Jordan Peterson is Succeeding where Evangelicalism is Failing

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  • Evangelicalism has strayed away from its core message of repentance. This has created a vacuum that has being filled by pseudo-religions like that of Jordan Peterson. This video examines how Evangelicalism dropped the ball and what it can do to once again influence the culture for Christ.
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  • @justinr6006
    @justinr6006 22 дні тому +26

    It kinda reminds me of Orwell’s review of Mein Kamp where he says, “Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all ‘progressive’ thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security and avoidance of pain.”

  • @michelferreira9695
    @michelferreira9695 22 дні тому +26

    The bible is the best evangelizer. In my youth, I sought for God in many kinds of churches, but in all those years, I was never presented to the Gospels, not even once.
    The churches were always so preoccupied with their own stuff that Jesus Good News got put on low priority. Honestly, I felt more like a ghost at those churches. I didn't exist. I got there, sat there, listened to the pastor/priest and that's it. No one ever approached me, not once.
    I finally converted myself when I first read the New Testament many years ago, where I understood who Jesus was and what He did on the cross. The words spoke to me like they were alive, I cannot explain even today. Then I believed and I said the words, then I got saved.
    If you are a part of a church, and you see a young lonely person visiting once in a while, PAY ATTENTION to new joiners and TELL THEM THE GOSPELS. Christians are not supposed to close themselves in a bubble of believers only. We have a mission, as a community, to TELL THE GOOD NEWS!

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 22 дні тому

      It is too abstracted from modernism

  • @ayzikdig1983
    @ayzikdig1983 22 дні тому +15

    listening while cleaning my room

  • @crossrulz
    @crossrulz 22 дні тому +13

    From my view, the Seeker Sensitive movement caused churches to dumb down theology, always serving milk. But to sustain a church, it needs meat.

    • @charliedontsurf334
      @charliedontsurf334 22 дні тому +7

      I agree, and it drives me nuts. I like to half joke half rebuke the Church for functionally decanonizing Song of Songs and Revelation. Song of Songs because it is "icky" and Revelation because it is hard. I've been learning a lot from Dr. Falk and Dr. Heiser. Both have really deepened my faith.

  • @murtjo9873
    @murtjo9873 18 днів тому +1

    AMEN. A much-needed word. Thank you!

  • @BenB23.
    @BenB23. 22 дні тому +8

    The best description of Peterson's soteriology I have heard is that he has an Augustinian anthropology and a Pelagian soteriology.

  • @andrewrakisits9270
    @andrewrakisits9270 19 днів тому +2

    Great analysis I agree on your assessment. I’m a new subscriber been watching all your videos.

  • @samueljennings4809
    @samueljennings4809 22 дні тому +8

    I suspect that this may also be influencing the growing number of evangelicals leaving evangelicalism and going towards Catholic and Orthodox churches. ESPECIALLY younger men. Most (not all) of modern evangelicalism is basically an empty husk without any conviction or faith in God that prioritises being seen as "relevant" or "cool" rather than the honest wrestling with God that the Scriptures so often describe.

    • @samueljennings4809
      @samueljennings4809 22 дні тому +4

      Regarding the churches they go towards, I notice that conservative Protestant churches like the LCMS and GAFCON (or churches outside the first world) seem to hold the line better than mainstream liberal ones or better than SBC megachurches. I think that young men in particular are drawn towards conviction but unfortunately evangelicalism is chasing worldly relevance, trends and popularity at the expense of conviction.

    • @negativedawahilarious
      @negativedawahilarious 22 дні тому +3

      lcms and eastern Orthodoxy ❤

  • @gaiusoctavius5935
    @gaiusoctavius5935 22 дні тому +12

    Will you do a video doing a deep dive on repentance and how the Evangelicals lost sight of it?

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому

      Maybe...

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 21 день тому

      NOT ALL Evangelicals have lost sight of it: way to much of a blanket statement.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому

      @@davidjanbaz7728 Not all, but enough that they have lost their saltiness and no longer provide light to a world that is lost. How much more does the failure need to be before a blanket statement becomes not only justified but embarrassing?

  • @younggrasshopper3531
    @younggrasshopper3531 20 днів тому +2

    Dude, this is awesome. I think people who are or are would-be seekers of Christ are so turned away by hypocrisy in the evangelical movement. Especially when the sin of in-group preference (James 2, 1 Corinth 11:21) is running the show, as it so often is.

  • @isaakleillhikar8311
    @isaakleillhikar8311 22 дні тому +6

    I was talking to a supposing Christian for the first time in a year. And all my concerns were just summarized in one cristallisée series of statements. They made the Sigmund Freud Gospel out to be Jesus’ mission come to earth.
    They said « We all have traumas, just like I have traumas because I am choleric. But we should be proud of it, because Jesus did not come for the well, but for the ill. »
    « I have traumas like everyone because sometimes I am choleric. » Being angry about the existence of bad things is not the problem. It’s part of the reality, God is angry with sin.
    « We should be proud of being traumad. » In the sense of that meaning wether we are evil, we are not supposed to be proud of being evil. The fact that God is going to be merciful about us being evil is what we should be glad about, nothing about being happy that we are evil people.
    And « Jesus came for the sick and not the well » What Matthew and Luke actually says is « Well people do not need a physician but the sick. The son of man did not come for the righteous but to call sinners To Repentance. ». Now calling sick people by that term is horrendous. You don’t talk about sick people like you talk about a sinner.
    The Sigmund Freud gospel turns so much understanding upside down.

  • @BenB23.
    @BenB23. 18 днів тому +1

    It would be great to see you and Paul Vanderklay have a discussion on this. He is a Pastor in the CRC and makes alot of comments on Jordan Peterson.

  • @ryanparris1021
    @ryanparris1021 22 дні тому +3

    You hit the nail on the head on this one.

  • @JasonNapalm72
    @JasonNapalm72 21 день тому +2

    I made a video on whether JP is a Christian and the answer is No. As a student of psychology and holder of diplomas in Neuropsychology, Neuroplasticity and theoretical and practical psychotherapy I do find JP interesting and how it has appealed to the psyche and intelligence of certain high profile people but I recognise certain New Age aspects in JPs believe system. Good video Doc 👍

  • @jameswitt108
    @jameswitt108 22 дні тому +4

    Big up Dr keep up the great work!🙏 ✝️

  • @Yan_Alkovic
    @Yan_Alkovic 22 дні тому +4

    Indeed, but change requires incentive. The modern world does not provide such incentive, it only provides incentive for work or entertainment, not growth. We gotta do something about that, I feel like.

  • @fushumang1716
    @fushumang1716 22 дні тому +2

    JP is not a Christian preacher, so its not advisable taking theology from him. He's a psychologist whose views are in preserving traditional values such as family, biological sexuality, and moral justice. I knew him from his anti-woke campaigns. I find him more along the lines of a bridge between materialists and theists through philosophy, getting to the question of "what is the best possible explanation for existence". He got trapped recently by Cosmic Skeptic. For me he's like any other scientist who are peer-pressured to accept evolution to not be labelled as a pseudo-scientist but still dabbles into religion because it makes more sense and it is aligned with his (hopefully getting there) worldview

  • @charliedontsurf334
    @charliedontsurf334 22 дні тому +3

    "Why do you call me Lord, Lord and not do what I say?" (Luke 6:46) The hard thing is we have to hit the nail on the head not deviating to the right or to the left. Aella and Nalla Rae both grew up in hyper fundamentalist denominations that drove them to OnlyFans. Pearl Davis has a point (no matter how poorly she makes it) that the Church is way too ok with sin in it. Meanwhile, many I know many who have fallen away in the Deconstruction Movement from wishy washy churches. For me, it was the History Channel's "Banned from the Bible" that got me to actually read the Bible, and OMG there is a lot they leave out in church today!
    What do you think was different Evangelicalism that kept people from falling away until recently? I certainly agree we need to bring back holiness and church discipline. It needs to hurt to get people's attention, but not so much to drive people away. I don't think a ban from Communion/the Eucharist is enough, but the IBLP (think the Duggars) is too far the other way.
    Have you read The Benedict Option or The Boniface Option? If, so what are your thoughts on them? Whatever we do, this is a complex issue that needs a well thought out plan to execute. Let it not be said that we didn't do our absolute best for the Kingdom.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +2

      > What do you think was different Evangelicalism that kept people from falling away until recently? I certainly agree we need to bring back holiness and church discipline. It needs to hurt to get people's attention, but not so much to drive people away. I don't think a ban from Communion/the Eucharist is enough, but the IBLP (think the Duggars) is too far the other way.
      Until recently, Evangelicalism was fairly united in holding itself as distinct from Mainline Protestants, so it not only held to the fundamentals of the Historic Christian Faith but also saw that as something to live by. Today, the vast majority of Evangelicals cannot really tell you what is the difference is between Evangelicals and Mainline Protestants. And this lack of identity has led to a change in the religious landscape. Some Evangelicals drifted into more liberal views of the fundamentals, and they suffered the same fate as liberal Protestant churches. The other Evangelicals held the line with more conservative views of the fundamentals. Some maintain a gospel of repentance and a healthy congregation, although this is becoming rarer these days. Still other conservative churches drifted into dead orthodoxy, where the person preaching has all the right beliefs, but the people in the pews are unrepentant and dead in their sins.
      > Have you read The Benedict Option or The Boniface Option? If, so what are your thoughts on them? Whatever we do, this is a complex issue that needs a well thought out plan to execute. Let it not be said that we didn't do our absolute best for the Kingdom.
      Sorry, I haven't read either of those books.

  • @MichelleTurnz
    @MichelleTurnz 22 дні тому +4

    You hit the nail on the head!!!!

  • @not_milk
    @not_milk 14 днів тому

    I know this is a little out of your wheelhouse in topics, but this was a very great video of yours. I love hearing your perspective on evangelicalism. I think a lot of people are prepared to hear such criticisms and move toward a solution to these problems. I just pray they don’t trade one set of problems for another, though that feels inevitable with every shift in values.

  • @codeuniverse8826
    @codeuniverse8826 22 дні тому +2

    Thats crazy….. thank you Dr. Falk. The church i go to teaches repentance and getting baptized in the name of Jesus. Repentance meaning to turn away from your sins.

  • @lexidot
    @lexidot 21 день тому +1

    Great Video Dr. Falk.

  • @CiliPB
    @CiliPB 16 днів тому

    He has said that seeking truth is the same as worship of the divine word. That's so different than the essential message of the gospel where grace is extended when we repent through Jesus Christ.

  • @ramadadiver7810
    @ramadadiver7810 22 дні тому +2

    I believe that a lot of evangelicalism . Appealing to Paul for ' faith alone ' have excluded the relationship of 'works ' and have given some Christians excuses to not actually better themselves because they feel 'entitled 'to salvation because as long as they 'have faith 'they are saved
    It must be reminded so we can be examples to the world .
    That Paul directly said . Those who practice the works of the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God and that 'nothing else matters except faith powered through love

  • @nathanaelswayne8024
    @nathanaelswayne8024 22 дні тому +3

    Dr. Falk! Love your channel so much! Where would you say these churches you speak of primarily reside? I would say in my environment, Christianity is still very much welcoming to clean looking people while being less welcoming to messier people. As an example, if I go to church regularly, but have little love for God or my neighbor, in many churches, I will be welcomed as a good Christian man

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +2

      I have seen most of these kinds of churches in the West. However, that too is most of my experience with Christianity at the local congregational level. I have seen churches like this in England, Canada, and the USA.

  • @user-pd8bk4ei1h
    @user-pd8bk4ei1h 22 дні тому +2

    Jordan also began his change when and his family went on a carnivore diet

  • @bigtev2852
    @bigtev2852 22 дні тому +1

    Been waiting on your opinion I think as a it’s hard to let go of your power of knowledge and what you think you know and Jordan is in my opinion trying but pray he comes fully to Christ as a baby humbled

  • @tygersoul
    @tygersoul 21 день тому +1

    Amen brother.

  • @danielcartwright8868
    @danielcartwright8868 19 днів тому

    Hmm...I think there's a bit more going on than self-help. I think also his appeal to greater meaning and purpose, his courage in not bending to the pressure and trends of society, and his openness to the transcendent (which recently seems to be moving in the direction of, if not already, a more explicit confession of Christ).

  • @tylerx099
    @tylerx099 21 день тому +1

    Preach it!!!

  • @swanny8777
    @swanny8777 21 день тому

    Amen! Great word that we all need to remember as we work out our salvation with fear and trembling in the hands of the living God. Question for you Dr. Falk: I grew up from my youth group days believing I should be praying for revival. Now that I am older (while maybe not wiser or smarter) it seems we might need to be praying for reformation of some sort grounded on repentance and sanctification. Any thoughts on what the end result of such a reformation might look like in practical terms or what might be the catalyst for such change (given your experience with the history of the church)?

  • @justinhall6671
    @justinhall6671 22 дні тому +1

    Have you thought about doing a video on Justification by faith or on Sanctification?

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +2

      Not really. I leave that generally up to the systematic theologians that are on UA-cam. Oh wait... there aren't any systematic theologians on UA-cam. I might have to rethink that... 😬

  • @InfoAddict26
    @InfoAddict26 22 дні тому +1

    I like Peterson, (for obvious reasons) and while I think a lot of his “theological” views are utter bogus and the ramblings of an ignoramus stepping out of his field, I wouldn’t consider his advice on self improvement to be akin to a “pseudo religion”. Aside from that, I do agree very much that the churches lack of caring towards the actions of believers, and the all across the board laziness and being educationally inept is seriously disappointing if not a huge detriment to the church at large. I’ve been noticing a trend at least in my church, where the students or younger ppl, (at least in my age group) are far more educated and lack the same rut that i see so many of the pastors being in. It’s such an oddity.

  • @Arodri360
    @Arodri360 22 дні тому +1

    Great video, Dr. Falk! I agree that Sanctification is of utmost importance to the body of Christ. I wanted clarification on the definition of Repentance. In the Greek, it apparently means “a change of mind; to have one’s mind changed.” Please clarify how this correlates to a turning from sin, per se, as opposed to a turning from unbelief and of faith towards God (Hebrews 6:1). Further, if repentance is a requirement for salvation, would a turning from sin (I.e. keeping the law, since sin is transgression of the law) for salvation (not sanctification) thus create a works-based, legalistic gospel? Thank you for all the amazing work you do, Dr. Falk! ❤
    If anyone else wants to chime in and give their thoughts, please feel free to do so.

    • @Aman-vi8ws
      @Aman-vi8ws 22 дні тому

      In Rodney Stark's book, he mentions in European context itself, somehow religiosity is more in Catholix.Orthodox than Protestant countries like Scandinavia. There is something about the rituals and community and it has transferable family and job skills even.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +4

      > Great video, Dr. Falk!
      Thank you.
      > I agree that Sanctification is of utmost importance to the body of Christ. I wanted clarification on the definition of Repentance. In the Greek, it apparently means “a change of mind; to have one’s mind changed.”
      The word μετανοεω, strictly speaking it means "to turn around" or a "subsequent correction." As used in the NT, it can mean "to change one's mind" but that is with a change of direction in mind.
      > Please clarify how this correlates to a turning from sin, per se, as opposed to a turning from unbelief and of faith towards God (Hebrews 6:1).
      Turning from sin is turning from unbelief. It is siding with God against sin. The John the Baptist saw no difference between repentance and belief, and neither did Christ, "From then on Jesus began to preach, 'Repent, because the kingdom of heaven has come near!'" (Mat 4:17 CSBO) and "No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all perish as well!" (Luk 13:5 CSBO). Repentance is the practical application of belief. Moreover, just to clarify, Hebrews 6:1 is not deprecating repentance. Quite the opposite. Hebrews is saying that "repentance from dead works, faith in God, teaching about ritual washings, laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment" is the "foundation" of the Christian Faith that you are already expected to understand.
      > Further, if repentance is a requirement for salvation, would a turning from sin (I.e. keeping the law, since sin is transgression of the law) for salvation (not sanctification) thus create a works-based, legalistic gospel?
      That's the wrong way of looking at repentance. Repentance is not a work. Sin is an act--it is a work. You earn wages for doing works, which is why "... the wages of sin is death...." (Rom 6:23 CSBO) You have to do acts whether of deed, mind, or volition in order to sin. You have to kill (or hate) your brother to commit the sin of murder. To repent from murder, just don't do that anymore. To repent from theft, stop stealing. So repentance is not a work (or an act of any kind), but a cessation of works. That is in no way a works-based gospel. For even the Apostle Paul wrote "The thief must no longer steal. Instead, he must do honest work with his own hands, so that he has something to share with anyone in need." (Eph 4:28 CSBO)
      But the Law is more than just the moral law, but it is much more encompassing than that in that it includes prescriptive acts, e.g., the ritual and ceremonial laws, that are works. So strictly speaking, repentance is not synonymous with keeping the law. So then, to repent is not to do works, but to side with God against sin. And what better way to side with God against sin, than to stop doing the works of sin?
      > Thank you for all the amazing work you do, Dr. Falk!
      My pleasure!

    • @Arodri360
      @Arodri360 22 дні тому

      @@ancientegyptandthebible Thank you for the thoughtful response, Dr. Falk. I had never considered that Repentance is not a work, per se. I guess what confuses me is, if it is by Christ alone that we are saved and is the sole means for our assurance of salvation, would not turning from a sin mean that a person does not have assurance? Essentially, if someone were struggling with a particular sin (e.g., sensuality, anger, envy, etc.) despite wanting to change, would that mean that person is unsaved, although they’ve placed their full trust in Jesus Christ to save them?
      Follow up question, what would be a proper example of Galatian error, where one starts by believing they are saved by grace through faith, but is swayed toward works of the law for salvation? (Galatians 3:3)
      I really do appreciate the time you take to respond to comments; it helps tremendously with my spiritual walk.❤️
      Thank you again!

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому

      @@Arodri360 > Thank you for the thoughtful response, Dr. Falk. I had never considered that Repentance is not a work, per se. I guess what confuses me is, if it is by Christ alone that we are saved and is the sole means for our assurance of salvation, would not turning from a sin mean that a person does not have assurance?
      No, because the assurance of our salvation is in Christ's promises.
      > Essentially, if someone were struggling with a particular sin (e.g., sensuality, anger, envy, etc.) despite wanting to change, would that mean that person is unsaved, although they’ve placed their full trust in Jesus Christ to save them?
      No. But are you saying that a person struggling with a particular sin has no power at all in that situation to keep from doing those acts? What then is greater, the power of sin or the power of Christ?
      > Follow up question, what would be a proper example of Galatian error, where one starts by believing they are saved by grace through faith, but is swayed toward works of the law for salvation? (Galatians 3:3)
      A proper example of the Galatian error would be saying that one has to refrain from eating pork (dietary laws) to be saved.
      > I really do appreciate the time you take to respond to comments; it helps tremendously with my spiritual walk.
      You're welcome.

    • @Arodri360
      @Arodri360 20 днів тому

      @@ancientegyptandthebible Thank you again, Dr. Falk, for your thoughtful responses. I know it takes time to formulate these responses, so I truly do appreciate it.
      To clarify the situation of someone struggling in sin despite wanting to change, I do believe Christ has the power to help them overcome that - I am living proof of it. To be transparent, I recall a time when I struggled with certain things (I am now not struggling with these things nearly as much; praise God!) and felt unsure of my salvation or that I had somehow lost it because of those struggles. It is when I understood I already had assurance and victory that I was empowered to overcome those sins.
      - Would you define OSAS as the idea that one cannot lose salvation, per se, or would you define it differently; and how should one understand salvific assurance from a biblical perspective?

  • @knight1167
    @knight1167 13 днів тому

    You're right, but I really don't think, the evangelical church( or many other denoms) care about things about things about the faith, that can't be used in some political or social situation, where they can get a seat the world's table. I have lost all hope that the church in america( or really anywhere) either will or wants to change, and do what it was told to.

  • @jjm6010
    @jjm6010 20 днів тому

    Poking at both JBP and evangelicals.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  20 днів тому

      They aren't half as upset at me as the mainline Protestants are over this. Apparently, being irrelevant is the greater insult. 😂

  • @pigetstuck
    @pigetstuck 20 днів тому

    Is David a recent convert to another church?

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  20 днів тому +3

      No.

    • @pigetstuck
      @pigetstuck 20 днів тому

      @@ancientegyptandthebible What's your story these days?

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  20 днів тому +1

      @@pigetstuck I don't discuss my denominational leanings. It's too divisive, and it would preclude me from criticizing my own denomination when it goes off the rails. We don't play denominational favourites on this channel.

  • @MatthewChenault
    @MatthewChenault 22 дні тому

    3:25
    I wouldn’t characterize this as “evangelical,” but more “Unitarian.”
    As a member of a Southern Baptist Convention church for most of my life, I never heard this specific message within the confines of the church. Rather, the importance of living through Christ and avoiding sin was emphasized.
    The notion of accepting someone for who they are is more of a Unitarian/Non-Denominational message. I’ve heard that from many Non-Denom Christians, but hardly ever from Southern Baptists.
    This is a part of why I’ve come to the conclusion that having a denomination is important. Having a denomination brings with it a set of doctrinal beliefs and congruent teachings from the Bible.

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 22 дні тому

      It might also explain why that - even with the controversies within the SBC - the SBC remains as the largest denomination in the United States by a wide margin; what it is preaching is a genuine faith whereas many mainline churches have seen their attendance decline significantly.

    • @ramadadiver7810
      @ramadadiver7810 22 дні тому

      Not here to argue but to give a perspective..
      I am not part of any denomination because I need to have every doctrine, creed , catechism , etc, evaluated individually and supported .
      In other words, I build my theology from the ground up rather than joining a denomination and be expected to accept all their dogmas.
      I also believe being part of a denomination causes you to read Christian scripture and secondary Christian literature through a denominational lens / bias

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому

      > I wouldn’t characterize this as “evangelical,” but more “Unitarian.” As a member of a Southern Baptist Convention church for most of my life, I never heard this specific message within the confines of the church.
      Some have characterized "evangelicals" as "practical deists" and "practical unitarians." However, to be fair, Unitarians don't believe in the deity of Christ or the Trinity. And similarly, SBCs aren't the only Evangelicals out their in the wilderness. There are many, many kinds of Evangelicals that roam the landscape. Need I remind of the ABCUSA and those "other" baptists? 😉

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +1

      @@ramadadiver7810
      > I also believe being part of a denomination causes you to read Christian scripture and secondary Christian literature through a denominational lens / bias
      That's going to depend. Being part of denomination will not necessarily cause you to skew your reading of Scripture, although it can do that depending upon the person. A lot of that will depend upon what presuppositions and knowledge that you have going into a denomination.

    • @ramadadiver7810
      @ramadadiver7810 22 дні тому

      @ancientegyptandthebible
      Perhaps cause is not the right word . More susceptible..
      This doesn't mean I don't go to church, tho. I attend Church's of multiple denominations to get an array of multiple perspectives. I try to be as open minded as possible

  • @Aman-vi8ws
    @Aman-vi8ws 21 день тому

    What do you think of Dr. Kara Cooney's podcasts? She has some thoughtful but if unnecessary cussing could have been avoided. She straight up says academia now serving politics.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому +3

      Cooney is extremely political herself. She doesn't mind academia serving politics as long as it is her brand of far left politics.

    • @ramadadiver7810
      @ramadadiver7810 21 день тому +1

      ​@@ancientegyptandthebible
      Like Dan

    • @ramadadiver7810
      @ramadadiver7810 21 день тому

      @ancientegyptandthebible
      Dr Falk, that is extremely misogynist!!!
      😉

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому +3

      @@ramadadiver7810 So I keep being told by those too cowardly to engage my arguments.

  • @davidjanbaz7728
    @davidjanbaz7728 22 дні тому +1

    What Evangelicals R you speaking about???
    I have been in many different Evangelical Denominational churches, and NONE were NOT presenting repentance as THE WAY to Salvation. and being .Born Again.
    But every church and denomination needs to be evaluated as to their effectiveness in this area.
    But Holiness and personal Sanctification definitely can be emphasized more in churches.
    But in my 64 years of being a Christian ( Evangelical) i have NEVER heard that you can just SIN without consequences after you R justified: the ( O S A S meme) .
    That seems to be more Fundamentalism than Evangelical .
    The problem is Fundamentalism is part of Evangelicalism but NOT all Evangelicals like me R Fundamentalists in Hyper literalist interpretations of the Bible.
    I will say Progressive Christianity is growing and a problem as it tries to move into more Conservative Evangelical churches.
    Jordan Peterson's daughter is a Christian but he is a cultural Christian that interpretations the Bible through a psychological paradigm.
    He's religious but NOT yet a Christian like his daughter.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +3

      > What Evangelicals R you speaking about??? I have been in many different Evangelical Denominational churches, and NONE were NOT presenting repentance as THE WAY to Salvation. and being .Born Again.
      Clearly, you have not been to as many Evangelical churches in as many cities as I have been. That's the funny thing about those you know--they are often the worse statistical sample. 😉 For example, my experience with Evangelicalism differed radically between San Jose, Carson City, Chicago, Milwaukee, Houston, Liverpool, Toronto, and Vancouver. Some cities had a very high level of preaching... other cities, not so much.
      > But in my 64 years of being a Christian ( Evangelical) i have NEVER heard that you can just SIN without consequences after you R justified: the ( O S A S meme) .
      That's usually not how it works. The way this normally works is that the pastor calls people to believe in Jesus, because "he just wants to be your friend" (real words from from a real sermon I heard). And then no one ever talks about repentance.
      > That seems to be more Fundamentalism than Evangelical .
      Fundamentalism is certainly guilty of this, but it is also found in Evangelicalism (that's where I first encountered it) as well as Pentecostalism.
      > The problem is Fundamentalism is part of Evangelicalism but NOT all Evangelicals like me R Fundamentalists in Hyper literalist interpretations of the Bible.
      You can find it in a lot of places now unfortunately. It has become a systemic problem. Hence, the video.
      > I will say Progressive Christianity is growing and a problem as it tries to move into more Conservative Evangelical churches.
      A case in point.
      > Jordan Peterson's daughter is a Christian but he is a cultural Christian that interpretations the Bible through a psychological paradigm. He's religious but NOT yet a Christian like his daughter.
      There is hope for Peterson. However, the traction he has had is a symptom of a bigger problem.

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 21 день тому +1

      ​@@ancientegyptandthebibleI don't disagree with your points: each church is different and bad theology is out there.

  • @wmarkfish
    @wmarkfish 21 день тому +1

    Moses brought 10 rules for life. The Israelites made it into 613. Jesus came and brought it down to 1. Jordan Peterson raised it back up to 10 and added 2 more for his 12 rules for life.

    • @user-zs3vd5np2s
      @user-zs3vd5np2s 21 день тому +1

      You clearly haven’t read 12 rules for life. Or the Pentateuch. Or the NT.

  • @DeaconBean
    @DeaconBean 16 днів тому

    ❤❤❤🧂🧂🧂🤘🤘🤘✝️✝️✝️

  • @negativedawahilarious
    @negativedawahilarious 22 дні тому +1

    First commmeeeeeeeeent

  • @list1726
    @list1726 19 днів тому +1

    You know it's bad when a egyptologists remarks on modern Christianity

  • @daelon86
    @daelon86 21 день тому

    i don't know what churches you're going to, or what preachers you're hearing, but the only thing i hear preachers preaching about is pretty much what you're saying here: the church has gone soft on sin and doesn't iive like jesus. the church is supposedly lacking in repentance and self-sacrifice, and has grown complacent and lukewarm.
    you're not saying anything different. i will grant there are fringe churches with rainbow flags that have gone liberal, or teach universalism but by and large, that is not what churches are teaching.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому +1

      Those who watch this channel are probably not the "typical" Christian who goes to the typical church. My audience tends to be more intelligent, better read, and more interested in better spiritual nourishment than what is found on most Christian channels. This video is meant to expose you to the wider religious landscape. If you have not experienced that kind of preaching, that's fantastic. I hope you never do. However, I know it's out there because I have seen it myself.

    • @daelon86
      @daelon86 21 день тому

      ​@@ancientegyptandthebiblehow would you recommend that someone gain this view of the wider christian landscape?

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому +1

      @@daelon86 Do what I did. Look up local churches in your area and visit as many of them as you can regardless of their denomination.

  • @johnirish989
    @johnirish989 21 день тому

    How to Quit Church Without Quitting God. Why going to church today is unbiblical, inChristlike, and spiritually risky. By Martin Zender. Come out of her, my people.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  21 день тому +2

      The Ecclesia is the Body of Christ. He who has no part of the Church has no part of Christ.

  • @paradisecityX0
    @paradisecityX0 22 дні тому +1

    Evangelicals on the Right largely support the [current] Anti-Christ whereas evangelicals on the Left have synchronized with Far Leftism.
    I'd consider it a lost denomination at this point if not heretical

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +2

      I wouldn't go as far as to say Evangelicals are heretical, in the same way that wouldn't say that Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics are heretical. But that is not say that each denomination is without problems.

  • @lohikaarmeherra-1753
    @lohikaarmeherra-1753 22 дні тому

    Jordan does not commit to any religious position, so he never has to defend any position.

    • @ancientegyptandthebible
      @ancientegyptandthebible  22 дні тому +2

      He has made recent statements that lean towards Christianity. I think his thought processes on this are currently in flux.

    • @ramadadiver7810
      @ramadadiver7810 22 дні тому +3

      Petterson might be in the most dangerous spot when it comes to salvation, actually
      Petterson suspects that jesus probably was killed and rose again but that 'I don't know what that means '
      This means Peterson potentially acknowledges the central claim of Christianity but hasn't committed himself to Christ .
      I really love Pettersons' work, but that actually puts him in a really dangerous spot .

  • @thecontagiouscajun4795
    @thecontagiouscajun4795 22 дні тому +2

    I love Jordan, and listen him and guests regularly. His Biblical understanding and application in my opinion are far more useful than that of theologians who can’t agree on anything.
    I don’t think it’s simply that evangelicalism has failed. I think it’s the elites in the church here in the west that have completely failed.
    I think it’s possible that God raised up Jordan Peterson to shame the church. The man has filled more empty pews than anyone in the last 200 years. And yet the man remains an atheist who wakes up and looks into the eyes of a miracle every morning.
    The real meat isn’t deep theologies that few agree upon. It’s fixing yourself and living a life that is good. And that’s exactly what Jordan Peterson is about.
    Sad to hear you care little what Jordan says.