I've had a girl want to see my red line on the 1st date. I'm no stuck-up but that's a tad promiscuous. My now wife respected my boundaries, and I showed her my graphs when I felt ready.
I took your advice to stop doing what everyone else is doing. Today at the card room all the regs were getting massages. When it was my term I thought I’d do things a little different. Apparently requesting a prostate massage gets you kicked out of card rooms these days. Tried to be different.
I used Teletext a lot as a teenager. We even had a remote control with a Teletext section. Like, a dozen or so buttons for using and navigating through Teletext. Good times.
Teletext is to X, like fax is to email. My mind was blown the first time I saw a TV with Teletext. The best part was when you got to the page you wanted and were half way through reading it and then it went on to the next page /26. And you had to wait like 5 minutes for it to come back around.
Assuming you play an MDA based max exploit strategy (the pool is big and has near 0 clairvoyance) my guess is that GG is more profitable. It’s unclear though because it’s hard to tell exactly what the net rake is due to PVI changing. Your guess is probably as qualified as mine. But I doubt stars is a good option for maximizing wr.
Old enough to know about teletext here. I use the flop overbet sometimes OOP in multiway pots, say UTG vs CO & BU or BB vs HJ & BU. In a very polarized way, either immortal nuts or a strong hand that needs protection (a set on two tone board) or very backdoor-ish stuff that even has bad reverse implied odds ie undercards with unlikely straights or flushes. Thing is at low or mid stakes you don’t get pushed off your hand often enough, so either you generate more EV with strong value or buy yourself some opportunities with lower hopeless stuff. I tend to go more linear against rec players, especially lower than 100BB volatile type players however.
I haven't watched the video yet but I was doing work with piosolver on a 25 flop subset and came across the double pot flop optimal c-bet strategy on certain boards I found it pretty shocking at the time honestly. I'm not going to act like I've incorporated it into my regular game for worry of doing it on a few too many similar looking (to me) flops.
The thing that does me with overbet flop strategies, is people play REALLY exploitably on defense. Alot of solver barrel offs are give ups vs pool due to people's ranges being more constricted/tight on defense. More so than vs 33% pot /75% pot, split-bet flop cb strategies which I just find easier and consistent to execute. I sometimes fiddle and experiment with flop overbets when have chip stack advantage in good positions vs wide ranges with better implied fold odds. Or super deep. Spots where the exploitability becomes a bit clearer to read given the dynamics.
Teletext wasn't that bad compared to the alternatives. True, you had to wait a minute until the text you wanted was displayed but the alternative was waiting for hours until a news show on the TV was on. Which started sending only after 18.00 o'clock. Or paying for a newspaper subscription with the news and weather forecast of yesterday. If you wanted to know how the football games went listening to radio or watching teletext was the only way to get the news while they happened.
Nice video. Last couple of months also playing a somewhat max exploited strat where I betting small most streets with bluffs and large-huge with nuttie hands. Very interessing of poker: Is that only fishes and more trained poker players are playing like this and the intermediate player playing a more of some sort of try to match GTO style. I am playing in a huge 50nl regular table pool so I havent find any prove that the multitabling villains I face more often are knowing what I do. Only on days I running really bad I have the feeling I am too transparent and than I really need to say to myself I seeing ghost. My favorite line: Bet very small flop with bluffs (1.5bb), overbet turn (10.5 bb) (also on board that are paired/straight/flush possibilities) and give up river
anyone with half a brain notes this after a few showdowns and exploits the shit out of you. btw if fish are doing something that youre also doing thats probably a bad sign
However, by overbetting the flop you gain a lot more EV with your nutted hands. If you like to triple barrel bluff, then the overbet OTF is your take as well: villains gonna overfold to all sizes, but overfolding to a big size loses more EV than overfolding to a smaller size (assuming the same % of overfold)
this is very reminiscent of the huge x/r strat Marc Goon @ hungry horse poker was talking about. Essentially, x/r to 6x-10x when OOP facing small range bets if your hand has even a dream of backdoor equity. V is supposed to fold 2 pair almost pure and start folding out sets at some frequency, but especially live people will defend with top pair etc. making larger mistakes than they would otherwise.
Regarding where to put in volume: My vote is on GG. Rake is high I know, but pools are big and with many recs so plenty of chances to play and show exploits we all like to se. 😊
Generally, with flop overbets... in the spot you showed, q96ss... you'll likely get overdefense, because people don't realise they need to be folded second and third pairs right away, and even top pairs. However, and this is what makes the play good vs those opponents... the barrels, they'll arrive on turns and rivers so wide, your fold equity will be through the roof edit: you said this later in the video
Overbettng the flop vs a BB calling range is delicious on any board with only a single card over a 9 on the board. 60% of the time it works every time!
21:52 you say that 66 might be indifferent to that size, depending on the suits. I haven't ran it, but I don't believe that. My gut says that calling 66 vs that bet size would be a blunder.
20 January 1992, and i for sure remember Teletext, and how i used it to look if my sport bets were doing well and what is happening at the soccer games, Boomer 😢
Holy pete 20:17 i think you watched my video HA! Anyways i love this! You accidentally overbet and hit us with the most eye opening video ever. Thanks pete! Edit: do the challenge on stars! The rake is so much more friendly even after the changes. I find the pool isn’t tougher whatsoever and actually easier. I’m geofenced in Ontario though, so it’s just shit regs and donks. I also like being able to actually see my graph trend up and not stay flat while watching my rakeback line grow lol. You’ve also turned my red line right around, and it’s printing!
well, i think you missed the most important thing on this video, wich is showing a player pool analysis and how much they fold/call/raise against this sizing on this kind of board, you just said "people will have a lower fold % compared to GTO, but, you didnt show any data as proof, this could be just your perception .
also, i only play reg tables where you can find peoples results, i dont play rush n cash, but i would think its very similar, but, on GG, there is basically not a single reg winning at a long term result with good sample with a strategy where his red line is up, only a few bots have those red lines up, but real people (who cant calculate insane math during play like a bot), there are none with good results and red line up, so, i think u should have that in mind and dont focus that much on red line.
Ha! I have the best story for this video.... I'm not even going to talk strategy, or what I was thinking, judge for yourselves lol.... just fyi, I've played my whole life, online since its inception... but, about 3 months ago now, I was playing in my first ever Sunday Million on ps. It was 4th or 5th hand, I was in BB with 33. mp raises standard 3 or 4 blinds, I think 380, or 520 whatever, button calls, I call. Flop comes KK3... I think about 2.5 secs, and I slam 49K+ allin, lmao, raiser calls, button folds of course, he turns over AK - I get my first bounty, hahaha sucka... and it's really dry the rest of the way, but I limp into the money, tx to that hand:)
Mikhail Tal was a Soviet - Latvian chess player. Only reason for word Soviet is because we were occupied by those monsters. So please xorrect your animation and next time please double check facts. Thank you!
Top video! Regards PS vs GG, I'd say that GG doesn't like pro or even semi-pro players, you're a pro, they don't like you, if I have a Bar close to home and they don't like me, I prefer to go to the other one that they like my presence, send the fuck GG network to the hell until they dye and the pool from there will find another site to play, as it always happens.
Always true if we bet with Khigh - its a bluff! In general thouhh If thats true for our value hands as well then villain is massively overfolding and were printing by bluffing every hand.
I personally don't show my red/blue line until at least the second date
I've had a girl want to see my red line on the 1st date. I'm no stuck-up but that's a tad promiscuous. My now wife respected my boundaries, and I showed her my graphs when I felt ready.
I took your advice to stop doing what everyone else is doing. Today at the card room all the regs were getting massages. When it was my term I thought I’d do things a little different. Apparently requesting a prostate massage gets you kicked out of card rooms these days. Tried to be different.
Just to let you know, GTO WIzard does allow you to create a single bet size strategy that doesn't mix a bazillion sizes.
I used Teletext a lot as a teenager. We even had a remote control with a Teletext section. Like, a dozen or so buttons for using and navigating through Teletext. Good times.
Teletext is to X, like fax is to email. My mind was blown the first time I saw a TV with Teletext. The best part was when you got to the page you wanted and were half way through reading it and then it went on to the next page /26. And you had to wait like 5 minutes for it to come back around.
Assuming you play an MDA based max exploit strategy (the pool is big and has near 0 clairvoyance) my guess is that GG is more profitable. It’s unclear though because it’s hard to tell exactly what the net rake is due to PVI changing.
Your guess is probably as qualified as mine. But I doubt stars is a good option for maximizing wr.
Hi, again a great content as always. At 20:00, what is the sizing that BB should lead turn with the Ace of spade ? A very polarized bet ?
Tal was badass. His book on his 1960 match vs Botvinnik is one of the best chess books ever.
Old enough to know about teletext here.
I use the flop overbet sometimes OOP in multiway pots, say UTG vs CO & BU or BB vs HJ & BU. In a very polarized way, either immortal nuts or a strong hand that needs protection (a set on two tone board) or very backdoor-ish stuff that even has bad reverse implied odds ie undercards with unlikely straights or flushes.
Thing is at low or mid stakes you don’t get pushed off your hand often enough, so either you generate more EV with strong value or buy yourself some opportunities with lower hopeless stuff.
I tend to go more linear against rec players, especially lower than 100BB volatile type players however.
I haven't watched the video yet but I was doing work with piosolver on a 25 flop subset and came across the double pot flop optimal c-bet strategy on certain boards I found it pretty shocking at the time honestly. I'm not going to act like I've incorporated it into my regular game for worry of doing it on a few too many similar looking (to me) flops.
The thing that does me with overbet flop strategies, is people play REALLY exploitably on defense. Alot of solver barrel offs are give ups vs pool due to people's ranges being more constricted/tight on defense. More so than vs 33% pot /75% pot, split-bet flop cb strategies which I just find easier and consistent to execute.
I sometimes fiddle and experiment with flop overbets when have chip stack advantage in good positions vs wide ranges with better implied fold odds. Or super deep. Spots where the exploitability becomes a bit clearer to read given the dynamics.
Teletext wasn't that bad compared to the alternatives. True, you had to wait a minute until the text you wanted was displayed but the alternative was waiting for hours until a news show on the TV was on. Which started sending only after 18.00 o'clock. Or paying for a newspaper subscription with the news and weather forecast of yesterday. If you wanted to know how the football games went listening to radio or watching teletext was the only way to get the news while they happened.
Nice video. Last couple of months also playing a somewhat max exploited strat where I betting small most streets with bluffs and large-huge with nuttie hands. Very interessing of poker: Is that only fishes and more trained poker players are playing like this and the intermediate player playing a more of some sort of try to match GTO style. I am playing in a huge 50nl regular table pool so I havent find any prove that the multitabling villains I face more often are knowing what I do. Only on days I running really bad I have the feeling I am too transparent and than I really need to say to myself I seeing ghost.
My favorite line: Bet very small flop with bluffs (1.5bb), overbet turn (10.5 bb) (also on board that are paired/straight/flush possibilities) and give up river
anyone with half a brain notes this after a few showdowns and exploits the shit out of you. btw if fish are doing something that youre also doing thats probably a bad sign
This is a really nice exploit line vs pool.
My experience is similar that pool over calls vs small bet flop and overfolds vs big bet on turn
However, by overbetting the flop you gain a lot more EV with your nutted hands. If you like to triple barrel bluff, then the overbet OTF is your take as well: villains gonna overfold to all sizes, but overfolding to a big size loses more EV than overfolding to a smaller size (assuming the same % of overfold)
this is very reminiscent of the huge x/r strat Marc Goon @ hungry horse poker was talking about. Essentially, x/r to 6x-10x when OOP facing small range bets if your hand has even a dream of backdoor equity. V is supposed to fold 2 pair almost pure and start folding out sets at some frequency, but especially live people will defend with top pair etc. making larger mistakes than they would otherwise.
If they’re overcalling that makes bluffing worse
@@stebrabakone not when they fold too much of their range on turn and river
@@jacevincent2574 makes sense
Regarding where to put in volume:
My vote is on GG. Rake is high I know, but pools are big and with many recs so plenty of chances to play and show exploits we all like to se. 😊
Generally, with flop overbets... in the spot you showed, q96ss... you'll likely get overdefense, because people don't realise they need to be folded second and third pairs right away, and even top pairs. However, and this is what makes the play good vs those opponents... the barrels, they'll arrive on turns and rivers so wide, your fold equity will be through the roof
edit: you said this later in the video
Overbettng the flop vs a BB calling range is delicious on any board with only a single card over a 9 on the board.
60% of the time it works every time!
In our 1/2 live game a B120 flop bet is standard most of the time
21:52 you say that 66 might be indifferent to that size, depending on the suits. I haven't ran it, but I don't believe that. My gut says that calling 66 vs that bet size would be a blunder.
20 January 1992, and i for sure remember Teletext, and how i used it to look if my sport bets were doing well and what is happening at the soccer games, Boomer 😢
Love this content, even though i never play cash. It's very helpful :D
I saw a srp flop over bet for the first time in memory earlier today.
Telext was where I used to keep up with the football scores.
Teletext is the real internet
what do you think of ignition?
Of couurse my dad always checked the football scores of the season on teletext
Holy pete 20:17 i think you watched my video HA!
Anyways i love this! You accidentally overbet and hit us with the most eye opening video ever. Thanks pete!
Edit: do the challenge on stars! The rake is so much more friendly even after the changes. I find the pool isn’t tougher whatsoever and actually easier. I’m geofenced in Ontario though, so it’s just shit regs and donks.
I also like being able to actually see my graph trend up and not stay flat while watching my rakeback line grow lol.
You’ve also turned my red line right around, and it’s printing!
To be fair Pete, Tal also said "There are 2 kinds of sacrifice, correct ones and mine."
so far greatest line i´ve heard here! "i fucking overbet flops! thats what i do" :D
Using teletext to this day! Age 33 😂🙋🏻♂️
I remember when teletext was new and amazing.
There are two types of sacrifices: one are correct sacrifices and two there are my sacrifices.
The magician from Riga. I’ve played Hikaru irl.
well, i think you missed the most important thing on this video, wich is showing a player pool analysis and how much they fold/call/raise against this sizing on this kind of board, you just said "people will have a lower fold % compared to GTO, but, you didnt show any data as proof, this could be just your perception .
also, i only play reg tables where you can find peoples results, i dont play rush n cash, but i would think its very similar, but, on GG, there is basically not a single reg winning at a long term result with good sample with a strategy where his red line is up, only a few bots have those red lines up, but real people (who cant calculate insane math during play like a bot), there are none with good results and red line up, so, i think u should have that in mind and dont focus that much on red line.
Cant wait to use this in my home games where my mates moan when I raise pre flop
Ha! I have the best story for this video.... I'm not even going to talk strategy, or what I was thinking, judge for yourselves lol.... just fyi, I've played my whole life, online since its inception... but, about 3 months ago now, I was playing in my first ever Sunday Million on ps. It was 4th or 5th hand, I was in BB with 33. mp raises standard 3 or 4 blinds, I think 380, or 520 whatever, button calls, I call. Flop comes KK3... I think about 2.5 secs, and I slam 49K+ allin, lmao, raiser calls, button folds of course, he turns over AK - I get my first bounty, hahaha sucka... and it's really dry the rest of the way, but I limp into the money, tx to that hand:)
thats a cooler where i believe you will own his stack most of the time since the hand just play itself
@@tranminh2655 yes, exactly, and that's the point. It's an overbet on the flop, the most extreme, ... and villain pays me
I like alot your stuff, this feels more ego listen to yourself talk driven. But do you , BRO
Spoken like someone who's never gotten his ass kicked by an antelope
Mikhail Tal was a Soviet - Latvian chess player. Only reason for word Soviet is because we were occupied by those monsters. So please xorrect your animation and next time please double check facts. Thank you!
if the Soviet Jew Tal had been unlucky and turned out to be “Latvian”, it is unlikely that he would have lived to see what chess is

Latvian SS Legion would double check the facts
Anyone got a script to type bro in chat when we do this it gets annoying, wonder how many times petes got raised today after doin this😂
anybody here was into BBSs?
Not an effing boomer... am 46 an effing gen-x' err..... Unfortunately I know what effing tellytext is lmao.
Top video! Regards PS vs GG, I'd say that GG doesn't like pro or even semi-pro players, you're a pro, they don't like you, if I have a Bar close to home and they don't like me, I prefer to go to the other one that they like my presence, send the fuck GG network to the hell until they dye and the pool from there will find another site to play, as it always happens.
You just isolate yourself vs stronger hands
Always true if we bet with Khigh - its a bluff!
In general thouhh If thats true for our value hands as well then villain is massively overfolding and were printing by bluffing every hand.
If they're only defending with top pair +, then the overbet is automatically profitable with any two cards against that villain
your thumbnails are not acceptable