This segment is absolutely brilliant. It predates Slay The Princess by several years and yet it hits all the same notes. Your actions in this segment shape the way this segment works. Do you see the creepy house and the cryptic notes and treat the whole thing as a horror/mystery story? Congratulations, you get gruesome deaths and jumpscares. Do you treat this as an H-game? Congrats, you plow your way across the Liddell family line. Save the girls but refuse to sleep with them? The game _dislikes_ that.
What do you mean by save the girls but refuse to sleep with them. You have to sleep with Lorina in order to avoid the actual creepy-like gameplay to get out right?
Wow up until now I never noticed this but at 18:11 when you talk to the eldest sister for about .1 second she says kill and then quickly changes what she is saying. Again thank you so much for this now I can actually see more slightly hidden details that I haven't noticed and had just missed out on
This was one of my favorite parts of the game. Completely caught me off guard and I spent hours repeating it to unlock all the different scenes and dialogues. By the way, apparently the dark hair girl is supposed to be Mabel, trying to get you out of this place. Also Lorina best girl!
"I am going to Alice." "...Or so I thought..." I really like that you can actually hear the influence of Grand Guignol before you even go in near the start, with those turning gears and cogs in the background. Just from that alone, you can tell something is off, and it gets louder once you enter the door to see the family. It's almost as if, something is repainting and replaying your memories, possibly to get closer to you and rope you into it's trap in a more natural, willing way... and the very moment you deny the illusion, just like the rest of Wonderland, it all comes crashing down. Gears included. It really just goes to show how articulated everything is, but also how utterly fragile both Wonderland, and Carroll's sanity, is.
@@carlospadilla9099 Lewis Carroll was an actual author and is one of the souls trapped inside of Grimm's body, this is a twisted representation of his memories by Grand Guignol
What the hell, I didn't know you could just force open the door. I had to scare myself shitless, reloading everytime I fuck up and get stuck on that hellish place. At least my ending is nice and had a good bit of lore regarding Lewis.
@the-secret there are a lot of entities who want a piece of thr grimm. Besides it'd more likely be the girls themselves since the guignol tricks us using the form of doll alice.
@@thosanfudi1966 yeah tôi chơi thấy được lão rồi nhưng kô biết làm sao để bị lão hù doạ chơi full hết 3 dlc vs mọi câu thoại còn mỗi cái đó cho biết hết mọi thứ về game mà mãi không thấy được, thấy qua ảnh trong file game thì ko kịch tính ko có nhạc muốn thấy trực tiếp mà mãi không được
Man, none of this stuff happened for me. I just got the same ending over and over. There was no "rest" option in my room. There was no medicine no matter how many times I searched the family room for it. Also I feel like my time was much shorter than yours... I don't understand at all
Then I have another question. Who’s the girl when you open the door not the ghost lady but the small child. Is she like the soul of the children Lewis murdered?
The three girls inside the house seem to have been puppet. Judging from what's said on the radio, what happened might reflect real events that happened prior to Lewis getting taken, a distortion of events that did happen, just a scenario that Leaf made up to fuck with us, some other combination, or hell probably even more possibilities than that. There's just not enough information to be sure.
@@Nathan-tf4ht People know what's going in the game's plot, it's complicated but also directly explained to the player even if some things aren't totally clear. I don't wanna spoil things so I'll just say that your entire viewpoint in that comment is wrong. Did you play the first BS?
@@Trazen4Excuse me. What is his view? He just asked a question because honestly the plot is too confusing. Like I understand the game and story all, but if we were to try to go deep to the rabbit hole. There are many unanswered questions just like that guy stated above
The story keep repeating and repeating all the same but the roles has switched . There's Lorina and There's Alice as the Heroine, where's the Edith? Rejected, why? "Because we have too much Alice in this Wonderland"
@@sansclone1874 edith is the bird boss in the mental ward. other than just the same name, in the theatre one of the three plays shows edith and jack together in the mental ward, and in the chaos dungeon one of the bosses is eagle edith and jack the ripper. not sure if/how this is related, but before the edith fight theres a ton of static, which has played in scenes related to alice before too (like one of the sex scenes, forget whose, where if you say theyre better than alice theres static for a moment)
@@shayfarrelly2045 I tell you as before: rejected as if didn't make it as your available convenant. I know about that static stuff bru, I'm playing it all. Didn't even tried to connect all that dot, because I don't care. But if you want to know about that, let's say if the "God" intercepted to keep the storyline stay on the line.
There could be sooo many possibilities to it tbh. First at all, it's just TCO getting all in because you called the Alice Liddel. She really loves it, you know? Than, in the same time, it's Lewis mind getting destroyed since there is no little girl. For me it looks like TCO just destroys this part of GG because "hehe Alice".
Correct, this is DLC3. As to how to access it: Well first you need to beat the Old King at depth 9 of the chaos dungeon. Go to the top part of the Carroll river, if you see new enemies(2) there it means it is unlocked, if it isn't you probably need to ALSO completed the hidden route aka G or F ending, i can't tell since i always do both. Anyway if it is unlocked follow the small path to the right and you see the boat, that'd be your destination. For more specific and detailed infos, check on either of the two Gigachads that is NokthanA or Kris Subject 037, both have some kind of guides/walkthrough on that.
None of them afaik, because lewis in the game was really weird, but overall he didn't actually do anything harmfull. But he also wasn't the best teacher for other girls, so this part is probably grimm's self searching and wishing to change something. Because in all endings, if you choose to turn back, you can see, that all girls are just mannequins and none of your actions matter at the end. So it was all just for lewis inside grimm to redeem himself and feel better
It's GG's recreation of Leaf's mind rape dungeon that was used to turn Lewis' soul to black goo and mix it into Grimm's society of dead authors gangbang forever screaming in his head just outside the corner of his allowed perception.
This segment is absolutely brilliant. It predates Slay The Princess by several years and yet it hits all the same notes.
Your actions in this segment shape the way this segment works. Do you see the creepy house and the cryptic notes and treat the whole thing as a horror/mystery story? Congratulations, you get gruesome deaths and jumpscares. Do you treat this as an H-game? Congrats, you plow your way across the Liddell family line. Save the girls but refuse to sleep with them? The game _dislikes_ that.
What do you mean by save the girls but refuse to sleep with them. You have to sleep with Lorina in order to avoid the actual creepy-like gameplay to get out right?
@@SerpentYoukai i dont think you have to
27:33 "Ayo the pizza here."
My ears burn
Wow up until now I never noticed this but at 18:11 when you talk to the eldest sister for about .1 second she says kill and then quickly changes what she is saying. Again thank you so much for this now I can actually see more slightly hidden details that I haven't noticed and had just missed out on
as always toro is a master at adding little details
Now you mention it
The music also stops in that one second.
This was one of my favorite parts of the game. Completely caught me off guard and I spent hours repeating it to unlock all the different scenes and dialogues.
By the way, apparently the dark hair girl is supposed to be Mabel, trying to get you out of this place. Also Lorina best girl!
Lorina make a deal with THE TCO just to be with Lewis, he was targeting the wrong girl
Pause here 13:12 you will see the dark hair girl is actually a reference to the Alice IRL
Kinda disappointed that I couldn't get any snusnu from that tall ass ghost
Damn no Ghost Mommies
Oh yeah 😂
I mean well this is a memory of Black Souls version of Lewis Carroll and giving how in lore how everything starts...
Ong hassaku best girl bro
"I am going to Alice."
"...Or so I thought..."
I really like that you can actually hear the influence of Grand Guignol before you even go in near the start, with those turning gears and cogs in the background. Just from that alone, you can tell something is off, and it gets louder once you enter the door to see the family.
It's almost as if, something is repainting and replaying your memories, possibly to get closer to you and rope you into it's trap in a more natural, willing way... and the very moment you deny the illusion, just like the rest of Wonderland, it all comes crashing down. Gears included.
It really just goes to show how articulated everything is, but also how utterly fragile both Wonderland, and Carroll's sanity, is.
Wait. Carrol is a women right?
@@carlospadilla9099 Lewis Carroll was an actual author and is one of the souls trapped inside of Grimm's body, this is a twisted representation of his memories by Grand Guignol
13:12 "This my house-"
*Slams the door*
*Opens again to find none*
*"Must have been the wind"*
That is the real Alice Lindel. To think that historically she doesn't actually have blonde hair shock me.
27:33 holy shit I never noticed that she says “sensei…” VERY quietly.
6:41 BOO!
I didn't even know this segment has multiple endings, that's crazy.
Also, I never thought about it, but is Alice's "Boo!" voice Kizuna AI? xD
That "boo" surprised me more than the "smiling man" jumpscare.
What the hell, I didn't know you could just force open the door. I had to scare myself shitless, reloading everytime I fuck up and get stuck on that hellish place.
At least my ending is nice and had a good bit of lore regarding Lewis.
Hence the mental ward door referring to this.
Door. In short, don’t give up.
Scared the shit out of me more than any horror game
16:03. Top left behind the message, there's a face
That's probably granguignol face
@the-secret there are a lot of entities who want a piece of thr grimm. Besides it'd more likely be the girls themselves since the guignol tricks us using the form of doll alice.
"One more thing, no leaving."
"Up yours blondie, I'm outta here!"
that one effed family situation
I played the Vietnamese version and had no way to meet that tall man, which was strange
ý ông là cái thằng cha mặt cười hả
@@thosanfudi1966 yeah tôi chơi thấy được lão rồi nhưng kô biết làm sao để bị lão hù doạ chơi full hết 3 dlc vs mọi câu thoại còn mỗi cái đó cho biết hết mọi thứ về game mà mãi không thấy được, thấy qua ảnh trong file game thì ko kịch tính ko có nhạc muốn thấy trực tiếp mà mãi không được
dm tự nhiên cmt bị ẩn k thấy j
So that mean Grimm was the king of cunn* XD
It's Carrol who is predator
Grimm become predator because carrol is part of Grimm
How many personalities does Grimm have?
@@williammartinez5638 9
Check in BS2 poseidon hotel scene
8 if i remember right@@williammartinez5638
@@williammartinez5638 at minimum 9 due to the scene in the terrible tragic hotel
World filled with adorable girls.
Man, none of this stuff happened for me. I just got the same ending over and over. There was no "rest" option in my room. There was no medicine no matter how many times I searched the family room for it. Also I feel like my time was much shorter than yours... I don't understand at all
Same
At 19:32 I’m having a hard time guessing who this is? Is it Alice grown up or something? If anyone knows please tell me
We simply don't know
Then I have another question. Who’s the girl when you open the door not the ghost lady but the small child. Is she like the soul of the children Lewis murdered?
@@Neo-iy1jz We just don't know
@@Neo-iy1jz the girl appearing when u open the door is probably a reference to Alice Lindell irl, yes the real Alice when she was little
@@Neo-iy1jzMabel
Lorina looks like red hood
she looks more like bandersnatch
She is the queen
@@luanzero948 Is she Queen Of The Heart? Because she used to say: "Off goes your head" and "Please don't kill me, sensei"
I don't understand what happened and I can't tell which is the good ending.
yeah that pretty much sums up blacksouls.
@@EvilArchive so nobody knows what's going on? Are we the good guys the bad guy? Do we save the world or destroy it?
The three girls inside the house seem to have been puppet.
Judging from what's said on the radio, what happened might reflect real events that happened prior to Lewis getting taken, a distortion of events that did happen, just a scenario that Leaf made up to fuck with us, some other combination, or hell probably even more possibilities than that. There's just not enough information to be sure.
@@Nathan-tf4ht People know what's going in the game's plot, it's complicated but also directly explained to the player even if some things aren't totally clear. I don't wanna spoil things so I'll just say that your entire viewpoint in that comment is wrong. Did you play the first BS?
@@Trazen4Excuse me. What is his view? He just asked a question because honestly the plot is too confusing.
Like I understand the game and story all, but if we were to try to go deep to the rabbit hole. There are many unanswered questions just like that guy stated above
is Lorina the same one as Lorina queen of hearts? She suddenly said off with your head
The story keep repeating and repeating all the same but the roles has switched .
There's Lorina and There's Alice as the Heroine, where's the Edith? Rejected, why? "Because we have too much Alice in this Wonderland"
@@sansclone1874That....might explain why lorina is so lovestruck with Grimm if he bothered to make a covenant with her
@@sansclone1874 edith is the bird boss in the mental ward. other than just the same name, in the theatre one of the three plays shows edith and jack together in the mental ward, and in the chaos dungeon one of the bosses is eagle edith and jack the ripper. not sure if/how this is related, but before the edith fight theres a ton of static, which has played in scenes related to alice before too (like one of the sex scenes, forget whose, where if you say theyre better than alice theres static for a moment)
@@shayfarrelly2045 I tell you as before: rejected as if didn't make it as your available convenant.
I know about that static stuff bru, I'm playing it all. Didn't even tried to connect all that dot, because I don't care. But if you want to know about that, let's say if the "God" intercepted to keep the storyline stay on the line.
I think so. Because she used to say: "Off goes your head" and "Please don't kill me, sensei"
6:40
I was honestly thinking the myster girl was maybe red hood, the disheveledness especially made it seem that way.
can you upload what happen if I anger the Serpent God?
yeah
@@EvilArchiveHave you uploaded it?
It's very annoying how it chases u everywhere and u can't kill him, the only way u can do is escape
Why did everything start falling apart after calling Alice's name?
There could be sooo many possibilities to it tbh.
First at all, it's just TCO getting all in because you called the Alice Liddel. She really loves it, you know?
Than, in the same time, it's Lewis mind getting destroyed since there is no little girl.
For me it looks like TCO just destroys this part of GG because "hehe Alice".
is this in the normal game or a dlc
dlc 3
okay i regret using a guide for this segment
i've been playing the game for a while and, is this dlc? how do you access this part?
Correct, this is DLC3. As to how to access it: Well first you need to beat the Old King at depth 9 of the chaos dungeon. Go to the top part of the Carroll river, if you see new enemies(2) there it means it is unlocked, if it isn't you probably need to ALSO completed the hidden route aka G or F ending, i can't tell since i always do both.
Anyway if it is unlocked follow the small path to the right and you see the boat, that'd be your destination.
For more specific and detailed infos, check on either of the two Gigachads that is NokthanA or Kris Subject 037, both have some kind of guides/walkthrough on that.
There got no "rest" button on me 🙏
I hate this part thanks for videos because i never do this again lmao
Which ending is cannon?
None of them afaik, because lewis in the game was really weird, but overall he didn't actually do anything harmfull. But he also wasn't the best teacher for other girls, so this part is probably grimm's self searching and wishing to change something. Because in all endings, if you choose to turn back, you can see, that all girls are just mannequins and none of your actions matter at the end. So it was all just for lewis inside grimm to redeem himself and feel better
It's GG's recreation of Leaf's mind rape dungeon that was used to turn Lewis' soul to black goo and mix it into Grimm's society of dead authors gangbang forever screaming in his head just outside the corner of his allowed perception.
The real ending was ending H
There's no more loop the story is closed
How to get to this part?
winterbell
@EvilArchive how to get to winterbell?
Bros diddy wtf💀💀
Hes sensei 😭😭
Its just lewis don't mind it
i loved playing through both these games, but i'm really not vibing with the fucking kids thing 💀
"but I'm not really vibing with the fu-AAAACCCCCCKĶK"
What are u saying that is the best part
UOH! 😭😭😭
And that's the reason we gatekeep Black Souls. Don't want no snowflakes complaining about the 🍇 and loli stuff.
@@Jeramuse loli and minors are two different things.