Winchesters Beast of a Lever Action: The Model 71
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Winchester developed this rifle specifically to shoot the .348 "Big Game" cartridge. This is a highly refined rifle designed by Winchesters engineers and is considered one of the smoothest levers that the company developed.
In the episode of Gun Shorts we take a brief look at the ballistic reloading tables from back in the day to see just how fast you might be able to push this big flat-nosed bullet, and then do a tour of one these Model 71 rifles.
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My grandfather passed not long ago. He had a reputation for being a very successful hunter, always bagging a deer yearly without fail. He had a newer rifle, but he only used his Model 71.
This was the only thing that was passed down to me from him, and honestly I feel such honor having it. There are no words.
These stories of firearms being used by generations and passed down are the real story of firearms in America. Thank you for sharing and please take good care of that rifle for the future.
Mine is a 1936 Deluxe Model purchased new in Casper, Wyoming by my dad. Pristine condition, my favorite rifle of all time!
Thanks for the comment Fred. Yep...these are just beautiful rifles... From a whole different time in our history.
The Winchester 1886 was THE beast and it came in 50-110. The 348 is the same case necked down.
Soooo...then we have a flock of beast. 50-110 was indeed a huge cartridge but it was black powder. The 348 was smokeless. And by "beast", I am referencing the dimensions of the rifle itself. So by that definition both the 1886 and the 71, are beast. Thanks for watching and commenting.
My Dad had two Model 71's and an Over Under rifle made in England that was chambered in the .348 Winchester.
Much to my dismay he traded that Over Under to someone for a Jeep and a model 12 shotgun.One Model 71 went to my sister and I kept the one that I wanted that has period Marbles tang peep sight.
This video sure made me miss my Dad but I sure am glad that you posted it.
Well....Jeeps are good too ;)
Well... I just picked a deluxe up at a local gun show today.
Made in 1954.
I did pay quite a bit for it, 2k out the door, but it came with 4 full boxes of original vintage ammo in various bullet weights, 6 additional mostly full vintage boxes, mostly original with some handloaded in there (with recipes), a set of dies, and 3 unopened boxes of 100 Hornady 200gr bullets, so I'm really not gonna cry.
The add ons are probably worth nearly half of what I paid based on what I'm seeing vintage ammo selling for.
It's probably around 75-80%.
My shoulder can't wait to feel the pain come spring and I'm looking forward to hunting with it.
It is the only Winchester lever I own, and I agree, it is a very smooth cycling action.
I too will buy all the deluxes I can find for $1000, all day, every day.
Nice...where you out of Julian?
@@SixRoundsStudio Blue York LoL !
Show was in Matamoros, PA
@@JULIANBRACHFELD A recent check of one of the local auction houses still shows the standard version of these rifles going for 1-1.5k. The deluxe will always pull a premium. Remember...I made this video over two years ago. Also...gun values are not always static. What's desirable today may not be tomorrow. You are in the NE so your prices will be in my region.
@@SixRoundsStudio I totally understand. I've been collecting for over 2 decades and I have a bucket list.
It mostly contains firearms I've had to sell when I got divorced 15 years ago.
The 71 was always on it, but I've never been able to find anything at what I consider a reasonable price.
This recent find was a miracle and I found it literally as the show was breaking down.
I looked at it more closely and it was definitely hunted but not abused in any way. I truly believe that based on everything else that came with it, I did ok.
Ok for me is that I paid at least 25% less than I could sell everything for, and I think did better than that.
Now back to the bucket list !
I have a Model 71 deluxe from 1938, and it's just a timeless masterpiece of engineering and craftsmanship. At $2.50 a round (pre-pandemic prices), it's a special occasion shooter, but it's an everyday pick-up-and-admire. I love it.
I agree. Aren't they just beautiful rifles!
It's my favorite rifle. I have a Browning remake made in 1987. I use a Williams receiver peep sight. The original deluxe model came with a bolt mounted peep sight which was factory drilled and tapped right into the top rear of the bolt. It's a sweet gun!
They are indeed. Thank you for taking the time to watch the vid and comment!
I would pay 900 for that lever gun all day long
Bill Ruger also offered his single shot No.1 rifle in .348 Win. CF. way back when!
Did not know that.
I have my Grandfather 's Model 71.
I did a quick look on Gunbroker and if I could buy Model 71's at 900, I would own more of them. I see the average price at 2500 plus.
And it is my opinion that vintage lever actions are very popular right now.
What a wonderful rifle cartridge combination.
Thanks for the video, 348 material is few and far between.
Rick Mansberger
Redmond Sports Group
Winchester, it is Your Heritage
Rick, Thanks for the comment. I stand by my comment in the video....collector prices are very regional. We are a retail store and sell locally. In my experience online stores and (and auction sites in particular) draw from a large market, and because of that the prices get boosted for good or evil. Right now in my neck of the woods the vintage lever market is down. in fact we are sitting on two very nice(ish) dated 1901 and 1943.
@@SixRoundsStudio Where is your shop located. I might need to take a drive there. I went to the website but it didn't have a location. I don't do facebook.
@@westtexan2263 Well if you are indeed from west Texas....a long way from you. We are in New Hampshire.
@@SixRoundsStudio Yeah I went to the Rodys website and saw that. I am in west Texas so that would be a very long drive. If life ever gets back to normal I may head up that way but not right now.
@@SixRoundsStudio what’s the name of the gun store?
I’m stupid 🤦🏻♂️ it’s on your shirt. Do you still have any lever guns?
Great Video my Friends Love the Detail and the info from 1960 my Birth Year! This is about the eighth time I watched this Video and I can Feel the tractor Beam Pulling me towards my Next Purchase!! Thank You SixRounds !!
Thank you Scott.
Definitely going to add one of these to my collection eventually
I think this is one of the finer levers Winchester made....Just my opinion :)
@@SixRoundsStudio I'll even settle for a Miroku reproduction Model 71 I bet this would make a fine blacktail deer rifle in brushy country that has grizzly bears.
Love this rifle ! My favorite lever action rifle ever . Uberti makes the reproduction ( it’s exactly to perfection) of this model 71’ but it isn’t offered in .348 Winchester, I believe it’s offered in .45-70 Government and .444 Marlin . Looks identical and very elegantly done with exquisite detail.
These are beautiful rifles!
Thank-you for the video, nice presentation, it is a Gem. Rare find!
Thank you Kevin...appreciate the comment!
I just got passed down a high grade Browning reissue. Excited to have this.
Just a fantastic gun. Thank you for taking the time to comment
Thank you for the education a lot of stuff I'm learning from you.
Gary I am so glad that you are getting something from my vids. It makes it all worth it for me.
GREAT VIDEO
Thank you bullseye
Bought mine in 1958. Reload the 200 grain Hornady flat point with 53 grains of 4895 for a muzzle velocity of 2500 feet per second. That equals the velocity of the Winchester 200 grain silvertip factory round no longer in production. Mine is the standard model with an adjustable peep sight.
Very cool! You like WWII fighter airplanes too?
@@SixRoundsStudio I was a military and civilian pilot for 36 years starting in 1959 when I enlisted in t U.S. Air Force Aviation Cadet Corps pilot training. I first saw a flight demonstration of a British Hawker Sea Fury in 1982 at Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
@@F84Thunderjet Never served (it was tough for the services late 60s early 70) but went to school for aero engineering and hold a commercial ticket. Much respect for your time in both.
Recently discovered your channel. Really enjoy the content and I'm learning some new things. Thank you very much.
Great to hear! Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you consider subscribing.
The 348 case is just the 50-110 win necked down to .348,I also have a 1936 one and its the smoothest lever action of all time,the 348 is accurate,powerful and easy to reload ammo for it so it has everything going for it and nothing going against it,I have used one for many years and if I could only have one rifle the model 71 would be it!
They are beautiful rifles! Thanks for taking the time to comment Dennis
@@SixRoundsStudio And thank you for taking the time to make such an informative video.
Your knowledge of gunsmithing is great anytime I watch one of your videos I learn something new thanks
Thanks Emilio. Please keep watching. Appreciate you commenting
Beautiful rifle well worth the money.
They are indeed! From another time.
I learned some new things, thanks!
I am glad that you are enjoying the vids. I love making them.
I had a girlfriend back in 1971 who’s dad had a model 71. I remember shooting it but no particulars about it. It looked like this one, I do remember the receiver sight though. I do remember it kicking more than my model 94 32 Special though.
This is a beautiful design. I have not shot it yet so I cant comment on the recoil....but I imagine it is fairly significant, especially with that steel butt plate. Shooting it might make a good video for next summer... What do you think?
Enjoyed.
Thank you!!
Montana Bullet Works offers an excellent heat treated, hard cast, gas checked, 200 grain bullet for the model 71 owners. As far as brass cases are concerned, lots of luck in that department. Midway has had them offered but at a rather steep price. If that's all we have to choose from, so be it!
Its all way to hard right now
Hey, maybe provide a link to Rody's?
I just purchased my first reloading equipment but have not even attempted my first reload round. I need to assure myself I will be safe. I have been studying though. How does this round compare to 30-30, 45-70, 30-06, 7.62X 54R, .308? It would be helpful for me to kind of place-it amongst these other common rounds.
Ben, those links for Rodys exist both in the channel homepage art as well as in the about section. Best advice for reloading is to purchase a reloading recipe book, read it and follow the loading data recommended. This data will also help to compare performance by caliber.
@@SixRoundsStudio OKThank you. Where does that round "place" amongst the common ones I listed?
@@benkanobe7500 you'll see a close resemblance to the 30-06 Springfield shooting 200-220 grain bullets. The 358 Winchester is the more modern day version of the 348 Winchester. However.. being that the model 71 was built for the 348 Winchester and no other rifles housed this fine cartridge.. it makes it a dream to find used.
The 35 calibers are very underrated!
I personally use the 358 Winchester.. have used the 350 Remington Mag as well. Both of these out class the 348 on paper.. yet the game knows no difference.
Keep diving in to information.. and I appreciate you asking questions :)
Was the sling mount part of the standard rifle or was it added?
It was included at manufacture in the deluxe rifle only.
I desperately want a 71 but I need a scope to focus my eyes and that rifle is too beautiful to put a scope on...
These are probably one of the most beautiful of the lever actions. Its ok just to own one too
I’ll take all I can get for 900$ won’t take 2500 for mine,thanks for the video.
My father has had one for years that belonged to his grandfather. It certainly is a beast, but damn are the shells pricey.
Hopefully it stays in the family?
Nice rifle,I only have one.Made in 1957.
It definitely is. Thanks for the comment!
I have one of these old boys
Aren't they just amazing!
Great video, thanks. Hornady is canceling the 200 gr. bullet, sorry to say. I spoke with a Hornady rep, yesterday and she is sending me two of the several remaining boxes of these bullets they have in stock. So it looks like we owners of the Win. 71 will be casting or at least purchasing cast bullets from various casting companies. Bummer!!!
Hmmmm...I guess nothing is ever forever.
Hawk bullets maybe?
I have a model 71 it has checkering on the wood. Any idea of the value?
Bob, thanks for the question. Condition and originality is everything. I have also said many times in my videos that collector prices vary greatly by region and desirability (it is ultimately worth what someone is willing to pay). I mentioned in this vid that the one I used in the vid had a value of 900 to 1000 and someone commented that the value should be closer to 2000. There are many price guides available at book stores to look these things up...but each guide will reference both condition and originality. I realize this is a non-answer answer, but these things are never black and white.
Wish i had sling mounts on my 1886
Winchester made two versions of this rifle...both the Standard and the Deluxe. The Deluxe got in addition to the Standard; sling loops and slings, a pistol grip cap, and checkering. The sling loops were inlet into the gun stocks. Thanks for watching and commenting!
FORGOT TO MENTION THE PISTOL GRIP CAP WHICH IS A DELUXE FEAURE ALSO
Thank you King!
@@SixRoundsStudio GLAD 2 HELP
Awesome video!
Thanks!
I use a 348 win and 348 Ackley. Either is an excellent rifle fully capable out to 300 yds, and far from a so-called brush cartridge even those dont really exist anyways.
As per value, that rifle is easily far north of $950. Much farther north.
Thanks for the comment Aaron.
I meant 348 not 358 , typo .....
Great Rifle.
Yep. One of the best Winchester made
The M71 is really an "improved" 1886 The John M. Browning masterpiece lever action. How you improve on perfection puzzles me because the .33WCF in the '86 was big enough for most North American game. A sales gimmic i suppose but still a beautiful rifle.
Beautiful indeed! Thank you for commenting.
I would give a 1000 for a 100 percent 71 all day long
Welp...first...I made this video over two years ago. Second...looking at the auction catalogs from one the North Easts largest gun auction houses....these guns are valued anywhere from 800 to 2500 with the average price being roughly 1000 to 1200.
I say this in the video, that gun collector prices are very regional and you can never know what you will pay until you pay it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Absolute gorgeous rifle. I suspect it was designed and built to compete with the Savage 99. Basically the ballistics are about 30-06 capabilities. Your average Joe looking to purchase an upgrade from the 30-30/35rem were easily fooled back in the early part of the 20th century about data. If a mfg said it would take anything on the NA continent then they believed it. As data was not so readily available, they just assumed it would be a lot better than the old venerable 06. Another thing is the idea of a "brush gun". I don't think folks actually made a habit of shooting through brush at their game. To me, a brush cartridge just meant that the cartridge and rifle were designed to shoot at short ranges because this was how folks hunted in the East back in the day. It was a walk-about rifle, for close shooting. Unlike today. Of course, these are just my opinions and beliefs I've held for many years. Regardless this was one of Winchester's finest creations. Highly collectable to this day. Good review Six.
Thanks for taking the time to comment EastTexan. First off…I do think that this is probably one of Winchesters finest effort at the lever action (some may disagree…but that’s ok). It is simply a beautiful rifle. Regarding “brush guns”…here in the eastern US (especially the mountainous regions of NH) we would typically hunt deer in the thick spruce and hemlock underbrush where the deer would hang out in the day light hours (just sucks getting through it…but we can get it done). A brush gun is one that we think of as easy to carry in that thick underbrush. And yup…sometimes we would shoot at a deer (bear, pig….) in that underbrush. If we can draw a clear bead (or cross hair) in that brush…its going to happen. Does that heavier, slower bullet buck its way through the light brush and twigs???? Don’t know I guess…but lots of deer taken with 30-30s and 44 mags here over the decades. Most shots are 15 to 25 yards. Not a lot of big open range and 50/100 yard shots in my section of New Hampshire. I suspect…but don’t know…that that might have been what Winchester meant in its advertising that this was a great brush cartridge. Good conversation....thanks for sharing (I love this stuff).
@@SixRoundsStudio here in East Texas is what's known as "the Piney Woods". timber companies own vast tracts of land that are planted in pine, and then clear cut after about 20 years and the process starts all over again, but we also have vast amount of mixed hardwoods to. Lots of deer and hogs. I've used all the calibers in my 70 yrs of hunting (I'll be 77 in Feb). Owned many lever guns but I grew up hunting deer with dogs from the mid 50's into the mid 80's when dogs became illegal. Shotguns were the norm back then with 3" chambers and #1 buckshot were very potent. I definitely fired through the brush at running deer and few escaped 5 discharges of firepower.
@@easttexan2933 Great stories!!! I wish the world could hear the "real" stories of guns and gun owners and not the S**t the news force feeds the world. Thanks East
Got two 1894's 25-35 made 1905.and a30-30 made 1907.26" octagon barrels.hornady leverEvolutio point tup rounds shoot great with better range.😊😊😊
Hard not love an old Winchester. We sell the LeverEvolution ammunition in our retail store, but I have never used it. Everything I read or watch says it performs well.
I found an old set of pacific dies in 348 at my grandparents house, but unfortunately no model 71
Well...... One day.... Keep the dies, rife to follow....some day?
348 IS A BEAST THEN 450 ALASKAN IS A DEAMON
In want one.
Yes sir...they are beautiful
CARBINES ARE RARE, ESPECIALLY THE STANDARD GRADE CARBINE. LONG TANG MODELS ARE WORTH MORE
These are great old guns from Winchester.
You still have that rifle I give you$1200😊😊😊
🙂
$3000 in 2024
Where you looking?
looks like 1/2 Winchester, 1/2 marlin.........
Yep...it does sort of. This is a beautiful rifle
Don't read out of a book fella. We can read ourselves. This guy just likes to listen to himself talk. Get on with it!
Yeah, lets see you find one of those for $900 bucks. You're nuts!
Well...your a mean old hater arn't yah!! Checked your channel to see your vids...always looking to improve. BUT...nope...none...hmmmm. Constructive is a word I learned growing up...You? You might try it. Oh...and check some auction catalogs brother (real auctions not this online stuff) , I did. To answer this crap comment of yours I searched through several that we receive from the local house we deal with and found prices as low as 800 and as high as 4000 (with 1000 to 1800 the average currently). I uploaded this video a year and a half ago. If you are in the business...you would know that prices vary by region and time of the day. Be nice! Think you can? It goes a long way to making friends and learning stuff. Haters will be haters! And you friend are on the path to being one hell of a hater.
Good slap-back! But please, tell us how you really feel! Just kidding...but good for you!@@SixRoundsStudio