Bernzomatic Map/Oxy torch Easy startup
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- @DKTractors Here's a video to help users start the bernzomatic map oxygen torch quickly and easily. Basically get the map flame as large as you can while the end of it still touches the torch top. Put a mark on the oxygen dial and count the turns to open basically you are shooting for around 1.75 turns open. See my other video for more tips • Bernzomatic Map/Oxy to... @DKTractors
Thanks for the video!
I'm just about to use this. i had no idea how to set this up properly. I had no reference. The instructions that came with the kit were a bit vague, but placing that mark on the Oxygen tank is some genius common sense stuff. I had no idea I had to turn the knob that much.
Now that I have a better understanding on how to operate this thing, I can now try to heat up a pair of seized trailer door hinges. Regular propane wasn't doing the trick.
I just bought this kit and welded up my muffler as it's first use. It works great.
+Romeo Guishard Jr ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
Thanks man. Couldn't figure out the stand. Hahaha
Great explanation. I was frustrated with the kit too until I found a video explaining what you just did. The other tip is if it's a windy day quit after it blows out a few times.
I went to a local welding supply house to look at a portable oxyacetylene kit with refillable tanks and you're looking at around 450 out the door. While this kit isn't cheap for the amount I use it it does the job and is more convenient to refill than driving to the welding supply house. If I used the kit more my opinion would change but for now it does the job.
CTSCAPER thanks here’s another about it. Bernzomatic Map/Oxy torch How to start & Tips & tricks 2017 ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
Very Nice Thanks - Best - Details better than any other video!
I never had a problem with mapp gas' the oxy addition is a step up' but like any torch you got to ease into it - here's a tip' buy the small accessory kit with the round needle like pins to clean the tip occasionally as it will need to be done. Get some flux and various types of brazing rods and learn to braze different types of metal - you'll fall in love with it - I was brazing AC units as an AC contractor making $2500.00 a week installing central air and heat in housing projects' also' learn to use Nitrogen to prevent carbon residue buildup in the copper tubing your working on. This can be a nice job perspective if you want to learn it.
Thanks for the tips I’ll definitely look into it. Thanks for watching
and dont you need to be licensed to do this?
@@ARCSTREAMS No. You can buy these at Home Depot.
@@fluxcapacitr121 you said you worked as an AC contractor assume you need a lic or school diploma to be doing that no? at least in canada you do i think
Great video. Same as you I was getting frustrated... it kept popping out. Now I'm away and brazing. Much appreciated.
This is a great video I even checked out the manufacturer video on this. And they couldn't get it to run well. Lol
Right On! This did it for me.
Thanks.
Thank you. I picked up one of these over a year ago and gave up trying to add the O2 to the MAPP gas flame. After watching you and your suggestion on the O2 knob, I'll give it another try.
Bob
+Bob Von Bruns ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
Same here... I was also given a small propane tank with troch set. I've been able to light the propane/O₂, but when using MAPP gas, the O₂ just blows out the flame.
I've been oxy-acet welding for 50 years, and cannot get the MAPP to work.
Bernzomatic Map/Oxy torch How to start & Tips & tricks 2017.
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The oxy lasts about 15-20 mins depending on how well you are able to dial it in
actually helpful info
Definitely helped!
Thank you! Saved my day! :)
Thanks! Cant imagine why this is not covered by the brand!
+Jorge Rios ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
Thank you!!
This helped me! Thanks!
These were made years ago for refrigerator freezer window unit repairs heats up quick not a big flame works great in shop
good video. I was trying to find a video of someone that has made a portable propane kit with small propane and oxygen tanks running a FULL size acetylene torch. small tanks such as yours. I saw one video with tiny propane and mapp gas tanks. I would like to see one with small oxygen tanks too. it would seem like a cheaper alternative to buying a portable oxy/acetalyne tank kit.
I like this idea but these set up go through a lot of oxygen so if you wanted a small portable setup, I saw some video where the guy just upgraded his little oxygen tank for a 20pound tank and only costs about 140$ to get the tank full and will last you a whole lot longer than the little oxy tanks
Thanks-very good advise. will try.
+Ivona Bakier ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
I had the same issue when I got mine. It wouldn't stay lit. As soon as I put the oxy to it, it would start puffing and blow itself out. So I in hooked the oxy tank, opened the oxy valve all the way, closed it then put it back on. Next time I fired it up it worked fine. Works great for brazing copper and brass. Haven't tried stainless or anything heavier though.
+shizzlefoot ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
When you're heating up your parts, remember that the tip of any flame is always the hottest part. Use the very tip of the flame for heating things. The only minor issue you might run into is that it's slightly more localized than the center of the length of the flame, the point you're hiding it at, but it's a negligible difference, however the difference in temperature is not negligible and does make a very big difference in many cases.
+Nick C thanks I alway thought the inner blue tip was hottest? Not the outer tip I’ll try your suggestion next time. Thanks for watching
I was taught the tip of the inner flame is the hottest. The inner cone is blue, while the outer cone is yellow.
That alone indicates the inner cone should be hottest, and the tip of that inner cone is the hottest portion of the cone.
I was taught the same
mabye you learned that "that's about it," isn't close to what you can do with the little time you got. with a clean tip, a must, light the gas with flame almost leaving the tip, don't mess around trying to find the perfect flame, now the oxygen you have less time, so turn it on so you get a cone, for welding a neutral to slightly hotter oxidized cone (it's sharp cone,) and when you got it set start welding the preheated metal (so preheat the work first something like propane or mapp if it's all you got, get the work almost red hot,) by nearly touching the cone on the joint, that's the hottest spot. gonna move quick the oxygen only last 10 or 15 mins.if you have heavy or thick metal, use oxygen acetylene.
Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching!
Only 10 to 15 min on a tank? Ouch! It’s like $10 a tank where I am.
I’ve never timed it but sounds about right for oxygen. Definitely for very small light duty work. Thanks for watching
Sheesh the oxygen tank is $33 here!
There only $1.99 at my local hardware store for the small benzomatic red oxygen tanks
And propane accessories
I just got one of those to melt some gold and silver. It def is a pain in the ass to start, till ya get it figured out.
+Gary Carone yeah they need to put a mark on the oxygen dial to help the user
Gary Carone I just got this yesterday for the same reason to melt my own silver and gold bars and rounds just wondering did it work good? I tried reg propane and took to long and couldn't get the silver to the lava state
+Ny Silver stacker did it work for you? Thanks for watching
DKTractors NStuff i didnt use it yet I'm gonna try and melt some silver today ill let you know thanks for the vid
+Gary Carone ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
Thanks heaps very good video..help me get up and running.cheers..
+MICHELLE REYNOLDS ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
thank you sir
+ski77z no problem ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
I came to the right video. Removing a spindle nut off an axel that’s rusted over. I’m scared to death of causing damage to my axel threads. Just ordered a setup, I’m hoping I can regulate the oxygen like that. Is it more oxygen to cut through metal. I don’t want to screw this up, thanks!
These unit don’t get hot enough to melt thick metal. Maybe aluminum but not steel
That being said just watch the color to make sure you don’t damage anything.
@@DKTractors on the flame or when the spindle heats up?
@@PortugueseFlyingStew the spindle
@@DKTractors will do! Thanks
Actually you can cut sheet metal of about 1/8", but needs a lot of oxygen
+Happy Camper thx
Keeping the torch lit seems to be the biggest challenge with kit
I've had no problems keeping it lit it just doesn't stay lit long due to the size of the map and oxy tanks
+Jose Macias ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
Thanks fot tips. I was turning map on too high or low
+James Love no problem here’s a better video
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This may be a dumb question but why is it that the oxygen just seems to be empty? I open the value all the way and it does nothing to my flame. And I've gotten it exchanged thinking it was just a dud and it did the same the second time round. Is there something obvious that I'm missing?
Kim Chong sorry to hear either they are empty or the valve in the torch isn’t working.
The the knob come off in your hand?
Another video that may help
Bernzomatic Map/Oxy torch How to start & Tips & tricks 2017 ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
mapp is not as clean as propane But it get hotter .
como se gradua el oxigeno cuantas vueltas y propano cuantas vueltas gracias
I wonder if this would be ok for gas welding aluminum. I can't gas weld aluminum with oxy acetylene to save my life.
Are you actually trying to weld aluminum, or are you 'brazing' it using the Alumiweld type rod?
If you are using the Alumiweld rod, the trick is to heat the metal, NOT the rod. Once the alum reaches 750° the rod will melt when you touch it to the alum.
Well, that's the theory. I haven't been able to get my little MAPP/oxy to work, at all, and the propane/oxy setup with the same torch doesn't get hot enough, for some reason.
I'm going to try pre-heating the metal with a large propane only blow torch I have, and using some of that cooling gel to limit conduction of the heat to the rest of the alum frame.
If I make any great discoveries, I'll let you know.
Hi Dennis, I have the same torch and never seem to get anymore heat than my normal map gas torch. Maybe I don't have it set right or don't heat long enough ?
Ralph I haven't used the straight map nozzle just this one. I've gotten the metal good and red under the surface with it. It took me awhile to figure it out but I think it works for what I need.
Do you think this would be good for heating stuck suspension strut bolts. I don't want to spend 300 for a full oxy/ acetyl setup. Butane and propane just can't get the metal red hot so I'm hoping this would
Probably worth risking $40 for the torch.
You guys Stateside get everything so cheap. I just priced this kit here in Australia where I live. The kit is $159. Replacrmrnt oxygen bottle is $33 and the MAP is $23. Not worth it for me I guess
I picked up one of those torch down type roof setups for roofing, and discovered it makes a great, (and much less expensive to use than my oxy/acet rose bud), rosebud for heating.
The first project I used it on was modifying a stinger type trailer hitch to fit my old truck. It work great for heating and bending the ¼ & ⅜" steel.
As fast and as thorough as my oxy/acet torch.
It might put out too big a flame for suspension work without shielding everything, but I just remembered a trick I saw years ago.
If you have a ½" or thicker piece of steel with a hole in the middle, you can use it a shield, and flame 'localizer', and not burn up your suspension trying to heat a bolt for removal.
If the fastener you are trying to remove with heat would loosen via shrinkage of the metal, (bolt vs nut), you could try some of that freezing penetration oil. It works great in the right situations.
Heat causes expansion, and loosens a frozzen fastener, but works better with a nut, where it can expand away from the threads.
The freezing oil causes contraction, a bolt would then contract away from the threads. The opposite of heating.
CRC sells it as Freeze Off, Loctite sells it as LB 8040 or Freeze and Release.
I have only been able to find it at industrial suppliers.
have you had issues with turning the oxy and map off but try to light map again nothing 0 flow through tip.... break down tps and valves 100% clean w/compressed air and acetone works fine.. run it for 1 min or one hour, soon as i shut it down? have to do whole process over.... It was given to me so no warranty... any ideas?
Sorry no I have not
DKTractors NStuff ok thanks bud
helpful vid, where do you get the 2 gas bottles from
+radish pea Thanks! Lowe's sells the whole setup
DKTractors NStuff once u run out of oxygen gas, is there a way to refill it instead spending 10 bucks on 40grams of oxygen...
+ramsey144 not that I'm aware of
ramsey144 I made my own adapter for my regulator that fills them off a larger oxygen bottle. You could also adapt these to run on larger tanks.
+TheToolReview do you have a video?
I bought one of those at home depot and the oxygen side seem to only last about 5 minutes.
Yeah these things suck...just get a small oxy-acetylene setup, it costs around $300 but it's far better.
I didn’t get the attchement for oxygen tank
Sorry to hear that
I needed this advise. I was using too much MAP. Curious - what happens when the MAP tank runs empty (Im on 2nd OX tank) - then you're burning the pure oxygen and the red tank blows up? They don't cover that in the manual either.
I shouldn't blow up I usually shut everything down when the flame changes.
+LanguageBoneHead Yes, oxygen is an oxidizer and MAP gas is a reducer. They react to form an oxidation reduction reaction which produces a lovely flame cone. When the reducer is depleted, the oxidizer just flows out with nothing to reduce. That being said, it should be turned off because in the presence of excess oxygen, you may find that if you light a match, the oxygen will reduce it rather quickly, like in an instant, so your arm may catch fire due to the large increase in heating, and it may reduce you, burning your entire body instantly.
+LanguageBoneHead ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
what that little hole in beginning of video is use for? that show in the red cylinder at 2 sec video
Handerson Barros If you are referring to the hole in the red cylinder then I think it is how the oxy cylinder is filled by the MFG
+JAYJAY basically just a hotter hand held better then propane
Use it just for heating stuff
+JAYJAY the hole I think is for he mfg to fill at the beginning
If I buy this then I am gonna buy spare oxy cylinders since the oxy lasts only 10 mins.
Así es yo cay en esa falsedad
Thinking about heating my banger with this baby lol
and how long does the oxy last? i hear no more than 5 min from most reviews
ziad welder longer then 7 maybe 10-15 max
THE GAS RUNS OUT QUICK
how long does the oxygen last?
6 minutos
Availability of these kits is awful. So useful over gas only
Agree I don’t see them anymore at Lowes
@@DKTractors and oxygen tanks. You seeing those? Just picked up an oxyacet setup but its a mack truck when you need a prius
@@mattwarrensocal yes I picked one up recently
Can I buy bigger air tanks for it?
+Alex the DIYer good question I know propane tanks sell different sizes and shapes I don't know if you'd be able to find the same screw on connections as these if you need something larger I'd recommend just going to oxygen acetylene set up
+Alex the DIYer here's my latest on this ua-cam.com/video/8LKY9CYOLwI/v-deo.html
La gran estafa se llama este equipo el oxígeno dura 6 minutos y comprar otra botella es costosa
oxygen lasts only 8-10 minutes!!!
That was my doubt, I thought it was only me that lasted so little, thank you, my friend.
Those bottles of Oxygen are $10 where I am. Wow, $1 a minute to run that stuff?
Can this be used to melt .999 silver?
Genuine MAPP gas can be used in combination with oxygen for heating, soldering, brazing and even welding due to its high flame temperature of 2925 °C (5300 °F) in oxygen.
Silver melting point is 1,763°F
Garbage garbage don't buy it..oxygen cylinders don't last but ten minutes lines are TOO stiff valves won't hold settings they are too sensitive they are too loose. Wish I had never got it oxy cost ten bucks a bottle where mapp last all day. Crap crap crap fucking piece of crap
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