43:49. I think we did not see Secretary Jim up until this point because we were seeing MIng in Joe's universe. He did not need a secretary around Joe. Now, that we are seeing him in his habitat , we are seeing more of his lifestyle. The other person who works with the psychic (I know who he is now) but at that time, I simply noticed the way he talked to Ming , and assumed he must have known the family for the longest or had some level of authority over Ming in some capacity because he did not speak to him with deference like Secretary Jim.
While I do not support Ming & Joe together, I do appreciate how realistic they are portraying the characters. I do not see the show focusing on the fact that Ming knocked out and tied up Joe as a big issue since this is mainly from Joe's perspective and that wasn't the biggest issue for him (not going to go into deep on that one with Joe practically being a mold on what would be considered an "Easy Target"). In my opinion Joe comes off as being able to tolerate just about anything if he marked you off as family so what hurt him most was when he was used as just a stand in for Tong b/c that undermined his fantasy view of family. And what I write next I am just talking from the view point of a friend who had a friend stuck in an abusive relationship so my experience does not translate into " this is the case for all". Joe still having feelings for Ming even after all the crap Ming did to him is a very realistic portrayal. My friend would get beat up, convince herself she was at fault and still say she loved him and didn't see herself as an abuse victim. This is why I agree with DC there should be no going back, but I have lost count how many times my friend went back. As for Ming ... judgement on growth is still pending.. he still comes across as obsessive and controlling, I personally view him still waiting after two years in hopes to get back with Joe as scary obsessive than romantic. Then for the Fight between Joe, Ming, and Sol, it was funny but was understandable. Joe = couldn't hurt anyone, Sol= trained as a stuntman, which while they are strong and limber they focus primarily on blocking attacks. When Ming and Sol fought it wasn't the normal lets swing punches, Ming literally played dirty grabbing hair and targeting weak spots. It was a cat fight that Ming got the upper hand because he wasn't playing by any rule books of if I swing a punch here you are supposed to block here. To the scrip writers credit they did make changes to fit the actor playing Ming b/c in the novel Ming actually comes from a Military family and is big/buff and mentioned to be stronger than Joe. Thanks for the reaction and your guys perspective of things.
Plus in the novel there are HUGE differences too. I'd say it's like 70-80% the same as the novel and the series. But the remaining 30-40% of it there are lots of changes. Ming in the novel is a little more toxic than the Ming in Thai version. Plus they changed what happens later on to be Person A whereas in the novel it was Person B. I don't really know why they switched A and B's roles because when you switch the roles it doesn't make any sense why they would choose A instead of B. B makes way more sense. I'm just using A and B because no spoilers! I did find it kind of amusing though that the original character names in the novel My Stand In is based off of are very similar to the names they chose for My Stand In. At least for Joe and Ming's names. Joe's name in the original is Zhou Xiang (if you pronounce it in Chinese it sounds like Joe Ch-ah-ng). Ming's name in the original is Yan Ming Xiu (if you pronounce it in Chinese it sounds like Yan Ming Shu). Wut is Cai Wei. Ming's sister's name in the novel is Yan Ming Mei. Sol's name in the novel is Lan Xi Rong. Sol's name literally is not similar at all. Oh yeah, also the little things that Joe does with Ming both in the past and present, that wasn't in the novel either. It's an added addition to the Thai version. But I prefer My Stand In in that aspect. Overall, I think My Stand In did a great job making it their own version while still holding true to the original beloved Chinese novel.
@@kiramakishima7836 I agree they did make HUGE changes in a way that still stayed faithful to the novel. One of the detailed changes like using a bat like object thing to knock Joe out b/c series Ming is weaker than novel Ming, honestly the change they did for that whole scenario made Ming a more bearable person. Like you said Ming was so toxic in the novel that if they kept it with 100% accuracy there would be nothing redeemable. I get what you mean with the switch up with Person A and Person B and also wont go in more details on my opinion as to why they possibly did that because it would be a spoiler but I am interested in how they will resolve the major family conflict with the switch up unless Person B actually has more sway than Person A which would make the whole family dynamic interesting.
@@Sangyu143and also it makes the live adaptation less predictable than the source material. Because the novel was a bit predictable. With small changes in the show they keep the audience on their toes but maintain the main plot points and essence of the story. That’s cool!
@@mabelgomes3936 I agree!!! I honestly wasn't a fan of the novel but the changes made in the show always keeps me wishing the week went by faster just to see the next episode and even inspired me to go back and re-read some parts of the novel.
It was a solid episode. I noticed the acting from all the major characters in this episode (Joe, Wut, Mom, Ming) was outstanding ... My thoughts on Sol are frankly a bit of "why? What can this character contribute here?" but I guess I'll find out in the next episodes (hopefully)... anyway, thanks for your reactions, see you again next time.
39:16. I didn't think TharnType was a good love story either 🙂. I'm glad the "gay for you" tropes are disappearing. I understand questioning one's sexuality in a comphet world, and ITSAY did that beautifully. I'm enjoying my stand in because from jump, we know it is a toxic story and it's depicted as such. And Ming is toxic in a very entertaining way: I love to hate him but at times , he's so funny. What do you mean you're making Joe sleep on the floor in his own home talking bout some "the floor suits you". 😂
I'm one of the few who DOESN'T want Ming and Joe to be endgame. How you love someone who beat yo ass and kidnapped you? You die, get a second chance at life, and you go back to the mofo who played a part in you diying?! HOW?! I get that Ming is cute and all but absolutely not! I haven't read the novel and I was told I would feel sorry for Ming, but it ain't happening. Joe needs to be by himself for a bit but unfortunately he's dickmatized.
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43:49. I think we did not see Secretary Jim up until this point because we were seeing MIng in Joe's universe. He did not need a secretary around Joe. Now, that we are seeing him in his habitat , we are seeing more of his lifestyle. The other person who works with the psychic (I know who he is now) but at that time, I simply noticed the way he talked to Ming , and assumed he must have known the family for the longest or had some level of authority over Ming in some capacity because he did not speak to him with deference like Secretary Jim.
They probably messed the entire house to find every penny they could get in the house.
While I do not support Ming & Joe together, I do appreciate how realistic they are portraying the characters. I do not see the show focusing on the fact that Ming knocked out and tied up Joe as a big issue since this is mainly from Joe's perspective and that wasn't the biggest issue for him (not going to go into deep on that one with Joe practically being a mold on what would be considered an "Easy Target"). In my opinion Joe comes off as being able to tolerate just about anything if he marked you off as family so what hurt him most was when he was used as just a stand in for Tong b/c that undermined his fantasy view of family.
And what I write next I am just talking from the view point of a friend who had a friend stuck in an abusive relationship so my experience does not translate into " this is the case for all". Joe still having feelings for Ming even after all the crap Ming did to him is a very realistic portrayal. My friend would get beat up, convince herself she was at fault and still say she loved him and didn't see herself as an abuse victim. This is why I agree with DC there should be no going back, but I have lost count how many times my friend went back.
As for Ming ... judgement on growth is still pending.. he still comes across as obsessive and controlling, I personally view him still waiting after two years in hopes to get back with Joe as scary obsessive than romantic.
Then for the Fight between Joe, Ming, and Sol, it was funny but was understandable. Joe = couldn't hurt anyone, Sol= trained as a stuntman, which while they are strong and limber they focus primarily on blocking attacks. When Ming and Sol fought it wasn't the normal lets swing punches, Ming literally played dirty grabbing hair and targeting weak spots. It was a cat fight that Ming got the upper hand because he wasn't playing by any rule books of if I swing a punch here you are supposed to block here.
To the scrip writers credit they did make changes to fit the actor playing Ming b/c in the novel Ming actually comes from a Military family and is big/buff and mentioned to be stronger than Joe.
Thanks for the reaction and your guys perspective of things.
Plus in the novel there are HUGE differences too. I'd say it's like 70-80% the same as the novel and the series. But the remaining 30-40% of it there are lots of changes. Ming in the novel is a little more toxic than the Ming in Thai version. Plus they changed what happens later on to be Person A whereas in the novel it was Person B. I don't really know why they switched A and B's roles because when you switch the roles it doesn't make any sense why they would choose A instead of B. B makes way more sense. I'm just using A and B because no spoilers!
I did find it kind of amusing though that the original character names in the novel My Stand In is based off of are very similar to the names they chose for My Stand In. At least for Joe and Ming's names. Joe's name in the original is Zhou Xiang (if you pronounce it in Chinese it sounds like Joe Ch-ah-ng). Ming's name in the original is Yan Ming Xiu (if you pronounce it in Chinese it sounds like Yan Ming Shu). Wut is Cai Wei. Ming's sister's name in the novel is Yan Ming Mei. Sol's name in the novel is Lan Xi Rong. Sol's name literally is not similar at all.
Oh yeah, also the little things that Joe does with Ming both in the past and present, that wasn't in the novel either. It's an added addition to the Thai version. But I prefer My Stand In in that aspect. Overall, I think My Stand In did a great job making it their own version while still holding true to the original beloved Chinese novel.
💯%! I couldn’t agree more
@@kiramakishima7836 I agree they did make HUGE changes in a way that still stayed faithful to the novel. One of the detailed changes like using a bat like object thing to knock Joe out b/c series Ming is weaker than novel Ming, honestly the change they did for that whole scenario made Ming a more bearable person. Like you said Ming was so toxic in the novel that if they kept it with 100% accuracy there would be nothing redeemable.
I get what you mean with the switch up with Person A and Person B and also wont go in more details on my opinion as to why they possibly did that because it would be a spoiler but I am interested in how they will resolve the major family conflict with the switch up unless Person B actually has more sway than Person A which would make the whole family dynamic interesting.
@@Sangyu143and also it makes the live adaptation less predictable than the source material. Because the novel was a bit predictable. With small changes in the show they keep the audience on their toes but maintain the main plot points and essence of the story. That’s cool!
@@mabelgomes3936 I agree!!! I honestly wasn't a fan of the novel but the changes made in the show always keeps me wishing the week went by faster just to see the next episode and even inspired me to go back and re-read some parts of the novel.
It was a solid episode. I noticed the acting from all the major characters in this episode (Joe, Wut, Mom, Ming) was outstanding ... My thoughts on Sol are frankly a bit of "why? What can this character contribute here?" but I guess I'll find out in the next episodes (hopefully)... anyway, thanks for your reactions, see you again next time.
39:16. I didn't think TharnType was a good love story either 🙂. I'm glad the "gay for you" tropes are disappearing. I understand questioning one's sexuality in a comphet world, and ITSAY did that beautifully. I'm enjoying my stand in because from jump, we know it is a toxic story and it's depicted as such. And Ming is toxic in a very entertaining way: I love to hate him but at times , he's so funny. What do you mean you're making Joe sleep on the floor in his own home talking bout some "the floor suits you". 😂
I didn't like TharnType
I'm one of the few who DOESN'T want Ming and Joe to be endgame. How you love someone who beat yo ass and kidnapped you? You die, get a second chance at life, and you go back to the mofo who played a part in you diying?! HOW?! I get that Ming is cute and all but absolutely not! I haven't read the novel and I was told I would feel sorry for Ming, but it ain't happening. Joe needs to be by himself for a bit but unfortunately he's dickmatized.
I'm assuming you'll be more desperate to find money if some asshole keeps turning over your stuff whenever they try to collect your debt 11:33 😭
Exactly, also the shame of neighbors watching them make a scene: that's why they do it. Now everybody knows you owe money.