You’re being an absolute twat all video for no reason, no nobody wants “this type of content”… The descriptions in this game a horrendous there’s no reason for anyone to be upset at a mechanical misunderstanding and you’re literally just saying the same thing over and over.
Been messing with your build and a few others. I really like the spear and your take on it, keep up the great videos and builds. We appreciate all the work you put in so we don't have to XD
another big thing for burst is the fact that with expand conditions you can go shadow strike into brutal fury right away, killing people instantly in arena pvp with poison and umbral. ive been using the simple combo of javelin, shadow strike, ankle strike (= passive gives +800crit chance for next skill after 3 skill dmg) into 3 times brutal to melt everyone.
How does the thunder spirit off a brutal strike like that feel in its aoe? I know the explosive and fire javelin are easier to proc and use for the more medium and large scale, but I've been curious what burst looks like when relying on the dagger skills for the aoe
@@Alex-gn6ii it means you lose 2 procs on the guy your bursting, and you have to take thunderclouds, so its an investment and losing significant single target dps - but i havent tested it.
Looking forward to your updated video. One thing I appreciate about Aragon’s content is the visualization he provides in regards to the different rotations.
No one is calculating that Ignite explodes every 10 Stacks and deal 460% Damage in 3m range AOE + the Damage-over-time (DOT), which is hard to calculate
@@FRESHY_GG still more versatile than Burst. The DOT, Explode & AOE alone will make up for it. Burst build is good if you have a bow user on the team though so we have super short cooldowns
so i'm not sure if you have any insights on this, as its spear/gs and not dagger. But I have a single target rotation for bosses that has brutal fury and all the stuff you mentioned in it, and I don't know if this is also an issue with dagger, but with GS there is some... downtime.. in the rotation. as in there seems to be some time where I don't have anything off cooldown and I can only stand there and auto attack. Its not because I'm out of mana, I don't actually have much mana issue, but literally all my skills are on cooldown. Its only maybe 2-3 seconds at a time, every few minutes that this happens, but in dimensional trials, especially as the fights get longer in higher levels, I feel like it adds up a LOT to quite a bit of time where I'm just not doing DPS. Now in some fights, having to move for mechs prevents this from happening as often, as skills come off cooldown while mechs are happening, but in others it's GLARINGLY obvious. Is there something I should be trying to get on my gear to help this? will cooldown reduction help? Is my attack speed TOO fast? Am I just too fast at hitting my skills and should slow down a little unless its under a buff like trying not to let the stun run out or not let stacks fall off?
Would love to see an updated build/rotation. Currently building a Shadowdancer and following your build for PvE. Can't decide between you and Whelps for PvP lol.
No Javelin Inferno in a boss fight , no explosive fury in a boss fight , people are auto hitting cause they don’t have mana , give the party the javelin brand debuff, in melee range the cast time is very fast , go brutal fury and practice the rotation on a dummy.
Both videos are not properly prepared, because they are not counting cast time and attack speed difference, and number of hits and average evasion ratio. If you count those into the calculation single target dps for Burst builds is way higher than ignite and its more reliable. If you combine it with dagger passives or wand dmg and skill boost increase it even more significant.
At first I tried a bit ( without a full pve build for spear dagger ) but i decided it's a mana eater.... sometimes is bad asf to just stick to regen when healer has no mana help. So i stick to GS / Spear love it
Good job, very accurate. Aragon copies and pastas often and misinterpreted what he sees. I called him out for it previously. He always waits to put out content after whelps ect.
Its cute to see how people dont understand skills after 1 month of spear release. Been doing brutal fury combo day 1 and people were like omg how u'r dps is so big ??
they dont read skills or test themselves. they go on youtube , find highest view video and copy paste. then after that they come to my video and realize how much dps they been missing
6:11 if you play it back at .25 speed he only used it twice, it looks like a 3rd because he is spamming the skill input faster than the skill will allow
So, you reacted to one skill stating he was giving wrong information and that you know how it works but then, don’t know how aura works in a rotation and you main this weapon set? Maybe you both need to learn the weapon skills before making videos 😂
the whole video is based off of one wrong info and makes the comparison pointless. and bloodleech aura is pretty useless in single target dps, thats why i never used it
Blood Leech is obviously made for content with large groups of enemies. The only other use l could think of is a higher proc rate of Retaliatory Strike (crit rate), also Imposing Form (skill damage)? But again that would be much more effective in large groups.
Conflicting info about Slaughering Slash?, perhaps the translations are wrong, but Slaughering Slash is better than Rising Slash (based on translations), and no one is using the specialization Bursting Echo, which is super good for PvE
@@FRESHY_GG Rising Slash: "... Upon using an additional time, the last hit explodes, dealing 22% more damage per Burst or Ignite on the target." Slaughtering Slash: "...Each attack deals 22% increased damage per stack of the user's Burst or Ignite on the target and causes it to explode." To me, according to the translations, Slaughtering is better than Rising Slash alone, have you really tested this?. You're not only paying 7 points for AOE, but also for more damage output.
What do you expect its Aragon he's been doing this since Neverwinter he's always chatting rubbish there's only a few people I watch one of them is you and whelps.....
He just got confused because of his character atk speed. I would say mostly game fault in skills description. That being said, it was incorrect information. Also, there is not a single build tonrule them all. Fire is for 3x targets burst is for single.
ikr? its so many because most of the people dont know how good is brutal fury lmfao even if you check gate of infinity most people who do alot of damage are classes with spear, like staff spear and etc yet they still said its not good lmfao
I’m still getting instantly rejected at trials party board as a spear longbow when I literally sentinel and double marker to buff your whole teams meanwhile doing decent dps at boss( single target) 😂
@@alleksfc1167 ofcourse lmfao, the problem is people saying explosive is good in pve and bosses like hello? its obvious explosive is for pvp and brutal fury is for pve bosses single target
@@kaasseyy1 thats the problem b ecause its off meta thats why party board is so bad because of this thing i hope they have random match making like the t1 t2 dungeon in trials because if not party board will be always not realiable because they will reject off meta class
@ it’s just stupid. Its about the player not the class imo. You can get all Xbow dag GS dag “meta” classes if they don’t know mech you will still get wiped, half of these idiots can’t even do a simple rat mech. Just gotta wait for the right team. I’ve managed to find both random parties to clear t14 kertaki and t13 voidwaste tho.
I'm not defending anyone but some tooltips are written in a strange way, probably due to poor translation, some things you have to check yourself but I've seen worse tooltips in some games.Edit: I watched the whole video and thought he made a few mistakes but he literally made 1 and repeated it and that's why there's this drama?😂
its no drama. i enjoy his content. I was given this video to look over and found some interesting things, so i figured i try myself in making reacts type of content and see how people like it
Hey Freshy, this is out of the topic. I'm a silent follower of your content. I've been browsing your builds in questlog, I'd like to know on what your suggestion is in transitioning to PVP, I'd like to focus more in small scale PVP, I need your suggestion on what build should I go to; should I start collecting Melee/Range Eva build or just go directly and do your Balance/Hit build which is Range/Magic Eva?
@@FRESHY_GG thanks for replying, your Melee/Range build is still viable right? Or should I go 70 dex (with rex dagger and heroic spear) in reference to Whelp's build (melee/range) but it has only 600+ hit
@@SeanJohnDensing ill be transitioning to melee evasion with T2 gear in the future. right now I wouldn't go with melee evasion in T1 as u cant really stack that much without losing other stats
Basically for PvE: Brutal Fury = single target dps Explosive Fury = aoe dps And for PvP: Brutal Fury = assassin style, lots of multihits but get hard countered by tanks and damage reduction stat. (much like xbow/dagger) Explosive Fury = bruiser style, aoe potential and less countered by damage reduction since it has less hits and higher damage per hit. Wdyt?
Let me know if you like this type of content and if you have interesting Throne and Liberty videos I can react and do a breakdown of.
Continue to do this reaction cuz if very helpful for people
Since I also see Aragon's content, it's great that you also see it and correct it hahaha
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You’re being an absolute twat all video for no reason, no nobody wants “this type of content”… The descriptions in this game a horrendous there’s no reason for anyone to be upset at a mechanical misunderstanding and you’re literally just saying the same thing over and over.
Been messing with your build and a few others. I really like the spear and your take on it, keep up the great videos and builds. We appreciate all the work you put in so we don't have to XD
another big thing for burst is the fact that with expand conditions you can go shadow strike into brutal fury right away, killing people instantly in arena pvp with poison and umbral. ive been using the simple combo of javelin, shadow strike, ankle strike (= passive gives +800crit chance for next skill after 3 skill dmg) into 3 times brutal to melt everyone.
Yea i have a single target burst pvp build on questlog for arenas
How does the thunder spirit off a brutal strike like that feel in its aoe? I know the explosive and fire javelin are easier to proc and use for the more medium and large scale, but I've been curious what burst looks like when relying on the dagger skills for the aoe
@Alex-gn6ii burst isnt really for aoe
@@Alex-gn6ii it means you lose 2 procs on the guy your bursting, and you have to take thunderclouds, so its an investment and losing significant single target dps - but i havent tested it.
Looking forward to your updated video. One thing I appreciate about Aragon’s content is the visualization he provides in regards to the different rotations.
No one is calculating that Ignite explodes every 10 Stacks and deal 460% Damage in 3m range AOE + the Damage-over-time (DOT), which is hard to calculate
It still doesnt add up to more dmg
@@FRESHY_GGnot to a single target.. But the spear shines in mass pvp to begin with.
@@FRESHY_GG still more versatile than Burst. The DOT, Explode & AOE alone will make up for it. Burst build is good if you have a bow user on the team though so we have super short cooldowns
so i'm not sure if you have any insights on this, as its spear/gs and not dagger. But I have a single target rotation for bosses that has brutal fury and all the stuff you mentioned in it, and I don't know if this is also an issue with dagger, but with GS there is some... downtime.. in the rotation. as in there seems to be some time where I don't have anything off cooldown and I can only stand there and auto attack. Its not because I'm out of mana, I don't actually have much mana issue, but literally all my skills are on cooldown. Its only maybe 2-3 seconds at a time, every few minutes that this happens, but in dimensional trials, especially as the fights get longer in higher levels, I feel like it adds up a LOT to quite a bit of time where I'm just not doing DPS. Now in some fights, having to move for mechs prevents this from happening as often, as skills come off cooldown while mechs are happening, but in others it's GLARINGLY obvious. Is there something I should be trying to get on my gear to help this? will cooldown reduction help? Is my attack speed TOO fast? Am I just too fast at hitting my skills and should slow down a little unless its under a buff like trying not to let the stun run out or not let stacks fall off?
Get more bows in a party. Spear dagger relies alot on deadly marker cd
Co-signing what freshy said ^. If you get longbows in your party then you’ll have virtually 0 downtime on the skills.
Would love to see an updated build/rotation. Currently building a Shadowdancer and following your build for PvE. Can't decide between you and Whelps for PvP lol.
No Javelin Inferno in a boss fight , no explosive fury in a boss fight , people are auto hitting cause they don’t have mana , give the party the javelin brand debuff, in melee range the cast time is very fast , go brutal fury and practice the rotation on a dummy.
If this doesn’t highlight the fact that a large % of the player has no idea what they’re really doing , idk what does 😂❤
Both videos are not properly prepared, because they are not counting cast time and attack speed difference, and number of hits and average evasion ratio. If you count those into the calculation single target dps for Burst builds is way higher than ignite and its more reliable. If you combine it with dagger passives or wand dmg and skill boost increase it even more significant.
Nice video Freshy, thanks for explaining your thoughts and not just critiquing
At first I tried a bit ( without a full pve build for spear dagger ) but i decided it's a mana eater.... sometimes is bad asf to just stick to regen when healer has no mana help. So i stick to GS / Spear love it
Brilliant insights. I have yet to pickup the Spear/Dagger combo but looking into it. ❤
Good job, very accurate. Aragon copies and pastas often and misinterpreted what he sees. I called him out for it previously. He always waits to put out content after whelps ect.
Its cute to see how people dont understand skills after 1 month of spear release. Been doing brutal fury combo day 1 and people were like omg how u'r dps is so big ??
they dont read skills or test themselves. they go on youtube , find highest view video and copy paste. then after that they come to my video and realize how much dps they been missing
6:11 if you play it back at .25 speed he only used it twice, it looks like a 3rd because he is spamming the skill input faster than the skill will allow
it shouldn't still go on the cooldown. i never had it happen while I spam this skills like crazy too
frenshy the best on TL guide man love it. !
Good reaction video!
So, you reacted to one skill stating he was giving wrong information and that you know how it works but then, don’t know how aura works in a rotation and you main this weapon set? Maybe you both need to learn the weapon skills before making videos 😂
the whole video is based off of one wrong info and makes the comparison pointless. and bloodleech aura is pretty useless in single target dps, thats why i never used it
Blood Leech is obviously made for content with large groups of enemies. The only other use l could think of is a higher proc rate of Retaliatory Strike (crit rate), also Imposing Form (skill damage)? But again that would be much more effective in large groups.
Man i need a little help. Witch one order of Spear passive skill to make lv5? actually everyone is lv3
Attack speed and crit
Shots fired . Top content I’m here for it 🍿 good vid freshy
Any chance you got a great sword spear guide?
check whelps questlog hes got some builds there
Build ?
can we get spear / gs build please? also, when it comes to spear, same specializations work with both dagger and gs or they are tweaked?
i can try cooking something up, but whelps has pretty good gs/spear builds on questlog
@@FRESHY_GG I WANT YOUR INSIGHTS... WEEEE WANT YOUR INSIGHTS.
@@Flajukas i dont play gs/spear, but ill cook something up with a guildmate who does
@@FRESHY_GG nice, ill be waiting
@@FRESHY_GG happy new year man, when can we expect spear gs build ?
Nice work bro, do you think in t2 bow dagg will be good again? And right now is a good time to swap to spear, asking literality your opinion.
i wouldnt swap before T2 gear. wait it out for now
Conflicting info about Slaughering Slash?, perhaps the translations are wrong, but Slaughering Slash is better than Rising Slash (based on translations), and no one is using the specialization Bursting Echo, which is super good for PvE
It does exactly the same damage. U spend 7 points for AOE instead single target
@@FRESHY_GG Rising Slash: "... Upon using an additional time, the last hit explodes, dealing 22% more damage per Burst or Ignite on the target."
Slaughtering Slash: "...Each attack deals 22% increased damage per stack of the user's Burst or Ignite on the target and causes it to explode."
To me, according to the translations, Slaughtering is better than Rising Slash alone, have you really tested this?. You're not only paying 7 points for AOE, but also for more damage output.
Everyone makes mistakes. I'm biased tho, I like Aragon's content. He's generally pretty reliable. Thank you, Freshy for fixing his bad info.
Wasnt meant as a mockery or anything. I like his content
What do you expect its Aragon he's been doing this since Neverwinter he's always chatting rubbish there's only a few people I watch one of them is you and whelps.....
He just got confused because of his character atk speed. I would say mostly game fault in skills description. That being said, it was incorrect information. Also, there is not a single build tonrule them all. Fire is for 3x targets burst is for single.
Cant argue with that..skill descp is terrble
I feel sorry for the people that follow Aragon make builds because you're making your builds all wrong😂😂😂😂
ikr? its so many because most of the people dont know how good is brutal fury lmfao
even if you check gate of infinity most people who do alot of damage are classes with spear, like staff spear and etc yet they still said its not good lmfao
For PvP Explosive Fury its better just because you have access to Javelin Inferno but yeah, for Bosses Brutal Furty its better.
I’m still getting instantly rejected at trials party board as a spear longbow when I literally sentinel and double marker to buff your whole teams meanwhile doing decent dps at boss( single target) 😂
@@alleksfc1167 ofcourse lmfao, the problem is people saying explosive is good in pve and bosses like hello? its obvious explosive is for pvp and brutal fury is for pve bosses single target
@@kaasseyy1 thats the problem b ecause its off meta thats why party board is so bad because of this thing i hope they have random match making like the t1 t2 dungeon in trials because if not party board will be always not realiable because they will reject off meta class
@ it’s just stupid. Its about the player not the class imo. You can get all Xbow dag GS dag “meta” classes if they don’t know mech you will still get wiped, half of these idiots can’t even do a simple rat mech. Just gotta wait for the right team. I’ve managed to find both random parties to clear t14 kertaki and t13 voidwaste tho.
I'm not defending anyone but some tooltips are written in a strange way, probably due to poor translation, some things you have to check yourself but I've seen worse tooltips in some games.Edit: I watched the whole video and thought he made a few mistakes but he literally made 1 and repeated it and that's why there's this drama?😂
its no drama. i enjoy his content. I was given this video to look over and found some interesting things, so i figured i try myself in making reacts type of content and see how people like it
You are the King of Spear/Dagger FRESHY
Hey Freshy, this is out of the topic. I'm a silent follower of your content. I've been browsing your builds in questlog, I'd like to know on what your suggestion is in transitioning to PVP, I'd like to focus more in small scale PVP, I need your suggestion on what build should I go to; should I start collecting Melee/Range Eva build or just go directly and do your Balance/Hit build which is Range/Magic Eva?
if ur focus is small scale and arena ur best going for melee evasion and around 900-1000 hit chance if possible
@@FRESHY_GG thanks for replying, your Melee/Range build is still viable right? Or should I go 70 dex (with rex dagger and heroic spear) in reference to Whelp's build (melee/range) but it has only 600+ hit
@@SeanJohnDensing im playing 70 DEX one. ill go melee evasion with T2 gear in future
@@FRESHY_GG Okay, what do you think of Whelp's Melee/Eva build with 70 DEX but it only has 600+ hit?
@@SeanJohnDensing ill be transitioning to melee evasion with T2 gear in the future. right now I wouldn't go with melee evasion in T1 as u cant really stack that much without losing other stats
Basically for PvE:
Brutal Fury = single target dps
Explosive Fury = aoe dps
And for PvP:
Brutal Fury = assassin style, lots of multihits but get hard countered by tanks and damage reduction stat. (much like xbow/dagger)
Explosive Fury = bruiser style, aoe potential and less countered by damage reduction since it has less hits and higher damage per hit.
Wdyt?
spot on
Can u explain all Spear by your own nearly all videos wrong 😂 burst and fire build please
it doesnt work
What doesnt work
man if u want to make this type of video stop shit talking. Point mistakes but dont shit talk coz its hard to watch.
how is it shit talking. he made mistakes, i showed how its supposed to work. im just stating my own opinions and reacting to it
Bro if u think this is talking shit u have a very very soft heart LMAO not 1 second of this video was he talking shit