A Short History of Thor/Delta Rocket Evolution

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
  • A short history of the evolution of the Thor-Delta family of rockets from Thor-Able to Delta II.
    Models by RaiderNick and Kartoffelkuchen.
    Music from the World of Warships OST.

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  • @765kvline
    @765kvline 3 роки тому +4

    Good evolutionary explanation. I've always admired Thor as a missile and SLV.

  • @lipo8426
    @lipo8426 6 років тому +18

    Very well done, I would only add Delta III as well as it had Thor based core, but still, great video

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  6 років тому +15

      Delta III was Thor, but didn't have an upper stage related to Able/Delta, so it's not part of the Delta family. It is part of the Thor family, but in that I also didn't cover Thor-Burner, Thor-Agena, and the Japanese N-I and H-I. I do regret not mentioning the Japanese N-II, which is a Delta 1904.

  • @Mike-kr3on
    @Mike-kr3on 6 років тому +6

    Wow, what an amazing video Tyler, loved seeing the changes to the Thor remade in ksp

  • @eannamcnamara9338
    @eannamcnamara9338 6 років тому +2

    I'm designing a stock delta series of rockets and this video is more helpful than any Google search I did. Thanks!

  • @cdw2468
    @cdw2468 6 років тому +6

    Those first stage tanks really got to be a mouthful

  • @Earle20
    @Earle20 6 років тому +1

    Well done. As one that was there, 1957-1979, That was the best overview I've seen.

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 2 роки тому

    As a young pup, I first heard about the Delta II from a very unusual source. It came from ABC Sports coverage of the PBA Pro Bowlers Tour when they were covering the 1989 Florida Bowlers Journal nearby KSC.

  • @mosutube
    @mosutube 6 років тому +6

    Thanks for this informative Video. I think i'll start a Rocket-Line with boosters in my rp-0 game, to compare cost and ability...

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  6 років тому +1

      Honestly, they're pretty horrible in terms of lift capacity - the Thor core engine has relatively low ISP for a Kerosene-burning engine. The key to the rocket was always the AJ10, especially once it was able to reignite.

    • @mosutube
      @mosutube 6 років тому

      Of that i am shure. Im already way past Thor tech. But at this time i don't use any boosters and just unlocked some Solids...

  • @dammfx
    @dammfx 6 років тому +2

    Very well-made video!

  • @picklesteve3295
    @picklesteve3295 Рік тому

    Good job.

  • @Bluegillbronco2
    @Bluegillbronco2 6 років тому +1

    Very nice video.

  • @corymitchell3228
    @corymitchell3228 6 років тому +2

    Nice intro

  • @rkornilo
    @rkornilo 6 років тому +1

    Thanks that was really cool.
    I just wish Kerbal would upgrade their rocket exhaust visuals. Some of them literally look like the exhaust is leaking out the nozzle (the early Thor).

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  6 років тому +2

      Practically none of this is stock KSP visuals, so KSP upgrading stock would be meaningless. There are ways of tweaking that with RealPlume, which is what I'm using here.

    • @rkornilo
      @rkornilo 6 років тому +1

      Right on, Tyler. Well I can say that the modeling later in the video looked more realistic in the higher altitudes such as at the 10:10 mark.

  • @jaycemacinnis2228
    @jaycemacinnis2228 4 роки тому +1

    1989-2018 were the years of service for Delta II

  • @tangyranch1
    @tangyranch1 2 роки тому

    RIP delta we will remember you

  • @topsecret1837
    @topsecret1837 3 роки тому

    One could argue this to be the penultimate American second generation standard rocket; a rocket that was larger in diameter than the 1.65m booster cores on the first generation of rockets (which were directly descended from the German V-2) with new engines, but still needed a very simple, far smaller second stage with storable or solid propellant to reach orbit. The Atlas and Titan did not have that limitation, and thus are arguably third generation, alongside the R-7 (which although still used a Hydrogen Peroxide decomposition startup mechanism, had orbital capability in two stages and employed Kerosene as a fuel instead of Ethanol.
    Delta IV would arguably be the world’s first Fourth generation standard rocket, employing a wider core of 5m, being a completely new rocket employing a lighter fuel as a propellant. I’m not sure this is entirely fair however, since Long March 5 has a 5m booster core and Terran R, Neutron and Vulcan all intend to use booster cores with a diameter around 5m. I’m not sure what fuel Neutron uses yet but I’m fairly sure it’s not going to be Kerosene as Beck claimed, and I’m fairly sure he lied about any company actually trying to copy Neutron’s design after Rocket Lab released it.

  • @hwce6528
    @hwce6528 4 роки тому +1

    Just a quite heads up Altair and Grand Central are diffrent Solid Rocket Motors.

  • @goncalocosta2094
    @goncalocosta2094 6 років тому +1

    I have asked this in an older video but idk of you saw it so... can you do a tutorial on how to install ro in 1.3.1 and rp-1?

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  6 років тому

      I don't know anything about installing RP-1 - I haven't used it myself yet.

    • @goncalocosta2094
      @goncalocosta2094 6 років тому

      @@RaizSpace and what about ro in 1.3.1?

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  6 років тому

      Basically, just go to the official RO thread, get the required mods plus RSS first and test the install (the links all work properly now, I think), and make sure to install mods in small batches - not all at once.

    • @goncalocosta2094
      @goncalocosta2094 6 років тому

      @@RaizSpace thanks!

  • @geryz7549
    @geryz7549 4 роки тому +1

    If there was a 5th Delta, it would fittingly also be called Delta-V

    • @nolancain8792
      @nolancain8792 3 роки тому +2

      There really should. Unfortunately Vulcan is taking Atlas and Delta out. Why not nickname it that.

  • @lauratacderan3781
    @lauratacderan3781 3 роки тому

    IT HAS 9 BOASTERS AND A THOR CORE AND ITS THE TRUE LAST THOR

  • @rolfkarlstad4015
    @rolfkarlstad4015 3 роки тому

    Can't quite figure out if you are Russian, Finnish, German, or what, but my bet is on the left side. Am I right? =D

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  3 роки тому +2

      None. You seem to have a very limited scope for what I could be.

    • @rolfkarlstad4015
      @rolfkarlstad4015 3 роки тому

      @@RaizSpace a very creative youtuber? Nice videos!

  • @Grand-Massive
    @Grand-Massive 2 роки тому

    So the soviets only started doing hot staging after the US had done in flight ignitions with the AJ-10?

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  2 роки тому

      That's correct for orbital rockets - I can't verify other systems. The R7 rocket family did not get upper stages until after the AJ-10 first ignited in-flight.

    • @Grand-Massive
      @Grand-Massive 2 роки тому

      @@RaizSpace Ah cool. I didn't realize that. Thank you

  • @bonglambitco80
    @bonglambitco80 3 роки тому

    And 8000 series for the delta 3

  • @SFSryzv
    @SFSryzv 4 роки тому

    in 11:46 what delta rocket is it

    • @hesallrat3727
      @hesallrat3727 3 роки тому

      Delta II, the best of all. I'd say that it's a 792# series.

  • @Ignishawn
    @Ignishawn 4 роки тому

    Mod?

  • @ash-lo2dc
    @ash-lo2dc 5 років тому +1

    I like delta2

  • @lauratacderan3781
    @lauratacderan3781 3 роки тому

    You forgot DELTA 3

  • @rolfkarlstad4015
    @rolfkarlstad4015 3 роки тому

    Al-tear, not Al-tay-eer.

    • @RaizSpace
      @RaizSpace  3 роки тому +2

      The way I pronounce it is closer to correct because the name comes from Arabic, though I'm no specialist in that language. The way Westerners tend to pronounce it is incorrect, as with many star names. It's sort of like how NASA people tend to pronounce Gemini wrong.

    • @rolfkarlstad4015
      @rolfkarlstad4015 3 роки тому

      @@RaizSpace point taken, and you don't see me making these awesome videos, right?

  • @le_zoink
    @le_zoink 4 роки тому +1

    delta III tho... ;-;

  • @averyshaham1697
    @averyshaham1697 6 років тому +1

    I want to like this, but it has 69 likes, so, sorry tyler

  • @rocketnerd7763
    @rocketnerd7763 6 років тому +1

    Twu patato

  • @problem5697
    @problem5697 4 роки тому

    NII = off brand Delta II

  • @sebastianochoa5385
    @sebastianochoa5385 4 роки тому +1

    skinny second stages bad

  • @jaycemacinnis2228
    @jaycemacinnis2228 4 роки тому

    #deltaII #icesat2

  • @maxmxcartermx1007
    @maxmxcartermx1007 6 років тому +2

    second

  • @stefanklass6763
    @stefanklass6763 6 років тому

    First!