IRO Hack N Tap Install

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024

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  • @stevenbrown3692
    @stevenbrown3692 4 роки тому +2

    I've done this. 70.000 miles now and still going Great! Still had to shim for proper pinion angle as I had really bad vibes. 3.5 in s10 bastard packs. 31's Ride is good and no vibes. Very pleased! Nicely done 👍✌🇺🇸

  • @ben8606
    @ben8606 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video! The best resource on the internet for getting this done. IRO should be paying you if they aren't already.

  • @paulstandaert5709
    @paulstandaert5709 3 роки тому +1

    I just got done doing it today. Cutting it while the engine is running and in 1st gear is definitely the ticket and pretty much guarantees a nice flat, square cut.
    The scary part was tapping it. It drilled out just fine, but maybe my tap was dull, but it was spooky as I was forcing the thing in there. Praise the LORD it didn't break.

  • @ericfaley9019
    @ericfaley9019 Рік тому +1

    I’ve done one of those on a 242 in the past. Pretty easy. Nice video. Great refresher

  • @Crash52722
    @Crash52722 7 років тому +5

    Great video! Made doing this a million times easier.

  • @flatwoodsjeepclub1938
    @flatwoodsjeepclub1938 6 років тому +1

    Great video! It's going to make the IRO Hack & Tap job much easier, only difference is mine is a 1990 Renix XJ with the 3 bolt tailshaft housing 231-J T-case. Done got the kit from IRO including the tailshaft housing and seal, rebuilt front XJ driveshaft and all needed tools.

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +1

      Flatwoods Jeep Club sweet! Ya it won't be too difficult
      Only that one extra step for the tail shaft seal to install
      You should be good to go!

    • @flatwoodsjeepclub1938
      @flatwoodsjeepclub1938 6 років тому +1

      Got it done and everything is working great!

  • @AutenBrian3
    @AutenBrian3 5 років тому +1

    Nice video. Only methodology I'd change is using a portaband to cut where I could instead of the cutoff wheel. But with the shaft spinning, I imagine the wheel works just fine on the shaft.
    Thanks for posting it up!

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  5 років тому

      Never even thought of a portaband!
      Gotta do another one next week, we’ll give it a try!

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  4 роки тому

      William Huegli portaband works with the tcase out. Much easier to handle. But we usually just use a cut-off wheel every time since removing the tcase is extra work that’s not needed. Haven’t had any issues

  • @alex_ottomano
    @alex_ottomano 8 років тому +1

    awesome im glad I found this video. Il be doing this in a few months with iron rocks kit. nice vid. One thing though you should have your axle yoke pointed straight towards the tcase now since you have a cv set up

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      Yes, the 13° we set the pinion angle at is pointing right at the tcase. With the sye installed it's perfect

  • @chiefexecutive
    @chiefexecutive 4 роки тому +1

    I think I’m going to try this, thank you for the video

  • @samiargos
    @samiargos 8 років тому +4

    i am about to fix the drive shaft problem on my 99 xj, is this method better than the other sye kits?(shorter shaft and ...)
    btw amazing video .

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому +2

      +Sam Rezaei The Hack n Tap is a budget friendly way of doing an SYE. If you can afford a true SYE and replace the output shaft and tail end of the transfer case, I'd say go that route for sure, but there will be no issues with this setup.

  • @MegaMarclar
    @MegaMarclar 2 роки тому

    this is interesting, I never considered using a front shaft for the rear, thats genius. Ive built a frankenstine zj using an 8.25 out of a liberty, has bigger ujoint than the zj/xj but thats not a big deal.

  • @christianwise6385
    @christianwise6385 4 роки тому

    BEFORE YOU TEST DRIVE !
    Double check the emergency brake cable clears the new drive shaft!!

  • @kenskens69
    @kenskens69 6 років тому +2

    you make that lock very easy ,what type of bit are you using i try to drill my and did not work

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +1

      Picapiedra 4x4 using titanium drill bits
      Constant pressure and variable speed is your friend

    • @kenskens69
      @kenskens69 6 років тому +2

      KSuspension ok i just order cobalt bit led see what happen thanks, hooo in my T case 242 i dont have to cut it , just drill

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому

      Picapiedra 4x4 we have a 242 as well
      Had to cut for the HnT Install

    • @kenskens69
      @kenskens69 6 років тому +1

      ok will cut the out put shaft and led see what happen i will need custom drive shaft put is ok thanks for the help

  • @daddy1234gm
    @daddy1234gm 8 років тому +2

    Would a driveshaft from the front take as much of a beating though?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  8 років тому +4

      Works well and w/our any major issues after some pretty crazy trails. I'd say it's a no brainier to run it. Works great!

  • @rah121760
    @rah121760 Рік тому

    Nice job on the install. Great instructions.
    Question; will this Hack ’N’ Tap work on a 2WD Cherokee?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  Рік тому

      I don’t think so

    • @rah121760
      @rah121760 Рік тому

      Thank you for your response.
      I have a ‘99 XJ 2WD Automatic with 5.5” lift. The driveshaft is pulled out of the transmission about 5/8” and now have pretty serious vibrations.
      Thinking about a slip yoke adapter (like hack n tap) with a double cardan DS. Looking for recommendations.
      Thoughts?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  Рік тому

      @@rah121760 honestly never done anything directly to a transmission like that. I’d recommend speaking to a good transmission shop and see what options are available. Wish I had a better answer for you

    • @rah121760
      @rah121760 Рік тому +1

      @@KSuspension
      Thank you for your response.
      I also reached out to Iron Off-road to get any recommendations.
      I may reach out to transmission shop as you recommended.
      Thanks again! Enjoy your videos.

  • @robgaret6446
    @robgaret6446 5 років тому +2

    Did you end up running a custom shaft? Of is that just a stock front Shaft? And if so, after years how it is holding up?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  5 років тому +1

      Robert Garrett stock front shaft in the rear, and been holding up great!
      Our front shaft actually took a dump about a month ago lol, rear one is still holding up fine.

    • @robgaret6446
      @robgaret6446 5 років тому +1

      Glad to hear this lol. I have a 97 and after 3” of lift I started getting driveline vibes. Was looking into this solution awhile ago and was curious about how to stock shaft was holding up. It’s my DD so reliability is a big thing for me lol

  • @diegojosuelopezgomez9833
    @diegojosuelopezgomez9833 Рік тому

    For how many inches maximum does it work?

  • @OFFAxisBuilds
    @OFFAxisBuilds 7 років тому +1

    awesome video. do you know if you can do this to a 95 yj?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому

      Crane 2005 don't see why not, but I do know drive shaft lengths will be different. I dont know what shafts would fit that build

  • @him333666999
    @him333666999 8 років тому +1

    do they have this for yj's? awesome video!

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      +matt hernandez I think the Hack N Tap will work for any application as long as the splines match up. I've never done it on a YJ, but I would email IRO and see what they say

    • @him333666999
      @him333666999 8 років тому +1

      Raffi Kassardjian​ that would be awesome. I very interested in that product!

  • @dezertdestroyer7782
    @dezertdestroyer7782 2 роки тому

    Mine has the three bolt tail shaft seal will this still work and do I need to cut the shaft because my driveshaft that I’m going to use seems like it will be perfect if I don’t cut the shaft and just put the yolk on there??

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  2 роки тому +1

      all Hack n Taps required hacking, hence the name. follow the measurement charts the kit comes with and you'll be golden!

  • @ninja63639
    @ninja63639 7 років тому

    A regular sye adds about 4 inches to the driveshaft length. How much does this add?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому

      Christopher Spencer not sure. Never measured. But I doubt as much as a full sye

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM 3 роки тому

    I just picked up a transfer case with one of these already on it. Is it worth me installing it?

  • @magnus5356
    @magnus5356 4 роки тому

    3/8x16 grade 8 bolt torque should be 45 FT/LB however, NOT 30!

  • @airell47
    @airell47 8 років тому

    is the output shaft harder to drill and tap being hardend metal?

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      +airell47 It's not the easiest thing in the world, but as long as you have that small pilot hole drilled to get the 5/16" bit through, it'll be much easier
      And as far as tapping it goes, just take your time and try to keep it straight. You'll get through :-)

  • @dezertdestroyer7782
    @dezertdestroyer7782 2 роки тому

    Your transfer case is different than mine I have a 231 what’s the difference for the install??

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  2 роки тому

      same install procedure, you just dont' need that seal

    • @dezertdestroyer7782
      @dezertdestroyer7782 2 роки тому

      @@KSuspension I do need that seal that’s what the yolk rides on that bushing right there on the end where the seal is

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  2 роки тому

      @@dezertdestroyer7782 the red flange in the video is for older 242's, 231's don't usually use those. depends on the tail shaft housing you currently have, IRO's website describes the differences

  • @gazkelley
    @gazkelley 7 років тому

    Fantastic video. Very helpful!
    What sort of height suspension lift would this let you run? With regards using the stock front shaft as opposed to an aftermarket one?
    Many thanks,
    Gaz.

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому +3

      I honestly haven't measured that far. I'd assume you'd be ok for about a 8" lift using this method with a stock front DS from another XJ.
      I'm sitting on a 6.5" and have plenty of travel room

    • @gazkelley
      @gazkelley 7 років тому

      KSuspension you covered everything for me there thanks. I'm looking into a 6.5" lift kit currently. I didn't want to run a transfer case drop and compromise ground clearance, so a hack and tap for my 242 is the only route I think.
      Again, many thanks.
      Gaz

  • @Revnahead957
    @Revnahead957 2 роки тому

    Do you need to "seal" the output shaft somehow for this install?

  • @Exisity
    @Exisity 7 років тому +2

    Did you change the angle of the axle with any shim or you were fine like that?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому

      Exisity worked out just fine
      No shims needed

    • @Exisity
      @Exisity 7 років тому +1

      KSuspension sweet! very motivated to get this done now thank you

  • @AMSTUNTZ
    @AMSTUNTZ 6 років тому +1

    if you only use one bolt why do they give you 9 bolts!?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +4

      Alec Milton 1 for the new yoke, 4 for the driveshaft
      And 4 for your crossmember

  • @scottcampbell2836
    @scottcampbell2836 4 роки тому

    Raffi so the yoke leaves a gap above the seal yes? I swapped my aw4 and new one is 23 spline and t case is from a liberty. I am not worried on the speedo cable as i have Nick's Renix Engine Monitor and it gives the speed after you set tire size and gear ratios. Thanks

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  4 роки тому

      Not sure what you mean by a gap. Shoot us a photo through messenger on our Facebook page if you can

    • @scottcampbell2836
      @scottcampbell2836 4 роки тому

      @@KSuspension bottom of yoke by where the rubber boot was mounted. Seems i have a liberty 231 now need a 31 spline yoke.

    • @scottcampbell2836
      @scottcampbell2836 4 роки тому

      No internet except my phone. What a pain

    • @scottcampbell2836
      @scottcampbell2836 4 роки тому

      @@KSuspension alright well it seems I got the wrong transfer case I'll put it aside for a slip yoke Eliminator another day and go to the U Pull and Pay and get another T case this weekend or maybe even this week

    • @scottcampbell2836
      @scottcampbell2836 4 роки тому

      Now i see how it all goes. The yoke does not touch the metal cover over the seal. I need cut the shaft so my yoke bottoms out on the shaft and still maintains a gap on the bottom. In the same way where you trimmed the yoke back.

  • @chiefexecutive
    @chiefexecutive 4 роки тому

    What kind of cut off wheel do you suggest ?

  • @jackmazza5742
    @jackmazza5742 7 років тому

    If I have zero lift, will the front drive shaft be too long after H&T do you think?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому +1

      Jack Mazza don't thing so.

    • @MazzaJF
      @MazzaJF 7 років тому +1

      I'll give it a shot! Thank you sir.

  • @lol123321123321
    @lol123321123321 8 років тому +1

    Looks like you need to shim your rear axle up quite a bit now

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      Why do you say that?
      Everything is fine as it sits

    • @lol123321123321
      @lol123321123321 8 років тому

      +Raffi Kassardjian you want your pinion to be in line with the drive shaft when you run a double cardin rear shaft. About 1 degree down is ideal. The pinion rolls up with acceleration so it's best set a degree or so lower than that actual driveshaft.

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      On my personal rig the pinion is set to a 13* angle, the jeep that is pictured in this video has 2* shims installed and working properly.
      Every application requires a different pinion angle I do agree

    • @lol123321123321
      @lol123321123321 8 років тому

      +Raffi Kassardjian very true! every application is different.

    • @lol123321123321
      @lol123321123321 8 років тому

      +Raffi Kassardjian on my Jeep I actually had to shim my Pinon down 1.5degrees. I'm running shackle relocation brackets and lift shackles so that essentially a acts the same as a shim and will point the pinion up further. I've never seen anyone else shim they're pinion down on a jeep lol

  • @deanmeier5736
    @deanmeier5736 6 років тому

    What year XJ's have the front CV shaft?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +3

      84-01 model year XJ’s have this style front driveshaft

  • @RyanWithAviators
    @RyanWithAviators 6 років тому

    Hack and Tap looks like a great product, but oh goodness...using a double cardan driveshaft with a pinion angle like that is not a true all good. With a double cardan setup you need to have the pinion angle pointing directly at the output shaft of the transfer case or transmission. Otherwise you’ll get driveline vibration. A normal setup without a double cardan shaft is the opposite. You want the planes of the pinion and the output shaft as parallel as possible.

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +2

      Ryan Vincent you’re not wrong
      We set ours up for our specific build type
      Everyone is different

    • @RyanWithAviators
      @RyanWithAviators 6 років тому

      Hey, to each his own then. How did the front driveshaft length compare to the rear driveshaft?

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +2

      Ryan Vincent i don’t remember the difference in length anymore
      I think I still have the custom shaft we were running so I can measure it out
      But using the front for the rear has been perfect so far on/off road

    • @RyanWithAviators
      @RyanWithAviators 6 років тому +1

      Neat. Well I'm glad it worked out for you guys.

  • @drake_allen_13
    @drake_allen_13 7 років тому

    what type of drill and bits are you using? I've tried low speed and high speed drills and two types of bits. people keep telling me I have to take it to a shop cuz its hardened steel but obviously this vid proves I don't. I keep drilling and nothing is happening. help!!!

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому +1

      Drake Stevens using standard titanium bits from Lowe's
      Slow and steady with an even amount of pressure
      It takes a little while, but just mark your depth and go for it!
      And no, you don't need a shop to do this job

    • @drake_allen_13
      @drake_allen_13 7 років тому

      KSuspension that's exactly what ive been doing and its not spitting any shavings out. I've sat there for awhile drilling and lubing and so on. so u think if I just keep at it? i figured something would have happened by now.

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому

      Drake Stevens sounds like you have a dull bit
      Try drilling a pilot hole smaller than the main bit, then going at it with the larger bit

    • @drake_allen_13
      @drake_allen_13 7 років тому

      Titanium like u suggested. Someone told me try carbon tipped? And the bits were brand new but I'm sure it's dull now.

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому +1

      Drake Stevens can give another bit a shot
      I've done the job with both styles
      Doesn't require anything fancy

  • @Frank_Hernandez
    @Frank_Hernandez 8 років тому

    Would this work on the 241 TC?

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      +Francisco Hernandez Not sure, I'd contact Iron Rock Offroad and ask them

  • @andrij13
    @andrij13 8 років тому

    hey! that looks like my 01 xj! minus the stickers and flares!

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      +islh That's awesome!! This was an 01 we installed the Hack n Tap on :-)

    • @andrij13
      @andrij13 8 років тому

      +Raffi Kassardjian you may have helped change the oil on it when you were working at Jiffy Lube

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      +islh That was many many moons ago lol

    • @andrij13
      @andrij13 8 років тому

      +Raffi Kassardjian yea, but I still have the jeep 😊

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      +islh That's awesome!!

  • @seantbr2019
    @seantbr2019 Рік тому

    Could you do this on a 2wd aw4

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  Рік тому +1

      Couldn’t say, Never done that.

    • @seantbr2019
      @seantbr2019 Рік тому

      @@KSuspension I wonder how some Jeep speed guys do it alot of them are 2wd

  • @gatordave6629
    @gatordave6629 3 роки тому

    What degree shims did you use after doing this

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  3 роки тому

      Didn’t need any. That’s the whole point of a double Cardin shaft

    • @gatordave6629
      @gatordave6629 3 роки тому

      @@KSuspension i thought you angled the pinion on the diff up at the t case

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  3 роки тому

      @@gatordave6629 on another xj build we clocked the pinion 12° yes, not this one though

  • @scottgrigsby4210
    @scottgrigsby4210 4 роки тому

    I know its more work, but I would pull the case out and do it on a bench, much easier on you back, guess I'm getting old

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  4 роки тому

      We have a lift now lol, easier in the air

  • @shanester2594
    @shanester2594 8 років тому

    How much lift on the xj

    • @hndaxr400rdr
      @hndaxr400rdr 8 років тому

      This XJ had the RE Superflex 4.5"

    • @shanester2594
      @shanester2594 8 років тому +1

      +Raffi Kassardjian Thanks and great vid.

  • @B.wilk89
    @B.wilk89 5 років тому +2

    I laughed my ass off at the torque it to 30ft lbs lol didnt even turn torqu
    e wrench just immediately clicks it's all good I work at a tire shop and always get people asking me what the torque specs are or aren't you gonna put a torque wrench on them lug nuts I'm like I guess if ypu wanna see me do it I'll do it for ya click click click click not a single nut turns

  • @Kylemanwiller
    @Kylemanwiller 6 років тому

    Will this fit my np249j in my 1995 jeep grand cherokee

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  6 років тому +1

      IMAKE GHETTOVIDEOS honestly have no idea
      I've never tried
      Email IRO, I'm sure they could tell you for sure

  • @cherokeexj7183
    @cherokeexj7183 7 років тому

    is this work on Np242 ??

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  7 років тому

      Cherokee XJ this was done on a NP231, but same concept for an NP242

  • @gatordave6629
    @gatordave6629 3 роки тому

    For a 100 dollars more you could just get a sye

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  3 роки тому

      Average cost for full SYE is $250+
      Hack n Tap is less than $100
      Plus the additional work involved that a majority of people are afraid to do because you must split the case, so most of the time you have to take to a shop to have done and pay labor, so ends up costing more than just $100 more, even just for parts
      Not saying an SYE is bad by any means, would rather do that 100%, but it’s just not $100 more

    • @gatordave6629
      @gatordave6629 3 роки тому

      Okay if you do it yourself not much more than 100 dollars at least for a cheaper one do.most hack and tap kits come with the tap? And how well do they perform compared to a sye

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  3 роки тому

      @@gatordave6629 they should come with it, and honestly, they have been performing rather well tbh. Again, we do recommend a full SYE, but on a budget, this works great and you can run a stock shaft so no special part orders are needed.

    • @gatordave6629
      @gatordave6629 3 роки тому

      @@KSuspension i guess I'm not fully educated on the subject I was under the impression that when you eliminated the slip yoke the purpose was to put a double cardin shaft in if you just leave the stock shaft what was the purpose

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  3 роки тому

      @@gatordave6629 by stock shaft, I meant stock front shaft whic his the double cardin setup. not a stock slip yoke shaft which you are removing, sam as what's in the video

  • @briancossey9724
    @briancossey9724 5 років тому +1

    That is idiotic, it wouldn't last a week if you didn't go offroad

    • @KSuspension
      @KSuspension  5 років тому +3

      Brian Cossey what wouldn’t last?