I used SUF last year and been training for an ultra race the past 7 weeks. The most comprehensive, effective Platform I know. I especially like the challenging Yoga sessions. Not too long, not too short.
A great training program made even better!! Incorporating off the bike work (strength and yoga) into my cycling plan has made an enormous difference for me over the last few years.
Wahoo X (SYSTM and RGT) is the best thing out there- focussed training on SYSTM and a far better than (cartoon)Zwift sim land on RGT where you can make any GPX file say from Strava into a "MAGIC ROAD" in minutes and it will replicate the bends and gradients and give you some scenery to ride along.... Also I discovered today you can export any workout from SYSTM over to RGT and do it on one of their 13 courses instead of just looking at "interval blockwork" on screen....
It looks like once they launch outdoor workouts they'll support Garmin, but to see 4DP power profiles (and potentially some other features) you'll likely need a Wahoo head unit. (source: DCRainmaker)
Looks good and well-timed too. I've been working through the other platforms out there to see what may offer the best Triathlon training plan (with a focus on cycling) and this might be just the ticket. Signed up for the trial and hopping on the trainer tonight.🤞
@@myateem I'm not sure. I don't think it's possible (yet), but I've also never needed to create one because they have everything covered and The Sufferfest workouts are just plain awesome with their storylines and tongue-in-cheek humour.
@@michass thanks for your reply. Actually I asked because my coach sometimes sets a specific intervals that I should do. Most of them can be structured on zwift, but for some of them it's not possible. I would love to have a distance based interval for example. I can't do that on zwift
i would like to test it out more thoroughly before i commit to a new software. can you please provide a voucher code to have at least a 4-6 week free trial period?
I have used the sufferfest before, and I have liked it but have always come back to Zwift. I really think that they have stepped it up here and its looking good, especially for the price. Definitely going to look into this ! 🚴♂️🙂👍
It’s in the title: what do you expect? For other items I understand your critique, few weeks back there was a pump adverted in a segment about training, for this item I know what to expect.
Just waiting to see if Wahoo Systm will develop a way to have my Strava/Garmin calendar to sync TO my Wahoo calendar to give me a total Planned and Actual workout time and TSS for each week. TrainerRoad does this.
i need a some help please..i just did the full fitness test..I felt like cadence was way high (125)..i had kickr locked..is there a setting im missing? what i mean is that is is very easy to spin out..if you get my meaning..thank you very much.
@@blainj2 yes you can get virtual (estimated) power readings as long as you have a speedometer on your rear wheel. If you can see estimated power on Zwift you'll be able to see it in SYSTM.
Hi I am looking for a running / cycling mixed plan as I am a non swimmer. I cannot find anything relevant. Am I just not looking in the right place??? Any help would be good, even if I need to shuffle rides about to drop in runs I have done???
Would it be an alternative to zwift? For someone who just starting out on a smart trainer ! Or which do you favour for lronman training plans ?! Managed by a coach ?!
Hey. Nice video. Interesting. Do you have to pay for sufferfest as well as systm? Can you do workouts from their library of your choice or do you have to follow one of their plans? Do you happen to know approximately how many workouts on that list compkared to say trainerroad?
Tempted by this. Currently using trainer road and Zwift and training peaks snd getting in a muddle of too much information. I swim and run too so really tempted to put it all together ahem you know what I mean secret triathlete haha. My head unit is an Garmin though. Will this be a problem?
I stop watching your videos and come across this bit of insight, then realised why I stopped. Just give me stuff that is interesting & insightful without all the shlapstick humour
TR's adaptive training has only been available for a couple of months and is still in development. I don't think that is enough time to judge whether it is more effective than the usual method of re-testing periodically and adjusting your plans. TR does not have the off the bike fitness exercise guidance (gym, yoga, mental fitness, etc) that Wahoo does. Finally, TR does not incorporate outdoor bike riding. As someone who does not race and has good weather almost year round, i'm most interested in who has the best general fitness plans. And, I don't want to be stuck indoors.
@@msnzuigt How could you possibly know this? Confirmation bias maybe? This platform has only been announced just today. The TR AT is still in development. How could you possibly have compared them?
Very disappointed in the update as promises were made but not met. The calendar is still a Trainwreck. Not being able to bulk move workouts forward if a workout is missed for various reasons is a massive oversight. I can't believe it took them 2 years to "update" the app and all they really did was change the color scheme, rebrand to attract new subscribers and add some new training workouts. Obviously they're more concerned about getting new subscribers rather than keeping current subscribers.
Yes. 1. Allow me to click and drag/edit my calendar. Bulk move items. 2. Allow syncing TO and FROM Garmin or Strava calendars to have a total sum of weekly TSS/IF and hours.minutes. 3. Apple TV connectivity
I hope this is not the beginning of stupid walled gardens like in other tech. The good thing about fitness tech up to now is that everything works together. Zwift, Garmin, Training Peaks, Whoop, all nicely integrated. If Wahoo wants to play Apple and this only works with their own trainers, they can keep it.
There are no plans for Wahoo to limit compatibility with 3rd parties. SYSTM will work with any other trainer brand, and Wahoo trainers will work with all other training apps.
If it wasn't titled Wahoo I would think it was Trainer Road due to the colour scheme. Doesn't bring anything new but has cherry picked from other platforms, just late to the market. Sorry 🤷
Wow !! Invested $ 4,000 in dogecoin and I'm waiting for the raise to sell but seeing this, I also want to make weekly profit from my dogecoin, but how do I go about it?
@@msnzuigt might be true...but the damage has been done to me and other already. When independent athletes/trainers say "it no longer sucks" will give it a look again.
Looks Good, But why Use Conor ? He trys to be funny but isn't, and he might have been a average race cyclist but he's useless as a presenter, time to use the others for serious content
Does Wahoo SYSTM sound like something you'll be using?
How.it is different from the sufferfest?
I've been a Sufferlandrian since the beginning. Great way to kick your ass into your best self both physically and mentally.
I’m down! Excited to start training. I think this will be perfect for someone like me
Nah, i like the community and multiplayer elements in Zwift too much to make the jump :>
Another big advert
I used SUF last year and been training for an ultra race the past 7 weeks. The most comprehensive, effective Platform I know. I especially like the challenging Yoga sessions. Not too long, not too short.
I've just started using it after several years of zwifting, I like what I've seen so far.
A great training program made even better!! Incorporating off the bike work (strength and yoga) into my cycling plan has made an enormous difference for me over the last few years.
"come and join me in my barn" - sounds like the opening dialogue for a retro 70s thriller/horror movie
How good is Connor's hair looking in this video?!?! Looking for some Alpecin sponsorship?
Goofy
@@LSD04 He's definitely up there with Olly and Matt Stephens lockdown locks!
My seven-year-old just signed up for Wahoo's new SPLLNG platform to help him in school
It's not cool to spell correctly anymore
@@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 Incorrectly spelling product names or company names is so tired and unoriginal.
I'd like to buy a vowel... "e". Sorry, there is no "e" in "SYSTM". :-(
What is this “wohoo” that Connor keeps talking about???
The video mentions it has an ad, however I haven't heard a word about the Alpecin shampoo Conner uses. It must be Alpecin right? Right?!
Wahoo X (SYSTM and RGT) is the best thing out there- focussed training on SYSTM and a far better than (cartoon)Zwift sim land on RGT where you can make any GPX file say from Strava into a "MAGIC ROAD" in minutes and it will replicate the bends and gradients and give you some scenery to ride along.... Also I discovered today you can export any workout from SYSTM over to RGT and do it on one of their 13 courses instead of just looking at "interval blockwork" on screen....
Really super cool ... GCN and Wahoo rock!!!!
Does it support Garmin head units?
It looks like once they launch outdoor workouts they'll support Garmin, but to see 4DP power profiles (and potentially some other features) you'll likely need a Wahoo head unit. (source: DCRainmaker)
@@LomTong oh no! Really? So is a Garmin edge for example not going to link up indoors at all really then?
Looks great tbh
Looks good and well-timed too. I've been working through the other platforms out there to see what may offer the best Triathlon training plan (with a focus on cycling) and this might be just the ticket. Signed up for the trial and hopping on the trainer tonight.🤞
Thanks for video. I have 2 questions:
1) can I design my own customized workout?
2) Will it work with Tacx smart trainers?
Works great with my Tacx Flux S.
@@michass that"s great! Thanks for your reply. Can I ask you if you can create a custom workout?
@@myateem I'm not sure. I don't think it's possible (yet), but I've also never needed to create one because they have everything covered and The Sufferfest workouts are just plain awesome with their storylines and tongue-in-cheek humour.
@@michass thanks for your reply. Actually I asked because my coach sometimes sets a specific intervals that I should do. Most of them can be structured on zwift, but for some of them it's not possible. I would love to have a distance based interval for example. I can't do that on zwift
love this app ♥
i would like to test it out more thoroughly before i commit to a new software. can you please provide a voucher code to have at least a 4-6 week free trial period?
I have used the sufferfest before, and I have liked it but have always come back to Zwift. I really think that they have stepped it up here and its looking good, especially for the price. Definitely going to look into this ! 🚴♂️🙂👍
2 week trial is just too short to test. So i will never get into it. Is there a chance for a 3-4 week free trial to really see the effect?
Is there not a way you can change that banner in the top corner to:
"Is, in its entirety, an advert"?
It’s in the title: what do you expect? For other items I understand your critique, few weeks back there was a pump adverted in a segment about training, for this item I know what to expect.
Theres only one thing to know: it’s Sufferfest, they just changed the name
Wahoo has made it more "serious" but being quirky and full of dad jokes was a great appeal to use TheSufferfest
@@henriquecassus expecting to see a rebranding to THESUFFRFST
@@beermonster1234 That would have been epic 😂
As an early beta tester, I can confidently say that this is much more than a name change.
Read DC Rainmaker’s review - this is a lot more than a rebrand.
This looks like Trainpeaks, Sufferfest, Rouvy/RGT/Bkool, and TrainerRoad all had a baby.
Loving the new look!!! And sooooo much more content, the Pro Rides look pretty awesome!
Does it have training for absolute beginners
Just waiting to see if Wahoo Systm will develop a way to have my Strava/Garmin calendar to sync TO my Wahoo calendar to give me a total Planned and Actual workout time and TSS for each week. TrainerRoad does this.
I did a one hour workout today but the resistance of the Kickr Core did not change whatsoever with grade. What’s wrong?
Anyone know if there will be an Apple TV option?
i need a some help please..i just did the full fitness test..I felt like cadence was way high (125)..i had kickr locked..is there a setting im missing? what i mean is that is is very easy to spin out..if you get my meaning..thank you very much.
Will it only be compatible with Wahoo trainers, or will you be able to use it with another brand such as Tacx?
Works with any smart trainer.
What about non smart trainers. Zwift can estimate my power on elite wheel on trainer. I'm interested in changing things up though
@@blainj2 yes you can get virtual (estimated) power readings as long as you have a speedometer on your rear wheel. If you can see estimated power on Zwift you'll be able to see it in SYSTM.
Hi I am looking for a running / cycling mixed plan as I am a non swimmer. I cannot find anything relevant. Am I just not looking in the right place??? Any help would be good, even if I need to shuffle rides about to drop in runs I have done???
So is this a more interactive competitor to Training Peaks?
I don't know what this is but I'm just wondering what happened to Yahoo Serious.
Would it be an alternative to zwift? For someone who just starting out on a smart trainer ! Or which do you favour for lronman training plans ?! Managed by a coach ?!
Love this channel ❤ 💕 🙌
Hey. Nice video. Interesting. Do you have to pay for sufferfest as well as systm? Can you do workouts from their library of your choice or do you have to follow one of their plans? Do you happen to know approximately how many workouts on that list compkared to say trainerroad?
Sufferfest comes with it.
Any idea if this new program will sync workouts to Garman devices as well and not just wahoo?
According to David McQuillen, sync is coming as Conner said it will work with any head unit.
@@jamesmckenzie3532 I am a garmin fan boy but would be willing to go across to the dark side if compatible
Is this device/app for all the world or US only? Is impossible to understand what these guys are talking.
So look out for a Garmin, trainer road,GCN+ collaboration 😉
Tempted by this. Currently using trainer road and Zwift and training peaks snd getting in a muddle of too much information. I swim and run too so really tempted to put it all together ahem you know what I mean secret triathlete haha. My head unit is an Garmin though. Will this be a problem?
I stop watching your videos and come across this bit of insight, then realised why I stopped. Just give me stuff that is interesting & insightful without all the shlapstick humour
Any competition is welcome
Someone is going to be needing Oli's Alice band soon.
It looks good but I think I'll hold off until the streaming issues are sorted out. According to the DCRainmaker review, it has some issues.
This system is genius.
Nice 📹 👌 👋 📹 👌
Anyone want to take a guess how much an advert like this costs Wahoo?
£5,000-10,000
@@Appetite4Rose I’ll raise that with £20k
50k
Bkool serves me right and ok 👍
Going after the more serious Zwifters, Strava, Training Peaks and Apple Watch folks it seems
Rất hữu ích
Transitioned from sufferlandrian to couchlandrian at 4:05
This was just basically a GCN Commercial for Wahoo...wish it had been advertised as that way in the title.
what is the correct pronunciation of wahoo?!
This vs TR’s Adaptive Training.
What are you thoughts, people?
TR Adaptive 100%. Gives me more insight on progression and TTE.
TR's adaptive training has only been available for a couple of months and is still in development. I don't think that is enough time to judge whether it is more effective than the usual method of re-testing periodically and adjusting your plans. TR does not have the off the bike fitness exercise guidance (gym, yoga, mental fitness, etc) that Wahoo does. Finally, TR does not incorporate outdoor bike riding.
As someone who does not race and has good weather almost year round, i'm most interested in who has the best general fitness plans. And, I don't want to be stuck indoors.
@@msnzuigt How could you possibly know this? Confirmation bias maybe? This platform has only been announced just today. The TR AT is still in development. How could you possibly have compared them?
Still DROPPING the Ollie Banter again, @GCN? 😂😂
wahoo not have faveros full compatibility... dynamics
Very disappointed in the update as promises were made but not met. The calendar is still a Trainwreck. Not being able to bulk move workouts forward if a workout is missed for various reasons is a massive oversight. I can't believe it took them 2 years to "update" the app and all they really did was change the color scheme, rebrand to attract new subscribers and add some new training workouts. Obviously they're more concerned about getting new subscribers rather than keeping current subscribers.
Yes.
1. Allow me to click and drag/edit my calendar. Bulk move items.
2. Allow syncing TO and FROM Garmin or Strava calendars to have a total sum of weekly TSS/IF and hours.minutes.
3. Apple TV connectivity
I hope this is not the beginning of stupid walled gardens like in other tech. The good thing about fitness tech up to now is that everything works together. Zwift, Garmin, Training Peaks, Whoop, all nicely integrated. If Wahoo wants to play Apple and this only works with their own trainers, they can keep it.
Probably is though... think how the Wahoo fan only works with their own products (IIRC)
@@msnzuigt In this case, they should go the way of the dodo. There is no point in not supporting things that use open protocols.
There are no plans for Wahoo to limit compatibility with 3rd parties. SYSTM will work with any other trainer brand, and Wahoo trainers will work with all other training apps.
@@maccassin2424 Very happy to hear that. It just does not male sense to have 12 different HR straps.
Couple more years hopefully and we all can switch from Garmin ecosystem to Wahoo.
Compatible with Chrome OS?
Still waiting for a decent power meter from them
Tickr, Systm, Elemnt... what have these ppl got against vowels?
They're vowls.
Trademark and other legal stuff. Microsoft went through hell getting "Windows" trademarked. They had to add the number 95 to it.
Fancy one of these for winter - anyone else?
So it’s basically Suffferefest pro
If it wasn't titled Wahoo I would think it was Trainer Road due to the colour scheme. Doesn't bring anything new but has cherry picked from other platforms, just late to the market. Sorry 🤷
It's sufferfest just a new name
12th comment!!!
It sounds like something I've been using and enjoying, but no longer functions with an iPhone, so its worthless!
So tired of the bad spelling for products. SYSTM. ELMNT BHLDN BKND PIXLR DIGG LYFT sigh.
Trading on your own is very risky, I've lost alot trading for my self
Investing in crypto is a more lucrative way of making money
My life totally changed since I started with. $ 17,430 every 11 days
Wow !! Invested $ 4,000 in dogecoin and I'm waiting for the raise to sell but seeing this, I also want to make weekly profit from my dogecoin, but how do I go about it?
Absolutely right , I got 70% of my total portfolio in crypto and I have been making good profits
I wanted to trade crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price
Shouldn’t this be labelled as sponsored content?
This is literally just the old Sufferfest platform but with a wahoo logo slapped over it (and more expensive)…
The price hasn't changed
@@amosburton531 Yes it has. Its increased by a couple of dollars per month.
say wahoo again....
I wish Wahoo wasn't so lazy and published decent user guides. Poor for the price of head units which have such lousy interfaces
wahoo bought over sufferfest?
It's been a while, I guess mid 2019
@@henriquecassus oh i see, didn't know that.
It kind of looks like wahoo simply bought out sufferfest and thats it
That happened over 2 years ago.
Doesn’t beat zwift
It does beat zwift. Doesn’t beat TrainerRoad.
@@dudefella420 TrainerRoad isn't that great either long term either. Tooo much time in the "Gray zone".
@@trepidati0n533 Used to be the case, but with Adaptive Training and (Experimental) Polarized Plans, that changed.
@@msnzuigt might be true...but the damage has been done to me and other already. When independent athletes/trainers say "it no longer sucks" will give it a look again.
@@trepidati0n533 completely agree. I’ve also been down the rabbit hole. For me, sweet spot base and build were a bit too much intensity.
same old…
RIP Sufferfest 😭😭😭
Here come the youtube police to moan about this being an advert.
Are you claiming it isn't?
@@grocerylist it clearly is, it states at the beginning which is why the youtube police don't need to point it out, like they've foiled some plot.
@@dh7314 Good to know, I never notice those small annotations.
just no💩
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Looks Good, But why Use Conor ? He trys to be funny but isn't, and he might have been a average race cyclist but he's useless as a presenter, time to use the others for serious content
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