I appreciate how accurate and objective these videos are. If a personal experience (whether first or second hand) doesn't seem to quite match up with what you heard in the video, please keep in mind that DID is a very complicated disorder, and varies largely from person to person. The human brain is complicated. There are many contributing factors that can add to the development of this disorder. While some things remain largely the same (that being the general "fragmented" personality), everything else can be different. Imagine a snowflake- they are distinctly the same and can be recognized as such, however they are all unique, and can greatly differ in their patterns. So just because something is true in your case, doesn't mean it will be is someone else's.
My first diagnosis in 2008 was BPD. The following year that was corrected to PTSD. Then I got depression, anxiety, EDNOS, insomnia, and then ptsd, dissociative subtype. But still, I was lost and a mess. In 2018 I got my DID diagnosis, and that's what finally made all the pieces make sense. It's ruined my life though. I can't keep a steady job, I have a dozen meds to manage to various symptoms. It's not fun. It's 12 kinds of ptsd all running simultaneously in my mind. It's incredibly unfair. I was a child; but I'm paying for my father's atrocious crimes for the rest of my life. I have encountered people who say they "wish they had it" because it "sounds fun." I want to vomit when I hear that. There is nothing fun about being shattered into pieces. I'm not 12 people in one body. I am less than one person. None of my parts are whole, complete personalities. There is nothing fun about being broken.
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
yes everyone wants to be like me or finds me cool. I hate every compliment I get. Also nobody really gets to know me cause I always escape even with my "closest" friends. I feel you deeply! you are not alone!
I have this condition. Mine alters are distinct, different ages and genders. They have names, food and clothing style preferences. They show me impressions of what they look like. Each one protects me. Some of them hold onto memories from my childhood that I can't cope with. My childhood was horrifying. I think that in my case, this comes from trauma.
same for me. unlike some people with DID I tend to call the others my "people" instead of "parts." It just sounds weird to me to say part when I can see what they look like in my head.
I know your comment is three years ago. But yeah. The only origin of DID is trauma. I’ve been dx for a while now and I’ve learned so much about my headmates and have healed from a fuckload of trauma.
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
@@ethan_75 I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
The way that I've learned about it from DID system youtube channels is that DID is essentially the most extreme form of PTSD due to repeated and severe childhood trauma. As children, we all have a fragmented sense of self and identity that integrates into one flushed out identity around the ages of 7-10. But, when a child is traumatized severely, this process is interrupted and the personality stays fragmented. Think of it like a bowl that has shattered. Each piece is a part of the original bowl, and no one piece is more real than the others. These different identities are alternate states of consciousness (aka, "alters"), with amnesiac and dissociative walls separating them. Some are fully fleshed out people, and some are more vague. Some alters are helpful protectors of the body, and some are persecutors. Each alter has their own memories and communication between alters can vary. The alter that identifies with the body (i.e., sees the body as themself) is the "host". Over time and with therapy and healthy inner-system communication, alters can begin working together and communicating more freely and easily (a process called "integration") and alters can even come together to form a new alter, blending their memories and personalities and creating a new, bigger piece of the over all bowl (a process called "fusion"). Some would say that the fusing of all the alters into one is the ultimate step of healing, but I think that any state of a system is valid and perfectly okay as long as the system is trying to work together and be healthy. Because, at the end of the day, this disorder exists to keep the person functioning. It protects the host from knowing what happened to them as a child, because the knowledge of the abuse would be too devastating. These people are not violent monsters - they are abuse survivors, more likely to be made victims by future abuse or to suffer from depression and self-harm than to harm anybody else. DID systems deserve acceptance, compassion, and understanding. Also, DID is not as rare as it is made out to be - it's actually as common as red hair.
OHOHOH ACTUALLY okay so there's another theory of how DID happens, basically when people are very young we're more made of different ego states and over time around the age of like 7-10 they come together to form one identity. But for people like myself with DID, it's possible that the trauma we experience interrupts the process of forming that one identity (not sure how it takes into account like new splits and polyfragmented systems tho. maybe the more true theory would be a combination of both of these or something else entirely. idk tho i'm not a psychologist we just have a vague interest in psychology) also on top of that i think there's also been things that show DID is closer to 5% of the population, especially when taking undiagnosed systems into account cos like getting a diagnosis is expensive and can take quite the long time
Even if you take away the fact that alters can protect each other from harm as a reason for wanting to work towards a functioning multiplicity instead of integrating, you should also take into account that for many systems, it really does feel like multiple distinct people. Imagine the whole world telling you you just have to fuse to become one person with your roommates?! What if you just want to stay like yourself. I'd probably rather just learn how to live with my headmates, although I'm not sure yet.
@@yordvandamme we do feel like separate people. It would be weird to fuse. Also we’re kind of like family at this point rather than roommates. It would be really sad to fuse because alters as they were wouldn’t be there anymore. On the other hand it is extremely difficult to live with the amnesia etc. also certain alters can get us into dangerous situations for example I had a young alter come out in public and get into a car with a random guy. Luckily we were fine but still that’s scary and could have gone horribly wrong. The other issue is people don’t see us as separate. They see us as the host and the extra people. Alters that aren’t the host can’t be themselves most of the time because it’s not something that’s accepted or understood in society. They’re stuck having to pretend to be someone they aren’t. Imagine every day going into work and having to pretend you’re a completely different person. Having to recite likes and dislikes and life events of someone else. It just makes us feel like we don’t matter or count as real people. Which I guess we don’t legally. But it still hurts. (This is some of my personal experience) (sorry if this is a bit muddled, there are a few of us around giving input and it’s giving me a headache)
Idk much about did but what u said about childhood trauma sounds acurute cuz of ficional carakters like kevin from split got his split personalityes from childhood trauma and a carakter named crazy jane from a show calld doom patroll also got it fron childhood trauma
From what I learned about a conference specializing in helping those with DID, it's actually underreported due to the fact that it takes OVER 5 years on average to get a correct diagnosis. Not only that, but even at the National American Psychological Association, there was not a single panel on it. In fact from the multiple people I have talked to with DID, it's not uncommon to take YEARS before a correct diagnosis is made. Over the course of 15 years I actually met TWO people with DID by pure happenstance that I got to know from the Internet that lived within 25 miles of me. I mean I've seen a friend of mine Switch into an Alternate Personality before in front of people we've known for years, with those friends NOT recognizing that anything is different. So it's not unlikely that a Psychiatrist or Therapist might not understand what is going on. Even more so when some of the symptoms could be misdiagnosed as Schizophrenia. In fact I know one therapist who a friend of mine was seeing that wouldn't know an Alternate Personality if it bit him in the ass, he was so incompetent. If you think that's crazy, ask your local Therapist and Psychiatrist what they know about DID, and you'll often time see that they know very little. From those people I have read about and known, PTSD is INCREDIBLY common. Mostly due to the fact that typically people have DID when there's a series of traumatic events at childhood that are horrible enough, without enough time to recover. Such as cases involving incest that happen at childhood that go on for years. In terms of having Personalities that are different Ages & Gender, that is 100% correct. Along with the fact that a lot of people with DID just are not these violent dangerous criminals that the Media tends to portray. I HATE how in the US that 90%+ of TVs and Movies produced in the last 2 decades are either "Dangerous Criminals" or "Totally Faking". Which I would say helps to feed into underreporting.
Thank you for calling out how movies (cough cough split) demonize us. It's refreshing to know we're not alone in our correct views on how disgusting movies like that put us, real people with DID, into danger.
As someone with DID (after over a decade of therapy and very hard work on myself, I am finally mostly co-conscious), I’ve gone into denial several times (more like doubting myself and/or forgetting/convincing myself I’ve “made it up” or just imagining it…. Which, of course, I am NOT. I wouldn’t want to have this. No one would if they knew what causes it and what it is like to live with!). My point being, I’m not surprised she may have doubted herself at some point. I’ve done the same. It isn’t uncommon to do so. Abuse survivors can struggle with self-gaslighting as well. Who knows for sure what the case was with Shirley, but it has been seen in cultures all over the world (in some cultures, trauma is believed to cause a part of the soul to leave the body, which is an explanation for DID/trauma-related dissociative disorders in some cultures). It definitely exists. And it is really hard to live with.
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
Thank you so much for making this video. My ex-spouse and brother both have DID and it's so important for people to understand it's not like the movies. Seeing representations like that really can terrify people with the condition into being afraid of themselves or what other people will think/say if they admit to having it.
OK. So, from my understanding, as a person with DID, it is an extreme form of PTSD. As a child I had to protect myself from the trauma and abuse. It was a way of escaping and feeling safe.
@@FirstnameLastname-cx6go this is a better way to describe it than a "more/most severe" form of PTSD. it has to do with how the brain processes what's happening and also age plays a HUGE factor. ptsd isn't "less severe" and can in fact be more debilitating than some covert cases of DID
@@superzooperhaze6597 I most closely resemble a cptsd system, with dissociation, making it DD-like. The dissociation was caused by echoism at age 5. Stress at such an age increases epinephrine, causing salience to trauma pathways, causing ptsd, and turning mild ocd tendancies into a slight tendency toward ocpd (carves up your superego, causing false/incomplete sense of self), causing feedback loops of feedback loops of cognitive dissonance caused by broken internal models. Add 35 years to this, and it creates me. This explains all of my symptoms.
I’m so excited you did an episode on this :D the disorder is often surrounded in stigma and I’m glad there is better information getting spread by other science and psychology UA-cam channels. SCIENCE!
Kaalyn - OPG well, I can understand where you’re coming from. Unfortunately, the only other video I can think of covering this with a similar channel type is crash course psychology, and they solely talk about the stigma and nothing else about it, hardly describing anything about the disorder. Frankly, I’m glad they’re actually covering the topic of dissociative disorders at all
What part of this is science? It's a case study of one person, and she was faking it. Celebrating the failure to diagnose her malingering is kind of the polar opposite of science.
I assume she's claiming to have DID. Though the disorder so rare and so romanticized that I dare say that 9/10 people who claim to have it actually just kind of wish they did.
And also the diagnosis is common is the sort of shockumentaries that mostly just want to cover a controversial topic, rather than do it in a truthful manner. I really hope that you have good people to help you, and that you can get better. I was really happy when I heared that there are good treatments for it today.
I worked in home care for a while, and after helping one person for over a year, she told me she had DID and over a dozen personalities, both genders. She told me she didn't remember when she had a switch, but one of her other personalities told her what happened. They were all aware of each other. Her main personality was also not her original one. She had also been through a traumatic event when she was a child. And she had been able to integrate one of her personalities back into her main one. When she did, she was instantly cured of her arachnidphobia.
With DID there is no "original alter" as it forms before there is an integrated sense of self due to chronic trauma before the ages 6-9. One single traumatic event can not cause DID. www.bu.edu/writingprogram/journal/past-issues/issue-3/manton/ "Disorganized Attachment and the Orbitofrontal Cortex as the Basis for the Development of Dissociative Identity Disorder"
ua-cam.com/video/ZVgGWhPx9bE/v-deo.html this is what i could find. wikipedi hasn't even got a article about it. would love a video about it because it looks really fascinating. edit, also this: ua-cam.com/video/Kj5XR32zs7E/v-deo.html and i'm afraid i'm getting it too. it's just. life is so frikinn painful, dreaming away seems like such a good cure.
It's kind of an addiction to day dreaming. People create world's in their heads and spend a lot of time visiting them to the point where it can interfere with life
I have multiple personalities, nine in all. I know for a fact they are real. The worst mine do to me is cause me to have amnesia. Not just when they take me over, but very large parts of my life. When I was young they were very active. As I get older they seem to take me over much less and are not as talkative. My head is very mixed up. bi-polar, schizo and more. I never did drugs and PTSD is likely. I have known two others who also had MPD or DID. They were very clearly DID to me. When I was in elementary school each personality was described as a very different person. And the two I knew who had DID were the same to me. The only treatment I had was just learning about my self. The psychologist was really knowledgeable.
When I was still able to attend college I was going for my psych degree & loved my abnormal psych class. We did a unit on the case study of the lady that inspired The 3 Faces of Eve movie. She had such a distinction between alters that one was visibly allergic to strawberries while the rest could eat them with no symptoms. The mind is a wondrous tool & has exceptional ways of protecting itself sometimes!
We have did (diagnosed eventually) and a psych once said they wouldn't diagnose us, not bc we didn't meet the diagnostic criteria but because she didn't think DID was real
How would you bring up having DID or OSDD? I've spoken about dissociation before, and no one seems to care. Idk what to do :( I have rlly bad anxiety abt it too
Hollywood movies portraying complicated and nuanced real issues as oversimplified caricatures that only serve their dramatic narratives? Well, I never. Great article though!
I'm happy that you have made a video on the topic of DID! It's a disorder that is still sadly misunderstood and stigmatized a lot of the times. I have been studying DID quite intensely, and I feel like a few things are misrepresented in this video. Firstly, DID is in fact not a rare disorder. Approximately 1,5% of the population have DID, which is about the same as schizophrenia which is not considered a rare disorder at all. The amount of data and studies on DID has grown exponentially in the last couple of years and scientists almost universally agree that DID is caused by extreme repeated trauma in early childhood together with disorganized attachment and neglect. Looking at this, it is easy to see why the outwardly presented symptoms are similar to PTSD and BPD. DID is what most psychologist call a 'meta disorder'. So a patient could have DID as well as PTSD and/or have a personality state that has BPD. That doesn't mean that they are or should be the same. All personality states (or alters) a person has are parts of the whole the person was supposed to be but due to the immense trauma they faced as children, the mind dissociated to keep all the pieces of memory of the trauma seperate so the mind could survive. (Source: www.isst-d.org/downloads/GUIDELINES_REVISED2011.pdf (among others)) If someone is still reading and is interested in learning more about this disorder from the amazing people who strive despite having it, the wonderful channel MultiplicityAndMe is a very good place to start! Thank you for reading!
It's basically an overreaction of the amygdala. Your amygdala is responsible for starting a fight-or-flight fear response, yes, but it's also responsible for stopping that fear response when it isn't necessary anymore. And when it isn't very good at stopping that response, it can lead to a kind of "always-on" stress response---or at least, on more powerfully and for longer than it should be, and at lower levels of stimulation. A neurotypical person might drop an issue after a few minutes, but an anxious person might worry about it for hours or even days. All y'all anxious people out there---it isn't your fault or anything, your amygdala just sucks at its job. *shakes fist* darn you, amygdala! You had one job! (Well, two jobs.)
Thank you for making an educational video on DID. We hope that our psychiatrist can help our suicidal and little alters find peace. You making this video means a lot and it helped our mom understand better since she can review it again when she forgets 💜
While it's true that most people with DID aren't actually particularly violent or dangerous, it's not as if there's no merit to the idea of it. The disorder most often comes as a way for one's mind to protect them from trauma by creating another personality that can better handle the trauma. It's not uncommon for the alters to be far more resilient and confident than the base, or at least, to excel in avoiding or defeating whatever trauma brought them into being. So, for instance, if someone is being abused by their parents and creates a second personality, this personality will either be able to handle the emotional abuse or will have the mindset to fight back against it. This CAN lead to a personality who is potentially violent or just a prick, and in the case of the former, odds are this personality will be very good at being violent since that's what they were made for.
I have DID due to trauma. I have three ones. When I feel good, the three become one, but I still have a hard time remembering feelings and experieneces from other ones. I have hard time getting into relationships and finding friends because different ones want different things and can decide to cut off people for the other ones
I really would appreciate someone focusing on the people like myself with DID. The majority of people with DID do not have symptoms like this and so many people dont even try to understand my disorder bc they say I dont have it bc I dont act like this. Most people with alters dont have different names they are just different emotional states not personalities hence why they changed the name of the disorder. I have atleast ten alters and they are ALL named Ashley bc this disorder is designed to be not be noticable unless you are around the person with it for a considerable amount of time or you are unlucky enough to be around when they get triggered but most of us have a part that takes control when we go out in public so we look like normal healthy people. I only switch when I am triggered and those moments are misunderstood bc there's no information out there on it 😔There is so much misinformation out there and it's so frustrating. Cases like this (where alters have names) are extremely rare in the DID community and I feel like everyone wants to focus on them while forgetting about the rest of us. Someone with influence needs to show what the majority of people with DID are actually like I am so the public can stop expecting me to transform into someone with another name it's so frustrating I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder for 10 years as many people with DID are and I got lucky enough to finally find a therapist that could tell what was really going on so I could get the right treatment bc treatment for bipolar disorder doesnt help people with DID my therapist specialized in trauma work and works with people with DID and when I asked her about all the info saying alters have different names her response was 'I'm not going to say that their experience isnt real bc that's not my job but I can tell you in the 30 years I've done this work I havent met 1 client with DID who's alters have different names.' The disorder is designed to not be recognized that's why when you go into public your put together part is in control so that people can't detect the disorder and you seem normal and healthy. To tell the states apart we give them tag names but they dont use the tag names themselves for example some of mine are: the suicidal one, the homicidal one, the runner, frozen, tears, queen bee, the depressed one, my protector etc etc but most people have no idea I have this disorder bc when I go into public either queen bee takes control or my recovery oriented self takes control creating an image of a healthy person until a rare situation occurs the triggers me and i switch. It's also frustrating bc I've met several people who most definitely have the same disorder I do and they dont believe me when I try to explain it to them bc there's so much misinformation out there so so many ppl are suffering with the wrong diagnosis bc of this
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤ You said everything really well x
@@Ohkeh640 I know it's scary but if you're having those thoughts I suggest seeking some type of therapy at the very least to try to help you those are very difficult moments to have to experience. I've been there and now as someone who found a way to heal and move forward I now understand just how peaceful life can be when we recover. You can overcome this, i believe in you 💪
I think it was a coping mechanism. But when the doctor wrote the book on her, she must have realized that he took her coping mechanism at face value, because he wasn’t inside her head. That is to say, making it up *is* the disorder, and is done for legitimate reasons - to cope. I think it’s likely that her actual personality didn’t entirely disappear, which is what makes her say it was a lie, but the fact still remained that she needed to suppress her identity and invent a new one, whether it was consciously or unconsciously doesn’t really matter. ((I wrote this as an answer to someone, but figured it’d make a good comment as well ))
Danielle Spargo I just wanted to say that your comment was very well thought-out and reading it gave me something to think about regarding the subject at hand. Have a nice day!
Thank you for the neurological explanation. I know issues with the glutamate system, (NMDA in particular) also have a strong connection with disassociation. Looking back at my post, I don't think I expressed myself exactly in the way I wanted to. Whatever the neurological basis behind it, it's certain to happen in degrees, that is to say, hippocampal volume and whatnot are not just a set of two values, but rather a range of volumes. So while an extreme neurological aberration might present as a person with fractured personalities that resemble those from movies (ie the person has completely different personalities with no connection to one another, and no combined will); a more moderate case might look like Sybil, who says she made it up. It certainly takes some type of propensity towards that behavior to make something like that up in the first place. I know I couldn't do it if I tried.
I'm a little confused by your comment. You say that "making it up is the disorder". So are you suggesting that the disorder isn't real or in the meta sense where if you think you have the disorder, then you have it? Also "her actual personality didn't entirely disappear". I've never heard of a DID case where the original 'personality' disappeared, only fragmented. And the only cases I know of where any 'personality disappears' is when identities integrate. I believe the words for people who lie to themselves are self-deception, and the word for people who lie to others is liars.
I have an argument against this idea. Really what you suggest is a question of labels. The problem is that in the case of people like Sybil with the current DID definition, they are faking DID. They do not actually have amnesia or multiple identities other than themselves, which is a prerequisite of DID so to speak. Also, I've heard of a method to diagnosis DID based on MRI Scans. It has the patient MRI scanned while switching identities. Where this really hurts the most is that there are two huge stigmas of DID which are the belief that DID can be faked and that DID is not actual disorder. In my opinion, adding people who simply believe themselves to have the condition to be medically diagnosed with DID simply causes more bad than good for therapists and DID patients. I think that there is a different disorder that works better for them.
+Duy Nguyen It's weird to me that you don't understand her point and then disagree with it, while on another person's comment you posted a link to an article that describes this exact thing and use it as a denial of that person's claim.
This is a really important, often misunderstood topic for many and you do a fantastic job at describing it and the controversy. I think you did a great service here with this video.
Missing time or suddenly finding yourself in a place with no idea how you got there are two of the most frightening experiences a friend with DID told me about.
Yeay! Thanks for this video! I don't personally have DID, I have OSDD-1B, which lacks the amnesia component (it's... Fun at times). But I have a lot of friends who have DID, and struggle to find therapists who don't completely invalidate their alters :/
I was curious to see if you guys did a video about this, and I feel like you did a pretty decent job with it. Thanks for doing a good job, and not portraying it negatively.
I came here because I just wanted to learn more about all kinds of dissociation. Lately, I have been experiencing amnesia and I have been confusing reality. I often cant remember if I had a conversation or not. Today my mom showed me a picture of her friend showing her red dress in the morning and I even said something about how the dress was pretty. Today afternoon she told me that she told her I said it was pretty but I was shocked because I didnt remember. At all. I didnt even like those kinda dresses. She showed me the picture and I didnt remember seeing it. This has been happening often lately and I've been having out of body experiences.
Personally, from seeing issues with other psychiatric disorders, I think DID may be self-enclosing as a means of protecting itself. Many disorders may push the people with them to deny they have anything wrong at all, and it’s possible DID is better at this. It’s also possible she was afraid or unhappy about the attention to her past and history, even with the name changes, and denied it for that reason.
I was diagnosed the ID. And it stems from PTSD and abuse at least to me. I really appreciated this video because he did a better job of explaining what it really is versus what it’s really Not thank you
Whether it's used as a coping mechanism or it's a genuine neurological disorder, being that deep in fragmentation is something worth treating and taking seriously. I constructed a second alter for myself in my late childhood and it served me very well in terms of coping with a traumatic household/coping with the stress of trans related dysphoria. It was useful when I needed it, but when it started to hinder my life, it took a compassionate therapist who took me seriously in order to bring the fragmented pieces of myself together again. Whatever the cause, it's important to take this stuff at face value. Even if someone is just doing it for attention, that in and of itself is still worth getting help over.
Dissociative identity disorder is my favourite topic of study / discussion .... In my society where I live , this DID is very rarely seen . Although I am not a psychology student but the field psychology is really amazing .
I've been through it. It was triggered by rejection trauma in BPD. I was in a fragmented identity state for about 2 months. It started as a catatonic episode, then the hallucinations started, then it was the second-guessing, then it felt like there were three of me in the one place. I didn't gain my sense of self back for ages. Thankfully, all is well and good, I found a good psychiatrist after that and my treatment has been going well for nearly 2 years :)
DID develops due to chronic trauma before the ages 6-9 (before the orbitofrontal cortex experienced a period of rapid growth) and is shown to have neurobiological differences due to how chronic trauma can impact brain development in early childhood. So no, you have not had DID, probably derealization/depersonalization as those can be caused later in life mixed with psychosis which can happen in BPD.
I think one path to DID (and part of its rarity) is undiagnosed/unacknowledged ADHD with RSD combined with a PTSD inducing emotionally neglectful/abusive home life in childhood. That path is a perfect storm of memory problems, frequent dysphoric episodes, and unaddressed trauma paired with lack of healthy coping mechanisms. Obviously there can be other paths with different sources of stresses and triggers for fracturing as coping mechanism.
I was diagnosed with bpd a couple months ago and just earlier today I realized that I might have alternate personalities. I was listening to a youtuber explain her experiences with did and I drew a lot of parallels with myself and her. This is going to take A LOT of self reflection and I'll talk to my therapist when I can, but I thank you for pointing out the similarities between bpd and did. There's one specific alternate personality that I can think of, but I think I might have others. I just want clarification and closure with myself, I have the feeling that I'm onto something here.
I am diagnosed with DID and ptsd, and I do not fit the criteria of BPD (got tested for it multiple times only fit 3 out of 5 required of which there are 9 in total) there aren't many similarities imo. It can overlap for some, but even having ptsd plus something else can cause a BPD misdiagnosis (or just having scars from self harm). And as far as I understand the "identity confusion" in BPD can lead to mirroring someone else and the personality fluctuating etc. But that's not the same as a dissociated identity in DID. If you know you have BPD and realized you might have DID due to listening to someone who has it, I'd be very careful with that.
Personally, I liked how objective they remained in this. I think a lot of times people forget that science is always changing and gathering new evidence. Who knows, in the next few years we could learn so much more about DID! I think they gave a good overview of the topic, and I think that's what's important. Dispell the common myths and let the public know about it. Thank you SciShow! This was a good video and I'm glad that this was handled in such a scientific and explanatory way!!
thank you. i just watched the ep of crash course that discussed it last night and was hoping scishow psych would address it soon, since the rundown in crash course was abhorrent. from someone with a very close friend with the disorder, this is much better. still not perfect, but much better.
I kind of wish there was a mention that DID and depersonalizing are different because it took me some time to separate the two. It can be thought that both can stem from the same things (ie. trauma) but they don't work the same. Dissociation deals with fragments of a person's personality, memories, etc. While depersonalizing, atleast for myself, is being outside of one's body. You have your body and you know it's yours but you have taken a step away from it in order to deal with what is happening. Both can be difficult to deal with and deserve attention.
I did a paper on Sybil in abnormal psych class and came to the same conclusion that she either made it all up with the therapist coaxing expected behaviors out of her, or that only a few of the personalities namely the French girl that was sent to live with her were separate personalities
I have a Bipolar Disorder along with dissocitive fugue and dissociative identity disorder. This was a very good video on what it is all about. I have had experiences where I have had conversations, said and done other things and shortly after I have no knowledge of what took place. If I don''t have someone close who has witnessed my actions and bring it up later, I may never know that I did these dissociated things. If someone close brings up something that I did, and I have no knowledge of having done it, then I have to accept that it happened while I was dissociated. This is not easy to accept that you can do things without a conscious memory of what you did. It can be quite unsettling and even dangerous at times.
lol, I met with some mental health professionals today to discuss my assessment and they basically clarified to me that if I was not threatening physical harm against myself or others through my behaviour then there was no point in labelling me and as for what I wanted out of treatment, they said that none of us know how to get the best out of our life, and they asked if I'm interested in health so much, why don't I get a job along the lines of research etc... which I agreed with but then I come away and now I just want a girlfriend again and to play the piano... she asked me about my history and where I went with music and I said that I went from music to studying maths to IT to care work... and that I don't really know my reasons but it always seems rational at the time, and she asked me 'does your personality change a lot' and come to think of it, this is why I struggle to have friends because no one knows how to treat me, because it's like I'm not the same person... and I experience a real conflict with knowing what I want and who I am and so I don't bother trying to pursue anything so that people don't expect anything, but then I suppose I should just roll with it and explain myself to others better.
If you are a risk to yourself or others, labels is the least of your worries, they'd put you in the closed section of a psych ward. Diagnoses are important for: 1. meds and so your health professionals can easily know what it is you are struggling with 2. insurance coverage 3. if it is debilitating which a lot of mental illnesses can be, it helps to get disability. But your "personality changing" is not the same as having DID.
I've known someone with DID and I've seen them when different alters were in control. The vibe I got was very similar to a typical case of mistaken identity on my part the first time around and they really did act like a different person. They also had a history of repressed trauma and an unpleasant past. :3
I always think of myself as being two. There's me and there's another me. She is like the bucket where I dump all my negative experience in a day and she keeps me stress free the entire time so I can function well in the society. There will be a time when people say something nasty to me but being a nice person I am I always treat people well despite their actions. So, when that happens, long after the nasty people had gone off somewhere else, I will feel this foreign anger inside. I said foreign because I think it isn't entirely mine. That's when I Know it's hers. That will be my cue for a bathroom break so that I can have a moment to have a little talk to myself. The anger will be gone later... I have to do that, or I have no idea what she will do to that nasty person. She is in some occasion pretty violent. She had never caused any violence before but I'm not taking any chance. She is quite violent in my head😂. Sometimes, I heard voices in my head, encouraging words, advices, ideas, suggestions that I never thought I could come out with. She's very intelligent and protective. She's like an invisible body guard to me. I make time to do things she likes sometimes as thanks. Haha... And yes, I sometimes talk to myself, aloud. So, do I have DID? Or is it just another strange stress coping mechanism?
I know someone who has a second personality, but they have no memory loss and are not distressed by their condition. Additionally, they are fully aware of what is reality and what comes from their second personality. They do have overly controling parents but definitely weren't subject to abuse as a child. It is unclear whether they have DID, but I am tempted to say no. There is a community of people who have tulpas, which is what I just described.
OSDD-1b is a form of DID that leaves the person with little to no amnesia. I have a DID diagnosis and I am not distressed by my condition either- which is because it is a coping mechanism. It took a while for me to come to terms with it and to develop better in-system communication, but once I did, it really wasn't so bad anymore. Most of my alters are incredibly kind people who do so much to protect us as a whole. And considering the in-system communication is pretty good it's easier to become aware of who is who. Also, trauma doesn't necessarily happen because of traditional abuse, not to mention you aren't in their brain. You don't know what they are experiencing. The brain is incredibly complicated and a DID diagnosis usually takes ages to get.
Dissociative Identity Disorder is DEFINITELY a real condition and is DEFINITELY a trauma thing. This is coming from someone with PTSD and DDNOS. I think DDNOS is worth mentioning, and it stands for Disassociative Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. This is the diagnosis you get when you have dissociative/DID symptoms but don't meet the full criteria for DID. Like, I haven't had amensia or lost significant chunks of memory for a long long time. The best treatment for DID involves therapy for the trauma, and therapy and skills for working more cooperatively with all parts of yourself. It's really empowering and I've found it to be a largely positive experience. Now if we could replace Split and Sybil with better media representation, that'd be nice.
The issue with many of the accounts represent what it’s like living with DID make it look like living in a reality TV show, like having best friends, boyfriends and pets as alter. This is a very serious, potentially lethal, trauma response that nearly killed me. I was diagnosed in 2003 and have specialized in working with people having these experiences for many years. The level of dissociation is key to identifying it (as indicated by diagnosis). I’m interested in reading the research and information that substantiates that it’s as “common as red hair.” Are people on social media saying this, because this has not been my experience while working with hundreds and hundreds of people with extreme trauma histories.
I’m sad to say I have complex ptsd and DID. It’s very difficult to say the least and Hollywood doesn’t help at all I’ve heard it said that DID is the worst state of CPTSD. And in most cases, DID is highly linked to childhood trauma. So….yeah. It should never be seen as a stand-alone disorder
By the way, skills that one personality fragment (or alter) obtains are shared among all the personality fragments in the mind; if one of them learns a language, all the others will also know the language most often without a memory of having learned it.
Nah, i think it was a coping mechanism. But when the doctor wrote the book on her, she must have realized that he took her coping mechanism at face value, because he wasn’t inside her head. That is to say, making it up *is* the disorder, and is done for legitimate reasons - to cope. I think it’s likely that her actual personality didn’t entirely disappear, which is what makes her say it was a lie, but the fact still remained that she needed to suppress her identity and invent a new one, whether it was consciously or unconsciously doesn’t really matter.
maybe there is a different explaination. people with DID, especially the hosts, struggle with denial very badly. few DID patients who never sat at their therapists office and blurted out "I think we don't have DID. We must be making it up".
Also, considering her admission came years later via a single letter, it's just as possible it was sent by a different personality. Sometimes it's like a big game of cat and mouse in DID heads
I'm the host of a system (the main personality of someone with DID) and I'm so glad that they did a well informed episode on this!!! there is so much stigma around it and Split is Not a good representation of the disorder -T
Hey can you talk about Satanic Panic and mental health malpractice? It relates to DID/MPD and makes me really cautious and curious regarding legitimate diagnoses.
@SciShow Psych could you please resurch this again and update this video? The UA-cam channels of theEntropySystem, DissociaDID, multiplicityandme and TeamPinata and AcrylicandAether doing a great job of educating about DID and depunking myths.
Hey I need a friend I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
I have been diagnosed with PTSD and DID since 2009. I def don't qualify for BPD. And the diagnosis has not been doubted as much as you make it sound like. neither is the connection to extreme childhood trauma. A fugue state is very different from switching to say a 7 year old part, who is always the same 7 year old with her own share of the memories, memories that are real and not made up to fill a gap. PTSD is also a very different diagnosis, based on trauma, flashbacks, hypervigilance and avoidance, not dissociated personality parts. if anyone is looking for self-help to cope with DID come visit us at www.dis-sos.com
I had a neighbour like that & I used to think that she has Multiple Personality Disorder, until I figure out from reviewing the books I have that she's possibly a Borderline personality. It might seem that the difference is vague, but the reality that MPD don't remember what they do, yet it's a noticeable by people who surround them in their daily life, While BPD do remember, and they shift in personality not in their identity, So BPD will have bursts of temper & destructive behaviour and they turn from extreme to extreme,(e.g. from a very sweet & polite person to aggressive, intimidating & destructive) for usually few minutes, usually there are physical symptoms as well:the facial expressions will change( as if they've been possessed) I remember my neighbour screaming, closing her eyes, kicking on the floor, hitting her head on the wall, after an argument with her husband, when the episode wears off, she looks apologetic & ashamed like a child who's who done something wrong, even the voice changes to a child's voice, It used to scare the hell out of me. They can be delusional and dangerous at times. Early sings are all those strange bursts: like she would look at u and say: hello sweet heart (smiling) & then, she would look away and start to swear and call u with names, and that's why the diagnosis can easily mixed with MPD.
It started to sound like me up until the major symptom was mentioned. As far as I know, I do not have amnesia but I do have memory problems. Of course, my mind never shuts off and my sleeping troubles likely contribute to that so there's that. But seriously, I do feel like I am a fragmented person sometimes... And it's made worse since I have PTSD from an abusive past.
To me it was awful for many years that I didn't get diagnosed with DID or DD it's kinda still unclear what because it's not that specific and just happend couple of changes how they're listed - and mine is unspecific one, mix bag... Anyway.. Years I was always subcribed with depression medications when I complained something - what didn't help one bit. Until one day one doctor gave me DID test - even the nurse said that she had never seen that test before. That finally started the progress of doing something about it. Depression had been just symptom because I got so tired of all the work I had to do to keep my mental state together and still continue normally in society. Also because I tested that it was possible - I started getting other test so things could be ruled out. Despite it being thought as rare.. Maybe it isn't that rare or at least the test for DID is wider enough than most (especially depression) test that they should at least give it more often to rule out or in some things. I didn't have enough money for good enough therapy but cheap one what I got at least teach me how to live with it and avoid stress what makes it often worse.
I think my first bf from when I was in high school may have had this. I remember him telling me about various friends he had who I’ve never met. I still remember their names too. When he broke up with me via letter, he wrote it saying his name was Steven. I remember showing the letter to his brother the next day and he confirmed it was his bro.
I don't really understand why sources call "about 1%" rare? How is that rare, that would mean that almost everyone knows at least one person with DID. I think it's not a good idea to call that rare, it causes people to question themselves or others.
I think we all agree that our memories make us who we are. Everything we think, feel, believe, and do is based on the sum of our experiences. So if, at different times, we lose access to some of those memories, but not others... wouldn't that seem to ourselves and others like we're a different person? For instance, let's say my favorite color is blue because, subconsciously, I remember being in awe of a clear blue sky once when I was a child. Now, decades later, that memory is lost (or inaccessible). Would I still love blue? Maybe not. I might look into my closet and be like, "Ew, what's with all these blue clothes?" Obviously color preference is a minor example, but you can see the idea, right? So I'm wondering if DID/fugue states are not a causal disorder, but merely a symptom of shifting, temporary memory loss?
It is a disorder caused by chronic trauma before the ages 6-9 that disrupts the development of an integrated sense of self as neurological research shows (which this video somehow conveniently seemed to ignore): www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25670646 “ Shared abnormal brain structures in DID-PTSD and PTSD-only, small hippocampal volume in DID-PTSD, more severe lifetime traumatizing events in DID-PTSD compared with PTSD-only, and negative correlations between lifetime traumatizing events and hippocampal volume suggest a trauma-related etiology for DID “ www.researchgate.net/publication/5810713_Volume_of_discrete_brain_structures_in_complex_dissociative_disorders_Preliminary_findings journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0098795 "The findings are consistent with TSDP and inconsistent with the idea that DID is caused by suggestion, fantasy proneness, and role-playing." www.empty-memories.nl/science/Vermettenetal.pdf www.researchgate.net/publication/221695375_Evaluation_of_the_Evidence_for_the_Trauma_and_Fantasy_Models_of_Dissociation “ there is strong empirical support for the hypothesis that trauma causes dissociation, and that dissociation remains related to trauma history when fantasy proneness is controlled. We find little support for the hypothesis that the dissociation-trauma relationship is due to fantasy proneness or confabulated memories of trauma.” www.researchgate.net/publication/261217759_Is_the_Dissociative_Adult_Suggestible_A_Test_of_the_Trauma_and_Fantasy_Models_of_Dissociation “The results consistently support the Trauma Model of dissociation and fail to support the Fantasy Model of dissociation.” www.neuroimaging-did.com/Papers/Chalavi_Reinders_PSYN-D-14-00159R1_select.pdf "DID-specific abnormalities involved the inferior parietal cortex, putamen and pallidum, which were associated with dissociative and depersonalization/derealization symptoms and can be considered neurobiological markers for DID. Our findings support trauma-related models of DID"journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0039279 "The findings are at odds with the idea that differences among different types of dissociative identity states in DID can be explained by high fantasy proneness, motivated role-enactment, and suggestion. They indicate that DID does not have a sociocultural (e.g., iatrogenic) origin."www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213158213000892 www.bu.edu/writingprogram/journal/past-issues/issue-3/manton/
“Real people are suffering and need help.” That needs much more focus in the world.
Did he just talk about the Fight Club? The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about the Fight Club.
But you just talked about it! Three times!
@@squeaksquawk4255 and you just did it too damnit
You are all banned from the club that shall not be named
😂😂😂
Lol 😂 true
Finally somebody tells me that I'm not evil or bad
Agreed. Feels kinda nice eh? 💗❤ 💖💜🖤
You all are wonderful ;)
ya. gotta love it when those christians literally call you demons
same
@@theaexperiment9365 well that's called ignorance they know nothing so they think it's evil. they're dumb themselves
I appreciate how accurate and objective these videos are. If a personal experience (whether first or second hand) doesn't seem to quite match up with what you heard in the video, please keep in mind that DID is a very complicated disorder, and varies largely from person to person. The human brain is complicated. There are many contributing factors that can add to the development of this disorder. While some things remain largely the same (that being the general "fragmented" personality), everything else can be different. Imagine a snowflake- they are distinctly the same and can be recognized as such, however they are all unique, and can greatly differ in their patterns. So just because something is true in your case, doesn't mean it will be is someone else's.
Rossomak This is not accurate. D. I. D. Is not rare. It’s more accurate to say it is rarely diagnosed.
@@GlowingMpd it can count as rare because not everyone has heard of it.
@@dolliebitz3762 👍
Thank you
Also, try to keep in mind that DID is simply not real.
My first diagnosis in 2008 was BPD. The following year that was corrected to PTSD. Then I got depression, anxiety, EDNOS, insomnia, and then ptsd, dissociative subtype. But still, I was lost and a mess. In 2018 I got my DID diagnosis, and that's what finally made all the pieces make sense. It's ruined my life though. I can't keep a steady job, I have a dozen meds to manage to various symptoms. It's not fun. It's 12 kinds of ptsd all running simultaneously in my mind.
It's incredibly unfair. I was a child; but I'm paying for my father's atrocious crimes for the rest of my life. I have encountered people who say they "wish they had it" because it "sounds fun." I want to vomit when I hear that. There is nothing fun about being shattered into pieces. I'm not 12 people in one body. I am less than one person. None of my parts are whole, complete personalities. There is nothing fun about being broken.
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth
Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
yes everyone wants to be like me or finds me cool. I hate every compliment I get. Also nobody really gets to know me cause I always escape even with my "closest" friends.
I feel you deeply! you are not alone!
@@Ohkeh640use this comment section right here. you can talk!
0:51 What did Shirley do? Surely Shirley did DID.
This is next level.
Omg stop.
Don't listen to LulitaInPita; never stop! :D
"Surely you must be joking."
"I'm not, and stop calling me Shirley."
It is a thelmite.
I have this condition. Mine alters are distinct, different ages and genders. They have names, food and clothing style preferences. They show me impressions of what they look like. Each one protects me. Some of them hold onto memories from my childhood that I can't cope with. My childhood was horrifying. I think that in my case, this comes from trauma.
same for me. unlike some people with DID I tend to call the others my "people" instead of "parts." It just sounds weird to me to say part when I can see what they look like in my head.
I know your comment is three years ago. But yeah. The only origin of DID is trauma. I’ve been dx for a while now and I’ve learned so much about my headmates and have healed from a fuckload of trauma.
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth
Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
@@ethan_75 I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth
Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
am i the only one who found hank's fragmented face SUPER unsettling? o_o
Me too.
Freaked me out. Seems like a bad choice.
The way that I've learned about it from DID system youtube channels is that DID is essentially the most extreme form of PTSD due to repeated and severe childhood trauma. As children, we all have a fragmented sense of self and identity that integrates into one flushed out identity around the ages of 7-10. But, when a child is traumatized severely, this process is interrupted and the personality stays fragmented. Think of it like a bowl that has shattered. Each piece is a part of the original bowl, and no one piece is more real than the others. These different identities are alternate states of consciousness (aka, "alters"), with amnesiac and dissociative walls separating them. Some are fully fleshed out people, and some are more vague. Some alters are helpful protectors of the body, and some are persecutors. Each alter has their own memories and communication between alters can vary. The alter that identifies with the body (i.e., sees the body as themself) is the "host". Over time and with therapy and healthy inner-system communication, alters can begin working together and communicating more freely and easily (a process called "integration") and alters can even come together to form a new alter, blending their memories and personalities and creating a new, bigger piece of the over all bowl (a process called "fusion"). Some would say that the fusing of all the alters into one is the ultimate step of healing, but I think that any state of a system is valid and perfectly okay as long as the system is trying to work together and be healthy. Because, at the end of the day, this disorder exists to keep the person functioning. It protects the host from knowing what happened to them as a child, because the knowledge of the abuse would be too devastating. These people are not violent monsters - they are abuse survivors, more likely to be made victims by future abuse or to suffer from depression and self-harm than to harm anybody else. DID systems deserve acceptance, compassion, and understanding. Also, DID is not as rare as it is made out to be - it's actually as common as red hair.
OHOHOH ACTUALLY okay so there's another theory of how DID happens, basically when people are very young we're more made of different ego states and over time around the age of like 7-10 they come together to form one identity. But for people like myself with DID, it's possible that the trauma we experience interrupts the process of forming that one identity (not sure how it takes into account like new splits and polyfragmented systems tho. maybe the more true theory would be a combination of both of these or something else entirely. idk tho i'm not a psychologist we just have a vague interest in psychology)
also on top of that i think there's also been things that show DID is closer to 5% of the population, especially when taking undiagnosed systems into account cos like getting a diagnosis is expensive and can take quite the long time
Even if you take away the fact that alters can protect each other from harm as a reason for wanting to work towards a functioning multiplicity instead of integrating, you should also take into account that for many systems, it really does feel like multiple distinct people. Imagine the whole world telling you you just have to fuse to become one person with your roommates?! What if you just want to stay like yourself. I'd probably rather just learn how to live with my headmates, although I'm not sure yet.
@@yordvandamme we do feel like separate people. It would be weird to fuse. Also we’re kind of like family at this point rather than roommates. It would be really sad to fuse because alters as they were wouldn’t be there anymore. On the other hand it is extremely difficult to live with the amnesia etc. also certain alters can get us into dangerous situations for example I had a young alter come out in public and get into a car with a random guy. Luckily we were fine but still that’s scary and could have gone horribly wrong. The other issue is people don’t see us as separate. They see us as the host and the extra people. Alters that aren’t the host can’t be themselves most of the time because it’s not something that’s accepted or understood in society. They’re stuck having to pretend to be someone they aren’t. Imagine every day going into work and having to pretend you’re a completely different person. Having to recite likes and dislikes and life events of someone else. It just makes us feel like we don’t matter or count as real people. Which I guess we don’t legally. But it still hurts. (This is some of my personal experience) (sorry if this is a bit muddled, there are a few of us around giving input and it’s giving me a headache)
@@KitKat2233 yeah exactly. That's why it's so important to deconstruct the stigmas around DID...
Idk much about did but what u said about childhood trauma sounds acurute cuz of ficional carakters like kevin from split got his split personalityes from childhood trauma and a carakter named crazy jane from a show calld doom patroll also got it fron childhood trauma
Really sad that OSDD-1B and OSDD-1a often get left out of conversations abt DID, since both of those disorders are very very similar to DID
From what I learned about a conference specializing in helping those with DID, it's actually underreported due to the fact that it takes OVER 5 years on average to get a correct diagnosis. Not only that, but even at the National American Psychological Association, there was not a single panel on it. In fact from the multiple people I have talked to with DID, it's not uncommon to take YEARS before a correct diagnosis is made. Over the course of 15 years I actually met TWO people with DID by pure happenstance that I got to know from the Internet that lived within 25 miles of me.
I mean I've seen a friend of mine Switch into an Alternate Personality before in front of people we've known for years, with those friends NOT recognizing that anything is different. So it's not unlikely that a Psychiatrist or Therapist might not understand what is going on. Even more so when some of the symptoms could be misdiagnosed as Schizophrenia. In fact I know one therapist who a friend of mine was seeing that wouldn't know an Alternate Personality if it bit him in the ass, he was so incompetent. If you think that's crazy, ask your local Therapist and Psychiatrist what they know about DID, and you'll often time see that they know very little.
From those people I have read about and known, PTSD is INCREDIBLY common. Mostly due to the fact that typically people have DID when there's a series of traumatic events at childhood that are horrible enough, without enough time to recover. Such as cases involving incest that happen at childhood that go on for years.
In terms of having Personalities that are different Ages & Gender, that is 100% correct. Along with the fact that a lot of people with DID just are not these violent dangerous criminals that the Media tends to portray. I HATE how in the US that 90%+ of TVs and Movies produced in the last 2 decades are either "Dangerous Criminals" or "Totally Faking". Which I would say helps to feed into underreporting.
I'm convinced you can't have DID without PTSD or C-PTSD...
@@yordvandamme Oh yeah, C-PTSD is SUPER common with DID. Almost to entirely impossible to have DID without it.
Thank you for calling out how movies (cough cough split) demonize us. It's refreshing to know we're not alone in our correct views on how disgusting movies like that put us, real people with DID, into danger.
ikr. its actually fun having them after you manage to control them. im sick of people saying its dangerous....
Weeks have gone by in the dark. It's scary sometimes
As someone with DID (after over a decade of therapy and very hard work on myself, I am finally mostly co-conscious), I’ve gone into denial several times (more like doubting myself and/or forgetting/convincing myself I’ve “made it up” or just imagining it…. Which, of course, I am NOT. I wouldn’t want to have this. No one would if they knew what causes it and what it is like to live with!).
My point being, I’m not surprised she may have doubted herself at some point. I’ve done the same. It isn’t uncommon to do so. Abuse survivors can struggle with self-gaslighting as well.
Who knows for sure what the case was with Shirley, but it has been seen in cultures all over the world (in some cultures, trauma is believed to cause a part of the soul to leave the body, which is an explanation for DID/trauma-related dissociative disorders in some cultures). It definitely exists. And it is really hard to live with.
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth
Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
Mental hospitals should be the last option, for anyone. Too many people get mistreated and wrongfully diagnosed.
Thank you so much for making this video. My ex-spouse and brother both have DID and it's so important for people to understand it's not like the movies. Seeing representations like that really can terrify people with the condition into being afraid of themselves or what other people will think/say if they admit to having it.
Shiz. I just realized that this is where the Sybil system from Psycho-Pass gets its name. Good foreshadowing on the writers' part.
OK. So, from my understanding, as a person with DID, it is an extreme form of PTSD. As a child I had to protect myself from the trauma and abuse. It was a way of escaping and feeling safe.
That's what I have been experiencing. To me it's like DID was the form that PTSD took, when I was still learning to spell my name.
i’m talking abt my dissociative symptoms with my therapist right now and that is also how she explained it to me
@@FirstnameLastname-cx6go this is a better way to describe it than a "more/most severe" form of PTSD. it has to do with how the brain processes what's happening and also age plays a HUGE factor. ptsd isn't "less severe" and can in fact be more debilitating than some covert cases of DID
@@superzooperhaze6597 Yeah. Three years after writing this comment, I now understand the details on all of that. It is fascinating.
@@superzooperhaze6597 I most closely resemble a cptsd system, with dissociation, making it DD-like. The dissociation was caused by echoism at age 5. Stress at such an age increases epinephrine, causing salience to trauma pathways, causing ptsd, and turning mild ocd tendancies into a slight tendency toward ocpd (carves up your superego, causing false/incomplete sense of self), causing feedback loops of feedback loops of cognitive dissonance caused by broken internal models. Add 35 years to this, and it creates me. This explains all of my symptoms.
It never ceases to amaze me that only of Sybils personalities claims that the whole thing was fake , yet that testimony alone becomes official ...
I’m so excited you did an episode on this :D the disorder is often surrounded in stigma and I’m glad there is better information getting spread by other science and psychology UA-cam channels. SCIENCE!
Kaalyn - OPG well, I can understand where you’re coming from. Unfortunately, the only other video I can think of covering this with a similar channel type is crash course psychology, and they solely talk about the stigma and nothing else about it, hardly describing anything about the disorder. Frankly, I’m glad they’re actually covering the topic of dissociative disorders at all
What part of this is science? It's a case study of one person, and she was faking it.
Celebrating the failure to diagnose her malingering is kind of the polar opposite of science.
I saw a video about my disorder and I'm shock, no one bothers to ever speak about it. Thank you.
Paula Mena what's your disorder
I assume she's claiming to have DID. Though the disorder so rare and so romanticized that I dare say that 9/10 people who claim to have it actually just kind of wish they did.
And also the diagnosis is common is the sort of shockumentaries that mostly just want to cover a controversial topic, rather than do it in a truthful manner. I really hope that you have good people to help you, and that you can get better. I was really happy when I heared that there are good treatments for it today.
How do you live with it?
same doe
I worked in home care for a while, and after helping one person for over a year, she told me she had DID and over a dozen personalities, both genders. She told me she didn't remember when she had a switch, but one of her other personalities told her what happened. They were all aware of each other.
Her main personality was also not her original one. She had also been through a traumatic event when she was a child. And she had been able to integrate one of her personalities back into her main one. When she did, she was instantly cured of her arachnidphobia.
At what age did she get sick?
Did you get to meet her other personalities?
With DID there is no "original alter" as it forms before there is an integrated sense of self due to chronic trauma before the ages 6-9. One single traumatic event can not cause DID. www.bu.edu/writingprogram/journal/past-issues/issue-3/manton/
"Disorganized Attachment and the Orbitofrontal Cortex as the Basis for the Development of Dissociative Identity Disorder"
please do an episode on maladaptive daydreaming
carlandthehumancrab what's that
ua-cam.com/video/ZVgGWhPx9bE/v-deo.html
this is what i could find. wikipedi hasn't even got a article about it. would love a video about it because it looks really fascinating.
edit, also this: ua-cam.com/video/Kj5XR32zs7E/v-deo.html
and i'm afraid i'm getting it too. it's just. life is so frikinn painful, dreaming away seems like such a good cure.
It's kind of an addiction to day dreaming. People create world's in their heads and spend a lot of time visiting them to the point where it can interfere with life
YES, PLEASE
Is use to have that but it's mild ish now
This was way better than expected tbh.
Sincerely,
-OSDD friendo
I have multiple personalities, nine in all. I know for a fact they are real. The worst mine do to me is cause me to have amnesia. Not just when they take me over, but very large parts of my life. When I was young they were very active. As I get older they seem to take me over much less and are not as talkative. My head is very mixed up. bi-polar, schizo and more. I never did drugs and PTSD is likely. I have known two others who also had MPD or DID. They were very clearly DID to me. When I was in elementary school each personality was described as a very different person. And the two I knew who had DID were the same to me. The only treatment I had was just learning about my self. The psychologist was really knowledgeable.
Thank you for explaining it properly!!! We're not evil, we're traumatized.
When I was still able to attend college I was going for my psych degree & loved my abnormal psych class. We did a unit on the case study of the lady that inspired The 3 Faces of Eve movie. She had such a distinction between alters that one was visibly allergic to strawberries while the rest could eat them with no symptoms. The mind is a wondrous tool & has exceptional ways of protecting itself sometimes!
We have did (diagnosed eventually) and a psych once said they wouldn't diagnose us, not bc we didn't meet the diagnostic criteria but because she didn't think DID was real
How would you bring up having DID or OSDD? I've spoken about dissociation before, and no one seems to care. Idk what to do :( I have rlly bad anxiety abt it too
Hollywood movies portraying complicated and nuanced real issues as oversimplified caricatures that only serve their dramatic narratives?
Well, I never. Great article though!
Max Salmon as someone with multiple mental illnesses, I see no problem with dramatization.
And yet that was the story bought by psychology and the deluth model. It is sick.
I'm happy that you have made a video on the topic of DID! It's a disorder that is still sadly misunderstood and stigmatized a lot of the times. I have been studying DID quite intensely, and I feel like a few things are misrepresented in this video.
Firstly, DID is in fact not a rare disorder. Approximately 1,5% of the population have DID, which is about the same as schizophrenia which is not considered a rare disorder at all.
The amount of data and studies on DID has grown exponentially in the last couple of years and scientists almost universally agree that DID is caused by extreme repeated trauma in early childhood together with disorganized attachment and neglect.
Looking at this, it is easy to see why the outwardly presented symptoms are similar to PTSD and BPD. DID is what most psychologist call a 'meta disorder'. So a patient could have DID as well as PTSD and/or have a personality state that has BPD. That doesn't mean that they are or should be the same.
All personality states (or alters) a person has are parts of the whole the person was supposed to be but due to the immense trauma they faced as children, the mind dissociated to keep all the pieces of memory of the trauma seperate so the mind could survive.
(Source: www.isst-d.org/downloads/GUIDELINES_REVISED2011.pdf (among others))
If someone is still reading and is interested in learning more about this disorder from the amazing people who strive despite having it, the wonderful channel MultiplicityAndMe is a very good place to start! Thank you for reading!
I'd love to see a video on anxiety disorders: what causes them in the first place, what is going on inside the brain during periods of anxiety, etc.
It's basically an overreaction of the amygdala. Your amygdala is responsible for starting a fight-or-flight fear response, yes, but it's also responsible for stopping that fear response when it isn't necessary anymore. And when it isn't very good at stopping that response, it can lead to a kind of "always-on" stress response---or at least, on more powerfully and for longer than it should be, and at lower levels of stimulation. A neurotypical person might drop an issue after a few minutes, but an anxious person might worry about it for hours or even days. All y'all anxious people out there---it isn't your fault or anything, your amygdala just sucks at its job. *shakes fist* darn you, amygdala! You had one job! (Well, two jobs.)
Thank you for making an educational video on DID. We hope that our psychiatrist can help our suicidal and little alters find peace. You making this video means a lot and it helped our mom understand better since she can review it again when she forgets 💜
While it's true that most people with DID aren't actually particularly violent or dangerous, it's not as if there's no merit to the idea of it. The disorder most often comes as a way for one's mind to protect them from trauma by creating another personality that can better handle the trauma. It's not uncommon for the alters to be far more resilient and confident than the base, or at least, to excel in avoiding or defeating whatever trauma brought them into being. So, for instance, if someone is being abused by their parents and creates a second personality, this personality will either be able to handle the emotional abuse or will have the mindset to fight back against it. This CAN lead to a personality who is potentially violent or just a prick, and in the case of the former, odds are this personality will be very good at being violent since that's what they were made for.
I have DID due to trauma. I have three ones. When I feel good, the three become one, but I still have a hard time remembering feelings and experieneces from other ones. I have hard time getting into relationships and finding friends because different ones want different things and can decide to cut off people for the other ones
I really would appreciate someone focusing on the people like myself with DID. The majority of people with DID do not have symptoms like this and so many people dont even try to understand my disorder bc they say I dont have it bc I dont act like this. Most people with alters dont have different names they are just different emotional states not personalities hence why they changed the name of the disorder. I have atleast ten alters and they are ALL named Ashley bc this disorder is designed to be not be noticable unless you are around the person with it for a considerable amount of time or you are unlucky enough to be around when they get triggered but most of us have a part that takes control when we go out in public so we look like normal healthy people. I only switch when I am triggered and those moments are misunderstood bc there's no information out there on it 😔There is so much misinformation out there and it's so frustrating. Cases like this (where alters have names) are extremely rare in the DID community and I feel like everyone wants to focus on them while forgetting about the rest of us. Someone with influence needs to show what the majority of people with DID are actually like I am so the public can stop expecting me to transform into someone with another name it's so frustrating I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder for 10 years as many people with DID are and I got lucky enough to finally find a therapist that could tell what was really going on so I could get the right treatment bc treatment for bipolar disorder doesnt help people with DID my therapist specialized in trauma work and works with people with DID and when I asked her about all the info saying alters have different names her response was 'I'm not going to say that their experience isnt real bc that's not my job but I can tell you in the 30 years I've done this work I havent met 1 client with DID who's alters have different names.' The disorder is designed to not be recognized that's why when you go into public your put together part is in control so that people can't detect the disorder and you seem normal and healthy. To tell the states apart we give them tag names but they dont use the tag names themselves for example some of mine are: the suicidal one, the homicidal one, the runner, frozen, tears, queen bee, the depressed one, my protector etc etc but most people have no idea I have this disorder bc when I go into public either queen bee takes control or my recovery oriented self takes control creating an image of a healthy person until a rare situation occurs the triggers me and i switch. It's also frustrating bc I've met several people who most definitely have the same disorder I do and they dont believe me when I try to explain it to them bc there's so much misinformation out there so so many ppl are suffering with the wrong diagnosis bc of this
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth
Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
You said everything really well x
@@Ohkeh640 I know it's scary but if you're having those thoughts I suggest seeking some type of therapy at the very least to try to help you those are very difficult moments to have to experience. I've been there and now as someone who found a way to heal and move forward I now understand just how peaceful life can be when we recover. You can overcome this, i believe in you 💪
agree
I think it was a coping mechanism. But when the doctor wrote the book on her, she must have realized that he took her coping mechanism at face value, because he wasn’t inside her head. That is to say, making it up *is* the disorder, and is done for legitimate reasons - to cope. I think it’s likely that her actual personality didn’t entirely disappear, which is what makes her say it was a lie, but the fact still remained that she needed to suppress her identity and invent a new one, whether it was consciously or unconsciously doesn’t really matter.
((I wrote this as an answer to someone, but figured it’d make a good comment as well ))
Danielle Spargo I just wanted to say that your comment was very well thought-out and reading it gave me something to think about regarding the subject at hand. Have a nice day!
Thank you for the neurological explanation. I know issues with the glutamate system, (NMDA in particular) also have a strong connection with disassociation. Looking back at my post, I don't think I expressed myself exactly in the way I wanted to. Whatever the neurological basis behind it, it's certain to happen in degrees, that is to say, hippocampal volume and whatnot are not just a set of two values, but rather a range of volumes. So while an extreme neurological aberration might present as a person with fractured personalities that resemble those from movies (ie the person has completely different personalities with no connection to one another, and no combined will); a more moderate case might look like Sybil, who says she made it up. It certainly takes some type of propensity towards that behavior to make something like that up in the first place. I know I couldn't do it if I tried.
I'm a little confused by your comment. You say that "making it up is the disorder". So are you suggesting that the disorder isn't real or in the meta sense where if you think you have the disorder, then you have it? Also "her actual personality didn't entirely disappear". I've never heard of a DID case where the original 'personality' disappeared, only fragmented. And the only cases I know of where any 'personality disappears' is when identities integrate. I believe the words for people who lie to themselves are self-deception, and the word for people who lie to others is liars.
I have an argument against this idea. Really what you suggest is a question of labels. The problem is that in the case of people like Sybil with the current DID definition, they are faking DID. They do not actually have amnesia or multiple identities other than themselves, which is a prerequisite of DID so to speak. Also, I've heard of a method to diagnosis DID based on MRI Scans. It has the patient MRI scanned while switching identities. Where this really hurts the most is that there are two huge stigmas of DID which are the belief that DID can be faked and that DID is not actual disorder. In my opinion, adding people who simply believe themselves to have the condition to be medically diagnosed with DID simply causes more bad than good for therapists and DID patients. I think that there is a different disorder that works better for them.
+Duy Nguyen It's weird to me that you don't understand her point and then disagree with it, while on another person's comment you posted a link to an article that describes this exact thing and use it as a denial of that person's claim.
This is a really important, often misunderstood topic for many and you do a fantastic job at describing it and the controversy. I think you did a great service here with this video.
Missing time or suddenly finding yourself in a place with no idea how you got there are two of the most frightening experiences a friend with DID told me about.
we have 24 alters. and this is kinda correct but fragments are a different type of alters who isn't fully formed. and alters are completely diff ppl .
Yeay! Thanks for this video! I don't personally have DID, I have OSDD-1B, which lacks the amnesia component (it's... Fun at times). But I have a lot of friends who have DID, and struggle to find therapists who don't completely invalidate their alters :/
same! (on the non-amnesiac part)
I was curious to see if you guys did a video about this, and I feel like you did a pretty decent job with it. Thanks for doing a good job, and not portraying it negatively.
All I wanna say is, as an extremely popular UA-cam channel, thank you for shedding light on this complex disorder. Thank you.
I came here because I just wanted to learn more about all kinds of dissociation. Lately, I have been experiencing amnesia and I have been confusing reality. I often cant remember if I had a conversation or not. Today my mom showed me a picture of her friend showing her red dress in the morning and I even said something about how the dress was pretty. Today afternoon she told me that she told her I said it was pretty but I was shocked because I didnt remember. At all. I didnt even like those kinda dresses. She showed me the picture and I didnt remember seeing it. This has been happening often lately and I've been having out of body experiences.
Personally, from seeing issues with other psychiatric disorders, I think DID may be self-enclosing as a means of protecting itself. Many disorders may push the people with them to deny they have anything wrong at all, and it’s possible DID is better at this. It’s also possible she was afraid or unhappy about the attention to her past and history, even with the name changes, and denied it for that reason.
I was diagnosed the ID. And it stems from PTSD and abuse at least to me. I really appreciated this video because he did a better job of explaining what it really is versus what it’s really Not thank you
Whether it's used as a coping mechanism or it's a genuine neurological disorder, being that deep in fragmentation is something worth treating and taking seriously. I constructed a second alter for myself in my late childhood and it served me very well in terms of coping with a traumatic household/coping with the stress of trans related dysphoria. It was useful when I needed it, but when it started to hinder my life, it took a compassionate therapist who took me seriously in order to bring the fragmented pieces of myself together again. Whatever the cause, it's important to take this stuff at face value. Even if someone is just doing it for attention, that in and of itself is still worth getting help over.
This video was so needed. Thank you.
Dissociative identity disorder is my favourite topic of study / discussion .... In my society where I live , this DID is very rarely seen . Although I am not a psychology student but the field psychology is really amazing .
I've been through it. It was triggered by rejection trauma in BPD. I was in a fragmented identity state for about 2 months. It started as a catatonic episode, then the hallucinations started, then it was the second-guessing, then it felt like there were three of me in the one place. I didn't gain my sense of self back for ages.
Thankfully, all is well and good, I found a good psychiatrist after that and my treatment has been going well for nearly 2 years :)
DID develops due to chronic trauma before the ages 6-9 (before the orbitofrontal cortex experienced a period of rapid growth) and is shown to have neurobiological differences due to how chronic trauma can impact brain development in early childhood. So no, you have not had DID, probably derealization/depersonalization as those can be caused later in life mixed with psychosis which can happen in BPD.
Am loving the videos on disorders you've been doing. Could you do one on aspd?
I think one path to DID (and part of its rarity) is undiagnosed/unacknowledged ADHD with RSD combined with a PTSD inducing emotionally neglectful/abusive home life in childhood. That path is a perfect storm of memory problems, frequent dysphoric episodes, and unaddressed trauma paired with lack of healthy coping mechanisms. Obviously there can be other paths with different sources of stresses and triggers for fracturing as coping mechanism.
I was diagnosed with bpd a couple months ago and just earlier today I realized that I might have alternate personalities. I was listening to a youtuber explain her experiences with did and I drew a lot of parallels with myself and her. This is going to take A LOT of self reflection and I'll talk to my therapist when I can, but I thank you for pointing out the similarities between bpd and did. There's one specific alternate personality that I can think of, but I think I might have others. I just want clarification and closure with myself, I have the feeling that I'm onto something here.
I am diagnosed with DID and ptsd, and I do not fit the criteria of BPD (got tested for it multiple times only fit 3 out of 5 required of which there are 9 in total) there aren't many similarities imo. It can overlap for some, but even having ptsd plus something else can cause a BPD misdiagnosis (or just having scars from self harm). And as far as I understand the "identity confusion" in BPD can lead to mirroring someone else and the personality fluctuating etc. But that's not the same as a dissociated identity in DID. If you know you have BPD and realized you might have DID due to listening to someone who has it, I'd be very careful with that.
Cookie Panda yea I know, but thanks. I'm just wondering at this point, but your comment was fairly helpful
katrinawolf It is good and important that you are going to talk with your therapist about it.
Could you consider doing a video on depersonalization and derealization?
They did, Crash Course Psychology: Schizophrenia and dissociatiative disorders
@@dustinjames1268 That video only talked about Schizophrenia and DID.
Personally, I liked how objective they remained in this. I think a lot of times people forget that science is always changing and gathering new evidence. Who knows, in the next few years we could learn so much more about DID! I think they gave a good overview of the topic, and I think that's what's important. Dispell the common myths and let the public know about it.
Thank you SciShow! This was a good video and I'm glad that this was handled in such a scientific and explanatory way!!
Don't call me shirley
“Surely you can’t be serious?”
Really underappreciated joke here y'all
@@incorporealnuance clap clap
I just finished watching Mr. Robot and I came here to find out more about this disorder.
I run conferences full of mes and my selves inside my head.
We discuss everything and solve every problem.
It's fun inside my head.
This is so informative,thank you!
This helped us a lot, thank you for this wonderful video.
thank you. i just watched the ep of crash course that discussed it last night and was hoping scishow psych would address it soon, since the rundown in crash course was abhorrent. from someone with a very close friend with the disorder, this is much better. still not perfect, but much better.
I kind of wish there was a mention that DID and depersonalizing are different because it took me some time to separate the two.
It can be thought that both can stem from the same things (ie. trauma) but they don't work the same. Dissociation deals with fragments of a person's personality, memories, etc. While depersonalizing, atleast for myself, is being outside of one's body. You have your body and you know it's yours but you have taken a step away from it in order to deal with what is happening.
Both can be difficult to deal with and deserve attention.
I did a paper on Sybil in abnormal psych class and came to the same conclusion that she either made it all up with the therapist coaxing expected behaviors out of her, or that only a few of the personalities namely the French girl that was sent to live with her were separate personalities
Thanks for all your utube channels
According to Sigmund FRAUD, there's one common thing among all personalities one has:
Incestuous desire.
wincest
"The Lannister Way"
Lol
We can't discredit every single thing Freud did. I don't get why people are so angry at a guy who isn't even here 😂
MissPronounced Who's Freud? Did you misspell Sigmund Fraud's last name?
I have a Bipolar Disorder along with dissocitive fugue and dissociative identity disorder. This was a very good video on what it is all about. I have had experiences where I have had conversations, said and done other things and shortly after I have no knowledge of what took place. If I don''t have someone close who has witnessed my actions and bring it up later, I may never know that I did these dissociated things. If someone close brings up something that I did, and I have no knowledge of having done it, then I have to accept that it happened while I was dissociated. This is not easy to accept that you can do things without a conscious memory of what you did. It can be quite unsettling and even dangerous at times.
lol, I met with some mental health professionals today to discuss my assessment and they basically clarified to me that if I was not threatening physical harm against myself or others through my behaviour then there was no point in labelling me and as for what I wanted out of treatment, they said that none of us know how to get the best out of our life, and they asked if I'm interested in health so much, why don't I get a job along the lines of research etc... which I agreed with but then I come away and now I just want a girlfriend again and to play the piano... she asked me about my history and where I went with music and I said that I went from music to studying maths to IT to care work... and that I don't really know my reasons but it always seems rational at the time, and she asked me 'does your personality change a lot' and come to think of it, this is why I struggle to have friends because no one knows how to treat me, because it's like I'm not the same person... and I experience a real conflict with knowing what I want and who I am and so I don't bother trying to pursue anything so that people don't expect anything, but then I suppose I should just roll with it and explain myself to others better.
If you are a risk to yourself or others, labels is the least of your worries, they'd put you in the closed section of a psych ward. Diagnoses are important for: 1. meds and so your health professionals can easily know what it is you are struggling with 2. insurance coverage 3. if it is debilitating which a lot of mental illnesses can be, it helps to get disability. But your "personality changing" is not the same as having DID.
I've known someone with DID and I've seen them when different alters were in control. The vibe I got was very similar to a typical case of mistaken identity on my part the first time around and they really did act like a different person. They also had a history of repressed trauma and an unpleasant past. :3
It's a pen name. :3
This is a good explanation of the disorder.
I always think of myself as being two. There's me and there's another me. She is like the bucket where I dump all my negative experience in a day and she keeps me stress free the entire time so I can function well in the society. There will be a time when people say something nasty to me but being a nice person I am I always treat people well despite their actions. So, when that happens, long after the nasty people had gone off somewhere else, I will feel this foreign anger inside. I said foreign because I think it isn't entirely mine. That's when I Know it's hers. That will be my cue for a bathroom break so that I can have a moment to have a little talk to myself. The anger will be gone later... I have to do that, or I have no idea what she will do to that nasty person. She is in some occasion pretty violent. She had never caused any violence before but I'm not taking any chance. She is quite violent in my head😂. Sometimes, I heard voices in my head, encouraging words, advices, ideas, suggestions that I never thought I could come out with. She's very intelligent and protective. She's like an invisible body guard to me. I make time to do things she likes sometimes as thanks. Haha... And yes, I sometimes talk to myself, aloud.
So, do I have DID? Or is it just another strange stress coping mechanism?
I know someone who has a second personality, but they have no memory loss and are not distressed by their condition. Additionally, they are fully aware of what is reality and what comes from their second personality. They do have overly controling parents but definitely weren't subject to abuse as a child. It is unclear whether they have DID, but I am tempted to say no. There is a community of people who have tulpas, which is what I just described.
DID presents in many different ways and can be caused by prolonged stress in place of outright abuse.
OSDD-1b is a form of DID that leaves the person with little to no amnesia. I have a DID diagnosis and I am not distressed by my condition either- which is because it is a coping mechanism. It took a while for me to come to terms with it and to develop better in-system communication, but once I did, it really wasn't so bad anymore. Most of my alters are incredibly kind people who do so much to protect us as a whole. And considering the in-system communication is pretty good it's easier to become aware of who is who. Also, trauma doesn't necessarily happen because of traditional abuse, not to mention you aren't in their brain. You don't know what they are experiencing. The brain is incredibly complicated and a DID diagnosis usually takes ages to get.
Dissociative Identity Disorder is DEFINITELY a real condition and is DEFINITELY a trauma thing.
This is coming from someone with PTSD and DDNOS.
I think DDNOS is worth mentioning, and it stands for Disassociative Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. This is the diagnosis you get when you have dissociative/DID symptoms but don't meet the full criteria for DID. Like, I haven't had amensia or lost significant chunks of memory for a long long time. The best treatment for DID involves therapy for the trauma, and therapy and skills for working more cooperatively with all parts of yourself. It's really empowering and I've found it to be a largely positive experience.
Now if we could replace Split and Sybil with better media representation, that'd be nice.
To be honest at this point you guys should just dedicate an entire series just covering the DSM-V.
I'm legit scared to even go to the doctor because of how I appear, getting 51/50'd is literally worse than death
FIRST RULE OF FIGHT CLUB "U DONT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!"
The issue with many of the accounts represent what it’s like living with DID make it look like living in a reality TV show, like having best friends, boyfriends and pets as alter. This is a very serious, potentially lethal, trauma response that nearly killed me.
I was diagnosed in 2003 and have specialized in working with people having these experiences for many years. The level of dissociation is key to identifying it (as indicated by diagnosis).
I’m interested in reading the research and information that substantiates that it’s as “common as red hair.” Are people on social media saying this, because this has not been my experience while working with hundreds and hundreds of people with extreme trauma histories.
I’m sad to say I have complex ptsd and DID. It’s very difficult to say the least and Hollywood doesn’t help at all
I’ve heard it said that DID is the worst state of CPTSD. And in most cases, DID is highly linked to childhood trauma. So….yeah. It should never be seen as a stand-alone disorder
I have bpd and it does fit, except that it's just like i'm a social chameleon. Even with myself. It would be interesting to hear about bpd from you
By the way, skills that one personality fragment (or alter) obtains are shared among all the personality fragments in the mind; if one of them learns a language, all the others will also know the language most often without a memory of having learned it.
So that lady went to her psychiatrist just to troll them by pretending to have multiple personalities for fun?
Nah, i think it was a coping mechanism. But when the doctor wrote the book on her, she must have realized that he took her coping mechanism at face value, because he wasn’t inside her head. That is to say, making it up *is* the disorder, and is done for legitimate reasons - to cope. I think it’s likely that her actual personality didn’t entirely disappear, which is what makes her say it was a lie, but the fact still remained that she needed to suppress her identity and invent a new one, whether it was consciously or unconsciously doesn’t really matter.
maybe there is a different explaination. people with DID, especially the hosts, struggle with denial very badly. few DID patients who never sat at their therapists office and blurted out "I think we don't have DID. We must be making it up".
Also, considering her admission came years later via a single letter, it's just as possible it was sent by a different personality. Sometimes it's like a big game of cat and mouse in DID heads
now they just do that on tumblr where people's systems are 90% fictional charcter
Yes. She was hysterical.
I'm the host of a system (the main personality of someone with DID) and I'm so glad that they did a well informed episode on this!!! there is so much stigma around it and Split is Not a good representation of the disorder -T
DR. TURTLEMAN HE IS TOTALLY NOT FAKE (:
Thank you
Good episode!!!
Hey can you talk about Satanic Panic and mental health malpractice? It relates to DID/MPD and makes me really cautious and curious regarding legitimate diagnoses.
Honestly it might just be very intense roleplaying that feels completely real but is actually a manifestation of the mind
"What's your name?"
"Me? I'm John"
"OK John, what are you complaining?"
"Wait my name is Mike"
It's weird having DID and remembering that very few people have almost no memories of their childhood.
@SciShow Psych could you please resurch this again and update this video? The UA-cam channels of theEntropySystem, DissociaDID, multiplicityandme and TeamPinata and AcrylicandAether doing a great job of educating about DID and depunking myths.
Sonni Zitrone Yes! I agree! I would like an update. I’m a OSDD1b system and I’d really like better information on this.
Forgetting who you are isnt the scariest part imo, to me it's realizing that you forgot
so Thats why i Been feeling a Certain way for 3 years..
Hey I need a friend
I have it too my whole family left me I’m alone in my bedroom and I can barely call the ambulance I’m not going to harm myself but I’ve thought about leaving the earth
Please can we be in touch? I’m happy to talk. I need someone i feel so alone ❤❤❤
I have been diagnosed with PTSD and DID since 2009. I def don't qualify for BPD. And the diagnosis has not been doubted as much as you make it sound like. neither is the connection to extreme childhood trauma. A fugue state is very different from switching to say a 7 year old part, who is always the same 7 year old with her own share of the memories, memories that are real and not made up to fill a gap. PTSD is also a very different diagnosis, based on trauma, flashbacks, hypervigilance and avoidance, not dissociated personality parts. if anyone is looking for self-help to cope with DID come visit us at www.dis-sos.com
I had a neighbour like that & I used to think that she has Multiple Personality Disorder, until I figure out from reviewing the books I have that she's possibly a Borderline personality. It might seem that the difference is vague, but the reality that MPD don't remember what they do, yet it's a noticeable by people who surround them in their daily life, While BPD do remember, and they shift in personality not in their identity, So BPD will have bursts of temper & destructive behaviour and they turn from extreme to extreme,(e.g. from a very sweet & polite person to aggressive, intimidating & destructive) for usually few minutes, usually there are physical symptoms as well:the facial expressions will change( as if they've been possessed) I remember my neighbour screaming, closing her eyes, kicking on the floor, hitting her head on the wall, after an argument with her husband, when the episode wears off, she looks apologetic & ashamed like a child who's who done something wrong, even the voice changes to a child's voice, It used to scare the hell out of me. They can be delusional and dangerous at times. Early sings are all those strange bursts: like she would look at u and say: hello sweet heart (smiling) & then, she would look away and start to swear and call u with names, and that's why the diagnosis can easily mixed with MPD.
It started to sound like me up until the major symptom was mentioned. As far as I know, I do not have amnesia but I do have memory problems. Of course, my mind never shuts off and my sleeping troubles likely contribute to that so there's that. But seriously, I do feel like I am a fragmented person sometimes... And it's made worse since I have PTSD from an abusive past.
To me it was awful for many years that I didn't get diagnosed with DID or DD it's kinda still unclear what because it's not that specific and just happend couple of changes how they're listed - and mine is unspecific one, mix bag...
Anyway.. Years I was always subcribed with depression medications when I complained something - what didn't help one bit. Until one day one doctor gave me DID test - even the nurse said that she had never seen that test before.
That finally started the progress of doing something about it. Depression had been just symptom because I got so tired of all the work I had to do to keep my mental state together and still continue normally in society. Also because I tested that it was possible - I started getting other test so things could be ruled out.
Despite it being thought as rare.. Maybe it isn't that rare or at least the test for DID is wider enough than most (especially depression) test that they should at least give it more often to rule out or in some things.
I didn't have enough money for good enough therapy but cheap one what I got at least teach me how to live with it and avoid stress what makes it often worse.
I think my first bf from when I was in high school may have had this. I remember him telling me about various friends he had who I’ve never met. I still remember their names too. When he broke up with me via letter, he wrote it saying his name was Steven. I remember showing the letter to his brother the next day and he confirmed it was his bro.
I don't really understand why sources call "about 1%" rare? How is that rare, that would mean that almost everyone knows at least one person with DID. I think it's not a good idea to call that rare, it causes people to question themselves or others.
I think we all agree that our memories make us who we are. Everything we think, feel, believe, and do is based on the sum of our experiences. So if, at different times, we lose access to some of those memories, but not others... wouldn't that seem to ourselves and others like we're a different person?
For instance, let's say my favorite color is blue because, subconsciously, I remember being in awe of a clear blue sky once when I was a child. Now, decades later, that memory is lost (or inaccessible). Would I still love blue? Maybe not. I might look into my closet and be like, "Ew, what's with all these blue clothes?" Obviously color preference is a minor example, but you can see the idea, right?
So I'm wondering if DID/fugue states are not a causal disorder, but merely a symptom of shifting, temporary memory loss?
It is a disorder caused by chronic trauma before the ages 6-9 that disrupts the development of an integrated sense of self as neurological research shows (which this video somehow conveniently seemed to ignore):
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25670646
“ Shared abnormal brain structures in DID-PTSD and PTSD-only, small hippocampal volume in DID-PTSD, more severe lifetime traumatizing events in DID-PTSD compared with PTSD-only, and negative correlations between lifetime traumatizing events and hippocampal volume suggest a trauma-related etiology for DID “
www.researchgate.net/publication/5810713_Volume_of_discrete_brain_structures_in_complex_dissociative_disorders_Preliminary_findings
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0098795
"The findings are consistent with TSDP and inconsistent with the idea
that DID is caused by suggestion, fantasy proneness, and role-playing."
www.empty-memories.nl/science/Vermettenetal.pdf
www.researchgate.net/publication/221695375_Evaluation_of_the_Evidence_for_the_Trauma_and_Fantasy_Models_of_Dissociation
“ there is strong empirical support for the hypothesis that trauma causes dissociation, and that dissociation remains related to trauma history when fantasy proneness is controlled. We find little support for the hypothesis that the dissociation-trauma relationship is due to fantasy proneness or confabulated memories of trauma.”
www.researchgate.net/publication/261217759_Is_the_Dissociative_Adult_Suggestible_A_Test_of_the_Trauma_and_Fantasy_Models_of_Dissociation
“The results consistently support the Trauma Model of dissociation and fail to support the Fantasy Model of dissociation.”
www.neuroimaging-did.com/Papers/Chalavi_Reinders_PSYN-D-14-00159R1_select.pdf
"DID-specific abnormalities involved the inferior parietal cortex, putamen and pallidum, which were associated with dissociative and depersonalization/derealization symptoms and can be considered neurobiological markers for DID. Our findings support trauma-related models of DID"journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0039279
"The findings are at odds with the idea that differences among different
types of dissociative identity states in DID can be explained by high
fantasy proneness, motivated role-enactment, and suggestion. They
indicate that DID does not have a sociocultural (e.g., iatrogenic)
origin."www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213158213000892
www.bu.edu/writingprogram/journal/past-issues/issue-3/manton/
Thanks Hank.
Yes true this makes emotional unavailable
I wonder if SciShow would do an episode more specifically on OSDD.