when they say violin can't play jazz
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2023
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Original video: • Second Line (Joe Avery...
Performed by: Mark O'Connor & Wynton Marsalis Quintet
Transcribed by: BA
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As someone who's teaching jazz to some violins and cellos, thank you for giving me something to show them
Monsters Inc. soundtrack could be something
Just introduce them to Stéfane Grappelli, surely? 😂
(Or Didier Lockwood, Dorado Schmitt, etc.)
Zach Brock from snarky puppy is an exceptional jazz violinist. You should check out his solo on the album version of 34 klezma, or this version of lingus which he soloed over ua-cam.com/video/XJa4WTDgMFU/v-deo.html could be useful :)
Also Zac Brock's violin playing on some Snarky Puppy stuff like 34 Klezma
Check Jean Luc Ponty (extensive solo career as well as playing with the likes of Frank Zappa and Chick Corea,) Jerry Goodman (really prolific but is most famous for his work on Mahavishnu Orchestra's first three albums) and David Cross (more of a rock violinist, most famous for his work with King Crimson in the 1970s.)
Any instrument can be used to play jazz if you just believe hard enough!
Кроме гобоя.
Even mayonnaise
yeah mate i love playing a bit off jazz euphonium
What about bagpipes?
@@henzwangah, beat me to it
Legends say this violin gave birth to a fiddle shortly after the solo
Finally some representation for my instrument in this genre!! Thank you George
Have you heard of stephane grapelli? Look him up, absolutely wonderful player
Look up Frank Zappa's album "Hot Rats." Features absolutely top tier playing by Sugarcane Harris and Jean-Luc Ponty, both of whom are titans of jazz violin. Mahavishnu Orchestra also featured amazing violin work from Jerry Goodman on their first three albums "The Inner Mounting Flame," "Birds of Fire," and "Between Nothingness and Eternity." More recent acts like the jazz-prog-metal-who really knows ensemble Thank You Scientist and electroswing legends Caravan Palace are keeping jazz violin in the zeitgeist.
@@noahyudkin5458 Man Stephane Grappelli is incredible, all of his stuff with Django is gold, and I really enjoy his album with Michel Petrucciani.
@@noahyudkin5458Stephen Grapelli, Regina Carter, Karen Briggs, Didier Lockwood, John Blake 😍
@@noahyudkin5458yo facts bro. Guys a legend.
Every solo from this performance is phenomenal! Definitely one of my favorite renditions of this tune!
I swear it doesn’t even sound like a violin half the time
it sounds like a violin bro you trippin
@@Propernoob56nah at the beginning it sounds like a soprano sax and towards the end it sounds more like a guitar with the triplet patterns 💀
Sounds like a fiddle.
What kinda violin u been listening to 😂
Might I introduce you to the fiddle
Just anotha day of George putting Twoset out of business
Then he busts out some blues to prove them wrong?
😅
Literally how the hell is he even doing that
It just takes practice
@@AcidSpitter783captain obvious strikes again
When you rub the bow on the strings it makes a sound. Literally
He's definitely sliding in and out of notes. My understanding is that due to the high tension of the strings, you can't really bend notes.
With all due respect to Mark, the actual melodic line he is playing is very, very simple. The beauty lies in his musicianship and improvisation. He simply adds a few glissandos (slides) as he plays
"Duke Ellington's Jazz Violin Session" and Stephane Grappelli & Django Reinhardt's Djangology are 2 EXCELLENT albums filled with the best examples of strings playing jazz that have ever been recorded.
Nobody... says that?
I played in a lead sheet inspired type university jazz band for 4 years with a 2 violinists at one point. One of them was the main drummer so he only played occasional solos.
If a bass violin can be used for jazz, so can a soprano!
I’ll never understand why some people think some instruments, “can’t play jazz.” I can almost understand that statement theoretically as some instruments that are played only in singular keys will be severely limited when some tunes modulate through multiple key centers-but even then you can improvise rhythmically like many percussionists do.
To be fair violin is quite an accomplished instrument in Gypsy jazz and have been for a while. For example the early recordings of Django Reinhardt. But it is nice to see it get some more recognition 😊
Mark was incredible. Really enjoyed his wonderful playing with Steve Morse’s Dregs.
that's why they separate violin and fiddle even though they are literally the same instrument
Yeah, I still dont understand the separation and I've been playing violin for 10 years now
It's funny how people, musicians, jazz musicians don't recognize violins can do jazz. There are great examples of jazz fiddle featuring on Louis Armstrong tracks. Gershwin writing jazz music for symphony orchestra.
Theres literally whole genres, like Western Swing, or Hot Club Jazz where jazz violin is a not just present, but a cornerstone of the genre.
Just play anything from Stéphane Grappelli and you know how jazz sounds on a violin!
nuff said
That's not just Grapelli. It's a whole genre, Hot club jazz.
@@MiglowYeah, and there are plenty of great violinists in that style, but Stéfane Grappelli was the one who created it, along with the Hot Club.
@@mtdnelson props to Grapelli. But he gets his due. I see a dozen comments mentioning him. How many have mentioned other successful jazz violinists like Regina Carter?
If people say that, all I can say is: Stepháne Grapelli, Don "Sugarcane" Harris and Jean-Luc Ponty
Ahem *cough* Vassar Clements.
Okay let's be real, who even said that? I don't think anyone worth listening to actually would gatekeep jazz like that
Exactly, someone who's evidently never heard Stéphane Grappelli.
Right, like hot club jazz is right there lol
Probably some classical folks, heh.
@@richardharrold9736Or Stuff Smith. Or Joe Venuti.
A really good trombone player who played a lot of jazz gigs actually told me that when I showed some interest in joining a performance with my violin, and his friends pretty much all agreed that the violin doesn't belong. Guess they were just wrong, this sounds amazing. But to be fair to them, it turns the sound more into a fiddle/country style, away from more pure jazz I guess
Is that John Batiste on piano?
Yup!
So I was not going insane! Looks like him having a whale of a time.
I love how the tune swings between fiddling and jazz
Do people still really believe that violins don't belong in jazz? What about banjo? Clarinet? Tuba? Lots of the early jazz instruments got pushed out in the big band era and bebop, etc., and don't end up in high school or college jazz ensembles anymore. But so what? They're part of the roots and legacy of the genre! And have people never heard Western swing? That's basically just big band jazz with vocals and violins (or, as they probably call them, "fiddles"). Literally any instrument can be part of any genre if the player has sensitivity, chops and style. But the violin in particular can definitely belong in jazz, and I didn't know that was even controversial!
If you say that you've obviously not listened to Snarky Puppy enough, Zach Brock's playing with them is terrific!!!
Mark O'Connor is phenomenal! He's a bluegrass master, a very creative composer and arranger and just incredible when improvising. As a classical violinist myself, his renditions of Bach's solo pieces are at least very interesting and captivating, as he integrates fiddle technique in the repetitions imitating the embellishments of the baroque period. Furthermore, his own Caprice for solo violin dedicated to the legend Yehudi Menuhin was a mandatory piece in Menuhin Competitions some years ago. This, I think, is the powerful connection music should bring among different genres and musicians!
THANK YOU FOR TRANSCRIBING THIS
When someone says a violin can't play jazz, it's a sure sign a violin bullied them mercillesly in middle school
I accidentally clicked the video and I seriously thought it was a sopranino sax solo.
Dude slides are so much fun on violin! I totally recommend learning to play music with them. A good one I've played is called Waltz of the Wicked.
There's a podcast called Centuries of Sound, so each episode is recordings from one specific year. (Early episodes were a couple of years together as there were so few recordings). There was a lot of jazz featuring violin in the early 20th century recordings. It just wouldn't be my cup of tea if I had a choice of other instruments to play jazz.
Can you transcribe Oblivion performed by Adam Rapa? His playing is on another level
The only time I've seen a violinist jump up and down like that as they played was at a bluegrass show. Spectacular!
You nailed it bro!
Yeaaaah, great solo man, very amazing
I forgot his him, but he was a bluegrass/fiddle champion when he was a kid and now he composes technically challenging contemporary pieces for Yehudi Menuhin competitions and some other prestigious violin competitions.
Show me an instrument that can’t be used in Jazz and I’ll show you a lack of imagination
Congratulations you’ve just discovered Texas swing
Legendary Jon Batiste on the keys. Making the Batiste family and all of NOLA proud!
I've seen violin parts in jazz scores, there's also people like Jean luc ponty who bridges genre gaps
Amazing job by Jud.
I can hear country music and jazz at the same time
I think it's blues right?
same here.. Can't unhear country when a violinist plays like this..
I would never have thought of a violin playing jazz music. Brilliant!
Stéphane Grappelli. Nuff said.
Wow...yer so brave to admit it!
@@Wintermute0168 Are you being serious or sarcastic? Soz but it's hard to tell via chat lol
@@missy1806 sorry, the stupidity got to me, i'll edit.
@@Wintermute0168 Now you have really confused me lol Either way I don't mind what you think or write. They are you're own opinions regardless, and you have as much right as anyone else to write them 😀
Everybody enjoyed that
Oh please! Joe Venuti, Mark O’Connor, Stefan Grapelli, Johnny Gimble, Larry Franklin, Kenny Sears, Joe Spivey with the Time Jumpers. Hoot Hester, Tiny Olsen, and more.
I mean... Anyone who thinks violin can't play jazz NEEDS to listen to either of the two amazing albums Jean Luc Ponty recorded with George Duke in 1969 "Live at Donte's" and "The Jean-Luc Ponty Experience with the George Duke Trio."
Mind.
BLOWING.
And before that was Jean-Luc Ponty's 1972 masterpiece album, "Sunday Walk."
Aw make it talk don. Make it talk.
He's good!
But this is like playing doom metal with an oboe.
I want to see that now lol. I know there’s a way to make it work, probably with effects pedals or something.
If it exists, George will find it.
(I think that's Rule 35.)
There is a video somewhere of someone covering necrophagist songs on a bass clarinet. It's amazing
Wait until you hear about a game called Bioshock, sound track go crazy with violin and jazz
Awesome 😮😍
We said violin cant play jazz, and so he played us like a fiddle.
I LAUGHED BAD, HELPPPP
In my channel the jazz violin is a MUST
why does this sound wild west ish
Is that Mark O'Connor on violin. I love his "In the Cluster" blues.
stephen grapelli type violin
wow
Stephane Grappelli is the jazz violin GOAT!
Cant simply put labels on instruments
it's like honky tonk jazz though
Never adapt to someone elses belief systems. You are the creator of your reality. I had to learn this the hard way.
Somebody said bluegrass?
It’s fiddle time folks
Seriously, can someone start using Paganini techniques in jazz solos?
gave me the stank
violin can't play jazz, this is a fiddle solo duh...
You can play jazz on anything.
Even mayonnaise?
sound like some woodys roundup type
Навсегда одним из самых любимых альбомов Дюка Эллингтона будет его jass violin session. ❤
When you realize jazz and country have the same origins
Zack Brock would like a word
this is just a regular Tom & Jerry episode
bluejazz
He was the only one sweating
PREACH!!!!!!!!!!
All the people in these comments just now realizing violin is used a lot in New Orleans and Texas swing music is concerning
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Waw so thrilling
Jazz Manouche.. There’s a whole genre of jazz violin... Who is saying violin can’t play jazz?
Jazz used to be part of the ensemble before the big band era and the violin was drowned out
@@DeathAngel1029 Jazz manouche experienced a resurgence in the mid 1970s...
Also the genres coexisted. It’s not like one drowned out the other.
Violin in jazz didn’t end when Jazz left the ensemble
I think I remember being at a concert where Jon Luc Ponty played a jazz violin. c.e. 1970ish
Said no one ever... Guess you've never heard of Stephan Grapelli?
Any Stéphane Grappelli tune
Stephan. Grapelli. Plays. A. 🎻 violin. In. His. Jazz. Music. So. It. Can. Be. Done
holy fucking shit
As long as an instrument can play notes or produce a beat, it can play any genre. It's the musician's lack of creativity that puts limits to the instruments.
Jazz is the ONLY thing I can play on violin, because I keep accidentally hitting wrong notes
hands of god on the piano there
❤❤❤
gyat damn
When dummies say that introduce them to Stéphane Grappelli!
"jazz violin" just sounds like country music
And band with Jon batiste in it is gonna be bangin
Let's see Paul Allen's guitar
Is this an existing song or impro?
who is saying that
....what?
Who has ever said that?
Well... Jump Blues... or Swing... early Chubby Checker New Orleans R&R... I thought I was going to hear some diminished and chromatic lines.
if anything violin is uniquely suited for jazz
makes it sound more like country music to me lul. it just doesn't sound right to me xD
Country and Jazz are children of the blues. So playing a bluesy line over Jazz may remind you of country. It’s honestly like a family reunion.
Anyone else notice Winton Marsalis at a minute in?