What If Marilyn Monroe Had Lived? Part 2
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- I respond to your comments about "What If Marilyn Monroe Had Lived?" and dive into more films that she might have made, and share a scene from one of her films.
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She made Something's Got To Give to finish her contract with 20th Century Fox not Let's Make Love. She would have been in The Great Race, but was replaced by Natalie Wood. Who is Sidney Lumay? Did you mean Sidney LumeT? Mike Nichols Directed The Graduate.
I've pinned this so everyone can see your corrections. Thank you for watching both of my videos on Marilyn. Like my mistake with "In Ol' Chicago", I probably should pay more attention to the details. I was studying "12 Angry Men" with my students at the time, so confused Mike Nichols with Sidney Lumet.
I couldn’t disagree with you more. Marilyn can adapt. She tried marrying different men and marriages. You should give Marilyn more credit she was resilient and strong 💪🏻 ❤
No one glowed like Marilyn😊❤
“The Misfits” was such a bittersweet film. Marilyn was fantastic in it, but Arthur Miller wrote it as a slightly cruel comment on her persona. The scene you used showed her absolute radiance on the screen, & the chemistry between all her fellow actors. She truly was a star. ❤
On the video essay by "Be Kind Rewind" she apparently told him that she wanted him to write a script for her, not about her. Which is strikingly similar to what the son of the writer of Winnie the Pooh also said. Whether here or in "All About Eve", no matter who she was teamed up with, she outshone all of them. If she had made that film with Marlon Brando, it would have been fireworks. I can't imagine him dealing with being outshone well, though.
Arthur Miller was jealous of her fame,beauty ,talent and popularity. Also, her strength. She had such a difficult childhood which she showed the world, she became famous. Arthur was a spoilt Jewish mummy's boy.
@@danicafilipic3121 well said! i found Arthur to be condescending in his opinion of Marilyn & he was angry at himself deep down for making him begrudgingly realise he actually wanted her fame, adoration, beauty & innocence. This made him question his intellectual image & made him write a scathing character for her in the misfits. I am sure he wanted Marilyn to read what he wrote about her regarding the misfits character in order to knock her confidence which as we know, did upset Marilyn. Either way, this magnificent, luminous & wonderful artist deserved so much better. The new movie was not favourable & i dont gove it much credence, despite Ana's beauty & acting talent. This two parter has been so refreshing & has got me thinking about how much we lost our on MMs untimely death. What a legend!
@@Camille_Anderson You have researched her life well. You give great insight into both their personalities. I respect your opinion and insight. It fits in well with the dozen books I've read about Marilyn. Also many documentaries about her. Well done.
Thank you so much for your insights, and your kind comments about my videos. We really did lose a lot when MM passed away
Hamish, You have honored Marilyn, with such love, and sensitivity. I have thought many times, about how her life may have gone. Thank you for keeping that flame of hope and curiosity alive! XOXO
Thank you so much, this is exactly what I wanted to do xxoo
To this day, Marilyn is still the World's Biggest Star! 💋 ⭐
Absolutely agree!
MM in Woman Under the Influence would probably resulted in an oscar!
Definitely! Which role would you have had her play?
Hamish, I just found your channel today. Thank you for your tender and respectful comments and thoughts on Marilyn Monroe. Hoping you do a whole series of videos on Marilyn. I have liked and subscribed. Have a wonderful day. ♥
Thank you for subscribing! You are my 300th subscriber, what would you like me to make videos about? I had planned to do a third part of the Marilyn series for her birthday, but the actress I wanted to work with got sick. I did do a reaction to her top ten rated films on IMDB, as well as a video reacting to eating her favorite dish in Japan. I don’t know if you are interested, but I did an interview with Anna Cale, Diana Dors biographer, which was interesting. I hope you continue to enjoy my videos. Thank you again!
Love the scenes from The Misfits. I think that film is underrated. Her time in the Actor’s Studio is very apparent in this performance! She really gained a depth and breadth from her training as evidenced by the role of Ros. PS: I enjoyed realizing that Thelma Ritter was her costar in two films- my favorite of all time, All About Eve, and The Misfits! Fun trivia
Actually, there’s technically another one, “As Young As You Feel”, but they don’t really share any scenes. It’s a good movie, if you haven’t seen it.
Thanks dear for refreshing us with sweet sweet memories of magical golden girl.. Thanks again.
My pleasure! Thank you for watching
If she is God gift to us, then she should remain with us, as God gift to us & how can Almighty take back gift, even rolling shield also passed on to latest winner but shield doesn't be usurped by donater..
Marylin Monroe is a icon and she will always be! Thanks for making this video btw today is 71th anniversary for her movie Niagara!
Wow! It’s time to rewatch “Niagara”. I’ve been watching or rewatching all of her films and doing quick reviews on shorts recently.
I think had she lived she was brilliant enough that with Marilyn Monroe Productions she would have helped shape the industry as she developed her company more and honed her skills. She was always learning and reinventing herself. Eventually she could have had people line up to want to work under her studios and she could have expanded into uncharted territory.
I totally agree with you. Perhaps similar to what Lucille Ball was able to achieve
Yes thank you for your gender equality views
No. Twas not meant unto occur. Men do naturally rather Rule the World. Men art naturally Dominant.
In fact, Marilyn was in ( July 1962,) stronger than ever, she told photographer and friend George Barris in a interview for. a book project that they working on, that she finally was happy and was exited about her future. She was rehired by Fox on August 1st 1962 for a $1 M contract for 2 years. In August of 1962 she fired her maid and her pr agent Pat Newcomb , also her analist Ralph Greenson. She had lot’s of film and on stage offers , also Vegas ask her to preform on stage with her favorite songs. She was about to adopt a 2 year old Mexican boy in September of 1962 in Mexico City ( she visit an orphan home there in February 1962 ) In October filming of Something’s Got To Give was planned…. Read the book “ Marilyn her life in hear own words “ By Barris and Monroe, its clear. she was as happy as can be , with a fantastic future ahead of her. i studied Marilyn / Norma Jeane for over 35 years , if you have any questions just. ask 👌🏼
Thank you for your offer and for watching the video (videos?). Seems like I was on the right track with regards to Vegas, removing the deadwood around her, and starting a family.
Could be she was murdered and that her analyst greenson was in on it, as they have thought in some of those documentarirs about her.
I have got you beat, I have loved since I was 9 when she was murdered and and I am still in love with her and I am 71yo today .❤❤
Had Marilyn lived the world would still have been a much better place now.
I totally agree with you! Thank you for watching and commenting!
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Marilyn want to play irma la duce but Billy wilder refused, after SLIH!!! The shirley mcclaine part in the yellow rolls Royce would have been perfect for Marilyn. Paul lynde and Marilyn...priceless.
I think Wilder had grown tired of directing MM, but they were a magic combination
@@HamishDownie most definitely, he even plays tribute to marilyn in the apartment!!!
I’m sure Billy Wilder knew they made movie magic together. The Apartment was excellent and included many references to his previous films. I know he made many films afterwards, but it did feel a bit like a swan song.
Your camera angle was much better in part 1.
Thanks for letting me know (and watching both videos)
I could see Monroe working with some of the great European directors such as Luis Bunuel.
Interesting. What film do you see her doing in Europe?
Monroe would have been wonderful in Bunuel’s “Viridiana” (although that one was made in 1961 before her death ). Perhaps “Belle De Jour” although she may have been a tad too old.
Interesting choices!
Thank
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Fascinating man! Great deep dive! 🤙🏾
Thank you so much again for watching. I have a screenwriting question I wanted to ask you about, would twitter be best?
@@HamishDownie I prefer calls. I hate typing. 😂 That, or hit my DMs on Twitter.
WELL done in your loving thoughts
Thank you for watching and your kind feedback
A lot of people feel Some Like It Hot as one of Marilyn's best movies, and yet it's one of my least favourite movies. One of my favourites is Bus Stop, River of No Return, of course Gentleman Refer Blondes, Seven Year Inch, I also think she was very good in Ladies of the Chorus, Asphalt Jungle, There's No Business Like Show Business, Niagara.
I need to watch "Asphalt Jungle"! I loved Marilyn in all those movies. "Some like it hot" is one of my all time favourites, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to have the same opinions. I just watched Marilyn in "Love Happy" and her part was fantastic. I need to rewatch "Seven year Itch". I didn't like it as a kid, but now I'm that grumpy middle aged man, I may have a different perspective. I used to want to save some of Marilyn's films for later, so I would always have a new film of hers to watch. But since last year, I've decided to throw that away and watch all her films. So many are accessible on UA-cam now.
I totally enjoyed Let's make Love. The musical numbers were great.
I’ll need to check it out. I haven’t seen it or Monkey Business
Did we ever get a chance to see the real her that often? RIP
Not enough. I think she was pivoting that way in the 60s, though. RIP
If she is God gift to us, then she should remain with us, as God gift to us & how can Almighty take back gift, even rolling shield also passed on to latest winner but shield doesn't be usurped by donater..
At least we will always have her movies
Yes, ofcourse it is a blessing in disguise..
Did Marilyn get along with any of her siblings
I'd need to research more, but I believe that she got on well with her half-sister who wrote a very nice book about their relationship, "My Sister Marilyn"
She probably would have played "Mz. Robinson," as a career comeback in ( 67,,,???) ( if she could pull herself together) than did the rounds on the "Mike Douglas" Show, "Dianh Shore", "Carson." Etc maybe play a grandma in "Schindler's list" ( she was Jewish.) Did the "AiD'S" Liz Taylor type deal-O. THE END.
Everyone has mentioned Mrs. Robinson in the Graduate. I didn't know that she was Jewish, so that's interesting to know. I do see her working with Elizabeth Taylor. Taylor supported her while they were both having trouble with Fox in the early 60s
She pulled herself together successfully multiple times
I hath not approved of the rather radical controversial elizabeth taylor.
A Detective Show? How about "Honey West" that starred Anne Francis?
when I looked it up on Wikipedia, apparently Marilyn was the inspiration for the character! I could definitely see this for her
Marilyn wanted to try new roles not just romances that portrayed her as the sexpot dumb blonde repeatedly it got boring
If she lived, she goes to the press about her affairs with JFK and the RFK. And both of them are forced to resign and LBJ becomes President in 1962.
hmm… an interesting perspective that I hadn’t considered, you are probably right
No. That is not how things occured. Twas a proven overdose. * Rather.
I really believe the mid 1960's going forward would not have easy for her. Tastes were changing. Bardot and Ann-Margret were coming up fast. The studio contract system that coddled her was fading away. Doris Day was still a draw for several years, but she had a sketchy manager/husband steering her career. Marilyn would have needed to dump the Strasberg's and their ridiculous "Method" acting and mirror the technique of someone like Uta Hagen. Then there's the pills and alcohol...
I agree that she needed to have good people around her. I talked about that more in part one. She would have had to deal with turning 40, which is tough for almost all actresses who aren’t named Katherine Hepburn or Meryl Streep. I took a very purposely Pollyanna perspective in my videos, but undoubtedly the press and comedy world would have been as vicious to MM as they were to Elizabeth Taylor. I do feel that like Taylor, Marilyn was taking steps to pivot into the new era, and I do think she could have at the very least, like Doris Day had a chance at more success had she lived
She was certainly the greatest movie star of cinema. That’s why I included the scene with Clark Gable, and in part one, the scene from All About Eve. In a scene filled with Oscar winners, she outshone them all.
i think it would have been difficult too, i totally agree about Bardot, she was perfection! MM would always have a fan base, id like to imagine personal & professional contentment and think she would always have that luminous, star quality that just takes over the entire screen to this day.
I agree
No Matter how much analysis and prediction into the future about Marilyn anyone gives, there’s one thing we must not forget, ‘That Her Star Quality, Beauty, Poise, Mannerisms And Overall Magic is Unmatched By Anyone of Her Contemporaries And/Or Stars of Today!! You Could Never Compare Anyone’s Appearance And Presence With Marilyn!! She Was Ageing When She died But Was Looking The Best She Ever Had. She Is Unmatched, Incomparable And Just Sheer Magic. She Stands Alone So None Of The Names You Mention Can Come Any Close.. Her Mannerisms & Poise Alone Will, Would Have Stood The Test Of Time. A Star And A Beauty For Generations Till The End Of Time 🌪⚡️💫✨☄️💥❤️🙏🏾💎💎💎👑👑
I agree with you about Michelle Williams
She’s really gone from strength to strength as an actress since Dawson’s Creek
Had she lived, she would have made the Matt Helm movies with Dean Martin.
Maybe been a Bond girl.
Once she hit the wall, she would've maybe posed for Playboy again, then played the sexy neighbor role on TV for a few years. She wouldn't be considered a legend today. Once she hit 50 or so her career would've been over.
Maybe starred in a series like Angela Landsbury did.
To my knowledge Jayne Mansfield was never up for a part on Gilligan's Island.
Marilyn was up for the part of the movie star.
Judging by what happened to Tina Louise, it would've ended her career.
It was mentioned in a Jayne Mansfield documentary I watched that they wanted her for the role. I think it would have been good for Jayne, but I can’t see Marilyn doing the role. The issue with television is that you become forever associated with that role, such as Caroline Jones in The Adam’s Family. I could have seen Marilyn do the “Rain” telemovie with someone like Anthony Perkins
I had no idea about Dean Martin’s spy series. I don’t think she would have done Bond as they wouldn’t have wanted to pull focus away from Sean. She had a nice chemistry with Dean Martin. I could see her on a sitcom, maybe as the sexy neighbour. She would have been a legend whether she died or not, but more like Brando or Elizabeth Taylor or Bette Davis. She wouldn’t have been a tragic figure, cut down in her prime like James Dean.
@@HamishDownie I did say "it was to my knowledge" it could be they were both up for a part.
@@HamishDownie He made, I think 4 Matt Helm movies. They were sort of a take off on James Bond.
Not done quite as seriously.
I think MM would have had a successful career if she had lived.
I definitely agree. Do you think she would have gone behind the camera, or stayed in front of the camera?
@HamishDownie in front. Her acting style was becoming more nuanced and I think she would have left the " sexy" roles behind. It would have been nice though to see her go for all out comedy.
I think she may have made more films with Dean Martin. It would have been good if she was given more than just the sexy roles
Twas a rather sexual era. Within an interesting manner.
It's not a popular opinion, but I wish she had made Breakfast At Tiffany's. Audrey Hepburn was a superb actress, and gave the role 100%. But I just never found her believable as an Ozark Mountain girl. She was too... Thoroughbred? Marilyn came up from poverty, and would have brought something more genuine to the role.
The video essay by @bkrewind on Audrey Hepburn and that film is illuminating, especially as to why MM wasn't chosen, despite Capote basing the character on MM. But, I certainly agree with you that Marilyn would have been great in the film. It would have been another meta role, along with The Misfits and Seven Year Itch.
Here's the video I mentioned: ua-cam.com/video/0Gs-l6yHKHY/v-deo.html
@@HamishDownie Thank you so much! Watching this now, and learning so much.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video by Be Kind Rewind
She doesn’t want to be known as a sexpot. She doesn’t know what it’s like to lose a brother. Audrey Hepburn had two stepbrothers that were taken to concentration camps that’s why she could bring real vulnerability and grief during the scene when she finds out Fred is dead in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I do rather love the fact that Marilyn Monroe Ji preferred MEN over Women. Marilyn Monroe Ji were rather a Man Lover akin unto my person A Real Woman rather. Thus the sex appeal.
Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you enjoy the other videos I’ve made.
If she loved women she couldn’t have had sex appeal?
@@AleiahPrice Within a Word, NO.*
@@AleiahPrice Obviously not so. Rather.
Marilyn Monroe Ji were Sexy. Due unto the natural Opposites Attract factor working well within her life. Rather. That is the way that nature doth work and is ordained.
Many stars would’ve faded is they have lived.
Maybe so, maybe not. I try to take a Pollyanna view of what might have happened, as I'm a fan of the people I cover. Thanks for watching and commenting :)
No she would’ve been remembered for more of her movies not just the sexpot and for her looks. Marilyn would not have faded away
i get suprise...wen i see hr Fans....
How ppl use 2 Lov her.......
I’ve definitely learned that people from all walks of life are fans of Marilyn
Your fading from my mind
thank you for commenting. do you have a favorite Marilyn film?
If Marilyn was manufactured it was by her. She did control her own image, at least after 1955. Marilyn was much prettier than Harlow in my opinion.
You know, I never would have guessed that my remark about Harlow would cause people so much grief. I was trying to contextualise Marilyn in film history, not put her down in any way shape or form. Thank you for watching and commenting, it means a lot to a small channel like mine.
No male producers and viewers manufactured her especially Arthur miller her controlling sexist husband do more research this deep rooted sexism needs to end! Is that all you care about is Marilyn Monroe’s beauty? What about her abilities as an actress and singer? Or her intelligence?
@@AleiahPriceSo what ? A woman's/lady's beauty/prettiness is all important. A female is rather akin unto a flower. A delicate flower. I do rather love being a Woman. As didst do Marilyn Monroe Ji.
Indeed a woman's/lady's beauty/prettiness is all important. A female is rather akin unto a flower. A delicate flower. I do rather love being a Woman. As didst do Marilyn Monroe Ji.
If Marilyn had kuved she would be very old
I do rather detest that eartha kitt. That eartha were rather an lbtq advocate. A radical. Rather. I am rather Conservative. As were Marilyn Monroe Ji Conservative rather. Marilyn Monroe Ji didst hath rather few friends whatsoever.
You probably won’t enjoy the Eartha Kitt video I’m planning then. Or the James Dean one. Have a nice day.
Really annoying keep changing your clothes
I’m sorry that the change of clothes annoyed you, this video was recorded over several days.
@@HamishDownie Oh OK. I get it now.
I guess this is why other people go to the trouble of wearing the same clothes, but that seems to fake to me. Ironically, me not being fake, comes across as being fake?
She wasn’t gonna live. She was opening her mouth about the Kennedy’s, shoulda shut up.
There is that aspect. In my Pollyanna universe, she wouldn’t have got to involved with the wrong people (as I mentioned in part 1). She should’ve stayed out of politics
No. Marilyn Monroe Ji were not murdered by another. Rather.
She was 36, four years shy of 40. Her career was behind her.
Diana Dors, Elizabeth Taylor and Eartha Kitt all enjoyed careers that spanned their lifetimes and beyond their 40s. Don't you think Marilyn could have as well? Whether she would remain a leading lady is up for debate, but I don't think that her career would have been behind her
No she was young looking and had plenty of talent. Besides Cher, Dolly Parton , Jennifer Aniston and Taylor swift are past 34 while still having successful careers and aging gracefully
@@AleiahPriceNo. That dolly parton is full of plastic surgery, rather. That dolly parton doth not hath such a great appearance.
That dolly parton is full of plastic surgery rather. That dolly parton doth not hath such a great appearance.
I do rather dislike the radical celebrities. At least Marilyn Monroe were rather conservative. *