Top 10 JRPGs Everybody Loves But I Don't
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2018
- I'm not here to insult the games you love, I'm just here to share my opinion, as usual, as to why I don't love them like you do. That's all. All 10 games here are great, and I actually really enjoyed some of them.
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Chrono Trigger, FF6, and secret of mana had great music. Good music is so important when you're grinding
Finally someone that shares my appreciation for how important music is.
It also is the emotional core of the story. If a good tune kicks up at the right time it takes it to a new level.
Music is crucial in both games and movies alike I agree
you can always play music which ever you want so it doesnt matter
@@norman20100 Wow that was pretty dumb! You might as well play a different game then. Do you even get the point of music in games? I'm sorry for being rude, but that was so stupid...
Erick: I don't love Final Fantasy Tactics.
Me: Alright men, get the pitch forks.
Erick: I fricking love with all my soul, Chrono Cross...
Me: Put the weapons down men, he's an ally.
😂😂
Erick: ...but i don't love Chrono Trigger.
Me: Allright guys, bring back the pitchforks!
chrono cross was an amazing game with 1 massive flaw. it had chrono in its name. yeah the game has other issues, but none is as problematic as this one. to many people the fact that its the sequel to chrono trigger, will forever taint it beyond return.
@@marcosdheleno Cross' other major flaw is that it was never given any form of european release. 2020.........and still nothing.
hell, it took us here in the uk until 2010 to get a proper release of Chrono Trigger.
Tactics was my fave RPG for most my life.
Chrono trigger isnt great because of revolutionary traits but has one narrative with cause and consequence with a great pacing that really hook people with all its strenght.
It's the pushing man! Everything just flows so fluid. From the systems to the story itelself
I didn't care for the story in chrono trigger.
I'm here in defense of Skies of Arcadia. It's my favorite game ever and i have played hundreds. I do think the ideal time to play it is in your mid to late teens however it can absolutely be enjoyed as an adult too. It has such an optimistic and excited spirit of adventuring and finding your place in the world. The story is so fun all the way to the end. The characters are so lovable and diverse. The game is just oozing with charm. I think you need to play it longer than 5-10 hrs - the story is just warming up by then. It is a truly epic journey and an emotional experience that i will never forget. The ending brings a tear to my eye and a lump in my throat each time.
yeah the only thing that annoyed me sometimes was the absurd encounter rate, but it was such a great game it didn't bother me as much as it does in some other rpgs. i still kick myself for not holding onto my dreamcast and all the games i had for it, especially skies of arcadia and sword of the berserk. i really wish they'd do a remaster of arcadia on modern consoles, every time i hear it mentioned i want to play it again so bad.
Sounds like nostalgia reasons and not actually good game reasons. Because I played it and was bored out of my mind and I have beat 40+ jrpgs prior SoA.
Airship battles were the king of all RPG’s I ever played
I love that game, it's 1 of those rare gems that definitely needs a remaster, i would gladly pay good money for it.
@@Jack_80 Did you ever play the Gamecube version? I heard they cut the encounter rate down considerably in that version.
I think Skies of Arcadia is a great game, it has this grand adventure feel into it that non of the classic JRPG has since grandia (which is also amazing, specially 2!). I love the overworld map and i remember hunting for the special hidden islands which i though add to the wold of piracy and wonder. One of the reasons why Golden Sun was such a cool game is when it was reelease it was one of those moments where you've never seen graphics like that in a portable game type of deal. similar to what pokemon did to the old GBA. On top of that, the game is not bad.
i loved a lot of ps1 rpgs so i think the main reason i loved skies of arcadia is because it was the first next gen game of that type i played and there weren't many rpgs of this type on dreamcast, so i was really happy to have a really good one on there. i also liked that it offered a decent challenge, while my main flaw with many ps1 rpgs like ff7 is that they are far too easy.
I never really could get into grandia 2. G1 I loved, and finished.
Hey I agree with your comments, however Grandia 2 literally only came out like 2 months before skies of Arcadia lol, so kind of impossible to compare the two like they're from a different era.
@@trisonicbrandtech I thought skies of arcadia is a Sega dream cast exclusive title
The battle system held Ni No Kuni back from being an all time classic for me. Plus that platinum trophy was brutal.
It needed more action basis like the sequel
I found the mind reading in Golden Sun to be so amazing! I spoke to every NPC in that game for the mind reading alone. They would drop hints on where to find Djin, delve ever so slightly into the true thoughts of casual placeholder NPC's. Really made the world feel alive to me and was enough for me to play-through the game twice. I've only felt something similar from Star Oceans Private Actions and just love that level of detail to the characters thoughts and motivations.
Golden Sun 1&2 are 2 of my favorite jrpgs of all time. I think age when a certain game releases can have great impact. From your description of the timing of pokemon for you, I'd say I'm a few years younger. For me Pokemon released when i was in grade school, and was my first extensive romp in jrpgs. It had a pretty profound impact on the type of games i would favor in the future. Though i do feel like the series has lost a lot of it's charm, becoming pretty stale all in all, it is still beloved for me because it had that impact on me at such a young age. Likewise, Golden Sun dropped when i was in middle school and had a similar effect on me. I could take it anywhere on my new gba, it had insane graphics for a handheld game backed by an amazing soundtrack and even if the mechanics of battle weren't revolutionary, they were incredibly solid and required a certain degree of planning that I hadn't experienced on handheld at that point. There were secret bosses, special weapons that only dropped from specific mobs and had both positive and negative effects. The battle system with its core in the djinns, allowed you to mix and match elements on your characters changing their class and abilities they could use in battle drastically. The summons and their cinematic nature, also coming with the effect of putting your djinns on cooldown reverting you to a lesser class until they regenerate, requiring you to plan defensive turns just as readily as offensive. This is just the surface, the world was vibrant, the characters were charming, i could def go on haha. These are just some of the reasons i love GS, but again i do believe impact greatly depends on age and exposure. I was a kid born in a generation of handheld gaming and that game was def a heavy hitter for me.
I grew up on golden sun must've beaten 1 & 2 over 50 times my favorite games for Gameboy other than zoids legacy
Man you wrote 80% of I was thinking about Golden Sun, thanks a lot for loving the game as much as I do, and yeah, the secrets in the game, dropped items and the activation of their effects... oh god... everything at that point in my life... I think even now few games I can play and put them at the same level.
Same, other than Pokemon Yellow, Golden Sun was the first JRPG I ever played and I freaking loved it! I loved how you could use psynergy outside of the battle and affect the "real world". And on that note, the world of Golden Sun felt very "alive" to me, lots of characters, lots of towns each with their own characteristics
needs a switch release Skies of Arcadia
they did release grandia, so I guess SoA is coming.
OMG I would buy it straight! Even overpriced like Mario 3d All stars!
Watching your vids is like listening to someone i know. It's awesome cause i don't really have a lot of friends who are into gaming especially jrpg's
I liked the story of Ni No Kuni but i hated the battle system. I just didn't like having to recrut and boost monsters to fight for you. I would have prefered to do most of the fighting myself and the monsters to be an optional sidekick to use now and then.
That's how I feel about Pokémon.
I tried to like the game but just hated it! Felt like it was a little kids game and hated the whole battle system. I had to bail!
For Final Fantasy Tactics, here's a tip : Save your game and reload! Simple, really. You can also revive your characters with something called white magic and a phoenix down...
Other than that, I understand some of your choices. Strangely enough, I loved FF Tactics, but Tactics Ogre didn't stick somehow. I'll give it another chance later...
When I heard you saying "Golden Sun" you broke my heart man... to me that is with Legend of Dragoon the best RPG I played and I am still waiting whatever they give us from Camelot, remake, reboot, sequel, prequel... oh man =/
It's literally just one dude's opinion. Lmao
Dude you need to have a certain level of patience and plenty of spare time (like100+ hrs) to enjoy a game like tactics ogre
for someone who has a game like ragnarok tactics and hates tactics ogre, and ff tactics really blows my mind
No jrpg needs 100hrs. That only means it is mostly filler and uninteresting
@@civoreb Tell that to the Trails series each one of those games is long af.
@@huzefaharis7991 i have only beaten Trails in the sky 1. It took me 46 hours. You can go on howlongtobeat(dot)com and look up any game. It tells you how long each game takes.
This is true...
I love Skies of Arcadia. The turn-based ship combat, the exploration, the characters. You mentioned that you didn't know where to go - aimlessly wandering around in the skies is actually like a side quest in the game as you try to discover everything you can find in the world, and the feeling of flying freely in the skies is so beautiful. Not to mention upgrading your ship to the point where you can destroy anything hostile you may run into. The earlier parts of the game are pretty good about warning you away/restricting access to any areas you're not supposed to be in.
Chrono Trigger is one of the few games I replay regularly. The story, the characters, the translation, the scope of the game. The way everything fits together as pieces of a coherent puzzle. The way it earns every emotional moment, the emotional range, the way it turns RPG tropes of the time on their head, the way it makes your decisions matter and affect the world and even the story told, was revolutionary. The art style and music, to me, is the very best of the 16-bit era. I understand not everyone will have the connection to it that I do, having first played it as a teenager the day it came out in the US, but it is my very favorite RPG, and quite possibly my favorite video game, of all time.
For Skies of Arcadia Legends, the selling point for me was the airship battles. At the time I played the game it was an unprecedented game dynamic for me, and I had played quite a few games by that point including at least some RPGs. I also liked the hurricane dungeon that required you to travel through this almost Bermuda Triangle-like area. A lot of the appeal came from the various "discoveries" that you had to find throughout the game as well as the many crew members you had to recruit. I've played many more titles since but even today the game's airship battles is still a favorite.
You are a honest guy, honest to yourself. Even if i disagree with some of your choices, i respect that because it's your opinion. You deserve my like.
Couldn't agree with you more GhostFace, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If someone starts smashing you because you don't like a certain video game, don't let it get you down. The people that do that, they are just wasting time and a waste of space. No one has the right to do that to you.
@@robcharreviews5609 You said everything, my friend. I agree with you.
the battleship system in skies of arcadia is what makes it beloved by a lot of people !
That and the sky pirate theme world, and the story that starts off fast paced a bit like FF6/FF7, and small things like lining up a good alpha storm and see all the enemies health bars fall (not every RPG had health bars back then) or having alot of focus ready for a turn when you get many cannon bonuses. Firing the harpoon cannon was probably the most satisfying move in a RPG at the time.
The characters are the weak part of the game imo, not that they are bad but Grandia II has it beat there. Only Drachma is memorable to me since he has his own quest and doesn't just follow Vyse around. He acts cold but if you talk to the red haired street urchin later in the game he tells you that Drachma was watching out for Vyse during the colosseum battle like he was his son.
Another thing was the Moby Dick style theme with Drachma. His character and the arc whale were taken directly from Moby Dick just like Ayla in Chrono Trigger was taken as directly as can be from Clan of the Cave Bear given that the name was exactly the same: Ayla.
Kinda crazy that I started to like it when the system got more in depth, cause it first I absolutely despised the battleship system. It was just so goddamn slow and tedious without any sense of difficulty or challenge, but at a certain point I started to admire what the game was trying to do with the system and it made it a lot more enjoyable.
Damn trigger and ff tatics, right in my middle / high school nostalgia feels.
I just realized that I have the same guitar as you do! Same model and everything. I got it like nearly 20 years ago or something.
Good videos btw!
DQ8 is so good. It’s one of the first true open world jrpgs
I don't know what game you were playing but DQ8 is not open world you need to play through everything in a pretty specific order.
It feels Open World but it's not it's actually a very classic World Map system (a very beautiful one mind you) it gives you the impression of open world but it's not, heck the funny thing is that the 3 first Dragon Quest as well as the first Final Fantasy were probably more open games than DQ8.
To be honest true open world games tend to be very boring or not balanced very well for the amount of content to justify an open world setting. I find Dragon Quest's 8's approach good similar to why I like it for the old FF games in that it allows for good progression through the world and makes you feel like you're constantly exploring new places.
Hey I didn't say I like Open World (I don't like them at all in fact) just stated that DQ8 wasn't Open-World I to prefer an world like DQVIII, FFXII, Ys VIII ...etc... that open little by little when progressing through the story making it so that there is still a good amount to explore but come little by little instead of throwing everything right at the beginning.
I wasn't exactly disagreeing, I was just stating why I'm not a fan of open world games.
If anything I agree we you. Progressive content is more enjoyable and is more well designed instead of a large open field of nothing.
Kind of funny how everyone loves Chrono Trigger but hate Chrono Cross. I love them both and yes Chrono Trigger is the best RPG of all time.
Chrono Cross is NOT a sequel to Chrono Trigger. Apparently 2 different games
@@megaman1806 it's fit what sequel mean. it wrap schala and lavos arc. yeah it's different games. but honestly some sequel have different mechanic. and that's it.
people seem hate it because it different in battle system apparently, too many party member (despite saying suikoden, fft game masterpiece). and other petty thing like mia of chrono party. how the story is convoluted (like wth, many classics masterpiece story is convoluted ex: ff7 ,xenogears, etc). But if people already hate from the start, they will become petty and blame a very little thing ever.
tbh this phenomenon not only exclusive to chrono cross, ff 12 when come out get the same treatment. or any franchise that want to experimenting anything in that regard.
I just wish that there was more to explore in Chrono Cross. It seemed like such a small game exploration wise.
Trigger is fairytale, beautyful in its simplicity.
Cross is pretentious verbose mess of literally NOTHING, which rapes Trigger's legacy and 40+ wooden logs without personality instead of characters.
The question is, how anyone can love this game now without baby duck syndrome.
i don't think cross is that hated really. i like it but i think trigger is superior in almost every way. better story, better setting, better characters, better combat system. i was especially disappointed with the overly simplistic, boring combat in cross. i was expecting a similar combat system to trigger with added depth and instead they switch to this generic system that makes every character feel pretty much identical in combat because of the element grid.
Great list, thank you for sharing!
For me Skies of Arcadia is unique because of its awesome ship battles and its setting of pirates, geographical discoveries and so on. It starts as an your average JRPG, but then you open up many new interesting features. Atmosphere of discoveries and gathering your crew (and each of them has a personality and impact on battle system) is so rewarding! And you can have your own island later in the game with the ability to build and improve stuff (and the shipwrecked "quest" is one of the most unusual and interesting - you have to gather resources and make a campfire to survive the night). It also has a cute Cupil that evolves into different weapons, ship battles (I've already mentioned them, but they are just so great), many memorable characters (everyone in my family still remember them) and quite a good story with a mix of a drama and comedy. Random encounters are quite often and battles are tedious and sometimes boring (as soon as you master the Focus technique), that's for sure (and because of that I love Grandia II on Dreamcast better). But it is an interesting JRPG with some great ideas you can't find in other games.
Tactics ogre is one of my all-time favorites, but I had trouble with when I was first starting. The thing you have to realize is that the enemies are scaled to your average level. So if you have any over-leveled characters in the party they will drive the average up and make the enemies overpowered. So it’s a good idea to go in with characters who are all about the same level. Once you realize that, the game is challenging but not impossible. I urge you to give it another shot because i find it to be a very engrossing game.
I can feel the viewers urge to jump in with the "Nuh-uh the game of X was great because-" getting stronger with each game mentioned. Calm down everyone, it's an opinion video.
I felt the same way about “Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together”. It took me picking it up like 7 or 8 times before the battle system really clicked and I finally fell in love with it. The story is really good also. The battle system is so similar yet different than most SRPG’s and until you get the hang of it and understand it, the game is not enjoyable. I really loved the portrait artwork also.
Have you played Tokyo Xanadu or the remade one on the PS4? If not, it may be worth looking in to.
I have. Pretty solid game.
What set Skies of Arcadia apart from a lot of JRPGs at the time is its world building imo. The game has very deep lore and the world in the skies you're able to explore IMO is so rich and authentic feeling that to this day I've yet to see in very many games
My favorite JRPG's in no particular order: Final Fantasy VIII, Chrono Cross, Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga, Arc the Lad (all of them), The Legend of Dragoon, Thousand Arms, Wild Arms 2, Tales of Eternia (Destiny 2), Dark Cloud 1&2
Has nothing to do with the video and no one asked
@@smiller3967 did he say if someone asked?
i could never get into dark cloud, but i love rogue galaxy that was made by the same developers.
WOW! rare to see someone giving FFVIII some love, most people hated that one, personally.. I liked it also. I guess people were just expecting something better than what FFVII had given them and never go it.. so they just jumped on the bandwagon of hate.
I liked ni no kuni but....the battle system just murdered me....
I felt like I would quickly lose mp and then just run around in circles trying to survive by luck. I gave up because of this.
But otherwise I liked the game and still wish I could go back and finish it one day.
nano retro I felt the same way about Ni No Kuni!!! That’s why I’m looking forward to the sequel that comes out next week, it has a different battle system.
I used to think like that too. Until i lost my saved file (around 20 hours) and started a new playthrough 3 years afterwards, this time i paid more attention to the instruction and noticed it's not as simple as i used to thought. I wouldn't say i love the battle system, but it's much more enjoyable than my first playthrough
The ending sucks
erick ,did you play the last story by the way.i have never see a video talking about that game.
its a really good one
Yup, I loved it. In fact, I have a review of it on this very channel, but it didn't get many views, sadly.
Just out of curiosity have you played Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth Hackers?, I'm just curious to your thoughts on the game?.
i can feel your respect to people who love the games and the games itself even if they arent your cup of tea 🙂 even if you got some of my favorites in there i love to listen to your opinion, its interessting to see what people like and actually i think its cool that not everybody loves the same games
Skies of Arcadia is my top 5 JRPGs of all time.
Maybe you only have 5 games then.
Hey guys can you give me some hints about playing strategy rpg. I want to give it a try because i played fft wotl. But i dont like it. I played it around 2-3 hrs but i dont know why i dont find it interesting. Or maybe isnt my type of rpg? 🤔
I love the music he plays in the background, it brings back memories.
I will preface this with. I think it depends on when you play a game. Chrono trigger and FFT and tactics ogre LUCT. All came at a certain time in my youth. Chrono trigger is extremely nostalgic for me. If those memories were not attached. I don't think I would love it as much as I do.
Final fantasy tactics is my favorite. I am always comparing tactics games to it.
I understand why others don't like it though.
Also.. it really is simple. Don't let people you don't want to lose die. Seriously... I would replay whole maps when I royally fucked up. When I did lose someone not really important I would just try to finish fast, or hope for a crystal.
You often have this beautiful old stratocaster. Must sound great, I guess.
Me: “wwwhhhaaaaaaaaa”
You: “I can feel your right now” (talking about Chrono Trigger)
With that said sir, I see all your points for every game. I love almost every game on your list but I see every point you made, no hate from me. Your point of view, though prefaced with negative feelings came off positive and can’t get made when you speak from the heart man!
Great vid!
i don't get how you can love chrono cross but not chrono trigger. i like chrono cross but trigger had a better story, setting, characters, and especially a better combat system than cross. the combat system in cross is so simple, repetitive, and boring compared to the much deeper and more fun system in trigger. i still like cross a lot but to me it's inferior in most areas.
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You know you can resurrect death characters in final fantasy tactics right?
yeah you have phenix down or magic
I would reset if a character died. I was hardcore back then.
You know the corpse turn into crystal gone after 3 turns?
or just use main people who dont die for good : D
@@mooserocka522 umm no they can
Xenoblade??!
Well you opinion I respect it
I mean I get him, I also love Xenoblade and consider it as one of the best JRPGs that I played, but in the first 10+ hrs of the game, the progression is slow, especially on the battle system (arts were few and had longer cooldowns so you have to rely more on auto attacks, which initially turned me off on my very first hour of my first playthrough)
Seriously Bro! Skies of Arcadia is a masterpiece! Its universe, its artistic style, its combat system, its airship battles, and OMG its soundtrack!!! You really need to give it another chance! I agree for almost all other titles of your video. For DQ VIII, even if I loved/completed it on PS2/3DS, I get what you mean and you aren't the only one.
Xenoblade for Wii is one of the game I've played the most. It doesn't start as an epic game, but I really loved the open world, the day-night cycle, the music (my favorite part of a game), the story and even the predictable twists we've seen in so many games. I like how npcs are part of something you develop from time to time and the many subquests and even some of the late game boss fights. By the way I really understand and appreciate you Erick for standing on your opinions, it's really important to be truly passionate about something! Thank you, I really enjoyed the video!
To me FF6 is better than Chrono Trigger and I played both on the Snes.
But to choose the best JRPG is very hard for me. Cause there are good games coming out every year. I normally go towards the Tales of series or Star Ocean series. Then for SJRPG I love the Disgaea series for many reasons. I played so many. Also I can respect your opinion. Also I agree 100% on tactics ogre let us cling together. Never really like the Tatics Ogre series.
DQ 8 is my favorite RPG of all time!
I've only played dragon quest 8 and 11. I love both of them. The music, the characters, the battle system, and the open world map are all great for both games.
What about the music in chrono trigger?
Man, you shot down 3 of my favorites.
Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest VIII and every Pokemon game xD
Live and let live says I.
Lots of games on our list would also be on mine. We dont dislike them, we understand why they're important and even acknowledge how good they were for the time they came out, but yeah the claims of best of all time, and best rpgs ever are hard to swallow lol. great list man.
Thank you.
Am glad you chanced your opinion about some of those games 😁
Your comments are all over the place. Watching your previous videos about best jrpgs, with some of them from this video on that list. Either you like them or you don’t. I only came across your channel this week and watched many of your videos. Now I’m conflicted what jrpgs you actually like or not.
Xenoblade is a masterpiece for me. Maybe my favorite jrpg, maybe.
The ost, the world, the characters, the charm, the story. Just excellent in every area.
nano retro Same here. I just love how complex is the story, there is nothing with this magnitude at the moment...and I love how story is connected with XC2. OST is top notch, probably number 1 of all the time for me. And, God, this story...very special game to me. With rest of the games I agree (even CT, because Im annoyed by the fans, who bash Chrono Cross only because it's not a sequel they wanted, and I do think Cross is better game overall, my top 3 jRPG's of all time-probably next only to first Xenoblade).
tbh after Xenogears Xenoblade is ass so yeah it didn't live up to its firat game
I didn't love the game until I learned how to play as Melia. Now it's in my top 5 favorite games I've ever played
The only game I love more than the original Xenoblade is EarthBound. Top 2 games of all time for me.
Killah Los Xenogears and Xenoblade aren't the same franchise....they're totally separate....you're free to prefer Xenogears ( my sister is the same way ) but you really can't say Xenoblade didn't live up to a game it has nothing to do with and wasn't trying to be.
Wasn't gonna comment until what u said about chrono trigger...😥u even got the cross poster man...:'( lol
Haha thanks xD
Good video and good to hear your perspective.
I feel like the reason why Chrono Trigger is usually in the top 10 if not top 1 of many RPG lists is because it was very impressive for the time it came out, along with the Toriyama designs. The time travel story and the amount of worlds you would traverse were also a big reason for the love. Also nostalgia...lots of it.
Hell, I would even consider it one of the best JRPGs ever made, yet maybe not THE best. I can see why you love Cross and not Trigger, especially since you only played it on the PlayStation.
I enjoyed Skies of Arcadia a lot. I played it on release, and it felt to me like the last great game on the Dreamcast, so I have fond memories of it. Given, there were some parts where it seemed pacing was an issue. I really like exploration and the ship battles, so that's a big reason why it appealed to me. I also felt like they put effort in to the puzzles.
Take out the nostalgia and/or historical value from Chrono Trigger and it's just a "good" JRPG. I understand the reasons behind its greatness, but as a game itself, there's nothing extraordinary for me. For others? Yes, I'm pretty sure, but not for me.
I agree with some of them (I've never been interested in Pokemon, for example), but Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are two of my favorite RPGs ever. I wouldn't say it was the first great SNES RPG, nor would I say it revolutionized storytelling, only it's overall execution was what makes it remarkable. Everything put together was what made it great. The music, characters and story. And I have to say that the music plays an integral part, the way certain songs revisit the main theme to make everything feel connected through time. Same with Cross. They are extremely charming. This is similar to why I consider Phantasy Star IV one of the greatest as well, the charm of the whole PS IV package is huge. Something to consider though is that I played these games when they originally released, but I still feel the same after numerous times replaying them throughout the years since then. Thanks for the video, always interesting to hear others' opinions of loved games!
Dragon Quest VIII is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm sure a bit of it is down to nostalgia, and I haven't played it in years, so if I came back to it now I might not enjoy it so much, I don't know. Ni No Kuni is like a far more childish and simple version of DQ VIII, so I kind of agree with you there. Saying that, I did enjoy Ni No Kuni, but fuck all the hand holding.
Not sure if it fits in the same genre, but one game I didn't enjoy much was Okami. For many reasons, but the little imp/fairy was a big one. So damn annoying!
I'm just playing 8 for the first time (never played DQ at all though) and I think its great
U should give 1 More chance to Tactics ogre and all ogre saga in general
Marco Ochoa I agree. It doesn’t really pick up til the end of chapter 2. Plus many branching paths and the replay value is sky high.
How long have you been playong guitar dude?
Since I was 12, but I still suck at it. That's why I quit being a musician.
Haha heck ya. Was just wondering man.
I know the exact part of Skies of Arcadia you’re talking about. It’s exactly where my play through ended on Dreamcast back in 2001. I tried picking it back up several times over the years and just never figured it out. I remember supposedly having to be in some exact spot or something to find something. I dunno, that and the slow pace just killed it for me.
Hi Erick.
Excellent list. I can see your point of view on many of these titles, but now its on to the criticism lol
I can't speak for everyone, but for me what made Golden Sun so beloved was the variety of environmental uses of the psychic abilities, and the surprisingly deep class system based on which Djinns were equipped to each character.
Tactics Ogre is essentially Final Fantasy Tactics with critical path options, which serve to give the narrative extra weight for players, and while the skill system certainly isn't as exploitable as the FF job system, it allows you to make very powerful characters with a singular focus, which I enjoyed, but I know its not for everyone, even among SRPG fans.
And I agree wholeheartedly about Chrono Trigger, as its seen as a "perfect" game due to nostalgia goggles.
I personally think its a great game, but I regularly criticize my friends for calling it perfect because that can only be said on a surface level due to the technicality that there are no flaws to point out, but it doesn't excel on any level other than in its soundtrack and visuals for the time.
Keep it up!
Thanks!
I think something we don’t recognize enough is the fact that a lot of our favorite games are favorites because we played them at the right time. Some games just don’t hit the same when played 10-20 years later, especially if you have a different set of benchmarks and experiences to compare them to.
So true
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Hi Eric. Really enjoy your videos. I had a similar problem with the original Xenoblade. I was in love with the story, but utterly overwhelmed by the battle system, the damn gem slots/crafting etc. Got stuck in the ether mines and dropped it for a long time. A year or so later, gave it another shot, forced myself to read the tutorials and ended up being one of my favorites. I still feel like the battle palette is clunky and overwhelming, but worth the struggle. Hope you revisit it someday.
Subscribed, I'm surprised I wasn't already, I watch your videos all the time
Skies of Arcadia is really good game, the pirating, sky battle, open world exploration that is rewarded, VMU side quest, story is way better than many other jrpgs, crew recruiting, ship customizing. All these are quite unique for this game that is very hard to find at it time, even big game FF9 which released same year didn’t have these features. To summarize Skies of Arcadia is one of those unique, great games.
I see.
Skies on ps4
still trash lol sorry rogue galaxy whoops that game
I can't believe you don't like Xenoblade :( I love it with all my heart.
I'm sure he loves a game you don'k like as well.
I own the Gamecube version of Skies Of Arcadia (I have never played the Dreamcast version), I loved it quite dearly. For me holds such nostalgia and is absolutely the best game on Gamecube in my personal opinion and one of the top 10 greatest Jrpg ever created for me.
I really enjoy most of these games when I was younger. I can understand most of your opinions. Thank you for sharing your opinions. I need to go find your JRPGs you loved but others hated.
The battle system of Chrono Trigger is simple and complex at the same time.
This happens mainly because of the way area of effects work (lines, circles, etc) rewarding you for waiting the right time to use a skill and, also, double and triple techs are simple to understand but add a lot of depth to the party you are currently using. This creates a rewarding experience that is not overly complicated (unlike, say, FF6).
The story told is very good and the characters evolve with the narrative, which is not true to the vast majority of jRPGs of the time. I mean, I love Secret of Mana, but the character development is almost 0.
I believe the only title from that era that rivals the history/party evolution of Chrono Trigger is FF6 (and I played the vast majority of the jRPGs from those times, gotta love emulators).
See, that actually sounds like a pretty fair look at its gameplay. I like Chrono Trigger myself, but I never really understood all the people talking about how it's so "revolutionary" for some of the things it did, like time travel. How? The time travel is basically a glorified method of accessing other world maps (something Final Fantasy IV and I'm sure many others have done before), and the most that things in the past can actually affect things in the future is using a trick to get two sets of particular items from treasure chests (via one of the only locales in the entire game that appears in more than one time period), while the rest of the time you're just following a story which is itself extremely linear (though I will give them props for having multiple endings depending on which point in the game you decide to take on the final boss, which is possible to do very early and even earlier in a New Game+, though multiple endings weren't exactly a new concept either). The combo attacks is another thing it gets praise for, but I also doubt that's never been done before (one example that pops to mind being the twin mages in FF4, albeit a more simplified version). New Game+ was pretty cool, though, and I don't think much if any games were doing it before Chrono Trigger (and it's somewhat rare to see even now, which is a real shame; given how freakishly long RPGs are, plus all the level grinding you need to do, it should be standard to let us re-play through the story with all levels and non-key equipment left intact).
@@YamatoFukkatsu the combat system in trigger is a lot deeper than it is in cross. in cross every character feels pretty much the same because of the stupid element system. i still like cross a lot but i think trigger has it beat in just about everything.
@@YamatoFukkatsu excuse me, FF IV has time travel? Care to explain that one? I played FFIV and didnt see the party traveling to the past / future.
@@Castapher I didn't say that. Look at my post again, I stated that FF4 has multiple world maps. That's the comparison I was making.
@@YamatoFukkatsu Understood. I was about to say that the past changes the present (treasures and even world maps gets changed, depending on what you do in the past) Such as, in the medieval time Robo stays behind at the Church and cultivates the land and when you return back to that same place in the present, you notice theres is now a forest where before it was just a lifeless piece of land.
Basically this was a novelty back then. Oher games can provide different maps, but these maps are just different places. In CT, they are the exact same places that one can modify the other depending what you do in the past. I only wished CT could let you play and progress "new game+ story" for the "saved" future map and see how the cities would like if you defeated Lavos in the present/past. Bummer :(
The best jrpg ever made is Dragon Quest 7. Second is Grandia
Wow.... That's what I was thinking! Well said!
it took me a few tries to get into grandia, it just seemed way too kiddy and silly in the beginning. once i did get into it i did enjoy it a lot, but it still wouldn't make it into my top 10, there are just way too many amazing rpgs that top it for me.
What can I say about Skies of Arcadia? Although I admit it has its flaws, it's one of the most incredible journeys I've ever been on in a video game. The game takes you on an adventure, where you - the player - feel like you are out sailing the skies, discovering the unknown. That frontier spirit is so strong that it makes you genuinely excited to go out and explore the world to find all of its secrets. It does such a great job of building up the obstacles in front of you that you feel a sense of accomplishment when you finally surpass them (for example, the prison break section in Valua or sailing through the dark rift and making it out alive). No other game has ever made me connect with its world in that way, even to this day. Hopefully I've been able to do the game justice. I think most people who love Skies of Arcadia will agree that that is why the game is so special to them.
Is the Digital Edition of FF9 the FF 9 remaster?
“I love JRPGs” hates the Dragon Quest series.
11 is actually good, but even 5 and 8 are....just.....average.
I love RPGs, and I have no use for most of Dragon Quest. So what?
He actually loves DQXI prolly the only DQ game he rates very highly.
Out of all these games, I somewhat agree with DQVIII, in that I liked it, but was never blown away by it. I simply thought it was a nice classic style JRPG, but nothing amazing. I strongly agree with Ni No Kuni, though. I played about 12 hours, and while nothing got me confused or really bothered me, the game simply never hooked me and I quickly got bored and just moved on to other games. I preordered the sequel, though, because it looks more interesting, so hopefully that works out better for me. I disagree with FFIV. It's not my all time favorite JRPG, but it's certainly one of my favorite SNES games. Same with Chrono Trigger, except it is my favorite of its period, and I found it to be very breezy and charming in every possible way, while Cross never quite hooked me in.
Tales of Symphonia is so bad, but people love it.
19:44 I thought that was earthbound and secret of mana?
:)
I definitely would not consider DQ8 to be the best Dragon Quest. I would choose DQ7, but I still think that the DQ series is just not for you although you should give DQ11 a try when it comes out
Once I get a PS4, I will.
Dq7 is so frigging long I'm at 100+ hours
It also comes out for PC on Steam.
they all suck tbh to chilfdish Tooooo childish same with the mana Gay series rather play Lunar
Final Fantasy 4 (or 2 on the SNES) was the game that made me really fall in love with RPGs. Final Fantasy Tactics is IMO, the best game in the series. The permadeath just made things interesting. I actually agree with you on Chrono Trigger. I tried that when it first came out and put it down out of boredom, never to pick it up again.
That's cool man.
I'm not really a fan of Pokemon style games myself. But I understand there importance since I see a lot of my cousins play them and I see a lot of friends at school that play them as well .
So I respect them and why they appreciate that series.
I also agree with other stuff since I keep discovering RPGs that I've never heard of almost every single week.
Final Fantasy Tactics was hard for me but when I got the hang of it I was in love.... I did hate my characters dying but had to try to keep them alive and revive them.... Strategy man..... Lol
I actually think almost all snes jrpgs are extremely basic and prototypical. And in comparison chrono trigger really stands out (for an snes game).
Even FF6's battle system just completely underwhelms me with the lack of animation and music.
Honestly I prefer the ps1 era of jrpgs because I think they took the genre to the next level.
I like how you slog through so many hilariously arduous games for the hidden gems/hidden trash series but then you have so much trouble getting through or liking much much smoother experiences.
I can see why someone wouldn't be blown away by FFIV or Golden Sun 1 (had the benefit of being one of the only worthwhile RPGs on its system for a bit and leading into lost age). I have similar thoughts on the DQ series that seems to keep afloat off nostalgia, music and Toriyama's designs. I can understand being annoyed by open-world systems. Ni no Kuni also was considered to be riding on the presentation by a lot of critics.
But then you dislike Tales of Symphonia, Chrono Trigger, FFT and Skies of Arcadia? It boggles the mind.
Especially considering CT is like a 25 hour RPG max.
Does anybody know whats puckeymon is? Hehe
If you've got time to spare, the guy in this video does a phenomenal job at breaking down the Chrono Trigger storyline:
ua-cam.com/video/_JoPAn_dbr0/v-deo.html
He breaks the story down into two timelines (original and modified) and he really shows the connection the two have and how your influence changes from one to the other. It really uses the time travel mechanic better than any game (and most other media) out there. I also find it incredibly interesting how it mirrors Earth's history (dinosaurs were killed by a meteor giving humans dominance, man survived the ice age by primarily living in a high tech city in the sky, medieval ages of the 1000s, and the end of the world- Y2K, etc).
This is the video I point to when my friends, who all know my love for JRPGs, ask me why I hate this channel, refuse to subscribe to this channel, and immediately tell UA-cam to stop recommending (which I otherwise don't bother with). Of course, this video COULD be a 4D troll video, but I doubt it. This is one of the few times where I will state that someone's opinions (yours) are factually incorrect. One only needs to read some of the other replies to understand why.
But hey, got me to reply, enjoy those extra pennies!
I’m getting to that point, a lot of his recommendations on his other videos are just flaccid, flat, and dry JRPGs.
He just doesnt love these games
X2 He Just want to be edgy
Was hoping to see Secret of Mana on the list.
I've only played it for a few hours, so I couldn't really talk properly about it.
GamerBill
Am I the only one who find Secret of mana freaking boring ?
Nope. It's also the only installment in the series that needlessly has the stamina meter if I remember right.
GamerBill
Yeah ,way to kill a gameplay
You find it boring because of the fact that you have dedicate time
@Erick Landon RPG. If you can't finish FFT, then I would suggest watching and reading through the story on UA-cam. There are so many twists, turns, backstabbing, deceit, misdirection, you name it.
I admire your courage putting Chrono Trigger as your number 1 on this list (or having it on the list at all for that matter haha). I love these videos because everyone has their favorites and I appreciate that you share yours. And while I disagree having it on this list, well done sir.
I’m gonna help you out on two of these, and you’ll thank me one day! But first I have to agree, Dragon Quest 8 is NOT all they make it out to be... it bored me to absolute *tears* at times!!
So. For Tactics Ogre, the PS1 version is entirely different in its battle mechanics, and a lot more accessible. But you need to know one trick: ALWAYS KEEP THREE WITCHES. Always. You need to use their elemental spells to manipulate enemies’ who deal certain elements with their spells. If you’re gonna play the PSP version, USE THE BRADYGAMES GUIDE. Seriously. It requires it imo.
And as for Final Fantasy Tactics, the trick is to give all your dudes auto-potion, then eventually sell all potions that are not high or above. Then eventually switch to keeping only x and above. If you do that method, plus keep a summoner for healing and plenty of time magic, you should be golden. I never have people die with these defensive strategies unless I’m being very reckless. Also, you recruit sooooo many special characters that eventually you run out of slots for very many generic ones. (Red chocobos are OP.) The PSP FFT sucks imo. The PS1 version is tops.
I enjoy your videos and opinions! I hope this can help you to be able to appreciate those games. Before I figured out these things, I was in your same boat. Now, they are two of my favorites!
Thank you. I really need to give FF Tactics a second chance, no doubt about it.
8 Bored you? What does Dragon Quest 7, killed you to boredom? 8 is "yeah whatever" but 7 is "GOD IS THAT BORING"
Skies of Arcadia!? Noooooo! That game WAS a masterpiece. You never played the whole game. It really picks up and keeps getting better. The exploration was so so good as well as building your own base. I LOVE the two antagonists as well. Ramirez’s music is in my top 5 villain theme musics. You are missing out by not playing the whole thing. Use a walkthrough if you dont know where to go. Agree with ni no kuni though. Too much grinding and bad battle system. Also, Xenoblade Chronicles? Eh? AND Chrono Trigger!!?? Well.... FFT you say? It is one of the best games ever mate... It’s tough but tremendous. Wiegraf anyone? Respect your opinions though. 👍
Skies of Arcadia was such an underated gem. I wish there could have been a remaster for the ps4.
I've always wanted to play skies of Arcadia it reminds a little of Grandia 2 graphic wise and that's one of my favorite games
When are you going to talk about Monster Rancher and Digimon games?
How old were u when u played final fantasy II? I personally LOVE it cuz its nostalgic and the first time i played it from FF on nes to this. It was surreal. Best game ever! The graphics were amazing. Carpet in castles were nicely done and pretty. Remember, I played this right after beating the first one. BTW i played ff2 in the mid 90s.
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Dragon quest viii is the best rpg on the ps2 how dare you sir
Agrenost shadow hearts
Smt Lucifer’s Call
But Ps2 was just the best in general
Omg I also can’t get into chrono trigger. I have tried so hard so many times. I also LOVELOVELOVE Chrono Cross. This is an old vid but I’m just seeing it and was thinking to myself “it would be funny if 1 was chrono trigger”.
Thank you for showing me I’m not alone my friend.
Always wanted to play skies of Arcadia. Golden sun was cool just because of the mechanic of combining the djinni but was done better in the second one. It was neat to have so many options for battle though. The story was meh to me. And no nostalgic feel for me either- and I am 36. Def doesn’t feel like a snes jrpg or anything.
Wow, our taste in RPG's is surprisingly similar and I especially agree with number 1! I just COULD NOT get into Chrono Trigger no matter how many times I tried playing it. That and Secret of Mana. Man those 2 games...I don't know why but just couldn't get into them and never really finished them or even got halfway.
Surprising to hear about FF Tactics though as it is one of my favorite games hehe
Interesting to hear your reasons too so just out of curiosity, what do you think of the Fire Emblem series since Permadeath is pretty much the theme of the game. Would love to hear your thoughts about this :)
0:55 thats crazy i mean even i beat it when i was a kid
in regards to fft i recommend overlevelling. trust me it makes the game infinitely better
You miffed me with Tactics Ogre. Broke my heart with Final Fantasy Tactics!
But then you put Chrono Trigger...
... and totally redeemed yourself.
I’ve tried so hard to like that game. Maybe 9 year old me would have been blown away, but I really think that game is overrated. It’s just so random and not unified.
10. love that franchise but its definitely not for everyone even within RPG fans
9. that's one of my most favs final fantasys :D
8. it didn't register with me either. still hope its fanbase gets a remake for switch
7. didn't care for it as well
6. equipping djinns in various ways for myriad of spells and use spells outside of battle for puzzles, thats the appeal :3
5. how you feel about pokemon is exactly how i feel about dragon quest franchise. love yangus from DQ8 still
4. hate Ni No Kuni. meh story, dumbass characters and idiotic party A.I. i wish its battle system was in pokemon tho
3. loved its battle system but its story was so predictable. its not open world at all having very linear zone progression lol
2. i didn't like that game either, so you're not alone haha.
1. LOL dude, i don't like that game as well. i love its battle system but i didn't care for the characters or the story at all
Way to be brave! This is an awesome video haha. I played Chrono Trigger first and then went back and played FFVI and was much more impressed by the characters and story. Just the battle system is one of the best of that era.
I gotta say coming back to this video after your latest one, I am the complete opposite from you lol. Skies of Arcadia is one of my top 10 favorite games of all time and I love Dragon Quest 8 and Chrono Trigger. Personally I couldn't get in to Suikoden 1 & 2 and Final Fantasy VI.