Powerboats vs Sailboats - 13 Reasons Why Sailboats Are Better
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- In this video I go over some non-obvious reasons why sailboats are DEFINITELY better than powerboats. And that is in many ways. However, there are some advantages of powerboats, which I'll also discuss at the end.
If you disagree with me or have other reasons, leave them in the comments!
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You mentioned shallow water as a limitation of a sail boat. Bridges are another.
Great points
@Javier L True, although sailboats will generally hold up better than powerboats thanks to their displacement hulls
Shallow water travel can be mitigated by a lifting keel/centerboard.
@@ImproveSailingmost trawlers are displacement yachts. Look into Bering
why have a conversation or listen to birds when you could enjoy the sound of two Chevrolet pickup truck engines at full throttle.
Why didn't you include the creaks and the other sounds of the rigging under load of a working sailboat
We got caught on Lake Huron one time in a dead calm, so couldn't sail to our start point. The gas motor had issues, so we ended up using the inflatable tender with a 4hp Yamaha to push a 35ft sail boat for 6 or 7 hours. That was a long day.
I love both sail boats and power boats, and choosing one or the other depends on what you want to do in a boat.
Good story, and I too love and use both. I can't imagine how long that must have felt.
Thank you so much sir for this video it is educated me most. Look forward to seeing more videos, thank you very much be safe out there on the water.
I love how you have the map of the Roman empire in the background. It's incredible to think people used flamethrowers (Greek fire) on ships before they knew how to use fuel to power ships
When you powerboat you become a powerboater, when you sail you become a seaman
Thank you for this great video!
Great video. I agree
25 knots speed!? A true ocean going powerboat is a trawler. (Trawler has a keel) A 40 feet trawler will do 6-7 knots in cruising speed. Not much faster than a similar sized monohull sailboat. I would never do long distance open sea on a planing boat.
But yes, a trawler is way more expensive fuel wise (even compared to a similar sized sailboat motoring). I also love the feeling of sailing with sails.
But a trawler like a Nordhavn or Grand Banks, might be what most people would want when Old and Rich (I think I would when I get old) Easier to handle. Loads of comfortable living space. And still very seaworthy. But it has a price.
I am brand new to boats... Just got my marine licence today... I freedive and swim... And theres a few areas where u can swim with wild seals... and i got told that around this particular structure, the where the current is super strong and tend to pool and swirl around the structure, its not the best for sail boats... So they said for freediving off a boat powerboat is better for better manuvureability? What do u think? I dont know anything about anything so really appreciate any advice pls! Ur channel seems v v informative and helpful! Thanks!
Sailboats usually have a tender vessel. Anchor where it safe and use the tender for diving missions
What I don't like about sail boats is they always is leaning to one side, always have to pull on the sail ropes and the living space is below the water line. Also how do you feel about removing the sail masts and running the sail boat with two say 350 HP outboard motors on the back only? Thanks and good video.
Keith Johnson: I understand your viewpoint. But the leaning to one side gives a sailboat the most smooth sailing and stability. The wind stabilize a sailboat. Also healing angle depends on the wind angle, and general boat construction. My own boat is very stiff for its size (and good beam size) so healing is not so much. But its not a racer for sure.
Powerboats need stabilizers, or the motion will be sickening in the long run.
With traditional sailboats you go down below the deck. Well.. sure its more cramped, but low center of gravity is optimal for sailing capabilities. But with my own sailboat I got one with a deck salon. A compromise Im glad to make for the luxury of being able to sit inside with a cup of coffee on the table, and looking out on the sea.
You cant make a sailboat fast for motoring. Going above hull speed will just make the stern dive/sink. And two 350 HP outboard would make it even worse. Make the stern dive, even before it moves :)
No an inboard diesel is the best for a cruising sailboat. The small ones can do with a small outboard (4-8 HP is enough) But not for long distance (unless you can charge battery from other sources) Outboard does not charge batteries as an inboard diesel does.
Go check out catamarans and trimarans.
Solves these issues.
Witch sail boat you think is better a single or double hull sail boat?
Hi Keith, I prefer monohull sailboats, catamarans can be a bit choppy and have this strange sideways motion when in waves.
So with sailing when you said your always busy, there's no relaxing time while your out sailing at all?
Well you do have to pay attention. When on a steady course, you do have some time to day dream a bit of course. But you also have to keep an eye on the weather constantly.
If your solo, your constantly working, unless the wind is super cooperative/calm (sail trim doesnt have to be perfect at all times, as long as they are not flapping, so i guess its not critical to be constantly adjusting things). things get 10x easier with just one crew mate to assist with sail trim and lookout.
One advantage you forgot to mention is that everyone aboard a sailboat gets to do something. Steering, sail trimming, keeping a lookout, or just moving around as human ballast.
Sailing is a good sport for older persons because they get to participate even if it is just in a small way.
So many powerboat videos show the Captain having fun steering and the passengers about as active as so many sacks of potatoes.
Definitely biased but good thoughts👍
@4:39
Is a $1500, 22ft sailboat big enough to sail the oceans ?
I assume you mean passage making or circumnavigation, not just poking out of an inlet for an afternoon in the "ocean" before heading back to the marina in the evening.
if you are a pro whos been sailing since you were 10 years old and know the ins and outs of predicting weather with or without electronic assistance. then you could make a go of it and quite likely succeed.
But if you are a novice, id say its probably suicide in a boat so small, or really any size boat with no experienced crew. stick to costal waters till you have seen your share of squals and adverse weather. Because a sailboat on the ocean cannot outrun a storm, you have to be ready and able to handle the conditions when they come.
If you are considering buying a $1500 22 footer (catalina 22, maybe?), I say go for it. you will need to spend plenty of time in close to shore to hone your skills and confidence, no better boat for it. and they are easy to sell once your ready to upgrade to the next stage of your sailing career. (or, if you decide its not your cup of tea)
The sad reality is that while all sailors dream about a long ocean passage... very few will actually make one. A weekend short cruise is more realistic. The use that a boat gets is inversely proportional to it's size. Go small!
You forgot the fumes , great video !
Would be nice to know where to find good deals on sailboat. I want to live the sailboat life but I'm on a budget don't want to burn all my money just to purchase one..and left with no money to repair or go anywhere.
Good luck! You may have to become a dock crawler to find what you're looking for....
you also have to consider slip rental and insurance, liabity only if its a cheap old boat, just to protect you incase you bump someones mega yhact and cause 200k worth of paint scuffs. unless you live close to a mooring field or anchorage where you can store it for free.
Yea the family day trip with water sports is the only reason for me. But thats a fun reason. :-)
the point with the costs of 5k usd for the trip, its also depends on how heavy the boat is and what engines do you have, the more hp, the more fuel are you going to need. what i dont like about sail boats is that you can use them only when its windy, for all the other reasons i could agree with your video and thank you for the information
I view rigging and engines as one in the same. They can both be expensive as hell when things go wrong, or just when their time is up. but unless you mess up and snap your mast, or wear out some other major component that cant be repaired easily, its not NEARLY as bad as needing to do an engine out overhaul on a power boat. new standing rigging might set you back a few grand, blow up an engine and you need to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house, or sell the boat for $1 so the next sucker can deal with it.
If you want speed and shallow draft get a Dragonfly 40. Max. speeds 24 knots and a draft of 0.7m board up and it's folding there's also the folding Rapido 40 with similar specs. Draft 0.87m but with its C-Foil. it would probably be faster, their site says close to 30 knots in 25 knots wind. Theses boats are new, you won't find any used ones, so they will cost you. You can beach these, but the antifouling will take its toll.
waarom niet wake board achter de zeilboot?
Het zit een beetje op het randje qua snelheid volgens mij
yes Sailboats like for like are effectively 10% of the cost to buy and own. Cost of fuel is such difficult thing to measure and compare sailboat fuel cost is maintenance to rigging and sails which has a habit of sending big bills but less often. My last headsail was 2000 dollars though it will last aa good length of time there are other sails.
The problem of comparison is really that there are few equivalents. My 28ft keelboat could sail around the world easily, few similar volume power boats could even think of doing that. But many people would be bored in my boat and want to zip out for a day fishing or a day at an island etc.
I am a sailor so I agree with you 100% however there are lots of people who are better suited to or prefer a power boat. I respect their choice in life as long as they don't interfere with my choice so really its about the individual rather than the vessel.
A case in point I invited a couple out for a day on my sailboat we sailed out to a bird sanctuary island went ashore and explored had a nice swim then fished for awhile before sailing home. They loved it the wife enjoyed the cabin for refuge from the sun and the bathroom and convenience of the boat they enjoyed the sailing because it was a very good weather day. Later they told me they had bought a boat of their own based purely on that day out. They bought a 40ft historic motor launch and completely restored it at great cost and love it, it suited their life style and interest they have a sailing dinghy if they wish to sail I think they made the perfect choice for them.
Powerboat=noise and wakes. Sailboat= grace and skill.
Hey I live in Miami on a sailboat I live on a Catalina 34 on the hook and I work full time on a yacht when I go down when you can't sit on the stern of the boat because of the exhaust in the films yes we cruise at 42 knots we top out at 46 on a viking sport fishing but every time my boss peace for fuel I say to myself he is throwing away money but I guess he has it like that but I'd rather sell there is no comparison 100% for my sailors see you out on the water
Thanks jay, I agree 100% it's a shame but hey, it's fast. Must be nice living on a Catalina in Miami, sounds about right.
Not sure if I agree 100% with the costs of a passage on a sail boat being $0.00. Look at any sail boat passage UA-cam video and you will see everyone doing motor sailing or just motoring without sails because of wind conditions. You do have to add a bunch of money for diesel for a fair comparison. Why do sail boats carry a bunch of jerry cans full of diesel in long passages?
Well you add a bit of much need nuance to the comment section! Of course you're right. The amount of fuel needed with those little outboards is tiny in comparison with powerboats, though!
As long as you have (enough) wind where you need it, it is free going forward "power" on a sailboat. (Sail cost excluded) An option you dont have on a powerboat. Unless the current can take you where you want to go (and can wait for a looong time) :)
I don’t disagree with any of that. The point that I am making is that the cost on a sailboat passage is not $0.00!
@@cd4222 Agree. Though the passage itself is not the most expensive thing on owning a boat :)
Just in case.
I want a good ship that can travel under her own power so I’ll pick a sailboat every single time
@14:16 with my family visiting bitches..., that's the day I become a grounder 🤣🤣
Sailboats are the absolute best to have on the ocean or on a lake!!!❤❤
Why Pinisi, Gulet boats have motor engines today? Because its a XXI century !!! 😘
...powerboats have sound isolation wall barriers in engine room. they can run from storm or run in no wind situation. powerboat can drive a week or old person (or bad scout). today the time is more expensive than gasoline. you must have the generator and batteries on board (fridge, navigation, watermaker, etc). the wind generator is not effective like solar power. the sail mast is high and dangerous. the price of ropes and sails are also expensive like maintenance for motors. motor yacht have today better layout plans than sail yachts (better beachclub area, larger cabins, place for jacuzzi/hot tub, larger toys and tender garage, fishing deck, etc). 🥰🥰🥰
I just buy a 1000 euro 36 foot amel kirk best price
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I know we can't hit every detail and still have a reasonably short video, but heading from California to Hawaii and back on a power boat could still make economic sense, based on the number of people aboard, the provisions required, and the work hours lost. Power boat round trip takes two hundred hours, about eight days, five work days, forty two work hours at twenty dollars an hour for the average San Diegan. If you go with a crew of four and split the fuel costs, then you're talking about a cost of twenty two hundred bucks each. My sail boat would make that round trip in about six hundred hours, about twenty five days, about seventeen work days, about a hundred forty three work hours at twenty dollars an hour for the average San Diegan. If you sail with a crew of four, then you're talking about a cost of three grand each. Time can't be ignored when talking economics. This math isn't as valid for places like Mississippi, where the average person only works about thirty hours a week and only earns about ten bucks an hour. Time is on their side.
All of that being said, I'd vote to sail every time, but that's because sailing is the goal, not the means.
Hit me up if you'd like to sail here in San Diego.
Very true, good point.
And thanks for the invite.
People like me always on the move , where time is not compare to money can enjoy beter the world.
You mention the noise and then have continuous annoying bg music 😢
Thanks.... we’ll done.
You should cut out 40% of your video content. They are fillers.
You are being blackballed before you even get started, when you ask people to click on your channel before you have even started with your video every one is boycotting your channel through social media. Stop doing that and you will see your channel grow.
Stop talking nonsense…I have the sailboat and motor boat…as you said sailboat travel to somewhere for free…but did you realize how much it cost for the whole sail systems? In fact… Its extremely expensive…
You know nothing about powerboat at all…my power boat is inspired by lobster boat…had 1.4m deep keel…thats not easy to capsize at all…
Its consume 1.2 liter per nautical mile…
Dont fool ppl here…
Ok Franco, well it's an anecdotal comparison, obviously. I know a lot of both power and sailboat owners and these are the numbers we came up with.
Power boats are shallow water boats
Non sense , sailing boat has the kel sail and mast rig plus the motor and motor boat depends on Wich tips has only the motor to service u only thinking off petrol and free wind lol also Evey one has to give way to sailing boats and move out off there ways because they slow ,dude ur video sucks .
its not because sailboats are slow. its because they depend on the wind to move. usually sort of limits their direction of travel at any one time. where as a powered boat can change course at will, no matter what the wind is doing.