Blue Note Tone Poet Vinylz! Dexter Gordon, Andrew Hill, Kenny Burrell, Baby Face Willette
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- #TonePoet #BlueNoteRecords #vinylcommunity The latest batch of Blue Note's Tone Poet series--excellent sound, sweet album art, and $35 a disc. Fuggettabutit!
The Andrew Hill records are indeed essential.
What a timely review. I've been wondering about those Tone Poet series LPs. Just ordered one of those SRX LPs to compare it to a BN 75th copy (Horace Silver) that I already own. However, if those Tone Poet LPs sound great and have the high quality gatefold sleeves, then that may be the way to go. Just discovered a tiny record store in town that has a several of the Tone Poet LPs and they were asking a reasonable price for them. Think I may be paying them another visit. Thanks for another great video Ken, the Jazz VC really appreciates all your information and humor. "And God knows, with the state of things in this country, we can use all the laughs and good music we can get." Cheers!
I picked up the new Black Fire pressing. It's outstanding!
Your tip on the Tone Poet series was spot on. Gorgeous packaging and sonically rich and well crafted. Don Was is really looking out for the JVC with this round of reissues. I recently ordered an SRX copy Horace Silver's "Song for My Father", so I'll hold my judgement until I get a chance to listen to it, but "dang...." the copy of "Etcetera" I picked up yesterday was impressive. Music Matters puts out some fantastic reissues, but if I can get the same audiophile quality at half the price....."well." Plus I think it's such a great service to the newcomers to the JVC who can't afford to drop $75 a pop for an LP. I picked up 3 of the Tone Poet offerings two days ago for less than $28 (each, obviously). How can you beat that? Thanks for another great video Ken. Cheers!
Update: I received my Music Matters SRX copy of "Song for My Father" today and had a chance to give it a listen. I'm not hearing any ultra-quite vinyl (maybe more noticeable on better decks?), but "DAAAAAMN son" that record sounds amazing. I compared it to my BN 75th version of this album and it's no comparison. I wish there was a Tone Poet or BN 80th version of "Song for My Father" to compare, but it doesn't appear there are any pressed. That being said, I would have to agree that the Tone Poet series is definitely comparable to the MM SRX LPs. Ironically my copy of "Etcetera" (Tone Poet) is actually quiter than the MM SRX copy of "Song for My Father". Cheers!
Thanks for the review I bought Intrducing Kenny Burrell can hardly wait to play it but waiting to buy a new turntable to listen to it. Thanks again! John
I have all of the Tone Poets, except the Cassandra Wilson, they are great. I paid 25.99 at my local store so I snapped them up, Cassandra Wilson is 41.99. The 80th Anniversary are also not bad and there is a lot of good stuff coming for the 80th Anniversary into 2020, like the 75th Anniversary. The 75th Anniversary was a mixed bag, but cheap. Andrew Hill is great, I have that original Andrew Hill smiling on his al um Andrew. Great reviews here Ken, I also had a copy of Black fire and just decided to get this and I’m glad I did. I have no SRX pressings. I hope Tone Poet gets that Thad Jones one that Music Matters has. That Kenny Burrell is one I had been looking for, for so long and couldn’t fine it, it sounds outstanding.
FYI ... that Cassandra Wilson is killer! I don't remember paying that much though, maybe (got mine on a pre-order and it was awhile ago).
Dave Charvella Hey man thanks, I had a feeling that the Cassandra Wilson might be killer. I’m just trying to get a better deal, but it’s too two albums at twenty one dollars a piece, so if you look at it this way I guess.
Lots of useful info. Thanks!
Fantastic video Ken, thank you very much.
Marko
Yeah, REALLY hard to find something to diss on the Tone Poet reissues. Solid analog pressings that represent the music in a very respectable way. Nice job again Ken!
Really got to hand it to Alfred for supporting Hill.You get Lee Morgan,Wayne Shorter,etc based on sales.Sometimes he loved what sold to like Jimmy Smith (supposedly he wanted to close the shop and go on road as Jimmy road manager.He must have been heart broken when Verve poached him).But the "New Thing" typse of player like Hill or Sam Rivers that takes commitment beyond sales.
Great informative review Ken.I have the Baby Face Willete and Kenny Burrell issues and love the sound on them especially Kenny Burrell and I agree the congas add a lot to the record
0:58 "no channels reviewing jazz" - lot of us on the #vinylcommunity reviewing and discussing jazz records. I've featured the tone poets a few times, just did a review of the new Blue Note doc, did a series on Ornette yesterday... but Ken you are certainly the best channel for good jazz reviews, no question, your knowledge of jazz and vinyl pressings etc is beyond - the rest of us are just amateurs having a good time. (And FYI today is Wayne's 86th birthday!)
a simple search on "vinyl community" brings up next to nothing with "jazz" in the title
Like what you’re doing!
Great review Ken! So far I have the Blue Note Tone Poet's of Wayne Shorter - Etc., Chick Corea - Now He Sings, Now He Sobs, Lee Morgan - Cornbread, and Dexter Gordon - Clubhouse but hope to pick up Andrew Hill - Black Fire, Introducing Kenny Burrell, and the upcoming Stanley Turrentine among others.
Great review !! Love The Tone Poet Series...I compared them to some MOFI reisues and I think they sound just as good on my system. So far I have bought 8 of the Tone Poet Series...and will probably try to get them all...allthough they are quite expensive here in Denmark..about 50 $ a piece I think they are wort it..Thanks for the video..keep them coming..!! :-)
Thank you
I Got Them for 25dollar each in a local store located in Denmark ;)
@@JEJFL what is the name of that shop..? Thanks
@@jespergth9437 moby disc
For lidt tid siden købte jeg Andrew Hill Black fire for 170kr
Superb video review, Ken! I have these TPs and I couldn’t agree more.
Would you consider doing a review of turntables? Or even a more informal talk about your favorite turntables?
Many thanks,
Ron C.
anonymous Hi Ron glad you like the town poets. I review gear for stereo file but don’t know if my channel would be enough to get a review of different turn tables. But sure, perhaps I’ll make a video of some of my favorite turntables. My favorite one at the moment is the one I’m using! Thank you
I really appreciate your fervor 👌🏼
I’m a novice collector taking notes.
Good stuff Ken. Thank you ☕️🥁
I'm glad to know that it's not my turntable that's causing the distortion on some of the newly pressed reissues I've been purchasing. I had one of the SRX mono albums and one of the tracks sounded horrible. I thought it was a bad pressing and requested and got another one, some situation. So I can guess that the original source tape contained the distorted sound.
SRX is Music Matters. Tone Poet is Blue Note, pressed at RTI. Do you know where the SRX are pressed?
Lots of distortion on the early blue notes
Black and bitter, like my coffee, like my women...? (You like black women) I forgot about you Americans and coffee. Here in England I only drink Earl Grey tea at Buckingham Palace when I go to the garden party and see the Queen.
Dexter Gordon, I have some of his music under some Art Blakey albums. No room in the racks. I don't play his music much and I really should.
For my ears, it was like you play Miles Davis albums and sooner or later you will hear John Coltrane and want to hear his albums. I thought those horn players are good so I check out other horn players be they trumpet, sax or whatever players. That's how I came to Dexter, Sonny and the rest.
Good shout on the Andrew Hill album. Nice to hear his name.
Kenny Burrell, I Just Find Jazz guitar weird, Rock is fine, Blues is fine, Country I am English so what do I know about country music. I have some Wes Montgomery I can tell he is good but it's not my cup of English tea. I get what you mean about conga drums even Nat "King" Cole had a conga player in his band at one point in time. As others have said here great reviews.
These Tone Poet vinyl records are cookin very good overall quality. I have Kenny Burrell Introducing, Dexter Gordon Clubhouse, Lee Morgan Corn Bread, Stanley Turrentine Hustlin, and Hank Mobley Poppin. I just ordered Grant Green Born to be Blue and will be ordering Lee Morgan The Cooker, Donald Byrd Chant and Tina Brooks can't remember the title of that one. I highly recommend buying these pressing for those that are into jazz. Amazon has them at a lower price than some brick and mortar stores.
love this new format. thanks for taking the time ken. also liked your xrs review too. thank you 😊
Thanks Ken, excellent reviews
Thanks for your review. I’ve already picked up the Kenny Burrell. I have an original of the Baby Face record. I know you’re a drummer, the Side 2 of Burrell solo between the 2 drummers is fabulous. Can you train the mice to flip your records between sides...ha.
Thanks Ken! Best in depth review of tone poets yet! I've seen others from other sites and they are jumping all over the place..yours is complete. Now i know which ones to get. I have LT reissues which i agree with you are pretty good but i have to get the andrew hill..its such a beautiful album. Had the original new york press years ago. Good one. Thank you!!
Thanks Alan. There's a lot to talk about with the TPs. I scratched the surface. and I still like the LTs!
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 i really like the LT's.They are sort of overlooked and the sound is very good!
I have 3 of the 4 Tone Poet series Blue Note records you're referring to - I'd have to count them, but I fell in love with the series as soon as I heard the first record I bought and just kept building my collection from there - personally, I highly recommend any of them, and yes, some are better "balanced stereo wise" than others but I've yet to buy a less than exquisite pressing and or a less than exquisite sounding Tone Poet record - even audiophiles who are not that interested in jazz but like vinyl should buy a couple if for no other reason than, in my opinion, they're investing in some of the best vinyl pressings (very quite, very) and seemingly uncompressed, natural sounding records out there. No joke, if you need a break from the over processing that goes on these days, at least once in a while, then these records are your ticket. Thanks for Sharing Ken, excellent vid.
Hey Ken, I know you are a big mono recording fan, but you have to checkout the Tone Poet version of "Cornbread". Holy crap.... Mind blowing.
Im in the market to buy a Kenny Burell record. I do have Kenny Burrell and John Coltrane CD. Wish a good re-issue of Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue would come out. From what i've heard the recent CD re-issue sounds super compressed. The Dexter Gordon Clubhouse sounds good when i previewed it on You Tube so I'll be picking up a vinyl copy since finding the 2007 CD remaster is next to impossible. Listening to jazz on vinyl is a better overall experience to my ears. Introducing Kenny Burrell vinyl re-issue I'll be picking up too wow what a great sounding album.
Introducing is the way to go
Thank you for your various videos. They very informative for me. What is the opening music that is heard on this video? I very much enjoy it as well.
Thank you. So long ago I don't remember but the artist is Skygaze
Great review...thanks!
"...like Monk, with more technique and less humor..." Classic. Nice job, Ken. This has been a fun ride with you.
Thanks, Joe.
Great Kenny Burrell album I have that same issue from Tone Poet.....waiting on some others that I ordered a few weeks algo from Blue Note web site they had 25 percent off....can't wait.....hope you and Fred are safe....I live in Brooklyn.....I bought Fred's other TD 124 years algo was not working at the time got it fix and had a base made for it and early this year had it send out Jim Campbell in Pennsylvania for a full restore mod....great....hope when this virus is gone that I can go to Jazz Record center.....all the best....Ed Valentin....
They are killer. They have some the ambience of the originals. not bad for many years later
Ken this is a fantastic video. Much appreciated when you discuss the music and the sound of these records. And editorialize. Much appreciated. Two requests- 1 please do a shot of your listening space /setup, 2 is there a running published list of your recommends to check out? Thx man keep em coming
Thanks. I can't share all my gear. Lots of gear, small NYC apartment. Catch my drift? You can find my setup in any of my stereophile reviews. www.stereophile.com/writer/160930
Love the Tone Poet copies! Only problem is I have most of the Tone Poets in the ORIGINAL 50s, 60s pressing/copies! Bought about 10-12 copies of the Music Matters ones due to not having the original pressings, dig? Sure hope the Music Matters copies I bought come out in the Tone Poets pressings! Don't get me wrong, the Music Maters series are GROOVY, but prefer to have them in the 33 rpm's!! ...Gratitude.
Ark Arkham Arkestra If I have the original pressing us, and I do have a good handful. I wouldn’t bother with music matters or town poets
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 RIGHT! I have mostly ORIGINAL pressings, bought the Music Matter series because of unreleased 60s recordings released in the 80s, 90s, dig? MM got a hold of that material and issued/package those recordings VERY NICE! Hope the Music Matters ones come out in the Tone Poets series! ...Gratitude.
@@beeman10power Dig!
Thanks for the info ken ! !!
Most of my Blue Note LPs are the DMM pressings from the mid to late 80s and they do sound a bit bright, yet on the cheapo system I had at the time they sounded great. But now with a more suitable turntable and cartridge, they do sound a bit harsh. I do like these new "Tone Poet" pressings very much. What I don't understand is why people don't like the 75th anniversary series from 5 years ago. They sound almost as good as the new 80th anniv. and the tone poet LPs.
The 75th series were done from digital masters not original analogue tape. The tone poets and 80th are from the original tapes. If you do an A/B comparison (i have) you can hear the difference. Both are good but the analogue is fuller with soundstage, detail, and warmth.
Nice review Ken keep them coming. I have all of these, I think you’re spot on. Do you have the Joe Henderson, State of the tenor vol 2? In some ways not a typical Joe Henderson record. It’s live and from later in his career, his playing style more toned back and considered. Still a quality intimate performance and just stunning sound. Gets my 093s real excited
Yes, time to do another TP review rundown
Clubhouse is killer, getting as much of these BN Tome Poet series...
Hey, since your also an audiophile.....what cartridge are you using on you Thorens? I would love to see you review cartridges specially for jazz. Are you using MM or MC? Would enjoy your opinion. Finally, are you collecting or starting to collect classical?
Hi Mark, on the Thorens: Denon DL 103. On Kuzma: Hana ML. I stick with MC. I do collect classical, though I am a novice. But classical is the true end game for an audiophile imo
Great video! I’ve yet to pick up any of Tone Poet series. Checked out the selections here and I’m loving the Dexter Gordon! I’ll have to pick it up and a couple others for sure! Thanks for the reviews
Please keep reviewing the Tone Poets! You've mentioned that Kenny Burrell was the most difficult to find, but is it harder than Tina Brookes - Minor Moves? Thanks!
Great review thanks. May I enquirer what was the tune playing at 13.04 at the start of the Kenny Burrell segment of the review. I know it but I just cant think of it...
Hello....Please..what is the music playing in the intro? Thank You.
Hey Ken (or any other members of the JVC), remember that old Paul Newman movie called "the Hustler"? A true classic. Anyway I picked up the OST because the music throughout the movie is just fantastic. The only problem with the soundtrack is that it only has a slew of short pieces. I was hoping that there were more "actual" tunes, but apparently they were written for the length of the scene and that's it.
So the question is, could you recommend an album or two (or ten) that have the same feel and texture of this soundtrack? I'm listening to "Night Dreamer" right now and it made me think of that it so I thought I'd see if you might know where I could find some more of this kind of stuff. All suggestions are welcome.
😁✌️Cheers!
I have to say that to see alway Andrew Hill introduced with a comparison to Thelonious Monk doesn't do him justice. It would not be correct to present Coltrane and Dolphy as musicians influenced by Parker, while it's technically correct. Sure, there's some truth in saying that Hill sounds a bit like "Monk with less humour", but (even if probably it's not what you meant) it seems like he was just a gifted epigone and not much more than that. While he was one of the most extraordinary musicians (and composers) in the genre.
ThxK 💎
Ken it would be great if you could explain why you like the Tone Poet series vs Music Matters when they are identical except the distribution network. Did something change in Kevin Gray’s mastering chain?
This is a discussion better suited to my group. for starters, MM's $65 and whatever price they end up, and TP's list price of $35, which can be had much cheaper. I have no idea what's up with KC. Maybe ask Ron Rambach. But on my rig, MMs uniformly sound lush, pretty, thick and lacking in dynamics. And they remove the sound of RVG's studio, the ambience of the room, his cues. TPs are closer to the originals (and I own and have heard many from Lex to 63rd) with better top-end resolution and dynamics. That's my answer, and I won't go into an extensive back and forth here. I've discussed this ad nauseum, and won't repeat myself here. Thanks.
Hey Ken! What is that new track you have the beginning of your videos? That thing hits hard
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What make is the turntable in the promo shots?
L. M. Kuzma Stabi R
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 thanks, ken!
What starts playing at 00:40?
When you say "vinylz" some people don't know you're joking. I'm seeing more channels with people saying "vinyls". Let's help correct this by getting the word out! 👍
Kenny burrell, just look at francis wolfs photo’s, you can even see the lamp in the livingroom, isn’t that great ! Grtz from the netherlands
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Is that Jojo at the intro?
view from the moon by skygaze
$35 is great, not as the motherfuckers $75 from Music Matters.
Great.The Baby Face 80's stinks
The Baby Face record has a serious problem with the guitar sound, heavy digital distortion. I think it was recorded that way, you hear it is a distortion of the guitar channel, a mistake RVG made. Some guitar player fiddle with the volume knob on the guitar and this can drive ingeneers crazy as they gain a channel for one volume and when you change it on the instrument, it will generate problems. With piano sound? RVG made everything sound great except piano, RVG´s piano is a no go, nobody likes it who ever heard a real piano. This tell you that nobody is perfect, even not recording god RVG.