Thank you very much. I really like the way you talk and explain issues related to editing and processing stereo video. Until recently, I have been shooting VR 180 3D video using the Insta 360 EVO camera. Premiere Pro does a good job with this format and allows you to get a video that meets my abilities and desire, immediately suitable for distribution on UA-cam and DeoVR. Recently I bought a QooCam EGO camera and started trying to shoot flat video in SBS 3D format. And I immediately ran into the fact that my "favorite" video editor Premiere Pro could not cope with editing such a video. After a series of searches, I settled on Vegas Pro, in which the functions of processing such a video are present. Of course, I want to spend less energy on technical tasks and pay more attention to the creative issues of creating video content. But otherwise, the interface and ways of working in these editors are very different, which significantly complicates and slows down the process. And since I continue to shoot in different formats, I have to use two very different video editors. Your video explains the principles of video editing and how you can use ffmpeg to split and merge video streams. Thank you. In addition, I want to say that the issue of stereo video stabilization seems to me very important and relevant. The built-in stabilization of the EVO & EGO cameras partially solves the problem, but by experience I came to the conclusion that stationary shooting is preferable or the use of an external stabilizer in addition to the in-camera one is mandatory.
Thank you for this comment! I have followed this video with great interest. But I also will be working with a couple of video camera systems which I have just bought-- the QooCam EGO, and the early GoPro camera system with dual Hero 2 cameras, which you can buy cheaply these days. I've done only a little video editing, but I understood all of the concepts outlined here. I used StereoPhotoMaker for still photos a dozen years ago, so I understand parallax and alignment, and editing in anaglyph. That said, I can't afford several cloud subscriptions for several editors, because I will be only an occasional user. This presentation was so complete and easy to understand, that I hope I'll be able to navigate Vegas in a similar way. If not, I may adopt Adobe Premiere Pro for all projects not involving the QooCam.
Thanks that you put your time in this video. Sorry, but this is very time consuming and complicated, I have been using Vegas pro for over 7 years to edit my stereoscopic contents (videos and Steels) and burning them on Blu Ray to watch on 3D TV. Excellent results with no headache.
This is amazing! Very detailed. Thank you. I wonder if you could help, I see a Mac next to you but I believe I see a windows environment on your desktop, so the command line you are using is it for Mac or Windows? I use a Mac. If this is an ignorant question know that I do not know anything about command lines, I am an editor using DaVinci Resolve trying to export my videos into L & R. Could you help please?
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This is gold! Thank you! I 3D printed a case for my HERO 5 Sessions and shooted a ton of 3D footage in Morocco, but realised that gopro's app can't correct if the videos are out of sync. I was sure that it's possible to do it with Premiere but didn't expect to find a tutorial this good! :) I'm exporting my first trial right now. But I merged the two sides in Premiere. I'll see in a few minutes how it turns out... :)
I'm working on something very similar. Using two consumer cameras (GoPro 11 Mini) and custom software and camera mount that I've built, I'm getting very good results. And, the software does all the work for you. If you're interested in testing the software, please let me know. It runs on windows only currently but thinking about porting to MAC.
@Berkei Szilárd, How did you go? How did it turn out?
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@@indyglass Sounds great! I'm interested for sure! :)
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@@ANAVision It works, but didn't have too much time to mess with it. I should improve the positioning and cropping, because there are black bars on the first export. If I'll have a good one I'll post is on my channel. :)
Hello I apologize, it’s a machine translation 🙂 FFMPEG works great, but I have a question. FFMPEG doesn’t use HW acceleration, HandBrake does. Is there a way for FFMPEG to also use HW acceleration? I don’t need to say how slow it is without it.
I've not tried it myself, but I believe that hardware acceleration is supported but depends on your drivers and hardware of course. (example I found: "ffmpeg -c:v h264_cuvid -i input output")
Thank you for your great film! I recently need to stablize my 3d sbs films. I notice that, before stablization, you cut your sbs film into 2 films, and make them "nested sequence" and render them red and blue colors for each eye view. question1: is it possible to make the same "nested sequence" using vegas pro? questions: if i just want to stablize my film, using Premiere Pro , can i skip the step of rendering red and blue eye view?
Great vid, but noob question here... how do you tell youtube to play a 3d sbs video in a way that can be viewed by either a pair of passive or active 3D glasses? Or will it only play on a genuine 3d tv? Thanks for any help.
Thank you so much for doing this. This amazing work. I have a quick question for you, is it possible to export this in Anaglyph instead of SBS with the same FFMPEG command and will it show up on UA-cam as Anaglyph?
Hi Andreas What a great detailed video good job Would you be so kind and explain how to recalculate the alignment from Stereo photo maker to davinci resolve? I cant get that accurate result as i doing it manually. I have two goPro cameras footage to work with so they always slightly off. Much appreciated
Can the sbs video just be cropped to export the left and right sides using video editing software rather the ffmpeg? Or does that method cause problems that would make the left and right side not usable if done that way?
should be no problem to crop and export, as long as the SBS video is full width SBS. If it is half width then your exported videos will also be half width.
How to stabilize two videos that were record on two the same iPhones? At the same time, each iPhone has its own image stabilization by default. But when I combine them in anaglyph mode, it is clear that their stabilization works differently, that is, the videos do not match. The video does not shake, but the smooth movement on two identical iPhones does not match. Videos float relative to each other. Is there any way to align this in Vegas? Align stabilization so that it is synchronous? (I'm using Vegas, tried internal stabilization in Vegas and ProDAD Mercalli plugin - doesn't help)
Question - did you have the two iPhones rigged together, or were they held independently? If the former, then you may get good results by turning off iPhone stabilisation, and stabilising in Vegas using method I describe in my video. The reason I say this is because stabilisation would then be applied equally across both left and right eyes. But if it is the latter then the much bigger issue will not be stabilisation, but synchronisation. That would be quite a challenging task, not one I have attempted. If I were to attempt this though I would use automatic motion tracking in Vegas on both left and right eye videos and then match them. Would love to hear if anyone else has other ideas on how to approach such a case.
@@ANAVision Thnx ) Yes ) two iPhones rigged together, but anyway, stabilization works differently for them, each of them independently decides how to stabilize their angle, this results in swing relative to each other. There was an idea to make keyframes and manually change the position of one of the videos almost every second, but this is a long time. I would like to find an automated version. The iPhone does not have an option to turn off stabilization. Most likely I will have to use third-party camera applications.
I'll see how time goes. Have you considered using a NAS or media server for watching your content on 3D TV. That is probably how I would approach this today.
@@ANAVision Thank you, I like the physical media stuff but a NAS or media server might be easier when I'm going to "testplay" my own movies before I print them on expensive Blu-ray discs.
great video u have helped me soo much now people can watch my short flm in 3D great work man,u are supposed to be veryfied on yt ur so gud btw thanks again
at 26:13, you mention that you have a way of using StereoPhotoMaker's auto alignment feature to easily align the L/R footage in Premiere. Have you written about that anywhere? Manually aligning is just not really a great option, especially when needing to batch quite a few clips.
Do you know how to extract the right channel from a Sony HDR-TD10 camcorder video file? It's an MTS file, but ffmpeg can only see the left video channel.
Great content, thanks for sharing! Impressive final product result. I wonder if you could make a video about how to create wigglegram using the fuji w3, even though for this you would need 3 or 4 photos, and the fuji makes only 2. I read an article online of someone who was able to make a wigglegram using the w3 and the result was quite impressive! Wigglegram is trendy nowadays and I'm sure there are w3 users or future w3 buyers who would be interested in the subject. Thanks and best regards
For the EGO files it works very good, great !! An nice Premiere editing info, i am going to try this in Davinci resolve 18.5, when i have the Pro version. This might be about the same.😅 Now I also have some older s3D footage in AVI from a Panasonic Z10000: i tried tot use the same cmd-string, only change the source *.MP4 in *.AVI. (For %f in (*.AVI) do ffmpeg -i "%f" -vf "crop=w=iw/2:h=ih:x=0:y=0" "%~nf_LK.mp4" -vf "crop=w=iw/2:h=ih:x=iw/2:y=0" "%~nf_RE.mp4") The splitting did work out only it turned out to be a wrong codec for playing back the left or right files. Can this work ? thanks!!😃
@MrToondeWit, thanks for your feedback. How are you finding the Z10000 camera? Unfortunately I don't have one of these, so can't experiment for you regarding the ffmpeg command, but I suspect that you will need to use a different way to split the file as it uses the MPEG-4 MVC 3D format. For this I suspect you will need a command something like: ffmpeg -i input_file -map 0:0 -c copy left.mp4 -map 0:1 -c copy right.mp4 (you may need to handle some other metadata information also). Let me know how you go.
Thank you very much. I really like the way you talk and explain issues related to editing and processing stereo video.
Until recently, I have been shooting VR 180 3D video using the Insta 360 EVO camera. Premiere Pro does a good job with this format and allows you to get a video that meets my abilities and desire, immediately suitable for distribution on UA-cam and DeoVR.
Recently I bought a QooCam EGO camera and started trying to shoot flat video in SBS 3D format.
And I immediately ran into the fact that my "favorite" video editor Premiere Pro could not cope with editing such a video.
After a series of searches, I settled on Vegas Pro, in which the functions of processing such a video are present.
Of course, I want to spend less energy on technical tasks and pay more attention to the creative issues of creating video content.
But otherwise, the interface and ways of working in these editors are very different, which significantly complicates and slows down the process. And since I continue to shoot in different formats, I have to use two very different video editors.
Your video explains the principles of video editing and how you can use ffmpeg to split and merge video streams. Thank you.
In addition, I want to say that the issue of stereo video stabilization seems to me very important and relevant. The built-in stabilization of the EVO & EGO cameras partially solves the problem, but by experience I came to the conclusion that stationary shooting is preferable or the use of an external stabilizer in addition to the in-camera one is mandatory.
Thank you for this comment! I have followed this video with great interest. But I also will be working with a couple of video camera systems which I have just bought-- the QooCam EGO, and the early GoPro camera system with dual Hero 2 cameras, which you can buy cheaply these days.
I've done only a little video editing, but I understood all of the concepts outlined here. I used StereoPhotoMaker for still photos a dozen years ago, so I understand parallax and alignment, and editing in anaglyph. That said, I can't afford several cloud subscriptions for several editors, because I will be only an occasional user.
This presentation was so complete and easy to understand, that I hope I'll be able to navigate Vegas in a similar way. If not, I may adopt Adobe Premiere Pro for all projects not involving the QooCam.
Wow, what a professional and organized presentation. Outstanding!
Thanks so much for your feedback :) Much appreciated!
Thanks that you put your time in this video. Sorry, but this is very time consuming and complicated, I have been using Vegas pro for over 7 years to edit my stereoscopic contents (videos and Steels) and burning them on Blu Ray to watch on 3D TV. Excellent results with no headache.
Thanks for sharing. I too have used Vegas pro and found it does a good job.
This is amazing! Very detailed. Thank you. I wonder if you could help, I see a Mac next to you but I believe I see a windows environment on your desktop, so the command line you are using is it for Mac or Windows? I use a Mac. If this is an ignorant question know that I do not know anything about command lines, I am an editor using DaVinci Resolve trying to export my videos into L & R. Could you help please?
This is gold!
Thank you! I 3D printed a case for my HERO 5 Sessions and shooted a ton of 3D footage in Morocco, but realised that gopro's app can't correct if the videos are out of sync.
I was sure that it's possible to do it with Premiere but didn't expect to find a tutorial this good! :)
I'm exporting my first trial right now. But I merged the two sides in Premiere. I'll see in a few minutes how it turns out... :)
I'm working on something very similar. Using two consumer cameras (GoPro 11 Mini) and custom software and camera mount that I've built, I'm getting very good results. And, the software does all the work for you. If you're interested in testing the software, please let me know. It runs on windows only currently but thinking about porting to MAC.
@Chris Fulton, definitely would be interested in giving the software a go.
@Berkei Szilárd, How did you go? How did it turn out?
@@indyglass Sounds great! I'm interested for sure! :)
@@ANAVision It works, but didn't have too much time to mess with it. I should improve the positioning and cropping, because there are black bars on the first export. If I'll have a good one I'll post is on my channel. :)
Hello
I apologize, it’s a machine translation 🙂
FFMPEG works great, but I have a question. FFMPEG doesn’t use HW acceleration, HandBrake does. Is there a way for FFMPEG to also use HW acceleration? I don’t need to say how slow it is without it.
I've not tried it myself, but I believe that hardware acceleration is supported but depends on your drivers and hardware of course. (example I found: "ffmpeg -c:v h264_cuvid -i input output")
Thank you for your great film! I recently need to stablize my 3d sbs films. I notice that, before stablization, you cut your sbs film into 2 films, and make them "nested sequence" and render them red and blue colors for each eye view.
question1: is it possible to make the same "nested sequence" using vegas pro?
questions: if i just want to stablize my film, using Premiere Pro , can i skip the step of rendering red and blue eye view?
Great vid, but noob question here... how do you tell youtube to play a 3d sbs video in a way that can be viewed by either a pair of passive or active 3D glasses? Or will it only play on a genuine 3d tv? Thanks for any help.
Thank you so much for doing this. This amazing work. I have a quick question for you, is it possible to export this in Anaglyph instead of SBS with the same FFMPEG command and will it show up on UA-cam as Anaglyph?
Hi Andreas What a great detailed video good job
Would you be so kind and explain how to recalculate the alignment from Stereo photo maker to davinci resolve?
I cant get that accurate result as i doing it manually.
I have two goPro cameras footage to work with so they always slightly off.
Much appreciated
Can the sbs video just be cropped to export the left and right sides using video editing software rather the ffmpeg? Or does that method cause problems that would make the left and right side not usable if done that way?
should be no problem to crop and export, as long as the SBS video is full width SBS. If it is half width then your exported videos will also be half width.
How to stabilize two videos that were record on two the same iPhones? At the same time, each iPhone has its own image stabilization by default. But when I combine them in anaglyph mode, it is clear that their stabilization works differently, that is, the videos do not match. The video does not shake, but the smooth movement on two identical iPhones does not match. Videos float relative to each other. Is there any way to align this in Vegas? Align stabilization so that it is synchronous? (I'm using Vegas, tried internal stabilization in Vegas and ProDAD Mercalli plugin - doesn't help)
Question - did you have the two iPhones rigged together, or were they held independently? If the former, then you may get good results by turning off iPhone stabilisation, and stabilising in Vegas using method I describe in my video. The reason I say this is because stabilisation would then be applied equally across both left and right eyes. But if it is the latter then the much bigger issue will not be stabilisation, but synchronisation. That would be quite a challenging task, not one I have attempted. If I were to attempt this though I would use automatic motion tracking in Vegas on both left and right eye videos and then match them. Would love to hear if anyone else has other ideas on how to approach such a case.
@@ANAVision Thnx ) Yes ) two iPhones rigged together, but anyway, stabilization works differently for them, each of them independently decides how to stabilize their angle, this results in swing relative to each other. There was an idea to make keyframes and manually change the position of one of the videos almost every second, but this is a long time. I would like to find an automated version. The iPhone does not have an option to turn off stabilization. Most likely I will have to use third-party camera applications.
Awsome video!!! Can you please do a video on how to export video to 3D blu-ray and/or how to watch your content on your 3D TV?
I'll see how time goes. Have you considered using a NAS or media server for watching your content on 3D TV. That is probably how I would approach this today.
@@ANAVision Thank you, I like the physical media stuff but a NAS or media server might be easier when I'm going to "testplay" my own movies before I print them on expensive Blu-ray discs.
@@linuskarlsson9449 yes, I get it, I understand the appeal of preserving precious creations on physical discs.
Thank you for sharing, Maestro!
Thanks for your feedback.
I’m here because I’m buying the QooCam EGO and hoping to learn a few basics, thanks for the video
I decided to get one to review because of your comment. Look out for my video on it, I hope to release it soon.
Very nice tutorial. I made video with my two GoPros and I was strugglin' how to make it playable in Oculus. I will try by your instructions.
Thanks for your feedback. Have you had success to make your video playable in Oculus?
great video u have helped me soo much now people can watch my short flm in 3D great work man,u are supposed to be veryfied
on yt ur so gud btw thanks again
Glad I could help
@@ANAVision u are a legend
at 26:13, you mention that you have a way of using StereoPhotoMaker's auto alignment feature to easily align the L/R footage in Premiere.
Have you written about that anywhere? Manually aligning is just not really a great option, especially when needing to batch quite a few clips.
How do you edit regular Stereoscopic in VR180? I can't seem to split the regular stereoscopic video properly to each eye. I keep getting doubles.
Do you know how to extract the right channel from a Sony HDR-TD10 camcorder video file? It's an MTS file, but ffmpeg can only see the left video channel.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Great content, thanks for sharing! Impressive final product result. I wonder if you could make a video about how to create wigglegram using the fuji w3, even though for this you would need 3 or 4 photos, and the fuji makes only 2. I read an article online of someone who was able to make a wigglegram using the w3 and the result was quite impressive! Wigglegram is trendy nowadays and I'm sure there are w3 users or future w3 buyers who would be interested in the subject. Thanks and best regards
Have you seen the wigglegrams you can make here: convert.leiapix.com/#/
@@ANAVision wow that's amazing! I've just tried it and it works really well even with just one photo. Thank you for sharing!
Yeah, it's quite cool isn't it :)
Or You can try Ranway AI image interpolation for transition from L to R image.
please can you provide a link to the $400 PP plugin referred to in the video
Found it!
@@terencequinn7203 I assume you were after this: inv3.com/quicks3dx/
Dude, You said this was easy
haha... maybe I've taken too much liberty in saying that. But try it, it's not as hard as it may seem :)
For the EGO files it works very good, great !! An nice Premiere editing info, i am going to try this in Davinci resolve 18.5, when i have the Pro version. This might be about the same.😅
Now I also have some older s3D footage in AVI from a Panasonic Z10000:
i tried tot use the same cmd-string, only change the source *.MP4 in *.AVI. (For %f in (*.AVI) do ffmpeg -i "%f" -vf "crop=w=iw/2:h=ih:x=0:y=0" "%~nf_LK.mp4" -vf "crop=w=iw/2:h=ih:x=iw/2:y=0" "%~nf_RE.mp4") The splitting did work out only it turned out to be a wrong codec for playing back the left or right files. Can this work ? thanks!!😃
@MrToondeWit, thanks for your feedback. How are you finding the Z10000 camera? Unfortunately I don't have one of these, so can't experiment for you regarding the ffmpeg command, but I suspect that you will need to use a different way to split the file as it uses the MPEG-4 MVC 3D format. For this I suspect you will need a command something like: ffmpeg -i input_file -map 0:0 -c copy left.mp4 -map 0:1 -c copy right.mp4 (you may need to handle some other metadata information also). Let me know how you go.