How Hard Can You Ride E-Bikes? | Shredding EMTBs At The Bike Park
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Neil and Blake have got hold of a Canyon Torque:ON and a new Orbea Rise to see how they handle some of the biggest jumps in our neck of the woods! We headed to the Dirt Farm near Abergavenny in Wales to put them through their paces on the fast trails and over the various jumps.
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If you had an E-bike would you predominantly ride it to lap the jump lines or would you do longer, epic adventures on it? 🤔
I want trails built for what an e-bike is capable of at the limit. Can't wait to see the future of e-biking. There is almost no terrain limitation anymore, it's all fun if the trail design is good. Places no longer need to rely on having hills suited for descending to be a destination. This sport is going to evolve in an amazing direction.
I have the orbea Blake does on this video, and i do both on it really I live right next to the cannock chase trails so not so many jump lines less your looking for them or going out your way to find them ! What I suppose is an adventure on its own but I love it could never go back to my hardtail or full sus after the fun I've had on my rise
I wouldn’t ride it, just flex on my friends
@@teamdoa better remove your speed limiter since most ebikes top out at 15mph
Both. 😀👍
E-bikes on GMBN!! 🤯
You didn't see anything!😉😅
Love my full fat Turbo Levo - put 5000km on Vermont rooty rocky trails with zero problems. Enables me to ride twice as much with half the pain (older rider)
Love my ebike. Been riding one since 2016 & I'd say it's the best invention since the pneumatic tyre
And here I am riding a ~40KG Himiway Cobra Pro. It's an absolute monster both in weight and power, just not quite as nimble but has so much power -- I haven't found something I can't climb with a bit of momentum.
Probably the best video you guys have made shredding and on ebikes
damn, im 38 in a couple of months and never jumped a bike..watching this makes me want to learn!
Just do it.
I'm 42 and rode bike for the longest part of my life but didnt jump one either...
Getting a capable bike next week and pumped to get it out :)
40 and started jumps/double blacks this year, its good! However get as much body armor as you can afford.
@@jayvkman Yes. I'm 40 and the jumping doesn't scare me. Riding down gnarly, steep stuff doesn't scare me. I want to learn all of that. I'm just too old to fall. 😆
Earlier this year I had a crash on a simple jump, somehow DIDN'T break my collarbone and was sore for days. Combine that with the high heat (over 100f basically all summer) and I haven't ridden much, so my confidence is low. But I definitely want to get back to working on my jumps.
@@dvs620 falling is inevitable. At this age healing takes forever, my wrist is still messed up from a crash in June. Maximizing time on the bike is key, so add padding everywhere to avoid time off + boost confidence. Time is the one thing you can’t get more of ;)
They should do a diy bafang ebike build and compare it to all in one. it would be intresting to see which pulls ahead with power etc.
wish my ebike had full sus, but i still send it down some decent trails. i would love that Orbea!
Agarro in the back, I think I should try it...
Dirt farm looks a lot like Black mountain?🤔 got a Kenevo SL with a few upgrades, factory 38, AXS X01, Hope tech 4-V4’s absolutely love it!🥰 on the limit of what you want to throw on an uplift at Bike park Wales etc ideally I would get another bike for that sort of stuff! But this bike does everything!👌🏻
That’s because dirt farm is black mountain
Blake 🎉
Can hubmotor bikes do jumps?
I would think that they would not last much of that abuse. My friend had a similar kit and it did perform but it started failing after 5 months. This was in Oklahoma on very rough and steep terrain. Not the candyassed groomed trails you blokes were rocking.
Great to see the a-hole purists getting riled up.... doubt many of them know the input most of the GMBN guys have had on EMBN in the last few years, all brilliant....keep up the good work folks... Even Si Richardson did The Slab on an e-gravel bike- oh yes he was absolutely f***ed at the top but there's the proof that you still can get a massive workout but get up things all you "real" mountain biking gods out there could never even contemplate....
i love the way these bods alienate anyone over the age of 15 by the way they act...🤣😂🤣
Why is there Ebike content on GMBN?
GMBN is for all bikes! 🙌
Their only a bit heavier and a bit harder to move but other than that they still feel like a normal mtb
We agree! Well put! 👊
No pedaling required. One less element to worry about. One less element to tire you out.
so you have never ridden one then? you have to pedal- the motor only assist you. The versions with throttles are generally not allowed in the EU or are treated as motorbikes
😂 tell you what, you come up here to Scotland, I will rent out an e-bike for you and take you one one of my favourite rides, see how tired out you are by the end….
just get on a motorcycle and get over it..
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@@gmbn I don't like how this is going... for me is like putting a motor on a surfboard.. MTB is losing it's natural thing.. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I feel about e-bikes.
But they are completely different things?….
My mates have e bikes but I don't have the budget. I've just got to stay really fit
Don't worry they're all lazy c**ts and you're not.
Just sell one of your kidneys!
That's a great motivation to stay fit! 😅
Nah, show em up. When they're a bit less knackered at the end of a sesh, just know it's cost them a fortune, and has taken much less skill. You're the better rider for not being a girl about it. 😂
Same here, budget doesn't allow for it just yet. They will eventually run out of battery, unless you're going to ride like my mate Gary who switches his off and rides it like a normal bike until he needs the motor. He always says though that I am definitely getting all the exercise. 😜👍
Despite ridiculous hate for e-bikes from some ‘purists ‘ yawn…..as a guy with rapidly deteriorating knees and lower back I’m strongly considering an e-bike for my next purchase, I have to stay off the really rough stuff but can still enjoy a jump line or longer smoother trails. I’d rather enjoy a full day than dick measure on the way up. It was exactly the same conversation 20 years ago when full suspension came out, ‘all you need is a hard tail’ blah blah. It’s just another form of progression for those that want it surely?
you should swap the bikes during the video. Great Vid. I moved from Full powered (norco range c2) to a lightweight (orbea rise m10). The Orbea is way more fun to ride and so much easier to put in the back of my van :) - I put a 160 fork and it feels much better.
my 1st bike is a norco range A1 vlt i struggle to clear some jumps and others i just dont think i can with the speed i have not sure if its just my abilty but hahah :)
Most jumps you wanna be way quicker than 25kph to hit, so unless it’s steep eBikes suck for hitting jumps through the limiter, speed these guys are going these are just heavy bikes on the down
All these clowns hating on ebikes have either never tried one or can't afford one and they're letting their jealousy show.
My Evil custom dream build cost more than some e bikes, Ive had a go on an ebike, I will never own one!
I have the scott patron 900 since last week and I'm absolutely in love with it. I do +50 miles every single day now and I am still able to work out as well if I put it in eco or turn the engine off. It's an absolute beast and perfect overall bike to hit the trails and commute to work.
Jus goes to show the extra weight means virtually NOTHING! For Gods sake a Motocross bike weighs 250 lbs they dont seem to have ANY issue getting air. I say get the Ebike with the fastest motor that way u can rip thru trails, hit jumps like dirt bikes and get back up the hill as fast as possible.
68y.o. with asthma. Went from Ripley to to Specialized Turbo Levo. Changed all the suspension to Fox 38 etc. Now i go for 2-3 hours at a time ,lost 10 lbs,jumping stuff too big for me on the Ripley.
Just picked up the Marin Alpine Trail E1 and love it so far! Was worried about the weight, but my KTM weighs about 250 pounds, and I throw that around a bit, so no worries there. It’s got great suspension, and I love the mullet setup. I’m keeping my Ghost as well, so I’ve got options, but first rode out I did about 17 miles and looped a long uphill section with some sweet single track downhill!
Back from winterberg with Specialized turbo levo SL, Even if I am no pro like you guys, jumps are pretty easy and incredibly stables, and brings more confidence. I don’t know how to wip or so just to bring some context 😁
That back flip Blake did with Neil coming up the jump behind him looked absolutely epic! The whips were totally on point for both the boys. I can honestly say that riding analogue vs my mates who are on e bikes, it really is night and day. The e bikes win but what bike should a big fat 176cm tall 126kg bloke be buying? What should the big heavy riders be looking for?
I am assuming you are in Europe... I would recommend a Dengfu e10(bafang m600, m510 motors) , and dengfu e22(bafang m620 motor, chews more battery but stronger more reliable motor, mostly on climbs with full torque / using the optional throttle) almost identical frames other than motor mounts! I personally ride e10 and it is AMAZING. Great prices too for a way more capable bike than 90% of the market.
I take the long epic adventure trip... To the jump line, boost the thing in the Air have Fun 🙌🏻👍🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻and at the end of the day hopefully still enough battery for the way home 🤣😉
Love it! Sounds like a sick day out (only if the battery lasts)! 😂
I got hit by a car on my ecotric super last week and its fine unlike myself.
After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.
Hi, what fork is on the rise? Fox 34 140mm right?
So English....having a cup of tea after shredding downhill :)
Love my Orbea wild! With the longer bike, I can jump better and it's more stable bombing down stuff. Love the longer xc adventures also.
I’d love to try an ebike on a milder trail. I’m afraid that the assistance would push the speeds out of comfort zome
Moto cuts out at 25 kph so it doesn't scare you that much. And you still have brakes ;)
I'm lazy enough and should never be allowed an e-bike. Maybe in 30 years when my knees are shot I'll consider one until then I'll keep pedaling
Nice one guys You should also try the Trek Fuel EXe while you’re at it. I’m loving mine!
That's a great bike! Thanks for watching!
me: was this video shot in the uk?
sound track:
me: gotcha
I also ride a canyon torque on. However mine doesn't sale through the air like Neil's torque does. Maybe I'll get in touch with canyon about this 🤔.
Hmmmmmm 😂😉
My only issue with ebikes is the battery range as 90% of my rides are over 50 miles and can't justify buying an extra battery. Once they can do at least 80 miles then I'd be interested in an ebike. Good video though 👌 👍
well it is not a car- you can just ride the remaining extra miles without assistance... besides that the range of the bosch system with the 750wh battery is quoted at 85 miles
I do 110km per 750 watt battery. And this is an enduro bike with knobblies
Can we get more cheap bike challenges? Like top gear, various different challenges and or events presenters have to do which they don't know about and they've got to guess the right bike for the job?
Great video 😃😃❤ and I'm still riding an Amish bike 😬😬 but who knows in a few years 🤔🤔
Wow this canyon is fire 🔥 so is the Orbea 😍
I own Canyon hardtrail
And absolutely love it
Great video guys !
Yeah, both bikes look sooooo good!!🔥 Thank you 🙌
@@gmbn sadly my hardtrail isn't e bike
If you guys ever get bored of any of them bikes let me know 😉
Gmbn is simply amazing 👏
Would love to try or just roll the dice and buy a Rise. My legs have always been my biggest weakness that exercise can only help so much (due to a couple physiological issues). Just turned 50 (and got a hopper ramp as a gift), so why not?
Do it! I just got the Rise a month ago and I've done more trail miles since then thanI had in the previous 12 months on my regular MTB.
@@dthree4113 If I had the $$$ I'd do it in a heartbeat. Been a summer of finally doing long-delayed house projects. And, of course, I can blame my kids for insisting on food and shelter. Good to hear you dig it, though. I've only seen reviews on here to go by.
I'm no good at jumping, I'm 50 and feeling it, I like riding my MTB for some exercise and countryside. I wouldn't feel like I'd been for a ride if my bike had a motor. Probably just stuck in my ways, but it was a good video seeing you guys throw an EMTB around.
Do you do loops with over 100km trough the countryside up and down on an evening? That’s Sport on an ebike. It never gets easier you just drive faster.
You should hire one for a couple of hours and you will be surprised I was sceptical at first until I tried my mates one, a week later I brought one lol, now I don't use my MTB
Now you have done it! It's like putting a Roadie on a mtb lines have crossed blurred maybe even removed what were you thinking
Wrong song!
It should be „Jump around“ House of Pain
Roswita agreed
Haha! Maybe you're right! 😂
@@gmbn just turn on the song with your loudest BassBox, and start watching your video again 😎😂😂
But be careful what’s around you, you might have to jump around 🙋🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️👍
Insane .......shared on our group:) thank u:)
Almost seems like at least half the riders at trail centres like the FOD, are on ebikes now. Certainly, if you see a group of riders, they’re almost certainly all on them.
I’m not in the market for one as of yet, but if I was, it would be one of the lighter (half fat) models.
Im building a DIY ebike... Can't wait to try it out on the hill's...👍
I love my rise I needed a light enough bike so I could carry it up to my 3rd floor flat. I can carry this easy and feels so amazing on the trail. Still keeping my acoustic full suss tho. Great vid. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Ngl after a Month on my Patron 920 Eride bike, im Felling so good going up the and down mountains, even feeling more fit than before i guess its more motivating to
Cycling Mtb or road is supposed to be about using your own power to get about. E bikes good for the old, infirm , obese I guess.
lol, haters gonna hate. go eat some dirt
Love the video! Be good to see you guys review the pole voima 190 travel front and back 👀
Epic Skills guys!! Go both showed it’s very possible. I have a new Focus Sam2 6.9, loving it 🫶😎🤙
Would love myself an ebike, but prices are asinine, normal bike prices are whack, but what is happening with ebikes is just disgusting.
Been considering an eBike since I got my big rig enduro but the pricing for the spec has always held me back. That said, seriously considering the Canyon Torque: ON this year as the full Fox factory setup with X01/RSC for under £6K is mighty tempting
Transition is coming out with a new e-bike called the Relay sometime in the Spring. It will have 160/170 suspension travel and is light weight for an e-bike. It almost looks like a Sentinel with a motor. They have some videos of their folks putting some prototypes to the test on their website.
That flip was rad!
The only downside ive really found with my eeb is there is a lot of really ridiculously steep trails in my area and once you drop in there is no stopping with the extra weight. Also im more comfortable trying a sketchy drop on a normal bike then come back with the eeb.
I think E- bikes are gonna kill themselves. They will get better and more powerful until a ministry of transport or department of transportation classifies them as a motorcycle. Or at least up to a certain power level.
all the e-bikes you see here or on EMBN are actually pedelecs- depending on the country (but similar in most EU countries) they are regulated to 250w output and may only assist your manual input (no throttle). Only the torque and responsiveness differs. Those rules got updated from the existing laws for gas-engine assisted bicycles. The only think killing e-bikes at the moment is the prize- they have come close to actual motorbikes...
but how about hardtail e-bikes? :o
Tom Cardy king of the e bikes
2022 Kenevo for me, came from an enduro and will never look back 😘
E bikes do look much heavier but I bet there nice for climbing
Great content guys, I watch both gmbn & embn.
Exciting times for mountain bikers in general, lots of innovations muscular and electric. 👍
100% ! Thanks for watching EMBN (the better channel)! 😉
We totally agree (not with EMBN)! Thanks so much for the support!
@@embn 😅
It’s great to see the Orbea been chucked around like that. I’ve got a Rise M10 and it’s a great bike. Been to the bike park a few times, but never jumped it anything like this. Interesting to see that the wheels had been changed. One think that’s currently bothering me on my Rise is the wheels. They sometimes give the impression you’ve got a flat tyre as they squirm around. Did you change them because you didn’t think the stock ones were up to the task? What is the spec on the ones you are running?
I put the 27.5 rear Wheel out of my Trek in my M10 since i destroyed the rim of the original Wheel in the Bikepark. I think that happened when i rode down a ~80cm "root-drop" to flat and landed on a rock. I can tell you this rim really was f*cked, i dont think they are that robust.
I am thinking about a cross country e bike
Absolute epic video! Let's go!!
Thanks Ricardo! We really appreciate the support! 👊
Do you guys reply? (Pls do)
No we don't! 😉
Still think you need to have fast Ebike lap round say Degla one E on the heavier Ebike then on the Sl see which is faster and which is more fun ??
who cares which is faster?- you can't compete in the same class and for fun it doesn't matter
Great video guys, looked great
Glad you enjoyed it! We had such a good time making this one! Cheers!
Watching you boys shred is asmr!
i love the videos but i like men better
These trails look amazing!!!!!
awesome man
Love my Orbea Rise
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I love Dirt Farm 🙌🏼. I’ve just bought the Rail 9.8XT and you guys have just put so many worries to bed for me riding eebs. Please do more of this if you could guys 🙏🏻…. Awesome video again 🙌🏼
I'm still in doubt between an analog enduro or (light) E-MTB; does it take a lot of extra effort working the bike it's way down on (intermediate) technical descends?
@@JurriaanH well I’m keeping my Mega Elite 290 should the eebz be to heavy for me to continue jumping on it! I may even throw a set of triple crown forks on but unsure how it will effect the geometry!
@@dazmtb We're in the same boat, albeit in a different type of landscape. I guess I'll just wing it with the E for trips abroad
and keep my hardtail for the regional Dutch singletracks ;-)
@@JurriaanH I wing it every time I ride 😂
Ooh
Is there any future for non e?
obviously- downhill racing doesn't need assistance; XC racing is about comparing fitness and for casual riding electric bikes are just too expensive to kill the normal bikes.
Oh. Another video on e bikes. Is this embn or gmbn channel 🙄
they used stunt doubles. lame
Why ebikes on gmbn? There is another channel for e motor bikes
Boring 😴
Hey Erin! GMBN is for all bikes! E-bikes are allowed from time to time! 😅
Good video, but I'd rather p1ss on an electric fence than get an ebike. If I want a powered bike, there's 150bhp in the garage. I may be a bit old n fat, but I'd rather earn my stripes then buy em.
Yawn.... said everyone who has never even been on one.... what walking boots do you use for your "Real" biking? Scarpa or Berghaus?? 😂
@@barriobarranco haha, good point :)
If I had an E-bike something would be terribly wrong. Please leave those monstrosities on EMBN.
hey cheapskate, go eat some dirt :P
I call them chEater bikes. Let’s face it what fun is it if you’re getting assistance up a hill. That’s part of the experience.
People still using that old chestnut 😂
Riding uphill is all part of the experience, but e-bikes are great for blasting up hills! 😉
imagine not hating your life for at least half of every trip...
What fun is it getting assistance up the hill? Have you not seen the grin on peoples faces as they power uphill?
Just wait until your 60+ and you will realise how much difference they make to the experience.
I am thinking that my next bike will be a bike. Probably a light powered one like the Treck Fuel Xe or the transition with the Fazua...
Wow, is there anything you guys can't do!? Incredible riding. You guys blow me away watching your videos. I don't think I'll never be as good as you guys.
Are they using cleats?
From the looks of it, no. Looks like normal flat pedals. Also they're doing one-footers which you wouldn't really be able to do with clipless pedals.
Blake and Neil were running flats in this video. 👍