My favorite Eloquencer trick: Self-evolving patterns

My favorite trick for everyone’s favorite eurorack sequencer, the Winter Modular Eloquencer: Self-evolving patterns that change after a certain number of repetitions, without having to program and chain multiple patterns. The trick is to use one track as a “control track” that changes the pitch of the other tracks by patching the CV out of the “control track” to CV 1 and to set CV 1 to CV add. If you slow the control track down to div/16, you can use it to change the pitch of all other tracks after a set number of repetitions as I explain in the video.

[@Riichrd]

I've watched a 1h+ tutorial video and read the Eloquencer manual, but never thought of this. This is a brilliant idea and shows some of the beauty of what modular can do when you get creative. Will definitely try this out as I've been looking for something like this. Thanks!

[@geocache66today]

That’s a great tip Bertolt, thanks for this. Great idea as to how to transpose tracks. If you have Pamela’s New Workout then you could feed track H to PNW then feed this into CV1 on the Eloquencer. This way, you get logic and additional other features. 👍🏼

[@chasethevioletsun9996]

I knew when I bought my Eloquencer it was a good choice, but this showed me it was the best choice.

[@lifewithoutera]

This sold me on it. Please do more videos!

[@elm_assembly]

completely recontextualizes how i look at the eloquencer. thank you!

[@Quantumspace23]

While it's already been said, I still want to add my appreciation for what a nice touch this adds to the Eloquencer. Thanks.

[@AmericanAstroMonkey]

Great tutorial. I have Eloquencer and did not know a track could run at a different rate. Of course add probability to the CV on track H and wow.

[@Datachrome]

That's a great and smart trick! Thanks for sharing!

[@endless_arps]

A great tutorial , cheers for that!

[@postulous2030]

Cool technique! Thanks for the tip! I'm gonna give that a go :)

[@nextg.5899]

You can also create a user scale for track H and give him a little bit of probability on CV .......

[@myowelt]

Ooh that is a very good idea and reminds me to use user scales more often!!

[@mr.apartment]

hello, very well explained....unlike the user manual. do you have any references that could help me learn this module better? i'm having a hard time finding much about it. there are some things i'm trying to do on it that i just cant figure out. i'm sure it's user error, but the lack of documentation doesn't help. for instance, is there a way to put different scales per track? also, does cv and gate ALWAYS have to be on the same step in a track? there are more things i'm sure

[@GhostKitchenBand]

There’s no way to put a different scale per track. I find it useful to work in the User Scale page and select the notes I want, but that’s for all the tracks. Changing the CV probability range can restrict the note choices. The CV and gate is linked per track, but I often use another gate sequencer like Euclidean Circles. The CV will hold its value until the next gate changes CV values. There’s a Winter Modular Forum that has some more information. I had to reread the manual several times to understand all the features

[@nomutilisateur123456]

Thanks for sharing it 😉

[@interference7480]

Thank you for sharing this. I noticed that once you set the cv input to "cv add", the pitch immediately changed even though track H had no notes turned on. Why is that?

[@gouhlgambit6296]

Nice one ! This may have delayed me in buying a five12 vector for a few months ! This technique is pretty close to the subsequences function on the vector

[@Digiphex]

Without the EME, have you seen a way to input CV and vary the fill?

[@myowelt]

You mean using CV to toggle fill on/off? I’m not sure that’s possible as the CV ins can’t be set to change fill if I recall correctly.

[@Digiphex]

@@myowelt I think they do toggle fill. What I was thinking of is a light strip to go from 2x, 4x, 8x fill. Or some workaround?

[@GhostKitchenBand]

In CV options, there are choices for varying fills or you can also affect Gate Probability with CV.

[@radpix]

Thanks for sharing, I guess via midi with a Keyboard you could in a life situation again add kind of additional pitch komplexity, yet didn’t try myself, but next project

[@thepeachprince]

ah really great, thanks much

[@terrytran]

This awesome!

[@ghostandtapeDoesVideo]

Would you mind telling us the division options available on a per track basis?

[@lorcamusic]

Trying to get this to work but not sure where to connect the Volt Per Octave on my Oscillator?

[@spencerjonas8045]

In fact it doesn't work for the first step of your track A (which is luckily disabled in your demo). Eloquencer cannot read a CV and add it at the same step. So you need a precision adder outside

[@Atom-ex6ey]

Doesn't work with Mine. Only Switches maybe 3 octaves High as soon as i connect cv1 to any cv out of any track. Any advices?

[@albertosciusco2669]

Try calibration

[@davidrosset4457]

And if only transposing is not variation enough, try using the other CV 2 with a different time division and that will get transposition on less notes or even single notes ... then, you truly can have variation. 😜