Emile Salmon-Legagneur I didn’t agree with their answer either. There is vision on dragon. They could take herald, dive with Alistar and Malphite and then siege since Ashe is fed. They could send Kayn to solo drag while they siege too.
I thought bork was bought to counter tanks because it does % hp dmg meaning it does much less against squish targets e.g twitch, Lucian, jayce. blitz generally doesn't buy a lot of hp. would it not be better going crit build?
I managed to get each one right...! Including the trick question. x) Thank you for helping me think like a pro! Wouldn't have been here if I hadn't found you guys and adopted your thinking style.
I really like this style of video and I had a fairly good plan about the whole game and decisionmaking. However since you want to teach us I'd personally prefer it if you don't do trick-questions or likewise. At first I thought "Wait why would he ever go mid?!" but then decided to just go along. It's rather frustrating than teaching
All this time I’ve been honoring the wrong players! I should’ve been honoring the poor souls I flamed wrongly when they were just trying to help my mental. :(
Toxic Apple this is %100 needed video!! Some people pls if you are feeding as fuck, let your good teammated carry you, you do not need to carry all games by yourself.. learn how to get carry if you are having a bad game.
Play safe, play to keep your fed teammate fed, dont try solo stealing drag when the enemy has all 5 on it and you are 0/8/0. Dont push ahead in lanes without vision but try to push lanes and establish vision around objectives as you can.
Me during trick question: oh he should stay Skill capped: recall or through jungle Me: oh I guess I was wrong. Recall I guess Skill capped: *l e t r o l l*
so funny that he says everytime: unfortunately his team dies here. This is so true in Plat elo it's crazy. It feels like you can never leave your team "alone" for 2 minutes or else they feed, especially as a jungler xD
Yep. I feel you. The drag for soul is about to spawn in 30 secs and for some reason ur mid and top decide to 2v5 giving them the soul or stopping ur team of getting it.
I was playing in a game where 2 teammates got picked off mid and enemy started sieging second mid turret. Instead of going to help I kept split pushing toplane, and I actually got all 3 turrets and inhibitor and we didn't even lose the inhibitor, with my team actually randomly defending it after respawns. Really cool how it works, although it requires some ignoring of teammate pings and flames.
@@falsealarm747 no it doesnt that adc pushing down a tier 2 tower alone is like the most free kill for the enemy team even the lowest elo assasin would know he should totally get that kill
i was thinking, better to recall since they could catch me in a 3v1... then i saw ashe's cooldowns, you can threw vision to secure your way... when i was thinking that, the trick question was revealed, i could have got it if i had more time DX
@@BlaxeFrost-X U dont get so much time ingame. Those decisions need to be quick to be viable otherwise u lose the opportunity. In ur case u may have channeled back change ur mind and started to move bot end up getting near turret and collapsed on
These were my answers to the questions you answered, and these are usually the thoughts that go through my head as I try to drag myself out of bronze lul: 1:20 question: mid to pressure, bot to defend/catch the wave, dragon to contest 2:08: recall to _reset_ since mid is likely gone, or continue shoving the wave while you can see their whole team then skedaddle once you can't see them anymore 3:25: i don't have a big understanding of macro/micro just yet, so i guessed macro lol 4:43: i feel like usually you only go to a lane after rift herald if you can immediately take the tower, but the safer option is typically just recall 7:35: there was no one on the map, and with a twitch that just screams the whole team is comin for you lol he overstayed This was kinda fun comparing my thoughts vs your guide, and I can be satisfied knowing I at least have a good mindset for climbing, now I just need to practice more.
3:45 I don't agree. Instead of 2v3ing (5 MIA) for no objective, he should walk back through lane, take Gromp (pulling it downwards) and recall for BF or Zeal. With bot already pushed, he should then head to Rift. Micro could be better but the whole scenario makes no sense when they have a fairly easy win through more conservative play. Anyway, I agree with the rest of the video and this is a good format.
Totally agreed with this, I'm sure someone like xSFN Saber would have watched that and said that he is making a mistake by putting himself in a position where it is POSSIBLE to lose, which shouldn't be the case especially when you are carrying so singularly. That wasn't a 90% play, it was a maybe 75% play as evident by his Alistar fucking up and him misjudging it even being challenger or whatever.
You're correct, and they straight out contradict with everything they taught in their previous video: ua-cam.com/video/2npXKOKFwu8/v-deo.html "don't take fights that can go wrong from one micro mistake"
Another major thing in Solo Q is when 1 person is fed and in base the 4 others play fights as if their team is ahead, even though locally thos particular 4 champions are behind the enemy 4 champions they are fighting.
The river question after the herald: i would have stayed cause i see three enemies in a bunch and two more in mid, i understand that the three are probably gonna cut the team apart, leaving half and half and killing both .
yeah i agree... he should team-up, coz he'z already fed and teamfight with a fed character will be easy... plus with a tempo of Herald push... it'z better to be protected by 3 more teammates rather to be protected by only one Alistar...
the correct answer was clearly go mid, use herald and get TWO towers not just one, they could even get a hit on the inib tower (third one is only possible because it's low elo) because it opens the map way more and since they have syndra, ashe arrow and malphite ult it's free facecheck kills when they threaten baron ...
@@ryohei9027 Yeah Twitch just died and Singed is on the other side of the pit from his team. It was fairly obvious that his team would go for the fight. If hector had helped, he could have gotten a takedown or two nd then have extra tim e to get the top tower.
Yesterday, I decided to put pressure in my lane instead of going to a lost team fight by a tower that was about to fall anyway. Top went afk 10 seconds later.
u gotta remember that optimal play isnt always optimal since sometimes you have to play a mental safety manager and make plays that satisfy your team even if they are less profitable on paper
@@jamesm4957 depends on ur team mental obviously, if u have people bout to rq it's better to join aram mode, especially if u are ahead and can carry teamfights, u might get less objectives albeit u obviously lose less if ur team is bout to int
@@fkutw4tt3rtub3 like, you have to min max value. If your play turns into a situation that you can basically 4v5 from, than you do it anyway as it doesnt matter if top went afk 10 seconds later.
3:20 it was both. After getting bot tower and with dragon off the map the next big objective is top tower / herald. When your team is not putting preasure anywhere on the map since they just respawned and the enemy just recalled there is actually no reason to stay. Even if they kill maybe 2 and die again the rest the bounty might land on a carry. Also respawn timers are still so low that they would never actually preasure the bot inhib tower. Another reason to not stay there. 4:50 how about using your Hawk Shot to get the information to make an educated decision? There is just no excuse to not use Hawk Shot there. So yes you could see that there is a threat of a teamfight when you see the rest of the enemy team just running at your mates if he would have used his ability.
I think even in competitive game or a challenger the correct play is still do that because the position make his team can't lose (yea these plat guys just sucks) and even if they all go top to kill him they're just trade their tower (potentially 2 because his team got herald) for just a shutdown which is not a good trade at all
well he said its, thats not how you snowball in low elo, but the elo doesnt really matter. Thats how to snowball. even more important in high elo, as every little snowball opportunity missed could be a comeback opportunity for the enemy team to use.
1:18 lets be honest here going bottom isn't the right call i think. What you would in this sittuation is pinging the the syndra to go bottom and clear out the wave while he and bliz push out mid with kayn waiting near by and clearing vision at either drake or herald (pref. drake since the soul is still more valuable) if he would have done that there would have been a chance for him to either contest drake or at least get some dmg on mid turret and chicken camp him going bottom is loosing tempo on the map since he is fed and wants to use this now to get more pressure on objectives and force the enemies to react (side note the vision to bot is really good so it is more unlikely for syndra to get picked again)
Tip for low elo up to d4 0lp. If you see the situation when 2 teams are close and you want to take top tower for free gold think again. Your team will engage. Doesnt matter if its 4v5 or if you're the only player with items, they will engage. The avg IQ in these elos is so low they wouldnt even get accepted at mcdonalds
In fairness if you pause this video at 4:15 you can see enemy team are ahead, with multiple having bounties on them etc, and malph really behind Singed etc.
About crossmapping and baron. I guess sometimes it is good to trade inhibitor and baron. Like, your teammates died and you can't contest baron, off course you should push your waves just to reduce the damage from the baron buff. Stretch the time. I played some games where I was on the baron side of this decision(I'm low elo), my team almost aced, went to baron, took a lot of time to kill it. While everyone is in baron, the opponent is taking inhibitor. He gets the open base and inhibitor and sometimes we can't compensate that with the baron buff.
I guess there should always be one champion defending and the rest finishes baron. Sometimes it is difficult if you have 2 or 3 champs and 2 sources of damage.
@5:40 I don't agree that going top is the right one. (My own opinion, excuse everyone.) An no dash adc (Kog, twitch, ashe) is required ALWAYS to be with the team. This is for 2 things, #1, in case a fight breaks, he's there as the damage dealer and #2, he will get protection in case of ganks. Also since mid tower is up, I believe the proper play should be take herald, get mid tower. That way, with both Tier 1 mid + tier 1 bot gone, they have a priority with Dragon. If you have bot tower down and top tower down, the objectives are still not secured. Mid tower + side tower gives you more edge on objective priorities since the opponent needs to defend farther (tier 2 towers) before going with objectives. This also gets you the advantage to push vision.
Side note, if he's a split pusher (trynda, jax or my main Yorick) the correct would be going top. Pushing through sidelanes is your job and since dragon is also up, it gives your opponent a hard choice, go top and defend tier 1 or go def mid with herald then dragon?
Everyone in solo q constantly does the hindsight thing. Every time a decision is made that is correct at the time but the team dies faster than you can anticipate it's your fault. Every time the jungler seems to be close but decides to suddenly turn direction after you commit to a fight. Every time your team is 4v3 and you splitpush and team loses its your fault for not helping the teamfight.
He is aware of where the enemy team is. He's got plenty of vision and his E as well. Alistar is pathing bot and because he's fed, every enemy is reluctant to make the first move and walk bot instantly. Nobody can 1v1 him. Someone on the enemy team has to ping that they're going for ashe. That way they might follow, but i doubt it since they just had a fight mid and probably just wanna back. You should be aware of all these things when trying to make such a play.
In the trick question i thought recall and go mid but if I was actually playing I wouldve pushed as i got no map awareness that enemy is pushing, then get tower and get collapsed on.
The macro/micro question feels like the wrong thing to ask. He was already ahead and had money in pocket. He can try to stay and win the 60:40 2v3 or respect the risk losing current lead 40% of the time isnt worth getting slightly more ahead 60% of the time.
At min 3:20 play, it's a macro mistake. You don't ever path that way. If you want to not waste time and path that way anyway just because you're fed, you shouldn't be thinking "oh, if i flash this i win". There's no reason to waste flash on a play that they can't convert into anything. Yes they could go for mid turr but they can do it even if the enemy is alive, since they're ahead. He also didn't need to insta flash. If the enemy flash and misses u just waste flash. Flash after you get hit there, and before jayce Q. He coulda turned it around that way, p sure. So i guess it's a macro mistake that led to a micro one. But they didn't touch on that
the first question i saw malph going top and kayn clearing top side jung and ashe had already got bot tower so i would have pinged rift, rushed it with malphite, kayn and myself (Ashe) then hard shoved top with malph, kayn and rift. after we got the top tower i assume at least 2 people would roam up to deff (hopefully one of which being the jungler) so i would ping for malph and kayn to roam mid shove the wave into tower and then go get drake after which reset as we have essentially just gotten 4 objectives in a very short amount of time meaning a large amount of gold. after the reset drake isnt up, neither is rift, top and bots 1st tier towers are gone and ashe, malph and kayn have a good item lead due to that large gold amount they just got so i would try and all 5 mid and take that first tier tower mid as they will find it hard to win a fight contesting the tower when we have such a large lead. after that i would try and snowball my gold and objective lead by shoving lanes in when objectives are coming up so they have to deff and then rushing drakes and rifts/barons as the shoved in lanes will force at least 1 person to deff and if we have been farming right we still have a gold lead so if they took a 4v5 to contest they would lose 90% of the time. this is what i personally would do however i have had games where even with all this we lose so pls let me know what about this plan of action is wrong?
so I kind of got all questions right. the ones I got wrong were just me mis interpreting the vague questions. Currently returning from a half year break, I'm going through placements in iron and I cannot carry no matter how fed I get. they don't place any wards and just aram. never go to a side lane. always chase into no vision... like what do you do when someone keeps mirroring you on the map while team runs it down
1:30, you dont want to go bot to catch that wave, if you have a lead and bot tower gone then you want to go top with your malphite and alistar to force down top turret for rift herald prio. With malphite and ali as hard engage for the fed ashe, taking out singed/forcing him off is a cake walk. Syndra has full resources and is a zoning/burst mage that can zone a few of them off of the warded dragon if they try to trade objectives. Sharing farm is not a concern, you want to push your lead, not sit on it and slowly increase your personal economy by farming bot lane and accomplishing nothing.
But then you risk Lucian pushing bot turret and you end up trading turrets 1 for 1 which is not ideal either. The correct play is to inform Syndra to go bot (she can hold it alone), and go mid/top yourself. So you're correct, but you were missing that SOMEONE needs to catch the bot wave, that someone should've been Syndra :)
Markus Meskanen nah if you trade top for bot it’s worth because after you group kid with herald and then start making aggressive wards in their jungle, he can take botnlol
Tbh i would have gone mid not for the snowball but for the map taking 2 towers in mid its huge and you can win if they throw cause the distance in mid its rly low
im a Adc main in gold 1 and Im safe to say Im hardcore stuck... As a adc main it very hard to carry teammates when they have no idea how to pick teamfights. While watching this I've seen some stuff I should do, let see if I can get out of this elo
I'd say that at 3:40 it was a micro-mistake, but more pathing related. There's no reason for him to path through the jungle near blitzcrank there, he should've just backed off
However, if you get advantage with adc and split in 2:20, most of the time your low elo mid and sup will not give up the mid tower and die together with the turret. Then, the enemy saw you split pushing top, so they continue to push mid and you will lose both turrets. After all, due to the inherent level advantage of their solo laner, they can kill you easily in the mid-game. low elo player just don't know when to back up, they will still take the fight even when they are in a disadvantage. Any suggestion on that?
What happened when he went top to take tower is why I hate low elo. You think you're making the right decisions but when you're not with your team you all die. I think a lot of low elo mindsets comes from being in low elo and having experienced too many times what happens when you think you know what's best. If you're support and go to ward or gank mid, your adc dies 9/10 times. You're not allowed to back and sometimes not even allowed to ward the nearest bush, god forbid if you disappear a few seconds to ward drake. If you're adc and focused on farming and wave management then your support keeps pushing the lane anyway, while also desperately trying to trade even if they're tanking minions as Nami. Then they'll lose their mind because you kept on farming and go feed their anti-adc assassin mid as you're desperately trying to CS under tower and not get dived. All because you had your best interest in mind. As a jungler you're guaranteed to have teammates with self-destructive mindsets, as they all blame you for losing their lanes, and while they feed and fail to defend every tower in the first 15 minutes you lose all control of your own jungle... God forbid you took a scaling champion and tried to farm up, because meanwhile their jungler ganks every minute and your team think they have all the more reason to surrender and call "gg jungle diff". You played shyvana, you "should have taken dragons" and then they go for dragons without you spam pinging you while you ping them to back off and now the enemy killed them all and took dragon afterwards, you're left thinking "I guess the only chance I had this game was to atleast try to fight with them even if the chance of succeeding was low"... "I guess i should babysit every lane moving forward because if I try to be the least bit selfish my team will surrender @ 15". This is why even I know the answers to these kind of questions I will always doubt myself and still take goddamn stupid risks. I don't know what to do in low elo, it makes me go against my own instinct.
Yeah and a lot here contradicts with what was taught in earlier videos. Often what they teach is in line with "while splitting here for two turrets might be the ideal play, you should never trust your low ELO team, so go mid with them to secure at least one turret" and now suddenly it's all "Hector definitely made the correct play splitting, his team shouldn't have died there" like wtf which is it, suddenly it's correct play for challenger to trust his plat team??
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@@MahiKoodaa well when he win, every shit things he've done are all correct xD xD hahahah. It's so easy to comment to a replay game
@@MahiKoodaa With all due respect. I hate that logic, but I agree with it. I used to play ADC and tried to climb from elo hell. Always made the path where maximizes gold and exp for my team, so I was always farming sidelanes when everyone else were doing full ARAM on mid. Getting everyone on one lane might be good to take a tower quickly, but staying there is inefficient because they share the gold/exp. Anyway, too many games my teams advanced outnumbered, died in a 4v5 where they should clearly just be under tower and let our team slowly outgrow theirs. They could defend that tower with 4 guys. But any small opportunity for engage is enough so they buy a fight they can't win, out of the tower's range. Anyway, no matter how much farm I got, since there is a lot of kills and TFs, there was always someone on the other team that got super fed and we lost it. My team gave so much gold I couldn't impact the game solely on farm. Even though I prefered to go sidelane to get more gold for my team, I started going on every TF because, that way, we would make TFs with one more source of damage, get some wins and the result of TFs would impact the whole game.
Like, you can test if your team know how to defend and not engage on a 4v5 while you are sidelane. If they do it one time, you might have to shift your strategy and help them out on TFs. Or else you are going to lose from the reasons I tried to point out. So yeah, if your team is "low elo" and you don't trust them to do the right calls, you have to put this in consideration. It is better to secure one tower mid than go sidelane. If you trust your team a little bit more, you can make pressure on more than one lane and I guess it is better(if your team don't miserably dies without you)
I main ahri in d3 eune. In the games i play well i have very few deaths. Usually 1-3. The issue is how to do enough in teamfights to the enemy kog/lulu or vayne/lulu. I´ve played against both the past 2 days and i find it so difficult to do stuff in teamfights to them. What should i do? I cant burst through lulu shields and killing frontline is pointless in those scenarios.
NO. It was an macro mistake, he has 1300 gold, pushed wave And be is ashe who is super imobile. If he would Just Go thru river or set up VISION it would be much Better And safer. He didnt even know where enemy jg was And his jg was not nearby.
As juggernauts like morde and darius when you get a lead and become strong relative to the map you can start drawing huge ammounts of side lane pressure because you can potentially come out on top against 1v2 or 1v3 scenarios or take towers quickly, so if splitpushing is viable in those games you absolutely should be doing so while warding the enemy jungle around you as it also gives your team room to play the game
I know is laughable elo for you guys, but last season I was gold 2 and now I got placed back in silver 4. I was doing most things correctly like the video says, pushing my lead etc etc but ending up 12/4 defeat basically every single game, could not climb. Now I'm doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are saying, I'm sticking with my team preventing them from randomly dying, loosing obj and ending up with a global score of 12/40 and I'm going up in ranks. Maybe your advice are for other elos, but i can assure they don't apply where I am, at least for me
At 3min. He shouldn't have stayed after pushing bot tower. He should've based and regrouped with his team, pushed another lane grabbed an objective etc. Cause after the push they were all coming bot and a 5v2 regardless of how fed he was isn't a smart move. Now in the games I've played, the enemy team would've left 1 to push mid, rotated bot and killed me or whoever was splitting before the tower went down. Meanwhile my team wouldn't collapse on the one pushing mid, or by the time they do the enemy is already there to support and probably turn the fight around. You made the perfect statement when you said that he put too much faith in Alistair. In fact, that's the main issue with any of these "training" videos; it assumes that the 4 who are with you are trying to win and have the knowledge to do so.
@Copyrighted Tree Yes Well I'm now more aware of my macro while I'm playing and it is starting to seem promising. I now have a feel of direction in all my games which I never had before. I think even making basic macro decisions is something most players can't do.
i kinda dont understand the last team fight , how is going around from the side better angle than standing behind the alista, if ur team continues fighting then it might be good but if ur team backs off then ur just exposing urself
Surprisingly enough I actually got most of these answers correct. Hmmm I'm not surprised by this tbh. My macro is really the only thing that keeps me climbing my mechanics are usually pretty questionable XD. I've been working on mastering kat and diana so maybe it will make up for my lack of mechanical prowess.
Quite a good video. Unfortunately, none of these things apply when your are being constantly dived by 4 people and everyone apart from your support flames you and not even tries to use the numerical difference in pushing towers somewhere else xD
hector macros were imo mostly correct but he suffered a tremendous bias: he knew that he did not belong into that elo and that made him more confident than what he should have been in multiple situation. while is ok to play confindent he should also be aware of the skill level and decision making of his teammates, my 2 cents.
Take this from a Challenger jg main who didn't get coaching... Cs isn't as important in jg bc you snowball off objectives, and replay watching is useless because you don't know what you're doing wrong if you're below diamond
I dont think that using your challenger macro in plat or gold and expect it to always work, sometimes your team will throw so hard multiple times expecting you to be with them making it uncarryable.
Does this also apply to jungle kindred? (Mostly the farming top wave part, and the bot splitpush) And do vision control and objective timers play a bigger role as a jgl marksman? (Ex. 1:19 Lets say Drake wouldn't be up, but Herald would and all your camps were alive. (Including buffs). What is the correct play in this situation as fed jgl kindred? (Not accounting for any marks))
lol minute 2:20 i was like "dude just push bot you go mid you fucking die" because im a dirty greedy player never expected it to be a trick question haha
Dayum skill capped has been popping off lately, even though I'm an iron mid laner this content felt very applicable to all league players, I'm tempted to examine my replays but I'm worried the dumb stuff that happens there will make me tilt lol
right now im ahrd stuck d4, if i stopped throwing 90% of mymatches i could easily get d3. i get a lead most matches and immediately runs it down and loses the match.
I have question that i've been struggeling of my own. So what to i do in case of when enemies send one memeber to def bot, shoudl i stay or use advantage and roam prob mid to fight 4vs 5? That is when i decide to push solo for turrets.
well. look at the enemy team, look what can kill or annoy your adc, do whatever you can so it doesnt annoy or kill them anymore. Tanks should get cc'd before they reach your damage dealer. Assasins should be cc'd inside your team (so near your adc, but just out of reach or out of oppurtunities to damage your carry) Shields for main damage threads, and spammable heals for sustain. the same is with kill supporter like pyke. just instead of cc'ing just kill them.
So in the 7:20 situation, would it be ok for hector to stay if syndra and kayn were pressuring mid or bot? Is it worth to force 4 to 5 enemy members on one lane and die to let your team members take towers?
Play someone CC heavy so you can pin down the enemy and hope your team has the damage to kill everyone. Sejuani jungle is a beefy monster and I've tanked 3-4 enemies consistently every game with just a warmog, which gave my team time to get to me and clean up. That or just play Darius and be busted as heck lol
He said micro, but the correct answer should've been macro. - First mission is to farm, second mission is to stay safe over damage. He just contradicted both missions. - He had 1300g to spend, that's big this early on as an ADC. Why fight now instead of spending that gold first? - There was no objective to take on bot-side. Yes, mid had a turret up, but there were no guarantees they could take it from this fight. - Finally, their previous video from just three days ago (ua-cam.com/video/2npXKOKFwu8/v-deo.html) contradicts everything here by teaching "don't take risky fights because you can just wait for non-risky ones". Overall this video was much lower quality than their previous ones. It contradicts with a lot that was taught in earlier videos, it has clear flaws in it ("Hector is playing around Singed's Flash Fling combo" yeah sure when Singed has Ghost and Barrier), and a lot of it ignores the fact that Hector is challenger in a plat ELO. While the play pointed out is usually the correct play IN THEORY, it doesn't apply in plat ELO where you can't trust your team. If you find yourself constantly saying "but unfortunately his team dies here", then it's probably not the correct play all the time, since you clearly can't trust your team not to die, so you should probably play around them dying instead of counting on them to play properly.
@@MahiKoodaa You know in League you have so many decisions to make in a short amount of time. There isn't one and unique good decision but plenty of it. You can analyse as much as you want there still will be other possibilities that could be good because you can't anticipate your teammates' actions and all the random factor that can occur during a game. Plus Hector is smurfing; meaning he isn't playing at his best level so he has to adapt depending on his teammates level. And ofc if you're thinking like that everything is macro decision at some point in the game that leads you to fail an ambush a skirmish or a teamfight.
Unfortunately I don't think it's a good strategy to apply in very low ello because your team will not realise they have to play for you and will probably try a 4V5 teamfight, die and then flame at you because you're not there. So I find it very difficult to carry my games as an adc no matter what I do (also because how often I'm as fed as my fed the enemy team --'
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Emile Salmon-Legagneur I didn’t agree with their answer either. There is vision on dragon. They could take herald, dive with Alistar and Malphite and then siege since Ashe is fed. They could send Kayn to solo drag while they siege too.
I thought bork was bought to counter tanks because it does % hp dmg meaning it does much less against squish targets e.g twitch, Lucian, jayce. blitz generally doesn't buy a lot of hp.
would it not be better going crit build?
I managed to get each one right...! Including the trick question. x)
Thank you for helping me think like a pro! Wouldn't have been here if I hadn't found you guys and adopted your thinking style.
@Emile Salmon-Legagneur drake was up so no, even if they didn't get it I would get mad if my not goes top on drake timing. Worst rotate.
I really like this style of video and I had a fairly good plan about the whole game and decisionmaking.
However since you want to teach us I'd personally prefer it if you don't do trick-questions or likewise. At first I thought "Wait why would he ever go mid?!" but then decided to just go along. It's rather frustrating than teaching
Hector is carrying not just his team but the whole skill capped organisation
Posting from a UA-cam smurf account, Hector? You're working this weekend.
@@skillcapped do video like this but midlame
@Anthony Petro We are Hector. We are anonymous.
@Anthony Petro Hector is the Pentagon's patch for Google's OpenAI
Just remember the golden acronym for Keep yourself safe or KYS make sure to let your team know this for easy climbing.
Also by saying KYS to your team you can get 2 week vacation absolutely for free
@@ed1659 i got a permanent one yesterday :3
All this time I’ve been honoring the wrong players! I should’ve been honoring the poor souls I flamed wrongly when they were just trying to help my mental. :(
@@ed1659 how did u know
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We need a vid named " Do you know how to get carried and not make the life of your good teammates a living hell?"
Toxic Apple this is %100 needed video!! Some people pls if you are feeding as fuck, let your good teammated carry you, you do not need to carry all games by yourself.. learn how to get carry if you are having a bad game.
Play safe, play to keep your fed teammate fed, dont try solo stealing drag when the enemy has all 5 on it and you are 0/8/0. Dont push ahead in lanes without vision but try to push lanes and establish vision around objectives as you can.
Play top, push up without warding, say jg diff, your jg rq
Preach dude hahahaha
Is this a macro or a micro mistake?
Me: Yes.
More like: it was you or the team who fucked up?
@@batata_dog Always my team
Me during trick question: oh he should stay
Skill capped: recall or through jungle
Me: oh I guess I was wrong. Recall I guess
Skill capped: *l e t r o l l*
loool same
Ye man. Hahahah
Same 😂
let that be another lesson, trust your instincts
Was it really a mistake?
Me: *waiting for a mind-blowing twist*
Yeah it was a mistake. He was a complete moron.
Me: *feels a complete moron* 🤣🤣🤣
so funny that he says everytime: unfortunately his team dies here. This is so true in Plat elo it's crazy. It feels like you can never leave your team "alone" for 2 minutes or else they feed, especially as a jungler xD
Yep. I feel you. The drag for soul is about to spawn in 30 secs and for some reason ur mid and top decide to 2v5 giving them the soul or stopping ur team of getting it.
You havent seen silver elo then.
@@luke0812 In silver elo players are much worse in macro and micro so your team inting is not that punishing.
@@luke0812 yeah il silver elo people dont know how to close a game. In plat + people most of the time abuse their lead lol.
@@LeCaptRage I have gm games that take forever...
I really enjoy these question-format videos. Help facilitate thinking instead of just blind copying a strat! Appreciate it!
5:17 if you've played enought games with 0/5 teammates while you're fed, you know you HAVE to SPAM ping to not fight without you
I was playing in a game where 2 teammates got picked off mid and enemy started sieging second mid turret. Instead of going to help I kept split pushing toplane, and I actually got all 3 turrets and inhibitor and we didn't even lose the inhibitor, with my team actually randomly defending it after respawns. Really cool how it works, although it requires some ignoring of teammate pings and flames.
Im calling BS Hector wouldn't have pushed up to the tier two with everyone missing on the map no vision if he has been playing in his own elo
Right? no high elo match would allow a lone ADC to push to tier 2 tower
that's exactly what i was thinking. Especially in lower elo since they are thursty for them kills :)
well these vids are used to help low elos so it works i guess
@@falsealarm747 no it doesnt that adc pushing down a tier 2 tower alone is like the most free kill for the enemy team even the lowest elo assasin would know he should totally get that kill
HE USED E. To get vision of the energy, so he knew he could push
I legit got the trick question right
Same here man haha! "Wtf man this guy sucks obv you gotta push bot here wtf??"
Same xD
F for all the people (like me) who got tricked
i was thinking, better to recall since they could catch me in a 3v1... then i saw ashe's cooldowns, you can threw vision to secure your way... when i was thinking that, the trick question was revealed, i could have got it if i had more time DX
@@BlaxeFrost-X U dont get so much time ingame. Those decisions need to be quick to be viable otherwise u lose the opportunity. In ur case u may have channeled back change ur mind and started to move bot end up getting near turret and collapsed on
Anyone else just enjoying reading his teammates' flame war in the chat?
These were my answers to the questions you answered, and these are usually the thoughts that go through my head as I try to drag myself out of bronze lul:
1:20 question: mid to pressure, bot to defend/catch the wave, dragon to contest
2:08: recall to _reset_ since mid is likely gone, or continue shoving the wave while you can see their whole team then skedaddle once you can't see them anymore
3:25: i don't have a big understanding of macro/micro just yet, so i guessed macro lol
4:43: i feel like usually you only go to a lane after rift herald if you can immediately take the tower, but the safer option is typically just recall
7:35: there was no one on the map, and with a twitch that just screams the whole team is comin for you lol he overstayed
This was kinda fun comparing my thoughts vs your guide, and I can be satisfied knowing I at least have a good mindset for climbing, now I just need to practice more.
Singed can flash fling Hector..
Yeah sure, with ghost/barrier summs xD
Still Singed has a lot of MS. Doesn't even need Flash, just Ghost and passing through his teammates is enough for setting up a Fling.
@@HappyGick yea Gl with that against alistar and ashe slow hahahahaah :D
Heres what I learned, in low elo play for yourself, never for the team.
This really doesnt apply if you are low elo yourself
@@emilianowiiland then again you need to be better than your current elo to actually climb
Actually you play against the map positioning and do alot more attrition than at higher levels. E.g. Crossplay.
@@cyberneticbutterfly8506 I wish I knew what that sentence meant.
3:45 I don't agree. Instead of 2v3ing (5 MIA) for no objective, he should walk back through lane, take Gromp (pulling it downwards) and recall for BF or Zeal. With bot already pushed, he should then head to Rift. Micro could be better but the whole scenario makes no sense when they have a fairly easy win through more conservative play.
Anyway, I agree with the rest of the video and this is a good format.
totally agree with you
Totally agreed with this, I'm sure someone like xSFN Saber would have watched that and said that he is making a mistake by putting himself in a position where it is POSSIBLE to lose, which shouldn't be the case especially when you are carrying so singularly. That wasn't a 90% play, it was a maybe 75% play as evident by his Alistar fucking up and him misjudging it even being challenger or whatever.
You're correct, and they straight out contradict with everything they taught in their previous video: ua-cam.com/video/2npXKOKFwu8/v-deo.html "don't take fights that can go wrong from one micro mistake"
@@MahiKoodaa btw they had to do herald right then... Look at the time
It's the first time I answered all questions correct on these test videos. Feels great.
Another major thing in Solo Q is when 1 person is fed and in base the 4 others play fights as if their team is ahead, even though locally thos particular 4 champions are behind the enemy 4 champions they are fighting.
Hector: *exists
SkillCapped Team: You're going to Elohell
Hector: Being Hector is suffering!
7:35 lmao the Alistar really said “You guys having a picknic?” xDDDD
I got dang near all of these wrong except the one about taking too after herald.
I seriously suck at carrying
The river question after the herald: i would have stayed cause i see three enemies in a bunch and two more in mid, i understand that the three are probably gonna cut the team apart, leaving half and half and killing both .
yeah i agree...
he should team-up, coz he'z already fed and teamfight with a fed character will be easy... plus with a tempo of Herald push...
it'z better to be protected by 3 more teammates rather to be protected by only one Alistar...
I would've done the same
the correct answer was clearly go mid, use herald and get TWO towers not just one, they could even get a hit on the inib tower (third one is only possible because it's low elo) because it opens the map way more and since they have syndra, ashe arrow and malphite ult it's free facecheck kills when they threaten baron ...
@@ryohei9027 Yeah Twitch just died and Singed is on the other side of the pit from his team. It was fairly obvious that his team would go for the fight. If hector had helped, he could have gotten a takedown or two nd then have extra tim e to get the top tower.
I think a bad call everyone follows is better than a good call nobody follows
I saw this video, picked Ashe and carried a game. It was not ranked nor above silver/gold elo, but I felt my macro was very good. Thanks guys!
Yesterday, I decided to put pressure in my lane instead of going to a lost team fight by a tower that was about to fall anyway. Top went afk 10 seconds later.
u gotta remember that optimal play isnt always optimal since sometimes you have to play a mental safety manager and make plays that satisfy your team even if they are less profitable on paper
Riko Martin would you rather go teamfight every minute just to satisfy the team or farm and get obj. towers?
@@jamesm4957 depends on ur team mental obviously, if u have people bout to rq it's better to join aram mode, especially if u are ahead and can carry teamfights, u might get less objectives albeit u obviously lose less if ur team is bout to int
@@fkutw4tt3rtub3 like, you have to min max value.
If your play turns into a situation that you can basically 4v5 from, than you do it anyway as it doesnt matter if top went afk 10 seconds later.
3:20 it was both. After getting bot tower and with dragon off the map the next big objective is top tower / herald. When your team is not putting preasure anywhere on the map since they just respawned and the enemy just recalled there is actually no reason to stay.
Even if they kill maybe 2 and die again the rest the bounty might land on a carry. Also respawn timers are still so low that they would never actually preasure the bot inhib tower. Another reason to not stay there.
4:50 how about using your Hawk Shot to get the information to make an educated decision? There is just no excuse to not use Hawk Shot there. So yes you could see that there is a threat of a teamfight when you see the rest of the enemy team just running at your mates if he would have used his ability.
5:33 You talk about low elo.But in a competitive game or a challenger game the correct thing to do was going mid and use herald right?
I think the four of his teammates would not lose in the fight
I think even in competitive game or a challenger the correct play is still do that because the position make his team can't lose (yea these plat guys just sucks) and even if they all go top to kill him they're just trade their tower (potentially 2 because his team got herald) for just a shutdown which is not a good trade at all
well he said its, thats not how you snowball in low elo, but the elo doesnt really matter. Thats how to snowball. even more important in high elo, as every little snowball opportunity missed could be a comeback opportunity for the enemy team to use.
1:18 lets be honest here going bottom isn't the right call i think. What you would in this sittuation is pinging the the syndra to go bottom and clear out the wave while he and bliz push out mid with kayn waiting near by and clearing vision at either drake or herald (pref. drake since the soul is still more valuable) if he would have done that there would have been a chance for him to either contest drake or at least get some dmg on mid turret and chicken camp him going bottom is loosing tempo on the map since he is fed and wants to use this now to get more pressure on objectives and force the enemies to react (side note the vision to bot is really good so it is more unlikely for syndra to get picked again)
Yeah, I would've swapped with the top laner since he was clearly struggling. You also get herald pressure.
overextending at 3:45 is a macro mistake since theres 5 mia
singed has barrier and ghost not flash
and so much more actually disturbing
Tip for low elo up to d4 0lp. If you see the situation when 2 teams are close and you want to take top tower for free gold think again. Your team will engage. Doesnt matter if its 4v5 or if you're the only player with items, they will engage. The avg IQ in these elos is so low they wouldnt even get accepted at mcdonalds
Make more of these videos they are amazing! And the most useful in my opinion
In fairness if you pause this video at 4:15 you can see enemy team are ahead, with multiple having bounties on them etc, and malph really behind Singed etc.
About crossmapping and baron.
I guess sometimes it is good to trade inhibitor and baron.
Like, your teammates died and you can't contest baron, off course you should push your waves just to reduce the damage from the baron buff. Stretch the time.
I played some games where I was on the baron side of this decision(I'm low elo), my team almost aced, went to baron, took a lot of time to kill it.
While everyone is in baron, the opponent is taking inhibitor. He gets the open base and inhibitor and sometimes we can't compensate that with the baron buff.
I guess there should always be one champion defending and the rest finishes baron.
Sometimes it is difficult if you have 2 or 3 champs and 2 sources of damage.
skill capped: just keep farming
me, a support main: anxious sweating
@5:40 I don't agree that going top is the right one. (My own opinion, excuse everyone.) An no dash adc (Kog, twitch, ashe) is required ALWAYS to be with the team. This is for 2 things, #1, in case a fight breaks, he's there as the damage dealer and #2, he will get protection in case of ganks.
Also since mid tower is up, I believe the proper play should be take herald, get mid tower. That way, with both Tier 1 mid + tier 1 bot gone, they have a priority with Dragon. If you have bot tower down and top tower down, the objectives are still not secured. Mid tower + side tower gives you more edge on objective priorities since the opponent needs to defend farther (tier 2 towers) before going with objectives. This also gets you the advantage to push vision.
Side note, if he's a split pusher (trynda, jax or my main Yorick) the correct would be going top. Pushing through sidelanes is your job and since dragon is also up, it gives your opponent a hard choice, go top and defend tier 1 or go def mid with herald then dragon?
@@themanidentifiedasdinosaur8138
Big thing with skill-capped is that they want you to split push as ADC to carry.
Everyone in solo q constantly does the hindsight thing. Every time a decision is made that is correct at the time but the team dies faster than you can anticipate it's your fault. Every time the jungler seems to be close but decides to suddenly turn direction after you commit to a fight. Every time your team is 4v3 and you splitpush and team loses its your fault for not helping the teamfight.
2:40 yeah but when ever just do that and finish taking tower there entire team colapses on me and either oneshots me or chases me to oblivian
He is aware of where the enemy team is. He's got plenty of vision and his E as well. Alistar is pathing bot and because he's fed, every enemy is reluctant to make the first move and walk bot instantly. Nobody can 1v1 him. Someone on the enemy team has to ping that they're going for ashe. That way they might follow, but i doubt it since they just had a fight mid and probably just wanna back. You should be aware of all these things when trying to make such a play.
In the trick question i thought recall and go mid but if I was actually playing I wouldve pushed as i got no map awareness that enemy is pushing, then get tower and get collapsed on.
This is my favorite series!
The macro/micro question feels like the wrong thing to ask. He was already ahead and had money in pocket. He can try to stay and win the 60:40 2v3 or respect the risk losing current lead 40% of the time isnt worth getting slightly more ahead 60% of the time.
At min 3:20 play, it's a macro mistake. You don't ever path that way. If you want to not waste time and path that way anyway just because you're fed, you shouldn't be thinking "oh, if i flash this i win". There's no reason to waste flash on a play that they can't convert into anything. Yes they could go for mid turr but they can do it even if the enemy is alive, since they're ahead. He also didn't need to insta flash. If the enemy flash and misses u just waste flash. Flash after you get hit there, and before jayce Q. He coulda turned it around that way, p sure. So i guess it's a macro mistake that led to a micro one. But they didn't touch on that
exactly what i thought!
Can you do more vids like this? I feel this was a really good learning experience
More of these please.
I always had a carry mind of a team player. But here its super SoloQ-Minded
Playing lol turned to be a probision and expert. This takes so mudh time to learn and master
the first question i saw malph going top and kayn clearing top side jung and ashe had already got bot tower so i would have pinged rift, rushed it with malphite, kayn and myself (Ashe) then hard shoved top with malph, kayn and rift. after we got the top tower i assume at least 2 people would roam up to deff (hopefully one of which being the jungler) so i would ping for malph and kayn to roam mid shove the wave into tower and then go get drake after which reset as we have essentially just gotten 4 objectives in a very short amount of time meaning a large amount of gold. after the reset drake isnt up, neither is rift, top and bots 1st tier towers are gone and ashe, malph and kayn have a good item lead due to that large gold amount they just got so i would try and all 5 mid and take that first tier tower mid as they will find it hard to win a fight contesting the tower when we have such a large lead. after that i would try and snowball my gold and objective lead by shoving lanes in when objectives are coming up so they have to deff and then rushing drakes and rifts/barons as the shoved in lanes will force at least 1 person to deff and if we have been farming right we still have a gold lead so if they took a 4v5 to contest they would lose 90% of the time. this is what i personally would do however i have had games where even with all this we lose so pls let me know what about this plan of action is wrong?
1:50 poor cow just wants to last hit that cannon and share the gold XD
so I kind of got all questions right. the ones I got wrong were just me mis interpreting the vague questions. Currently returning from a half year break, I'm going through placements in iron and I cannot carry no matter how fed I get. they don't place any wards and just aram. never go to a side lane. always chase into no vision... like what do you do when someone keeps mirroring you on the map while team runs it down
"Alistar had been playing pretty well so far, and he put a bit too much faith in him."
I call it:
**OvERaTED**
1:30, you dont want to go bot to catch that wave, if you have a lead and bot tower gone then you want to go top with your malphite and alistar to force down top turret for rift herald prio. With malphite and ali as hard engage for the fed ashe, taking out singed/forcing him off is a cake walk. Syndra has full resources and is a zoning/burst mage that can zone a few of them off of the warded dragon if they try to trade objectives. Sharing farm is not a concern, you want to push your lead, not sit on it and slowly increase your personal economy by farming bot lane and accomplishing nothing.
But then you risk Lucian pushing bot turret and you end up trading turrets 1 for 1 which is not ideal either. The correct play is to inform Syndra to go bot (she can hold it alone), and go mid/top yourself. So you're correct, but you were missing that SOMEONE needs to catch the bot wave, that someone should've been Syndra :)
Markus Meskanen nah if you trade top for bot it’s worth because after you group kid with herald and then start making aggressive wards in their jungle, he can take botnlol
Why did Hector build RFC over Infinity Edge in this game?
Tbh i would have gone mid not for the snowball but for the map taking 2 towers in mid its huge and you can win if they throw cause the distance in mid its rly low
im a Adc main in gold 1 and Im safe to say Im hardcore stuck... As a adc main it very hard to carry teammates when they have no idea how to pick teamfights. While watching this I've seen some stuff I should do, let see if I can get out of this elo
I'd say that at 3:40 it was a micro-mistake, but more pathing related. There's no reason for him to path through the jungle near blitzcrank there, he should've just backed off
Go to herald and go top to take 2 turrets and force the outnumbered enemy team into a fight topside would have been another good option
However, if you get advantage with adc and split in 2:20, most of the time your low elo mid and sup will not give up the mid tower and die together with the turret. Then, the enemy saw you split pushing top, so they continue to push mid and you will lose both turrets. After all, due to the inherent level advantage of their solo laner, they can kill you easily in the mid-game. low elo player just don't know when to back up, they will still take the fight even when they are in a disadvantage. Any suggestion on that?
Every game in solo q people want to share lane XP as if they have no idea it's bad. And then complain when you splitpush.
What happened when he went top to take tower is why I hate low elo. You think you're making the right decisions but when you're not with your team you all die. I think a lot of low elo mindsets comes from being in low elo and having experienced too many times what happens when you think you know what's best.
If you're support and go to ward or gank mid, your adc dies 9/10 times. You're not allowed to back and sometimes not even allowed to ward the nearest bush, god forbid if you disappear a few seconds to ward drake.
If you're adc and focused on farming and wave management then your support keeps pushing the lane anyway, while also desperately trying to trade even if they're tanking minions as Nami. Then they'll lose their mind because you kept on farming and go feed their anti-adc assassin mid as you're desperately trying to CS under tower and not get dived. All because you had your best interest in mind.
As a jungler you're guaranteed to have teammates with self-destructive mindsets, as they all blame you for losing their lanes, and while they feed and fail to defend every tower in the first 15 minutes you lose all control of your own jungle... God forbid you took a scaling champion and tried to farm up, because meanwhile their jungler ganks every minute and your team think they have all the more reason to surrender and call "gg jungle diff". You played shyvana, you "should have taken dragons" and then they go for dragons without you spam pinging you while you ping them to back off and now the enemy killed them all and took dragon afterwards, you're left thinking "I guess the only chance I had this game was to atleast try to fight with them even if the chance of succeeding was low"... "I guess i should babysit every lane moving forward because if I try to be the least bit selfish my team will surrender @ 15".
This is why even I know the answers to these kind of questions I will always doubt myself and still take goddamn stupid risks. I don't know what to do in low elo, it makes me go against my own instinct.
Way too many times I rewatch my games and change by play through because of “results based analysis”. Thanks for this skillcapped.
funny that i found dmistakes in his logic sometimes
Yeah and a lot here contradicts with what was taught in earlier videos. Often what they teach is in line with "while splitting here for two turrets might be the ideal play, you should never trust your low ELO team, so go mid with them to secure at least one turret" and now suddenly it's all "Hector definitely made the correct play splitting, his team shouldn't have died there" like wtf which is it, suddenly it's correct play for challenger to trust his plat team??
@@MahiKoodaa well when he win, every shit things he've done are all correct xD xD hahahah. It's so easy to comment to a replay game
@@MahiKoodaa His team had the number advantage so shouldn't have had problems
@@MahiKoodaa With all due respect. I hate that logic, but I agree with it.
I used to play ADC and tried to climb from elo hell.
Always made the path where maximizes gold and exp for my team, so I was always farming sidelanes when everyone else were doing full ARAM on mid.
Getting everyone on one lane might be good to take a tower quickly, but staying there is inefficient because they share the gold/exp.
Anyway, too many games my teams advanced outnumbered, died in a 4v5 where they should clearly just be under tower and let our team slowly outgrow theirs. They could defend that tower with 4 guys. But any small opportunity for engage is enough so they buy a fight they can't win, out of the tower's range.
Anyway, no matter how much farm I got, since there is a lot of kills and TFs, there was always someone on the other team that got super fed and we lost it.
My team gave so much gold I couldn't impact the game solely on farm.
Even though I prefered to go sidelane to get more gold for my team, I started going on every TF because, that way, we would make TFs with one more source of damage, get some wins and the result of TFs would impact the whole game.
Like, you can test if your team know how to defend and not engage on a 4v5 while you are sidelane. If they do it one time, you might have to shift your strategy and help them out on TFs. Or else you are going to lose from the reasons I tried to point out.
So yeah, if your team is "low elo" and you don't trust them to do the right calls, you have to put this in consideration. It is better to secure one tower mid than go sidelane. If you trust your team a little bit more, you can make pressure on more than one lane and I guess it is better(if your team don't miserably dies without you)
I main ahri in d3 eune. In the games i play well i have very few deaths. Usually 1-3. The issue is how to do enough in teamfights to the enemy kog/lulu or vayne/lulu. I´ve played against both the past 2 days and i find it so difficult to do stuff in teamfights to them. What should i do? I cant burst through lulu shields and killing frontline is pointless in those scenarios.
NO. It was an macro mistake, he has 1300 gold, pushed wave And be is ashe who is super imobile. If he would Just Go thru river or set up VISION it would be much Better And safer. He didnt even know where enemy jg was And his jg was not nearby.
How can I hard carry with juggernauts, especially Morde? Is it any different in terms of teamfights?
@Min-Sung Ko just gained 15 lp from this tysm!!!!!!!!!!!111111
Just point click ult the enemy support and pray your team doesn't die in the 4 v 4.
Try to poke with ur E and Q and as one guy already mentioned try to stay behind your carries
As juggernauts like morde and darius when you get a lead and become strong relative to the map you can start drawing huge ammounts of side lane pressure because you can potentially come out on top against 1v2 or 1v3 scenarios or take towers quickly, so if splitpushing is viable in those games you absolutely should be doing so while warding the enemy jungle around you as it also gives your team room to play the game
Build ninja tabis seekers and proceed to one shot the enemy adc
I know is laughable elo for you guys, but last season I was gold 2 and now I got placed back in silver 4. I was doing most things correctly like the video says, pushing my lead etc etc but ending up 12/4 defeat basically every single game, could not climb. Now I'm doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are saying, I'm sticking with my team preventing them from randomly dying, loosing obj and ending up with a global score of 12/40 and I'm going up in ranks. Maybe your advice are for other elos, but i can assure they don't apply where I am, at least for me
last season the ranks were inflated and so this season they pretty much brought everyone back a bit of elo.
At 3min. He shouldn't have stayed after pushing bot tower. He should've based and regrouped with his team, pushed another lane grabbed an objective etc. Cause after the push they were all coming bot and a 5v2 regardless of how fed he was isn't a smart move. Now in the games I've played, the enemy team would've left 1 to push mid, rotated bot and killed me or whoever was splitting before the tower went down. Meanwhile my team wouldn't collapse on the one pushing mid, or by the time they do the enemy is already there to support and probably turn the fight around. You made the perfect statement when you said that he put too much faith in Alistair. In fact, that's the main issue with any of these "training" videos; it assumes that the 4 who are with you are trying to win and have the knowledge to do so.
I genuinely got all of these right. Does this mean I can analyze my own VODs and just improve off of that?
@Copyrighted Tree Yes Well I'm now more aware of my macro while I'm playing and it is starting to seem promising. I now have a feel of direction in all my games which I never had before. I think even making basic macro decisions is something most players can't do.
Wasn't the right call Kayn to use the rift herald top and Ashe and Alistar to siege mid?
This is a great template for an educational video, hope to see more in the future. Keep it up!
i kinda dont understand the last team fight , how is going around from the side better angle than standing behind the alista, if ur team continues fighting then it might be good but if ur team backs off then ur just exposing urself
Surprisingly enough I actually got most of these answers correct. Hmmm I'm not surprised by this tbh. My macro is really the only thing that keeps me climbing my mechanics are usually pretty questionable XD. I've been working on mastering kat and diana so maybe it will make up for my lack of mechanical prowess.
Quite a good video.
Unfortunately, none of these things apply when your are being constantly dived by 4 people and everyone apart from your support flames you and not even tries to use the numerical difference in pushing towers somewhere else xD
You guys help me so much man 😃 now I need to learn how to turn on my brain in game
hector macros were imo mostly correct but he suffered a tremendous bias: he knew that he did not belong into that elo and that made him more confident than what he should have been in multiple situation. while is ok to play confindent he should also be aware of the skill level and decision making of his teammates, my 2 cents.
Take this from a Challenger jg main who didn't get coaching... Cs isn't as important in jg bc you snowball off objectives, and replay watching is useless because you don't know what you're doing wrong if you're below diamond
I dont think that using your challenger macro in plat or gold and expect it to always work, sometimes your team will throw so hard multiple times expecting you to be with them making it uncarryable.
If i had to bet I'd place my money on hector being the best challenger of this channel
Does this also apply to jungle kindred? (Mostly the farming top wave part, and the bot splitpush) And do vision control and objective timers play a bigger role as a jgl marksman? (Ex. 1:19 Lets say Drake wouldn't be up, but Herald would and all your camps were alive. (Including buffs). What is the correct play in this situation as fed jgl kindred? (Not accounting for any marks))
lol minute 2:20 i was like "dude just push bot you go mid you fucking die" because im a dirty greedy player
never expected it to be a trick question haha
Dayum skill capped has been popping off lately, even though I'm an iron mid laner this content felt very applicable to all league players, I'm tempted to examine my replays but I'm worried the dumb stuff that happens there will make me tilt lol
right now im ahrd stuck d4, if i stopped throwing 90% of mymatches i could easily get d3. i get a lead most matches and immediately runs it down and loses the match.
who asked
@@zyanaera7531 i think it was the orange little thingy with a boomerang that asked, but it could be mundo
I like these videos cause they serve as another tool to help me explain these things to the people I play with.
I dont play carries but at that trick question I was like why do u want him to go mid anyway either from bot or base.
You can carry even if you don't play carries...
I have question that i've been struggeling of my own. So what to i do in case of when enemies send one memeber to def bot, shoudl i stay or use advantage and roam prob mid to fight 4vs 5? That is when i decide to push solo for turrets.
Skill Capped: Do you know how to carry?
me: ofc i do
also me: *Cant answer even one question*
Could you guys make a video like "How to protect the carry being the support"? I mainly play this roll and sometimes it feels like no matter what I do
well.
look at the enemy team, look what can kill or annoy your adc, do whatever you can so it doesnt annoy or kill them anymore.
Tanks should get cc'd before they reach your damage dealer.
Assasins should be cc'd inside your team (so near your adc, but just out of reach or out of oppurtunities to damage your carry)
Shields for main damage threads, and spammable heals for sustain.
the same is with kill supporter like pyke.
just instead of cc'ing just kill them.
Can you do this but for jungle? It would help a lot.
I always consistently mess up the micro when I am the win condition. :f
Too much pressure....
whats the reasoning behind him building firecannon after runaans ?
So in the 7:20 situation, would it be ok for hector to stay if syndra and kayn were pressuring mid or bot? Is it worth to force 4 to 5 enemy members on one lane and die to let your team members take towers?
can you make a video on how to find "missions" in loading screen for your lane?
okay but how do you do this when you’re the solocarry BUT you also have to be the frontline for your team?
Play someone CC heavy so you can pin down the enemy and hope your team has the damage to kill everyone.
Sejuani jungle is a beefy monster and I've tanked 3-4 enemies consistently every game with just a warmog, which gave my team time to get to me and clean up.
That or just play Darius and be busted as heck lol
Can you please tell me what should i do when the ennemy freeze in his tower ? and what to do when my team perma die and ty
Sold botrk for TF at the end. I assume for the added utility since he had ls with deathdance?
did anyone notice kayn saying 'u guys having problems??' at 7:30
Early af! I hope this video helps to get me out of ChaLLEngeR D;
3:21 as a non-native speaker it's kinda hard to hear the difference between macro and micro but I reckon he said that was a micro mistake. Am I right?
He said micro, but the correct answer should've been macro.
- First mission is to farm, second mission is to stay safe over damage. He just contradicted both missions.
- He had 1300g to spend, that's big this early on as an ADC. Why fight now instead of spending that gold first?
- There was no objective to take on bot-side. Yes, mid had a turret up, but there were no guarantees they could take it from this fight.
- Finally, their previous video from just three days ago (ua-cam.com/video/2npXKOKFwu8/v-deo.html) contradicts everything here by teaching "don't take risky fights because you can just wait for non-risky ones".
Overall this video was much lower quality than their previous ones. It contradicts with a lot that was taught in earlier videos, it has clear flaws in it ("Hector is playing around Singed's Flash Fling combo" yeah sure when Singed has Ghost and Barrier), and a lot of it ignores the fact that Hector is challenger in a plat ELO. While the play pointed out is usually the correct play IN THEORY, it doesn't apply in plat ELO where you can't trust your team. If you find yourself constantly saying "but unfortunately his team dies here", then it's probably not the correct play all the time, since you clearly can't trust your team not to die, so you should probably play around them dying instead of counting on them to play properly.
@@MahiKoodaa You know in League you have so many decisions to make in a short amount of time. There isn't one and unique good decision but plenty of it. You can analyse as much as you want there still will be other possibilities that could be good because you can't anticipate your teammates' actions and all the random factor that can occur during a game. Plus Hector is smurfing; meaning he isn't playing at his best level so he has to adapt depending on his teammates level. And ofc if you're thinking like that everything is macro decision at some point in the game that leads you to fail an ambush a skirmish or a teamfight.
I have only one question are you Ashe in this play through?
Great... That one trick question about defending mid has me all embarrassed... Lol
At 2:20 he doesnt have enough information to push bot alone. He can be crushed its not the right way to give shutdown so easily.
1:32 just say to the syndra that she is stupid and she needs to go bot cause you got the turret (it's the bot turret rule)
What rank are you?
@@teemo8247 almost dia (I don't like saying high plat)
Unfortunately I don't think it's a good strategy to apply in very low ello because your team will not realise they have to play for you and will probably try a 4V5 teamfight, die and then flame at you because you're not there. So I find it very difficult to carry my games as an adc no matter what I do (also because how often I'm as fed as my fed the enemy team --'