Both the IIs and IIIs. The problem with the Spartan IVs is that a lot of them were either immature frat boys or toxic a-holes. But then you have the likes of Buck (who deserved Spartan augmentation) and Thorne (who can't come close to IIs/IIIs in combat prowess but he, according to no less than Halsey herself, comes closer than the others to what is needed of a Spartan in terms of loyalty and personality).
@@raghuvarv personality I believe the spartan 4s need to be this way. They can’t be like the 2s or 3s. I believe that’s where many fans go wrong at. The 4s aren’t meant to be like their Predecessors but something in between a normal soldier and a spartan. They’re the kids who can get shit done and have fun (and get on your nerves lol) very much like a younger sibling trying to fill big shoes. And they DEFINITELY don’t die quickly or quite just like any other spartan(halo infinite showed that RIP warriors)
@@heerosagayuy2143 Good points. And, yeah, Infinite did a fine job showing us how badass Spartan IVs can be. May man Sorel killed multiple Elites and Brutes with a freaking screwdriver.
@@TheTruth-13 Really triggered and grabbing onto straws huh? Comparing a comedy parody to what suppose to be a dramatic live action version of Halo, which is a sci-fi war game? Low balling.
I love how real of a homie Cutter is in this scene. Jerome basically asks them to bomb the shit out of their approximate location and Cutter no questions asked just launches that shit. Real trust between men right there.
He asked for danger close, which means as close to them as possible without hitting them, yeah there is still a chance of injury but it's nothing special. I've done that myself a couple of times in Iraq. You just got to make sure you know the blast radius of what you are asking to be fired and are very accurate with the grid you provide.
If they'd make a show about the Spirit of Fire crew (with Spartan Red Team) stuck without a slipspace drive and trying to get back to UNSC space in a the Odyssey-esque or Battlestar Galactica type story would be awesome
I love how every alternative to the halo show is literally just rip off other sci fi military shows. Tell me how much you want a Band of brothers odst show next you unimaginative cretins.
I want a story about young Noble Team getting their first Mjolnir set. :3 And to find out if everyone else sees Kat and Carter as the power couple I suspect they are. X3
Jerome shows that you can still have a mostly stoic Spartan with personality. "Modern" writers have no TALENT for writing characters with subtlety or nuance
Stoic? It’s a video game. Are you really talking about stoic when this isn’t a real person you’re watching? Are you really talking about personality when Cheif is having an identity crisis understanding where he came from compared to a video game that’s on a mission?
You'll get used to it. These shows are made by people whose attitude is that they're not going to give you what you want. They're going to give you what they think you should get.
Jerome's character is further proof that with good writing, you do not need to have Spartans show their face often to get their emotions across. He at first adresses Isabelle in a military fashion, but later becomes less formal with her; despite her being an AI, he does not treat her as a mere tool.
@@magasior4104 but no... they made Kwan like Korean Grogu and gave her an uninteresting storyline. Made MCheeks out of character, uninteresting plot and too many cliches like every other CW show.
@@cinimatics They are deliberately trying to make it into a "Better" Mandalorian Show. While doing the exact opposite of what Dave Filloni and Pedro Pascal did with "The Mandalorian."
@@owenwoolley3394 Yeah the first Halo Wars took place before shielding was available for the Covenant or Humanity, they went into cryo after the events of Halo Wars and never got the energy shield upgrades
@@CorgiGiant I like this explanation and logic too, but there's actually a big point of contention online on whether or not red team has shielding. Some say that in lore they were the first to be given prototype shielding 20 years before it became standard issue, or that they salvaged it in abandoned unsc posts during the events before cryo while they were still lost in space. Personally I think that no sheilding would be the best, because it's badass and it really sets up the master cheif vs atriox conflict (maybe not anymore after cheif got rekt), 3 spartan IIs with outdated armour and no sheilding can't beat atriox, but what about the Spartan II with the best suit yet?
Keeping in mind that Jerome is relatively young compared to Chief in the show. I think Jerome is in his 20's or something like that, considering how long he's been in cryo and had to be resurrected
Yes because red team failed their augmentation if i remember right, and they had to be frozen till they found a way to fix them then they spend like 20 years in cryo after they lost their slip drive.
@@angerskarin9222 no bud, Jerome is one of the original fully equipped and ready spartan 2s identify alongside several others of major leadership potential the other 3 being Kurt, Fred and John.
Jerome has dominated every cutscene he's been in since Halo Wars 1, Red team fighting the honour guards and protecting the slipspace nuke is still one of my favorite Halo cutscenes in the entire franchise
Fuck. YES. Jerome even volunteers to take the drive in and make sure of the destruction but Sgt Forge knows they'll need Spartans more than him takes his place. Fantastic scene.
@@TheTruth-13 it's not that the action or cgi was all that bad, the 5th episode proves that a live action can be done well in that regard. But the character writing is inexcusably bad.
@@chrismusiclover9893 what makes it even more Mental is that Jerome has Mark IV (4) Gen 1 Armour. Mark IV is the very first "mass-produced" model of Spartan armour in Halo History and was created in 2525, Halo wars 2 takes place in 2559, the armour is 34 YEARS old by that point. That is the Ecuivalent to using a Sptifre and Sherman to fight the first models of A-10 warthog and Leopard 2 Edit: and that is pretty much what happens in Halo Wars 2
Gotta hand it to Douglass too: you can almost read his mind going "well... shit" when he sees Atriox turn on Chainbreaker in front of him, but despite having the teeth kicked out of him and the hammer literally about to drop on him, he still tries to get up and hit Atriox again despite everything they had thrown at him not even phasing the guy.
*that* was what made them Spartans. They simply did not understand giving up. They knew when to tactically retreat, when to regroup, but they always had a plan. Even if that plan meant certain death, they'd die trying.
@@trouty7947 well... Reach is proof III can be as good as II and I ... They gave it all for the mission... And in the end, despite all loss and mission succes... noble 6 still fight until death. I mean.. that was one hell of an end. Kinda wished we had more spartans story. I mean i would love to know more about palmer, jerome, and even get noble team before... Or get a follow up on Jun... Anyway i feel like they are underrated. Locke was interesting too as a spartan IV...
@@thomasbouvier3203 I agree with everything you said, except the part about Locke. He was absolutely NOT interesting, and definitely the least compelling out of every other Spartan ever shown
Homie legit pulled out a knife, went hand-to-hand and dug it as far as he could TWICE into Atriox’s gut. You could even see blood spout out when he takes it out. Not even Chief made Atriox bleed.
@@shooterDisease Cortana blew up a whole segment of a ring to try and kill Atriox and all it seemed to do was scorch his face a little... Douglass did more with a damn knife!
Jerome is Chief' perfect successor in so many ways. Even Isabelle. When John retires along with Cortana, now out of service, Jerome takes over. I do however want a passing of the torch moment between Chief and Jerome. Maybe some missions together
" When John retires along with Cortana, now out of service," correction, *if* Chief retires. but it's more likely that Chief will die saving the day or he'll stay as the main character.
@@prufan I mean, it'll happen some day, since his voice actor, Steve Downes is in his 70s. MC would never feel the same without the iconic voice actor. We've seen how generic-feeling Sam Fisher became in blacklist when Michael Ironside wasn't voicing him.
This. The show has 10,000 lore discrepancies but a show in the timeline the show is “in” pre reach should be team of IIs in sage green mark 4 armor. I think all of them looking uniform except for their numbers and body shape would be so much cooler. That’s how I see Spartan IIs. Spartan 3-4s should have the different armors.
@@SpartanK9 If they would have made all the spartans in the show into 3s then they could have easily gotten away with showing their face and them being more "expressive." S-IIIs were partly known for that as you can see in Halo Reach. They also would have gotten way less backlash.
Jerome is the coolest and most stoic Spartans have been since Halo reach, man’s is just a baddie. I wish Halo Infinite was anywhere near as good as Halo Wars 2. They really had something there with that art style and cutscene direction that they just couldn’t redo for infinite. At least in my opinion!
Yeah Halo Wars 2 is peak halo design. Such good aesthetics and sounds. They really used the teen rating to its fullest extent and it never bothered me. On the other hand Halo infinite and Halo 5 really felt limited by the teen rating, Halo Wars 2 even without gore or anything had more maturity and serious language. Halo infinite shoulda been just like Halo Wars 2 but first person and on the slipspace engine.
The HW2 Banished artstyle is so good. It’s really brutal and scrappy, which makes sense because they’re basically a pirate faction run by clever monkeys. In Infinite, though, the vehicles are just red Covenant vehicles and the structures are just red UNSC structures. It doesn’t look good.
@@muyandos Huh? What do you mean? 343 copied the designs made from Halo Wars 2 and put it in Halo Infinite. I mean look at the Phantom. They are the exact same from both games but, at least from my perspective, the Halo Wars 2 Phantom shouldn’t of been put into Halo Infinite as it looks pretty ridiculous in first person.
@@dominator1914 They did not, the phatom maybe but the rest of vehicles are red covenant see side by side comparison between HW2 Wraith and Infinite Wraith, or the Ghost
@@semillakan6 The Halo Infinite Ghost actually doesn’t look like HW2 or the Covenant ghost. It’s really weird it’s more heavily armoured than the Covenant ghost but it’s doesn’t have the segmented armour style of the HW2 ghost. The Wraith though is even weirded. The Halo Infinite Wraith has the exact same design as the HW2 Wraith but the colouring is off. Like for some reason the Halo Infinite Wraith’s bottom half isn’t colored and is just silver unlike the HW2 Wraith which has a fully red and black paint job.
The simple task of taking off a helmet is supposed to be meaningful? What? Trying to find meaning in anything. Even something so simple as showing their face. It’s not meaningful at all and loses its meaning when you watch it more than once.
Red team is so badass. Especially when you learn that they failed augmentation and had to go into stasis till they could be treated and put back into service.
@@spartanzneverdie3211 Halo Fandom Wiki It was only Douglas-042 and Alice-130 who initially had a bad reaction to augmentation. Jerome-092 however did just fine after Augmentation.
@@maxhydekyle2425 not true for all of them, some it out right killed, others it paralyzed, some they just didnt take and they were too damaged to be used, one of the crew members on cairo station was a failed augment if i remember right
This is really why the Halo TV show should have been A) Animated. B) written by people who wrote for the Halo games. The Halo TV show as it is is a mess. Edit: It has become clear that yes, it is in another time-line. But it doesn't mean that the show is any less bad.
You obviously haven’t watched the show and all you’ve done is watched clips on UA-cam. It’s clear and obvious. “Is a mess” you only see what you’re capable of seeing. Your own messy life
@@TheTruth-13 For someone who's name is "The Truth" you are in serious denial that the show is garbage from the start. Good god it was clear from the trailer that they already messed up. The armor is wrong, the plot is way off, its like the whole thing takes place in a alternate time line all together. Its a complete and utter mess, prove otherwise.
@@DrManticGaming there’s nothing to prove, it’s clear to me that you haven’t watched the show and all you’ve done is watch clips. The fact that you need me to “prove” the show to you is clear evidence that you haven’t watched the show. I have and I need no one to tell me anything about what I’ve already watched. Continue to say what you like you haven’t watched the show. Anything you have to say about the show holds no weight and has no value. Just by the way you speak it’s clear and obvious you haven’t watched the show.
@@bigbadbob7070 exactly despite only one side nuking civilian cities and it wasn't the UNSC doing it. Besides the UNSC already had it's totally evil parts like ONI, so just making the entire thing evil is beyond stupid as it robs it if the far more interesting moral dynamics of the various groups making up the UNSC.
@@NinjaTyler TBF, I can only recall two instances of nukes being used, and actually the first recorded instance was done by the UNSC on Far Isle but we really don’t know what happened there with the second being done by a particularly extremist Innie cell. Doesn’t make the crimes of the innies any better, but the conflict was rather gray and the CMA and UEG didn’t help things calm down.
wasn't the blur animation cost like a million a minute though, still doesn't excuse paramount's shitty effort considering that they are one of the giant film companies.
Legendary - Master Chief in a Mint Blitz video. Heroic - Master Chief in the books. Normal - Master Chief in a multiplayer game. Easy - Master Chief in the TV series.
Nah, Normal is Master Chief in the cutscenes, Easy is Master Chief in a multiplayer game, and Journalist Mode is Master Chief in a bad fanfiction. Master Chief in the TV series is just a bunch of ABC blocks stacked in the shape of a person.
Honestly, if they were to cgi with blur cinematic like this for the TV series or made something like this instead. I wouldn't be made at that. Nor anyone else at least.
I see Jerome as the only best replacement for MC in the “Halo” (Game) franchise because one Steve is most likely done with Chief. And I think it’s time Chief has some time away (until at least we have a good replacement for Steve) and Jerome and Red team are still decades younger because of being in Cryo for so long. So If 343 does another Halo game with a Spartan II as Main Character it better be Jerome, Alice or Doug! But Jerome fits the Bill more because he’s a really good, natural born leader similar to John.
i swear. i cannot go through a comment section on a halo video without spotting people spouting the fact that steve downs "retired". he retired from radio my dudes, and 7 years ago too. and people somehow after having still voiced within those 7 years after the "retirement" announcement still think he is done with chief, it's very funny.
@@septemberstarlight9362 Steve isn’t as young and it was stated this is the last Halo Game with chief for the next 10 years there is going to be campaign add ons. But we don’t know if that’s gonna stay. And I didn’t say Steve retired I said he’s most likely done with Chief so don’t try to twist my words. I was just stating if they do a game with a Spartan II and it isn’t chief it better be Red team. Because Jerome in my honest opinion is the next best leader for the Spartans he’s not as great but is definitely capable to pull off what chief can do.
Honestly, Jerome and Isabella are such an underrated duo in the franchise. Like just from watching these clips you can feel how they went from strangers to partners and it’s amazing how much they bounce off each other, and through that keep a different dynamic than Chief and Cortana
That scene of him facing down the charging brutes gave me some chills. Nothing I love more than a good “grit your teeth and hold your damn ground” moment
Atriox could've snapped Alice's neck and tear out Douglas' arm, right there, right then Yet he didn't What stopped him? ("plot" sure, but I bet there's something else to it)
Atriox seems to be way too cocky, thats what gets him killed at the end probably. He has not met any Spartans in combat before HW2 scene, only heard stories. Probably though those are just some lesser weak fighters making up stories about Demon achievements. If he keeps playing with his food like that, he will realize Demons are not food, but instead killer-sharks, who he has only met out of their natural hunting environment. On open field Atriox would get clapped hard by a Spartan.
@@JP-gg8nv actually if I remember correctly Atriox was part of a group called Blood Stars, which the covenant made to hunt down Spartans, they were trained by the silent shadows, they got a lot of info about Spartans but the time they were sent to kill a team of Spartans the leader died and the covenant disbanded the Blood Stars, but Atriox has seen a Spartan in action before HW2
@@JP-gg8nv actually He'd Clapp em and you need arby cheif and red team along with plot to get rid of him I can absolultyebsee him being that tough He might as well be a natural spartan which is just hmng
I think him being able to take on 3 s2s was bs tbf, even if he has power armour it only increases his strength, he has no helmet so why didn't they headshot him and keep at range since he's clearly a huge brute with a gravity hammer, going for cqc is obviously unnecessary risk against a stronger, larger armoured enemy with a powerful melee weapon when you can just shoot their unarmoured head
I imagine the banished lost quite a bit in that Archer barrage. They are anti capital ship missiles so the amount of explosives in them would probably be enough to level anything caught in the blast and the shock waves would send stuff flying
The writing, the art, the cutscene and pacing is just pure perfection especially the spartans, they really manage to show the stoic yet heroic and pure balls of steel bravado they have combined with the A.I being this quirky it’s just perfection
The smooth-as-butter ‘move up’ signal from Jerome always makes me smile. You can really tell they’re are the best of the best and damn near telepathic with one another.
Master Chief wasn't the best skilled Spartan nor the strongest. He was just the most charismatic and with unending piles of luck. Pardon me, just an old fan of the original novels.
if you're a fan of the original novels, then pretty much everything starting with halo: reach must have been absolute torture for you haha. the very essence of HALO has changed so much. but I will say, Halo wars 2 cutscenes are the closest we've gotten to the original trilogy of novels in all that time.
Hey can you tell me where did you read halo novels? Do we have to play games to have the full story? I would very much like to read the original novels
@@oonyyplaysrpg Have a search for 'Halo: The fall of Reach' by Eric Nylund. A great read that one. 'Halo: The flood' the story covers the events of the Halo ring is ok. 'Halo: First strike' and 'Halo: Ghosts of Onyx' are excellent reads... both written by Eric Nylund. 'Halo: Contact Harvest' by Joseph Staten (one of the creative leads on the original Halo games) is also an alright read.
I've never seen Halo Wars 2's campaign before, this looks fucking awesome, I really should watch all of it. Imagine if Infinite had something like those giant scenes or UNSC vs Banished battles instead of the UNSC and marines literally being irrelevant for the entirety of the campaign apart from being on the "100% completion checklist" and razorback weapons.
@@Aredel You are comparing two very different situations. Infinity got ambushed by 4 ships at the same time. It was a full force attack and Atriox was out for revenge. In Halo Wars however it was just a salvaging crew. A small fraction of what Banished is capable of. Hell, they were not even taking UNSC seriously at the time.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 with access to a Covenant capital ship, a ship that can, as we saw in Halo 2, scythe a UNSC cruiser clean in half with a single pulse from one of its lances. Atriox was already kicking it into gear when he attack the Spirit of Fire directly; there’s no reason he wouldn’t obliterate it as soon as they posed even a minor nuisance.
dudeeee a battlefield styled halo game would be fucking crazy think of all the cool potential and shit it could do lol *hijacks a banshee from orbit and crashes it into a scarab* but nah frfr
@@UA-camCensors "oh a cool Spartan scene finall-ooh they ruined it with a close up helmet shot of him yelling like a lunatic....and then again 5 seconds later ...and again after that..."
I havent even played(but watched the cutscenes cuz they feel real good to watch) but Isabelle's terrified little "Wait, nono-" scream that turns into a laugh gets me every fuckin time. Her feeding off the high of being inside a Spartan and feeling everything he's doing for the first time is palpable. The animators, writers and VAs fuckin KILLED it
Something neat i noticed is that when Jerome first retrieves Isabel, he never plugs the chip into his helmet cause Mark IV suits were not AI compatible, but after they retrofitted the suits with Gen 2 hardware he was able to plug in Isabel’s chip to his helmet
You know this show could be A LOT better if their "Master Chief" was simply an original new character to the series; that would have significantly (in my eyes at least) controlled more of the damage that this show has in how it handles the license. Like the main character not being John 117 but rather a original new character would have been more logical with how different he is from the lore...
I mean, the simple solution would have been to make a Halo adaptation and not a Mass Effect adaptation. Or, skin the show like Mass Effect, call it Mass Effect, and watch the money rake in.
I have to agree, Chief’s legacy in the show has been desecrated. Makes me look back to spartan IVs in Spartan Ops and think they were masterfully written🥲
I'd love to see just a full show/series or even multiple movies of content just like this, i wish more games did this, so many good cinematics that we basically get a full movie with just the cutscenes.
I hope we do see more of Red Team. I want to see Jerome and Chief catching up like bros, interacting with Blue team. Maybe he can take up the mantle have his own game, would be neat too. Its gonna be a long time before we get even a chance of them maybe showing up, but it is one story thread kinda just hanging loose, ripe for potential tho.
This game has too much potential to be used as an RTS alone. There should have been an FPS installment of this and he would have been loved as much as John or Noble team.
Hopefully one day we get a game where you see all 7 of the Spartans from Blue and Red teams on the battlefield at the same time, would definitely be a sight to see
Instead of master chief being the protagonist for once, I would absolutely love to see the spirit of fire crew in a first person halo game. Specifically before forge dies.
I love in HW2 and H2A how Blur Studios created on-screen cinematics with Spartan's fighting at speed and moving and not make it look corny and god awfully headache inducing. How 343i's TV Paramount production did it was absolutely fucking nauseating!
Honestly I only wish they'd stop cutting to chief's face whenever a fight happens. Its SUUUPER jarring and made me laugh way more than I'd like to admit
You say that like it’s surprising if something ever happened to Chief Jerome is the only acceptable replacement he’s literally a less depressed chief with a little more personality
It's cool that instead of giving up, Jerome, Douglas, and Alice tried again after failing to be a SPARTAN II. They're weaker than normal SPARTAN IIs Also much of the arsenal in Halo Wars 2 for the UNSC are still kinda in the H2 era as such with the magnum being the civilian variant that was available in H2 rather than the H1 Magnum Edit: the M6C was not a civilian version. It was a vehicle crew version. Sorry.
@@yampaamvs to be specific, there are 3 versions of the Magnum. The M6C is the Halo 2 pistol and was issued to vehicle crew. The M6G is the Halo 3 and Reach pistol and was issued to Armed Forces. The M6D is the Halo: CE pistol and issued to Navy Officers The M6H is what replaced all the pistols in Halo 4 and 5 There is a variant of the C that is used by ODST personnel as the M6C SOCOM
Pretty sure that they're not actually any weaker than any other S-II. I don't know where people get that information, but there's never been a source. They are washouts that got rehabilitated, but why does that mean they're weaker?
if they wanted a spartan with more human aspects (besides humanising chief slowly through the games which is more than fine) they shouldve gone with jerome, entertaining enough for a general audience but still in line with the stoic badassery the halo fans want to see. Also means less fans are offended by so many innacuracies as there is less media with jerome as the focus.
Exactly, it's like how they did The Mandalorian, same universe and timeline, just a new pocket of it with mostly new characters and shocker! It worked really well. The Halo games and books have proved you don't need Master Chief to be Halo, just needs compelling characters and fights, and have a gritty dark atmosphere with some humor and hope dashed in to combat the oppressive atmosphere
4:02 might be one of my favorite cinematics. I love seeing the wall of marines and vehicles make a blockade, the red flare smoke covering the field as a tank is dropped, and then Jerome whips his warthog to the side, and jumps out like a badass. Jerome is an epic spartan.
Someone also pointed out that snippet was representing UNSC forces in terms of lethality. A squad of marines laying down cover fire. A warthog unloading their chain gun. A tank getting dropped and ready to deliver high-explosive shells. And the calm, cool and collected arrival of a Spartan-II.
I loved the halo wars cinematic crazy they could do this easily for games but not the show I mean the shows good but damn who ever designed this they better be getting payed as they should BIG MONEY
I've said it once and i'll say it again Jerome is the PERFECT candidate to replace Chief if big man ever does die cause holy fuck he may not be a hyper lethal vector but he's got the skills to pay the bills for sure
wouldn't spartan Jerome have around the same experience with fighting the covenant compared to master chief? They're both spartan II's so even if Jerome was the main character for the TV show instead, he'd still have even harder time compared to when Halo wars 2 takes place (2559~). Based on my minimal thinking skills, doesn't the TV show take place around the time when reach fell too? I know, I know, a lot of questions... and probably very biased in the way to think, I'm also probably very wrong. If you want to murder me with words and point out every inconsistency I have said go ahead, I would like to know your opinion so i can learn a bit more.
Jerome has less experience yes but Ithink the way jerome sees it because elites are part of the banished there wasn't much difference to fighting them upfront since hes used to seeing them in the covenant plus jerome seems quick enough to change his fighting style when he first fights the brutes
Halo Wars 1 take place at the beginning of the war, and Red Team graduated late from the Spartan program, so by the time of HW1 they had less experience then the Chief would have, but not by much. After HW1, Red Team goes in cryo for 30ish years until HW2, so Jerome would have less experience than the Master Chief, but considering that they’re both Spartans it doesn’t make much of a difference.
Man, if Jerome would come as a dlc characters or even be the new master chief, would be really glad. At least 343 did got right build this character, honestly most part of halo wars 2 as a hole.
The halo show was literally made to make money they assumed by making it semi halo they’d draw in an easy and big early crowd and then slowly build a normal audience with the typical TV drama type shit on top of that to support the show/platform
It’s pretty obvious they don’t give a shit about Halo. The creators even said they didn’t read any of the books or play any of the games when making the show, which they were making based on said books and games. fucking hilarious
My one thing I love about being oh lore accurate chief when he’s fighting the brutes while there being videos of him dodging gravity hammers and the. Jerome’s fight
He is thats his name you obviously haven’t watched the show. Or are you trying to say he’s not a created video game character. No he isn’t which is clear and obvious he’s not a video game
I know there's like a 0% chance of this ever happening, but if they ever want to send Chief out with a bang in the games, Jerome would be a great character to continue the series with.
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The Spartan 2s are just something else man. No nonsense, no hero complex, just badassery at its finest.
Same could be said with the 3s
Both the IIs and IIIs. The problem with the Spartan IVs is that a lot of them were either immature frat boys or toxic a-holes. But then you have the likes of Buck (who deserved Spartan augmentation) and Thorne (who can't come close to IIs/IIIs in combat prowess but he, according to no less than Halsey herself, comes closer than the others to what is needed of a Spartan in terms of loyalty and personality).
What’s better is that Jerome is a spartan 2 washout. His body rejected the augmentation. So your typical spartan 2 was even more lethal than him
@@raghuvarv personality I believe the spartan 4s need to be this way. They can’t be like the 2s or 3s. I believe that’s where many fans go wrong at. The 4s aren’t meant to be like their Predecessors but something in between a normal soldier and a spartan. They’re the kids who can get shit done and have fun (and get on your nerves lol) very much like a younger sibling trying to fill big shoes. And they DEFINITELY don’t die quickly or quite just like any other spartan(halo infinite showed that RIP warriors)
@@heerosagayuy2143 Good points. And, yeah, Infinite did a fine job showing us how badass Spartan IVs can be.
May man Sorel killed multiple Elites and Brutes with a freaking screwdriver.
Thats how you show a spartan face. Only when injured and forced to.
Says who? You? You obviously never watched red vs Blue
Ahem reach
@@TheTruth-13 Really triggered and grabbing onto straws huh? Comparing a comedy parody to what suppose to be a dramatic live action version of Halo, which is a sci-fi war game? Low balling.
@@TheTruth-13 such a bad comparison imo. We're talking official stuff, like Reach made it make sense
@@TheTruth-13 first time we saw a face was when??? Caroline in the freeway and was injured and forced???
I love how real of a homie Cutter is in this scene. Jerome basically asks them to bomb the shit out of their approximate location and Cutter no questions asked just launches that shit. Real trust between men right there.
Yeah. True trust indeed. And also, if a Spartan II sounds alarmed and asks for a bombardment, you damn well do it without any further questions.
@@raghuvarv if a spartan II ASKED to bomb their location, you bomb their location. Period.
😂😂😂
@@kingsantos142 Shit has hit the fan and there is no time for questions.
He asked for danger close, which means as close to them as possible without hitting them, yeah there is still a chance of injury but it's nothing special. I've done that myself a couple of times in Iraq. You just got to make sure you know the blast radius of what you are asking to be fired and are very accurate with the grid you provide.
@@ryanwilson3314 Huh... Learn something new everyday.
If they'd make a show about the Spirit of Fire crew (with Spartan Red Team) stuck without a slipspace drive and trying to get back to UNSC space in a the Odyssey-esque or Battlestar Galactica type story would be awesome
dude, HELL YEAH!
be like some ST Voyage style!
Sounds incredibly boring
I love how every alternative to the halo show is literally just rip off other sci fi military shows. Tell me how much you want a Band of brothers odst show next you unimaginative cretins.
I want a story about young Noble Team getting their first Mjolnir set. :3 And to find out if everyone else sees Kat and Carter as the power couple I suspect they are. X3
Jerome shows that you can still have a mostly stoic Spartan with personality. "Modern" writers have no TALENT for writing characters with subtlety or nuance
Modern writers have no talent period.
This is a modern game wym?
Stoic? It’s a video game. Are you really talking about stoic when this isn’t a real person you’re watching? Are you really talking about personality when Cheif is having an identity crisis understanding where he came from compared to a video game that’s on a mission?
You guys really say anything don’t you
“No talent” are you some sort of Talent expert? Not sure who you think you are
The fact that these cut scenes are better than the show
I’d rather binge the halo wars 2 cutscenes than watch the show
You'll get used to it.
These shows are made by people whose attitude is that they're not going to give you what you want.
They're going to give you what they think you should get.
@SonzaiX only the first episode. after that i just watched angry joe's reviews on them
Theyre WAY better than the show, its not even close
@@mudkipmudkopilis1989Halo wars cutscenes are just something else.
Jerome's character is further proof that with good writing, you do not need to have Spartans show their face often to get their emotions across.
He at first adresses Isabelle in a military fashion, but later becomes less formal with her; despite her being an AI, he does not treat her as a mere tool.
They could've simply told the actor to rip off Pascal's Mandalorian and that would've been a better chief than what they gave us.
@@magasior4104 but no... they made Kwan like Korean Grogu and gave her an uninteresting storyline. Made MCheeks out of character, uninteresting plot and too many cliches like every other CW show.
I think he eventually realized she wasn't a Military AI like Cortana or Serina.
You'd think they'd know this after how the well the Mandalorian did.
@@cinimatics
They are deliberately trying to make it into a "Better" Mandalorian Show.
While doing the exact opposite of what Dave Filloni and Pedro Pascal did with "The Mandalorian."
The fact that Jerome took on the banished in outdated mark 4 armor with no shielding is impressive. Still the best looking armor in my opinion.
As someone who hasn’t played halo wars, I would like to say: WHAT!? MOTHERFUCKER IS TAKING ON THESE SUCKERS WITHOUT SHIELDING?!
@@owenwoolley3394 Yeah the first Halo Wars took place before shielding was available for the Covenant or Humanity, they went into cryo after the events of Halo Wars and never got the energy shield upgrades
@@CorgiGiantbefore humans covenant had shielded for centuries before that point
@@CorgiGiant I like this explanation and logic too, but there's actually a big point of contention online on whether or not red team has shielding. Some say that in lore they were the first to be given prototype shielding 20 years before it became standard issue, or that they salvaged it in abandoned unsc posts during the events before cryo while they were still lost in space. Personally I think that no sheilding would be the best, because it's badass and it really sets up the master cheif vs atriox conflict (maybe not anymore after cheif got rekt), 3 spartan IIs with outdated armour and no sheilding can't beat atriox, but what about the Spartan II with the best suit yet?
@@CorgiGiant damn bro. Those MFs are built different.
Keeping in mind that Jerome is relatively young compared to Chief in the show. I think Jerome is in his 20's or something like that, considering how long he's been in cryo and had to be resurrected
Yes because red team failed their augmentation if i remember right, and they had to be frozen till they found a way to fix them then they spend like 20 years in cryo after they lost their slip drive.
Considering that, he would make for a good replacement, if they decide the original is too old to continue.
No, only Alice and Douglas in Red Team had bad reactions to the implants. Jerome was just fine.
@@angerskarin9222 no Jerome was advanced
@@angerskarin9222 no bud, Jerome is one of the original fully equipped and ready spartan 2s identify alongside several others of major leadership potential the other 3 being Kurt, Fred and John.
Jerome has dominated every cutscene he's been in since Halo Wars 1, Red team fighting the honour guards and protecting the slipspace nuke is still one of my favorite Halo cutscenes in the entire franchise
i go back to this cutscene every time i remember how great blur's animation were back then. god i love that scene
Fuck. YES. Jerome even volunteers to take the drive in and make sure of the destruction but Sgt Forge knows they'll need Spartans more than him takes his place. Fantastic scene.
Well every Halo Spartan is better Master Chief than Parahalo chief...
you mean Master Cheeks?
It’s almost like video games and animations can be done better than real life
@@TheTruth-13 Yes that is the point.
@@TheTruth-13 it's not that the action or cgi was all that bad, the 5th episode proves that a live action can be done well in that regard. But the character writing is inexcusably bad.
I just call it a separate halo universe and have done with it. Mind you, their Miranda is hotter, I WOULD tap that.
Not to mention Jerome was in freaking 1st Gen MJOLNIR armor during this whole thing, John is using the latest in the current timeline
AND the legend doesn't have Shielding either
@@rokairu0-216 them first gen suits we're built to last im telling you lol
@@chrismusiclover9893 what makes it even more Mental is that Jerome has Mark IV (4) Gen 1 Armour. Mark IV is the very first "mass-produced" model of Spartan armour in Halo History and was created in 2525, Halo wars 2 takes place in 2559, the armour is 34 YEARS old by that point.
That is the Ecuivalent to using a Sptifre and Sherman to fight the first models of A-10 warthog and Leopard 2
Edit: and that is pretty much what happens in Halo Wars 2
@@rokairu0-216 plus it has no shielding
@@rokairu0-216 just shows that most of the time older stuff has more quality
Gotta hand it to Douglass too: you can almost read his mind going "well... shit" when he sees Atriox turn on Chainbreaker in front of him, but despite having the teeth kicked out of him and the hammer literally about to drop on him, he still tries to get up and hit Atriox again despite everything they had thrown at him not even phasing the guy.
*that* was what made them Spartans. They simply did not understand giving up. They knew when to tactically retreat, when to regroup, but they always had a plan. Even if that plan meant certain death, they'd die trying.
@@trouty7947 well... Reach is proof III can be as good as II and I ... They gave it all for the mission... And in the end, despite all loss and mission succes... noble 6 still fight until death. I mean.. that was one hell of an end.
Kinda wished we had more spartans story. I mean i would love to know more about palmer, jerome, and even get noble team before... Or get a follow up on Jun... Anyway i feel like they are underrated.
Locke was interesting too as a spartan IV...
@@thomasbouvier3203 I agree with everything you said, except the part about Locke. He was absolutely NOT interesting, and definitely the least compelling out of every other Spartan ever shown
Homie legit pulled out a knife, went hand-to-hand and dug it as far as he could TWICE into Atriox’s gut.
You could even see blood spout out when he takes it out.
Not even Chief made Atriox bleed.
@@shooterDisease Cortana blew up a whole segment of a ring to try and kill Atriox and all it seemed to do was scorch his face a little... Douglass did more with a damn knife!
I love that they added Jerome as a commander he’s so much fun to play as with his mantis and the rest of the fire team.
Jerome is Chief' perfect successor in so many ways. Even Isabelle. When John retires along with Cortana, now out of service, Jerome takes over. I do however want a passing of the torch moment between Chief and Jerome. Maybe some missions together
" When John retires along with Cortana, now out of service," correction, *if* Chief retires.
but it's more likely that Chief will die saving the day or he'll stay as the main character.
@@prufan I mean, it'll happen some day, since his voice actor, Steve Downes is in his 70s. MC would never feel the same without the iconic voice actor.
We've seen how generic-feeling Sam Fisher became in blacklist when Michael Ironside wasn't voicing him.
I agree. Jerome should be the one to put an end to atriox... not Chief.
Let's all appreciate how good the mk4 looks.
This. The show has 10,000 lore discrepancies but a show in the timeline the show is “in” pre reach should be team of IIs in sage green mark 4 armor. I think all of them looking uniform except for their numbers and body shape would be so much cooler. That’s how I see Spartan IIs. Spartan 3-4s should have the different armors.
Best armor besides Mk. V imo.
It’s the best armor set
@@SpartanK9 If they would have made all the spartans in the show into 3s then they could have easily gotten away with showing their face and them being more "expressive." S-IIIs were partly known for that as you can see in Halo Reach. They also would have gotten way less backlash.
Mark 4 is hands down the best spartan armour change my mind
Jerome is the coolest and most stoic Spartans have been since Halo reach, man’s is just a baddie. I wish Halo Infinite was anywhere near as good as Halo Wars 2. They really had something there with that art style and cutscene direction that they just couldn’t redo for infinite. At least in my opinion!
Yeah Halo Wars 2 is peak halo design. Such good aesthetics and sounds. They really used the teen rating to its fullest extent and it never bothered me. On the other hand Halo infinite and Halo 5 really felt limited by the teen rating, Halo Wars 2 even without gore or anything had more maturity and serious language. Halo infinite shoulda been just like Halo Wars 2 but first person and on the slipspace engine.
The HW2 Banished artstyle is so good. It’s really brutal and scrappy, which makes sense because they’re basically a pirate faction run by clever monkeys. In Infinite, though, the vehicles are just red Covenant vehicles and the structures are just red UNSC structures. It doesn’t look good.
@@muyandos Huh? What do you mean? 343 copied the designs made from Halo Wars 2 and put it in Halo Infinite. I mean look at the Phantom. They are the exact same from both games but, at least from my perspective, the Halo Wars 2 Phantom shouldn’t of been put into Halo Infinite as it looks pretty ridiculous in first person.
@@dominator1914 They did not, the phatom maybe but the rest of vehicles are red covenant see side by side comparison between HW2 Wraith and Infinite Wraith, or the Ghost
@@semillakan6 The Halo Infinite Ghost actually doesn’t look like HW2 or the Covenant ghost. It’s really weird it’s more heavily armoured than the Covenant ghost but it’s doesn’t have the segmented armour style of the HW2 ghost. The Wraith though is even weirded. The Halo Infinite Wraith has the exact same design as the HW2 Wraith but the colouring is off. Like for some reason the Halo Infinite Wraith’s bottom half isn’t colored and is just silver unlike the HW2 Wraith which has a fully red and black paint job.
Any Spartan from any Halo games is better then the master Chief from the show
even palmer? :P
@@de_sherwin Palmer can get butt fucked by a mangy brute for all I care.
@@de_sherwin yes even her, she at least grows SOME character through out 4 and Spartan Ops.
I believe the character you're referring to is called Master Cheeks, for obvious reasons
*than
Having Jerome's helmet off revealing his face feels way more meaningful here because he isnt constantly taking it off every 10 minutes for 30 minutes
The simple task of taking off a helmet is supposed to be meaningful? What? Trying to find meaning in anything. Even something so simple as showing their face. It’s not meaningful at all and loses its meaning when you watch it more than once.
Hey dumb@ss that’s Douglas which you’d know if you actually consumed the media that you reee that you care so much about.
That wasnt jerome
@@TheTruth-13 Its meaningful because you remember he is a human under the helmet and it makes the urgency to save him more meaningful
@@Echo11720 it wasn't? Im pretty sure he had the strip on his helmet and armor
Red team is so badass. Especially when you learn that they failed augmentation and had to go into stasis till they could be treated and put back into service.
Damn, where can i read about this?
@@spartanzneverdie3211 Halo Fandom Wiki
It was only Douglas-042 and Alice-130 who initially had a bad reaction to augmentation. Jerome-092 however did just fine after Augmentation.
Ow, from what I remember, if you fail augmentation, you're basically living with your nerves exposed.
@@maxhydekyle2425 not true for all of them, some it out right killed, others it paralyzed, some they just didnt take and they were too damaged to be used, one of the crew members on cairo station was a failed augment if i remember right
@@ZergS4uc3 That doesn't really change the amount of pain they endured. I remember the paralyzed ones.
This is really why the Halo TV show should have been A) Animated. B) written by people who wrote for the Halo games. The Halo TV show as it is is a mess.
Edit: It has become clear that yes, it is in another time-line. But it doesn't mean that the show is any less bad.
People who wrote for the Halo games. *Remembers Halo 5* D:
@@Kai-vo5zq there are obvious exceptions.
You obviously haven’t watched the show and all you’ve done is watched clips on UA-cam. It’s clear and obvious. “Is a mess” you only see what you’re capable of seeing. Your own messy life
@@TheTruth-13 For someone who's name is "The Truth" you are in serious denial that the show is garbage from the start. Good god it was clear from the trailer that they already messed up. The armor is wrong, the plot is way off, its like the whole thing takes place in a alternate time line all together. Its a complete and utter mess, prove otherwise.
@@DrManticGaming there’s nothing to prove, it’s clear to me that you haven’t watched the show and all you’ve done is watch clips.
The fact that you need me to “prove” the show to you is clear evidence that you haven’t watched the show. I have and I need no one to tell me anything about what I’ve already watched.
Continue to say what you like you haven’t watched the show. Anything you have to say about the show holds no weight and has no value. Just by the way you speak it’s clear and obvious you haven’t watched the show.
Now these guys are Marines. The TV show made the UNSC look like a bunch of pushovers.
Don’t forget REALLY trying to make them look evil and the Insurrectionist sympathetic
@@bigbadbob7070 exactly
@@bigbadbob7070 exactly despite only one side nuking civilian cities and it wasn't the UNSC doing it.
Besides the UNSC already had it's totally evil parts like ONI, so just making the entire thing evil is beyond stupid as it robs it if the far more interesting moral dynamics of the various groups making up the UNSC.
@@NinjaTyler TBF, I can only recall two instances of nukes being used, and actually the first recorded instance was done by the UNSC on Far Isle but we really don’t know what happened there with the second being done by a particularly extremist Innie cell.
Doesn’t make the crimes of the innies any better, but the conflict was rather gray and the CMA and UEG didn’t help things calm down.
jerome is the only who can be side by side to mc the other one was noble six but he's dead :c
*MIA ;)
@@Hunter-rr5ue xd
You spelled in a cave wrong
6 lives!
@@dannywayne311 o.o
Lol when the effects of a game look more realistic than the show
A show that supposedly has 10 million an episode too
I didn't know this was Halo Wars and when I saw the spartan's face that's when I realized this is animation and not film, fucking insane
wasn't the blur animation cost like a million a minute though, still doesn't excuse paramount's shitty effort considering that they are one of the giant film companies.
@@tatotaytoman5934 Closer to like $50k per minute of footage iirc.
@@bable6314 oh, so they could have commissioned a shorter length series with the show budget, which would have been 1000x better
3:40 Okay, who wouldnt want a theme park ride like Star Tours where you get to witness a POV of a Spartan skydiving?
Shut up and take my money
@@Aredel Isabelles' "oh Shit" followed by laugh of excitement was epic
Legendary - Master Chief in a Mint Blitz video.
Heroic - Master Chief in the books.
Normal - Master Chief in a multiplayer game.
Easy - Master Chief in the TV series.
👌🏻😂
No master cheif in the TV series is at game journalist level.
Tiki Tong is right
Nah, Normal is Master Chief in the cutscenes, Easy is Master Chief in a multiplayer game, and Journalist Mode is Master Chief in a bad fanfiction. Master Chief in the TV series is just a bunch of ABC blocks stacked in the shape of a person.
Honestly, if they were to cgi with blur cinematic like this for the TV series or made something like this instead. I wouldn't be made at that. Nor anyone else at least.
Bruh blur guys are where it’s at
their last cinematics are titanfall and halo wars 2 awakening
You have no idea how expensive these things are. Blur is top notch and they're literally THE most expensive company to make animations
These 4 minutes were more halo than the billion dollar TV show that just launched
I see Jerome as the only best replacement for MC in the “Halo” (Game) franchise because one Steve is most likely done with Chief. And I think it’s time Chief has some time away (until at least we have a good replacement for Steve) and Jerome and Red team are still decades younger because of being in Cryo for so long. So If 343 does another Halo game with a Spartan II as Main Character it better be Jerome, Alice or Doug! But Jerome fits the Bill more because he’s a really good, natural born leader similar to John.
No doubt, and I know he already has an A.I but I’d like to see him get paired up with The Weapon if they do go this route
Steve Downs hasn't indicated that he's done with Chief, and he's still doing Halo infinite.
i swear. i cannot go through a comment section on a halo video without spotting people spouting the fact that steve downs "retired". he retired from radio my dudes, and 7 years ago too. and people somehow after having still voiced within those 7 years after the "retirement" announcement still think he is done with chief, it's very funny.
@@septemberstarlight9362 Steve isn’t as young and it was stated this is the last Halo Game with chief for the next 10 years there is going to be campaign add ons. But we don’t know if that’s gonna stay. And I didn’t say Steve retired I said he’s most likely done with Chief so don’t try to twist my words. I was just stating if they do a game with a Spartan II and it isn’t chief it better be Red team. Because Jerome in my honest opinion is the next best leader for the Spartans he’s not as great but is definitely capable to pull off what chief can do.
@@prufan never said he was done said “most likely done” it’s a speculation. And an idea of what they should do if he is.
Every spartan II is a better Chief than master cheeks
You do realize that cheif is also a spartan ll right, also where did the name master cheeks come from?
@@Suguru_Geto69 the show
@@Suguru_Geto69 Episode 3 of the show. "Chief" goes butt naked hence Master Cheeks
@@Suguru_Geto69 they’re children. Being on the internet you can forget how many kids are commenting.
@@TheTruth-13 have you not seen the show with his cheeks out? That's where Master Cheeks come from
Honestly, Jerome and Isabella are such an underrated duo in the franchise. Like just from watching these clips you can feel how they went from strangers to partners and it’s amazing how much they bounce off each other, and through that keep a different dynamic than Chief and Cortana
That scene of him facing down the charging brutes gave me some chills. Nothing I love more than a good “grit your teeth and hold your damn ground” moment
Goosebumps when Jerome hops off that warthog
Probably the best 5 second scene ever
Atriox could've snapped Alice's neck and tear out Douglas' arm, right there, right then
Yet he didn't
What stopped him? ("plot" sure, but I bet there's something else to it)
Yeah and he could've done the same thing to master chief during Halo Infinite Intro. I guess letting go spartans is his kink, lol.
Atriox seems to be way too cocky, thats what gets him killed at the end probably.
He has not met any Spartans in combat before HW2 scene, only heard stories. Probably though those are just some lesser weak fighters making up stories about Demon achievements.
If he keeps playing with his food like that, he will realize Demons are not food, but instead killer-sharks, who he has only met out of their natural hunting environment. On open field Atriox would get clapped hard by a Spartan.
@@JP-gg8nv actually if I remember correctly Atriox was part of a group called Blood Stars, which the covenant made to hunt down Spartans, they were trained by the silent shadows, they got a lot of info about Spartans but the time they were sent to kill a team of Spartans the leader died and the covenant disbanded the Blood Stars, but Atriox has seen a Spartan in action before HW2
@@JP-gg8nv actually
He'd Clapp em and you need arby cheif and red team along with plot to get rid of him
I can absolultyebsee him being that tough
He might as well be a natural spartan which is just hmng
I think him being able to take on 3 s2s was bs tbf, even if he has power armour it only increases his strength, he has no helmet so why didn't they headshot him and keep at range since he's clearly a huge brute with a gravity hammer, going for cqc is obviously unnecessary risk against a stronger, larger armoured enemy with a powerful melee weapon when you can just shoot their unarmoured head
I imagine the banished lost quite a bit in that Archer barrage. They are anti capital ship missiles so the amount of explosives in them would probably be enough to level anything caught in the blast and the shock waves would send stuff flying
The writing, the art, the cutscene and pacing is just pure perfection especially the spartans, they really manage to show the stoic yet heroic and pure balls of steel bravado they have combined with the A.I being this quirky it’s just perfection
The smooth-as-butter ‘move up’ signal from Jerome always makes me smile.
You can really tell they’re are the best of the best and damn near telepathic with one another.
Master Chief wasn't the best skilled Spartan nor the strongest.
He was just the most charismatic and with unending piles of luck.
Pardon me, just an old fan of the original novels.
if you're a fan of the original novels, then pretty much everything starting with halo: reach must have been absolute torture for you haha. the very essence of HALO has changed so much. but I will say, Halo wars 2 cutscenes are the closest we've gotten to the original trilogy of novels in all that time.
Hey can you tell me where did you read halo novels? Do we have to play games to have the full story?
I would very much like to read the original novels
@@oonyyplaysrpg Have a search for 'Halo: The fall of Reach' by Eric Nylund. A great read that one. 'Halo: The flood' the story covers the events of the Halo ring is ok. 'Halo: First strike' and 'Halo: Ghosts of Onyx' are excellent reads... both written by Eric Nylund. 'Halo: Contact Harvest' by Joseph Staten (one of the creative leads on the original Halo games) is also an alright read.
@@oonyyplaysrpg And if you wanna know about the Forerunners then there's another 3 books on that one. Usually called the "forerunner trilogy"
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 read the forerunner trilogy dude the wording I'm it is so grand
I've never seen Halo Wars 2's campaign before, this looks fucking awesome, I really should watch all of it.
Imagine if Infinite had something like those giant scenes or UNSC vs Banished battles instead of the UNSC and marines literally being irrelevant for the entirety of the campaign apart from being on the "100% completion checklist" and razorback weapons.
Whats amazing is that in halo wars 2 the spirit of fire and the spartans weapons and armor are so outdated yet they still kick ass
@@shadowandtheabyss543 and the Spirit of Fire lasts longer than the Infinity in a naval battle. Because plot.
@@Aredel You are comparing two very different situations.
Infinity got ambushed by 4 ships at the same time. It was a full force attack and Atriox was out for revenge.
In Halo Wars however it was just a salvaging crew. A small fraction of what Banished is capable of.
Hell, they were not even taking UNSC seriously at the time.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 with access to a Covenant capital ship, a ship that can, as we saw in Halo 2, scythe a UNSC cruiser clean in half with a single pulse from one of its lances. Atriox was already kicking it into gear when he attack the Spirit of Fire directly; there’s no reason he wouldn’t obliterate it as soon as they posed even a minor nuisance.
I felt that way too, the campaign felt so weird
I remember being absolutely amazed at this scene when I first saw it, a nerfed reaugmented washout throwing elites and brutes around like rag dolls
We need a first person Halo Wars like game
ya, maybe call it like, i don't know. Halo!
@@UncertaintyLaw he means the massive battles between the UNSC and the enemy. The only thing that’s close is the desert mission from Reach
@@CMTechnica the spire?(it's been a long time since I played)
@@Bladerunner5146 yep that one
dudeeee a battlefield styled halo game would be fucking crazy think of all the cool potential and shit it could do lol *hijacks a banshee from orbit and crashes it into a scarab* but nah frfr
Give blur studios the budget they gave the TV show
Dream scenario.
Show is a total waste of money and at the point just watching clips I hate that dude's face.
@@UA-camCensors "oh a cool Spartan scene finall-ooh they ruined it with a close up helmet shot of him yelling like a lunatic....and then again 5 seconds later ...and again after that..."
@@NinjaTyler the show even ruined his quiet personality lmao the writers are even bigger joke than the people who watch it
Man I wish this would happen! An hour or so movie following maybe an ODST squad or the early battles of the human covenant war.
@@Teopae How about Johnson's team during First Contact?
i love the idea of spartan 2s gaining an attachment to ai companions,also i find it amazing how spartan 2s are like the Tiger tanks of halo
I havent even played(but watched the cutscenes cuz they feel real good to watch) but Isabelle's terrified little "Wait, nono-" scream that turns into a laugh gets me every fuckin time. Her feeding off the high of being inside a Spartan and feeling everything he's doing for the first time is palpable. The animators, writers and VAs fuckin KILLED it
I can’t get over how good these cutscenes look
Something neat i noticed is that when Jerome first retrieves Isabel, he never plugs the chip into his helmet cause Mark IV suits were not AI compatible, but after they retrofitted the suits with Gen 2 hardware he was able to plug in Isabel’s chip to his helmet
You know this show could be A LOT better if their "Master Chief" was simply an original new character to the series; that would have significantly (in my eyes at least) controlled more of the damage that this show has in how it handles the license. Like the main character not being John 117 but rather a original new character would have been more logical with how different he is from the lore...
I mean, the simple solution would have been to make a Halo adaptation and not a Mass Effect adaptation. Or, skin the show like Mass Effect, call it Mass Effect, and watch the money rake in.
It’s hard to believe that Red Team were considered to be the rejects of the spartan II program.
Even Spartan IVs are better than Master Cheeks...there i said it
And what you said is meaningless
@@TheTruth-13 and so is what you say lol
I have to agree, Chief’s legacy in the show has been desecrated. Makes me look back to spartan IVs in Spartan Ops and think they were masterfully written🥲
@@TheTruth-13 Your username is really ironic
@@ghostlyblue5735
He's secretly the prophet of truth reincarnated to support a crap show.
Can we Just Get a Game About These 2? It's the Same Dynamic We're Familiar with, and It's already WORKING.
I would love a game or an expansion based solely on him. I'm hoping Jerome shows up at some point in the near future
I'd love to see just a full show/series or even multiple movies of content just like this, i wish more games did this, so many good cinematics that we basically get a full movie with just the cutscenes.
Ngl man really want a halo game where you play as Jerome not a strategy game but an FPS it’d be sick but I doubt it’d be received very well
Halo Wars 2 was received well last time I heard? This would be sick tho!
It's incredible how much better this looks than the TV show and it came out before the show
I hope we do see more of Red Team. I want to see Jerome and Chief catching up like bros, interacting with Blue team. Maybe he can take up the mantle have his own game, would be neat too. Its gonna be a long time before we get even a chance of them maybe showing up, but it is one story thread kinda just hanging loose, ripe for potential tho.
God, I love the fact that S2s just don’t need parachutes or Jetpacks and can fall from space without giving a shit
Such amazing cutscenes and great voice acting too
Man I'd fucking KILL to get an FPS Halo Game where you play as Jerome on the Ark with Isabelle in your head.
Jerome deserves to be made a hyperleathal Spartan alongside chief and six
The best part about these scenes is that Jerome and Red team did all of this in outdated Gen 1 Mk IV armor.
Jerome is Second in pure epicness to Halo 2 Chief
Ehhhhh tied with Six. The Spartan, not the sixth place.
Jerome is so fucking badass man. Unapologetically humble too.
This game has too much potential to be used as an RTS alone. There should have been an FPS installment of this and he would have been loved as much as John or Noble team.
That opening cutscene forever legendary axtriox just destroys 3 Spartan 2’s like nun
Hopefully one day we get a game where you see all 7 of the Spartans from Blue and Red teams on the battlefield at the same time, would definitely be a sight to see
Plus Jun, for good measure. Make it an even 8.
4:02 Single most badass entrance I've ever seen. That's how you bring the heat!
This one clip is better then all of the halo show
I really hope they red and blue team reunited. Maybe as a dlc or an animated movie.
4:28 Steroid Spartan
3:15 She must've said "Flame on!"
Instead of master chief being the protagonist for once, I would absolutely love to see the spirit of fire crew in a first person halo game. Specifically before forge dies.
I love in HW2 and H2A how Blur Studios created on-screen cinematics with Spartan's fighting at speed and moving and not make it look corny and god awfully headache inducing.
How 343i's TV Paramount production did it was absolutely fucking nauseating!
Why is this scene 2:42 so badass? :O
Spartans jumping from orbit will NEVER get old
Honestly I only wish they'd stop cutting to chief's face whenever a fight happens. Its SUUUPER jarring and made me laugh way more than I'd like to admit
It's like iron man's inside helmet cam.
You say that like it’s surprising if something ever happened to Chief Jerome is the only acceptable replacement he’s literally a less depressed chief with a little more personality
It's cool that instead of giving up, Jerome, Douglas, and Alice tried again after failing to be a SPARTAN II. They're weaker than normal SPARTAN IIs
Also much of the arsenal in Halo Wars 2 for the UNSC are still kinda in the H2 era as such with the magnum being the civilian variant that was available in H2 rather than the H1 Magnum
Edit: the M6C was not a civilian version. It was a vehicle crew version. Sorry.
Did they really explain the difference between the two pistols in in-universe canon?
@@yampaamvs to be specific, there are 3 versions of the Magnum.
The M6C is the Halo 2 pistol and was issued to vehicle crew.
The M6G is the Halo 3 and Reach pistol and was issued to Armed Forces.
The M6D is the Halo: CE pistol and issued to Navy Officers
The M6H is what replaced all the pistols in Halo 4 and 5
There is a variant of the C that is used by ODST personnel as the M6C SOCOM
Pretty sure that they're not actually any weaker than any other S-II. I don't know where people get that information, but there's never been a source. They are washouts that got rehabilitated, but why does that mean they're weaker?
I wouldn't mind a spinoff game about Jerome and Isabel.
I would love to see a series about Isabel and Jerome it would be different yet so familiar
Once again kudos for Blur with these cutscenes, they have the art style and feel of Halo down.
if they wanted a spartan with more human aspects (besides humanising chief slowly through the games which is more than fine)
they shouldve gone with jerome, entertaining enough for a general audience but still in line with the stoic badassery the halo fans want to see. Also means less fans are offended by so many innacuracies as there is less media with jerome as the focus.
Exactly, it's like how they did The Mandalorian, same universe and timeline, just a new pocket of it with mostly new characters and shocker! It worked really well. The Halo games and books have proved you don't need Master Chief to be Halo, just needs compelling characters and fights, and have a gritty dark atmosphere with some humor and hope dashed in to combat the oppressive atmosphere
Yeah, literally chose Chief known for being one of the most stoic Spartans simply because of name brand recognition. So stupid.
4:02 might be one of my favorite cinematics. I love seeing the wall of marines and vehicles make a blockade, the red flare smoke covering the field as a tank is dropped, and then Jerome whips his warthog to the side, and jumps out like a badass. Jerome is an epic spartan.
Agree, that was sick
Someone also pointed out that snippet was representing UNSC forces in terms of lethality.
A squad of marines laying down cover fire. A warthog unloading their chain gun. A tank getting dropped and ready to deliver high-explosive shells.
And the calm, cool and collected arrival of a Spartan-II.
I loved the halo wars cinematic crazy they could do this easily for games but not the show I mean the shows good but damn who ever designed this they better be getting payed as they should BIG MONEY
ive always really liked the scene when he enters the teleporter room, really fun scene and how it was made.
I've said it once and i'll say it again Jerome is the PERFECT candidate to replace Chief if big man ever does die cause holy fuck he may not be a hyper lethal vector but he's got the skills to pay the bills for sure
It’s kinda genius how they froze Red Team in time so they could come out fresh and young years later.
Makes me wonder if that was always the plan.
@@shooterDisease considering they we're augment washouts who healed yeah I think they intended for that to be the idea lol
He may actually be a hyper-lethal vector, to be fair. He was never around when Chief and Six got that combat rating, because he was in cryosleep.
4:08 holy shit when he jumps of that warthog, epic every time!
wouldn't spartan Jerome have around the same experience with fighting the covenant compared to master chief? They're both spartan II's so even if Jerome was the main character for the TV show instead, he'd still have even harder time compared to when Halo wars 2 takes place (2559~). Based on my minimal thinking skills, doesn't the TV show take place around the time when reach fell too? I know, I know, a lot of questions... and probably very biased in the way to think, I'm also probably very wrong. If you want to murder me with words and point out every inconsistency I have said go ahead, I would like to know your opinion so i can learn a bit more.
Jerome has less experience yes but Ithink the way jerome sees it because elites are part of the banished there wasn't much difference to fighting them upfront since hes used to seeing them in the covenant plus jerome seems quick enough to change his fighting style when he first fights the brutes
Halo Wars 1 take place at the beginning of the war, and Red Team graduated late from the Spartan program, so by the time of HW1 they had less experience then the Chief would have, but not by much. After HW1, Red Team goes in cryo for 30ish years until HW2, so Jerome would have less experience than the Master Chief, but considering that they’re both Spartans it doesn’t make much of a difference.
@@filwilliamson9149 true only thing is the banished are tougher to deal with
Master Chief has more simply because Jerome has been in cryo for years while Chief was fighting the covenant.
Man, if Jerome would come as a dlc characters or even be the new master chief, would be really glad.
At least 343 did got right build this character, honestly most part of halo wars 2 as a hole.
This 4 minutes has a 100% of action and common sense and 0% of bullshit, not like "HALO: The Series". XD , ..
Ever since Halo Wars 2 came out I’ve always been ok with the idea of Jerome and Isabel being the new Chief and Cortana after that story ends
The halo show was literally made to make money they assumed by making it semi halo they’d draw in an easy and big early crowd and then slowly build a normal audience with the typical TV drama type shit on top of that to support the show/platform
It’s pretty obvious they don’t give a shit about Halo. The creators even said they didn’t read any of the books or play any of the games when making the show, which they were making based on said books and games. fucking hilarious
This was the best way to show Douglas face or better yet a Spartan II’s face, a brutal fight leaving him really injured.
atriox better then both spartans
He is a pretty cool guy
In the 5 scenes he’s in
My one thing I love about being oh lore accurate chief when he’s fighting the brutes while there being videos of him dodging gravity hammers and the. Jerome’s fight
tv series master chief isn't master chief.
He is thats his name you obviously haven’t watched the show. Or are you trying to say he’s not a created video game character. No he isn’t which is clear and obvious he’s not a video game
@@TheTruth-13 well he isn't canon masterchief so i think he identifies as master cheeks
Halo wars always got cinematic fight scenes.
I know there's like a 0% chance of this ever happening, but if they ever want to send Chief out with a bang in the games, Jerome would be a great character to continue the series with.
I think they are considering, because Jerome is mostly liked by the fans. But not sure how Chief will go out like retiring etc...
4:00 can we all appreciate the scene and the noise the tank makes when it drops!!
We can all admit the show could be better in general 😆
When the Covenant high council watched the first episode of the show: "it was heresy!"
Any in game spartan is a better master chief than tv show chief, even Locke