I found the Service moving and am happy for Abbott Isaac. As someone who has never met him, I immediately understood why he was chosen following his brief address. In an abbey top heavy and bottom heavy, Isaac was the right choice at the right time. He will remain in my prayers as he leads his community towards their heavenly homeland.
Yeah! A lay man (a religious brother) made an Abbot (with Mitre and Pastoral staff and jurisdictional and immediate power). Yes, It can be done in the CATHOLIC CHURCH. God bless him!
Is this for real? He really is a Brother, not an ordained cleric in the community? Will the powers that be force him to be ordained ? Somebody, somewhere, although it may be in the crazy trad wing of the Church, is pooping in their pants watching a Brother wear a miter, carry a crosier... & give an abbatial blessing!
@@polemeros agreed, I'm well aware of mitered abbesses. But since our church is misogynistic as hell, I'm pretty sure the powers that have been have always simply treated anything having to do with sisters and nuns as something akin to "let them have their fun, who the hell cares, they are always outside the clerical system anyway". But francis's rescript is in the direct line of male presumptive Authority, and outside of the system which permeates everything else, and that is the sacrament of holy orders. I'm an ordained Catholic Deacon and presbyter. I know how we came up with our sacramental theology. But it's a substitute for exclusion and that's what it does. It limits the activity of a God whom we believe can do whatever s/he/they want/s. Witches I believe antithetical to the gospel message the church is actually the servant of. Not an entity existing by itself.
I was taught in high school by the Brothers of Mary, founded in 1817 in France, where lay brothers were local superiors over priests since their beginning and after the Council, laybrothers were chosen as provincial superiors, who are like abbots.
I found the Service moving and am happy for Abbott Isaac. As someone who has never met him, I immediately understood why he was chosen following his brief address. In an abbey top heavy and bottom heavy, Isaac was the right choice at the right time. He will remain in my prayers as he leads his community towards their heavenly homeland.
Yeah! A lay man (a religious brother) made an Abbot (with Mitre and Pastoral staff and jurisdictional and immediate power). Yes, It can be done in the CATHOLIC CHURCH. God bless him!
Is this for real? He really is a Brother, not an ordained cleric in the community? Will the powers that be force him to be ordained ?
Somebody, somewhere, although it may be in the crazy trad wing of the Church, is pooping in their pants watching a Brother wear a miter,
carry a crosier... & give an abbatial blessing!
Benedict's of Nurcia would be proud!
Not so some of the nitpickers further down in the replies.
@@andyherman6596 Abbesses have been doing it for ages.
@@polemeros agreed, I'm well aware of mitered abbesses.
But since our church is misogynistic as hell, I'm pretty sure the powers that have been have always simply treated anything having to do with sisters and nuns as something akin to "let them have their fun, who the hell cares, they are always outside the clerical system anyway".
But francis's rescript is in the direct line of male presumptive Authority, and outside of the system which permeates everything else, and that is the sacrament of holy orders. I'm an ordained Catholic Deacon and presbyter.
I know how we came up with our sacramental theology. But it's a substitute for exclusion and that's what it does. It limits the activity of a God whom we believe can do whatever s/he/they want/s.
Witches I believe antithetical to the gospel message the church is actually the servant of. Not an entity existing by itself.
Please forgive my typos. I'm running fast this morning.
I was taught in high school by the Brothers of Mary, founded in 1817 in France, where lay brothers were local superiors over priests since their beginning and after the Council, laybrothers were chosen as provincial superiors, who are like abbots.
Why is their a choir singing in an Abbey?Why are the monks not singing the parts of the Mass?
No Gregorian chant at an abbatial blessing. Sad