@@ChongTeeLim Already have all your 17 vids in my DBZF playlist. Will be working my way through them. Quick question , can I super when they hit the ground at the end of the first combo you showed. I was only able to do the very last part of the combo after the delay once so far , so couldn’t tell if I get the option to add in a super at the end or if I have to replace j236M w/ the super if I want it
Thank you for adding it into your Playlist, that means a lot to me!@@SurviveWasTakenWith regards to your question, after Air Second Gear or j236M, you can buffer input your super (just as the enemy touches the ground) to do a super. Endgame which is 236R1 (L+M) or 236R2 (H+S) both works. Timing for 236R1(L+M) is usually a little tighter so just buffer it slightly early to prevent whiffing. Good lucky practising the Bread&Butter combos and hopefully you could master the combos soon 😀 😊
Gotcha , one last question , idk if I’m misreading the inputs but at the end of the first BNB , it’s looks like after SD jLLS.2H (jc) instead of going for jL (d)L.2H.S.j236M you just go into S.j236M
@fernandoarias2061 Hi Fernandoarias2061, did u try it with the bigger characters? Try and do it part by part - nail the superdash first. And remember, slightly buffer the jH input right as the 3rd pair or jS hits, it will bring your 17 to the ground abit faster
@denzopaolopalgue9890 Hey the first combo is good for beginners! It just take a bit of time to get the muscle memory in - try it out, practise and soon it will be bread and butter for you :) I will give u notations later
Since you are just starting out, please let me give you the annotations for Android 17's simple BnB Combo guide (First combo). For the unscaled version (Medium, M starter); Air Combos - j(L/M/H/S) Jump Cancel - (jc) or (9) Dash Cancel - (66) Super Dash - (SD) Delay - (d) Sliding Knockdown - (SKD) Hard knockdown - (HKD) Soft Knockdown - (KD) BnB Combo (SKD) 2M.5M (jc) jLLS.2H (SD) jLLS.2H (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S.j236M BnB Rejump Combo (SKD) 5M.2M.3H.5H (d) SD (66) jS.H 5M (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S (SD) jLLS.2H.LLS.j236M For BnB Combo - apart from getting used to j2H before jS, the hardest part is likely the last few buttons before the j236M. For a scaled combo (not M or H starters), you can simply by doing jLL.S.j236M instead of jL(d)L.2H.S.j236M at the end. However, if you want to maximise damage and make the combo look better, just make sure that you delay the 2nd jL button so that Android 17 will "float" higher than the opponent before your j2H. To explain this a bit better, I will need to explain a little on how Auto-combo works. In the air, when you press jLL, the opponent characters would be automatically floated slightly higher than your character (A17 in this case). If you were to input j2H right after executing jLL normally without delays, the jS will not connect. However, when you delay (d) your 2nd jL, your character would "float" slightly higher relative to your opponent character. After your delay your second jL, input j2H normally and your jS would connect. This applies to the first part of the air inputs for the BnB Rejump Combo too. For BnB Rejump Combo - getting the timing right can be a little more tricky. However, with sufficient practice, it can be ingrained into your muscle memory. To start off, choose a slightly bigger sized character like Cell or Gogeta. Getting the timing and muscle memory is important in Combo execution so in my opinion, it is better to start off with something simpler and then moving down the size roster. Next, the first hard part to nail down is the delay (d) right before the SD. After 5H, let the opponent character fly slightly past mid-way across the screen before pressing your SD. If your timing is right, it will make your next step easier. Executing SD too early, will result in your A17 and opponent colliding too high in the air, executing it too late is usually less of an issue but (i) the SD may not connect (ii) not sure if combo would work on all characters. Once your SD collides, input Dash cancel or (66) and input jS right away. The second hard part to nail is the dash Cancel and whiff j2H right after jS. A17 jS would hit in 3 Pairs of Ki-Blast (Note: Each jS is 2 Ki-blast - when you hold jS, it will fire Three Pairs of Ki-blast, which is technically 6 hits). As the 3rd Pair of Ki-blast (jS) is hitting, buffer the jH input. the jH input would whiff and allow A17 to land faster, making A17 land earlier. Once A17 lands, you can input 5M and if the timing is right, your 5M would connect and the rest are much easier! The rest are similar to the first BnB combo, so I wouldn't elaborate too much. During my practice, I cue my jH input as the 3rd Pair of Fireball hits - before my muscle memory sets in, this was extremely helpful in allow me to do the whiff jH early enough but still give me sufficient reaction time to connect the 5M button after. I know a lot of these doesn't sound easy in words, but I promise you that once you are able to execute your rejumps combo successfully, it would be so satisfying for you! Doing everything all at once can be a bit difficult, but if you are new to the game, I suggest that you break them down to parts. Nail the first delay SD first, then nail the Jump cancel Ki-blast input (66)jS. Once these two are down, focus on whiffing the jS.H such that your A17 is low enough and lastly, connect the 5M. Try and spend more time reviewing your combos in slow-mo if possible and watch/re-watch this guide's slow-mo portion again and again. I am sure that with sufficient practice, you will get even better than me! I have currently successfully landed a few other A17 corner double rejump combos and A17 rejump combo for tiny characters (like GT Goku and Krillin). When I have more time, I would love to share the breakdown on how you could execute them too! (T^T) All the best MVP and Good Luck!!!
Hey @supremenigel694 and @ezewsx, I know this combo can be hard but it would be so satisfying once you are able to execute them successfully! Please allow me to break them down for you :) BnB Combo (SKD) 2M.5M (jc) jLLS.2H (SD) jLLS.2H (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S.j236M BnB Rejump Combo (SKD) 5M.2M.3H.5H (d) SD (66) jS.H 5M (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S (SD) jLLS.2H.LLS.j236M For BnB Rejump Combo - getting the timing right can be a little more tricky. However, with sufficient practice, it can be ingrained into your muscle memory. To start off, choose a slightly bigger sized character like Cell or Gogeta. Getting the timing and muscle memory is important in Combo execution so in my opinion, it is better to start off with something simpler and then moving down the size roster. Next, the first hard part to nail down is the delay (d) right before the SD. After 5H, let the opponent character fly slightly past mid-way across the screen before pressing your SD. If your timing is right, it will make your next step easier. Executing SD too early, will result in your A17 and opponent colliding too high in the air, executing it too late is usually less of an issue but (i) the SD may not connect (ii) not sure if combo would work on all characters. Once your SD collides, input Dash cancel or (66) and input jS right away. The second hard part to nail is the dash Cancel and whiff j2H right after jS. A17 jS would hit in 3 Pairs of Ki-Blast (Note: Each jS is 2 Ki-blast - when you hold jS, it will fire Three Pairs of Ki-blast, which is technically 6 hits). As the 3rd Pair of Ki-blast (jS) is hitting, buffer the jH input. the jH input would whiff and allow A17 to land faster, making A17 land earlier. Once A17 lands, you can input 5M and if the timing is right, your 5M would connect and the rest are much easier! The rest are similar to the first BnB combo, so I wouldn't elaborate too much. During my practice, I cue my jH input as the 3rd Pair of Fireball hits - before my muscle memory sets in, this was extremely helpful in allow me to do the whiff jH early enough but still give me sufficient reaction time to connect the 5M button after. I know a lot of these doesn't sound easy in words, but I promise you that once you are able to execute your rejumps combo successfully, it would be so satisfying for you! Doing everything all at once can be a bit difficult, but if you are new to the game, I suggest that you break them down to parts. Nail the first delay SD first, then nail the Jump cancel Ki-blast input (66)jS. Once these two are down, focus on whiffing the jS.H such that your A17 is low enough and lastly, connect the 5M. Try and spend more time reviewing your combos in slow-mo if possible and watch/re-watch this guide's slow-mo portion again and again. I am sure that with sufficient practice, you will get even better than me! I have currently successfully landed a few other A17 corner double rejump combos and A17 rejump combo for tiny characters (like GT Goku and Krillin). When I have more time, I would love to share the breakdown on how you could execute them too! (T^T) All the best MVP and Good Luck!!!
@ezewsx No problem! I am always happy to help! I also took quite a bit of time figuring it out so I hope I can save you some time eventually. I believe everyone has their own way of "anticipate" and "time" their moves, but with the basic concepts and your own observation, I am sure you will be able to nail it eventually. All in all, I think it's good to separate one combo into parts and work them out progressively. Over-doing it might cause you to mash too much too, so do take breaks if you're done for the day. When you come back again, your body will know how to do it better. Gambatte!
Great work , just picked the game up and he's my main so this guide will be useful.
Glad I could help! If you want the more advanced combos, you could check out the latest Android 17 reiump video on my channel!
@@ChongTeeLim Already have all your 17 vids in my DBZF playlist. Will be working my way through them. Quick question , can I super when they hit the ground at the end of the first combo you showed. I was only able to do the very last part of the combo after the delay once so far , so couldn’t tell if I get the option to add in a super at the end or if I have to replace j236M w/ the super if I want it
Thank you for adding it into your Playlist, that means a lot to me!@@SurviveWasTakenWith regards to your question, after Air Second Gear or j236M, you can buffer input your super (just as the enemy touches the ground) to do a super. Endgame which is 236R1 (L+M) or 236R2 (H+S) both works. Timing for 236R1(L+M) is usually a little tighter so just buffer it slightly early to prevent whiffing. Good lucky practising the Bread&Butter combos and hopefully you could master the combos soon 😀 😊
basically input it just as it touches the ground (or slightly before it touches :) )@@SurviveWasTaken
Gotcha , one last question , idk if I’m misreading the inputs but at the end of the first BNB , it’s looks like after SD jLLS.2H (jc) instead of going for jL (d)L.2H.S.j236M you just go into S.j236M
All i needed to know os that you can hold js and it will do the work for you. Hold for 3 ki blasts worth then jh cancel.
@@josephchase9609 Yeap!
You can whiff the jH cancel as the 3rd Pair of Ki-Blast hits. That's usually how i cue it!
Thank you
@@AdhielSutcliff you're welcome!
Es jodidamente difícil ese maldito rejump, llevo horas intentándolo qué rabia
@fernandoarias2061 Hi Fernandoarias2061, did u try it with the bigger characters? Try and do it part by part - nail the superdash first. And remember, slightly buffer the jH input right as the 3rd pair or jS hits, it will bring your 17 to the ground abit faster
Hello nice guide! This is stevensensei. We played on steam
Thanks Steven! Always great to have u around!
New to the game, can you give me the combo notations? Also, is this combo good for beginners?
@denzopaolopalgue9890 Hey the first combo is good for beginners! It just take a bit of time to get the muscle memory in - try it out, practise and soon it will be bread and butter for you :) I will give u notations later
Since you are just starting out, please let me give you the annotations for Android 17's simple BnB Combo guide (First combo). For the unscaled version (Medium, M starter);
Air Combos - j(L/M/H/S)
Jump Cancel - (jc) or (9)
Dash Cancel - (66)
Super Dash - (SD)
Delay - (d)
Sliding Knockdown - (SKD)
Hard knockdown - (HKD)
Soft Knockdown - (KD)
BnB Combo (SKD)
2M.5M (jc) jLLS.2H (SD) jLLS.2H (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S.j236M
BnB Rejump Combo (SKD)
5M.2M.3H.5H (d) SD (66) jS.H 5M (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S (SD) jLLS.2H.LLS.j236M
For BnB Combo - apart from getting used to j2H before jS, the hardest part is likely the last few buttons before the j236M. For a scaled combo (not M or H starters), you can simply by doing jLL.S.j236M instead of jL(d)L.2H.S.j236M at the end. However, if you want to maximise damage and make the combo look better, just make sure that you delay the 2nd jL button so that Android 17 will "float" higher than the opponent before your j2H.
To explain this a bit better, I will need to explain a little on how Auto-combo works. In the air, when you press jLL, the opponent characters would be automatically floated slightly higher than your character (A17 in this case). If you were to input j2H right after executing jLL normally without delays, the jS will not connect.
However, when you delay (d) your 2nd jL, your character would "float" slightly higher relative to your opponent character. After your delay your second jL, input j2H normally and your jS would connect.
This applies to the first part of the air inputs for the BnB Rejump Combo too.
For BnB Rejump Combo - getting the timing right can be a little more tricky. However, with sufficient practice, it can be ingrained into your muscle memory. To start off, choose a slightly bigger sized character like Cell or Gogeta. Getting the timing and muscle memory is important in Combo execution so in my opinion, it is better to start off with something simpler and then moving down the size roster.
Next, the first hard part to nail down is the delay (d) right before the SD. After 5H, let the opponent character fly slightly past mid-way across the screen before pressing your SD. If your timing is right, it will make your next step easier.
Executing SD too early, will result in your A17 and opponent colliding too high in the air, executing it too late is usually less of an issue but (i) the SD may not connect (ii) not sure if combo would work on all characters.
Once your SD collides, input Dash cancel or (66) and input jS right away.
The second hard part to nail is the dash Cancel and whiff j2H right after jS.
A17 jS would hit in 3 Pairs of Ki-Blast (Note: Each jS is 2 Ki-blast - when you hold jS, it will fire Three Pairs of Ki-blast, which is technically 6 hits). As the 3rd Pair of Ki-blast (jS) is hitting, buffer the jH input. the jH input would whiff and allow A17 to land faster, making A17 land earlier.
Once A17 lands, you can input 5M and if the timing is right, your 5M would connect and the rest are much easier! The rest are similar to the first BnB combo, so I wouldn't elaborate too much.
During my practice, I cue my jH input as the 3rd Pair of Fireball hits - before my muscle memory sets in, this was extremely helpful in allow me to do the whiff jH early enough but still give me sufficient reaction time to connect the 5M button after.
I know a lot of these doesn't sound easy in words, but I promise you that once you are able to execute your rejumps combo successfully, it would be so satisfying for you! Doing everything all at once can be a bit difficult, but if you are new to the game, I suggest that you break them down to parts. Nail the first delay SD first, then nail the Jump cancel Ki-blast input (66)jS. Once these two are down, focus on whiffing the jS.H such that your A17 is low enough and lastly, connect the 5M.
Try and spend more time reviewing your combos in slow-mo if possible and watch/re-watch this guide's slow-mo portion again and again. I am sure that with sufficient practice, you will get even better than me!
I have currently successfully landed a few other A17 corner double rejump combos and A17 rejump combo for tiny characters (like GT Goku and Krillin). When I have more time, I would love to share the breakdown on how you could execute them too! (T^T)
All the best MVP and Good Luck!!!
How do you do the rejump into S and than heavy cancel, really hard to do
Same problem here, seems easy to do but it doesn't
Hey @supremenigel694 and @ezewsx, I know this combo can be hard but it would be so satisfying once you are able to execute them successfully! Please allow me to break them down for you :)
BnB Combo (SKD)
2M.5M (jc) jLLS.2H (SD) jLLS.2H (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S.j236M
BnB Rejump Combo (SKD)
5M.2M.3H.5H (d) SD (66) jS.H 5M (jc) jL(d)L.2H.S (SD) jLLS.2H.LLS.j236M
For BnB Rejump Combo - getting the timing right can be a little more tricky. However, with sufficient practice, it can be ingrained into your muscle memory. To start off, choose a slightly bigger sized character like Cell or Gogeta. Getting the timing and muscle memory is important in Combo execution so in my opinion, it is better to start off with something simpler and then moving down the size roster.
Next, the first hard part to nail down is the delay (d) right before the SD. After 5H, let the opponent character fly slightly past mid-way across the screen before pressing your SD. If your timing is right, it will make your next step easier.
Executing SD too early, will result in your A17 and opponent colliding too high in the air, executing it too late is usually less of an issue but (i) the SD may not connect (ii) not sure if combo would work on all characters.
Once your SD collides, input Dash cancel or (66) and input jS right away.
The second hard part to nail is the dash Cancel and whiff j2H right after jS.
A17 jS would hit in 3 Pairs of Ki-Blast (Note: Each jS is 2 Ki-blast - when you hold jS, it will fire Three Pairs of Ki-blast, which is technically 6 hits). As the 3rd Pair of Ki-blast (jS) is hitting, buffer the jH input. the jH input would whiff and allow A17 to land faster, making A17 land earlier.
Once A17 lands, you can input 5M and if the timing is right, your 5M would connect and the rest are much easier! The rest are similar to the first BnB combo, so I wouldn't elaborate too much.
During my practice, I cue my jH input as the 3rd Pair of Fireball hits - before my muscle memory sets in, this was extremely helpful in allow me to do the whiff jH early enough but still give me sufficient reaction time to connect the 5M button after.
I know a lot of these doesn't sound easy in words, but I promise you that once you are able to execute your rejumps combo successfully, it would be so satisfying for you! Doing everything all at once can be a bit difficult, but if you are new to the game, I suggest that you break them down to parts. Nail the first delay SD first, then nail the Jump cancel Ki-blast input (66)jS. Once these two are down, focus on whiffing the jS.H such that your A17 is low enough and lastly, connect the 5M.
Try and spend more time reviewing your combos in slow-mo if possible and watch/re-watch this guide's slow-mo portion again and again. I am sure that with sufficient practice, you will get even better than me!
I have currently successfully landed a few other A17 corner double rejump combos and A17 rejump combo for tiny characters (like GT Goku and Krillin). When I have more time, I would love to share the breakdown on how you could execute them too! (T^T)
All the best MVP and Good Luck!!!
@@ChongTeeLim yoooo man!!! thanks for taking the time to explain! much appreciate!! l'll definitely practice this!!!
@ezewsx No problem! I am always happy to help! I also took quite a bit of time figuring it out so I hope I can save you some time eventually. I believe everyone has their own way of "anticipate" and "time" their moves, but with the basic concepts and your own observation, I am sure you will be able to nail it eventually. All in all, I think it's good to separate one combo into parts and work them out progressively. Over-doing it might cause you to mash too much too, so do take breaks if you're done for the day. When you come back again, your body will know how to do it better. Gambatte!
You said this works on most small and med sized characters. Who does this not work on?