We would all do the same thing too. People act like winning the chip at the pro level as a coach and player is easy. Vogel has ring, and he will get another job because of it. Vogel just like Doc can always say he is a championship coach.
What happened to the 76ers yesterday in Boston should come as no surprise to anyone and that’s because as you’re teams core you have Joel “can’t get outta the second round” Embiid, James “chokes in the big games” Harden & they’re coached by Doc “blows a series lead” Rivers
Embiid and Doc did the same thing when they lost to Atlanta placed the blame at the feet of Ben. For the record Ben didn’t play good but a star player and the Head Coach shouldn’t be putting the loss on the other star player when it’s a team game. These dudes have no accountability and you can never win with guys like that.
Embiid to me has to cop most criticism. Harden at least won a game for them and played better without Embiid. How the hell you play that bad then blame your players that played better then you. Why didn't Embiid keep up that same energy he had for winning MVP award as for winning games.
I love Rob when he uses the sarcastic humor he says "oh yeah fiber is good for your body" had me cracking up love you dudes man and the work yall do keep it up
This is why I love TNT so much bc Shaq, Charles and Kenny truly speak upon situations they really were in. Shaq has repeatedly said big games are about your stars going toe to toe. You even learn this growing up playing sports that your coach can only do SO much. YOU have to go execute
@Jim Wilson Yes he did! He would have some of the greatest offensive season, but when it came time to win a game to get into the playoffs he would throw three picks, and fumble. Tony Romo was always the reason his yeams came up short. Stats and just go watch those games back me up.
Boston is just really good, this their 5th conference finals in 7 years and probably will be representing the Eastern Conference for consecutive years.
They're saying the MVP is a regular season award but all I was hearing was "Jokic can't have 3 MVPs in a row, he hasn't even won the championship. The other players that did it won". People need to make up their minds and be consistent smh.
MVP is a joke. They've been having hypocritical arguments about it for years to justify why each person won it. idk why people are even surprised at this point
Midway through the 1st quarter, I would have called time out and told my 76er players. We're going to double-team Tatum every time he touches the ball. We're gonna give him the Jordan/Kobe treatment. Make someone other than Tatum and Brown beat us. Capiche?
I would have accepted Embiid's answer if he would have included Maxey in his little club with Harden. He's the only sixer with heart and occasionally Harris.
His teams are constantly top 4 teams in their conferences and he consistently has winning records. He’s lived up to his coaching, as far as the playoffs look at how many coaches have rings vs those that don’t.
People like Chris were saying bc of Jokic’s current playoff resume without his starters he shouldn’t get 3 straight then gave it to someone with a worse resume
@@HardCold-Alquan Exactly so why were so many using that as their excuse to not give it to someone who deserves it to turn right around and give it to someone who doesn’t have playoff success at all
@@comebackkid5976 Well, if you are Jokic right now, would you rather have another league MVP or be the first in a crop of players to finally get The Nuggets to the Finals? If they win, it is like the Browns, Bills, Jets or Clippers winning! However, I believe that the NBA is fixed and they are giving the title to The Lakers so that James can at least have 5 titles to match Magic and Kobe before he retires.
Where the MVP at...I know where he aint...SINCE CONFERENCE FINALS BOUT TO START! But its Jokics playoff resume ya'll wanna question. The guy whos bout to tip off his 2nd straight WCF-when he isnt missing Jamal,MPJ,& about 3 or 4 other role players who missed playoffs last 2 yrs. But at least Embied got his MVP-most important thing to him. He can stroke that trophy all offseason. And can we get this man another trophy that says "1st round champions?" They have won 1st round 5 of 6 yrs ya know!(also got swept 1st round once) And besides...none of it is his fault anyways!
Philly/Miami in the conference finals would’ve been disgusting. I’m glad Celtics finally decided to stop playing with their food. If they try it with Miami, Jimmy will make them pay
This is what happens when an entire league depends on the 3 pointer. They are inconsistent. This is the most inconsistent season I’ve ever seen. Usually the nba is the most reliable league when it comes to expectations. We usually expect the 1 and 2 seeds to make it. This is a terrible nba season. This is the type of basketball you can expect when you have every position shooting 3s
Point the finger at Stern because the game went from post play and changed to the European style of play where your bigs are shooting 3s and nobody plays in the paint unless nobody is within two feet of you.
You’ve got a point . I haven’t seen this many of the top 4 seeds go out this soon in a while. It’s a good thing for the league the Lakers are still in it. It doesn’t matter what seed they are.
Embiid as the best player has been quitting every year in the playoff deciders and blaming someone else or injuries. That former scoring champion Harden also managed to score less than a non-scorer - Ben Simmons 2 years in a row in a playoff decider. Pair of perineal losers.
Doc be at them post game pressers pleading for his job after playoff loses. Ever since the bubble when he loses he knows hes on the hot seat & quickly goes to defense mode during the post game.
Very similar to round 2 vs bucks last year. Stumbled thru the series go down 3-2 win game 6 on the road and 7y at home and Tatum goes off (game 6 last year)
how is it docs fault when harden scored just 9 and embiid only 15?? and when the stars go off and scored 45 and the team wins then everyone says "oh anybody can coach a team with all that talent; its not the coach its the players that matter" nonsense; which one is it?
Embiid is exposed as the fake MVP. The guy relies on 15 free throws a game to get his 33ppg. Mr. TRUST THE PROCESS for 10 years and he hasn't passed the 2nd round. Sure, you can blame Bum Simmons, Harden, Doc Rivers, but you're the "MVP" and you should play like an MVP to elevate your team on these big moments. Folded like a tent, scores 15 points on like 27% shooting, locked down by old man Horford, and cried like a bitch and blamed his teamates. What a leader.
Nobody is surprised by no show Harden but Embiid cried 2 years for the MVP and laid an absolute egg yesterday. He needs to send Jokic that MVP Trophy Federal Express lol.
The Doc slander is absurd. He's a great coach, all of the other coaches y'all keep naming haven't won nearly as many games as Doc has! Of course he deserves criticism for his teams not getting over the hump BUT this man knows how to get the best out of people but somehow these stars completely fumble at the end when THEY are supposed to show up. Simple as that
@Ty 👀Austin Rivers is that you ? Doc’s career was saved by that 08 chip and he’s been living off it since . Hypothetically, if ariza and Bynum was healthy, I’m pretty sure the Lakers would’ve won in 08 just based on how he fumbles in playoffs .
Devil's Advocate: Philly wasn't picked by ANYONE to win this series. So, taking it to 7 games was overachieving. On the Real: Harden only came out East to get an easy ring and we've all been witness to how that's gone 🤏 (see also Kyrie and KD). 75%+ of his career's been about sticking his leg out and flailing his arms around and falling on the floor and whining to the refs and shooting free throws. Was soooooo nice to see them ignore him, for the most part, in this series. Should put a reel together of his career flops 🍿👀👎. It's bad for the league, it's bad for sports, and it's a bad influence on Embiid who's already contracted that disease. Philly's gotta shake that flop mentality and come correct. Ben Simmons: After everyone on the planet vilified the dude, he just had his best Sunday ever sitting on the couch and staring at a screen. Epic portions of karma were dished around in this series.
You say the 2 best players didn't show up and then you blame the coach Doc? I'm curious to see what coach could have got them to win this series not being favored by anyone. Celtics Roster is much better. They have a clueless 34yo rookie coach and still won. The owners and players told him what to do being down 3-2 adding Rob.
Everybody doesn't when every year i get you have to prduce but how many coaches got doc resume wins or loses? The wins that git him to gamev7s? Doc not on the Court.....
Philly needs a wing that can create a shot for himself...And a new offense..giving the ball to Embiid at the foul line every other play doesn't work in the playoffs
I do not agree with y’all. The common denominator is not Doc Rivers. ITS THE INCONSISTENCY FROM THE SUPERSTARS HE COACHED. Cmon man PG and Kawhi blew that 3-1 lead, kawhi having 4 points in the 2nd half of game 7 and then James Harden and Embiid combing for only 24??? James harden alone should’ve had 24+ with Embiid going for 40??? How can you coach when your superstars don’t truly want it?!?!?! GAME 7 is about your SUPERSTARS. Who really wants to win???? Who’s going all out to make sure they can go home, look in the mirror regardless of the results and say “I gave everything I could out on the floor tonight” and you live with it. But the way they quit shouldn’t be on no person but themselves. Poor Doc man it’s just not fair to blame him. I’ll only accept him not closing game 6 out, yes he has some fault there. But he’s also not on the court
Tbh embiid might be a lost cause. His biggest issue is his conditioning. He always looks tired out there, and he always gets hurt which is the absolute worst thing for staying in shape.
Go look at how they came out in Game 6. They had their head up their ass to start the game with Tatum struggling and they only had a 2 point lead after all of that. Tatum came alive and stole the game and then yesterday the Sixers quit in the 3rd quarter as Boston was running them out of the gym.
Yes, Doc is the common denominator. BUT The 6'ers overperformed ALL SEASON and the best of 7 series brought them back down to earth. No one outside of PA was picking the 6ers over the Celtics.
Idk how Chris forgot all about Giannis getting embarrassed in the playoffs after he won MVP. Embiid went out looking bad but Giannis was literally unplayable vs the Heat after he won MVP and his team looked better without him.
Great showing by the MVP on Sunday, played amazing throughout the whole playoffs actually, really shut up the haters who are saying Jokic deserved it!!!!!
Rob shaming Embiid but KD was trash against the nuggets and got blown out even worse and loss in 6 after getting swept last year. Yet, Rob only had sympathy for KD. Not saying Embiid deserves sympathy, because he played like garbage. Just think it's funny how bias comes into play
They didn't even mention Joel's injury in this segment. Why folks forgetting Joel Emblid is hurt w/injury? Why place that much blame on Emblid? They just looking for someone or somebody to hate on........
Is it possible to consider the players? I get it about Doc, BUT... Chris Paul still hasn't won after multiple tries at multiple franchises. Kawhi still hasn't won under Ty Lue and has barely played in the post season. James Harden has been a no show on mukti6ome teams in multiple postseasons. I'm just saying that you can literally do with these other players' history what you are doing with Doc Rivers' history.
The Clippers beat the Suns if Kawhi played. But that's the problem: Kawhi couldn't play.... again. That isn't on Ty Lue. PG was out too, so it was on Westbrook and co. And to their credit, they at least fought. Can't say the same for Embiid
Kawhi is a winner so you cannot put Kawhi in that situation. Doc Rivers is the damn problem and Kawhi just hasn't won yet with Ty because he has been literally hurt practically all the years Ty has been there. But whenever Kawhi is fully healthy you can count on him. There is no player in the league I will choose over a healthy Kawhi in the playoffs. He is just a different player in the playoffs.
Has any coach done less with more like Doc Rivers? Obviously I don’t know anything to be competent to criticize the dude but to look back at all the talent on the rosters he’s had and the results that came from it is wild. In the 24 seasons as a head coach he’s been in the playoffs 19/24 times which sounds good enough. But of the 19 playoff trips he’s had the following: 8 losses in the first round, 8 losses in the semi finals, 1 loss in the conference finals, 1 loss in the NBA finals and 1 ring. When thinking of the talent he’s had to coach 16/19 playoff trips they didn’t get past the second round. He’s given up a 3-1 series lead three times, which is around 25% of all 3-1 series lead losses ever. He’s had another 4 series lost when his team has a 3-2 lead. And his teams when they have three wins in a playoff series are 16-33. Feels crummy to dump on the dude in a sense but it’s hard to say anything besides the dude has underachieved with the rosters he’s been given like crazy and if he didn’t have that one ring in Boston he’d have probably been over and done ten years ago. Was always head scratching how teams that wanted a to get them over the second round hump decided Doc was the one to do it considering his track record says opposite. But even so he will probably get a job somewhere else cause nothing has stopped him yet. Although it may be nice if he took a non contender and built then rather than landing in yet another spot with a stacked roster where anything short of the conference finals is failure. Maybe rediscover some joy by building something of his own rather than guiding the pieces that were already there.
I wanted to say he is the Marvin Lewis of the NBA but Doc got a ring and been on multiple teams. I would try to compare him to famous Head chokes like Marv Levy or Dan Reeves. I don't think there's a basketball coach comparison
Embiid got the MVP out of Sympathy… Jokic had more wins and averaged a TD…he had a better season than his previous 2 He’s also never been lacklustre in the playoffs
Doc Rivers is certified. He’s a championship coach. With multiple coach of the year awards. The Celtics were the better team all year. Stop pretending like it’s anything else but that.
Winning in sports is all about making adjustments. Doc or his staff didn't make any. Embid settled for jump shits instead of posting down low and using his size (aka Joker). Where was the Harden that scored 45? Gotta go o down swinging and call a TO and and get everyone on the same page and then execute. Doc gotta know this and I'm wondering what Sam Cassell was thinking as he saw this happen.
The role players kept them in the first half with Harden and Embiid not doing anything. They needed to show up in the second half to get it done but they didn't.
I trusted the Process would fail from the beginning. Drafting 3 centers in a row was stupid, I never thought Embiid was that guy, nor Ben Simmons, and advocated for them to acquire Jimmy Butler 2yrs prior to when they did-because I knew none of them had that fight in them. Ben and Joel wanted marshmallow stats: all-stars, mvps, ROY, all defensive team…they have no heart to fight for the real prize. If I was Tatum at the end of game 7, when Embiid tried to walk up on me, I’d go Nino Brown on him: “sit yo $5 ass down before I make change!” Embiid is a chump. So is that Sixer team as long as Doc Rivers is HC. THANKS SAM STINKIE!!!
Joel watched game 1 and for some reason decided he needed to rush back. Doc let him and we got that lazy, no spacing, ball stopper Embiid offense unfortunately. Too easy for Boston
Embid was worn out. they constantly switched on D, causing him to guard the perimeter and on offense he was getting the ball 20 ft from the goal. Working too hard. Completely mis used
Doc been eating off that ‘08 titile with the Celtics for years. Props to him😂
We would all do the same thing too. People act like winning the chip at the pro level as a coach and player is easy. Vogel has ring, and he will get another job because of it. Vogel just like Doc can always say he is a championship coach.
@@therealdarrell282 doc a top winning coach ever when it comes to the regular season, Vogel isnt
@@therealdarrell282 I just need this man to at least make a CONFERENCE Finals, let alone an NBA Finals. Just disappointing.
Yeah he about to starve now
The GiG is up
He has that many wins because he’s been living off of that title. He might not get another opportunity so soon this time though.
What happened to the 76ers yesterday in Boston should come as no surprise to anyone and that’s because as you’re teams core you have Joel “can’t get outta the second round” Embiid, James “chokes in the big games” Harden & they’re coached by Doc “blows a series lead” Rivers
Props to Chris and Rob for their honesty about Doc Rivers..I think even Stephen A Smith was still defending him somewhat.
Yeah it's pathetic
Idk what doc supposed to do when your best players have more turnovers then made baskets 😂
Stephen A needs to be drug tested...my lord there's no defending Doc anymore
Somewhat? SAS still praises him like he's Phil Jackson. Doc is the most overrated coach in team sports history.
Doc Rivers is a dear friend…he loves him like a brotha
Embid and James H had no heart left in the end....they gave up on the floor.
Soft Philly lost more then they’ll ever know letting jimmy go
They gave up in the 3rd quarter. I guarantee you the Heat with Butler and Spo would never quit in a game. This is on Doc.
@@ryanflynn6819 Its crazy to even think about it now
Embiid was dealing with a tear in his leg. He shouldn’t had played. Harden was trash for most of the series.
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Embiid and Doc did the same thing when they lost to Atlanta placed the blame at the feet of Ben. For the record Ben didn’t play good but a star player and the Head Coach shouldn’t be putting the loss on the other star player when it’s a team game. These dudes have no accountability and you can never win with guys like that.
Embiid to me has to cop most criticism. Harden at least won a game for them and played better without Embiid. How the hell you play that bad then blame your players that played better then you. Why didn't Embiid keep up that same energy he had for winning MVP award as for winning games.
Bingo
I love Rob when he uses the sarcastic humor he says "oh yeah fiber is good for your body" had me cracking up love you dudes man and the work yall do keep it up
Yeah I was on the floor 💀🤣🤣🤣
It’s over…Harden tryin to hit up the Houston strip clubs with coach Udoka in a slab full of ones.
Nah this crazy 😂 I live in Houston and this accurate
Facts!!!
Where dem dollars at....where dem dollars at.... LMAO 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Between the Ja Morant foolishness and the Sixers collapse, I was waiting on this episode 😂
Conclusion- Ja has better Judgment than the good Doctor 😂
After the Celtics sent him home Doc Rivers cried himself to sleep holding that 2008 ring like Gollum.
My precious! Precioussss
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ethanabraham6830 Where Frodo at to get his ring? 😂
@@anthonycelestin3559KG and Paul Pierce are Sam and Mr. Frodo.
@@datsapaddlin 😂😂😂😂
This is why I love TNT so much bc Shaq, Charles and Kenny truly speak upon situations they really were in. Shaq has repeatedly said big games are about your stars going toe to toe. You even learn this growing up playing sports that your coach can only do SO much. YOU have to go execute
I knew the sympathy MVP and his team were gonna fall short 😂.
As a Sixer fan, I have learned to not have any championship expectations. Brett Brown has taken us the same place Doc Rivers has taken us
76ers might have won with Brown if Kawhi’s shot didn’t go in
James Harden is the biggest CHOKE Artist 🎨 since Tony Romo, and yes I am a Cowboys fan😂
@Jim Wilson Yes he did! He would have some of the greatest offensive season, but when it came time to win a game to get into the playoffs he would throw three picks, and fumble. Tony Romo was always the reason his yeams came up short. Stats and just go watch those games back me up.
I knew Harden was going to choke after I saw his outfit 😭🤣. Not to mention the history of him, Doc Rivers and the Sixers
That beard needs to be cut off
I knew he was going to choke b/c he’s a choker..
Boston is just really good, this their 5th conference finals in 7 years and probably will be representing the Eastern Conference for consecutive years.
They played like crap all series. Up and down games from Tatum which why makes this loss even worse.
This aged really bad 😂
@@reneeannoh8269 yeah man very bad 😂😂😂
Finally, we get to hear these guys address Embid's comments
They literally did lol
@@Montbtw I made the comment before watching it. Sorry, I was just kind of hyped to hear what they might say.
@@bryanstarke2931 All good, my dude
@@bryanstarke2931 I was wondering too, glad they said it. Wild comments
I would pay a lot of money to see Brou’s college tapes
An Absolute Travesty from Embiid and Harden
Doc is the ultimate hustler. He made millions and millions since that 08 superteam 😂
I wouldn’t go that far. It’s plenty of coaches not worth anything
So so when is rob going to talk about how Lakers beat his warriors huh?
Harden having 9 points make me laugh ill be laughing all the way into the next year playoffs
Pj Tucker should've stayed with the heat now he see Philly not like that 😊
They're saying the MVP is a regular season award but all I was hearing was "Jokic can't have 3 MVPs in a row, he hasn't even won the championship. The other players that did it won". People need to make up their minds and be consistent smh.
MVP is a joke. They've been having hypocritical arguments about it for years to justify why each person won it. idk why people are even surprised at this point
Midway through the 1st quarter, I would have called time out and told my 76er players. We're going to double-team Tatum every time he touches the ball. We're gonna give him the Jordan/Kobe treatment. Make someone other than Tatum and Brown beat us. Capiche?
Everyone was so quick to hype up Harden. The problem was never that he CAN'T give you 40.The problem is that he WILL give you 9 🤣
I would have accepted Embiid's answer if he would have included Maxey in his little club with Harden. He's the only sixer with heart and occasionally Harris.
Doc still living off 08.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Memories💍.. 😥🏆😂
And he had the OG big three. Honestly im surprised he even won with them considering how bad he’s been since.
@@TheTurtle1100 it took a lot of game 7s for them to win that year
Been saying this 💯
His teams are constantly top 4 teams in their conferences and he consistently has winning records. He’s lived up to his coaching, as far as the playoffs look at how many coaches have rings vs those that don’t.
Embiid: “When I play like 💩, I need everyone else to make up for it.” Wow, what a leader.
People like Chris were saying bc of Jokic’s current playoff resume without his starters he shouldn’t get 3 straight then gave it to someone with a worse resume
99% of the time, the NBA league MVP never wins a title in the same year.
It was his turn !!! 😂😂 too funny
@@HardCold-Alquan Exactly so why were so many using that as their excuse to not give it to someone who deserves it to turn right around and give it to someone who doesn’t have playoff success at all
@@comebackkid5976 Well, if you are Jokic right now, would you rather have another league MVP or be the first in a crop of players to finally get The Nuggets to the Finals? If they win, it is like the Browns, Bills, Jets or Clippers winning! However, I believe that the NBA is fixed and they are giving the title to The Lakers so that James can at least have 5 titles to match Magic and Kobe before he retires.
The Embid SPorts Network blamed it on Harden only...
It's crazy Doc couldn't get Kawhi and PG to the WCF, Ty Lue got there immediately and without Kawhi. Doc really eating lol.
Where the MVP at...I know where he aint...SINCE CONFERENCE FINALS BOUT TO START! But its Jokics playoff resume ya'll wanna question. The guy whos bout to tip off his 2nd straight WCF-when he isnt missing Jamal,MPJ,& about 3 or 4 other role players who missed playoffs last 2 yrs.
But at least Embied got his MVP-most important thing to him. He can stroke that trophy all offseason. And can we get this man another trophy that says "1st round champions?" They have won 1st round 5 of 6 yrs ya know!(also got swept 1st round once) And besides...none of it is his fault anyways!
Philly/Miami in the conference finals would’ve been disgusting. I’m glad Celtics finally decided to stop playing with their food. If they try it with Miami, Jimmy will make them pay
Chris can't wait to always talk about how he used to hoop in college 😂😂😂
Bc people keep acting like he’s completely ignorant about basketball
Common denominator is Embid, he thinks he's a guard and doesn't like to bang on the low block. MVBum
This is what happens when an entire league depends on the 3 pointer. They are inconsistent. This is the most inconsistent season I’ve ever seen. Usually the nba is the most reliable league when it comes to expectations. We usually expect the 1 and 2 seeds to make it. This is a terrible nba season. This is the type of basketball you can expect when you have every position shooting 3s
Point the finger at Stern because the game went from post play and changed to the European style of play where your bigs are shooting 3s and nobody plays in the paint unless nobody is within two feet of you.
You’ve got a point . I haven’t seen this many of the top 4 seeds go out this soon in a while. It’s a good thing for the league the Lakers are still in it. It doesn’t matter what seed they are.
Thank you for being honest
Embiid as the best player has been quitting every year in the playoff deciders and blaming someone else or injuries. That former scoring champion Harden also managed to score less than a non-scorer - Ben Simmons 2 years in a row in a playoff decider. Pair of perineal losers.
Whatever pregame speech doc gave had little affect of motivating his players. They(Embiid & Harden) were halfhearted from opening tip off
Doc be at them post game pressers pleading for his job after playoff loses. Ever since the bubble when he loses he knows hes on the hot seat & quickly goes to defense mode during the post game.
Very similar to round 2 vs bucks last year. Stumbled thru the series go down 3-2 win game 6 on the road and 7y at home and Tatum goes off (game 6 last year)
Props to rob 4 what listen to what he said WHEN HE HERD HARDEN LAID AN EGG DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE GAME BUT SPEAKING ON IT WOWW
You guys aren’t shocked? That’s your MVP, isn’t it?
Calm down T'challa
What don’t you understand by regular season award? Do you need me to explain in Spanish or something bud?
@@Coop1250okic had a better regular season what dont YOU get
@@thebeesknees6896 you must need a new TV
Another common denominator for failure: Morey and Harden.
how is it docs fault when harden scored just 9 and embiid only 15?? and when the stars go off and scored 45 and the team wins then everyone says "oh anybody can coach a team with all that talent; its not the coach its the players that matter"
nonsense; which one is it?
This is the one thing as of late that I agree with you Chris.
Doc is a Robber Baron.. 😂💰🏝💰😁
One ring in four seasons with KG, Pierce, Allen, and Rondo. ONE. That's a massive red flag right there
Love these two! We miss the real from Rob P!
Embiid is exposed as the fake MVP. The guy relies on 15 free throws a game to get his 33ppg. Mr. TRUST THE PROCESS for 10 years and he hasn't passed the 2nd round. Sure, you can blame Bum Simmons, Harden, Doc Rivers, but you're the "MVP" and you should play like an MVP to elevate your team on these big moments. Folded like a tent, scores 15 points on like 27% shooting, locked down by old man Horford, and cried like a bitch and blamed his teamates. What a leader.
Doc doesnt seem to have any dirt on brother broussard
I paid for it, I'm gonna use it! 😂
James harden continuing to stink it up in the playoffs is great
Nobody is surprised by no show Harden but Embiid cried 2 years for the MVP and laid an absolute egg yesterday. He needs to send Jokic that MVP Trophy Federal Express lol.
The Doc slander is absurd. He's a great coach, all of the other coaches y'all keep naming haven't won nearly as many games as Doc has! Of course he deserves criticism for his teams not getting over the hump BUT this man knows how to get the best out of people but somehow these stars completely fumble at the end when THEY are supposed to show up. Simple as that
@Ty 👀Austin Rivers is that you ?
Doc’s career was saved by that 08 chip and he’s been living off it since . Hypothetically, if ariza and Bynum was healthy, I’m pretty sure the Lakers would’ve won in 08 just based on how he fumbles in playoffs .
I’d imagine all the writers that Joel talked into playing the race card with their mvp ballots feel pretty let down right now
Devil's Advocate: Philly wasn't picked by ANYONE to win this series. So, taking it to 7 games was overachieving.
On the Real: Harden only came out East to get an easy ring and we've all been witness to how that's gone 🤏 (see also Kyrie and KD). 75%+ of his career's been about sticking his leg out and flailing his arms around and falling on the floor and whining to the refs and shooting free throws. Was soooooo nice to see them ignore him, for the most part, in this series. Should put a reel together of his career flops 🍿👀👎. It's bad for the league, it's bad for sports, and it's a bad influence on Embiid who's already contracted that disease. Philly's gotta shake that flop mentality and come correct.
Ben Simmons: After everyone on the planet vilified the dude, he just had his best Sunday ever sitting on the couch and staring at a screen. Epic portions of karma were dished around in this series.
You say the 2 best players didn't show up and then you blame the coach Doc? I'm curious to see what coach could have got them to win this series not being favored by anyone. Celtics Roster is much better. They have a clueless 34yo rookie coach and still won. The owners and players told him what to do being down 3-2 adding Rob.
Embid to the Nets for Bridges & the young center and two number one's.
Embiid is a cancer nobody would want him
I love these guys man 🤣🤣🤣
Everybody doesn't when every year i get you have to prduce but how many coaches got doc resume wins or loses? The wins that git him to gamev7s? Doc not on the Court.....
Philly needs a wing that can create a shot for himself...And a new offense..giving the ball to Embiid at the foul line every other play doesn't work in the playoffs
I do not agree with y’all. The common denominator is not Doc Rivers. ITS THE INCONSISTENCY FROM THE SUPERSTARS HE COACHED. Cmon man PG and Kawhi blew that 3-1 lead, kawhi having 4 points in the 2nd half of game 7 and then James Harden and Embiid combing for only 24??? James harden alone should’ve had 24+ with Embiid going for 40??? How can you coach when your superstars don’t truly want it?!?!?! GAME 7 is about your SUPERSTARS. Who really wants to win???? Who’s going all out to make sure they can go home, look in the mirror regardless of the results and say “I gave everything I could out on the floor tonight” and you live with it. But the way they quit shouldn’t be on no person but themselves. Poor Doc man it’s just not fair to blame him. I’ll only accept him not closing game 6 out, yes he has some fault there. But he’s also not on the court
Tbh embiid might be a lost cause. His biggest issue is his conditioning. He always looks tired out there, and he always gets hurt which is the absolute worst thing for staying in shape.
Go look at how they came out in Game 6. They had their head up their ass to start the game with Tatum struggling and they only had a 2 point lead after all of that. Tatum came alive and stole the game and then yesterday the Sixers quit in the 3rd quarter as Boston was running them out of the gym.
Yes, Doc is the common denominator. BUT The 6'ers overperformed ALL SEASON and the best of 7 series brought them back down to earth. No one outside of PA was picking the 6ers over the Celtics.
Idk how Chris forgot all about Giannis getting embarrassed in the playoffs after he won MVP. Embiid went out looking bad but Giannis was literally unplayable vs the Heat after he won MVP and his team looked better without him.
I never trusted Embid ever since he Scored 1 point in 33minutes against Toronto regular season 2019😆😆😆
Great showing by the MVP on Sunday, played amazing throughout the whole playoffs actually, really shut up the haters who are saying Jokic deserved it!!!!!
He did deserve it
I can't seem to find any talk about the Lakers lately. Wonder why that is🤔
Rob shaming Embiid but KD was trash against the nuggets and got blown out even worse and loss in 6 after getting swept last year. Yet, Rob only had sympathy for KD. Not saying Embiid deserves sympathy, because he played like garbage. Just think it's funny how bias comes into play
Embiid is the greatest defender eveeeeeeeer
They didn't even mention Joel's injury in this segment. Why folks forgetting Joel Emblid is hurt w/injury? Why place that much blame on Emblid? They just looking for someone or somebody to hate on........
Doc is saying in his Brittney spears voice "oops, I did it again!"
😂😂 imagine if he just said that quote in his hard gravel voice.
Is it possible to consider the players? I get it about Doc, BUT...
Chris Paul still hasn't won after multiple tries at multiple franchises.
Kawhi still hasn't won under Ty Lue and has barely played in the post season.
James Harden has been a no show on mukti6ome teams in multiple postseasons.
I'm just saying that you can literally do with these other players' history what you are doing with Doc Rivers' history.
The Clippers beat the Suns if Kawhi played. But that's the problem: Kawhi couldn't play.... again. That isn't on Ty Lue. PG was out too, so it was on Westbrook and co. And to their credit, they at least fought. Can't say the same for Embiid
Kawhi is a winner so you cannot put Kawhi in that situation. Doc Rivers is the damn problem and Kawhi just hasn't won yet with Ty because he has been literally hurt practically all the years Ty has been there. But whenever Kawhi is fully healthy you can count on him. There is no player in the league I will choose over a healthy Kawhi in the playoffs. He is just a different player in the playoffs.
So no segment on the lakers? What a bunch of clowns 😂
Two things can be true harden and embid gave up they got no heart at all and doc can’t make an adjustment to save the word
Has any coach done less with more like Doc Rivers? Obviously I don’t know anything to be competent to criticize the dude but to look back at all the talent on the rosters he’s had and the results that came from it is wild. In the 24 seasons as a head coach he’s been in the playoffs 19/24 times which sounds good enough. But of the 19 playoff trips he’s had the following: 8 losses in the first round, 8 losses in the semi finals, 1 loss in the conference finals, 1 loss in the NBA finals and 1 ring. When thinking of the talent he’s had to coach 16/19 playoff trips they didn’t get past the second round. He’s given up a 3-1 series lead three times, which is around 25% of all 3-1 series lead losses ever. He’s had another 4 series lost when his team has a 3-2 lead. And his teams when they have three wins in a playoff series are 16-33. Feels crummy to dump on the dude in a sense but it’s hard to say anything besides the dude has underachieved with the rosters he’s been given like crazy and if he didn’t have that one ring in Boston he’d have probably been over and done ten years ago. Was always head scratching how teams that wanted a to get them over the second round hump decided Doc was the one to do it considering his track record says opposite. But even so he will probably get a job somewhere else cause nothing has stopped him yet. Although it may be nice if he took a non contender and built then rather than landing in yet another spot with a stacked roster where anything short of the conference finals is failure. Maybe rediscover some joy by building something of his own rather than guiding the pieces that were already there.
Horrible mvp pick your vote should be revoked
I wanted to say he is the Marvin Lewis of the NBA but Doc got a ring and been on multiple teams. I would try to compare him to famous Head chokes like Marv Levy or Dan Reeves. I don't think there's a basketball coach comparison
Wht team got better & won sumthin after Doc Rivers left?
WHATS WRONG CHRIS, YOU DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT STEPH &THE WARRIORS TODAY 😂
Embiid got the MVP out of Sympathy…
Jokic had more wins and averaged a TD…he had a better season than his previous 2
He’s also never been lacklustre in the playoffs
No Joel to my Knicks he's paper soft no mistakes I have been a Knicks fan my whole life and this is the best we have been since the spreewell era
Trust the process 😅
Doc Rivers is certified. He’s a championship coach. With multiple coach of the year awards. The Celtics were the better team all year. Stop pretending like it’s anything else but that.
Winning in sports is all about making adjustments. Doc or his staff didn't make any. Embid settled for jump shits instead of posting down low and using his size (aka Joker). Where was the Harden that scored 45? Gotta go o down swinging and call a TO and and get everyone on the same page and then execute. Doc gotta know this and I'm wondering what Sam Cassell was thinking as he saw this happen.
No one in Philly is shocked.. just pissed.
Luv these guys lmfao
Embiid went 0-4 from 3 point range, YIKES!!
The role players kept them in the first half with Harden and Embiid not doing anything. They needed to show up in the second half to get it done but they didn't.
I trusted the Process would fail from the beginning. Drafting 3 centers in a row was stupid, I never thought Embiid was that guy, nor Ben Simmons, and advocated for them to acquire Jimmy Butler 2yrs prior to when they did-because I knew none of them had that fight in them. Ben and Joel wanted marshmallow stats: all-stars, mvps, ROY, all defensive team…they have no heart to fight for the real prize.
If I was Tatum at the end of game 7, when Embiid tried to walk up on me, I’d go Nino Brown on him: “sit yo $5 ass down before I make change!”
Embiid is a chump. So is that Sixer team as long as Doc Rivers is HC.
THANKS SAM STINKIE!!!
I don’t see where the sixers come back as a franchise from this at the moment they have to make a huge trade to get another dependable piece
Joel watched game 1 and for some reason decided he needed to rush back. Doc let him and we got that lazy, no spacing, ball stopper Embiid offense unfortunately. Too easy for Boston
Jokic is the real mvp
Joker is the TRUE MVP. Embiid CHOKED and Joker FEASTING
Chris said he played college basketball I looked up his stats there is no stats is this thing on Rob Parker voice 🗣️😂😂😂😂
Embid was worn out. they constantly switched on D, causing him to guard the perimeter and on offense he was getting the ball 20 ft from the goal. Working too hard. Completely mis used
It's official. Doc Rivers license has been revoked. We now have to revert to his original name of Glenn Rivers
No way no how!!!!!!
If embiid doesn’t FEEL like he suppose to win he doesn’t play as hard 💯 he needs a jimmy butler or kyrie (a popular player) on his team.
My cousin was right James harden is a choker when it comes
To big games, he will never learn
Tobia Harris is overrated big time
Congrats on picking ONE of the four second round series correctly, Brou. 😅