Tonga National Rugby League responds to naming controversy

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  • @27531
    @27531 11 днів тому +30

    Never ending story from our pacific island teamz!!! Always issues with money this money that, corruption BS, shout out to the tokos from an uso, i hope the Tongan boyz win on the weekend, i hope all the proud people of Tonga deserve to win And to the fanz who are mostly old people celebrate win or loose...Stuff the politics they can eat what the sow in the future...Good luck MMT 💯 TokoUso....Lesgoo

  • @NeiNeii676
    @NeiNeii676 9 днів тому +8

    Thats because yall kicked Coach Woolf out after the World Cup and try to bring your own Tongan coach in & we all know what that means - your cousins , uncles , sisters , brothers & aunties can play because Family comes before actual talent. Thats the problem with our IKALE TAHI team! Smh. The Boys boycott leading to the suspension of the TNRL from the IRL because yall had no one in the team left to play 😂! Big ups to the boys for standing behind Coach Woolf! They chose to play for Tonga not for money & yall here looking for a cut. Have a big as middle finger disrespectfully!

  • @tee4ree24
    @tee4ree24 10 днів тому +12

    Our boys are doing it for the People of Tonga not the Money and it shows the players don't ask for money it's the ones behind the scenes 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️😩

  • @imbatman5882
    @imbatman5882 11 днів тому +16

    "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help"

  • @SaiaT34
    @SaiaT34 10 днів тому +9

    Bloody Goose.
    Our Boys have the biggest match on Sunday and you are out here butt hurt.
    Shut up and talk your negative rubbish after Sunday.
    MMT regardless of this negative narrative

  • @JWorry676
    @JWorry676 10 днів тому +9

    Typical Islander mentality when something is going good someone wants a cut🤦🏽‍♂️just cause they own the MMT brand name they don't own MMT "the movement" it is a vibe, an aura our people are carrying don't "brand" it cause that's a palangi mentality, instead of focusing on the biggest game of our country's history we talking about this 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Where did he say he wants the money uncle Tom???? BTW MMT was given to the TNRL National rugby league team by the late Tuipelehake around 1988 to represent Tonga at the 1988 Pacific Cup!
      Does not belong to the people. You are like a dumb little coconut who like the palangis Woolf and Clark ripping all the money off from Tonga!

    • @JWorry676
      @JWorry676 5 днів тому

      @ did your unkolo Mr Edwards ask for funding from 2000, 2008 or 2013 World Cup Teams???

  • @dkmaps8547
    @dkmaps8547 10 днів тому +8

    No money to pay their salary🤔 but the ones who actually is going to battle on the feild is doing it for no money but for their people not only in tonga but world wide
    This bloke is straight kansa pa'anga 💯

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Lol all the money is going to Woolf and Scott Clark. They are ripping Tonga off that is why the players are not getting paid. Btw the players got paid at the last world cup but majority of the money went to Woolf and Clark. In 2023 Clark got paid out $200k for managing the Tonga team for 5 games while the players got crap!

    • @NeiNeii676
      @NeiNeii676 9 днів тому +2

      ​@@thefobbie6424& yet the boys choose Coach Woolf 😂 that speaks volume! Are you from the TNRL ? Or this guy your dad cause you in everyones comment justifying this man & calling us coconut 🤫🤣

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 6 днів тому

      @@NeiNeii676 lol the players were told by Woolf to sign a letter threatening a boycott against TNRL if they wanted to play for Tonga, accusing the court appointed interim board of the TNRL falsely of stealing money. The TNRL was removed as the administrators of rugby league in Tonga by the IRL, conveniently due to the lies by Woolf, while you support the white man regime running a wrought over Tonga rugby league - that is why you are a good little coconut!

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      ​@@thefobbie6424do what. They worth every dollar. The Proud and Happiness among our people and our Pacific's cousins is Priceless. Tell us what's the players pay to prove your point. If not shut up before Fans fan you till your teeth fell out

    • @Thelasttrywins
      @Thelasttrywins День тому

      ​@Richard-z8z you carrot, no money is going back to TONGAN LEAGUE. You think them boys care about money? The NRL pays more than enough why do you think ikale tahi and manu samoa suck? They rather play overseas for clubs because they pay more. In order for your country to have a team represent your a$$ you need to have a national competition with clubs. Well, these clubs that exist are the only reason you have a tongan team and those clubs are getting nothing. Are you happy supporting your island getting extorted ya muppet? Or you just like an excuse to get drunk and wave your flag?

  • @limzfeva4769
    @limzfeva4769 10 днів тому +9

    Just exposed himself - TNRL is all about the money. I side with the players - get rid of TNRL.

  • @nunya1989
    @nunya1989 9 днів тому +5

    Why is PMN giving this dude and TNRL airtime, we the people don’t care about these corrupt phoniessss

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому +1

      Its called 2 sides to a story yet the palangis - Woolf, Clark and Jeremy Edwards are ripping Tonga off and you sit there like a good little coconut!

    • @nunya1989
      @nunya1989 8 днів тому

      @ you clearly have NO CLUE how sports governance works in Tonga 🥴

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      I'm glad PMN bring this out. Good to know it Sai ke tau ilo ee. Hehehe

  • @opetifili9622
    @opetifili9622 11 днів тому +19

    This guy is just want the money😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Reformed1-e1c
      @Reformed1-e1c 11 днів тому

      No..he wants to keep the previous administrators accountable because after they were auditored, thousands of dollars went unaccounted. Former Tongan Minister Sika, Wolfe are corrupt.

    • @Reformed1-e1c
      @Reformed1-e1c 11 днів тому +2

      And what's your proof? Considering that the last administrators had thousands of dollars that went unaccounted. Sika was the Sports minister at the time and Wolfe was also looking to take over the Board.

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      ​​@@Reformed1-e1c - try TOP$348,000 and the treasurer fraudulently got a accountant from the Ministry of Finance to sign off the Financial accounts as audited by a auditor. A judge in Tonga removed these guys from the TNRL board for investigation and put in a interim board, Edwards, Koloamatangi and company to which Woolf and the IRL have removed and bought back some of those corrupt board members from the court case to run Tonga rugby league with Woolf and the palangis like Scott Clark and ex IRL board member Jeremy Edwards. Scott Clark was fired by the Titans for fraud!

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      ​@@Reformed1-e1cMoney out your own mouth Mr or Ms Reform1

  • @reputednioh9083
    @reputednioh9083 11 днів тому +10

    Edwards reeks of greed. He can't siphon the money anymore. 😂😂😂

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому +1

      You got proof comrade????

    • @Fili248
      @Fili248 7 днів тому +1

      Mate what are you even saying haha

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      His mouth​@@thefobbie6424

  • @dazloman5015
    @dazloman5015 10 днів тому +5

    This guy is blaming the irl and the the new zealander yet he cannot even manage to get the fund and resources to even run the locals competition properly...Tonga rugby union is ruin by these types of people and now they want to run nrl for Tonga...what a joke and I hope irl will continue working with the national team and hopefully find better personnels to help out the locals.

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому +2

      Lol TNRL have been running the national league competition every year and are presently running the local competition now!

  • @soanesikimeti4229
    @soanesikimeti4229 10 днів тому +6

    IRL control international games cause they are the copyright owner. You've been to court and everything was sorted resulting in your expulsion .All You've interested in is what benefits(money) repeatedly. The results that are most important to us people of Tonga is for Our national team to play well

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Get your facts straight - the IRL do NOT OWN the copyright to the game. The IRL's main function is to administer the game - thry are the main administrators to the game! If you have read the court's ruling then where in the ruling does it establish that the TNRL received a fair due process by the IRL????

  • @darranseeto1663
    @darranseeto1663 10 днів тому +4

    The name is trade marked by a company and they are making money on it. The players don't want it as it's conflict of interest

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Lol Mate Ma'a Tonga is patented by TNRL and the trademark is owned by TNRL! How is there a conflict of interest????

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      What company

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      What company

  • @bigboy3435
    @bigboy3435 11 днів тому +6

    All about the money.

  • @opetifili9622
    @opetifili9622 11 днів тому +8

    300 dollars for field 😂😂😂 all the field in tonga is for free.

    • @watchtrippy5866
      @watchtrippy5866 10 днів тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Wow ignorance at its best! Can you tell me if Ha'alano or Teufaiva or how about Atele or TOLOA are giving their fields to be used for free - lmao good little dumb coconut!

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      Free for what . Wrestling match or for the TRL board members Sumo wrestling hehehe
      Get the Mortein

  • @KM-gt3kc
    @KM-gt3kc 11 днів тому +17

    This guy got money cancer 🤣🤣 this guy is like Manu samoas prime minister eating all the money

    • @lalovi2159
      @lalovi2159 11 днів тому +2

      💯 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      You got proof that this guy is eating the money, uncle Tom????

  • @lauriengingitau2951
    @lauriengingitau2951 10 днів тому +5

    "mioi" the story corruption in Tonga rugby league bitter over money this guy

  • @MrUHTiger
    @MrUHTiger 5 днів тому +2

    Tongan Admin want money obviously the League players have there own money.

  • @susanabarkley7003
    @susanabarkley7003 11 днів тому +7

    All talk shit all about money

  • @tonifinau4820
    @tonifinau4820 10 днів тому +3

    9:49 Yes , Is not affecting the players and the people , (the red sea) because you guys are not running the current team.
    The name/word Mate Maa Tonga is for the Tongan.🇹🇴🇹🇴MMT.
    untill then, you can keep your logo for now.

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому +1

      Lol it was Tupou iv who gave the name Mate Ma'a Tonga to the TRNL national league team to represent Tonga at 1988 Pacific Cup. MMT belongs to TNRL

    • @hermez2004
      @hermez2004 8 днів тому +5

      ​@@thefobbie6424 This MMT name was the king's name intended for the National Rugby league team not TRNL. Its purpose is to bless the team/boys who would sacrifice money/fame to represent Tonga in the National R. League team. It wasn't intended to be patented byTNRL nor a couple of resentful money hungry ex. Management board members to own.

    • @renegade9064
      @renegade9064 7 днів тому

      @@thefobbie6424 so what? no organisation will truly own the meaning MMT. We don't need to use the logo MMT or anything connected to TNRL. No thanks, they had Siaosi Koloamatangi speak on this earlier years and made this worse.

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 6 днів тому +1

      @@hermez2004 In order for the national team to exist there had to be an orgainsation that existed to run a local competition - that was the rules of the International Rugby League:
      1) it was the TNRL that started the rugby league in Tonga
      2) it was the TNRL that started the club rugby league competition in Tonga in 1988 with 5 clubs
      3) it was the TNRL that set up and started the first Tonga national rugby league team in 1988
      4) it was the TNRL that asked Tupou IV to name the Tonga national rugby league team representing Tonga at 1988 Pacific Cup
      5) it was George Mann who drove the start of rugby league in Tonga and setting up the TNRL
      Get your facts straight LIAR

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 6 днів тому

      @@renegade9064 what you fail to understand is that Tonga does not own Tonga rugby league anymore - its controlled by the white man - Woolf, Scott Clark and Jeremy Edwards!

  • @datahussle9310
    @datahussle9310 10 днів тому +3

    TONGA TAPU MEANS IS SACRET LAST I HERD IT WAS THE KING WHO GAVE THAT NAME MATE MAA TONGA .KALM LALO HIFO

  • @Richard-z8z
    @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

    Without Prejudice. The Problem with the FANS is the Timing of it and How the TNRL dealt with the issues.

    • @Reformed1-e1c
      @Reformed1-e1c 10 годин тому

      I disagree. The timing is not the issue. It is how people reacted. The timing was beyond TNRL's control. The new board took affect in 2018 and were given the task to audit on TNRL's finances prior to 2018. They had to provide this report to the IRL and their external partners. But the revelation of funds unaccounted hit a nerve that people like Hopoate started to speak out a false narrative.

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 5 годин тому

      @Reformed1-e1c Yes Your timing to come in 2018 and made that Accusations against the Original or Last Board Members and as a result replacing them. The FAN got upset and Rightly so Entitled to that because MMT had made a Name for Themselves but most of All their Country Kingdom of TONGA. You brought up the Money issues to Justify your Unprofessional Interference. You try to shift the Limelight from Players and the People the FAN the Country to your pathetic Nu Board n members. Did the Players made a Formal Complaint.No. Did the Coach Complain .No. Why didn't they stay with you then. That's Explain a lot hey. Why IRL Expel you. Means you had no Case nor strong foundation for your Claim. You talked about Money and they should be in your side because they provide Fund for TRL. Is that right. My Question is How many of Old members still with you. Did you REPLACE all of them. How did you know the Financial Situation of the TRL.

    • @Reformed1-e1c
      @Reformed1-e1c 2 години тому

      @@Richard-z8z
      -the allegations are factual. The timing is very unfortunate but the whole issue occurred for a long time going back 16 years ago. It only spilled in 2018 and 2019 when the court in Nuku'alofa ruled in favour to remove the previous board because they failed to audit their finances or at least provide a financial report.
      -MMT was given by the King to the Tongan National Rugby League in 1986 as a gift. TNRL trademark that name and it belongs to them. It does not belong to the people because the King never gave it to the people. If you think that "MMT" belongs to the people or not trademarked, you will have to wonder how TNRL won their civil suit against T13 representatives in the high court in NZ.
      -I am not part of TNRL I am an observer of current issues.
      -Kristian Woolfe's contract was up for renewal in 2018 or 2019 but his demands were unrealistic. For example, he negotiated for 20% of market shares made by MMT and 20% of profit made from the games. Considering that TNRL was losing money as a result of the previous board under Semisi Sika, the new board doesnt have the financial means to agree to the terms. Essentially, Woolfe and Hopoate created a false narrative among the players claiming that the new board are liars and eating the money. That is an outrageous claim because Hopoate has zero evidence of this given that the new board came into effect 6 months after the previous board was removed in 2019.
      --How did I know about the financial situation of TNRL?
      Look up US$342,000 unaccounted, RNZ and Kaniva had reported this in 2019.

    • @Reformed1-e1c
      @Reformed1-e1c Годину тому

      ​@Richard-z8z
      The timing is unfortunate and there's no real control over it because the court in Nuku'ualofa ruled to remove the board chaired by Semisi Sika. The reason they were removed was due to them failing to audit their finances.
      I am not part of TRL. Just an observer.
      Kristian woolfe's contract was up for renewal in 2018 or 2019. But his terms was unrealistic for TRL. He negotiated for 20% of market shares and 20% of profits made from games.

  • @kenat.7421
    @kenat.7421 10 днів тому +1

    Fai omai r affiliate Koia o show who you guys are. Start your own . Is not affecting anyone cos we don’t care. The people knows what do you mean no want know what’s the real story.

  • @Tgang90
    @Tgang90 11 днів тому +6

    Money money money lol these players played for nothing!!! They then should reap the rewards!!! The last interviewer was right about the name !!! You just sit down and shut up!!! Fiepoto let them use the MMT … there is no local player that would ever make our team!! NOT ONE

  • @kwolfgramm1
    @kwolfgramm1 10 днів тому +2

    What a joke! You’re not gonna get any money from anyone especially the fans. You forgot who the Island Kingdom puts first in their lives. Here’s a hint, it’s in our motto ❤️🇹🇴

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому +1

      You forget who owns the rugby league in Tonga - ALL the clubs under TNRL and if it had not been for rugby league in Tonga there would br NO MMT for the fans!

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Yeah because are a good little coconut who like the palangis to rip off Tonga from the money that belongs to Tonga rugby league!

    • @hermez2004
      @hermez2004 8 днів тому +2

      @@thefobbie6424 don't see anyone from the clubs you claim to be under you TNRL representing team today?

    • @renegade9064
      @renegade9064 7 днів тому

      @@thefobbie6424 no one cares about what goes on in Tonga, its corrupt. Regardless it's the people who carry on MMT. We no longer need to always be in Tonga. Time for them understand it's best to run it oversea with Tongans. Easier to audit.

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 6 днів тому

      @@hermez2004 lol you have no clue on what you are talking about. The clubs are the shareholders of the game in Tonga. Without them the national team cannot exist according to the International Rugby League - now go away and let that sink in to your simple mind!

  • @Richard-z8z
    @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

    How about IRL Ban the TRL board members from attending any INL Championship Competition. Or supported by any other Clubs World Wide. MMT lifted the IRL Image World Wide. IRL should remove TRL membership n stoo supporting them

  • @Richard-z8z
    @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

    MNT fans should adj the Laughing Samoans Duo to a Special Show about the Tonga Rugby League Boards and the MMT saga. Let them Samoans Duo take Revenge on Behalf of the FANS of course. But not too far Remember the Fans they might stop Singing Hymns n start singing the TAI Oo.

  • @krispahia2064
    @krispahia2064 10 днів тому +1

    I'm not crying u are😂😂😂

  • @jazzyfizzle1376
    @jazzyfizzle1376 5 днів тому +1

    So this guy speaks for 15 min but never answers the question at all. Imagine being this scared of truth 🤡

  • @kenat.7421
    @kenat.7421 10 днів тому +1

    He iky ke lava a Tonga o taofi a Tonga . The people rule

  • @pelepesitelatukefu7170
    @pelepesitelatukefu7170 10 днів тому +2

    Just leave Samoa stuff alone fix yourself

    • @Richard-z8z
      @Richard-z8z 2 дні тому

      Oopsy. Might be same one that stuff. Both teams in both never ENDing story

  • @Jak3HxC
    @Jak3HxC 9 днів тому

    They can name a horse but not a league team 🙄

  • @sahmoo26
    @sahmoo26 6 днів тому

    PMN being messy and not doing their due diligence before running this story.

  • @tevitamaafu2494
    @tevitamaafu2494 11 днів тому +1

    Sort it out mate ...stop talking action 😂

  • @Abc1231x1
    @Abc1231x1 11 днів тому +2

    Put names to these accusations, hearsay politics is old. Give back to Tonga not just parade around well the game is dying back home😂 MMT

  • @ramz875
    @ramz875 10 днів тому +1

    It's affecting your pockets 😂

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Yeah because you are a good little coconut who like it going to the pockets of Woolf and Scott Clark and not helping the development of the game in Tonga!

  • @sefoahsiu8524
    @sefoahsiu8524 11 днів тому

    International rugby league is pommy bs funnelling system for the English super league. How they use the name for financial but cannot fix up their side of the world

  • @Fili248
    @Fili248 7 днів тому +1

    Makes a lot of sense. People in the Tongan rugby league committee are not managing the finances well. Thanks Willie Edward’s for shedding light on this

  • @sionetaufoou
    @sionetaufoou День тому

    Smh tapuni ho peka

  • @kaliboo1551
    @kaliboo1551 10 днів тому

    Alu Mo hoo mou kii Poate TnRL o kai ha ta'e mole taimi.

    • @thefobbie6424
      @thefobbie6424 9 днів тому

      Woolf and Clark will like you because you are a good little dumb coconut!