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Finally i can get rid of monitor loop...i was so irritated by these sounds that when i try to record my vocals after editing my voice i could hear that hiss sound... Thanks a lot brother
holy heck dude, I was stuck on this for ages! I thought I'd never get a break from the buzz! This vid saved mah butt, turns out them being plugged into the same outlet makes a HUGEEEE difference. Thanks man, really REALLY appreciate this vid
Ohhhh my GOD you are a lifesaver!!! I got new KALI AUDIO speakers and started to hear a glitch sound (which I didn't hear on my iLoud speakers.) Everytime I moved my mouse or pushed up and down on the keyboard, I would hear the glitchy sound even more. Currently using the RCA inputs until my TRS cables arrive. After this video I started unplugging wires and learned that my HDMI monitor was the issue. Turns out these speakers don't mix well if the HDMI monitor is plugged in to the same powerstrip. SO the solution was to plug the HDMI monitor into a different power source (which so happens to be on the same wall outlet) Problem solved... Thank you sir!
I had my interface plugged into a usb extender. I switched it directly to my laptop and it instantly helped. this is actually such a helpful video and one of the coolest things ive learn as a producer. so clutch!!
Thanks for this. Had continuous low-end, low-volume hum in my speakers. Simply replacing the cables with balanced XLR's immediately stopped the problem.
I had my eris e5 speakers on different multi-plugs thinking "they should share different electricity for better sounding" and was having high pitched noise from the twitter just like how you've demonstrated on the video. After plugging them into same plugs, it now works perfectly. Thank you so much for the video!!!!! Would have wasted my money on a stabilizers.
I had the same issue, and it was coming from my TP-LINK router. it was so close to my HS7 speakers. I just disabled my WIFI and there is no more noisy sound. Thank you FireWalk for this video.
I have the same hiss and buzz in both Yamaha HS50M monitors of mine - the computer interference and the buzz. I also use the HS10W Subwoofer. I've had the problems for at least 8 years and have invested money and time into trying to fix it without success. Through different houses, and different cables (I have balanced cables). My audio interface is the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 - previously another Focusrite (same issues, I've really changed everything; the house, cables, interface, computer - the speakers themselves are the only thing I haven't changed in the 8 years!). I have tried everything without the subwoofer hooked up, by the way. Of course the subwoofer introduces more potential for signal problems, but it makes no difference with or without. What removes the computer noise for me is by plugging my cables part way into the audio interface - they have to be in an EXTREMELY precise position and angle; it reduces it to a white hiss and the computer noise goes entirely - but I believe this may also reduce the audio signal - it becomes quieter. This leads me to believe that the general noise I hear is coming from my computer - and that gizmo which breaks the computer ground loop seems promising. My interface connects to the computer via USB C so I'll need that variant. Any recommendations? I would actually invest a significant amount into a setup with performance akin to my HS50Ms which is silent - I am prepared to buy new studio monitors if required - the problem has made using them a very rare event for me.
The only thing that worked for me is lifting the ground from the speakers using those 3 prong to 2 prong adapters they sell at the hardware store for $2 a piece. Also running the monitors off a laptop got rid of the electrical noise. I'm also using the Yamaha HS50M monitors with the subwoofer. Things I have tried; I changed houses, changed outlets, different brand balanced cables (XLR and TRS cables), Power conditioners (Furman PST-6 and the SS6B), new all metal PC case, unplugged the router and modem completely, turned off the power to every other circuit in my house, new mouse keyboard and display monitor, new motherboard in computer with audio interface/DAC specific USB ports, removed the Nvidia graphics card, grounded pc case directly into outlet, lifting the ground of the pc but not the speakers, and the Ifi Defender to lift the ground of my audio interface (Native instruments Komplete audio 6). I also tried dozens of software side troubleshooting such as disabling audio, Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, messed with every windows and BIOS setting I could, but nothing helped and none of the things I listed made a noticeable difference. Before lifting the monitors ground prongs, there were like 4 different types of noise that I could head, a rhythmic once per second "zap", static when ever I moved the mouse, clicking when the CPU was working, and when the GPU was underload the sound was just chaotic and unbearable. When I plug my guitar into the audio interface, use a high gain amp simulator program, and I put the guitar within 4 feet of the computer, the guitar's pickups also hear the electrical noise and reintroduce it into the audio signal which is then effected by the volume of the system/speakers, where as the normal electrical noise being picked up by the HS50Ms before I lifted the ground were not effected by any volume setting.
Thank you! Just bought rather expensive monitors to replace my old ones and was aghast to hear horrible hiss! Changed to balanced XLRs and voile, hiss gone! Thanks!!
Worked!! I fixed my issue by just wiggling and moving my cables to my speakers around which probably was too close to another power cable in the back of my PC.
Like #1000 for saving me a massive headache! Just cut down 60% of the noise in my right monitor by plugging them in to the same power strip. Left one is fine, right still has a little, but it's not driving me mad anymore lol. Big thanks.
I had the computer noise with moving the mouse, etc. Turns out putting the computer and video monitor on a different outlet from everything else cleared it up for me. Another commenter suggested this, and it worked for me! Thanks! Note that I had everything in one outlet before (everything on one power strip).
this video helped me so much. in my case is it was a ground loop, the spekers are buzzing with mouise movements,, but while i put everything in one power socket, the ground loop was just gone!! 👍👌❤️❤️
@@FireWalkMusic Update: balanced cabled did the trick. Bought the ones you recommended, though I imagine any would have served. I also ordered the iFi, and am considering cancelling the purchase, but I'm curious as to whether it will 100% eliminate the slighttttt hiss i hear when leaning into the speaker. Cheers
My Yamaha HS8's picked up the radio and it was a good tune. Looks like the cables are acting like an antenna and the monitors are just amplifying it. Good video and it cured my noise so thanks. Also try your monitors on a different socket than the rest of you equipment as that worked too.
First of all, thank you so much. You are a literal GOD. I'm having the first problem (electrical noise from the computer), the monitors (KRK ROKIT 5 G4) are doing this exact same noise, and I was already going completely schizophrenic trying to figure out what to do. I'm pretty sure the cables I'm using are not good and very likely not balanced, so first thing I'll try is buying the cables in your description. I hope this solves the problem, because the iDefender simply does not exist for sale where I live. Also, my computer is a beast and somewhat near to the audio setup, so I don't know how I could mitigate the problem if the cables don't work. I don't have many things plugged in tho, just keyboard and mouse, mic and a wireless headset. I was about to call an ambulance when I found your video, so I'm feeling a little more optimistic now. Thanks again, man.
How did things work out for you? I have the same speakers and noise from computer issue but it only seems to happen while playing games. The noise will also be more significant if I'm running the game at higher frame rate. My cables are unbalanced
Good balanced cables solved 200.0% of my problems. Sounds are perfectly crystal clear now, no matter what. I bought the Monoprice ones he put in the video description. Amazing cables.
This is a great video, running into a weird issue where only my right monitor has computer noise. I've switched cables, power outlets, and even fully switched out to a different set of monitors and running into the same issue. iDefender seems like my best bet, but was curious if you had any insight before I pulled the trigger?
Definitely sounds like a ground loop issue. I personally prefer the GND defender because it doesn't require an external power source. You just plug it into the back of the computers power supply (see the link in the description). I once had a 50 Hz buzz in only one monitor once. Changing the outlet for that monitor fixed the issue. If that didn't work then most likely you'll need the GND defender or the idefender (they both do the same thing).
After watching, I did some troubleshooting of my own. I realized that the noise was being caused by my usb mouse. Replaced it, problem solved. Thank you.
Thank you so much, It helped me to change to a USB interface sound card, I can’t believe that the stupid buzz sound is totally away, Thank you for walking through this sound challenge, The only sound now is the fan😅
SUPER SUPER SUPER helpful. Never used to have issues with my monitors .. thought it was my RAM not keeping up with ProTools, etc. Factory reset my PC. Nope. Just a power loop issue lol😂
THANK YOU! My Adam T7Vs had hum just as you described... I plugged both into the same outlet and no more hum!!! Suggestion: you might add to your video that certain applications such as music keyboard require Unbalanced cables.
Hi, Very very informative video, i am also dealing with the same issue i have connected my JBL LSR310s Subwoofer to my Edifier R1700BTs speakers to my desktop but my problem is when i insert the half jack the speakers are working and buzzing along too but when i fully insert them the sound quality is loss but the buzzing stops no idea what to do?
1:11 well....that explains it. Thank you so much. I'm using Mogami cables so knew it had to be something else. This noise has been driving me insane!!!
Just connected monitor to a different socket from smart decoder and the noise is gone,great advice, a volt guard connected from main socket to extension was causing the noise, thanks
Intrigued to try the idefender. Ive used my monitors with multiple wire combinations and several pcs to troubleshoot the noise. It turns out that i have an extra whiney GTX 1080 or Corsair PSU on my main rig. So thanks for this video, i hope it works.
Thanks so much! Dimmers was my issue. My right monitors started the same exact sound you have on that part of the vid. And just followed your instructions.
If your audio interface has a power option separate from USB data, I HIGHLY recommend you use it. I eliminated so much buzz just by swapping to the alternate power plug and use USB only for data.
Hello thanks for making the video. I've just bought my first monitor Adam Tv5 and even though it sounds amazing, there is a constant gain stage like noise in the background. Even if I unplug it from my apogee element it stays on. Is this normal?
Thank you very much for sharing this. I simply removed the audio signal cable while the speaker is on and while the computer is off and moved the cable away from power cables and the "radio like" noise is gone.
So I had the second sound in the ground loops in audio setup section, bought the iDefender and has largely fixed the issue, (though I still can't record my bass guitar far enough away from my computer to stop it from picking up the interference) however I still have a very annoying high pitched whine that comes from my left speaker after audio playback even watching just youtube. I switch the balanced TRS cables around and now it comes out of my right speaker. Additionally, all these problems only started after my laptop broke and I built my own desktop. I have everything plugged into one power bar and have tried multiple different wall outlets in my home. I've read that poor grounding in the wall outlet itself could possibly cause ground looping issues and the laptop battery in my laptop was acting similar to how the idefender was working as in it was giving the USBs a clean source of power to break the ground. Idk I'm very confused and any help is appreciated!
Good tip! Cell phones can indeed cause unwanted interference. This is also the case if you place it too close to the monitor itself, or on top of it for example. The cell phone is constantly communicating, so that's not ideal. Another somewhat unrelated thing is that cell phones in general can often kill creativity. It's best to just put it out of sight altogether when producing, so that you don't get distracted. :)
@@FireWalkMusic In today's world the pc constantly connected to the internet is the number one creativity killer that is why i am looking for a standalone hardware like the Akai force to keep me focused in music.Thanks again for all the knowledge
@@baroufess yeah, I know several people who have their production rig disconnected from the internet entirrely. You're welcome, glad you found it helpful :)
I watched your video. Good presentation. My issues are: 1. My Tube Guitar amp has a loud, what sounds like a ground loop. I've tried different outlets and different guitars. This is with all other devices in the studio off. 2. When my PC Vidoes monitors are on the noise gets real loud. Any suggestions?
Great video thank you. A quick question... I have the same issue now with my Yamaha HS7. I just ordered the iFi defender, but I'm a bit concered about the connection. Even if it works fine, have you experienced any dropouts from the audio interface because of it? Is the audio quality the same after it? Thanks
Instead of plugging the USB power of my PC speakers into the PC's usb ports, I used a regular usb charging cube on the power strip as the power source. This cured all of the static and whining noise I was getting, including the mouse cursor interference. The speakers are dead silent now when idling. Hope this helps somebody.
hi-thanks for the excellent video-im setting up my new studio running my audio out through the 1/8 stereo output on my iMac (mid-2010 iMac) and I'm getting some nasty interference that didn't happen with a similar setup before-the 1/8th stereo headphone output on the rear of the iMac is being split into two mono RCA plugs and then into two 1/4 mono plugs(left/right) going into the back of an Alexis power amp connected to a pair of monitor-one speakers -there was zero noise with this system before, but I was using a tower with a smaller monitor-my new 27" monitor is quite large and closer now-each speaker is maybe 8" from the outer edge of the monitor on each side-i've tried moving the computer away from the speakers, but the noise persists (a constant medium-volume static punctuated by occasional spikes) there is no interference listening through headphones from this output or from the built-in speakers-something to do with power source... is shielding the issue? the monitors are rather old-would better cables help?-i'll try plugging the amp directly into wall socket (noise persists though slightly lower) any ideas?😀
Hi, it definitely sounds like a ground loop issue. I would try this: geni.us/GND-defender Just plug it into the power supply of your computer and then plug the power cord into it again. It should effectively break any DC ground loop introduced into the system. It's an intelligent device that maintains safety, it's not a ground lift. In some cases, you might need more than one. For example, if you're using an external guitar amp then you might need one there as well.
Thank you so much, I believe the USB is my issue. Once it's plugged out, the noise is gone. Once plugged in noise comes so I'll buy the USB thingy to see if it fixes
Very informative, thanks. I had a slight "flutter" noise on my right side KRK monitor (KRK V8's hooked up to I MAC) that was driving me crazy. I found out the monitor was too close to the internet modem. I moved the modem 3 feet away and the flutter went away!
Hi! This was very informative. 👌 My challenge is that I have old school Yamaha NS10's and they are wired with pink speaker wire. So I am not sure how to go about troubleshooting a monitor ground loop hum with that? Any ideas are more than welcome???🙏 Thanks! 😃
Hi, there im having issues with my yamaha studio monitor..high pitch random noise..connected xlr from my hotone guitar processor output..will try some of your ideas..thanks
I'm getting that issue with the noisy USB. I suppose I can try buying that iDefender, but the frustrating part is that I wasn't getting this noise before I got a new desk. So I'm guessing there is a better configuration I need to find again, or something suddenly broke while in the desk switch. Thanks for the video! I'll reply again if I fix my issue (otherwise it's back to mostly using headphones).
thank u so much, 1 year with this buzzing sound from speaker when playing game in PC, after see this video, i thinking to buy iF iDefender, but before that, i try to plug the speaker usb power to my phone charger adapter to power outlet instead of pc usb port to give a try, and now the buzzing sound was gone
I run my PC from a rack that also holds my Scarlett 2i2 that runs into a Behringer power amp, then out to unpowered DA speakers with decent 12 gauge speaker wire. I get only the most barely perceived noise when moving my mouse around the screen. When I play a game on the computer, the noise kicks into overdrive- to the point of distraction. When I listen through headphones plugged into the audio interface, there is never any noise whatsoever. I have tried listening for noise change while rerouting cables to no effect. I never knew about the iDefender+, but I now have it on on order and will try that next.
My left monitor has volume+ low end issues. Once I enable my Yamaha HS5, I hear a soft white noise on both monitors. Once I disable my monitors, they make a "POP" sound. Do I have to purchase the XLR? Btw amazing video!
Hi, the pop sound can sometimes happen when you turn them off. There shouldn't be any sustsined white noise though. Is it still there if you disconnect the signal cables so that they are only powered?
@@FireWalkMusic Thank you for the quick response! I just took my TRS cable out on both monitors and I still hear noise/white noise on both monitors whilst they're powered. What do I have to do next?
@@luverdomusic6316 I would try it in a different room. If it's the same there then try it somewhere else, at a friends place for example to see if it goes away
@@FireWalkMusic Hi again, sadly it didn't work. Also do you know what the problem is with my left monitor? The volume & low end are not as loud as my right monitor. I look forward to hearing from you soon :)
Hey dude, thanks for the video. Recently moved and once I plugged my equipment into the new place I'm getting a bad computer noise sound. Ive messed around to find the source and even plugging one hs8 directly into the wall without any connection to the computer or my focus rite causes the horrible sound. That makes me think the amazon item you suggested won't help. No dimmers in the room. Every wall plug has the same issue. Any suggestions?
funny timing. i was just about to send the idefender back (i ordered it including the ipowerX power supply) as i thought it wasnt working. following your vid i noticed that i should have payed attention to the lil instruction booklet. i had it connected directly to the interface instead the usb hub ^^ iE the other way around. (my iDefender is USB-C to USB-C thus it may be less obvious which way to connect) turns out it works as intended afterall when used the rigth way ;)) kudos!
none of the mentioned I'm facing a weird noise that only happens when I change the volume with the sound card, and it only happens when changing the volume I would be very happy to get some help. Thank you for your video and for your time!
I assume you're using an external sound card? It sounds like it could be a faulty potentiometer for the volume knob on your sound card. Should be covered by warranty.
Thanks so muchInteresting solution. However I have this hissing and noise when moving a mouse or just for fun from my studio computer to a Presonus Firewire 16.0.2 Mixer ... is ther also such a ifi iDefender (or something similar) for Firewire?
Hi, it definitely sounds like a ground loop issue between your computer and the audio interface and or monitors. Since you have firewire the idefender won't work. I recommend using this instead: geni.us/GND-defender You'll need one for each monitor. Alternatively, you might get away with using just on directly on the computer itself.
So it sound like I have the monitor ground loop sound when you played the examples. My setup is PC speakers powered by outlet and connected by 3.5 mm to L/R TRS into an audio interface that then goes into my laptop. I've tried 3 things to reduce the buzzing which work but the idefender is an another option. A few things I did was first, the speakers are plugged into a surge protector that also has EMI/RFI noise filtering as I have other things plugged around like laptop, monitor, PS5 so trying to reduce the electrical noise. I also have a ground loop isolator which is a little attachment and it plugs into 3.5 mm so I have that connecting the speakers, and I have my audio interface plugged with a USB cable that has ferrite cores on it which should filter out noise. Again, buzzing has been greatly reduced and only is audible now when I crank the speaker volume up. Have no idea if iDefender will completely remove the buzzing but its going to be a try with Amazon's return policy if it doesn't work.
The computer's power supply might be on its way out with worn capacitors like you shown and can cause big problems later on. I changed the power supply, and the noise was significantly reduced and changed in character. I also got the most unholy radio interference attempting to use a SATA disk outside of the computer case. I would transmit the video card's pulses and was not good if an OpenGL window was opened. It's a miracle that the electronics inside the computer work, and I don't know how it is shielded if some front panels in CD bays are missing, but it seems to be ok. The old standard was to put the sound card in the bottom most slot away from the video card.
hey awesome video. I have noise just on the monitors and not on headphones. If i understood this correctly if the issue would be with the audio interface itself (and could be solved with iDefender probably) then i would also have it on the headphones? Also i notice it is way stronger on graphically intense games and gone when there is nothing going on. So i guess it must be related to the gpu somehow. I have XLR cables running into Yamaha HS50m. Are those XLR cables always balanced?
Sounds like a ground loop for sure. Headphones won't be affected because they are not independently powered, unlike the monitors, so they won't create any loop. Both the idefender and the gnd defender should take care of this.
Thanks for the idea- hope it works! Really hope it's not my expensive mixer that is on the fritz =( Mine sounds like USB ground loop interference. It showed up when I installed a new graphics card into the system and have been chasing it down for many days now.
Could you please make a video on how a full lead and pad sounds should look like on span using sylenth1 or how to manipulate presets to get a full sound without harshness, Thank you.
This was helpful, appreciate it. The issue I'm having (yamaha hs5's and scarlett 2i2) the left monitor gets fuzzy when I turn the volume up or down and sounds less precise than the monitor on the right. Sounds kind of like a ball or tire losing air. I've tried new cables (1/4" trs & am now running XLR) as well as switching the left and right monitor but haven't had any luck.
@@FireWalkMusic No i haven't yet but I have a feeling that's exactly what it is. Because the issue will go away and return later regardless of cables or which monitor is on the left or right
Thanks for the advice. I knew the hum was from my Scarlett Solo (it works fine with my other laptop with the same monitors) but didn't know how to go about the problem. Hopefully the iFI iDefender will solve the issue. Thanks!
I I'm using dual TRS to 3.5 mm Jack going into my computer and I've got that computer noise do you think balanced XLR version of what I have would work better?
Balanced cables are always recommended. If you have computer noise like the example in the video then Balanced cables probably won't be enough. I recommend using the idefender (for usb audio interfaces) or the gnd defender to break the ground loop. You'll find the amazon links for those devies in the video description.
Hi! I run a DJ setup on a non grounded socket (dont have any in my complex) I suspect thats were all my noise i comming from, do you have any advice on how to deal with non-grounded powergrids to remove electrical noise?
I just set up my new Edifier MR4's.... I have them plugged in to a power bar under my desk that is tucked up on a cable management tray to avoid the spider web of cables that come down if I dont... I also have a computer as well as a PS5 I'm trying to use these monitors for.... the only way to do this out of the box is to plug them into the back of my monitor (because my PC is plugged into my main [screen] monitor and the PS5 needs to run on the same main [screen] monitor). I realized the amp or dac that is built into the monitor is very low power so the volume is not loud enough... I have to crank it to 100% most the time which shouldn't be the case with 4" woofers and a 1" tweeter... Was considering buying a separate dual input AMP/DAC to bring the audio to both the PS5 as well as the PC... not sure if that is the right way to solve this.... don't want to buy until i know... I also plan on buying the Sennheiser HD 600s or 650s as an upgrade for my headphone set up after another couple paycheques clear... so I will also need a headphone jack on whatever device I buy and that device must be powerful enough to handle my PC, Edifier MR4's and my HD 600s. Only the PC and PS5 are used at the same time and if need be I can use my lil bluetooth speaker while using the amp/dac to power the PS5 audio if the device can't do both at the same time. I just don't like having to unplug and plug things in and I like my cables neatly managed so I need a very unique solution... any ideas from someone scrolling thru this that's gotten to this point in this essay of a question... first of all thanks for letting me ramble i promise not to send you a copy of my book when I write it.. jk I cant write a book... but please let me know if you know of a product that can help me
Thank you very much. Unfortunately my brandnew Yamaha HS8 are buzzing for a different reason. They buzz/humm even without being connected to any other device. I tried all plug sockets in my apartment and connected them to the same as well as to different ones. The buzz is also there if only is plugged in at all. I also removed the wlan modem and switched off all other electric devices... It doesnt help at all... And the buzzing Im talking about is not that quiet humming some monitors have. its really loud and you hear it even when the music is playing.....
Useful video! I have that computer noise, increasing and decreasing when CPU work changes. My audio interface us AC powered, so I guess the USB filter will not work. Tried unplugging all computer ports, home phone, router, etc. Is there any solution for AC powered audio interfaces? I also have an old USB powered audio interface. Connecting the monitors to this old one with a USB filter and sending monitor output of the AC powered one thru the old one may work? I guess not. Thanks!
Hi, the iFi idefender+ only works on USB powered audio interfaces. In your case I would try this instead: geni.us/GND-defender Just plug it into the power supply on your PC and then put the power cord into it again. It should take care of the problem. It's more expensive than the Idefender though, but it should work. :)
thank you. LISTEN UP CLOSELY. Im a Cable Management kind of guy and had all my cables tied up in zip wires. My Speakers power cable and its audio cable have been skin to skin touchen. after separating the two it was all fine. TRY IT
Hi, yes, oth the idefender+ and the GND defender will fix this. If you have the money then go for the GND defender because it's less of a hassle since it doesn't need external power. You just plug it into the back of the computers PSU. Check out my updated video about this here: ua-cam.com/video/einxGsiuwso/v-deo.html
Thanks, I managed to get rid of the terrible loud hissing noise by connecting the interface directly to the laptop instead of through a USB hub. But now there is a small constant hissing sound even when I am not playing any sound. I have noticed that the monitors make this small hissing sound even when not connected to the interface, very likely a ground loop problem but switching power outlets doesn't work at this point.
Just switched from old windows 7 machine with zero sound problems to a brand new build (Win10, B650m Riptide, 4080 super, jupiter pro m case). My sound problem's from my Line in input. Well, the cpu/gpu sounds are amplified and audible when I plug a cable into the line in input on the MB. Ive tried disconnecting all usb's, HDMI's, mouse etc, tried all plugged into 1 outlet, tried disabling all audio devices. Tried un installing driver for Realtek audio, this stopped the sound, or rather reduced it down to a minimal volume but could hear it if I was up close to the speakers, but then I couldn't use Line in atall, which I need. Someone suggested getting a Soundcard, but I have no room for 1. Been 2 weeks now... GOING CRAZY!
Hi, i'm curious if you solved your problem. If not,try to change (just for testing) your 4080 for a cheap old GT710 or similar. My Problems (hissing,buzzing,even audio latency) occured first after i had installed my 3090.
My speaker is a pair of Roland MA-12C. I used an USB DAC to source them, and I can hear lousy computer noise. After inspection, it was due to the ground loop running through the power strip. I try 2 2-3 prong adapters for my MA-12Cs and solved the problem. If you have similar issue, I'd recommend the 2-3 prong adapter before buying the expensive iFi USB isolator.
There are many cheap filters that can work well, however they often affect the sound too, so you might lose some low-end for example, which is not ideal. If going for a filter then I wouldn't recommend the cheapest ones. I generally recommend the IFI ones because they deal with the problem at the source, rather than trying to filter it out from the signal after the damage has already occurred, which can negatively affect the audio itself. The ifi idefender and GND defender are more expensive, but they don't alter the audio in any way.
@@FireWalkMusic The iFi idenfender which I believe is a ground breaker. It has a bridge rectifier with a capacitor inside. This is better than a simple 2-3 prong adapter if safety is our concern.
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iF iDefender+ for USB audio interfaces: geni.us/idefender
Balanced XLR monitor cables: geni.us/monoprice104761
iFi GND intelligent ground loop breaker: geni.us/GND-defender
When all else fails, try the iFi GND defender! It intelligently removes DC ground loops without sacrificing safety. It can be plugged into your computer, studio monitors, guitar amps and so on and works much the same way that the iFi Idefender+. See the link above.
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him: as you can hear my noise that i had is gone
me who hears my studio monitor's noises: i cant confirm that sir
Try your headphones instead, they won't be affected by the ground loop like your monitors. :)
Me: ok...
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Depends. I sometimes had coil whine (headphones plugged directly into PC), especially after long sessions, but not always.
Finally i can get rid of monitor loop...i was so irritated by these sounds that when i try to record my vocals after editing my voice i could hear that hiss sound... Thanks a lot brother
Glad you found it helpful! 🙂
I’ve been dealing with this for YEARS but I just didn’t know what to search for. I wish I found your video sooner.
Glad you found it helpful 😀
@@FireWalkMusic Not only did the XLR cables fix my issue, it also made everything louder and clearer! :D
@@johkonut Great! Glad you got it sorted! :D
holy heck dude, I was stuck on this for ages! I thought I'd never get a break from the buzz! This vid saved mah butt, turns out them being plugged into the same outlet makes a HUGEEEE difference. Thanks man, really REALLY appreciate this vid
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful! :)
Ohhhh my GOD you are a lifesaver!!! I got new KALI AUDIO speakers and started to hear a glitch sound (which I didn't hear on my iLoud speakers.) Everytime I moved my mouse or pushed up and down on the keyboard, I would hear the glitchy sound even more. Currently using the RCA inputs until my TRS cables arrive.
After this video I started unplugging wires and learned that my HDMI monitor was the issue. Turns out these speakers don't mix well if the HDMI monitor is plugged in to the same powerstrip. SO the solution was to plug the HDMI monitor into a different power source (which so happens to be on the same wall outlet) Problem solved... Thank you sir!
You're welcome! Glad you found the video helpful! :)
I had my interface plugged into a usb extender. I switched it directly to my laptop and it instantly helped.
this is actually such a helpful video and one of the coolest things ive learn as a producer. so clutch!!
Glad you found it helpful! :)
Thanks for this. Had continuous low-end, low-volume hum in my speakers. Simply replacing the cables with balanced XLR's immediately stopped the problem.
Great! Glad you found it helpful 👌👍
I had my eris e5 speakers on different multi-plugs thinking "they should share different electricity for better sounding" and was having high pitched noise from the twitter just like how you've demonstrated on the video. After plugging them into same plugs, it now works perfectly. Thank you so much for the video!!!!! Would have wasted my money on a stabilizers.
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful! :)
I found this video for the same issue on the same speakers and putting them all on the same plug fixed it. Thanks!
I had the same issue, and it was coming from my TP-LINK router. it was so close to my HS7 speakers. I just disabled my WIFI and there is no more noisy sound.
Thank you FireWalk for this video.
You're welcome! :)
i have definetly experienced the 60hz hum thing at my old schools auditorium, i think that mightve added to my trauma of me being scared of speakers
Whaaaat. I can't believe all that buzzing noise went away just from plugging my speakers into the same outlet/power source! Thanks!!
You're welcome 😊
I have the same hiss and buzz in both Yamaha HS50M monitors of mine - the computer interference and the buzz. I also use the HS10W Subwoofer.
I've had the problems for at least 8 years and have invested money and time into trying to fix it without success. Through different houses, and different cables (I have balanced cables).
My audio interface is the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 - previously another Focusrite (same issues, I've really changed everything; the house, cables, interface, computer - the speakers themselves are the only thing I haven't changed in the 8 years!). I have tried everything without the subwoofer hooked up, by the way. Of course the subwoofer introduces more potential for signal problems, but it makes no difference with or without.
What removes the computer noise for me is by plugging my cables part way into the audio interface - they have to be in an EXTREMELY precise position and angle; it reduces it to a white hiss and the computer noise goes entirely - but I believe this may also reduce the audio signal - it becomes quieter. This leads me to believe that the general noise I hear is coming from my computer - and that gizmo which breaks the computer ground loop seems promising.
My interface connects to the computer via USB C so I'll need that variant.
Any recommendations? I would actually invest a significant amount into a setup with performance akin to my HS50Ms which is silent - I am prepared to buy new studio monitors if required - the problem has made using them a very rare event for me.
The only thing that worked for me is lifting the ground from the speakers using those 3 prong to 2 prong adapters they sell at the hardware store for $2 a piece. Also running the monitors off a laptop got rid of the electrical noise.
I'm also using the Yamaha HS50M monitors with the subwoofer. Things I have tried; I changed houses, changed outlets, different brand balanced cables (XLR and TRS cables), Power conditioners (Furman PST-6 and the SS6B), new all metal PC case, unplugged the router and modem completely, turned off the power to every other circuit in my house, new mouse keyboard and display monitor, new motherboard in computer with audio interface/DAC specific USB ports, removed the Nvidia graphics card, grounded pc case directly into outlet, lifting the ground of the pc but not the speakers, and the Ifi Defender to lift the ground of my audio interface (Native instruments Komplete audio 6). I also tried dozens of software side troubleshooting such as disabling audio, Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, messed with every windows and BIOS setting I could, but nothing helped and none of the things I listed made a noticeable difference.
Before lifting the monitors ground prongs, there were like 4 different types of noise that I could head, a rhythmic once per second "zap", static when ever I moved the mouse, clicking when the CPU was working, and when the GPU was underload the sound was just chaotic and unbearable.
When I plug my guitar into the audio interface, use a high gain amp simulator program, and I put the guitar within 4 feet of the computer, the guitar's pickups also hear the electrical noise and reintroduce it into the audio signal which is then effected by the volume of the system/speakers, where as the normal electrical noise being picked up by the HS50Ms before I lifted the ground were not effected by any volume setting.
It worked!! I just plugged one monitor power cord into a different socket and it stopped...THANK YOU!!
You're welcome, glad you got it fixed 😀
Thank you! Just bought rather expensive monitors to replace my old ones and was aghast to hear horrible hiss! Changed to balanced XLRs and voile, hiss gone! Thanks!!
You're welcome! :)
This video is incredible. Haven't solved my issue yet but this gives me a lot of hope
Thanks, I hope you'll sort it out! :)
Worked!! I fixed my issue by just wiggling and moving my cables to my speakers around which probably was too close to another power cable in the back of my PC.
Like #1000 for saving me a massive headache! Just cut down 60% of the noise in my right monitor by plugging them in to the same power strip. Left one is fine, right still has a little, but it's not driving me mad anymore lol. Big thanks.
Glad you found it helpful 🙂
subtle plug to the #1000 hashtag ;)
@@FireWalkMusic big time! thanks again
Thanks for the helpful video! I switched the outlet of my monitors so that my new PC is not on the same power source & now it works
Glad you found the video helpful 😊
I had the computer noise with moving the mouse, etc. Turns out putting the computer and video monitor on a different outlet from everything else cleared it up for me. Another commenter suggested this, and it worked for me! Thanks! Note that I had everything in one outlet before (everything on one power strip).
Glad you got it sorted! Indeed, just changing outlets will often cure these kinds of problems.
I had a tiny amount of ground noise. Te problem vanished like magic once I connected them to the same outlet. Thank you!
You're welcome 😊
Thank you! I was running my audio interface through a USB hub instead of directly into the computer and that solved my issue!
You're welcome! 🙂
Changing the port to other USB-C on my mac solved the problem, i had a USB-C hub with all my conections including a Focusrite. Thanks a lot!
This helped, it was the power outlet lol, changed it and the buzz was gone. Thanks man very helpful video
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful 😀
this video helped me so much. in my case is it was a ground loop, the spekers are buzzing with mouise movements,, but while i put everything in one power socket, the ground loop was just gone!! 👍👌❤️❤️
Glad you found the video helpful! :)
I'll get back to this comment when I figure out which solution worked for me. Thanks for the comprehensive video.
Thanks, you're welcome 🙂
@@FireWalkMusic Update: balanced cabled did the trick. Bought the ones you recommended, though I imagine any would have served. I also ordered the iFi, and am considering cancelling the purchase, but I'm curious as to whether it will 100% eliminate the slighttttt hiss i hear when leaning into the speaker. Cheers
Wow, I literally just touched the cable and it stopped buzzing. Dayum, you're the chief mate 😎
will be getting the iDefender after seeing this! life saver
Hi, glad you found the video helpful! :)
My Yamaha HS8's picked up the radio and it was a good tune.
Looks like the cables are acting like an antenna and the monitors are just amplifying it.
Good video and it cured my noise so thanks.
Also try your monitors on a different socket than the rest of you equipment as that worked too.
Indeed. Often times it's a quick and easy fix fortunately. It just goes to show how sensitive audio setups can be.
actually worked by just plugging audio interface directly into computer usb port
First of all, thank you so much. You are a literal GOD. I'm having the first problem (electrical noise from the computer), the monitors (KRK ROKIT 5 G4) are doing this exact same noise, and I was already going completely schizophrenic trying to figure out what to do. I'm pretty sure the cables I'm using are not good and very likely not balanced, so first thing I'll try is buying the cables in your description. I hope this solves the problem, because the iDefender simply does not exist for sale where I live. Also, my computer is a beast and somewhat near to the audio setup, so I don't know how I could mitigate the problem if the cables don't work. I don't have many things plugged in tho, just keyboard and mouse, mic and a wireless headset. I was about to call an ambulance when I found your video, so I'm feeling a little more optimistic now. Thanks again, man.
How did things work out for you? I have the same speakers and noise from computer issue but it only seems to happen while playing games. The noise will also be more significant if I'm running the game at higher frame rate. My cables are unbalanced
Good balanced cables solved 200.0% of my problems. Sounds are perfectly crystal clear now, no matter what. I bought the Monoprice ones he put in the video description. Amazing cables.
@@linhaplana Thanks for the swift reply. I'll look into getting some good balanced cables myself
This is a great video, running into a weird issue where only my right monitor has computer noise. I've switched cables, power outlets, and even fully switched out to a different set of monitors and running into the same issue. iDefender seems like my best bet, but was curious if you had any insight before I pulled the trigger?
Definitely sounds like a ground loop issue. I personally prefer the GND defender because it doesn't require an external power source. You just plug it into the back of the computers power supply (see the link in the description).
I once had a 50 Hz buzz in only one monitor once. Changing the outlet for that monitor fixed the issue. If that didn't work then most likely you'll need the GND defender or the idefender (they both do the same thing).
After watching, I did some troubleshooting of my own. I realized that the noise was being caused by my usb mouse. Replaced it, problem solved. Thank you.
Thank you so much,
It helped me to change to a USB interface sound card, I can’t believe that the stupid buzz sound is totally away,
Thank you for walking through this sound challenge,
The only sound now is the fan😅
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful 🙂
fixed all the noise on my studio speakers by using x2 TRS 1/4 jacks straight into the audio interface. Thanks!
SUPER SUPER SUPER helpful. Never used to have issues with my monitors .. thought it was my RAM not keeping up with ProTools, etc. Factory reset my PC. Nope. Just a power loop issue lol😂
THANK YOU! My Adam T7Vs had hum just as you described... I plugged both into the same outlet and no more hum!!! Suggestion: you might add to your video that certain applications such as music keyboard require Unbalanced cables.
Glad you got it sorted! :)
Wow.. ive dealt with this for so long.. and the whole time i just had to plug then both into the same strip… thank you!!!
You're welcome 🙂
I had a ground loop issue thanks for the good video
Hi, Very very informative video, i am also dealing with the same issue i have connected my JBL LSR310s Subwoofer to my Edifier R1700BTs speakers to my desktop but my problem is when i insert the half jack the speakers are working and buzzing along too but when i fully insert them the sound quality is loss but the buzzing stops no idea what to do?
For me, it was the cables. Balanced cables did the trick. Thanks!
You're welcome, glad you got it sorted! :)
Switching to an alternative usb power source for my speakers solved my issue. Thank you
1:11 well....that explains it. Thank you so much. I'm using Mogami cables so knew it had to be something else. This noise has been driving me insane!!!
You're welcome. Glad you got it sorted 😃👍
Just connected monitor to a different socket from smart decoder and the noise is gone,great advice, a volt guard connected from main socket to extension was causing the noise, thanks
Intrigued to try the idefender. Ive used my monitors with multiple wire combinations and several pcs to troubleshoot the noise. It turns out that i have an extra whiney GTX 1080 or Corsair PSU on my main rig. So thanks for this video, i hope it works.
You're welcome 🙂
Thanks so much! Dimmers was my issue. My right monitors started the same exact sound you have on that part of the vid. And just followed your instructions.
Holy crap... I almost spent a ton of money trying to solve a "plug it into a different outlet issue".. thank you my homie!
Glad you found it helpful! 😁
If your audio interface has a power option separate from USB data, I HIGHLY recommend you use it. I eliminated so much buzz just by swapping to the alternate power plug and use USB only for data.
my audio interface (steinberg ur12) has 2 power option and i tried it but it didnt work.
Hello thanks for making the video. I've just bought my first monitor Adam Tv5 and even though it sounds amazing, there is a constant gain stage like noise in the background. Even if I unplug it from my apogee element it stays on. Is this normal?
Thank you very much for sharing this. I simply removed the audio signal cable while the speaker is on and while the computer is off and moved the cable away from power cables and the "radio like" noise is gone.
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful 😀
So I had the second sound in the ground loops in audio setup section, bought the iDefender and has largely fixed the issue, (though I still can't record my bass guitar far enough away from my computer to stop it from picking up the interference) however I still have a very annoying high pitched whine that comes from my left speaker after audio playback even watching just youtube. I switch the balanced TRS cables around and now it comes out of my right speaker.
Additionally, all these problems only started after my laptop broke and I built my own desktop. I have everything plugged into one power bar and have tried multiple different wall outlets in my home. I've read that poor grounding in the wall outlet itself could possibly cause ground looping issues and the laptop battery in my laptop was acting similar to how the idefender was working as in it was giving the USBs a clean source of power to break the ground. Idk I'm very confused and any help is appreciated!
Also if you have an external usb audio card keep your cell phone away from it.Nice tips man thank you
Good tip! Cell phones can indeed cause unwanted interference. This is also the case if you place it too close to the monitor itself, or on top of it for example. The cell phone is constantly communicating, so that's not ideal.
Another somewhat unrelated thing is that cell phones in general can often kill creativity. It's best to just put it out of sight altogether when producing, so that you don't get distracted. :)
@@FireWalkMusic In today's world the pc constantly connected to the internet is the number one creativity killer that is why i am looking for a standalone hardware like the Akai force to keep me focused in music.Thanks again for all the knowledge
@@baroufess yeah, I know several people who have their production rig disconnected from the internet entirrely. You're welcome, glad you found it helpful :)
I watched your video. Good presentation. My issues are:
1. My Tube Guitar amp has a loud, what sounds like a ground loop. I've tried different outlets and different guitars. This is with all other devices in the studio off.
2. When my PC Vidoes monitors are on the noise gets real loud.
Any suggestions?
Great video thank you. A quick question... I have the same issue now with my Yamaha HS7. I just ordered the iFi defender, but I'm a bit concered about the connection. Even if it works fine, have you experienced any dropouts from the audio interface because of it? Is the audio quality the same after it? Thanks
Instead of plugging the USB power of my PC speakers into the PC's usb ports, I used a regular usb charging cube on the power strip as the power source. This cured all of the static and whining noise I was getting, including the mouse cursor interference. The speakers are dead silent now when idling. Hope this helps somebody.
BUZZ GONE!! Plugged both speakers into the same power strip and Voila…BUZZ GONE!! Thanks!
You're welcome 🙂
Now to fix a hi pitch squeal being caused by an effects switch on my mixer. Got any ideas for that?
Thank you, your explanation is very clear.
You're welcome 😀
hi-thanks for the excellent video-im setting up my new studio running my audio out through the 1/8 stereo output on my iMac (mid-2010 iMac) and I'm getting some nasty interference that didn't happen with a similar setup before-the 1/8th stereo headphone output on the rear of the iMac is being split into two mono RCA plugs and then into two 1/4 mono plugs(left/right) going into the back of an Alexis power amp connected to a pair of monitor-one speakers
-there was zero noise with this system before, but I was using a tower with a smaller monitor-my new 27" monitor is quite large and closer now-each speaker is maybe 8" from the outer edge of the monitor on each side-i've tried moving the computer away from the speakers, but the noise persists (a constant medium-volume static punctuated by occasional spikes)
there is no interference listening through headphones from this output or from the built-in speakers-something to do with power source...
is shielding the issue? the monitors are rather old-would better cables help?-i'll try plugging the amp directly into wall socket (noise persists though slightly lower)
any ideas?😀
Hi, it definitely sounds like a ground loop issue. I would try this: geni.us/GND-defender
Just plug it into the power supply of your computer and then plug the power cord into it again. It should effectively break any DC ground loop introduced into the system. It's an intelligent device that maintains safety, it's not a ground lift.
In some cases, you might need more than one. For example, if you're using an external guitar amp then you might need one there as well.
Thank you so much, I believe the USB is my issue. Once it's plugged out, the noise is gone. Once plugged in noise comes so I'll buy the USB thingy to see if it fixes
Very informative, thanks. I had a slight "flutter" noise on my right side KRK monitor (KRK V8's hooked up to I MAC) that was driving me crazy. I found out the monitor was too close to the internet modem. I moved the modem 3 feet away and the flutter went away!
Hi! This was very informative. 👌 My challenge is that I have old school Yamaha NS10's and they are wired with pink speaker wire. So I am not sure how to go about troubleshooting a monitor ground loop hum with that? Any ideas are more than welcome???🙏 Thanks! 😃
Hi, there im having issues with my yamaha studio monitor..high pitch random noise..connected xlr from my hotone guitar processor output..will try some of your ideas..thanks
I'm getting that issue with the noisy USB. I suppose I can try buying that iDefender, but the frustrating part is that I wasn't getting this noise before I got a new desk. So I'm guessing there is a better configuration I need to find again, or something suddenly broke while in the desk switch. Thanks for the video! I'll reply again if I fix my issue (otherwise it's back to mostly using headphones).
thanks bro my speakers digital cpu type loud noise is gone
Now i fee a Mind Peace
No hmm or buzz sound totally Dead Silence
Your idea is working
You're welcome 😀
thank u so much, 1 year with this buzzing sound from speaker when playing game in PC,
after see this video, i thinking to buy iF iDefender, but before that, i try to plug the speaker usb power to my phone charger adapter to power outlet instead of pc usb port to give a try, and now the buzzing sound was gone
I run my PC from a rack that also holds my Scarlett 2i2 that runs into a Behringer power amp, then out to unpowered DA speakers with decent 12 gauge speaker wire. I get only the most barely perceived noise when moving my mouse around the screen. When I play a game on the computer, the noise kicks into overdrive- to the point of distraction. When I listen through headphones plugged into the audio interface, there is never any noise whatsoever. I have tried listening for noise change while rerouting cables to no effect. I never knew about the iDefender+, but I now have it on on order and will try that next.
My left monitor has volume+ low end issues. Once I enable my Yamaha HS5, I hear a soft white noise on both monitors. Once I disable my monitors, they make a "POP" sound. Do I have to purchase the XLR? Btw amazing video!
Hi, the pop sound can sometimes happen when you turn them off. There shouldn't be any sustsined white noise though. Is it still there if you disconnect the signal cables so that they are only powered?
@@FireWalkMusic Thank you for the quick response! I just took my TRS cable out on both monitors and I still hear noise/white noise on both monitors whilst they're powered. What do I have to do next?
@@luverdomusic6316 I would try it in a different room. If it's the same there then try it somewhere else, at a friends place for example to see if it goes away
@@FireWalkMusic Hi again, sadly it didn't work. Also do you know what the problem is with my left monitor? The volume & low end are not as loud as my right monitor. I look forward to hearing from you soon :)
Hey dude, thanks for the video. Recently moved and once I plugged my equipment into the new place I'm getting a bad computer noise sound. Ive messed around to find the source and even plugging one hs8 directly into the wall without any connection to the computer or my focus rite causes the horrible sound. That makes me think the amazon item you suggested won't help. No dimmers in the room. Every wall plug has the same issue. Any suggestions?
funny timing. i was just about to send the idefender back (i ordered it including the ipowerX power supply) as i thought it wasnt working. following your vid i noticed that i should have payed attention to the lil instruction booklet. i had it connected directly to the interface instead the usb hub ^^ iE the other way around. (my iDefender is USB-C to USB-C thus it may be less obvious which way to connect) turns out it works as intended afterall when used the rigth way ;)) kudos!
Glad you sorted it out! :D
none of the mentioned
I'm facing a weird noise that only happens when I change the volume with the sound card, and it only happens when changing the volume
I would be very happy to get some help.
Thank you for your video and for your time!
I assume you're using an external sound card? It sounds like it could be a faulty potentiometer for the volume knob on your sound card. Should be covered by warranty.
@@FireWalkMusic and how should i solve it?
cheers for the video , my hero .. can you make another video showing how to silence kids in the studio !!
Finally, I know how to fix that damn noise...! Thanks :>
You're welcome :)
Thanks so muchInteresting solution. However I have this hissing and noise when moving a mouse or just for fun from my studio computer to a Presonus Firewire 16.0.2 Mixer ... is ther also such a ifi iDefender (or something similar) for Firewire?
Hi, it definitely sounds like a ground loop issue between your computer and the audio interface and or monitors. Since you have firewire the idefender won't work.
I recommend using this instead: geni.us/GND-defender
You'll need one for each monitor. Alternatively, you might get away with using just on directly on the computer itself.
So it sound like I have the monitor ground loop sound when you played the examples. My setup is PC speakers powered by outlet and connected by 3.5 mm to L/R TRS into an audio interface that then goes into my laptop. I've tried 3 things to reduce the buzzing which work but the idefender is an another option. A few things I did was first, the speakers are plugged into a surge protector that also has EMI/RFI noise filtering as I have other things plugged around like laptop, monitor, PS5 so trying to reduce the electrical noise. I also have a ground loop isolator which is a little attachment and it plugs into 3.5 mm so I have that connecting the speakers, and I have my audio interface plugged with a USB cable that has ferrite cores on it which should filter out noise. Again, buzzing has been greatly reduced and only is audible now when I crank the speaker volume up. Have no idea if iDefender will completely remove the buzzing but its going to be a try with Amazon's return policy if it doesn't work.
The computer's power supply might be on its way out with worn capacitors like you shown and can cause big problems later on. I changed the power supply, and the noise was significantly reduced and changed in character.
I also got the most unholy radio interference attempting to use a SATA disk outside of the computer case. I would transmit the video card's pulses and was not good if an OpenGL window was opened. It's a miracle that the electronics inside the computer work, and I don't know how it is shielded if some front panels in CD bays are missing, but it seems to be ok.
The old standard was to put the sound card in the bottom most slot away from the video card.
Thank you so much !!!!! Had to plug mine into the same power outlet/bar
Aah, the peace and quite after simply (...) removing the laptops power supply away from my cables. Wonderful. Thx for this vid!
You're welcome 🙂
BTW, in your case, the gnd defender will likely remove the noise even with the cable plugged in. :)
hey awesome video. I have noise just on the monitors and not on headphones.
If i understood this correctly if the issue would be with the audio interface itself (and could be solved with iDefender probably) then i would also have it on the headphones?
Also i notice it is way stronger on graphically intense games and gone when there is nothing going on. So i guess it must be related to the gpu somehow.
I have XLR cables running into Yamaha HS50m. Are those XLR cables always balanced?
Sounds like a ground loop for sure. Headphones won't be affected because they are not independently powered, unlike the monitors, so they won't create any loop. Both the idefender and the gnd defender should take care of this.
Thanks for the idea- hope it works! Really hope it's not my expensive mixer that is on the fritz =( Mine sounds like USB ground loop interference. It showed up when I installed a new graphics card into the system and have been chasing it down for many days now.
Could you please make a video on how a full lead and pad sounds should look like on span using sylenth1 or how to manipulate presets to get a full sound without harshness, Thank you.
Thanks for the suggestion! :)
Thanks a whole lot! Haven't solved my issues yet, but at least I know what's the root cause. Cheers from the cold North :)
This was helpful, appreciate it. The issue I'm having (yamaha hs5's and scarlett 2i2) the left monitor gets fuzzy when I turn the volume up or down and sounds less precise than the monitor on the right. Sounds kind of like a ball or tire losing air. I've tried new cables (1/4" trs & am now running XLR) as well as switching the left and right monitor but haven't had any luck.
Have you tried it on any other audio interface?
@@FireWalkMusic No i haven't yet but I have a feeling that's exactly what it is. Because the issue will go away and return later regardless of cables or which monitor is on the left or right
Thanks for the advice. I knew the hum was from my Scarlett Solo (it works fine with my other laptop with the same monitors) but didn't know how to go about the problem. Hopefully the iFI iDefender will solve the issue. Thanks!
I I'm using dual TRS to 3.5 mm Jack going into my computer and I've got that computer noise do you think balanced XLR version of what I have would work better?
Balanced cables are always recommended. If you have computer noise like the example in the video then Balanced cables probably won't be enough. I recommend using the idefender (for usb audio interfaces) or the gnd defender to break the ground loop. You'll find the amazon links for those devies in the video description.
Hi! I run a DJ setup on a non grounded socket (dont have any in my complex) I suspect thats were all my noise i comming from, do you have any advice on how to deal with non-grounded powergrids to remove electrical noise?
I just set up my new Edifier MR4's.... I have them plugged in to a power bar under my desk that is tucked up on a cable management tray to avoid the spider web of cables that come down if I dont... I also have a computer as well as a PS5 I'm trying to use these monitors for.... the only way to do this out of the box is to plug them into the back of my monitor (because my PC is plugged into my main [screen] monitor and the PS5 needs to run on the same main [screen] monitor).
I realized the amp or dac that is built into the monitor is very low power so the volume is not loud enough... I have to crank it to 100% most the time which shouldn't be the case with 4" woofers and a 1" tweeter...
Was considering buying a separate dual input AMP/DAC to bring the audio to both the PS5 as well as the PC... not sure if that is the right way to solve this.... don't want to buy until i know... I also plan on buying the Sennheiser HD 600s or 650s as an upgrade for my headphone set up after another couple paycheques clear... so I will also need a headphone jack on whatever device I buy and that device must be powerful enough to handle my PC, Edifier MR4's and my HD 600s. Only the PC and PS5 are used at the same time and if need be I can use my lil bluetooth speaker while using the amp/dac to power the PS5 audio if the device can't do both at the same time.
I just don't like having to unplug and plug things in and I like my cables neatly managed so I need a very unique solution... any ideas from someone scrolling thru this that's gotten to this point in this essay of a question... first of all thanks for letting me ramble i promise not to send you a copy of my book when I write it.. jk I cant write a book... but please let me know if you know of a product that can help me
Thank you very much. Unfortunately my brandnew Yamaha HS8 are buzzing for a different reason. They buzz/humm even without being connected to any other device. I tried all plug sockets in my apartment and connected them to the same as well as to different ones. The buzz is also there if only is plugged in at all. I also removed the wlan modem and switched off all other electric devices... It doesnt help at all...
And the buzzing Im talking about is not that quiet humming some monitors have. its really loud and you hear it even when the music is playing.....
Useful video!
I have that computer noise, increasing and decreasing when CPU work changes. My audio interface us AC powered, so I guess the USB filter will not work. Tried unplugging all computer ports, home phone, router, etc. Is there any solution for AC powered audio interfaces?
I also have an old USB powered audio interface. Connecting the monitors to this old one with a USB filter and sending monitor output of the AC powered one thru the old one may work? I guess not.
Thanks!
Hi, the iFi idefender+ only works on USB powered audio interfaces. In your case I would try this instead: geni.us/GND-defender
Just plug it into the power supply on your PC and then put the power cord into it again. It should take care of the problem. It's more expensive than the Idefender though, but it should work. :)
thank you. LISTEN UP CLOSELY. Im a Cable Management kind of guy and had all my cables tied up in zip wires. My Speakers power cable and its audio cable have been skin to skin touchen. after separating the two it was all fine. TRY IT
Very helpful information thanks
You're welcome :)
Hi, I seen the GPU sound intro but I dont see it adressed directly in the video, will the idefender solve the GPU sound issue?
Hi, yes, oth the idefender+ and the GND defender will fix this. If you have the money then go for the GND defender because it's less of a hassle since it doesn't need external power. You just plug it into the back of the computers PSU.
Check out my updated video about this here: ua-cam.com/video/einxGsiuwso/v-deo.html
@@FireWalkMusic thank you, I dont have the money for the GND but I do havr lots of older low power bricks that can take an usb cable
@@theblackcat4941 Great! Most 5v phone chargers will get the jobe done too.
Great thanks! i fixed it my cable was next to the power and hdmi cable from my monitor!
Glad you got it sorted! 😃👌
Best bro, Good luck man🌺
Thanks 🙂
A lot of recognition! I got a big reduction just changing the usb cable. And I ordered and aliexpress ground loop isolator for the last bit.
Thanks for the explanation, iDefender helped me filter out the VGA noise finally. :)
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful 😀
Thanks, I managed to get rid of the terrible loud hissing noise by connecting the interface directly to the laptop instead of through a USB hub. But now there is a small constant hissing sound even when I am not playing any sound. I have noticed that the monitors make this small hissing sound even when not connected to the interface, very likely a ground loop problem but switching power outlets doesn't work at this point.
Any updates for your case? My new Logitech Z625 does exactly the same problem as yours lol. Heard an external ground loop could help it tho
can you make a video about phase in mixing? also more mixing videos
Noted! :D
Just switched from old windows 7 machine with zero sound problems to a brand new build (Win10, B650m Riptide, 4080 super, jupiter pro m case). My sound problem's from my Line in input. Well, the cpu/gpu sounds are amplified and audible when I plug a cable into the line in input on the MB. Ive tried disconnecting all usb's, HDMI's, mouse etc, tried all plugged into 1 outlet, tried disabling all audio devices. Tried un installing driver for Realtek audio, this stopped the sound, or rather reduced it down to a minimal volume but could hear it if I was up close to the speakers, but then I couldn't use Line in atall, which I need. Someone suggested getting a Soundcard, but I have no room for 1. Been 2 weeks now... GOING CRAZY!
Hi, i'm curious if you solved your problem. If not,try to change (just for testing) your 4080 for a cheap old GT710 or similar. My Problems (hissing,buzzing,even audio latency) occured first after i had installed my 3090.
My speaker is a pair of Roland MA-12C. I used an USB DAC to source them, and I can hear lousy computer noise. After inspection, it was due to the ground loop running through the power strip. I try 2 2-3 prong adapters for my MA-12Cs and solved the problem. If you have similar issue, I'd recommend the 2-3 prong adapter before buying the expensive iFi USB isolator.
There are many cheap filters that can work well, however they often affect the sound too, so you might lose some low-end for example, which is not ideal. If going for a filter then I wouldn't recommend the cheapest ones. I generally recommend the IFI ones because they deal with the problem at the source, rather than trying to filter it out from the signal after the damage has already occurred, which can negatively affect the audio itself. The ifi idefender and GND defender are more expensive, but they don't alter the audio in any way.
@@FireWalkMusic The iFi idenfender which I believe is a ground breaker. It has a bridge rectifier with a capacitor inside. This is better than a simple 2-3 prong adapter if safety is our concern.
Thanks for the video, getting balanced cables fixed my issue!