Ben Foster has his say on Steven Gerrard stripping Tyrone Mings of the Aston Villa captaincy

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  • Aston Villa manager Steven Gerrard stripped England international Tyrone Mings of the captain's armband in pre-season and appointed John McGinn in his place. Mings was left on the bench as an unused substitute as they lost their Premier League opener 2-0 at Bournemouth on Saturday. talkSPORT's Ben Foster, Laura Woods and Ally McCoist discuss!
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  • @dannydelillo6086
    @dannydelillo6086 Рік тому +128

    As an Aston Villa fan I have got more loyalty to Tyrone Ming’s than Steven Gerrard. Ming’s has been the best ambassador for the club over the last few years and proved himself.
    Gerrard has yet to prove himself at Villa. We have won two in 12 games and he is getting away with it in media because he is Steven Gerrard and a legend.
    Anyone else would be under fire by now.

    • @orourkedafootball
      @orourkedafootball Рік тому +15

      I'm an Aston Villa fan too. I can't argue with you about the off field stuff. He seems like a decent bloke and this is nothing personal. However, it's the on field stuff that I have an issue with. I think he's a mediocre PL defender, at best, who can have absolutely no complaints at being dropped. Diego Carlos was pretty much guaranteed to start at Bournemouth and the only surprise to me was that he started with Konsa ahead of Chambers. I also happen to agree with you about Gerrard. There has been liitle, if any, signs of improvement of you look at those 12 games and Saturday which is concerning. Steven Gerrard is now out of excuses. He's had his pre season and he has had two windows. It's now crap or get off the pot time.

    • @dannydelillo6086
      @dannydelillo6086 Рік тому +5

      @@orourkedafootball very good points mate. I personally thing Mings needs to improve his game and he knows it but he did handle this like a captain when he got dropped and Gerrard has actually proved he still has alittle maturing as a manager to make comments like that. I actually thing Mings could of saved us on Saturday, particularly to prove a point against his former club. I always want to give a manager a chance but Saturday had that feel of effort the year we got relegated which I do not feel will happen with the quality but still it reminded me of that Garde era. It’s just sad to see one of the best teams we at Villa since MON all under achieve under this style of management. We have the players. I hope Gerrard comes good. UTV mate.

    • @villa_fan8882
      @villa_fan8882 Рік тому +16

      I am a Villa fan too and it shocks me how many fickle fans we have. Allow Gerrard time and stop asking for managers heads! We have been churning managers for the last 10 years and where has that got us? How can Gerrard succeed with poisonous fans like you 2. The reasons Liverpool always achieve things is because the fans get behind the team when they need it most. Our problem is we have too many fickle fans like you 2

    • @cavanriley7373
      @cavanriley7373 Рік тому +3

      Wouldn't have loyalty to any players mate especially ones in the modern era you see the problems at United too much player power over there. The manager should be the one you back for everything not any player at the club.

    • @dannydelillo6086
      @dannydelillo6086 Рік тому +4

      @@villa_fan8882 Goodness me, calm down. I’m not poisonous Jesus. I said it’s sad that we have a lot of players under achieving. That is a fact and the individuals know it and I want them to get form.
      If you read on you would see that we were having intelligent conversation and not throwing insults at each other and I said I hope Gerrard comes good. His comments on Ming’s were unnecessary. Have a blessed day :)

  • @lomar0058
    @lomar0058 Рік тому +91

    So how does Maguire keep getting away with captaining United, this is honestly ridiculous

    • @orourkedafootball
      @orourkedafootball Рік тому

      Because the management team at Manchester United are either blind, stupid or know nothing about football. Not dropping Tyrone Mings would amount to the same thing.

    • @stephenconnolly2582
      @stephenconnolly2582 Рік тому +6

      Commenting on the wrong video my friend.

    • @cavanriley7373
      @cavanriley7373 Рік тому +1

      Because no leader or back bone at United that's why the managers in charge are all yes men. Maguire has more influence in that dressing room than ten haag.

    • @ruigen8046
      @ruigen8046 Рік тому

      lets turn it back to United quick before people forget about us.]

    • @krate6579
      @krate6579 Рік тому

      Because Maguire cost 80m. Mings was 25m. United are very stubborn with expensive investments. They'd admit Ronaldo was a bad signing before they turn on Maguire.

  • @scepticalsaint
    @scepticalsaint Рік тому +39

    Bad to talk like that about Mings in public. Dropping him speaks volumes. Twisting the knife this early….not good.

    • @yinyang8259
      @yinyang8259 Рік тому +2

      Youd do the same if its your job on the line because of someone else's incapacity

    • @scepticalsaint
      @scepticalsaint Рік тому +1

      @@yinyang8259 I sort of get that; it must be stressful. Maybe he thinks publicly calling Mings out will get the right reaction. Unless he’s absolutely sure it will work positively, though, it’s not worth the risk.

    • @Tinywars
      @Tinywars Рік тому +3

      @@scepticalsaint ..No risk in it at all. He wants him gone and has basically said as much. We need a return to the manager being the boss.

    • @scepticalsaint
      @scepticalsaint Рік тому

      @Truth Conspiracies yeah, that was a comfortable win, the back line did not look at all shaky. Impressive containing Rondon like that….

    • @scepticalsaint
      @scepticalsaint Рік тому

      @Truth Conspiracies Just messing…good win

  • @bigrambo1314
    @bigrambo1314 Рік тому +20

    Great to see Ben on talksport good guy and great views on the world of football in general keep it up Ben 👍

  • @ronniedixon1128
    @ronniedixon1128 Рік тому +49

    I’ve never really rated Mings and as an outsider looking in I can understand this decision, technically not great.

    • @hbb7528
      @hbb7528 Рік тому +3

      What are you talking about I think his good defender as a chelsea fan

    • @ronniedixon1128
      @ronniedixon1128 Рік тому +5

      @@hbb7528 nowhere near as good as any of your defenders

    • @mrflibble9783
      @mrflibble9783 Рік тому +8

      He's the best of an average bunch at Villa.

    • @TMckenzie007
      @TMckenzie007 Рік тому +4

      Mings is Aston Villa best defender Gerard has something personal but he be gone soon good player crap manager

    • @zephiel1932
      @zephiel1932 Рік тому +4

      @@TMckenzie007 mings is awful and cannot do what Gerrard wants him to do, he personally lost villa 10 points last season, last game of the season the team played out of their skin to go 2-0 up against city mings single handedly lost them that game.

  • @adrianmckeever2317
    @adrianmckeever2317 Рік тому +6

    Gerrard signed Carlos and I think there was real interest in Gomez so me Ming's was the cb who was always going to be sacrificed if a decent offer was to come in for Ming's in the next couple of weeks then I think he would be gone.

  • @dannymurphy1779
    @dannymurphy1779 Рік тому +9

    How is Tyrone going to look Gerrard in the eye when he's a foot taller??? Has Gerrard cleverly come up with a way to never pick Mings again???

    • @Redman680
      @Redman680 Рік тому

      He means that Mings has to show some fight. He took being stripped of the captaincy like a meek little puppy. Perhaps he's reacted the same way when told he wasn't guaranteed to start.

    • @richardknows6763
      @richardknows6763 Рік тому +1

      You should be a keeper
      Nothing gets passed you mate 🛬

  • @claudemurphy5035
    @claudemurphy5035 Рік тому +2

    Tyrone is a born leader ,Gerrard always wanted to give his friend cutanio the captian role , miggin is just a show

  • @VillaBravesGaming
    @VillaBravesGaming Рік тому +18

    As manager, SG is perfectly entitled to change captain. That said, the way he has handled it, the comments made at the time and post match Saturday, along with the sarcastic instagram post from Morgan Sanson and his reaction when questioned about Coutinho are probably the things setting alarm bells off with most fans. Tyrone Mings does have a mistake in him too often but his leadership was sorely missed at Bournemouth and personally, John McGinn is not captain material and has been pretty dreadful for a while now. If SG is heading down the ‘I’ll pick my favourites’ road then he’ll be looking for employment before the World Cup. How Buendia is not in the starting XI is beyond me. His treatment of Morgan Sanson is not acceptable either. Poor bloke has never been given a run of 7/8 consecutive starts to bed into the team and show what he has to offer. Preseason results may have been positive but the football was largely awful, disjointed and lacking any real identity or game plan. SG is already under pressure and needs to walk the walk not just talk the talk.

    • @scottc9100
      @scottc9100 Рік тому +1

      He done this at Rangers, it drove standards, it showed that if you didn’t perform or if you didn’t toe the line then you’re out. I’m the boss, I decide.

  • @Iamcruddy1
    @Iamcruddy1 Рік тому +9

    The issue isn’t dropping Mings and stripping him of his captaincy…it’s what he has come out with to the press afterwards ‘Mings is still raw and hasn’t really been talking much’ and ‘he needs to look me in the eye if he wants to play again’…that’s the issue here, there’s no need for that, especially considering Gerrard wanted to take the captaincy off him to take him out of the spotlight. When you then consider that Traore, Guilbert, Sanson have been banished to the reserves (not for discipline reasons), and an out of form McGinn has been given the captaincy, and Coutinh whose out of form for months is given unconditional starts ahead of a Buendia who performs better..you have to question his man-management skills. The tactics consist of crosses into the box, and he’s favouring older signings over young signings, why buy courinhk and Diego Carlos? It’s not like Villa are making Europe, why not build a team that will complete in a year or 2..Villa also have one of the best academies in the country, so it’s even more shocking the direction he’s going in. Gerrard is having a stinker at Villa, and will be sacked in a few weeks..I’m seeing all this as a gooner, I wonder what Villa fans think

    • @jbwillis7845
      @jbwillis7845 Рік тому

      Fully agree. Tactics are bemusing. On paper the team should b exciting to watch…..it’s not. It looks clueless. Gerrard has 6 games I think or he’s going.

    • @gordygreen7159
      @gordygreen7159 Рік тому

      Bitter Arsenal fan who can't get over all the maulings Stevie G dished out to you lot. I don't follow a team myself as I am an adult but I am from Merseyside and I watched that man destroy entire Arsenal mids by himself, Vieira left the country just to escape him! It must pain you that a boy from Huyton has won more European trophies alone than Arsenal have in their entire history. When you leave school you will understand that some things require hard work and persistence, Mummy won't always be there Junior. You should not brag about being a gooner, this is the club that sacked Wenger for always finishing 4th but if they finished 4th now the Gk Ramsdale would scream some more like a child and celebrate like he was Stevie G in Istanbul and Arteta would be hailed as the next Pep. Mings is not a good player, he causes divisions in the dressing room. You do know Gerrard has not even been at Villa for a year until November? He will be just fine. Arteta is almost 3 years in at Arsenal and still no signs of CL. Gerrard will manage a CL game before Arsenal ever play in one mark my words youngster.

    • @Iamcruddy1
      @Iamcruddy1 Рік тому +2

      @@gordygreen7159 ,
      Maulings? Gerrard?!!! What alternate reality have you been living in? Liverpool have only been relevant since what ..2018 in the past 30 years?! Gerrard’s Liverpool were coming 5th behind Everton…getting regularly beat by Arsenal…unbeaten for almost a decade at Liverpool. Liverpool were NEVER a problem, which is why I’ve never hated Liverpool..most Arsenal fans hate all the top 6 teams bar Liverpool who we have an indifference towards, there’s no hate. Gerrard played for cup teams….he has a negative record against Arsenal, why would I as an Arsenal fan have anything against Gerrard? Gerrard played in teams that were no threat to Arsenal….maybe, just maybe..and I know this sounds crazy…but maybe, I’ve been analysing Gerrard’s impact at Villa? Maybe, some of us are adults? I know, crazy right! One things for sure, YOU definitely do come across as bitter! For you to automatically think someone’s bitter because they’ve criticised the man you worship as a god is delusional and dangerous, cult like behaviour

    • @gordygreen7159
      @gordygreen7159 Рік тому

      @@Iamcruddy1 I am an adult. Adults do not "support " football teams or worship other men. Like I said Gerrard has more European trophies alone than the club you so blindly worship has in their entire history. The only cult like behaviour displayed here is from lunatics like yourself who proclaims "I am seeing this a gooner" . Really? are you now, well that's great that you consider yourself a member of this cult, only you ain't. They don't pay you, you pay them and they laugh at all the fools who say "its my club". I only commented as I get tired of seeing kids who achieved nothing themselves criticise Great Men who have proved time after time they have substance. Gerrard has been at Villa 9 Months, hasn't even had a season yet and you are on the bandwagon to get him out. He is the greatest Man who ever walked into Villa Park and they are very lucky to have such a winner and you sound exactly like the fools who were calling for his head 9 months into the Rangers job. You do know this is Steven Gerrard right? Its not some b standard non international ex player like Arteta this is elite. Arteta is 3 years in at Arsenal and still not even above Spurs, it takes time to get rid of Ozil and Auba etc same with Mings and the rest of the dead wood. You will understand when you have left school and get your first adult job.

    • @gordygreen7159
      @gordygreen7159 Рік тому

      @@Iamcruddy1 I would check Liverpools trophy cabinet and compare it to Arsenal before speaking such delusions. Liverpool Dominated the 80s kid. They won several Major European trophies between 2000-2005 at least 4 anyway. Not relevant? What are you smoking. Been drinking the Arteta kool aid to much

  • @alexbelotti1603
    @alexbelotti1603 Рік тому +21

    How long before Gerrards disastrous spell at Aston Villa is reported by the Liverpool FC media? Keeping it quiet

    • @Liam-rl2jn
      @Liam-rl2jn Рік тому +9

      Remarkable eh? they’ve won 2 of their last 12 premier league games.

    • @Rain188
      @Rain188 Рік тому +3

      Alex: since when Liverpool FC media was reporting on other teams? It is purely for reporting on Liverpool FC and not other teams

    • @somebodyelseuk
      @somebodyelseuk Рік тому +5

      sooner the better, if you ask me, then we can stop hearing all the 'next LFC manager' BS.

    • @cavanriley7373
      @cavanriley7373 Рік тому +1

      Why would the liverpool media report about a club from Birmingham??

  • @horatiowun9691
    @horatiowun9691 Рік тому +21

    Love seeing Ben foster make the move to media! Such a good guy and knows a lot!

    • @VictorVonDoom.
      @VictorVonDoom. Рік тому +6

      Knows a lot 😂
      You don’t need any notifications to be a football pundit
      A 14 year old girl could say the exact same things he’s saying

    • @jamieharper2554
      @jamieharper2554 Рік тому +1

      He's a right tosser

    • @yourdasellsavon9928
      @yourdasellsavon9928 Рік тому

      @@VictorVonDoom. notifications?? Do you mean accreditations?

    • @TwofourA
      @TwofourA Рік тому

      @@yourdasellsavon9928 no he meant apples

    • @yourdasellsavon9928
      @yourdasellsavon9928 Рік тому

      @@TwofourA A for apples thanks squirt

  • @QuentinKarentino
    @QuentinKarentino Рік тому +12

    I’ve never seen so much attention on a team changing captain

    • @9320Cityzens
      @9320Cityzens Рік тому +2

      you're forgetting all the media attention around the United captaincy in the summer - and that didn't even change.

    • @IT-ut6zu
      @IT-ut6zu Рік тому +1

      It would have been fine if Gerrard hadn’t gone and thrown Mings( who has certainly done more for the club than Gerrard has) under the bus like he did. That’s what’s caused the media attention and a lot of discontent among the villa fanbase

    • @2412LEIGH
      @2412LEIGH Рік тому

      @@IT-ut6zu mings has been playing rubbish why would he keep his place when they just went put and got a new cb

    • @Islandyute876
      @Islandyute876 Рік тому

      Arsenal last season?

  • @Murdocke89
    @Murdocke89 Рік тому +22

    He is a leader and will continue to be I feel, but he does have too many mistakes in his game so having the armband taken off him could help him focus more on his own game.

    • @SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay
      @SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay Рік тому

      Well I hope he's more focused cause now everyone else is. 🤣

    • @Murdocke89
      @Murdocke89 Рік тому

      @@SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay slow news day probably

    • @anthonyhurn1988
      @anthonyhurn1988 Рік тому +3

      He's rubbish mate he should never be anywhere near an England squad. I'm Welsh n wouldn't have him anywhere near our squad n our best CB has just joined rennes or nice lol

  • @Relaxingsounds647
    @Relaxingsounds647 Рік тому +6

    Steven Gerard is behaving like a tyrant. There is nothing wrong with choosing a different captain but you have to show respect to the player. Arteta stripped auba of the captaincy but never dissed him

  • @Solapunk
    @Solapunk Рік тому +1

    Never thought I’d see Bill Oddie on TalkSport 😂

  • @Stuart-Grant
    @Stuart-Grant Рік тому +1

    Ally's face when Ben Foster mentioned Disrespect was a trip back to when Souness benched him for Mo Johnston! to the point where we called Ally "The Judge" because he was never off the bench.. Souness is entitled to his opinion clearly but ally's face was perfect.

  • @aaaaab5909
    @aaaaab5909 Рік тому +17

    It is as simple as Gerard doesn't see mings as part of the best XI, and it is better value to have a captain on the pitch

    • @JC-cb4xg
      @JC-cb4xg Рік тому +4

      McGinn shouldnt be on the pitch rn aha hes been poor for a while martinez is the safe option

    • @TJTOPBOY
      @TJTOPBOY Рік тому +1

      @@JC-cb4xg you joking? McGinn was one of their most consistent players last season

    • @7dayselectronicskle790
      @7dayselectronicskle790 Рік тому

      Simple the players want Mings as there Cap if not that, they won't play for that proud newly coach until he is fired

    • @villa_fan8882
      @villa_fan8882 Рік тому +1

      @@TJTOPBOY hood you know? I find it hard to believe you watched all of our games considering you support another team! I like Mcginn but to say he is consistent is the complete opposite. Mcginn biggest problem is consistency. He can have a great game but then go missing for 5 games.

    • @patrickreade6119
      @patrickreade6119 Рік тому

      @@TJTOPBOY not sure consistently inconsistent counts.

  • @thefilmandmusic
    @thefilmandmusic Рік тому +1

    TM is a total pro and a good guy and important in the Villa dressing room . The ball was bouncing in the box against Bournemouth , wouldn’t be happening if TM is playing . Look at his stats , getting blocks in … No centre half is flawless , if you are in the battle things happen .. TM is articulate, smart and socially aware .. and a great rep for Villa ..

  • @spms3018
    @spms3018 Рік тому +1

    Slippy is part of footballs protected elite. Took him 3 years to win 1 trophy in Scotland…

  • @funsoi563
    @funsoi563 Рік тому +6

    When you don't fancy each other you don't see the qualities maybe another see

  • @orourkedafootball
    @orourkedafootball Рік тому +1

    How do tthey know for sure that this is personal conflict? It may very well be. It's all speculation until confirmed by either party.

  • @FootballCityzen
    @FootballCityzen Рік тому +2

    This captain issue is handled poorly by clubs that’s why it’s such a massive talking point.
    Man city captain changes every season because it’s voted by the players.
    This Season it’s
    Gundo
    Dias
    KDB
    Bernardo
    In that order. And no one talks about it. Because it doesn’t matter when you have leaders on the pitch.

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      As a neutral, there's not much I like about City tbh, but I have to admit their diplomatic method of selecting a Captain is sound.

  • @silversteel6312
    @silversteel6312 Рік тому +1

    Ally seeing the ghost of John Gorham float by his window

  • @jonnyharding3646
    @jonnyharding3646 Рік тому +3

    Chris Brunt being stripped of the captaincy was a complete joke. Was a great servant of West Brom, brilliant captain, and was playing every week.

  • @longshlongsilver293
    @longshlongsilver293 Рік тому +20

    How McGinn got it is more worrying. Consistent poor performances get you captain!? Gerrard picks on favourites rather than ability.

    • @wilbenson9007
      @wilbenson9007 Рік тому +1

      I love his industriousness, but he's been a class clown since day 1. Great for keeping up morale in the dressing room, but not a leader

  • @dominicmccabe3779
    @dominicmccabe3779 Рік тому +5

    Classic talksport creating stories out of nothing - this has to be the biggest overreaction to losing the opening game and ofc everyone is pointing to mings losing the captaincy as one of the prime reasons. Any villa fan that seriously thinks were going to push for Europe and jump from 14th to 7th in the space of a season all because of a couple of early clever signings in the transfer window is a fool. It's going to take 2 or 3 seasons at least to get to that position under gerrard who needs a real could chance and a couple more transfer windows to achieve that.

  • @adamsky77
    @adamsky77 Рік тому +3

    he is injured - could be just that - dissection of every syllable

  • @Independent-Revolutionary
    @Independent-Revolutionary Рік тому +1

    The thing is IF Villa had beaten Bournemouth the captaincy debate would not have gone on, the problem is they Lost to Bournemouth which in turn has exasperated the Captaincy changing hands and made the debate more prevalent.

  • @markreilly6403
    @markreilly6403 Рік тому +1

    The whole time they didn’t mention how bad he was last season which was a huge factor can’t have your captain on the Bench

  • @mr.chocolate3721
    @mr.chocolate3721 Рік тому +3

    He dropped Mings and they still lost by 2 goals to Bournemouth. That speak volumes about the manager. Gerrard is a shitty manager. He wouldn’t take Villa anywhere.

  • @gyata7270
    @gyata7270 Рік тому +6

    Mings defo needs to improve his personal game, he's got worse year on year since we've been back in the Prem. Southgate left him out of recent England squads because of this, but Gerrard needs to sort the squad out ASAP, we were getting slightly better results and performances under DS, although we still were doing badly, but he had less depth in the squad.

  • @Law-n-Lyrics
    @Law-n-Lyrics Рік тому +1

    AS A VILLA FAN...i KNEW it was going to happen. For SG to accomplish the boards Goals for the club, certain players need to 'replaced'. Tyrone makes TOO MANY ERRORS, and always has a mistake in him. For Villa to fight for top 7, we need better players. Simple as that. In SG we trust.

  • @mcb2067
    @mcb2067 Рік тому +2

    Amongst others West Ham would welcome Mr Mings and what an addition that would be…….come on Tyrone don’t sit on that bench, go and stake a place for both Club and Country where you deserve……Yes I`m a WHU fan…Born there and supported them for 60 years so far so I can see its a great fit for both club and player….

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      Would love to see Mings play under Rice's captaincy

  • @shutup2751
    @shutup2751 Рік тому +12

    yet maguire is still captain of united, madness

  • @MrGoldie1976
    @MrGoldie1976 Рік тому +1

    If HE SAID THAT TO ME I'D BE UPSET..Grow up they get paid plenty of money for kicking a bag of wind about

  • @anthonyhurn1988
    @anthonyhurn1988 Рік тому +5

    I'm a United fan and fairplay to Gerrard like, he's finally done and said what every football fan on the planet is thinking and knows

  • @regaltip8A
    @regaltip8A Рік тому +1

    I'd also be thinking about benching Coutinho who recently has shown nothing. Don't know how he picked McGinn as Captain either.

    • @Sidneyyoungblood75
      @Sidneyyoungblood75 Рік тому

      Coutinho has always been over rated because he has one good game every 15 - 20 games.
      The money Liverpool got for him was heaven sent. Notice how they started winning once he left?
      Same goes for Ozil and Pogba.
      One good game and everyone kisses their asses. They get all cocky but there's a big gap for their next good game.
      I don't care how technically good a player is. If he only delivers it four times a season then he is crap in my eyes.

  • @TommyDJr45
    @TommyDJr45 Рік тому +2

    Mings is grateful, something most footballers aren't. That's why he's handled it the way he has. Top professional. Wish him nothing but the best whether that's at Villa or somewhere else.

    • @bigbinji6145
      @bigbinji6145 Рік тому

      what you mean is expensive PR guys have put that statement out proclaiming to be loyal etc Behind the scenes Mings would be creating mayhem in the dressing room with his black power hate whites nonsense

    • @TommyDJr45
      @TommyDJr45 Рік тому +1

      @@bigbinji6145 says his teammate who was in the dressing room? lol go outside buddy and touch some grass.

    • @bigbinji6145
      @bigbinji6145 Рік тому

      @@TommyDJr45 guy thinks he is Malcolm X , talked himself into hating white people. Ship him out before he destroys the dressing room with his racist nonsense

  • @jheelan4432
    @jheelan4432 Рік тому

    Ben Foster is a great ambassador for footballers. Great lad and decent player. Footballers get accused of being robots with no personality but he has enough to make up for a starting 11!

  • @paulgibbons2320
    @paulgibbons2320 Рік тому +8

    Gerrard paid to make the big decisions. Let him get on with it.
    He could be throwing down a challenge to mings to prove him wrong an raise his game.

  • @marcmoat995
    @marcmoat995 Рік тому +2

    Something has happened with Mings and Gerrard is being diplomatic . I don’t think he’s England class and as a Newcastle fan I was happy we didn’t sign him

  • @WyreForestBiker
    @WyreForestBiker Рік тому +1

    Ming's is an enigma ... he speaks with eloquence and maturity yet looks and acts on the pitch like a
    teenage wannabe thug , chewing gum while looking for the next confrontation .

  • @richardknows6763
    @richardknows6763 Рік тому +5

    Mings doesn't need a kicking to make him play better, he needs a pat on the back and reassurance. Gerrard is hurting him, not helping him. We saw how fragile Mings is from the Euros.
    Watch the collapse against Man City last season and there's a good enough reason for Gerrard's current state of mind. His boyhood club lost the league in those few minutes. He would have been a hero for all time. Stories would have been written, documentaries made etc etc.....The captain who never won the league, went on to win the league for Liverpool as a manager of another team. You wouldn't see it in Roy of the Rovers. And Mings had a brain snap, trying to be the hero for that hero and it went gone. Saying that though I think Gerrard's subs and change in formation were the real reasons for that loss...he should have gone for another goal on the break and killed the game off. Hindsight is a terrible thing.

  • @jamieharper2554
    @jamieharper2554 Рік тому +4

    Mings has a massive air of arrogance and scousers aren't a fan of arrogance

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Рік тому +1

      Funny cos they are arrogant.

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      From what we see of England training, Trent the Prince of Scousers really seems to like Tyrone (more than he likes most of the other current England players, besides Hendo ofc), so what you on about?

  • @DC-YTC
    @DC-YTC Рік тому +1

    The media were banking on a Bournemouth win so they could milk this more, you know after 8 games it will be, "Has Gerrard lost the dressing room"

  • @RefreshedBroccoli
    @RefreshedBroccoli Рік тому +10

    As a villa fan I’ve got to say Gerrard is poisoning the club there’s been no improvement from smith just more division. He’s signed the players he wants but still can’t get them playing well. He’s a joke will be sacked by October at this rate

    • @Reynolds69er
      @Reynolds69er Рік тому +3

      Jesus dude, it's one game into the season. We shouldn't have lost to a pants Bournemouth team but give it more than a game before coming to these conclusions

    • @Raptor-22
      @Raptor-22 Рік тому +2

      Poisoning? Joke? You are Aston Villa ffs. Humble yourself lad.

    • @PrideHDGaming
      @PrideHDGaming Рік тому

      @@Reynolds69er it’s the fact that’s nothing changed from the end last season

    • @Wicked_R
      @Wicked_R Рік тому

      They looked great when he took over from Smith though..so what happened?

    • @frankdux5693
      @frankdux5693 Рік тому

      @@Wicked_R new manager honey moon bounce. They should have tried to get a proper manager like howe

  • @markheitz7963
    @markheitz7963 Рік тому

    If SG has made his mind up Mings would be best moving whilst windows open coz can't see Gerrard changing his mind once he's put u out ur OUT

  • @captainhindsight6994
    @captainhindsight6994 Рік тому +1

    1 game into the new season and we've got a circus at the club, whether you think this is the correct decision or not, this is not a good situation and it's concerning

  • @danielhughes7359
    @danielhughes7359 Рік тому +2

    Martinez for me should of been our captain. I feel something has happened behind closed doors, he has had a free ride so far being at villa, he makes more mistakes than most defenders, that more than likely lead to a goal. Ming's just gets the ball and lumps it up the pitch. We should be aiming for better calibre of players

    • @wilbenson9007
      @wilbenson9007 Рік тому

      He also throws himself in front of everything. Partnered with a more nuanced player like Carlos - who can play the ball as well as well as being a wall - can only be a good thing. TM organises the defence well - he may make mistakes, but what defenders don't? The ones we had on the pitch on Saturday certainly did.

    • @danielhughes7359
      @danielhughes7359 Рік тому +1

      @@wilbenson9007 yeah I know what you mean. I'm hoping Gerrard is challenging him to be better and take him to the next level if he can

    • @wilbenson9007
      @wilbenson9007 Рік тому

      @@danielhughes7359 Fingers crossed. Mings and Carlos the strongest CB pairing at the club in my mind, shortly followed by Chambers - Konsa seems well off it at the minute. Saw someone posit that perhaps the reason for partnering Carlos with Konsa could be the fact that Ezri speaks a bit of Portuguese, but not sure if there's anything to it.

  • @scoonboon
    @scoonboon Рік тому +1

    Mings is clearly leaking things. Gerrard isn’t just spouting stuff out.. he’s being asked about it. Mings has made this what it is. I’d sell him.

  • @andyvilla4489
    @andyvilla4489 Рік тому +8

    Mings is a great guy but an awful defender. Great in the Championship where his size allows him to dominate but his actual defensive abiliities have repeatedly shown to be lacking in the Prem. Villa were never going to progress with him slipping up at the back repeatedly. He always has a glaring mistake in him every game he plays. He is directly involved in a very high percentage of Villa's conceeding soft/stupid goals continuously. With Diego Carlos purchased for over 30m and sure to play a new on pitch Capt had to be installed. The media is now calling this mismanagement!?! . While I don't believe Gerrard is doing a great job in terms of a) improving individual players or b) instilling a team style/identity - I do think in the long run he is correct to take Mings out of the team and therefore replace him as capt. The media seem to easily forget Ming's defensive frailties and determined to make up a story/create a tension where there is none. UTV

  • @grayalun
    @grayalun Рік тому

    100% it's personal his performances towards the end of last season weren't any worse than any others, it speaks volumes he hasn't even been spoken about falling out with other managers or coaches.

  • @johnancill7397
    @johnancill7397 Рік тому +2

    Ming's hasn't been playing well enough for a while now and Gerrard must have seen something in training to make that decision, this could be the kick up the backside he needs.

    • @Roy-xc1mz
      @Roy-xc1mz Рік тому

      While I agree and he’s prone to a mistake but if you actually watched Konsa last season he was putting mings into trouble. Konsa seems to have lost confidence after not getting in England squad and he’s scared of playing with the ball. He always panics and passes it on. Just watch Konsa closely.

  • @turbo3390
    @turbo3390 Рік тому

    How is it that mings is getting benched? His form has been solid and doesn’t deserve to be treated like this

  • @tedhazell
    @tedhazell Рік тому +7

    I’ve no huge issue with Mings losing the captaincy, by McGinn should have been chosen as Villa’s new captain let alone a mainstay in the starting 11.
    Villa massively missed out on Mings’ leadership

    • @Thailandfc24
      @Thailandfc24 Рік тому

      Should have been

    • @orourkedafootball
      @orourkedafootball Рік тому

      I don't think it would have made any difference. The whole team was awful and his presence would have made little to no difference

    • @villa_fan8882
      @villa_fan8882 Рік тому

      So how come we was so bad for the last 15 games of the season? Mings played in all of those games and we were just as bad! Mings was to blame for lots of goals last season. Allow the manager to make his decions, it’s his job on the lie and he can pick whatever captain he wants.
      Think before you comment because all you are doing is poisoning the club with negativity.

    • @tedhazell
      @tedhazell Рік тому

      @@villa_fan8882 could say the same to you pal - Mings wasn’t the problem and he isn’t the solution. Bournemouths second may not have been if Mings was there - never seen the man ball watch in my life unlike everyone else that day.
      I’ll support the club just as much as I did before, but in my opinion, McGinn isn’t captain material and also not the first name on the team sheet.
      Lets hope the results come in soon, as modern football lacks the patience some managers deserve

    • @wilbenson9007
      @wilbenson9007 Рік тому

      @@villa_fan8882 Steven, is that you?

  • @coolwater3238
    @coolwater3238 Рік тому +1

    Maybe he sees more in mings and is trying to draw out that level up in leadership.

  • @barbalaza8370
    @barbalaza8370 Рік тому +2

    Gerard has 90 minutes to save himself at Villa Park because Villa fans are running out of patience

    • @richardknows6763
      @richardknows6763 Рік тому

      At least they didn't increase the ticket prices....

  • @leviathon18
    @leviathon18 Рік тому

    This looks like could go either way for gerrard now, against bournmouth it looked like the players had their minds on different things the player power these days will decide gerrard's fate by xmas.

  • @DS-ty2nb
    @DS-ty2nb Рік тому +1

    Same thing should of happened when ronaldo returned to manchetser united imo as to what Ben said

  • @kevinbeck6785
    @kevinbeck6785 Рік тому +1

    Why do these so called pundits know everything about whats going on at aston villa

  • @goonern4644
    @goonern4644 Рік тому +1

    "Looks me in the eye" Wtf?
    Sorry Stevie G. You're speaking about a grown man here, not one of your daughters. F that.

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      Stevie really did come across as very condescending and rude saying it like that.

  • @sosafrom1790
    @sosafrom1790 Рік тому +1

    Talksport fc they need to do a amateur football team now

  • @lyndonsherwood
    @lyndonsherwood Рік тому

    All our problems is down to one man & this our manager ! He told we were having a good pre season so we are ready for day one of the season & now reality is we are in abit of a mess & win ratio of 35% is very poor ! Can't keep blaming the players utv

  • @Iggy4470
    @Iggy4470 Рік тому +1

    Now Conor Coady has gone to Everton, Mings will be off to Wolves and don't blame him tbh.

  • @sleepingwarrior4618
    @sleepingwarrior4618 Рік тому

    It could make or break Gerrard as the manager. It's a ballsey move for sure...we can but wait and watch how it unfolds.

  • @cureit9161
    @cureit9161 Рік тому +7

    This could be Gerrards downfall, big mistake in my opinion, as big a name as he has, he is not proven as a Manager, that does not mean he should be sacked but Gerrard is not listening to the fans, Mings has a mistake in him but for effort cannot be faulted, on Saturday we needed a leader and we were found wanting, the leader was on the bench!

    • @wilbenson9007
      @wilbenson9007 Рік тому

      Agreed - certainly in the way he has handled media since making the captaincy decision. The one major credit I felt he had was how he carried himself publicly, but this last week or so has been all over the shop. I'm concerned that he's unsettled the dressing room with a decision that I'm not sure that many thought necessary

    • @cureit9161
      @cureit9161 Рік тому

      @Truth Conspiracies did that have anything to do with Mings being back in the side??? Think about it.

  • @calumsmith7273
    @calumsmith7273 Рік тому

    Love it. SOTV

  • @joe9042
    @joe9042 Рік тому

    SG is a born 'winner' and hates to lose. So to me, if he thinks a player is not pulling his weight, he has the right, to voice. Obviously it could have done better. But tempers get frayed, sometimes. We're human beings.

  • @thetwitterlectual9528
    @thetwitterlectual9528 Рік тому

    What this kind of looks like is Gerrard has dropped Mings, and then they lose at Bournemouth. In truth, Villa have been on the slide for a while now, and have only won. 2 in their last 12, so he has to change it up. Other players may be getting dropped soon.

  • @kurze3215
    @kurze3215 Рік тому

    Is Ben Foster still playing for Watford?

  • @hegzneptune7327
    @hegzneptune7327 Рік тому +1

    Forget how good or bad you think mings is as a player or a captain...Gerrard has handled this situation poorly...hence all the media hype surrounding the situation.

  • @faz3019
    @faz3019 Рік тому

    What Stevie says goes!

  • @robj8201
    @robj8201 Рік тому

    He’d of been better keeping IT shut, look Gerrard in the eye and go prove him wrong.

  • @Baron-Ortega
    @Baron-Ortega Рік тому

    Ooof Woodsie looking fine

  • @declan_mc
    @declan_mc Рік тому

    Ben was amazing 🤩

  • @peaky237
    @peaky237 Рік тому +2

    It really wouldn't surprise me if Gerrard got sacked this season.

    • @andrewmartin2103
      @andrewmartin2103 Рік тому

      Don't see it he needs top eight amymore the owners need to get a grip.

  • @Adam-tb1rb
    @Adam-tb1rb Рік тому

    With the signings he won't play every week. Can't have your captain on the bench.

  • @ChrisGT19
    @ChrisGT19 Рік тому +1

    Sacked by crimbo , signing Diego Carlos and coutinho does not make a top ten side , the rest of the Premier league has massively evolved and I think there are 4-5 teams have not and villa is one of them !!

  • @pauliewalnuts5803
    @pauliewalnuts5803 Рік тому

    Fucking hell we scream managers don’t have balls and won’t strip awful characters it’s and when they do they get vilified

  • @kevinmasterson2960
    @kevinmasterson2960 Рік тому

    Don't understand all the fuss managers change there captains deal with it not like he's a top defender he's average at best

  • @jamesmilne8445
    @jamesmilne8445 Рік тому +3

    Mings is responsible for a lot of goals Villa have conceded

  • @haaland5303
    @haaland5303 Рік тому +1

    Gerrad want Macguire Level OF Captaincy

  • @mickhunt7885
    @mickhunt7885 Рік тому

    What's point in Gerrard being the if he can't implement his own ideas. If it doesn't work he will lose his job simple.

  • @davewoods908
    @davewoods908 Рік тому +1

    Ben foster has too much to say about Steven Gerrard I think the guy is obsessed with him

  • @paulbroady4141
    @paulbroady4141 Рік тому +1

    It screams of a manager being a manager and doing his job. Fact.. he did inherit mints as a captain, fact , the manger can choose who he wants as a captain, fact, a personal conflict is purely based on the opinion of a pundit. Fact , sorry guys , not many facts on this station.

  • @johnnyutah999
    @johnnyutah999 Рік тому +1

    Gerrard getting a very easy ride in the media due to his friends who are pundits. His record at villa is horrific. Similar to Gary Neville at Valencia. Check the stats

    • @jonnyhull7860
      @jonnyhull7860 Рік тому +1

      As a villafan m8 its shocking 2 wins in 13 matches 90 percent of villafans never wanted him he has not proved himself yet scottish league doesnt count its a joke league he will be 1st to be fired

  • @123fulRahul
    @123fulRahul Рік тому

    It screams of manager doing his job! Unlike at man utd, where Maguire is still captain.

  • @markprendergast1718
    @markprendergast1718 Рік тому

    Mings handled this with dignity and class he should come wolves lol

  • @samuellalla7020
    @samuellalla7020 Рік тому +1

    Both Mings and Coady getting moved on… yet Southgate will still pick them

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      They play well on the pitch together in the England B team tbf. Could pick worse reserves.

  • @patrickfay4310
    @patrickfay4310 Рік тому +2

    He loves to trow a player under the bus

  • @RenewedRS
    @RenewedRS Рік тому +2

    TalkSPORT deleted a comment about this being a political thing between mings and gerrard lol

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      Tyrone's a Conservative? Would be a shock to learn that was true.

    • @RenewedRS
      @RenewedRS Рік тому

      @@pendafen7405 much rather the opposite but i think you knew that?
      People think Gerrard is racist

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      @@RenewedRS nope, genuinely didn't know or even assume that. Thanks for the explanation.

  • @edwardtrunk5596
    @edwardtrunk5596 Рік тому +1

    Mings will bleat racism, he always does

  • @thorntonovski
    @thorntonovski Рік тому

    Doesnt look good from the outside. Dont think gerard will outlast mings. Relegation battle coming got a few wuid on villa yo dtop @ 11/1. Poor tail off last year

  • @Youknowthevibez-vq6qw
    @Youknowthevibez-vq6qw Рік тому +1

    Mings to Everton to partner Cody… you heard it here first

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      Seriously they'd play the best football of their lives together at club💕soulmates aren't they

  • @aguywithaview
    @aguywithaview Рік тому +2

    Really worked for Villa having Mings stripped of captaincy. If Gerrard don't want him lots of teams would take him in a heartbeat.

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Рік тому

      Would love to see Tyrone at Everton, or West Ham.

  • @sillyoldhector
    @sillyoldhector Рік тому

    Just move on. Mings statement was gracious, drop off in form is clear and he was talked up by media previously for the medias own reasons.

  • @jol284
    @jol284 Рік тому

    Ming's isn't going to be guaranteed starter how could he be a captain?

  • @johnphelan6623
    @johnphelan6623 Рік тому

    He wouldn’t be my captain either frankly. And…. I don’t think he was “stripped” of the captaincy, he just wasn’t HIS captain

  • @funkoninja1422
    @funkoninja1422 Рік тому

    think Gerrard will be found out this season, the villa board will not give him time 🤩