Flash flooding in Flagstaff keeps hitting same neighborhoods over and over again

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  • @annspires8380
    @annspires8380 3 роки тому +489

    The question to be answered is how did the original developers get permits to build residential housing in a wash?!

    • @lulielawry
      @lulielawry 3 роки тому +44

      easy>>$$$$$$$

    • @Marlene-Ferreira
      @Marlene-Ferreira 3 роки тому +23

      @@lulielawry PROBABLY WITH A BOTTLE OF RUM OR BRANDY AND A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS... WE CALL THE TEA POTS - ONE HAND IN THE FRONT & THE OTHER AT THE BACK (THE BACK ONE GETS THE BRIBES OR PAYOFFS) REALLY SAD ♥️♥️♥️🌟♥️♥️♥️🌟♥️♥️♥️

    • @texasyankee1013
      @texasyankee1013 3 роки тому +16

      You see it all the time in AZ.

    • @kathykaura7219
      @kathykaura7219 3 роки тому +17

      Contractors in Turkey build in washes all the time. 😒

    • @queenmommie8295
      @queenmommie8295 3 роки тому +15

      How many black and native American people were murdered before they pushed them off of this land??? God is telling you get off of the land. APTTMHY HalleluYah May The King 👑👑👑 Reign FOREVER ♾️.

  • @capitanothegreat3994
    @capitanothegreat3994 3 роки тому +110

    Building houses were you're NOT suppose to. To solve that problem that neighborhood needs $$$Tens of Millions Dollars of Federal Funding to make it liveable, The Easiest and Cheapest Solution is to Relocate them and let NATURE claim back the land.

    • @newvilla8115
      @newvilla8115 3 роки тому +7

      I am sorry but they CHOOSE to live away from everybody else and tax payers should NOT pay for their decisions.

    • @capitanothegreat3994
      @capitanothegreat3994 3 роки тому +1

      @@newvilla8115 true

    • @brendaann727
      @brendaann727 3 роки тому +10

      If this area was known to be a flood plain, whoever gave permission to develope this land for housing & those who sold it to these people are at fault, they should be held accountable.

    • @timk.3286
      @timk.3286 3 роки тому +2

      building houses where, not were, you're NOT suppose to. obviously it was compatible at one point. its not like they have been dealing with this issue for a decade. its piss poor infrastructure funding and a lack of urgency by the county and state officials who live comfortably away from these areas.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 3 роки тому

      I agree. They will either have to restructure the entire area to redirect the flood waters away from these guys or relocate their homes.

  • @alanrobinson4318
    @alanrobinson4318 3 роки тому +216

    Whether it's forest fires, rock/dirt slides/slumping, floods, etc. The fact that people build in incompatible places still amazes me. The developers, whose greed knows no bounds, create these issues. Just because that "cute little valley" looks perfect for a housing tract, doesn't mean that , geologically, you should build there. There are SO many more reasons not to build places, that are ignored, or blatantly disregarded, or corruptly circumvented.

    • @NinjaBooKitty
      @NinjaBooKitty 3 роки тому +4

      People keep spawning, they keep needing housing.

    • @alanrobinson4318
      @alanrobinson4318 3 роки тому +13

      @@NinjaBooKitty Rrriiiight ....
      They're building a 23,000 home housing tract in Henderson, NV.. A good portion of it is built on a "reclaimed" section of land that was unlined settling ponds for a chemical plant. Perclorates and God knows what were dumped there for 40 years. There are two pumping stations drawing ground water out, treating it, and pumping it back, before it reaches the lake. The location is prime for that kind of build, but, 3 contractors went bust trying to decontaminate the soil. That housing tract is called "Cadence".
      Would you like to buy a house there, especially if you're raising small children ? Would you trust that the paperwork saying it's safe now will still be valid in 5, or 10, years ? The absolute greed of developers who push for expansion in unsuitable areas is a documented fact.
      So ...... That flippant reply of yours shows you haven't done your homework.

    • @davyjones3371
      @davyjones3371 3 роки тому +2

      Its can be done with the proper infrastructure the foundation required has to be provided first these are known truths your right in your judgment

    • @christopherlee5902
      @christopherlee5902 3 роки тому +5

      I don’t have compassion for the choices ppl have made to live in such areas that become a problem from storms. I mean when ppl want to live where there’s runoffs then it on you. If ppl want to live near the ocean where tropical storms/hurricanes are prime to happen then its on you. If you want to live near a body of water that can be flooded then again its on you. No one is a victim in this video, they chose this path and way of living so it’s their reward of their own choices.

    • @alanrobinson4318
      @alanrobinson4318 3 роки тому +3

      @@christopherlee5902 If you look at most, who go looking for a house, they are ignorant as to the specifics of geological dangers. That fact, coupled with overly aggressive marketing/advertising by greedy deveolpers, who never disclose those facts creates those, and I hate to say it, "victims". The developers usually make bank and run. This kind of thing has been going on for hundreds of years. Think "The Emperors New Clothes". All who buy a home should research the area they are interested in. Yet, how many are bedazzled by that, "Dream Home", and lose sight of the total picture.

  • @larryjoy2446
    @larryjoy2446 3 роки тому +142

    now that's good reporting,kudos to the news crew for staying onsite

    • @MaryOKC
      @MaryOKC 3 роки тому +5

      It’s goes to show how quickly the waters built up to flood. I think the only thing that can be done is for the county to purchase these home or move them.

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards 3 роки тому +1

      They didn't plans on staying. They've been forced to stay because that flash flood was coming.
      That was just good timing.

    • @andrewmedanich2844
      @andrewmedanich2844 2 роки тому

      Right like they legit caught the very thing they were covering.

  • @vgslife9640
    @vgslife9640 3 роки тому +236

    he said they cant fix private property but they sure can repossess your home if you don't pay your taxes. smh fix the problem to help the people.

    • @citycity3660
      @citycity3660 3 роки тому +8

      Excellent journalistic work, such professionals no longer exist. And I wonder why the city doesn't repair the canals. They obviously have to do something! There is no excuse to justify them.

    • @queenmommie8295
      @queenmommie8295 3 роки тому +5

      Get off of the land. God doesn't want you there. He is telling you get off of the lands. APTTMHY

    • @capitanothegreat3994
      @capitanothegreat3994 3 роки тому +9

      $$ Tens of Millions of Dollars need to fix a small Neighborhood built on a Flood Plain. Easiest and Cheapest way is to Relocate them away from Flood Plains and let Mother Nature claim back the Land.

    • @alethia5874
      @alethia5874 3 роки тому +2

      the great american capitalist system. it's all fun and games until your poor or disaster strikes.

    • @sixfigureskibum
      @sixfigureskibum 3 роки тому

      My federal tax lien disapeered after 10 years.

  • @militaryveteran6185
    @militaryveteran6185 3 роки тому +58

    This is what happens when greedy contractors & real estate people build homes in flood paths & sell them to idiots that don't know any better! Don't buy a home in a wash!

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner 3 роки тому +4

      Spruce Wash was at best no more than a creek...I don't think that Spruce Wash ever produced a flood like this in all of recorded Flagstaff history. So it was till the Museum Fire caused by humans clearing out the water shed where the fire later started due to their work. Any home near a mountain, is vulnerable to floods, especially when trees are cleared by a forest fire.

    • @JS-jr4dq
      @JS-jr4dq 3 роки тому +6

      @Google sucks trees slow the flow, their leaves on the ground and other organic matter absorb the water. The flow changed and gained speed, also pickups more sediment as it travels thru the fire ravaged area. So yes, fire can change how water flows and if an area floods.

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner 3 роки тому +2

      @@JS-jr4dq Absolutely correct. I have attempted to put up a PDF link on this but it UA-cam will not allow it. Just google "Hydrology and Trees" and you will find the PDF and numerous other abstracts on how Trees prevent flooding.

  • @BumbleWolfx
    @BumbleWolfx 3 роки тому +444

    The first thing my dad did when looking at houses was to make sure they weren't in a flood plain.

    • @sants602
      @sants602 3 роки тому +15

      Smart man

    • @kathleensmith7022
      @kathleensmith7022 3 роки тому +46

      My father was a damn engineer with the bureau of reclamation and he also gave me the same advice and we have never bought a home that wasn’t above the flood stage of the 100 year mark. But why oh why did the county board of supervisors allow home building in the flood prone areas? Common sense or lack of sense starts at the top.

    • @Eric-lx8hp
      @Eric-lx8hp 3 роки тому +5

      Don't forget tornado alley

    • @itsthinking
      @itsthinking 3 роки тому +12

      My Fiancees dad did the same thing. I'm willing to admit, I was kinda a dumbass and made fun of him for being so gung ho about it but I now realize he was right.

    • @mrfrogg46able
      @mrfrogg46able 3 роки тому +1

      plane

  • @hilohahoma1547
    @hilohahoma1547 3 роки тому +157

    I'm a Native person so I'll say it like this, no sane people would CONTINUE to elect other people to make decisions for them about sensible protection for times like these in the SO-CALLED "richest country in the world ", without having consequences for those elected when they don't put at least some effort into helping during dangerous events. Just sayin'.

    • @adamwinters4448
      @adamwinters4448 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 3 роки тому +7

      Agreed, this country is just the richest of all the Third World Atrocities created by American greed

    • @EricCanterra
      @EricCanterra 3 роки тому +5

      @@yosquidd242 + Yeah, okay, capitalism is evil, socialism is always the answer. We get it....so does Venezuela.

    • @jonsebastian1366
      @jonsebastian1366 3 роки тому +8

      Don't mind us, we're just fulfilling ancient prophesy and falling victim to our own greed. Sorry if we take you down with us.

    • @MARKIEBANUNCE
      @MARKIEBANUNCE 3 роки тому +1

      @Some guy I know my vote didn't count. But 80 million votes did.

  • @alasdairblackmore2592
    @alasdairblackmore2592 3 роки тому +36

    I paused this @0:01 to say ... man, the ignorance / denial etc is strong in Flagstaff !!!
    What do they imagine the words "Don't build on a floodplain" mean to them ?

  • @lillypod1337
    @lillypod1337 3 роки тому +43

    "We need answers..." LMAO! There is a reason why we don't see any above ground geographic drone footage, we would all clearly see where water once rushed through in the past, and will then probably show up again in the future. This is why it is important to do your research before buying/building a house in a certain location. Don't build/buy in dried up river basins (example in Germany: Ahrweiler)

    • @HashknightGaming
      @HashknightGaming 3 роки тому +2

      I am sure Google earth will have the images you want.

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 3 роки тому

      If youre getting a good deal thats the reason

  • @fatlu1378
    @fatlu1378 3 роки тому +31

    i looked at real estate in Flagstaff, it's a beautiful area...sorry to hear that these people lost out...i went back there last spring, it is way populated , and i think overbuilt

  • @learnerm3120
    @learnerm3120 3 роки тому +19

    That's heart breaking. There has been flooding in many places around the US and the world. It seems to be increasing in both frequency and severity. Have these people considered to moving to a different place? I do not think anyone can win in a war against nature. At some point we just have to concede defeat and move out of nature's way.

  • @mialee7488
    @mialee7488 3 роки тому +24

    It breaks my heart.. these poor people need help ASAP and it’s no way to live. Tragically sad 😔.. prayers 🙏🏼

  • @asdfadfafsdfa
    @asdfadfafsdfa 3 роки тому +13

    People usually fail to take into consideration the location of their home…

  • @garyloger9416
    @garyloger9416 3 роки тому +27

    If this has been happening for years, it's their own fault for staying there.
    Trenches and sea walls. Give the water a path to follow.

    • @lillyess385
      @lillyess385 3 роки тому +8

      Where are they supposed to go exactly? They are probably still paying mortgages on those houses and the houses are worthless. If anything, the State needs to buy them out and de zone the area for residential and commercial structures.

  • @NLD987
    @NLD987 3 роки тому +22

    Why did they build houses inside a riverbed???

  • @uprightape100
    @uprightape100 3 роки тому +25

    Floods are just gravities' way of telling you to move, and gravity is the law.

    • @ashleylala4293
      @ashleylala4293 3 роки тому

      Please research geoengineering. Geoengineering watch is a good resource for information.

    • @ridgecrestwack9746
      @ridgecrestwack9746 3 роки тому +1

      Its da lawwwwww

    • @seikibrian8641
      @seikibrian8641 3 роки тому +1

      "...gravities' way..."
      * *Gravity's* way.

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 3 роки тому +18

    Remember that the fires 🔥 killed the trees and ruined the land so the water 💧 just runs unimpeded

    • @philhammond5908
      @philhammond5908 3 роки тому +2

      Prescribed burns and cleaning waterways mitigate these risks.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 3 роки тому +1

      Good point! That explains why these guys haven't been dealing with this problem for years - only since 2019.

  • @bellebellebelle5485
    @bellebellebelle5485 3 роки тому +7

    Come on Mayor Deasy. The roads don’t belong to private citizens. That federal money should be used to mitigate against flooding. Lead with a heart and at least amend a bill that allows you to help with those funds because these citizens pay taxes and those taxes should be able to help

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 3 роки тому

      You're drunk.

    • @bellebellebelle5485
      @bellebellebelle5485 3 роки тому +1

      @@tun-tunninc.6492 you’re ignorant and way above your head

    • @doghousejim
      @doghousejim 3 роки тому +1

      @ding dong Never trust a mayor who wears skinny jeans

    • @kRomani-gh4ws
      @kRomani-gh4ws 10 місяців тому

      ​@@doghousejimthis ain't supposed to happen in republican state 🎉🎉😂💊💊💊💊💊💊☮️🐘🇺🇸

  • @Opalsdad
    @Opalsdad 3 роки тому +13

    Seriously you need answers, HERE YOU go sweetie “you bought a house in a flood zone” duh 🙄

  • @richarda996
    @richarda996 3 роки тому +12

    That is a natural draw that drains the rainwater, you keep fighting Mother Nature. I always checked out properly in a thunderstorm to see where the water was going.

  • @foedspaghetti3290
    @foedspaghetti3290 3 роки тому +13

    “We need answers”, don’t build on low ground? Really, I am not trying to be unsympathetic but a storm drain seems to be one possibile solution for the time being

  • @doghousejim
    @doghousejim 3 роки тому +50

    Poor planning, Flagstaff grew so much in the last 25 years that nobody ever thought it out properly.

    • @LisaHumble
      @LisaHumble 3 роки тому

      Where on earth is Flagstaff getting the water if it's grown so much?

    • @joelrausch4824
      @joelrausch4824 3 роки тому +1

      I thought that was an older neighborhood.

    • @gregknipe8772
      @gregknipe8772 3 роки тому +6

      check your facts. this flooding is run off from a fairly recent fire. very common. the solution is stabilizing a slope exposed by fire.

    • @iamtheoffenderofall
      @iamtheoffenderofall 3 роки тому +1

      @@LisaHumble Did you not watch the video? It answers your question.

    • @Marlene-Ferreira
      @Marlene-Ferreira 3 роки тому

      UNSCRUPULOUS DEVELOPERS WHO JUST SEE DOLLARS.... THEY DON'T CONSULT THE GROUND LAYOUT GOING BACK 20 YEARS TO SEE WHERE RIVER'S USED TO FLOW BEFORE BUILDING THERE. NATURE TAKES BACK WHAT NATURE HAS LOST.... THE BUYER'S ARE THE ONES THAT SUFFER.....

  • @Reaper81805
    @Reaper81805 3 роки тому +14

    Here in Cali we're dying for storms like this haven't seen rain in over a year

    • @ridgecrestwack9746
      @ridgecrestwack9746 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah man all the natural sources and springs are all drying up over here too, wish we had a little

    • @anchorpoint3631
      @anchorpoint3631 2 роки тому +1

      Who cares about Colonfornia?

    • @mrbillnot
      @mrbillnot 2 роки тому

      @@anchorpoint3631 I can guarantee you that you are accessing the internet right now using something that was mostly designed in California. Do you know where Intel and Apple are located?

  • @Penessence
    @Penessence 3 роки тому +8

    I always look around for any 100 year flood plains. My dad was on one and didn’t realize it till one day. Always know the limits of the 100 year flood footprint

  • @sirthesoulmanprophetofgod5076
    @sirthesoulmanprophetofgod5076 2 роки тому +2

    I lived in Flagstaff from ‘84 to ‘94 & it has CHANGED! Even back then while studying for my Real Estate license I could not believe the thousands of houses/Apts they were planning to be built…now we see the results of this poor planning. RAIN is not the problem bc it is what makes Flagstaff beautiful…greed & poor planning is.

  • @cthunter41
    @cthunter41 3 роки тому +12

    Since 2019? I think I would've packed up and left.

  • @clownchaostime3024
    @clownchaostime3024 3 роки тому +48

    City is going to have to bite the bullet and buy these homes!

    • @cherylemunroe7780
      @cherylemunroe7780 3 роки тому +3

      Why should the city foot the bill for private property?

    • @clownchaostime3024
      @clownchaostime3024 3 роки тому +9

      @@cherylemunroe7780 poor planning by city engineers. Nothing gets approved without permits, signatures, and final plans authorizing the project. We had a house 2 streets from me that was flooding during rainfall because it was built too close to a creek. The city bought the house and leveled it. They were responsible because they issued the permit for the house to be built there. Their engineer signed off on the build and gave the thumbs up...and the city ate the cost of the home.$120,000.00

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 3 роки тому +3

      @@clownchaostime3024 White Flight repercussions

  • @heatherbowlan1961
    @heatherbowlan1961 3 роки тому +6

    Sending my Love And Prayers to All affected by Henri , I feel scared for you all ! Sending my thoughts ,Love and Prayers fr. Canada . This is terrible ! God Bless you All ❤️🙏🇨🇦

  • @randomgayboy9198
    @randomgayboy9198 3 роки тому +3

    This breaks my heart. I wish them blessings. Idk what else to say.

  • @brandogeberbin7563
    @brandogeberbin7563 3 роки тому +14

    why in the hell are they allowed to be so close to a river or stream? Move the housing away from it!
    Flash flooding, a stream or a creek can't handle that!

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 3 роки тому

      Not all tree huggers a cognizant of true nature.

    • @sistermaryfrances4480
      @sistermaryfrances4480 3 роки тому +3

      They built those houses in a wash, it's not a river or creek it's where the water runs down from the Hills when there's excess water that's why you see out in the middle of nowhere in Texas Arizona New Mexico wherever it is dry so when the water does come down from the hills it doesn't wash the freeways away duh! It's been doing that for millions of years, these people don't know any better they move to Arizona and buy a house wherever it's looks nice but when the water comes they start crying how can this be happening here, it's been happening for thousands of years you bought your house in the wrong place!

    • @johnpark888
      @johnpark888 3 роки тому

      @@sistermaryfrances4480 1,000% rejects

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 3 роки тому

      @@sistermaryfrances4480 It didn't start happening until a forest fire in 2019 that created a burn scar on the elevated terrain nearby, which totally reshaped the way rainwater flows down the mountain.

  • @mrbillnot
    @mrbillnot 2 роки тому +1

    I feel for what these people are going through, but it's not the city of Flagstaffs problem when you build in a flood plain and you don't even raise the foundation level of the house.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac 3 роки тому +17

    "The avalanche has already started. It's too late for the pebbles to vote."
    - Kosh

  • @ajett5081
    @ajett5081 3 роки тому +13

    Remeber this axeum of life. Politicians don't solve problems they create them. Dont't ever forget this.

  • @paulross499
    @paulross499 3 роки тому +19

    Flash floods are lethal and devastating.

  • @Summerdaze8
    @Summerdaze8 3 роки тому +6

    Her: “It’s terrifying”
    Men in the background: “Hahahaha!”

  • @jsebastian72
    @jsebastian72 3 роки тому +3

    My heart goes out to them, I hope they get the help they need as soon as possible. That is no way to live, to be scared of rain every year..sad. My youngest son lives in Flagstaff, worries me all the time.

  • @kcleach9312
    @kcleach9312 3 роки тому +9

    people need to do more than just look at the house and community when buying a house! look at the landscape , is the a river or creek around there look around from a distance, is it in a valley because valleys are made usually from floods !! is the land flat on both sides of the creek/river and then the land gets hilly uneven if so its flooded

  • @wandasanders7557
    @wandasanders7557 3 роки тому +28

    I'm feel so sad for the people of Flagstaff, Arizona whose house 🏠 have been flooded. I hope FEMA will call for a State of an emergency.

    • @user-bb5wq6vw5f
      @user-bb5wq6vw5f 3 роки тому +2

      We are having homes burning in Northern California ,I wish your rain would come to N.Calif. 100s of homes.The United States is in a disasters, Hurricane back east.Pray

    • @seanregehr4921
      @seanregehr4921 3 роки тому +1

      When FEMA shows up they are not there to help in any way. But it is surely intended to look that way and that is what they will put forward and insist is happening.

    • @kristiblack1428
      @kristiblack1428 3 роки тому +2

      FEMA has a ridiculously corrupt and horrible track record for helping less than 10% of those that they are allocated billions to help. They are a blatant and International disgrace. How they even still exist and get funded is a Crime Against Humanity! As is Weather Warfare. If the CCP can admit publicly that they can control and/or manipulate the weather at their convenience, why is there a gag order in the "best and Free-est country in the world"? "Cloud seeding with chemicals" is the best we can do here? It's called: Geo-Engineering. It's real. But not really a great policy for any biological lifeforms. Denial is now a new river in Flagstaff, Arizona!

    • @alanmolina9565
      @alanmolina9565 3 роки тому

      @@caseyschryber1255 so what causes those fires ?

    • @sistermaryfrances4480
      @sistermaryfrances4480 3 роки тому

      Y'all know that using FEMA is socialism Republicans don't like socialism only if it benefits them

  • @bigad21
    @bigad21 3 роки тому +1

    Heartbreaking when that gentleman said his house is worth zero. He couldn't give it away even if he wanted to. That's a frightening site.

  • @vanessasylvester6151
    @vanessasylvester6151 3 роки тому +28

    Lord Jesus my heart is so sadden to see this devastation to these people lively hood. Have mercy Lord! I pray God will vindicate everyone impacted by those flood waters. Ridiculous! scenario happening in Arizona in 2021 really.

    • @carmichaelmoritz8662
      @carmichaelmoritz8662 3 роки тому +4

      Maybe its god doing it as form of past sins

    • @vanessasylvester6151
      @vanessasylvester6151 3 роки тому +3

      @@carmichaelmoritz8662 that's why we pray for mercy for we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Amen!

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd 3 роки тому

      @@carmichaelmoritz8662 it's for doing the election recount... 😀

    • @carmichaelmoritz8662
      @carmichaelmoritz8662 3 роки тому

      @@ohgawd 👍😂🤣

    • @carmichaelmoritz8662
      @carmichaelmoritz8662 3 роки тому

      @@vanessasylvester6151 🤣😂

  • @wendywhite2642
    @wendywhite2642 3 роки тому +7

    Wow! So sad and what incredible footage! This should go viral and win an award, everyone should see this.

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 3 роки тому +1

      We know this is nothing new. Happens through time and memorial wherever White Flight settles.

    • @wendywhite2642
      @wendywhite2642 3 роки тому +1

      @@yosquidd242 whatever the f*** that means

  • @janicefoundas9163
    @janicefoundas9163 3 роки тому +15

    The poor man and people suffering thru this!

  • @genecoppedge5972
    @genecoppedge5972 3 роки тому +1

    That’s devastating. If you’ve ever seen a dry wash turn into a raging river in a matter of minutes and the roar it makes, you can understand the heartache when it’s their street thats turning into a river right in front of their homes.

  • @macb.43
    @macb.43 3 роки тому +4

    My heart breaks for these people. Anyone who says it’s just things needs to keep their opinions to themselves. We work and sacrifice much of our time, our youth and some their health for “things”… sending thoughts and prayers from Somerset England. I had the privilege 20 years ago to spend 6 months in America.. even time in Flagstaff, and have such fond memories of the people and places.

  • @shenanigans-20__20
    @shenanigans-20__20 3 роки тому +2

    So glad I stayed to watch, rather than my usual youtube click-surfing.
    It's a great report!
    May God send some sunshine into your neighborhoods and into your sad hearts. Enclosed are many prayers and warm HUGS.

  • @SRSchoner
    @SRSchoner 3 роки тому +12

    I watched this soon to be called "Museum Fire" start on that Sunday on July 21st 2019 as I was going to Church that morning. It was one small plume at 10:40 AM. It was very dry and hot that morning, near 90 F, and I thought with the fire observation tower on Mt Elden I was certain that a call would go out to put that fire out. Did not happen, and as I was returning to home after church that morning it was a full blown blaze. The cause... Fire mitigation in that watershed doing clearing work that morning. Had it not been done on that very dry and "tinder box" day in 2019 this catastrophe would not have happened. According to the AZ Daily Sun which reported: "Museum Fire was sparked by forest thinning work from the Flagstaff Watershed Protection Project’s steep slope project when an excavator struck a rock during their operations..." They are RESPONSIBLE, along with all the government agencies that allowed this operation to continue on a very dry day, 1% humidity at 90 F+ conditions ... And they should be held accountable for all the damage to Flagstaff Sunnyside homes. Many of these homes are beyond repair, and cannot be repaired as they are now in a flood zone. A CLASS ACTION suit might be in order.

    • @sedonars1
      @sedonars1 3 роки тому

      Sue yourselves; great solution! Let's go cry to the government for all our problems, meanwhile rail against every government agency the rest of the year. Idiots, buyer beware!

    • @claire_A-T
      @claire_A-T 3 роки тому

      Why didn't you call it in when you drove by?

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner 3 роки тому +1

      @@sedonars1 Sue those responsible for the loss of homes. This Museum Fire was human caused. Done at the driest, 90 F plus day of 2019. So I suppose it is OK for the over a dozen so far home owners to then have property, and homes that are worth "0"? That area has not flooded in all of recorded human history, and even American Natives lived nest to that creek that we call Spruce Wash... No, a Class Action is in order, and once the homeowners that have lost their home come together a suit will follow.

    • @SRSchoner
      @SRSchoner 3 роки тому +1

      @@claire_A-T On the way to church, which is in the or on the side of the affected location, i told church members that I saw the plume of smoke, and several had seen it an called it in. But what I find very perplexing... The fire tower observation post that should be manned. Certainly a person manning it would have seen that plume as it was only a mile away. Was the guy asleep? Maybe there was no one in that tower to report this fire that went to wildfire stage very quickly. And being a Sunday, the crew that caused this fire the day previous did not show up till it had become uncontrolled.

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 3 роки тому

      That's infuriating. These people should absolutely sue the city then. Force the city to buy their worthless houses from them for whatever the price of their mortgage was so they can start over again somewhere else.

  • @The-Ordinary-Man
    @The-Ordinary-Man 3 роки тому +4

    I'd love to buy the whole neighborhood and save those folks from their problems.

  • @radiofreealbemuth
    @radiofreealbemuth 3 роки тому +11

    This is why people are moving to Los Angeles and San Diego. They're tired of floods, snow, hurricanes, etc.

    • @southfieldtrill9690
      @southfieldtrill9690 3 роки тому +2

      If u want to escape Natural Disaster's or the high probability that one could occur move to Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Kentucky.💯

    • @thesdlizlifestyle
      @thesdlizlifestyle 3 роки тому +1

      It floods in San Diego, too.

    • @southfieldtrill9690
      @southfieldtrill9690 3 роки тому +2

      @@thesdlizlifestyle It can flood anywhere. There is a big difference between a flash flood and a Flood( MIDWESTERN STATES 1993 - NEW ORLEANS after hurricane Katrina 2005 thats a flood and what u actually call flooded.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd 3 роки тому +1

      @@southfieldtrill9690 enjoy tornadoes do ya?

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd 3 роки тому +1

      @@thesdlizlifestyle not like that!!!

  • @scootermom1791
    @scootermom1791 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! I have never seen a flash flood develop IRL. I'm astonished at how quickly it happens. I'm glad the news reporters were there when this happened. Maybe that will put more pressure on FEMA or the state government to help these people find a permanent solution to this nightmare! I can't imagine having to deal with this every day. I feel so bad for them!

  • @TheDoorspook11c
    @TheDoorspook11c 3 роки тому +16

    Looks like nature is building a new river! Starting with the riverbed.

    • @Treecareproj
      @Treecareproj 3 роки тому

      Who would do such a thing put a river right through the middle of town

    • @clairedeiotte8898
      @clairedeiotte8898 3 роки тому +1

      Get out the sluice!

  • @JCSaves714
    @JCSaves714 3 роки тому +2

    This is way too sad and messed up! They need good ppl representing them since no one does anything! I truly hope they find closure soon and God bless them and they can count on me for prayers!!!!

  • @JohnADuerk
    @JohnADuerk 3 роки тому +3

    This is truly heartbreaking. How could someone build this neighborhood without the proper infrastructure to redirect the water when it rains? It reminds me of Houston, Texas, where countless homes were built in a flood plain. Then, Hurricane Harvey struck in 2017. Homes were in 8-10 feet of water. Sometimes human error comes with a high price tag attached.

  • @queenmommie8295
    @queenmommie8295 3 роки тому +3

    God is sweeping them off of our lands. He doesn't want them to be there. How many black and native American people died on the land before the gentiles built over it??? These are signs get off of the lands. APTTMHY HalleluYah May The King 👑👑👑 Reign FOREVER ♾️.

  • @swflfishing2902
    @swflfishing2902 3 роки тому +6

    So what changed to start flooding these homes? It didn’t all of a sudden start raining

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 3 роки тому +1

      Polar caps.

    • @edgarb.9176
      @edgarb.9176 3 роки тому +6

      There has been a combination of drought, extra rain, and lack of vegetation growth after the fire in 2019. The water after a storm just runs off the mountain where as in the past, the vegetation would stop so much water from running off Mt. Elden.

    • @EMRAE_8
      @EMRAE_8 3 роки тому +2

      Some areas around Flagstaff had wildfires that took out acres of trees and the likelihood of flooding is happening more often. The San Francisco peaks are in the foreground of this part of town. On the north side of town heading north on hwy 89, this happened in the early 2000's where the wildfires burned the trees and vegetation along the peaks there and the next monsoon season flooded those homes there badly until the city created huge runoff channels to divert the water.

    • @eljefe4473
      @eljefe4473 3 роки тому +6

      This is an older neighborhood in flagstaff but the unchecked growth in this small town that lacks the proper infrastructure is causing this. You used to be able to drive through flag and have nice trees and undeveloped areas. Now it’s an asphalt concrete hellish Phoenix type place. When I lived there in late 90s I never understood the NO big box store policies the town council had. Now I get it.

    • @michaelangelos5117
      @michaelangelos5117 3 роки тому +1

      @@eljefe4473 yep

  • @vickybarrett9721
    @vickybarrett9721 3 роки тому +1

    God is trying to tell you something
    I pray for many to wake up
    Your lives and souls are important and materials can be replaced.
    The community needs to come together and pray , help thy neighbor, love thy neighbor

  • @TheGhungFu
    @TheGhungFu 3 роки тому +14

    " ........ gives us a look at what happens when people build in the wrong places ....".... and they'll want my tax dollars to pay for it.

  • @roblangsdorf8758
    @roblangsdorf8758 3 роки тому +11

    This story needs some maps to show where the water comes from and how it could be redirect. Otherwise it is just exciting pictures.

  • @michaelbrinks8089
    @michaelbrinks8089 3 роки тому +4

    I won't be surprised if the city tells them they're not allowed to leave the sand bags up and threatens to fine them if they don't remove them.

  • @presidentcamacho
    @presidentcamacho 3 роки тому +5

    Seems to be an issue with the people who put homes where the water naturally flows.

    • @submechanophobia768
      @submechanophobia768 3 роки тому

      Yes, those people who are in bed with land developers who make decisions on where houses can be built safely. Most likely all republican types who care of only money.

  • @Comin_at_U_Live
    @Comin_at_U_Live 3 роки тому +7

    The old guy is crying as if they weren't told when they bought the place and decided it was worth it anyway..

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 3 роки тому +2

      Right. You can clearly see where the water is going to go how can you continue to he surprised?

  • @barryah4132
    @barryah4132 3 роки тому +5

    YOU ARE LIVING ON STOLEN LANDS SOAKED WITH THE BLOOD OF GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE

  • @robinleavitt7919
    @robinleavitt7919 3 роки тому +1

    Omg this is so sad and it brings tears to my eyes my prayers go out to all of you

  • @carrowxhex6891
    @carrowxhex6891 3 роки тому +3

    Those people look on the verge of mental breakdown and they deserve a solution. That’s an embarrassment to the county and state officials.

  • @gwenjosie
    @gwenjosie 3 роки тому

    I wish people were that kind and friendly in the town I live in. They seem to really care..

  • @nickymatthews2465
    @nickymatthews2465 3 роки тому +6

    Arizona. GOP controlled. No zoning. You get the government you voted for, and the repercussions.

    • @yosquidd242
      @yosquidd242 3 роки тому

      In the Southern USA everywhere, there are lying land developers, unfair tax advantages giving tax-free incentives to corporations for relocating to the Southern regions to create jobs for the white ruler's minority voting block. Republican made in the USA.

    • @georgewashington7374
      @georgewashington7374 Рік тому

      Ain’t nothing GOP about Flagstaff you stupid fckn commie!😂

  • @danielchayra401
    @danielchayra401 3 роки тому +1

    I was an insurance inspector for underwriters and I learned so much, You have to look at all the surrounding factors. Flood planes, fire hazards, factories, trains, airplane routes, rivers, roads, the list is long but very important. Insurance companies look at all of this and CHARGE you accordingly !!

  • @ridgecrestwack9746
    @ridgecrestwack9746 3 роки тому +3

    "What are we supposed to do?" Idk, move out of a flood zone maybe?

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 3 роки тому +1

    5:25 The mayor's summarised part of the problem. The area is a private development which is not eligible for publicly funded protective or preventative maintenance or infrastructure development. A lot of people say they don't favour *big government* - well, that is certainly a free choice to be made at the ballot box...

  • @pauldempsey9065
    @pauldempsey9065 3 роки тому +3

    Im so sad for these poor folks

  • @SicilianStealth
    @SicilianStealth 3 роки тому

    During Sandy my street was under five feet of water. We were evacuated that day Grand Central Terminal being a mess I took the subway up to 241st Street where my mother and my sister picked me up and I went to stay with my parents for several days in Rye we had no electricity but we had hot water and the stove.
    FEMA came to my parents but didn't need to apply. I did and I'm very grateful to FEMA they put me up at the W Hotel for 3 months. Sent me a $2500 check and put me up at Gild Hall - a Thompson Square Hotel for an additional one month.

  • @ernestwilson35
    @ernestwilson35 3 роки тому +4

    Aren't these trump supporters that don't believe in climate change. Now want help from the government.

    • @ernestwilson35
      @ernestwilson35 3 роки тому

      @@josephgold208 tell Tennessee your logic it has always rained that much. You are a trump follower. I'm sure you haven't gotten your vaccine shot either. Everything is fake news right. Well when you get sick stay home and die. My grandma might need that icu bed.

  • @simplykleen7313
    @simplykleen7313 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so all the people who care and are being cautious of what is happening to these people and not just going and talking about how it all was made in a wash and it's all their fault and they shouldn't have made their houses in a wash. when they bought this house or when they made this house it wasn't in a wash this was made by a man-made fire this was not their fault and they are not taking care of this is the counties fault this will be continuing until people do something so before you send rood comments to these people think think about what they are going through they probably have they probably have children they probably have pets. people can die in these Waters they don't want to hear about you commenting oh they made their house in a wash it's not there fault shut up

  • @MajCyric
    @MajCyric 3 роки тому +13

    That's what happens when you live in a house in a flood plain zone..

  • @ghostrider.13
    @ghostrider.13 3 роки тому

    I don't understand how the one lady saying how they've been stacking sandbags for several years well why would she do that when she could easily build a foundation with a wall on top and simply divert that water around your property

  • @VinciGlassArt
    @VinciGlassArt 3 роки тому +4

    Curious, is Arizona able to at least capture this water to help mitigate the drought? Meantime, its not ideal, but just adaptation, but yes they should accept, build and build bigger, stronger, permanent walls at least to channel the water and hopefully direct it somewhere useful. Plan and do. Up to us.

    • @barbaraholzgrebe4710
      @barbaraholzgrebe4710 3 роки тому +1

      We have received so much rain in the whole state this year. It's as green as can be. The snow in the winter fills up the lakes and reservoirs. I've been here my whole life and never seen it like this. The weather mutilation is true issue. Control the people and keep them in fear.

    • @VinciGlassArt
      @VinciGlassArt 3 роки тому

      @ding dong Great. Another example demonstrating how having anti-government people IN government does NOT serve the community of people that the government represents. smh. Maybe the severity of the problem here will change some minds. I hope so, for the sake of the people in the story.

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 3 роки тому

    Things are getting crazy. I live outside NYC and my town had massive flooding. I never even gave flooding a thought. Some poor man died a couple of miles from our house. It happened in a very busy part of town. He was not the only person to die. People had feet of water in their yards all the way to their first floors. No rivers or streams overflowed just massive rain and a sewer system overwhelmed. I feel for these peoples. One flood was enough for me and my damage was light. My 68 year old neighbor has lived in this neighborhood his entire life and had never seen anything like this before. He never thought a flood was a possible. Its the new normal, crazy weather that is.

  • @drmodestoesq
    @drmodestoesq 3 роки тому +5

    Where is all this water going? I'm assuming it'll find its way to some local river and then contribute to a reservoir. That's some small good news I guess.

  • @hippiebits2071
    @hippiebits2071 3 роки тому +1

    Really expected this to be about people complaining about a one time event that had concerned them. It's absolutely unconscionable this has been going on since 2019 without considerable improvements!!!

  • @Richard_the_V
    @Richard_the_V 3 роки тому +5

    Dude, I see water that high, I'm out. Clearly it's past "moving foward"
    Can we agree their state version of gov sucks..

  • @neiljohnson6815
    @neiljohnson6815 3 роки тому +2

    A place that once (or many times) flooded has flooded again! I am shocked and amazed.

  • @junbug1love
    @junbug1love 3 роки тому +7

    I'm in Tempe Arizona just a couple miles from ASU and here in Phoenix we got three alerts back-to-back as well State emergency imminent alerts for flash flooding... And not just last night but recently we have received those to let us know but at the same time last night was the first time I got 3 Alerts... within one or two hours.

  • @clariemorales1246
    @clariemorales1246 2 роки тому

    We are watching from SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO .
    WE ARE CRYING CRYING, CRYING.

  • @FireShine-ss4sb
    @FireShine-ss4sb 3 роки тому +3

    The state can make cattle ponds in outback places and make many of them and large so the water gets dissipated along the way into those ponds and by chance......only guessing and by estimates, the water never rushes a town down main street. You cant easily build a retention dam but you can build 20 smaller holding ponds to help the water table and maybe their volume equals a larger dam. There needs to be more work done with track hoes on state owned land to help ranchers with cattle ponds, for wildlife, and to lessen flood severity.

  • @noorazmiralmohammadnoor3230
    @noorazmiralmohammadnoor3230 3 роки тому

    Flood in flagstaff, i was at nau studying there, just snow, no floods at all for 4 years, i dont recall i have seen rains when i was in 4 years there. Love the place..

  • @toddbest8347
    @toddbest8347 3 роки тому +4

    THEIR OFFICIALS ARE FILMED LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!

  • @brendasprankle9394
    @brendasprankle9394 3 роки тому +1

    Prayers for healing and safety. So sorry for your troubles. God is good. Keep the faith.

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 3 роки тому +10

    The mayor is so busy worrying about his re-election instead of helping with the real problems in flagstaff.

  • @tonykono5225
    @tonykono5225 3 роки тому +1

    There’s a reason flood zones exist.

  • @judithhollandsworth3766
    @judithhollandsworth3766 3 роки тому +5

    Infrastructure would cover what needs to be done. Get your Senator to approve this legislation.

    • @NewOne-ey1wm
      @NewOne-ey1wm 3 роки тому

      Like demolish the houses and build on higher ground?

  • @yliberal6355
    @yliberal6355 3 роки тому +1

    I would look at the city and county for not clearing out the drains properly. My heart goes out to those people!

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 3 роки тому +4

    So funny!
    Imagine the same place getting hit by floods!!
    How is that even possible???

  • @verothomas1524
    @verothomas1524 2 роки тому

    I’m from Hawaii and we know rain. Much of the challenges in tropical regions comes from rerouting old river beds when developers plow under tracts to build homes. In the 70s, as a child, I watched the rivers of water coming down the streets in our neighborhood . The state had to go into the mountains and build large drainage system designed to carry flood waters to the ocean and then the flooding stopped. However, it’s also extreme costly. It’s why we pay the cost of housing that we do. Infrastructure planning is a must. This has to have been happening up there for some time now. The movement of that water indicates, to me, an existing river flowed through thus area and was never rerouted before it was developed. Any ideas how old these homes are?

  • @MrJBZY70
    @MrJBZY70 3 роки тому +3

    You complain it doesn’t rain! Than complain when it does!

  • @AdaMakawee
    @AdaMakawee 3 роки тому +1

    All the city has to do is seize the property where the flood pathway occurs, that makes it public property. No problem with the tax dollars used to fix it then. After all, they wouldn't think twice if they wanted to put a pipeline through there or mine it for gold or something.

  • @DJohnsonappraiser4laproperty
    @DJohnsonappraiser4laproperty 3 роки тому +5

    Heartbreaking to watch. Blows my mind every time I hear about U.S. tax dollars going to a foreign country. Long past due we put Americans first.

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 3 роки тому +1

      We give them money every year they rebuild in the same spot and expect a different result. Helping third world countries is not as expensive as helping here at home.

  • @jameswilliams5257
    @jameswilliams5257 3 роки тому +2

    I grew up in sunny side and I am 62 now and I seen a lot of storms and it never flooded like that. The city is to blame for the flooding. All the comments about building in a flood plain don't know what they're talking about. Don't comment on items you don't know anything about.

    • @sedonars1
      @sedonars1 3 роки тому

      You need to get used to Climate Catastrophe in every neighborhood in the world. All of this was predicted in 1989 when the NWS testified in congress that if you don't stop subsidizing oil companies, you will pay the consequences.
      Now shut up and take your medicine, and quit crying to the government that has been bought and paid for by giant industry!

  • @fuzzypeaches7552
    @fuzzypeaches7552 3 роки тому +3

    Where will the water go when you cover hundreds of square miles with development

  • @standepain
    @standepain 2 роки тому

    2:28 The look she gives the camera is just heartbreaking. We had flooding issues like this in my town and they figure out it was a new set of developments that were put in and with so much concrete and asphalt all over the water had no place to soak in the ground anymore. They added in a few retention ponds and it's flooded out but it didn't affect any homes. I really hope they solved this.

  • @plasticman3952
    @plasticman3952 3 роки тому +5

    The Arizona constitution prevents them from fixing the flooding problems. Maybe the time to reconsider your voting habits