Ranking the Multiversus Roster by their Canon Power

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  • @thespagetguy
    @thespagetguy 4 місяці тому +344

    I kept thinking "This is when Morty is gonna show up." I really underestimated him.

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +64

      His tech carries

    • @adamhogan5442
      @adamhogan5442 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@KindaSubparevil morty would be way higher

  • @uniconwizardsb1122
    @uniconwizardsb1122 5 місяців тому +448

    I promise you an entire army of Banana Guards would perish one by one trying to capture a single Gremlin

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +81

      Banana pudding

    • @beywheelzhater8930
      @beywheelzhater8930 4 місяці тому +25

      They’d perish trying to catch a raccoon

    • @uniconwizardsb1122
      @uniconwizardsb1122 4 місяці тому +22

      @@beywheelzhater8930 they’d perish trying to catch. end of sentence

    • @beywheelzhater8930
      @beywheelzhater8930 4 місяці тому +24

      @@uniconwizardsb1122 they’d perish. End of sentence

    • @Skippymcskep
      @Skippymcskep 4 місяці тому +4

      ⁠@@beywheelzhater8930they’d. end of sentence.

  • @coolguyayden
    @coolguyayden 4 місяці тому +26

    Black Adam goes to #1 because it was in The Rock's contract that he was never allowed to lose a fight.

  • @macintosh5311
    @macintosh5311 5 місяців тому +622

    bugs bunny as number one is too perfect

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +64

      remaking the video rn and putting Finn at number 1

    • @_j4y.mp4
      @_j4y.mp4 5 місяців тому +34

      @@KindaSubparnah bugs should still be one tbh he has the power of toon force and he practically never dies

    • @Golden_Fran
      @Golden_Fran 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@KindaSubparNah, Superman and Bugs Bunny has a better feats
      Number 3 probably

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +16

      I was joking lol Wonder Woman slices him in half

    • @Ptuber.4386
      @Ptuber.4386 5 місяців тому +21

      @@KindaSubparwe got ourselves a rabbit hater

  • @DanielLovesArt
    @DanielLovesArt 5 місяців тому +141

    You do realise that nuke merely separated the Iron Giant's pieces, it didn't kill him? On top of that, he's not just made out of any generic metal, he's made out of a metal so strong that the rubble from an exploding planet only caused a small dent in his head. He should be significantly higher up on this list, he's damn near invincible, and incredibly powerful both with and without weapons.

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +43

      I may have downplayed him a bit with his description but I genuinely don’t think he can beat anyone above him

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому

      Can we do cosmology

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому +1

      Stvean higher

    • @Lomlomlomlomlom
      @Lomlomlomlomlom 4 місяці тому +2

      @@KindaSubparhe could 100%

    • @brokenbone9518
      @brokenbone9518 4 місяці тому

      lil bro got heated

  • @Wizardwarlock324
    @Wizardwarlock324 5 місяців тому +135

    Your gonna ignor the fact that steven survived falling from earth's upper atmospher while being crushed by all the earth's water that lapis held up, Most of the characters shouldn't even be able to bypass his bubble

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +27

      Kid Steven should get to multi Conti but his verse caps at star level which chars like Finn,bugs bunny,Taz,superman,wonder woman and Rick have higher calcs and feats

    • @Wizardwarlock324
      @Wizardwarlock324 4 місяці тому +5

      @@gameuniverse5973 Omni man can beat most of the characters you haven't listed by flying so fast that he lights the atmosphere on fire

    • @gabrielmbx9253
      @gabrielmbx9253 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Wizardwarlock324is funny beacuse in reality, only can defeat finn and maybe a rick drunked

    • @Wizardwarlock324
      @Wizardwarlock324 4 місяці тому +4

      @@gabrielmbx9253 Rick drunk is way more unpredictable. Omni man speed blitses finn but finn can oneshot. omni man is just a flying brick though so literally everone has a wider arsenal.

    • @LiQuid_FLurry
      @LiQuid_FLurry 4 місяці тому

      ilike power scaling but I do not understand this slang 😂

  • @LGOrtiz-c6n
    @LGOrtiz-c6n 5 місяців тому +470

    Lebron's actually real so he solos.

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +261

      Lebron sitting in a room alone ready to fight (none of the other characters exist)

    • @Wizardwarlock324
      @Wizardwarlock324 4 місяці тому +55

      @@KindaSubpar he's literally beyond them in a higher dimensional plane of existence

    • @PinkEndymion804
      @PinkEndymion804 4 місяці тому +29

      Dude, he can create his own reality at their strongest, and makes himself win against all of them if he writes an entire book about it, dude is real.

    • @truebreakage9003
      @truebreakage9003 4 місяці тому +4

      Based

    • @Choomba78
      @Choomba78 4 місяці тому +16

      Have you ever wondered why he's the only one that exists? It's because he already killed the other characters.

  • @Linear_Line_423
    @Linear_Line_423 5 місяців тому +215

    Honestly, there's a silver lining for the toonforce users. Whilst Bugs may be able to do anything, he can be outsmarted and outwitted, which is insane because he's the jokester. Technically, Taz is stronger than Bugs, and also not too bright, which allows him to push through more of Bugs' silly antics. However this isn't always the case, as Daffy is also not too smart and gets outwitted by Bugs more times than not. Another thing to note is that Taz shouldn't be as strong or on the same level as Mr. Mxy. While yes, Mxy was afraid of him, this was when he first showed up to the Looney Tunes universe. Wouldn't you be scared of a giant hairball trying to eat you as well? Its like scaling Daffy to Mxy because his anvil harmed him.

    • @itsfedorahere9985
      @itsfedorahere9985 5 місяців тому +19

      well there’s levels to toonforce too, mxy n bugs bein the strongest and guys like luffy from one piece being the weakest.

    • @Yeahmydude10
      @Yeahmydude10 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@itsfedorahere9985bro when has luffy ever had toon force

    • @Aiden-qo8op
      @Aiden-qo8op 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Yeahmydude10gear 5

    • @Yeahmydude10
      @Yeahmydude10 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Aiden-qo8op ehh that's more like small scale reality manipulation

    • @Aiden-qo8op
      @Aiden-qo8op 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Yeahmydude10 isn’t that what toonforce is?

  • @joshithehealermii5230
    @joshithehealermii5230 4 місяці тому +57

    I didn't even consider how seriously powerful and broken Jake really was just by pure, natural strenght and feats, I always thought he was stronger than Finn but he just didn't get to showcase it often since he's the more chill and laidback of the two brothers, but this video reminded me of some of the crazy stuff he just randomly comes up with
    He's almost perfectly similar to Plastic Man, two shapeshifting, super chill and cool dudes who would be a incredibly serious threats if they just took things more seriously

    • @infinityheart_tm9270
      @infinityheart_tm9270 4 місяці тому +3

      Which means he would be durable enough to do Shrink-And-Grow. Just like Plastic-Man.

  • @kai_3788
    @kai_3788 5 місяців тому +170

    I know that you said you might be a little biased when ranking Steven since you’re not a fan of the series or the character, but ranking him lower than Jason is crazy.

    • @Derp-rz1nn
      @Derp-rz1nn 4 місяці тому +41

      Fr, Steven had some insane strength feats, he casually survived being smashed into concrete, or had a giant stone statue thrown into him, or being able to set off a airbag with a single hit, or his small healing factor, or is nearly 100% invincible shield and bubble

    • @kai_3788
      @kai_3788 4 місяці тому +32

      @@Derp-rz1nn that’s not going into his real high level stuff. This is clearly kid Steven so we can say that this could be a version season 5 Steven. Even without going into Finale stuff, he was able to take an attack from Yellow only getting knocked out, which is something that’s at least comparable to Alexandrite who was knocked out by Blue. If we do go into Finale territory, below Jason is the biggest downgrade you could give to him.

    • @Derp-rz1nn
      @Derp-rz1nn 4 місяці тому +3

      @@kai_3788 exactly

    • @AnthonyONeill-h6u
      @AnthonyONeill-h6u 4 місяці тому +2

      …And BATMAN 😂😭😭😭😭

    • @ladellcalhoun9415
      @ladellcalhoun9415 4 місяці тому +5

      @@kai_3788if we go to future finale he’s definitely top 5 of the list

  • @Flahgybro
    @Flahgybro 5 місяців тому +159

    My 2 pieces of information I’m gonna throw out here:
    1. I think shaggy actually isn’t skinny and is just packing super lean muscle. He eats, A LOT. Yet he is the skinniest person there, most likely from having super high metabolism, or just him burning through all the calories with all the running he does. Now this might be wrong but I swear on my life I remember fred saying that he and shaggy met because they played football together. That MIGHT be wrong and I’m just misremembering things but I swear I heard that. So yeah Shaggy clears Lebron.
    2. Between Bugs and Superman it’s quite honestly a tie. Bugs Toonforce is cataclysmically strong, but superman has villains who can break the 4th wall and have abilities similar to if not equal to bugs bunny. Take Mxyzptlk, he is able to transform reality into whatever he wants with a snap of his fingers, and while he often only does this to toy around with superman he has actually gone 1v1 with him before. Has he ever won these encounters? No, but he never lost either. Bugs trickery is something Superman would VERY MUCH be familiar with and could potentially outwit him into his own demise. So realistically those 2 are quite even.

    • @powersurge_beast
      @powersurge_beast 5 місяців тому

      @@Flahgybro dudes skinny as fuck

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking 4 місяці тому +12

      na bro superman gets knocked out by the comically large hammer.

    • @daniexists6
      @daniexists6 4 місяці тому +11

      I think the major difference between Superman and Bugs can be easily explained by one of the DC/Looney Tunes crossovers.
      Bugs ended up being abducted by the Legion of Superheroes and brought to the future in Superboy's place, and while he helped them eventually, he was also able to incapacitate multiple members of the team, including Ultra Boy, who is a metahuman on par with a Kryptonian, only for Ultra Boy to get the same kind of double talk treatment that he usually saves for Daffy. And he fell for it.

  • @Nervkeks
    @Nervkeks 5 місяців тому +142

    It is lunacy, that we got black adam, but not captain marvel/shazam.

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +57

      Definitely a weird choice but they literally only did it because the movie was coming out

    • @ERROR5600
      @ERROR5600 5 місяців тому +6

      Captain Marvel is Marvel not DC and Warner Bros has access to DC so that’s why they probably haven’t and won’t use them but Shazam might come

    • @Nervkeks
      @Nervkeks 5 місяців тому +33

      @@ERROR5600 captain marvel is shazam, marvel stole the name and dc cant use it as a title do to Trademark reasons.
      In the year 1940 the character captain marvel was created by fawcett comics and was bought by dc. Marvels captain marvel was created in 1967 and that wasnt even carol danvers.

    • @Zenitsuagatsuma-san
      @Zenitsuagatsuma-san 5 місяців тому +2

      you could say it’s LOONY

    • @Clayinator
      @Clayinator 5 місяців тому +4

      It’s Surprising that we still haven’t gotten Robin or any the Teen Titans.

  • @anthonyrodriguez8788
    @anthonyrodriguez8788 4 місяці тому +16

    I feel like you've really REALLY low balled Steven here.
    Even ignoring his Pink form Steven is fast enough to blur the human eye, his shield can slice through marble like its made of paper, and he scales to Bismuth in terms of speed who can block beams of light, and after losing the vast majority of his powers he is still strong enough to partially lift a Skyscraper sized drill filled with liquid before his powers turn off completely.
    And with his Pink Form the guy is able to see people like Garnet and Bismuth in slow motion despite the fact that they can block beams of light.

  • @DJefjam500
    @DJefjam500 3 місяці тому +1

    9:35 I hope that never gets old

  • @2ndspringtube708
    @2ndspringtube708 5 місяців тому +31

    After rewatching old Tom and Jerry and some looney tunes ,from my experience at least toonforce seems to be something that’s in favor of the prey against the hunter ,the reason bugs did all that and survived and almost won eveytime is that he mostly is the prey to others like Elmer taz etc ,but in rare cases like rhapsody rabbit ,he isn’t the prey ,but acts more like a hunter ,and so in that one short ,he actually lost and got exhausted(also when a character like Jerry for example gets too ignorant and abuse thier “toonforce” they seem to lose it)

    • @beywheelzhater8930
      @beywheelzhater8930 4 місяці тому +17

      Toon force runs on a “just desserts” clause
      It doesn’t matter how you spin it, if you deserve to lose or if it would be funny for you to lose, you will
      It is why I think the question of Bugs v Superman depends on one thing and one thing only. Which Superman? A more angsty version is sorta a coinflip if they will have Bugs beat this impossible foe or do a gag of him running away for a whole episode while hitting Supes with kryptonite frying pans
      But Supes as his classic icon of heroism self? That Superman would win 9/10 times because how can you spit in the eye of the world’s greatest hero and be considered the just party?

    • @44SteveYT
      @44SteveYT 3 місяці тому +1

      Honestly I think all toon force characters are higher than everyone else

    • @44SteveYT
      @44SteveYT 3 місяці тому +1

      @@beywheelzhater8930 PFFFT BUGS IS IMMORTAL. AND CAN MANIPULATE REALITY ITSELF IN HIS BASE
      The only versions of bugs that I don't think can do that is like:
      Looney Tunes Cartoons (bugs is a bit weaker there not immortal)
      The Looney Tunes Show
      Parodies of Bugs
      Looney Tunes back in action

    • @beywheelzhater8930
      @beywheelzhater8930 3 місяці тому +1

      @@44SteveYT Yes, he can manipulate reality and is immortal. However, not only has Superman outwitted reality warping tricksters before but
      You aren’t even considering the unsaid rules of Toon Force. Rules even Bugs is vulnerable to that cause the king to temporarily lose his ground and end up on the receiving end of slapstick
      Within that, if Bugs goes up against a Superman who serves as the icon he was originally, a Superman who’s vestige is one of hope and the best humanity has to offer, Bugs could never do anything to beat him because doing that would inherently make Bugs a bad guy.
      In a game of comedy, the bad guy is the loser. Bugs killing Superman would be an unhappy ending because of what a peak written Superman stands for, thus even if he outmatches Superman his ability to win will entirely depend on how much of an icon that version of Superman is
      This is all, of course, assuming Bugs CAN kill a non-toon while keeping it comical because comedy is the key to a fun lord’s powerset

  • @PeiceofNick
    @PeiceofNick 4 місяці тому +3

    Great video, cant wait to see you do a potential follow up once Season 2 wraps up after it comes out.

  • @opadrip
    @opadrip 4 місяці тому +15

    I can picture Rick preparing a device or enhancement that gives him the toon force to fight other toons, or even take it away entirely, leaving them average human level.

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv 4 місяці тому +4

      I mean, Toons are toons, he aint winning

    • @lolstalgic9602
      @lolstalgic9602 4 місяці тому +3

      Knowing Rick, he'd probably just steal a sample of the Dip from "Roger Rabbit" and synthesize into a bullet.
      OR use it on himself

    • @44SteveYT
      @44SteveYT 3 місяці тому +1

      @@lolstalgic9602 I don't think the dip from roger rabbit can kill like bugs bunny or tom and jerry level of toons

    • @lolstalgic9602
      @lolstalgic9602 3 місяці тому

      @@44SteveYT Except they were in Roger Rabbit, which means the creator of the Dip knew about them

    • @AE_15x
      @AE_15x Місяць тому

      @@AzumarillConGafasBv he literally outsmarted plot manipulators and won against them in the series..

  • @bober_maget6793
    @bober_maget6793 4 місяці тому +2

    Great list. I was skeptical with some of the spots, such as Batman. But you gave solid points, definitely deserves a like.

  • @izzytheartist4710
    @izzytheartist4710 5 місяців тому +46

    The middle of this list is out of wack. Jason

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +17

      Not too knowledgeable on Steven tbf
      Base forms, no robot hand, no grass sword, Jake Wins

    • @Sydanny.
      @Sydanny. 5 місяців тому +13

      Yeah he's talking before finn lost his arm, so his lack of experiance and dependency on jake in the first seasons (where finn is canonically younger I.e 12 in season 1) makes him weaker than jake in his MV form.

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@KindaSubparkid Steven being above a peak lapis who with a broken gem already shown with calcs to move a Conti to higher ocean while Jason can't even get past large city with Jason x

    • @nicholasaugello2534
      @nicholasaugello2534 4 місяці тому +1

      Finn and Jake are generally portrayed as being relative to each other Jake being a bit stronger than Finn but Grass sword Finn would or robot arm fin would beat Jake if he could beat Fern who conically should be far stronger than Jake

    • @izzytheartist4710
      @izzytheartist4710 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KindaSubpar you used grass sword feats in the video... Also, Finn can use his thorn without the grass sword

  • @Timelineofcards
    @Timelineofcards 3 місяці тому +1

    Note:
    Garnet has Future Vision and also has been seen generating electricity.

  • @ultradeathboy
    @ultradeathboy 4 місяці тому +109

    I can definitely tell that you didn't watch Steven universe, because even as a young kid he was able to defeat what are basically the frieza's of his universe

    • @monkeybara
      @monkeybara 4 місяці тому +6

      His placement is still kinda right.

    • @ultradeathboy
      @ultradeathboy 4 місяці тому +18

      ​@@monkeybarawhat has Jason or iron giant ever done that's better than defeating tyrants capable of destroying the world?

    • @IDK-qq7ct
      @IDK-qq7ct 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ultradeathboyPersonally, i just don’t see kid Steven beating Jason since that dude has Immorality. I don’t think Steven has a weapon that can permanently kill Jason.
      Plus, most of his arsenal consist of defensive weapons. The only viable weapon he has is the cannon, but that requires to charge it up if I’m not mistaken.
      Jason himself is decently durable, and can likely survive most of Steven’s attacks. Yeah, Steven is also durable but i don’t think he has ever gotten stab by a real weapon (especially with someone who’s physically stronger)

    • @focainflablec1400
      @focainflablec1400 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@IDK-qq7ct He could just bubble him

    • @JustAThought1997
      @JustAThought1997 4 місяці тому +6

      @@ultradeathboy
      Didn’t he convince them to be good Or smth like that?
      You’re acting like he singlehandedly killed them all

  • @JonathanRodriguez-ys3mn
    @JonathanRodriguez-ys3mn 3 місяці тому +1

    Crazy that Rick went below Black Adam and Wonder Woman

  • @DenderFriend
    @DenderFriend 5 місяців тому +43

    Steven in the endgame definitely gets a lot higher, he'd be at least under Finn

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +2

      No not even close Finn in early seasons gets to star level to higher while Steven only gets to large planetary in the end of the series kid Steven is like moon level

    • @turkeybeef6269
      @turkeybeef6269 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@gameuniverse5973his shield no diffed a tri-diamomd blast which has been calced anywhere from star-solar, and overpowered a similar laser fired from White, which would be greater if not equal to the Tri-Diamond blast.

  • @IDKALaN96
    @IDKALaN96 5 місяців тому +4

    This was a great video, I like the effort you put into it.

  • @chasicleso4963
    @chasicleso4963 3 місяці тому +1

    iron giant took that nuke wdym. just hadto rebuild himself by getting each of his parts back

  • @oblivion715
    @oblivion715 3 місяці тому +1

    Garnet is also resistant to fire. She swims in lava, and according to the writers the sun as well. She's also deflected lightning. And don't forget that Garnet is clairvoyant.

  • @razorstar7399
    @razorstar7399 3 місяці тому +1

    Lets not forget Harley has a healing factor

  • @grimace3983
    @grimace3983 4 місяці тому +24

    you know the op written characters and cartoon characters that defy logic would be at the top. still glad to see finn a bit more than halfway up the list tho, dude is incredibly tough and strong for a 12-14 year old human boy in a world of utter insanity and chaos. def one of my fav protagonists in any show

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +3

      Finns just insanely tough

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking 4 місяці тому +1

      tbf tho if we're ignoring bias, alot of his powers and further skills are due to prep/weapon and gear types which he probably wouldnt have in most scenarios similar to how joker, batman and rick are lower

  • @jo2003se
    @jo2003se 4 місяці тому +2

    14:57
    I like how you remembered these little feats, because even if they seem kinda minor, inosuke has showed us how moving our insides around is very useful for surviving murder

  • @jonaspovilionis4995
    @jonaspovilionis4995 3 місяці тому +2

    15:31 made me laught so hard

  • @funmaster8459
    @funmaster8459 5 місяців тому +19

    Honestly hear me out rq, I feel like banana guard would be above velma(and MAYBE Lebron) due to the fact that they have shown to be able to get relatively strong, and also a base form banana guard did knock out jake with one punch.

  • @helixsol7171
    @helixsol7171 4 місяці тому +4

    Jason didn't *_just_* inexplicably come back after Jason Goes to Hell, he came back because Freddy brought him back. There's still not much explanation on how he did that, but he did.

  • @moistmalarkey1067
    @moistmalarkey1067 4 місяці тому +2

    The iron giant survived the nuke at the end. He was pulling himself back together. But he did get KO'd I guess.

  • @manupm9161
    @manupm9161 3 місяці тому +1

    I agree with the Steven Universe placement, if he used all his potential, he could easily be in the top 5, however, he won't, he'll only use the minimum power necessary to just beat the enemy without killing them, so yes, he would struggle against an unstoppable assassin's like Jason Bourhees

  • @JohnMillers
    @JohnMillers 3 місяці тому +1

    Wonder what rank BeetleJuice would be in?

  • @hoagieland3716
    @hoagieland3716 4 місяці тому +22

    Doesn’t Superman in the comics canonically have “unlimited power” thereby making him even stronger than toon force and by extension Bugs Bunny?

    • @thegentlegiant9459
      @thegentlegiant9459 4 місяці тому +4

      If he did have “unlimited power” why when he turns evil he almost always loses

    • @hoagieland3716
      @hoagieland3716 4 місяці тому +13

      @@thegentlegiant9459 I don’t remember who said it (it might’ve been Stan Lee), but he said something along the lines of “power scaling is irrelevant because the winner of any two character fighting will be whoever the writer/director wants to win” so like theoretically a rouge evil Superman is literally unstoppable, but practically no writer/director will ever actually do that because it’s not interesting to have literally unharmable infinite power dude just wipes out existence with his fingertips

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking 4 місяці тому +1

      unlimited power doesnt mean he has certain powers.

    • @safe6278
      @safe6278 4 місяці тому

      Yeah "toon force" Is simply exaggerated since most of them are universe level threats at best

    • @imrobinfr.31
      @imrobinfr.31 4 місяці тому +1

      yes he does

  • @Sleepymaster73
    @Sleepymaster73 5 місяців тому +7

    I LOVE YOU 🥳💗 keep up the good work

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +2

      Your comments keep this channel alive 🫡

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому

      Finn higher

  • @darkreflection9087
    @darkreflection9087 3 місяці тому +1

    Makes sense that Bugs Bunny is number one because Toon Force is one of the most op powers ever and Bugs Bunny is really good at using Toon Force and he’s been using it for a long time
    Edit seriously almost any character with Toon Force can solo all of fiction

  • @beef81263
    @beef81263 3 місяці тому +1

    The Iron Giant can also regenerate.

  • @BokiJuda
    @BokiJuda 4 місяці тому +1

    YES! FINALLY someone claims Gremlins IS a Christmas movie like I do! Nice work

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +1

      Top tier Christmas movie

  • @czms922
    @czms922 4 місяці тому +2

    The way Steven would dog walk Jason Voorhees yeah you undersold him hard

  • @davidpescitelli8004
    @davidpescitelli8004 4 місяці тому +2

    Tom and Jerry actually have a constellation feat similar to Martin. In Tom and Jerry Tales episode Cat Nebula the episode ends with Tom and Jerry blowing up in space turning into constellations where they are still alive and Tom continues to chase Jerry through space. No idea how to calc that though.

  • @PaoEmForma
    @PaoEmForma 4 місяці тому +1

    As soon as i read the title, i KNEW bugs was in 1st.
    Really well made video btw

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +1

      Huge thanks PaoEmForma

    • @PaoEmForma
      @PaoEmForma 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@KindaSubpar no problem man!

  • @oofjeff3735
    @oofjeff3735 5 місяців тому +7

    Iron giant litearly survived the nuke at the end of the movie, does this guy not do resesrch before making his videos lmao

    • @ultradeathboy
      @ultradeathboy 4 місяці тому +6

      Considering he ranked shaggy super low just because his powers are based off memes
      And he straight up said he barely watched Steven universe, nor did he watch space jam

    • @eugenekrabs141
      @eugenekrabs141 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ultradeathboy I mean yeah. Meme power isn't actual canon power. In fact he should have ranked Shaggy lower because the only reason he beat the bikers is because he got hit with a rock that made him lose his fear.

  • @RaisinHook
    @RaisinHook 4 місяці тому +1

    I mean it's pretty cut and dry that Marvin, Taz, Bugs, Tom, Jerry, & maybe Lebron all share the top spot with Toon Forse, Rick & maybe Morty are a close second with the 4th wall shenanigans, and Shaggy is in 3rd due to the Ultra Instinct joke which can be classified as a lesser Toon Forse
    everything else tracks

  • @joncents2000
    @joncents2000 4 місяці тому +3

    When I skipped to the quarter half of the end of your video and saw Superman, I literally said, "God damn it, I bet it's Bug Bunny,"
    Little did I know...

  • @justjames4
    @justjames4 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm not familiar with all the characters, but this analysis doesn't seem bad based on what I know. Nice video. 👍

  • @SariasEpona
    @SariasEpona 4 місяці тому +2

    Banana guards getting in before Marceline is actually absurd

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +1

      My thoughts exactly

    • @SariasEpona
      @SariasEpona 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KindaSubpar you'd think we would at least get her or ice king (mostly her because she has so many cool abilities) 😔 but amazing video just the reminder of the banana guard being in the game...man that hit different

  • @Yakonsupremacy
    @Yakonsupremacy 3 місяці тому +1

    I mean scaling wise… lebron is boundless unironically

  • @matthewosterman9030
    @matthewosterman9030 5 місяців тому +2

    Yes the list we needed

  • @ZERODE11
    @ZERODE11 5 місяців тому +6

    You should do this again but with variants that change the character

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +6

      If this games still going in a year or so I’ll definitely revisit with new games/all cosmetics

  • @sourcandee2926
    @sourcandee2926 4 місяці тому +3

    Why the HELL is shaggy that low

  • @Golden_Fran
    @Golden_Fran 5 місяців тому +10

    This is my Top Based in My Scalings 🗣🔥
    1- Bugs 🤝 Superman
    2- Wonder Woman
    3- Finn (Comics Carry)
    4- Black Adam
    5- Batman
    6- Rick Sanchez
    7- Tom & Jerry
    8- Marvin
    9- Taz
    10- Jake
    11- Morty
    12- Jason (MK Carry)
    13- Steven Universe
    14- Shaggy (Toon Force Carry)
    15- Garnet
    16- Iron Giant
    17- Joker
    18- Harley Quinn
    19- Raindog
    20- Arya Stark
    21- Velma
    22- Stripe
    23- LeBron James
    24- Gizmo
    25- Banana Guard
    Nice video Man 🔥

    • @aidaniscreative636
      @aidaniscreative636 4 місяці тому +5

      Lebron solos because he is real 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥(joke)

    • @unfixedgalaxy5816
      @unfixedgalaxy5816 4 місяці тому +1

      Brodie neither batman or finn are beating rick
      (Batman might with prep time but still)

    • @truebreakage9003
      @truebreakage9003 4 місяці тому

      ​@@aidaniscreative636nah you're right

    • @Sinislovesbillcypher.
      @Sinislovesbillcypher. 4 місяці тому

      ​@@unfixedgalaxy5816 finn could freaking out speed and one shot Rick. Even with prep, he cannot solo. Finn doesn't really have any weakness except oceans.

  • @SleeveNash17
    @SleeveNash17 4 місяці тому +2

    another peak vid man keep it up

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +1

      Big thanks man 🫡

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому

      Ngl this list in my opinion is kind of bad love the idea and but the placement

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому +2

      Love your vids

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому

      @@Fearedits-q8c thanks I think

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому +1

      @@SleeveNash17 you welcome I think

  • @dr.unventor
    @dr.unventor 4 місяці тому +1

    This listing is way better than I expected honestly. My only real gripe is that I feel like the iron giant is a bit too low. Like garnet above the iron giant is kind of crazy, but other than that this is pretty much perfect.

  • @AnimeWalterWhite
    @AnimeWalterWhite 4 місяці тому +50

    Now hold on a second, Jason ain’t beating Steven

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +7

      Jason x is only large city at best while kid Steven scales to multi Conti broken gem lapis

    • @AnimeWalterWhite
      @AnimeWalterWhite 4 місяці тому +8

      @@gameuniverse5973 I don’t even know about large city,but Steven can turn into a kaiju, that’s not in the game but still there

    • @TheIdiotFr0102
      @TheIdiotFr0102 4 місяці тому

      @@AnimeWalterWhiteyoung Steven

    • @AnimeWalterWhite
      @AnimeWalterWhite 4 місяці тому

      @@TheIdiotFr0102 what of him?

    • @turkeybeef6269
      @turkeybeef6269 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@TheIdiotFr0102Young Steven knocked dazed Yellow with his shield, who's equal to Blue who basically bodied the gems. His shield is also blocking like 90% of the characters in this game without difficulty

  • @retierashia
    @retierashia 4 місяці тому +2

    Respect for trying to powerscale Toon Force and normal characters. That must’ve been frustrating choosing where they place.

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +1

      It most definitely was. Super inconsistent feats lmao

  • @names_CR
    @names_CR 4 місяці тому +1

    0:04 ik damn well u chose those specific characters because half the roster is also in fortnite. i do prefer multiversus over fortnite, but if ur talking about video game collabs, and talking about how vast and ridiculous they are, u gotta give it to fortnite

  • @Preteristboy
    @Preteristboy 4 місяці тому +2

    Caveat: Shaggy was hypnotized in the barfight scene, and as such, we cannot count any of the feats in this scene as part of his base toolkit.

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +8

      @@Preteristboy dint they literally say that the hypnosis can't make him do what he can't actually do physically with it just being a confidence booster not a amp to his stats

    • @deshomnoel2352
      @deshomnoel2352 4 місяці тому

      I don’t think you can rank shaggy without addressing his meme.

  • @KevinDuan7
    @KevinDuan7 4 місяці тому +1

    I just love the fact that Multiversus gives us all these characters with crazy cartoony feats and also we can play as Lebron James

  • @danic_c
    @danic_c 4 місяці тому +1

    Finn would actually be an excellent Green Lantern. His willpower to continue trucking in the face of extreme fear and agonizing pain would make him pretty good at using the ring.

  • @Wetpainte
    @Wetpainte 4 місяці тому +1

    They need to add goku

  • @gazmanedits
    @gazmanedits 3 місяці тому +2

    how tf is shaggy weaker than joker

  • @matblackadventures
    @matblackadventures 4 місяці тому +8

    Steven should've been higher but you acknowledged there was some bias / lack of info. Otherwise good list in my opinion.
    Also out of interest where would you place Agent Smith?

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +3

      The bias was a joke more or less lmao, but yea I haven’t watched the show all the way through
      As someone who hasn’t watched the matrix im also not too knowledgeable, but I’d assume somewhere from Jason-Morty

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@KindaSubparliterally the first season shows a Conti level feat to higher than kid Steven massively overscales

  • @silverlion1269
    @silverlion1269 4 місяці тому

    Just an addition, Iron Giant survived the nuke without injury only blowing him apart like the train did

  • @zigy556nooby8
    @zigy556nooby8 3 місяці тому +1

    Tom and Jerry should’ve been 2nd they r just as strong as bugs bunny

  • @fairveiga1440
    @fairveiga1440 3 місяці тому +1

    we all know that shaggy is cannonecly the strongest

  • @hamburgerlord7849
    @hamburgerlord7849 4 місяці тому

    Since nobody has done so yet here's my analysis of Agent Smith, coming as a pretty big matrix fan: Top 10 for sure, scales around the same area as batman.
    Assuming he has full access to his matrix powers (Like he does in MVS), things get pretty bonkers; He can duplicate himself infinitely, ignore gravity, freeze time, and easily punch trough concrete. Smith essentially has complete control over the world around him, which makes sense given that he's an AI tasked with removing threats to the simulated matrix world.
    For his ranking, i think the same level as Batman is fair. Theyre both hyper intelligent, master martial artists, and can keep up with light-speed opponents. While smith lacks a lot of attack potency, he's pretty much unkillable, the inverse of batman who has a very high attack power but is still very mortal. Jason doesnt have anything to counter planetary-level opponents, which is why hes not any higher on this list.
    This is my analysis at least, if you have any questions let me know!

  • @seansworldnew2655
    @seansworldnew2655 5 місяців тому +49

    Tom and jerry below black Adam is mad 😭🙏🏾

    • @bugsy2515
      @bugsy2515 5 місяців тому +6

      I lost it at that part of the video, but it's a pretty good ranking nonetheless!

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому +18

      Comic book characters are pretty crazy. Black Adam has blown straight through the Spectres head (a godlike being in dc) and Tom and Jerry isn’t as consistently powerful of a verse as other toons

    • @bugsy2515
      @bugsy2515 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@KindaSubpar I'm not sure if Tom's ability to take a certain shape of the object that hit him, or straight up shattering like glass, but then being in one piece a few seconds later would be able to tank through somethin' like that, but I don't think he would necessarily lose, since he seems immovable to a regard, but I think that goes characters with toon force in general.

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking 4 місяці тому +3

      fr black aadam would strike him with lightning, he turns into a fried spikey cat, blinks twice then shakes it off.

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 4 місяці тому

      Any dc characters from overs loney toons any day

  • @thefraserthing1839
    @thefraserthing1839 4 місяці тому +1

    This should be a battle royal like the Pokémon battle royal

  • @valenry
    @valenry 4 місяці тому +1

    Wait until uncle grandpa gets in multiversus

  • @lanceams483
    @lanceams483 5 місяців тому +17

    I think the Gems from Steven Universe are stronger than we think, and I haven't watched the show much. I'd say Garnet is at least stronger than Finn, and with Steven it's hard to tell as a lot of the feats he has are depending on when this Steven is from. Overall though I think this is a pretty good ranking based on canon powers, you could swap a few around and it still work, but that's the nature of these types of lists.
    If we were to add Agent Smith to the list though, I'd say he ranks mid to high. He'd be higher if it weren't for the fact that he's basically a computer in a giant computer, and when you take that computer out of the bigger computer, I think a lot of his abilities drastically drop in power or what he can do. If he could go all out, with the cloning and "teleporting," I could see him getting far. Neo still beat him in the first movie, though that was after being basically killed by him and coming back to life. The third film has Smith at his strongest, and he still got beat, though he didn't use all his clones in that final fight, they just watched. The second film has him use the clones in a horde attack on Neo, but he still got beat pretty handily. That being said, he still has his insane punches in Multiversus, his Agent dodge, and some form of teleportation in his recovery. I think he'd come just short of Tom & Jerry, but still beat Batman on a good day.

    • @Derp-rz1nn
      @Derp-rz1nn 4 місяці тому +3

      Steven sorta had super strength and durability, he doesn’t use it much till he’s older but he’s still able to casually lift a box of supplies that 2 grown men struggled with, or he walked off being smashed into concrete from 30 or so feet in the air

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Derp-rz1nnSteven scales above a lapis fused jasper who lapis with ful strength scales over her broken gem variant who moved a low ball Conti level area of force to make that water pillar

    • @gabrielmbx9253
      @gabrielmbx9253 4 місяці тому

      Nah, finn is more strenge, finn scale to planet level, and steven a diamond, in the final of the serie, scale to the same level, im think garnet stay in the correct place

    • @ultradeathboy
      @ultradeathboy 4 місяці тому +2

      Think of it like this: Lapis when her gem was cracked was able to steal the entire ocean, her race of gems are literally known for terraforming planets, literally cutting through earth with just their water powers.
      Lapiz fused with jasper, becoming malachite. Malachite lost to Alexandria, Alexandria was no diffed by blue diamonds powers (which do affect other diamonds as well)
      Blue diamond and yellow diamond were both no diffed together by white diamond(albeit because of her mind control powers but even before that, they were scared of her)
      White diamond then got no diffed by pink Steven

  • @MVSfrosty
    @MVSfrosty 5 місяців тому +3

    I could see why Finn could be at 12 but I think he deserves at least top 10 tho-

  • @Preteristboy
    @Preteristboy 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm also not a huge fan of toon force when being factored into fights and abilities, as it implies it's some sort of force that can be consciously tapped into. Rather, it's a double-edged sword that runs off of Rule of Funny, subverting expectations, and karma. Could Bugs Bunny saw off the entirety of Florida? Only if it's funny, but then he'll have the entire U.S. army on his tail, having him running for dear life. And in the short where he snapped the animator's brush, he was still being tormented by the animator all throughout. His tormentor? Elmer Fudd.
    Again, Rule of Funny and by extension toon force as a whole is a double-edged sword whose power comes with a tiny yet significant Comic Sans asterisk.

  • @AlonzoTompkins
    @AlonzoTompkins 5 місяців тому +2

    Yeah Agent Smith won’t get high on this list. But if we pull his powers from the Matrix and keep them functioning the same outside of it, he’d be a very high threat level. But it’s doubtful they’d work like that. So he’s near the bottom. Around Jason level.

  • @macewindu6853
    @macewindu6853 4 місяці тому +2

    Agent smith assuming that he’s basically just as powerful outside of the matrix is gonna put him in the top 10 easily

  • @Alcholic_cat
    @Alcholic_cat 4 місяці тому

    13:12 by that logic joker is number 1 because of batman who laughs, and steven solo’s because someone’s fanfic had him become god

  • @jagerzaku9160
    @jagerzaku9160 4 місяці тому

    Steven is nearly indestructible.

  • @evanwirth7881
    @evanwirth7881 4 місяці тому +1

    I would put Harley between Lebron and Shaggy TBH and she CANNOT compete with Batman and Nightwing, they both take her down in one motion, as you can see in the Arkham games (SSKTJL is not cannon)

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
    @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 4 місяці тому +2

    Ok, a few things, putting Jake so far above Finn makes no sense since it was shown that they have relativity to each other in Who Would Win and Together Again
    Also if Steven is at all relative to Lapis (I'm not sure since I haven't gotten that far in the show yet) that would put him right behind Finn at Multi Continental, since Lapis was able to lift all of Earth's oceans into the sky, as well as flying to Homeworld in an implied short period of time.
    Also also, putting Batman above Finn for "beating up guys who can lift 15 tons" is crazy.
    And ain't no way does Bugs have any Outerversal or Immeasurable feats that put him above Superman and Wonder Woman

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 місяці тому +1

      Finn should be star level to higher since he no sell a 4d black hole while kid Steven does scale to Conti and multi Conti but does not compare to Finn universal to multi scaling

  • @salt5537
    @salt5537 4 місяці тому +1

    This is a really good video, a few things however; you forgot to mention that Stripe can multiply and create town levels of gremlins just by getting wet, the Jason they use in multiversus is a human based off the human tag they give him, so I’m not sure if you should be counting his zombie feats but his move set has countless references to what he does as a zombie so I’m not even sure, and lastly, Superman should be at #1 since at this point, every mainline Superman is canon therefore every crazy feat he does counts! Bugs’ toonforce is crazy at around universal or higher, but Superman has displayed many multiversal+ feats that can even go way beyond that, based off stats alone Superman should be at #1. Check out the Superman vs Goku death battle 3 for more :)

    • @PaoEmForma
      @PaoEmForma 4 місяці тому +1

      I think superman and bugs are equally powerful tbh

    • @Sinislovesbillcypher.
      @Sinislovesbillcypher. 4 місяці тому

      ​@@PaoEmFormabugs bunny is actually way slower than superman, way weaker than superman in terms of strength, and way dumber than superman. What could bugs bunny do, before superman packs bugs bunny up in less than a nanosecond?

    • @PaoEmForma
      @PaoEmForma 4 місяці тому

      @@Sinislovesbillcypher. Bugs bunny can be as fast as the animator desires, as strong as the script wants, and he is the smartest of the looney tunes.
      It's actually incredible how many ways bugs can get out of situations

  • @justadel2
    @justadel2 4 місяці тому +1

    A few things I'd change, do to the fact you said its the versions used Shaggy is definitely top 3 and LeBron. Steven is incredibly biased being below Jason is insane. Iron Giant should alsos be farther up. Batman is also way too high. Toon force is rather good and putting them higher would be a good idea. So this is my ranking.
    #26 Gizmo
    #25 Banana Guard
    #24 Velma
    #23 Stripe
    #22 Harley Quinn
    #21 Joker
    #20 Reindog
    #19 Jason Vorhees
    #18 Morty Smith
    #17 Batman (That was insane takes)
    #16 Arya Stark (Copy abilities)
    #15 The Iron Giant
    #14 Garnet
    #13 Finn the Human
    #12 Steven Universe
    #11 Jake the Dog
    #10 LeBron James
    #9 Rick Sanchez
    #8 Tom & Jerry
    #7 Marvin the Martian
    #6 Wonder Woman
    #5 Black Adam
    #4 Taz
    #3 Superman
    #2 Shaggy Rogers
    #1 Bugs Bunny

  • @mayawalton4962
    @mayawalton4962 4 місяці тому

    Fun fact, the idea of the iron giant came from when the creator thought of what if you gave a gun a soul it’s obviously way more into the story than that but for the most part, that’s what the giant is a destroyer was given a soul and went against his purpose

  • @AwesomeMooseSmile
    @AwesomeMooseSmile 5 місяців тому +2

    I think shaggy should be higher, because unlike Velma, he has some pretty decent showings in his series, even if it's not to the same level of scooby. Also didn't Taz canonically beat wonder woman in a comic? I'm pretty sure he should be up there with bugs. Other than that this was a pretty good ranking.

  • @nicholasaugello2534
    @nicholasaugello2534 4 місяці тому +1

    Jason vs Steven is a matchup i think is surprisingly close but i do think Steve could maybe knock Jason out and bubble him somewhere is my guess for how Steven overcomes Jadon Vorehees

  • @poohhardy11
    @poohhardy11 3 місяці тому +1

    if by your own words.... marvin and tom could pick up the sun casually, and taz beat mr mxl....however its spelled
    why are they lower than the DC characters that cant?

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  3 місяці тому +2

      Well my good friend that’s because they can (at their peak performances)

  • @joekennedy4166
    @joekennedy4166 4 місяці тому +2

    My guy you've never seen the matrix. It's kickass check it out for sure. Agent Smith is a program who can warp the artificial reality of the matrix at will as he's part of the system

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  4 місяці тому +1

      LMAO yea I’ve seen bits of the first movie when I was younger
      I’m sure I’ll watch at least the first movie eventually

  • @lukew3370
    @lukew3370 4 місяці тому +1

    Now I want to see a death battle between Rick and Bugs Bunny

    • @truebreakage9003
      @truebreakage9003 4 місяці тому +2

      There's this thing where certain characters know how to deal with toon force to an extent so I think rick would definitely know what to do

  • @skullking6017
    @skullking6017 4 місяці тому

    This was a fun idea for a video. I think it would be cool to make another one in maybe a year or make it a yearly thing (if MVS lasts that long). I had a feeling the top 2 would be Bugs and Superman. I definitely recommend checking out the Matrix. It's a great movie.

  • @TommyTwoGuns24
    @TommyTwoGuns24 4 місяці тому +1

    Lmao the song when Lebron came had me dead

  • @Sammyz_Official
    @Sammyz_Official 4 місяці тому +2

    Spolier block

  • @sinnythefennec69
    @sinnythefennec69 4 місяці тому

    Bugs has all of Superman's Abilities minus their weaknesses. Him being number one makes perfect sence.

  • @thecrawler1265
    @thecrawler1265 4 місяці тому

    Also in the Finn part he either has soul manipulation or soul manipulation resistance as he's capable of avoiding his soul getting sucked, has limited telekinesis and limited energy projection and manipulation and later in the show Finn became completely immune to all forms of electricity.

  • @jacobspicer4470
    @jacobspicer4470 4 місяці тому +1

    Interestingly enough I agree with Bugs being on top, I actually don’t think either Superman or Bugs could kill the other.
    Supes can’t be removed from reality because he’s too integral to the formation of the Universe but Bugs has such a control on reality that Superman can’t actually touch him.
    Superman is much much faster than Bugs but I don’t think that’s really gonna matter here.

  • @SSBFreak85
    @SSBFreak85 4 місяці тому +1

    Another reason Lebron is so low: In reality, just breathing in his direction would cause him to drop to the floor and flail about in an attempt to get a foul call in his favour. =P

  • @Sonic_Legacy91
    @Sonic_Legacy91 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm sorry but this claim here is false only because of toon force. Comics can literally not get crazier than cartoons or the Loony Toons in general. 17:03

    • @KindaSubpar
      @KindaSubpar  5 місяців тому

      “Crazier” may not be the right word lmao. But they do get pretty crazy like wdym superman sneezed away a solar system

    • @safe6278
      @safe6278 4 місяці тому

      ​@@KindaSubparI mean apart from breaking the 4th wall "toon force" Characters don't really have any feats that exceed universe level, meanwhile Superman is out here destroying an entire multiverse with a single punch

    • @safe6278
      @safe6278 4 місяці тому

      Yeah it's kinda crazy how people exaggerate cartoon characters like buggs bunny when most of them don't even have any feats above universe level

  • @dragonsblood23
    @dragonsblood23 4 місяці тому

    Samurai Jack and Beetlejuice were announced today
    Jack i feel has some distance but Beetlejuice I feel could be #2 with more lethal toonforce and being undead. While no idea if increased power or weakness in the sequel yet, the first movie, his main defeat was by surprise, eaten by a giant sandworm crashing in the roof. Bugs i feel is the only one who has enougu chaos but also wit to outsmart him

  • @EpicGamerSkull
    @EpicGamerSkull 4 місяці тому +1

    Your lucky that’s not future steven

  • @kermitgotthesickkicks4265
    @kermitgotthesickkicks4265 5 місяців тому +2

    Number 1 gotta be between bugs and superman no doubt.

  • @elitecombine5373
    @elitecombine5373 4 місяці тому

    I think you are right about Rick where could be the ones above him. It is also hard to say since his character is literally about pulling things out of his ass. His tech is basically magic at times where he can solve problems cause he conveniently create something to do so out of scraps.