are suddenly an expert. Watch that guy from the USA who actually buys bikes and does in depth review, big rock moto I think he’s called. He just bought one of these so will be interesting to see his long term review. Very unbiased and professional reviewer
@@slakk5093 he says is very competent offroad. Not a tenere but also easier to pick up.
Thanks for the review! I have been invited to test ride the CFMOTO 800MT but I dont think it compares as the Suzuki Vstrom is built on a lot of history and all of it good! The CFMOTO yes is good value but its yet to to prove itself as strong and reliable as a Vstrom. As the song goes, its not about the money or the ba bling ba bling. lol P.S. The other thing people forget, RESALE! An 800DE will have far better resale value than a 800MT.
Hmmmm. You might be right on the resale value of the 800MT. For now...
I think you need to ride the Transalp on that road to see the difference.
after retiring my 08 klr from primary bike in 2017(150'000km) and getting on a dl650xt, I hope this model is as good on gravel and other loose surfaces as my old klr(trading the dl650, for a 800de). I absolutely never enjoyed dirt or gravel roads on the dl650, and really hope this unit is the answer.
Nice, would be nice to see you take it off-road also.
I'd love to hear the average fuel usage details over the course of the day ... 🤔🤔
I think im getting ready to buy one of these. The filter on the thumbnail got me. I thought there was a special edition gold one. I was like man i want that one lol
Thanks for the solid review. These big companies still don't get it, people today want cruise. What part of adventure touring don't they understand? Lol. I think it's going to end up being the Chinese that bring cruise control to the less expensive bikes. If the big guys won't give us what we want, someone else will. Including that unicorn 400cc bike. We will see.
Desperately needs tubeless rims.
I totally agree, and an 18" rear. The 21" & 17" wheel combo is confusing me.
@@emfl4437 A 17" rear is not a deal breaker for me at all. My current V-Strom has a 17" rear, and I have zero issues with that. But I don't plan on having tube-type tires on my bikes anymore, unless I was to buy a used DR or KLR.
Easy to fix. PU sealant and you have tubeless rims. I have it on my F800GS for 45.000km so far. Zero problems.
Awesome review on the Suzuki v-storm 800de!Hope for riders that are between 5’7 to 5’9 will have no problem with the v-storm 800de
I'm 5.7 and I have no problem. Maybe a little bit of reach needed for the handlebars
Well, like everything in the adventure category, it's not low. But Snag is 5'9 and he hasn't fallen off one yet...
Nice review! How is the wind noise? Does the short screen create buffetting?
No buffeting with the small windscreen cause you take all the wind. The Suzuki bigger windshield is crap. Take a puig or another one .
It's pretty good. It's kinda slim, but perfect in operation when sitting or standing up.
I like Suzuki's but 800cc and so heavy ?...my 2014 KTM 1190R Adv is 230 kg wet 😮...
this bike is nice....
it's not the covid tax but Euro pollution standards
so, for almost the same price, is this bike superior to the T7?
listening to you it looks more powerful + better suspension.
do you think it could be as reliable as the T7?
Is more powerful but less off-road oriented. And that for me is a plus. (It's also easier to pick up). Reliable, it's probably more reliable than the Yamaha.
The T7 is probably the pick on tougher off-road conditions. The Strom is the pick for easier off-road stuff and long km days.
I hope those Dirty Kiwis didn’t teach you how to tamper with Sheep.
Great Review.
Good to see Aussies for once.
Tally Ho
How does it compare with the CF Moto 800 you rode last year?
I think the Suzuki is more sure-footed, particularly on the dirt, and is a more 'finished' package all together. That said, the CFMOTO is roughly $4000 less expensive and so with that in mind it remains a great adventure bike option. As you may know, there is also a new CFMOTO 800MT Explore Edition which we'll be very keen to test. Details on that here: infomoto.com.au/news/2023-cfmoto-800mt-explore-edition-pricing-confirmed/
230 kg is a LOT, can you say something about the center of gravity? Is it easy to pick up?
The center of gravity is down low. It's easier to pickup than the tenere. Still a big bike tho.
Parallel twin, so there is a degree of weight centralised and high. If you can pick up a bike, you can pick up this one. It's technique for the most part.
Jesus Mary Joseph & Spencer! It’s a great bike but 18500 grand, makes the CFMoto 800MT Touring model look far more appealing. In those trying conditions my good man, your arse would’ve been nice and toasty buns with the heated seat on the MT😂😂😉😎 Even the top spec Explorer edition is still cheaper… Cheap V-Strom it ain’t.
18 k..the transalp is 16 k..
And probably 16 hours to get at the air filter ...😂
In Europe there 1050de comes with tubeless
Yea and here in US it will be $11,350
@@BBryker 14k here in ireland but we have 23%VRT vehicle registration Tax and 21% VAT Value Added Tax
only at the back wheel
@@BBryker : our $AUD is only getting about U.S. $0.62c atm. So equivalent on a dollar conversion basis.
Rear only though.
The whole country was used for Lord of the rings
Not sure how a 230kg elephant would excel in dirt road. I believe it is quite in the same arena with BMW F850GS, 80% road with a slight off-road capability.
yes, I think that was Suzuki's aim for it because I know many riders like myself who go through dirt and gravel ok but not at big speed. That's "adventure" touring I guess
The 850 is a very similar bike but this bike is way better off-road. Is also much easier than a tenere but a bit less capable. You can check some video of people offroading with this bike.
I reckon those numbers would reflect most useage.
What is this bike all about ❓- The wheels are TUBED - as a dealer "explained" to me - for tougher offroad conditions / stones...... Then why is it sold with purely ( ok 90% ) ROAD tyres ⁉⁉🥴🥴👈👈 If it's a touring bike for bad roads - yes +/- logical, but then - why NO CC ⁉⁉ Where is a PROPPER windshield ⁉⁉ In otrer words - WTF is this thing - really - what is this thing for ⁉⁉🤔🤔 Looks like the company has STINEGED out on important things. Half baked vehicle 🤷♀🤷♀
heavy...low performance specs...heavy, no cruise? tubes? honestly...thanx suzuki.