The Scientific American Goes Woke + Laura Helmuth's Resignation. By Michael Shermer

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  • "An Unscientific American" discusses the resignation of Laura Helmuth from her position as editor-in-chief at Scientific American. The author, Michael Shermer, argues that her departure exemplifies the risks of blending facts with ideology in scientific communication.
    Helmuth faced backlash after posting controversial remarks on social media regarding political views, which led to public criticism and her eventual resignation. Shermer reflects on how the magazine's editorial direction has shifted towards progressive ideology, suggesting this has compromised its scientific integrity. He notes that had Helmuth made disparaging comments about liberal viewpoints, her outcome would likely have been more severe.
    The article critiques Scientific American for endorsing positions on gender and race that Shermer sees as ideologically driven rather than based on scientific evidence. He expresses concern that such ideological capture within scientific publications can distort facts and undermine credibility.
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    About the Author
    Michael Shermer is a prominent science writer and the founder of the Skeptics Society. He is known for his work promoting scientific skepticism and questioning pseudoscience. Shermer is also the author of several books on belief, morality, and the nature of science, including The Believing Brain and The Moral Arc.
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  • @markcarew6724
    @markcarew6724 2 місяці тому +1689

    I was a subscriber to "Scientific American" for 41 years, up until 2021. I canceled my subscription after the magazine became nothing more than a propaganda rag for the radical left. The final straw came when a regular columnist stated that "There needs to be fewer white males reading Scientific American." I followed the columnist's suggestion.

    • @v2ike6udik
      @v2ike6udik 2 місяці тому

      you need to to cancel anti-woke too as woke was a distraction when antiwoke bobheads were installed in place, claiming to be saviors and chosen ones. NOOT.

    • @Randomest_Stories
      @Randomest_Stories 2 місяці тому +52

      👍

    • @item6931
      @item6931 2 місяці тому +98

      I wasn't a subscriber for nearly as long, but unsubbed about the same time. They should've just renamed themselves, "Minitrue Doubleplus Goodthinking Oceanian."

    • @nothing-jl2dz
      @nothing-jl2dz 2 місяці тому +22

      Good choice.

    • @ericrawson2909
      @ericrawson2909 2 місяці тому +44

      I unsubscribed about then after around twenty years.

  • @harrymills2770
    @harrymills2770 2 місяці тому +800

    Neil deGrasse Tyson said "They fired her, didn't they?" Bill Maher said "But they published this crap!" which is the most important thing. The fact that such a person could rise to editor-in-chief of Scientific American says it's not worth the paper it's printed on.

    • @HighlanderNorth1
      @HighlanderNorth1 2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately, our most important institutions have been captured by a combination of rad-ik-ul l e f t i s t s & kor-rupt neo-lib-erals who are selling out everything to the BlackRock corporate elites.

    • @Absaalookemensch
      @Absaalookemensch 2 місяці тому +85

      Just ask Neil deGrasse Tyson why over 2,000 males beat the world's female 1 mile record if biology isn't a significant factor in sports.

    • @juliocosta5818
      @juliocosta5818 2 місяці тому

      Degrasse Tyson also appears to have caught that "woke" mind-virus.

    • @NichaelCramer
      @NichaelCramer 2 місяці тому +6

      Um, they (SA) *didn’t* “publish this cr@p”. It was on her private account.

    • @christinehede7578
      @christinehede7578 2 місяці тому +48

      @@NichaelCramerit published a lot of crap with her at the helm.

  • @wetwingnut
    @wetwingnut 2 місяці тому +501

    Scientific American changed my life in high school and into college.
    A couple of years ago, when my son was in the 8th grade, I bought him a subscription remembering how much it taught me.
    When the first issue came he brought it to me asking why on earth I got this for him. When I skimmed through the issue we tossed it in the trash.

    • @pamtnman1515
      @pamtnman1515 2 місяці тому +26

      The Lancet is also going down this same ridiculous path

    • @dannynrny473
      @dannynrny473 2 місяці тому +13

      Yuor kid is smart. Thank God

    • @stellafalconer6715
      @stellafalconer6715 2 місяці тому +3

      @@pamtnman1515yes, it is. 😱

    • @dueldab2117
      @dueldab2117 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @anthonysanlucas6437
      @anthonysanlucas6437 2 місяці тому +10

      It is probably a good idea for you to review your son’s text books and homework assignments as I can guarantee you the same agenda is in his school. Or don’t.
      It is best to homeschool folks.

  • @brynduffy
    @brynduffy 2 місяці тому +424

    "those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities"
    - Voltaire

    • @TomGrubbe
      @TomGrubbe 2 місяці тому +6

      Great quote.

    • @razor6552
      @razor6552 2 місяці тому +4

      We see it in action daily

    • @davidwright8432
      @davidwright8432 2 місяці тому +2

      Vindicated in one word: Amalek.

    • @B_Estes_Undegöetz
      @B_Estes_Undegöetz 2 місяці тому +2

      Such as ??? Cynical misanthropic “both sides” liberal quotes help nobody. You mean like how absurd it is to accept an orange felon as a “non-absurd” leader of our democracy? What exactly do you mean there Voltaire? Less culture war. More economic class analysis and class consciousness.

    • @razor6552
      @razor6552 2 місяці тому +14

      @B_Estes_Undegöetz
      If you're still calling President Trump the "orange felon" then you don't understand what's going on.

  • @iyziejane
    @iyziejane 2 місяці тому +306

    We're decades into the problem of giving PhDs to people who do not deserve them. Almost all PhDs now are just normal average people who don't have the slightest inkling of what it means to be a doctor of philosophy.

    • @firstlast-gr9xs
      @firstlast-gr9xs 2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately , these titles are given for political views not scientific contribution. Soon the same will happen with Nobel praises. Barack Hussein Obama got one for archiving nothing, bowing down to a Muslim dictator, before he had even started doing anything. What a sham world we got ourselves into.

    • @manojudd8638
      @manojudd8638 2 місяці тому +36

      A Ph.D used to separate the men from the boys. A Ph.D was far far more difficult than completing a Masters degree, which all Ph.D students got along the way. Most recently, Universities and Colleges have reduced the requirements for the Ph.D. In Electrical Engineering 30 years ago, you had to be expert in 3 major sub fields. The Ph.D often took 4 to 7 years of full time work to complete. Today, many universities and colleges have reduced the requirement to a single sub-field, and most candidates are completing their work in 2 to 3 years. Basically, they have reduced the Ph.D curriculum and academic requirements to simply another Master's Degree. It's become all about the money to colleges. They don't care that they have dumbed down the status of the Ph.D, as long as they make more money per student since the college's costs are now much less.

    • @iyziejane
      @iyziejane 2 місяці тому +17

      @@manojudd8638 I agree with all of that, and I would like to demand even more. When Plato defined the term "philosophy" he meant to capture an unrelenting love and hunger for all of knowledge ("when you love something, do you love it in part, or in whole?"). Knowledge he meant, not wisdom. A PhD is supposed to be a person with a lifelong insatiable curiosity for all parts of learning, the ability to master any domain of knowledge. The specialization in a particular subfield is meant to certify that they could equally well learn any field they chose. That's specifically why the term "philosophy" is used for all PhDs.

    • @robertwalker2052
      @robertwalker2052 2 місяці тому

      Boy thermonuclear howdy.

    • @pamtnman1515
      @pamtnman1515 2 місяці тому

      Plus all the faked academic papers

  • @AlmostEthical
    @AlmostEthical 2 місяці тому +293

    I once made a quiet point on a podcasting professor that universities were increasingly prescriptive in telling students what they should think. I was met with a stream of insults and foul-mouthed invective. It's odd how many intellectuals(?) think that abusing those they disagree with is appropriate or helpful, as opposed to arguing lucidly.

    • @roch145
      @roch145 2 місяці тому

      You weren’t getting a thinking academic angry at you. You were getting a liberal activist angry at you. Liberals are an intolerant bunch. They are so intolerant they even get upset with other liberals who don’t 100% support the liberal agenda.

    • @ralphmck6369
      @ralphmck6369 2 місяці тому

      Academia has become infested with fanatical Marxist ideologues, it's no longer fit for purpose and should be dismantled!

    • @danielcurda3633
      @danielcurda3633 2 місяці тому +2

      Seems like you could have worked in a few more words from the SAT into this comment. Maybe give it another revision?

    • @AlmostEthical
      @AlmostEthical 2 місяці тому +24

      @@danielcurda3633 Sorry for being literate. You clearly know best, so you can do the revision.

    • @kentbetts
      @kentbetts 2 місяці тому +1

      The posts by this lady, putatively intelligent, contained no substantial thoughts. I think I could have done it better, actually. If I was idiotic enough to think Kamala should have won, that is. I suspect she was intoxicated.

  • @BOPBOY60
    @BOPBOY60 2 місяці тому +489

    Her " scientific " acumen will be most welcomed at The View

    • @carpediem6431
      @carpediem6431 2 місяці тому +19

      She’s committed “editorial objectivity” 😂 There’s not a single person on Blue Cry that’s interested in this, including her.

    • @themagicbuzz5728
      @themagicbuzz5728 2 місяці тому +7

      Nailed it….

    • @karthy257
      @karthy257 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @mikemines2931
      @mikemines2931 2 місяці тому +6

      You are awful but I like you.

    • @theodosios2615
      @theodosios2615 2 місяці тому +9

      Ah, yes... That prestigious peer-reviewed platform for illuminating our minds.

  • @wolfgangmarvelous7239
    @wolfgangmarvelous7239 2 місяці тому +360

    I have not read Scientific American for many years. I had no idea they were publishing these garbage, woke articles. Excellent essay by Michael Shermer.

    • @deekay7442
      @deekay7442 2 місяці тому +18

      Oh they bloody were. I stopped reading them some years back and also stopped recommending them for my kids.

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 2 місяці тому

      October's cover: How to go back to the moon. The science of empathy. A chickadee mystery. Hope for sickle cell disease.
      November's cover: Learning from Lucy. Did dark energy change. Leap secons. The staggering success of vaccines.
      I do not understand all the offended posters here. I guess maybe the anti-vaxers and creationists could be triggered but why would they buy SA and come post their cancel culture here.

    • @JamesWilliams-en3os
      @JamesWilliams-en3os 2 місяці тому

      SciAm had become a self-styled "upscale" version of Popular Science magazine more than a quarter-century ago. Unlike PS, it has had no usefulness for even longer than that. At least one could use the pages of Popular Science for outdoor toilet wipes or to start the fire in one's wood stove, but SciAm's gloss-coat paper isn't even usable for these low purposes. Good riddance.

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 2 місяці тому

      most posters here are like you. They have no idea. No clue. No sense.
      They are here to gripe, lie and bluff like the typical social media rabble.

    • @Bingewatchingmediacontent
      @Bingewatchingmediacontent 8 днів тому

      I used to get it at the airport book store every time I went on a flight. I didn’t go anywhere via air for a couple of years, and so I was shocked and disappointed when I did fly out of SFO and looked forward to the bite sized pop science magazine that always made the airport experience less painful, only to find that it was pushing ideology that I consider akin to relgious doctrine.

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 2 місяці тому +8

    Thank you, sir, for an excellent expose on the demise of the once terrific Scientific American. I could not agree more. I'm a retired grad degreed Aerospace Engineer with a large American defense contractor's Missile Systems Company and started reading SA in my undergrad college library in the late 70's. But have thrown nothing but disdain its way the last 10+ years.

  • @deanedge5988
    @deanedge5988 2 місяці тому +48

    The Lancet in the UK is another example of the rising tide of structured embedded ignorance.

    • @marichristian
      @marichristian 2 місяці тому

      I'm stunned. The Lancet used to be noted for the rigor of its editorial team. Having a paper accepted for publication was a coup in the medical research field. It put the individual or team on the map.

    • @harryplummer6356
      @harryplummer6356 2 місяці тому +1

      And the BMJ.

    • @andrewcorrie8936
      @andrewcorrie8936 2 місяці тому +2

      @@harryplummer6356 BMJ is the organ of the BMA, I think, which is also a hotbed of activism these days.

    • @andrewcorrie8936
      @andrewcorrie8936 2 місяці тому +1

      @@marichristian NEJM is still good, but for how long...?

    • @harryplummer6356
      @harryplummer6356 2 місяці тому

      @@andrewcorrie8936 Quite right.

  • @lostarrow861
    @lostarrow861 2 місяці тому +431

    New Scientist mag went the same way and National Geographic has become plain nauseating with wokery.

    • @davidmackie8552
      @davidmackie8552 2 місяці тому +20

      Agreed!

    • @ericrawson2909
      @ericrawson2909 2 місяці тому +17

      Yes, cancelled this as well.

    • @johnelliott0101
      @johnelliott0101 2 місяці тому +8

      Absolutely agree

    • @tomfowler1268
      @tomfowler1268 2 місяці тому +11

      Are used to subscribe to all three, no more

    • @arentube8123
      @arentube8123 2 місяці тому +28

      Agree, Nat Geo does not even come close to hiring the types of professionals that they used to. It's just a bunch of work-from-home journalists, that read other leftists news, talk to a few "experts" over the phone, and then regurgitate the same nonsense as what was already published by some other leftists. Journalism and news is all a race to the bottom right now. There is no money to support the types of quality journalism needed to create an in-depth, original work, because that would require paying to send real seasoned researchers to far corners of the earth to dig for a real scoop. That busienss model is dead.

  • @punkeasy
    @punkeasy 2 місяці тому +272

    Legend has it:
    She thought she was working at ministry of truth magazine.

    • @scionofdorn9101
      @scionofdorn9101 2 місяці тому +15

      She knew she was, she was just too obvious and clumsy about it. Thus she was offered up as a sacrificial lamb for the “good of the party” to act as a smokescreen.

    • @robertthomson1587
      @robertthomson1587 2 місяці тому +2

      Well, she's an 'unperson' now.

    • @stevekillgore9272
      @stevekillgore9272 2 місяці тому

      MiniTru heard that !

    • @richd9683
      @richd9683 13 днів тому

      LOL
      She can always get a job at the Dem. Party manifesto -

    • @Bingewatchingmediacontent
      @Bingewatchingmediacontent 8 днів тому

      Surprised she didn’t publish an article about how all illness is caused by an imbalance of Humors.

  • @daveh893
    @daveh893 2 місяці тому +211

    I ended my subscription to Scientific American years ago when I started reading this kind of stuff. Thank you for exposing what the journal has become.

    • @viccruikshank2441
      @viccruikshank2441 2 місяці тому +4

      The same with National Geographic. A joke.

    • @raedwulf61
      @raedwulf61 2 місяці тому +6

      I ended my National Geographic subscription in 2006 as it went increasingly woke. Our family had had the subscription since the early 1960s.

    • @derek96720
      @derek96720 2 місяці тому

      I have the same reaction to the APA and how it has become a bastion for left-biased research and ideology

  • @1aninterpreter1
    @1aninterpreter1 2 місяці тому +55

    I was a subscriber to Scientific American until I could no longer put up with its feminist bias.

    • @ronwilliams4184
      @ronwilliams4184 2 місяці тому +4

      Or the relentless 'climate change' one-sidedness.

    • @mwrodgers8
      @mwrodgers8 11 днів тому

      ​@@ronwilliams4184How can you be so obtuse? Since Climate Change (e.g. AGW) is an established fact, there can be no "other side." Any astute scientist who hopes to get funded and published knows this.
      ...even the data knows this!

  • @abookmaker6344
    @abookmaker6344 2 місяці тому +48

    These are people are ridiculous. The barbarians came through the gates, unchallenged, years ago.

  • @Sky92651
    @Sky92651 2 місяці тому +334

    As a long term subscriber I cancelled a few years ago, as Climate Change articles became dogmatic, not scientific.

    • @tom-hy1kn
      @tom-hy1kn 2 місяці тому

      They have been dogmatic and not scientific about evolution since they were created.

    • @captsorghum
      @captsorghum 2 місяці тому +11

      I did the same 15 or 20 years ago after reading one of the then-editor's columns.

    • @SusanPearce_H
      @SusanPearce_H 2 місяці тому +5

      What took you so long?

    • @pamtnman1515
      @pamtnman1515 2 місяці тому

      The political Left is only dogmatic, never scientific

    • @saxelrod94
      @saxelrod94 2 місяці тому +4

      I think it should it be renamed as Dogma & Science and then the reader s can decide which article belongs to which of the two categories. I anticipate some lively discussions.

  • @jameslasso1690
    @jameslasso1690 2 місяці тому +154

    Similar to Mao’s cultural revolution in which history and culture were destroyed then replaced with Mao thought, today cultural woke warriors try to replace historical scientific and cultural knowledge with woke new thought. They seek to destroy the old and historical but if unable they will carry out subterfuge - if not that then cancel, if not that - ignore.

    • @raymondfrye5017
      @raymondfrye5017 2 місяці тому

      It's funny you should mention Mao. Why? Because for many years this Selective Marxist view has been used as a propaganda tool against the West and is still "virulent" in the East.

    • @harryplummer6356
      @harryplummer6356 2 місяці тому +2

      Well put James.

    • @haritadepalli959
      @haritadepalli959 2 місяці тому

      Anything communism and leftism touches will be gutted. IDK who said it - communism is the Islam of the modern age. The American devolution of communism is woke and identity politics.

    • @Aardappelz
      @Aardappelz 2 місяці тому +1

      @jameslasso1690 so many words to say so little

    • @presidentrogue5668
      @presidentrogue5668 2 місяці тому +3

      So true. Mao pushed to eradicate what he called “The 4 Olds” which were Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Customs, and Old Habits.

  • @MikZran
    @MikZran 2 місяці тому +158

    As someone who once was an avid reader of Scientific American but hasn't paid much attention to it for a decade, I find a lot of these opinion pieces quite shocking. When I was a physicist and later an engineer, I fully understood which of my statements was evidence based and appropriate to be spoken in that role, and what was essentially faith or opinion or cultural heritage and thus not to be spoken in a role as a scientist or engineer.

    • @Lucas-zz4es
      @Lucas-zz4es 2 місяці тому +5

      That person cannot be called a scientific editor. But who hires these people for these positions?

    • @jruszler
      @jruszler 2 місяці тому +1

      In rememberance of Rush Limbaugh - “Ditto!”

  • @derekturner3272
    @derekturner3272 2 місяці тому +23

    The fact that one of her first moves was to endorse Biden in 2020, the first of the kind in the magazines 175 year history.... Was the first major step towards disgrace.

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 8 днів тому

      After Trump had told you to inject bleach and ammonia for covid.

  • @gauguin007
    @gauguin007 2 місяці тому +6

    Very good exposé of what has happened to the scientific American. Back in 2014 I stopped listening to ABC Australia for the same reason; It felt like they weren’t giving me information and letting me make up my own mind but instead they had decided what I must think. How can intelligent people become so delusional?

  • @brandoncyoung
    @brandoncyoung 2 місяці тому +91

    I didnt realize it was this bad. Thanks Michael. Always great to hear from you

  • @saar2411
    @saar2411 2 місяці тому +231

    It used to be Scientific and American. It no longer is both.

    • @valvlog4665
      @valvlog4665 2 місяці тому

      Nature magazine suffers the same DEI pox. Google: nature magazine woke

    • @carmenmccauley585
      @carmenmccauley585 2 місяці тому +33

      You mean either.

    • @marktrain9498
      @marktrain9498 2 місяці тому +7

      @@carmenmccauley585 To be fair, both statements are true.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel 2 місяці тому +2

      Didn't Mike Judge make a movie about this?

    • @SpicyTexan64
      @SpicyTexan64 2 місяці тому +11

      *It is now neither.

  • @jandejong2430
    @jandejong2430 2 місяці тому +137

    Not American and certainly not Scientific for at least 2 decades.

    • @jruszler
      @jruszler 2 місяці тому +2

      I first read SA in 1970 and was awed by the knowledge it contained. Over the course of my career and raising a family, I largely lost track of it. It reappeared in my life over the past few years but I couldn’t believe how Unscientific it had become! Good god, has it been this trashy for 2 decades!?

  • @mikeanthony2697
    @mikeanthony2697 2 місяці тому +9

    I'm a scientist and I've been a subscriber for over 50 years, but I'm thinking about not renewing. There are better scientific publications out there now. Besides all the other criticisms, Scientific American has also been publishing some pretty toxic feminist articles lately. Goodby, Laura Helmuth.

    • @j3kfd9j
      @j3kfd9j 11 днів тому

      Can you recommend some alternate publications?

  • @jjs2351
    @jjs2351 2 місяці тому +5

    Thank you, Michael Shermer. Even when I occasionally do not agree with him, he is always honest, straightforward, and logical in his arguments. Scientific American needs a housecleaning.

  • @sharonmonson1510
    @sharonmonson1510 2 місяці тому +77

    This was a favourite of mine until a number of years ago when I started to notice the voyage of SA to an ideology and not science. Really sad.

  • @pelegst
    @pelegst 2 місяці тому +137

    I've been a reader for about 60 years. When I was a child, I remember being challenged by the rigorous scientific content of the articles. They were often written by the scientists themselves and even showed the math related to the subject. This is no longer the case. I was not only inspired to become a scientist by the magazine but I also learned a tremendous amount of good science over the years. Lately, most of the articles are written by journalists, have little depth, and are formulaic. There is little, if anything, to inspire or to learn anymore. Sadly, I have recently bid farewell to a lifelong friend and let my subscription lapse.

    • @heatfield4243
      @heatfield4243 2 місяці тому +16

      Indeed, that magazine was an inspiration. An engineer neighbour had all the issues from the 50s and 60s which i could read and imagine.

    • @getlost3346
      @getlost3346 2 місяці тому +9

      One can say the same about business and economics. They too have fallen to Leftist Narratives. And dont even talk about Human Resource departments in any entity. For Profit, Non Profit, Education, Corporations, Armed Forces, etc... they are about Soviet as they get.

    • @fburton8
      @fburton8 2 місяці тому +10

      My experience is similar, but I gave up on it (switching to American Scientist) around 2008 after SciAm became markedly more ‘popular’, less rigorous, using more stock graphics, etc. The ending of the Amateur Scientist column was a major blow, I felt.

    • @mikeottersole
      @mikeottersole 2 місяці тому +8

      Scientific American is no longer scientific. It was a truly great magazine.
      Woke ruins everything it touches.

    • @bobtimster62
      @bobtimster62 2 місяці тому +8

      This is one of the comments I can relate to (as opposed to all this endless discussion of "woke"). When I was in college, Scientific American articles were indeed written by the scientists who did the research. Sometimes I had to struggle a bit to understand some of the articles in say, biology or chemistry (my field is physics), but I always came away from an issue feeling I had learned something. Many years later, as a professional physicist, I co-wrote an invited article for SA in the early 2000's. I was furious when the editor changed much of the language in the piece without consulting us, in order to make it more "gee-whiz". I told the editor that I would never write anything for them again. Not long after that, the science articles were being written by science writers and editors, as opposed to the scientists themselves. I think it has now become an "airport magazine".

  • @BengalsOfRidanos
    @BengalsOfRidanos 2 місяці тому +42

    I got a subscription to Scientific American in my mid-teens around 1965. It had a considerable and positive influence on my life. However, around 1980, it seemed to be getting thinner, so I only occasionally bought it. I don't think I've read an issue in about 30 years. I am very disappointed to see that it is now total garbage.

    • @markuswx1322
      @markuswx1322 2 місяці тому +3

      Same here; I subscribed ‘71 to ‘81 and proudly archived the issues under gold-stamped buckram bindings. By ‘81 the issues thinned out and the Science And The Citizen columns had migrated leftward. Martin Gardner’s column vanished. What has happened since though is appalling. No science-minded person should come within a mile of such content. What a shame.

  • @angryoldcanadian3905
    @angryoldcanadian3905 2 місяці тому +8

    I noticed a huge shift in the articles at SA around 2016. It took me until 2020 to stop buying the magazine. It stopped being scientific years ago

  • @RadwynAlthor
    @RadwynAlthor 2 місяці тому +4

    My first ban in old Twitter was for calling out Scientific American as Woke American.

  • @tommyrq180
    @tommyrq180 2 місяці тому +68

    Never thought I’d see Lysenkoism happen in America but that was only my ignorance. As it turns out, science is quite easily co-opted by political and ideological stupidity and the only difference between Scientific American and all the others is that they aren’t sending those who disagree to actual forced labor camps in Siberia…so we have that going for us, which is nice…

  • @skulptor
    @skulptor 2 місяці тому +45

    National Geographic and New Scientist also sank in the woke mire.

    • @Pteromandias
      @Pteromandias 2 місяці тому +1

      I always thought New Scientist was always kind of in the woke camp, maybe even a little bit Marxist. And this was well before the days when SA went woke.

    • @skulptor
      @skulptor 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes already c.2000 I felt.

    • @missano3856
      @missano3856 25 днів тому +1

      @skulptor And from a totally different place so did Yoga Journal.

  • @michaelterrazas1325
    @michaelterrazas1325 2 місяці тому +127

    I was a Scientific American subscriber for 50 years. Starting in 8th grade in 1966. I saw lots of changes in staff and editorial style. For 50 years, I felt like the editors respected my ability to use my brain to analyze the facts presented, and come to logical conclusions. Then 2016 occurred. Neither of the major parties bothered to put forth someone I could vote for. I voted for another party for President. Unfortunately, Scientific American decided to forego the apolitical stance that the magazine had always adhered to. And then they went even further, trying to tell their readership about one candidate's unscientific stances. I can read politics from publications that know a lot more about the nuances of politics. That is not why I read Scientific American. So I cancelled my subscription. When they chose to take sides on both subsequent elections, I knew that my decision was correct. The organization deserves to die on the vine. That no one stopped this nonsense in 2016, nor questioned the other positions being taken since then is more than enough evidence that the institution is on life support that needs to be unplugged.

    • @coryc9040
      @coryc9040 2 місяці тому +4

      Context matters here. What were the unscientific stances? I know it didn't happen but if an presidential candidate promoted phlogiston theory or phrenology and actively campaigned on these topics, it would be laughable to suggest a scientific magazine couldn't write articles on it because it's political. Dawkins is mentioned in this video, and I respect him, but he's said some pretty hardcore statements in favor of abortion that would likely deplatform him from a similar position. And have him denounces from people on the right. Musing on why mothers should abort fetuses with down syndrome is getting eerily close to eugenics.

    • @michaelterrazas1325
      @michaelterrazas1325 2 місяці тому +5

      @@coryc9040 My point is that it is okay to report stances that are unscientific, and then respect my intelligence enough to let me decide the logical course of action. The editorials became more patronizing and condescending in tone as time went on. It turns out that there are much better science journals available that don't have an editorial board that views their subscribers as idiots. I have transitioned to those sources for my information.

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 2 місяці тому +1

      Pretty woke reaction on your part

    • @michaelterrazas1325
      @michaelterrazas1325 2 місяці тому +4

      @@cyniqueetsérieux I fail to see what is woke about not wanting to be preached to by a source that I am going to information from. My decision was already set that neither candidate was my choice in both '16 and '20. But if the editors of that rag were more interested in supporting and agenda than in doing what I paid them for, I wasn't going to waste my money on them. Their subsequent descent into anti-science positions has validated my assessment.

    • @christianbolt5761
      @christianbolt5761 2 місяці тому +4

      Wow. I was a 25 year subscriber starting in the 80s. I find the older the issue the better. I canceled because the became less rigorous over time. I’m guessing to appeal to a larger audience

  • @WWeronko
    @WWeronko 2 місяці тому +9

    I was a subscriber of Scientific American for many years. I used to give out subscriptions as Christmas presents. As a career military officer I always felt the SA military themed articles were laughably left-wing. Besides that however, the publication was popularized and cheaper version of Science and Nature magazines. In the past couple of decades the magazine started being seeded with additional leftist dribble masquerading as science. It was sad after receiving much joy reading my monthly issues that I was forced to cancel my subscription. I do hope that the future holds a correction of this unfortunate trend.

  • @christianbolt5761
    @christianbolt5761 2 місяці тому +10

    When a magazine puts out such nonsense it discredits all it puts out. Was a 20+ year subscriber starting in the 80s

  • @Hin_Håle
    @Hin_Håle 2 місяці тому +107

    How wonderful it is to get to listen to a truly rational voice for a moment. Thanks Michael!

    • @c.davidgraves4848
      @c.davidgraves4848 2 місяці тому +2

      It is good to know there are still some honest great thinkers who are not afraid to call out the OEI take over.

  • @eecarolinee
    @eecarolinee 2 місяці тому +54

    I cancelled my SciAm subscription ... too expensive plus they have been letting politics overrule science for a while.
    I have been a more-or-less constant subscriber since the mid-1960s when I was a kid entering science fairs.
    Could not believe how much obvious political slant there was in recent years..... politics over science in every issue.

  • @AndyWearsPants
    @AndyWearsPants 2 місяці тому +58

    Great job, Quillette! Having the author read his own piece is a fantastic way to present articles!

  • @tommarymarking1579
    @tommarymarking1579 2 місяці тому +15

    I stopped reading SA in the early 2000's when they labeled anyone who questioned the faulty climate models as "deniers". They became propagandists at that point and I lost interest in their magazine. As an Ecologists and Scientist by profession, I gave up on them, and it has apparenetly gotten much worse.

  • @NativeDaughterDialogues
    @NativeDaughterDialogues 2 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for standing up to the bullies and the mob.

  • @davereesor4116
    @davereesor4116 2 місяці тому +204

    I canceled the magazine 10 years ago because of its incessant promotion of the climate alarmism industry.

    • @brendancooney9401
      @brendancooney9401 2 місяці тому

      🤣🤣 just another thick #snowflake complaining about scientific facts. How quaint!

    • @xyzct
      @xyzct 2 місяці тому +14

      Bingo.
      Same with National Geographic.

    • @DarkMatter2525
      @DarkMatter2525 2 місяці тому +7

      @@xyzct inconvenient scientific facts are not for certain ideologies.

    • @g_br
      @g_br 2 місяці тому +8

      @@DarkMatter2525 The climate has always changed.
      The human being does not influence it.

    • @davidwatkins8016
      @davidwatkins8016 2 місяці тому

      The problem wasn’t their take climate science. It was nonsensical sociology and gender studies opinion pieces being raised to the status of science.

  • @rpmgrlca
    @rpmgrlca 2 місяці тому +40

    They don't realise the lost trust will not come back.

  • @uberdonkey9721
    @uberdonkey9721 2 місяці тому +22

    Yup I couldn't believe it when I started reading some of the political articles in scientific American. As a scientist I was disgusted. Never read it again

  • @RandallMeals
    @RandallMeals 2 місяці тому +61

    Maybe Musk, Thiel, and Andreessen should get together and buy Scientific American to put Scientific back into American again.

    • @theoldman2821
      @theoldman2821 2 місяці тому +16

      Satire?

    • @marichristian
      @marichristian 2 місяці тому +4

      @@theoldman2821 Yes! I had to read that comment twice. Beyond belief.

    • @globalhikingcr
      @globalhikingcr 2 місяці тому +4

      Dear god … You have been brainwashed by authoritarianism 😂

    • @edwardspencer3906
      @edwardspencer3906 2 місяці тому +3

      Also, der furer 😮

    • @IThinkICare
      @IThinkICare 2 місяці тому

      If you science will guide the decisions in the next 4 years, you can't tell f act from f ucked.

  • @CCoppock
    @CCoppock 2 місяці тому +4

    I had to leave Scientific American after they moved into politics a few years back. A sad situation to see science and science funding chasing politics.

  • @malvoliosf
    @malvoliosf 2 місяці тому +52

    I am guessing Laura Helmuth has no spouse and no children, so the “spend more time with her family” would be too transparently false.

    • @mark91345
      @mark91345 2 місяці тому +20

      Maybe she has cats.

    • @tristan7216
      @tristan7216 2 місяці тому +5

      😸😸😸😸😸😸😸

    • @natnat8733
      @natnat8733 2 місяці тому +3

      Or dogs?

    • @glynnec2008
      @glynnec2008 2 місяці тому

      @@mark91345 Are you suggesting that she might be a childless cat-lady?

    • @MBoldman50
      @MBoldman50 2 місяці тому +1

      Lesbian.

  • @shanevenner9716
    @shanevenner9716 2 місяці тому +28

    Neo marxsist religious bias affects so many levels of scientific investigation and publication

  • @9ja9ite
    @9ja9ite 2 місяці тому +27

    Great essay Michael. You’re one of the few sane voices of rational thought still willing to put your neck on the line and simple state the truth. It’s a shame to see these once prestigious magazines I grew up with and that inspired me to the sciences and to dream of better future fall victim to ideology and fascistic tendencies.
    Please keep up the fight for those of us who do not have the same platform and reach as you do.

  • @babarishka
    @babarishka 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for your honesty, integrity and courage in the face of hyper-emotional, delusional, divisive, virtue-seeking children in adult bodies who haven't a clue about freedom of speech or freedom in general, not to mention science. What the scientific community did to James Watson was yet another example of the hypocrisy and cowardice so common among today's academics.

  • @sparkleypegs8350
    @sparkleypegs8350 2 місяці тому +7

    Whenever I see the word "equity" my hackles go up. Massive red flag.

  • @adamcrookedsmile
    @adamcrookedsmile 2 місяці тому +45

    the woke have ruined both SciAm and IEEE publications. The trust is gone.

    • @douglasstrother6584
      @douglasstrother6584 2 місяці тому +5

      And the American Physical Society

    • @Nicolaus-ih3fy
      @Nicolaus-ih3fy 2 місяці тому +7

      The woke cancer took over The Institute for Advanced Study, American Mathematical Society, American Academy of Sciences, every major award that once was a sign of distinction today became meaningless.

    • @douglasstrother6584
      @douglasstrother6584 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Nicolaus-ih3fy Indeed. They are all FUBAR now.

    • @j3kfd9j
      @j3kfd9j 11 днів тому

      What happened to IEEE?

    • @rdred8693
      @rdred8693 11 днів тому

      @@Nicolaus-ih3fy You can thank the Frankfort School for this mess

  • @AdamIndikt
    @AdamIndikt 2 місяці тому +33

    When institution like scientific American publishes this garbage, it remains in the archives forever. Its reputation can thus never recover. A new publication is required.

    • @afterthesmash
      @afterthesmash 2 місяці тому

      Clearly subtraction was your favourite subject.

    • @drake000666
      @drake000666 2 місяці тому

      Will not work, the industry is 99% run by feminist, who push all of this because it feels right to them.

  • @revolutionaryhamburger
    @revolutionaryhamburger 2 місяці тому +98

    DEI science is to science what a lightning bug is to lightning.

    • @v2ike6udik
      @v2ike6udik 2 місяці тому +1

      while ppl were worried about wokamala, they installed trump and other znists

    • @moreyladini7708
      @moreyladini7708 2 місяці тому

      Lederhosen much?

    • @l.w.paradis2108
      @l.w.paradis2108 2 місяці тому +1

      Entirely true -- and this guy provides no corrective. He just wants different dogma. And he is cashing in on denouncing DEI in the meantime, of course. Get that buck.
      Oops, he mispronounced "pablum." 😂

    • @l.w.paradis2108
      @l.w.paradis2108 2 місяці тому

      ​@v2ike6udik Funny how that is, huh?

    • @stevetice
      @stevetice 2 місяці тому +1

      @@l.w.paradis2108 Pabulum is the British form of the word

  • @AussieBob999
    @AussieBob999 2 місяці тому +5

    The truth about something is far more important than someone's feelings about that thing. More and more people are saying this loudly and clearly - because our patience and tolerance has allowed those with feelings about things (such as gender) to dominate the debate. No more - Our patience is finished and our tolerance is over.

  • @vadim64841
    @vadim64841 2 місяці тому +3

    Hearing that from Michael Shermer, the scientist, is truly heartwarming. Woke insanity is being pushed back. The tide is turning.

  • @Carvin0
    @Carvin0 2 місяці тому +84

    The rot at SA started with John Rennie (editor) in the early 2000's when he trashed Bjorn Lomborg's book, "Skeptical Environmentalist". Rennie was the first at SA of a breed of "science writers" who don't actually "do" science, but have the intellectual arrogance to "interpret" science for the scientifically benighted. Before Rennie, most articles were written by real scientists who actually did the "science", and used SA to explain their work to the wider public. I still treasure my collection of SA from '71 to 2000 or so. But Rennie ended SA for me, and it has been worthless ever since. The latest kerfuffle is just a continuation of more than 20-years of SA circling the drain.

    • @captsorghum
      @captsorghum 2 місяці тому +5

      I couldn't remember that editor's name until reminded just now, but he was the reason I cancelled as well.

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 2 місяці тому +1

      Being a "skeptic" is an industry. However without good arguments, good evidence , good experiments, good observations the skeptic is simply a salesman. You probably like "Chariot of the gods" and hate "Future Shock"

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 2 місяці тому

      @@captsorghum cut thru your alzeimers, how could you forgetJohn Rennie if he vexed you so much and you cancel cultured him

    • @captsorghum
      @captsorghum 2 місяці тому +3

      @@cyniqueetsérieux It was a long time ago and not worth remembering. I just didn't feel like paying for that nonsense at the time, there was plenty of it on TV. Sorry if you felt slighted, Mr. Rennie.

    • @cyniqueetsérieux
      @cyniqueetsérieux 2 місяці тому

      @@captsorghum you"ll get over it.

  • @ricshumack9134
    @ricshumack9134 2 місяці тому +26

    Ideology is an effective antidote to intellect

  • @anniewilliams4730
    @anniewilliams4730 2 місяці тому +18

    Pure, rational, articulate sanity. A breath of oxygen amidst the poison gas of wokery.

  • @Elseveno
    @Elseveno 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you. The last time I saw a copy I swore I was reading Psychology Today. It was heartbreaking. This strange behavior of my feelings are better than facts, is really a head scratcher. Whatever the reason old fashioned science is out the window.

  • @griffgruff1
    @griffgruff1 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for an excellent expose of Scientific American.

  • @ianwynne764
    @ianwynne764 2 місяці тому +27

    Hello Quillette: Thank you very much for this. A couple of weeks ago I was explaining "identity politics" to a friend and I explained it as an inversion of Dr King's teachings. Have a really lovely day.

  • @heatfield4243
    @heatfield4243 2 місяці тому +82

    What has happened to SciAm has happened to the government of Canada. Good grief we need an election.

    • @SpencerDonahue
      @SpencerDonahue 2 місяці тому +1

      Tell the doctor where Mr. Trudeau hurt you, you seem very fragile LOL

    • @LloydChristmas-vx2wh
      @LloydChristmas-vx2wh 2 місяці тому

      @@SpencerDonahue Thanks for the irony, you wokistani.

    • @moreyladini7708
      @moreyladini7708 2 місяці тому +3

      Yes, it all started in early 1971, when Margaret “vacationed in 4 Caribbean Islands” of which only 3 were publicly disclosed…

    • @PrometheanRising
      @PrometheanRising 2 місяці тому

      Do you think that Pierre will set things right?

    • @awuma
      @awuma 2 місяці тому +1

      @@moreyladini7708 Hmmm... I remember Christmas Day, 1971 rather well. ;-)

  • @DaveStephensEditor
    @DaveStephensEditor 2 місяці тому +29

    Regarding the quote from Pinker’s book, H.L. Mencken put it like this: “It is difficult to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place.”

    • @coryc9040
      @coryc9040 2 місяці тому

      Ah yes Pinker, the self important hack that wanted to be best buds with Jeffrey Epstein.

    • @kurttate9446
      @kurttate9446 2 місяці тому +1

      Excellant quote!😉

  • @JW-es7yo
    @JW-es7yo 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for doing a great service by highlighting the monumental decline in scientific thought after SA went woke. Sadly, the same is true for ALL such businesses, institutions, and organizations, yet they lack a former insider like yourself to point it out.

  • @audionmusic2787
    @audionmusic2787 2 місяці тому +5

    Two possible causes of disparity. Either unfairness exists in the system, or the individuals within the system are unequal in capability. No honesty can exist unless we are allowed to discuss the second cause. It has NOT been proven that humans are equally capable. The belief in equality is a political doctrine.

  • @benjaminc.6778
    @benjaminc.6778 2 місяці тому +15

    Thank you for being a sane voice. I have no idea how so many institutions have been ideologically captured but it’s deeply troubling. It’s one thing to hold progressive opinions, it’s another thing to shut down discourse as “hate” and blatantly deny objective facts to push your narrative.

  • @raymondswenson1268
    @raymondswenson1268 2 місяці тому +56

    Mr Shermer: Sadly, the needle had already started moving away from objective science when SA refused to publish any criticisms of the orthodox doctrine of Global Warming.

    • @steffenjensen422
      @steffenjensen422 2 місяці тому +2

      Which part exactly do you think is wrong about the science of global warming?
      It seems at this point it's even getting difficult seperating the science from the political activism, but I'd hold that the science is sound, while the activism sometimes run wild with it and reaches some bs conclusions.

    • @jeffwalther2023
      @jeffwalther2023 2 місяці тому

      @@steffenjensen422 SciAm published Mark Z. Jacobson's drivel claiming that an industrial civilization can be run on wind and solar power, which is a load of crap. That may not be climate science, but climate science is being used to drive this swindle which is driving energy costs up, catastrophically destroying electrical grid reliability and creating vast profits for the political cronies collecting the subsidies.
      Jacobson's BS was soundly criticized by a group of authors from the NAS. Jacobson's response was not another article, but to sue the folks who criticized him.

    • @WeighedWilson
      @WeighedWilson Місяць тому

      A gentle reminder that we are currently in an ice age.

  • @12qwe349
    @12qwe349 2 місяці тому +23

    When SA adopts a standard of "do the data feel right?" you know science is doomed

  • @kurd55
    @kurd55 2 місяці тому +3

    Yep! I thought I was going “crazy” for thinking Scientific American was trending more and more “woke” for the past number of years.

  • @MarkCastle
    @MarkCastle 2 місяці тому +2

    I stopped buying New Scientist after they stumbled left then stayed there too

  • @maxroberts7393
    @maxroberts7393 2 місяці тому +26

    Helmuth is not the 1st to drive a quality magazine into the ground. She should have edited a political magazine.

    • @orka16605
      @orka16605 2 місяці тому +6

      Maybe she could be a screenwriter for Disney Star Wars.

    • @maxroberts7393
      @maxroberts7393 2 місяці тому

      Something in the Hippiesphere would be appropriate. That is where kids who refuse to eat their broccoli should go as adults.

    • @allisshop8092
      @allisshop8092 2 місяці тому +10

      She did edit a political magazine. Scientific American.

    • @maxroberts7393
      @maxroberts7393 2 місяці тому

      Not before her deft hand ruined its scientifically unbiased reporting.

    • @mikeottersole
      @mikeottersole 2 місяці тому

      Why do we tolerate this nonsense? How many of our cherished institutions will we allow to be corrupted by fools?

  • @caspargroenen4363
    @caspargroenen4363 2 місяці тому +22

    Woke is Evil.

  • @roarkdoubt1365
    @roarkdoubt1365 2 місяці тому +11

    I quit reading S.A. long ago. An editorial in S.A. blasted a book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist" by Bjorn Lomborg and Bjorn himself, and then refused to allow Bjorn to respond. I read the book. Bjorn was right; S.A. was wrong, both on the editorial, and certainly on their omissive censorship of an author. At that point I realized that I was being fed bias rather than Science. I realized that, in S.A., politics and personalities were being pushed over the process of scientific discussion. Not liking censorship, bias or their superior, but wrong, attitude, S.A. is dead to me. Science is not now, nor never will be, settled. Science is a process. It is not the "truth", it is the effort of discerning the truth.

    • @WorthWatchingStudios
      @WorthWatchingStudios 2 місяці тому +4

      Same. They took the approach that their job was to destroy Lomborg (we didn’t have canceling yet), not engage with and debate his actual ideas.
      At that point I realized I couldn’t trust anything they published.

  • @timw7946
    @timw7946 2 місяці тому +5

    I inherited a subscription from my father, all tolled we had a 60 year subscription. I canceled it in the late 1990s because it fell off the wagon into the al Gore vat of hysteria. I won't go back.

  • @tnndll4294
    @tnndll4294 Місяць тому +2

    Gosh! Michael Shermer is not a right-winger at all. If he's calling this out, then there is a problem.

  • @lindsayheyes925
    @lindsayheyes925 2 місяці тому +12

    I was given a sub to New Scientist for a year, but it soon became obvious that some of its writers had been DEI hires and the publication had been ideologically captured. This, undermined my faith in its scientific credibility, and although they kept coming to my door, I stopped reading them because of the effort needed to fact-check the articles. This was a magazine that I had, since 1970, keenly sought for decades - travelling weekly into town to buy it from the newsagents. The same with Scientific American. These two magazines kindled my interest in science, but now there is better journalism on YT, frankly.

    • @j3kfd9j
      @j3kfd9j 11 днів тому

      Can you recommend some better outlets for science coverage?

  • @LowellBoggs
    @LowellBoggs 2 місяці тому +17

    After you left Sci Am, I canceled my subscription and explained that I know longer trusted them to provide good scientific reporting. A year later, I got a survey and an attempt to resurrect my subscription. I responded with the same comments, and told them to stop bothering me.

  • @anniewilliams4730
    @anniewilliams4730 2 місяці тому +12

    I hope all the devastated staff were offered milky coffee and colouring books to console them for her departure.

  • @Oxnaf
    @Oxnaf 2 місяці тому +16

    This is the history of science in a nutshell. "Science" does not exist beyond what people are willing to accept on a personal or ideological level. This is wrong, but I see no sign of it changing. A litmus test I use is "Can I accept a truthful statment regardless of who makes it, or do I dismiss it based on whether I like someone or not?"

    • @BusinessandFinance-ym5bk
      @BusinessandFinance-ym5bk 2 місяці тому

      the other litmus test is "Can a person comfortably change his/her position upon a debate". those who can't are ideologues.

    • @paulreid2223
      @paulreid2223 Місяць тому

      Good ol' identity politics ..

  • @ChimneyJuice
    @ChimneyJuice 2 місяці тому +4

    Everything woke turns to shit! - 45

    • @MikeHammer1
      @MikeHammer1 Місяць тому +1

      My version: Everything that is woke IS shit.

  • @613harbinger316
    @613harbinger316 2 місяці тому +9

    This reminds me of something a friend of mine once said. He was a manager of a bookstore and apparently there's some kind of law that says if you are contacted by another store regarding the performance of a former employee, you cannot offer or confirm criticism of said employee - only work history. I'm not sure of the exact details regarding this law, but that was the gist of it (and also this is California). In order to get around it, managers who called him, who obviously knew about the law, would ask questions where my friend's silence or a 'no comment' would basically be affirmation of what was being asked.

  • @kevincason5309
    @kevincason5309 2 місяці тому +13

    this was so well done. thatnk you quillete and michael.

  • @sbcap3809
    @sbcap3809 2 місяці тому +10

    I gave up on scientific American basically back in 1995. Some of the articles are reviewed with other comparable authors denied the statement that the American was making and general their content was more of a storytelling than a scientific paper. I had tried the magazine for a long time, and it took quite a step which I also enclosed my reasons why I departed from them I would no longer recommend it to anyone.

  • @robtrigg49
    @robtrigg49 2 місяці тому +2

    Great podcast - I was an avid reader and purchaser of both SciAm and also New Scientist (I'm in UK) but some years ago the 'Woke' articles started appearing and eventually I only bought issues that had a particular story that I was interested in.Hopefully as was said maybe the pendulum is swinging back.

  • @kokopelli314
    @kokopelli314 2 місяці тому +5

    "If you silence me, then why shouldn't I silence you?"

  • @jamesraymond1158
    @jamesraymond1158 2 місяці тому +15

    Excellent summary of a fallen magazine. I was a loyal reader throughout the 70s and 80s, but then started to realize that in every article that touched on politics, the authors ALWAYS took the left-wing position. This was proof of editorial bias and I ended my subscription. Another source of outrage were editorials by editor John Rennie (1994-2009), who always had some left-wing point to make. He even told top universities to not accept any students from the state of Kansas because of the Kansas board of education's views on creation. I was disgusted to see how the left had destroyed my favorite magazine. Martin Gardener is probably rolling over in his grave,

    •  2 місяці тому +2

      I had the same experience.

  • @dkblack1289
    @dkblack1289 2 місяці тому +6

    I encountered SA in my high school exactly 50 years ago, and I was enamoured of it. Now going through many comments, I am tempted to point out that the decline of SA, like so many other organs of the American Empire, points to the decline of the empire. Its like old age where multiple body organs deteriorate; you know its happening but no one can stop it.

  • @Suzanne291
    @Suzanne291 2 місяці тому +3

    These articles are shocking for a once credible magazine.

  • @johnhoefert5185
    @johnhoefert5185 2 місяці тому +5

    I once subscribed to Scientific American 30 years ago, hoping to get insightful knowledge about SCIENCE. I cancelled my subscription because the magazine was too busy being political. And I mean clearly political. Note that this was 30 years ago. It was extremely disappointing. I want journalists to give facts that I can use to be a better informed, more rational person. I don't mind changing my views based on facts. I do mind people trying to "gaslight" me.

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 2 місяці тому +9

    To be fair, what she did isn't new or unprecedented. Ideology has been spread like wildfire through our institutions and our periodicals.

  • @russpaxman3660
    @russpaxman3660 2 місяці тому +10

    I thoroughly enjoyed this takedown of un scientific mumbo jumbo by a bunch of ideologists disingenuously cloaking themselves as part of the scientific community.
    How the mighty have fallen, when Scientific American allows ideologues to represent them.

  • @lonzo61
    @lonzo61 2 місяці тому +7

    Pinker is a brilliant guy. And Shermer is a warrior fighting for what is factually true--not what is "personally" true. Thanks, Michael Shermer, for your all your work. I have been following your commentary for years.

  • @robertstan2349
    @robertstan2349 2 місяці тому +4

    we should not cancel people for their political views, not even for 'woke' views. we should however not have people injecting ideology into science or scientific publications; that is unacceptable.

  • @RandyLunn
    @RandyLunn 2 місяці тому +6

    I stopped reading Scientific American and let my subscription lapse over a year ago. What a terrible end to a great magazine.

  • @chriskenney4377
    @chriskenney4377 2 місяці тому +9

    Mr. Shermer: Brilliant! Thanks for the insightful thought. When I was in school (don’t ask when) Scientific American was considered on par with the Bible. How ironic - it nows thinks it is the bible.

  • @Frisbieinstein
    @Frisbieinstein 2 місяці тому +11

    "Believe as do I or I'll call you bad names."

    • @sofly7634
      @sofly7634 Місяць тому

      Unscientific

    • @Frisbieinstein
      @Frisbieinstein Місяць тому

      @@sofly7634 "Believe as do I or I'll call you unscientific."

  • @iowawizkid1
    @iowawizkid1 2 місяці тому +15

    They performed their own science. The science of control and contempt. They measured how far they could go. They made it a lot further than i thought they would!

  • @pulmo1
    @pulmo1 2 місяці тому +2

    It was so sad to see such a magazine deteriorate into rubbish.

  • @gmck91204
    @gmck91204 2 місяці тому +2

    Naturally, The NY Times refused to allow commenting on their article on this story.

  • @timnordin6230
    @timnordin6230 2 місяці тому +31

    The reason I stopped reading the magazine and the reason science itself is dying.

    • @pshehan1
      @pshehan1 2 місяці тому +1

      The 'hard' sciences, those in STEM, are not dying, and the reason the magazine failed is that it began ignoring science and scientists and catered for activists.

    • @STEVEO143ASW
      @STEVEO143ASW 2 місяці тому

      science is dying ? really? i missed that.