Draw + Discuss // Meat-Eating Herbivores???

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  • @OX_3102
    @OX_3102 Місяць тому +75

    I personally think being eaten accidentally would be much more fear evoking, purely because of the sheer size of the animal that would be consuming you. I can only imagine how it feels to be a field mouse and then you're suddenly scooped up by the jaws of a wildebeest and crushed.

    • @lumwukfriendselectronicgam9754
      @lumwukfriendselectronicgam9754 Місяць тому +9

      yeah i imagined one of those "found footage" videos where the person finds a ceratopsian eating a dead animal then they get charged by the unpredictable herbivore who would impale and drop them and just in view of the drops camera you could see the dino crunching the bones and breaking the possibly still conscious persons arms or legs

  • @jacobcox4565
    @jacobcox4565 Місяць тому +26

    I feel like Hadrosaurs would've eaten a few bones if they had the chance.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +10

      @jacobcox4565 Oh I'm sure, calcium seems to be a hard thing to pull from a lot of plant species - though I don't know if prehistoric plants were more calcium rich

  • @maisamzeiad1421
    @maisamzeiad1421 Місяць тому +31

    The concept is honestly realistic to me, it does resemble on how modern day herbivores tend to attack any animals (especially a predator) if they were starving or felt threatened, and yeah, herbivores are literally one of the most dangerous, and if not, herbivores are the most dangerous group of animals

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +8

      @maisamzeiad1421 Yeppppp, people totally underestimate herbivores! That's why they go up to bison, moose, elk, etc for a cute photo and then are shocked when they get STOMPED

  • @Roar8384
    @Roar8384 Місяць тому +65

    ThatVeganTeacher needs to learn about this.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +35

      @Roar8384 Wait until she finds out plants 'scream' from danger/pain with chemical signals if they are being damaged

    • @fallenpuddingreal
      @fallenpuddingreal Місяць тому +22

      ​@@-aureum-wait until she finds out about carnivourus plants

    • @Manicthecreator
      @Manicthecreator Місяць тому +4

      @@-aureum- the plants that do that is a reflects plants don’t hVe any form of sentinel tho the plants still have a way to tell other that there is danger even if there not mentally there since they don’t exist in that way

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +12

      @@Manicthecreator True, but you can argue a lack of sentience in most animal species, but we still acknowledge they feel pain or distress in some way, even if it different from our own (ie many people are no longer comfortable boiling lobsters alive and will pre kill before cooking)

    • @PuppyLuvU2
      @PuppyLuvU2 Місяць тому +2

      @@-aureum- I find the argument kinda funny in a way of how it is "more ethical" to be vegan because in fact plants can feel pain and its just that we are unable to perceive their expression of feeling pain with our own limited senses. Just because you can't understand somethings suffering dose not mean it is not suffering. The smell of fresh cut grass is kinda weird when you understand this.

  • @user-H_m
    @user-H_m Місяць тому +13

    YIPPEEE I LOVE BOTH DIABLO AND LYTHRONAX!! Probably my favorite tyrannosaurid and one of my favorite ceratopsians! Also I have really thought about this topic before and I am VERY HAPPY you covered it!!

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      So happy to hear that! Lythronax is done and will get its own video way in the future, so you'll have something fun to see down the road!

  • @BetaCentauri13
    @BetaCentauri13 Місяць тому +10

    I've gotta drop a like for that "VeeEEERrrY SCaaaaAAAARRRYYY" alone :P

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      @@BetaCentauri13 Thank you! SpooooOooooOooky 👻👻

  • @Manicthecreator
    @Manicthecreator Місяць тому +10

    One I saw a edmontosaurs skull i was like what if it was a carnivore that beak was so big

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @@Manicthecreator I wouldn't be shocked if a ton of rexes lost arms or chunks of flesh to that beak!

    • @Manicthecreator
      @Manicthecreator Місяць тому +4

      @@-aureum- the beak was strong but the bite force was not that strong to tear that much flesh from a rex tho small pieces and chunks would prob happen

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +3

      @Manicthecreator Maybe less or a tear and more of a crunch? I've been bitten by a horse and even though they have a low bite force and blunt teeth, that messed up my hand for sure!

  • @hypertion
    @hypertion Місяць тому +17

    Right.. people realize herbivores eat meat irl when given the chance?
    Deer will eat chipmunks, squirrels, birds etc if they catch them.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +8

      @@hypertion YEP! Not too many people seem to know outside of nature nerds

    • @Nockgun
      @Nockgun Місяць тому +2

      @@-aureum-or people who are aware of the wild

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +3

      @Nockgun also true! I think maybe a lot of people are more disconnected from nature now, where the food you buy comes from, etc. But not everyone, obviously!

    • @Nockgun
      @Nockgun Місяць тому +3

      @@-aureum- such as morality
      morality is a human made concept truly
      the nature does not have a concept of mercy itself, especially on other species or in competition. A wise dragon said.
      Is it better to be born good. Or overcome evil through great effor?

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @Nockgun Very true, even in social species that cooperate, the true goal is fitness and preservation of personal genetics, so what is perceived as compassion is often simply a cooperative effort to spread genes. Humans love to anthropomorphize (which isn't a bad thing!) and it can cause a disconnect between the human and the inhuman

  • @TerraStory225MYA
    @TerraStory225MYA Місяць тому +16

    There is really no such thing as an obligate herbivore in large land animals. Gotta get protein and calcium to live. Deer will eat birds, cows will eat small mammals and birds too. No doubt herbivorous dinosaurs got their meat supplements too.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +4

      @@TerraStory225MYA pretty crazy!

    • @Nockgun
      @Nockgun Місяць тому +1

      especially if its on mist nets

  • @leannweaver7807
    @leannweaver7807 Місяць тому +4

    Just like deer, cows, or caribou, Tortoises have also been found eating baby birds that are to helpless to outrun them. You don't really think a tortoise, which most species main diet is leafy greens, hay, fruit and different types of plants, would have a taste for meat, but they've been seen going out of their way to chase down baby birds.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      @@leannweaver7807 Yep! I included that in this video because it's so surprising!

  • @lolpower2174
    @lolpower2174 Місяць тому +2

    Love the art!! The way you do your lineart is so satisfying!! :D

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@lolpower2174 thank you so much!!

  • @IceRiver1020
    @IceRiver1020 Місяць тому +2

    Herbivores actually being opportunistic meat eaters is one of my favorite animal facts lol. Animal stories that like to demonize carnivores drive me crazy, because they're just doing what they need to survive, and herbivores *really* aren’t any "better."

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @IceRiver1020 Yep, two sides of the same coin. And if you get really pedantic about it, plants are alive too so unless the creature only subsists off sunlight, it's probably eating something that was once alive

  • @Ons_TV
    @Ons_TV Місяць тому +3

    I read about this, this truly changed my perspective on all herbivores

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @@Ons_TV YEP! I'm honestly not sure how the misconception that they eat mostly plants means that herbivores are gentle and dumb

    • @Manicthecreator
      @Manicthecreator Місяць тому +2

      @@-aureum-the term herbivores means that they eat mostly plants (mostly) it never said they always
      Herbis can’t digest meat that much only one they need to because it can cause discomfort I mean even wolves do that sometimes they need to eat something that has something that meat does not have such as plants and wolves have been known to graze in mushrooms and stuff

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      @Manicthecreator For sure! There's even a group of wolves specializing in coastal life and I think seaweed is a pretty good bit of their diet

    • @Manicthecreator
      @Manicthecreator Місяць тому

      @@-aureum- I mean tree had tough skin I mean really tough skin but it would not stop a Edmonto to take a small bite.

  • @Minoka_kit
    @Minoka_kit Місяць тому +1

    Love the way you sketch

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much!

  • @Sct5_2102
    @Sct5_2102 Місяць тому +9

    I now have an idea… Let me begin
    Boss: Enraged Diabloceratops
    Chances of character survival: slim
    He is enraged, he will make sure there are no survivors at the end of this
    🫡

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @@Sct5_2102 The boss music for an enraged diabloceratops would go INSANE

    • @Sct5_2102
      @Sct5_2102 Місяць тому +4

      Elden ring but it’s a baby lythronax trying to survive. Enraged Diablo would be a challenge for early game..
      Anything in its path wont see the light of day again 🫡

  • @FusionMateAI
    @FusionMateAI Місяць тому +1

    purely because of the sheer size of the animal that would be consuming you. I can only imagine how it feels to be a field mouse and then you're suddenly scooped up by the jaws of a wildebeest and crushed.

  • @jodebever
    @jodebever Місяць тому +8

    normal herbivores are scary enough

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @@jodebever Right!? People need to fear herbivores more 🤣

    • @EchoInTheDark-k7p
      @EchoInTheDark-k7p Місяць тому +2

      Moose, moose especially... They could easily kill someone, they could also probably destroy a car

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@EchoInTheDark-k7p For sure, people absolutely don't give moose enough space and respect

    • @SmurfieDurfie
      @SmurfieDurfie Місяць тому +1

      I love all animals, but they are still very scary anways. People should respect them with fear aswell in my opinion :)

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@SmurfieDurfie Exactly, respect from a safe distance!

  • @kittycat7034
    @kittycat7034 Місяць тому +3

    Why are there more comments than likes-
    Great vid, btw! Love this kinda content.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @kittycat7034 Thank you!! The algorithm is tricky, so not many people watch but those who do are always so kind and leave such fun comments!

  • @Manicthecreator
    @Manicthecreator Місяць тому +7

    There is no true herbi or carni
    It really means that they eat more of this then this
    I mean there’s only a few strict carnivores such as cats but not many others.
    It’s really just what they mostly eat cows and eat plants most of the times and wolves eat meat most of the time but sometimes they can eat meat or plants
    It’s gonna be somewhat hard to digest but they can still get some nutrients. It’s like a supplement like a pill they gotta get there protein supplement once a day lol

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@Manicthecreator exactly!

  • @UhmAnywayMeBored
    @UhmAnywayMeBored Місяць тому +2

    I love this series, you're so awesome!
    I hope you're doing well! 💜

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @UhmAnywayMeBored Thank you so much!! Grad school has been tough but this series always gives me something fun to work on!!

  • @dier7144
    @dier7144 Місяць тому +3

    This is the content I needed!

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@dier7144 So glad to hear it!

  • @TheraliA0
    @TheraliA0 Місяць тому +1

    Something that has never sat right with me since I learned it was stress in nature. If any species has a child, it will eat it out of stress. I had a rabbit that ate 3 of her litters bc she was so stressed, the last litter made it bc me and my mom took them and let her calm down before giving them back. This can happen for any animal, male lions even do it in competition. If another male dies or gets chased off by another, that new male will eat the other lions cubs to have its own. (Which also eliminates competition) I mean even humans do it, idk if it’s the same reason, but literally every species does it and it doesn’t sit right with me when I remember it 😓 so imma share it with yall 😼

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      Unfortunately babies are perfect little packages of protein, calcium, etc, so nutrient stress can really easily cause parental cannibalism. Plus the drive to make your own genes the dominant ones in the gene pool is STRONG, and eating babies to prevent future competition is way easier than waiting for them to grow up and try and fight them.

  • @_NEPO_
    @_NEPO_ Місяць тому +3

    Ill just remind everyone of those videos of cows and horses eating small animals

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@_NEPO_ With no hesitation!

  • @NEo0-99
    @NEo0-99 Місяць тому +5

    BAMBI NOO

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      @@NEo0-99 CRUNCH

  • @catjammm
    @catjammm Місяць тому +2

    Def. Even herbivores eat them now, via either accident or opportunity.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @catjammm I'm not sure which is scarier, a big herbi accidentally eating an animal not knowing it was in vegetation, or a big herbi chasing an animal down on purpose

  • @alang.bandala8863
    @alang.bandala8863 Місяць тому +3

    Nightmare fuel for me

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @alang.bandala8863 Just don't try to pet the wild moose and you'll be okay!.....probably

    • @alang.bandala8863
      @alang.bandala8863 Місяць тому +1

      @@-aureum- yey....? Xd

  • @sharkhorse24-44
    @sharkhorse24-44 Місяць тому +7

    fun fact, if you were to only eat meat, you'd be completely fine, and all that fat you have(if any) would slide right off you. but for the first two or three weeks you will have diarrhea.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @sharkhorse24-44 yeah I've heard the carnivore diet can lead to some stomach issues at the onset. It's not quite a perfect diet (none are) but it does seem to help some people out!

  • @Manicthecreator
    @Manicthecreator Місяць тому +2

    And honestly for dinosaur since most of them were behemoths they prob would look at us as that small mammal it needs to eat for protein supplement. I mean elephants prob might think of us in that way if we ever see a elephant that’s really hungry since elephants were still very large and was the size of mid sized Dino’s such as Albertaceratops expect Alberta weighed less

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @Manicthecreator true! I think the main argument is that big meat eaters wouldn't go for us since they'd use more energy to catch us than we'd offer them....but I doubt any cargo would pass up an injured person....and I bet the herbivores would feel the same

  • @MakaiaPrice
    @MakaiaPrice Місяць тому +1

    I agree with all of your points in the video and I’ve actually seen this happen myself. I had a horse (her name was Star) but one day I was showing her a little snake just a really tiny, one little garter snake and she snatches it out of my hand! I was so surprised especially because I feed her really well and she has a really special diet because she colics if I give her anything else. So seeing her snatch up a baby snake and eat it and one bite was very disturbing. then she died two days later.😢

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      Oh no!! I'm so sorry to hear about Star, colic is such a terrible thing to battle

    • @MakaiaPrice
      @MakaiaPrice Місяць тому +2

      @@-aureum- it’s all right, I’m just happy that she had a good life at the end of the day

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      @@MakaiaPrice Absolutely, sometimes the best we can do is make sure they are loved and cared for ❤️❤️

    • @MakaiaPrice
      @MakaiaPrice Місяць тому

      @@-aureum- 😊

  • @bigdadbeefsticks
    @bigdadbeefsticks Місяць тому +1

    People discovering that animals will eat anything if the whim passes them is crazy to me.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@bigdadbeefsticks Generational info that X only eats Y is really strong! Especially as people get more disconnected from nature, the food cycle, where grocery store food comes from, etc

  • @theespacioguy
    @theespacioguy Місяць тому +1

    seeing a herbivore hunting down for food is scary in the same way it is seeing a sniper kill multiple players within melee range.
    its not natural
    it should not happen
    yet
    it somehow did

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      Gotta get those nutrients somehow! I think humans love love LOVE putting things into nice clean categorical boxes, and then when those assumptions or categories are challenged or not black and white, it feels suuuuuuuper uncomfortable

  • @PrimordialRoseberryBush
    @PrimordialRoseberryBush 19 днів тому +1

    Casual Geographic made a video about this!

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  19 днів тому +1

      @PrimordialRoseberryBush I LOVE Casual Geograpgic, I need to go catch up on his videos, the algorithm loves to hide him from me for some reason

    • @PrimordialRoseberryBush
      @PrimordialRoseberryBush 19 днів тому +1

      @@-aureum-
      Nice! He's the reason I love pigeons

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  19 днів тому +1

      @PrimordialRoseberryBush He was a huge inspiration for me to start recording my art, making learning fun (or at least attempting to on my part) helps everyone!

  • @GobiLovelocks
    @GobiLovelocks Місяць тому +2

    Deers will eat small animals and bones which makes me think it's for the purpose of calcium
    Kinda like how the news about goats drinking urine, which was caused by the goats not having a source of much needed salt

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @GobiLovelocks Yep the body asks for nutrients in weird ways, pregnant women who are low on calcium might crave eating chalk or even dirt!

    • @Seal_pupz
      @Seal_pupz 22 дні тому +1

      ​@@-aureum-wait... By pregnant woman,do you mean a pregnant human female?

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  22 дні тому

      @Seal_pupz If you mean when I'm talking about pica and eating minerals, yeah I was referencing humans, but I'm sure that other pregnant or gravid animals might search out additional minerals to support fetal development!

  • @lexibyday9504
    @lexibyday9504 Місяць тому +4

    I thought they decided that there are no true obligate herbivores and few obligate carnivores and all animals will eat both in different ratios. This does make more sense to me that a lot of those animals don't actually get nutrients from the other food source.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +1

      @lexibyday9504 I think the vast majority of scientists/nerds agree, but I don't think it's something most people without an interest in biology would ever even consider.

  • @Adam_games516
    @Adam_games516 28 днів тому +1

    The word is facoltatid horbevors

  • @Someone---somewhere
    @Someone---somewhere Місяць тому

    Cruncy snak

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@Someone---somewhere monch monch

  • @ToastedPotatos
    @ToastedPotatos 24 дні тому +1

    I hope I’m not too off topic here, but carnivores, for example - a Shark, aren’t as dangerous as many herbivores, for example - Hippos. Sharks will only see you as food if you’re a fish, not if your a pair of legs. in the water. however, with Hippopotamus, think different of you and you have the more likely chance of dying with them than a carnivorous animal. Hippopotamus are brutal in general anyway so try and stay far away from them if you know what they’re capable of…
    Shark kill fewer or more than 5 people per year, and if it were more, it would probably range to 10 or 15. which is still a whole lot of people, but it’s not 100k.
    Cows can kill 20 at least per year.
    Hippopotamus kill.. and oh my gosh, this number is huge - 500 per year. and although some carnivores have higher ratings of deaths, there are still plenty more herbivores…
    Mosquitoes kill 1M per year so that kinda defeats everything.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  23 дні тому

      Yep, the numbers are crazy!
      With cows, there's a bit of statistical mess there, since we keep thousands of cows together in a smaller space where we work with them, so the risk for injury/attack is inflated.
      But as a whole, carnivores seem to know that if they are injured they can't hunt, so they are more selective about who they go after. Herbivores seem to know at some point something is probably going to succeed in eating them, and they are ready to take you with them, or even take you out first!

  • @cowbell420
    @cowbell420 Місяць тому +1

    meat eating herbivores are due to the lack of minerals and phosphorus in certain locations in the world. There, scientific explanation for everyone.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому

      @@cowbell420 As I mentioned in the video, yep!

  • @Mario-kl8yq
    @Mario-kl8yq Місяць тому +2

    Imagine if you drew predators eating barriers or fruit now that's unrealistic and boring.

    • @-aureum-
      @-aureum-  Місяць тому +2

      @Mario-kl8yq Well I feel like it makes more sense to most people for carnos to enjoy the occasional veggie than to imagine the reverse. I'm not sure why, but one train of thought is easier to accept than the other, at least from my POV.

    • @Mario-kl8yq
      @Mario-kl8yq Місяць тому

      ​​@@-aureum-I want to say I really did like the video and your art is amazing, but I could be honest. you while some people probably don't know about herbivores eating but as someone who likes paleo art, I have never seen any art of predator's eating plants if at all. but if you look up herbivores eating meat there's mountains of it, which I understand you wouldn't want to draw a animal with big sharp teeth and claws eating plants. but herbivores eating meat is just more interesting to talk about especially during the spooky month, but even then it just feels a little empty with the lack of drawing of predators eating stuff they won't normally eat and I understand, it's weird but not eye catching.

    • @Mario-kl8yq
      @Mario-kl8yq Місяць тому

      ​​@@-aureum-it's not like I don't like seeing the parallels of modern animals to dinosaurs, because I know modern animals are brutal and dinosaurs definitely were. but I just feel like people sorta forget that predators like bears and big cats, will eat plants but we just sorta ignore that and only focus on them killing stuff which isn't inaccurate I don't know maybe am just being whiny about something that isn't a problem but when stuff like "featherd dinosaurs aren't scary" or "herbivore dinosaurs aren't scary" are just sorta thrown around like they need to validate the idea that feathers dinosaurs or herbivore aren't lame like if bears or elephants don't exist, it just sorta feels like everyone just likes drawing the most violent art imaginable which wouldn't be a bad thing but it just feels like they want to show people that feathers on dinosaurs or herbivores can be just as scary as Jurassic park monsters.after a while of seeing art like this I sorta stop thinking it's cool and sorta get numb to it but that's just my opinion, and it mostly stems from a article I saw about how giant ground sloths probably at meat and how they said they also "probably ate humans" or something as dumb as that. and then it made me realize that while people are talking on how this fluffy animal is actually a cold blooded monster, I have never seen any articles about how Andrewsarchus or the short face bears where probably omnivorous. only about how they ware dangerous beast, and why you should be grateful they're extinct, or how modern animals are more lame then the older more bloodthirsty ones. I don't know if am over thinking things,but it just feels like to me with paleo artists they'll usually gravitate towards the more cooler, violent,
      side of dinosaurs and not the more interesting and complex side of them. but people do seem to like the Action more than anything,but that's just my opinion and I could just be complaining about nothing but it is weird that people don't really like the idea of drawing a Utahraptor eating grass,but are fine with drawing a triceratops eating meat from a another thing which yah there's is more evince for than the former.but I still think we at least should address the idea instead of ignoring it for some more objectively cooler and scary but it is just my opinion of it.

    • @Mario-kl8yq
      @Mario-kl8yq Місяць тому

      ​@@-aureum-I want to quickly bring up something I said about andrewsarchus, and the sort face bear, before they conform both animals were probably omnivores people thought both were at the time hyper carnivores. but when scientists said otherwise people were not too happy about that, and I just wonder why people take such issue with a predator sometimes eating something that's not meat. again that's my opinion but they are people that really don't like the idea of it let alone with dinosaurs.