One thing that wasn't mentioned in this video. After Titanic sank, Olympic and Britannic were dramatically upgraded. They installed electric davits. They raised the water tight doors from E-deck all the way up to B-deck. They installed a double-hull. Titanic only had a double-bottom. After these upgrades, Britannic and Olympic could stay afloat even if 6 compartments were breached. The double-hull alone would have saved Titanic though since it only grazed the iceberg.
@mindgames50 Olympic never sank. It led a long life, and it was scrapped in 1935. Britannic sank because it was torpedoed or hit a mine in WW1. No ship can survive an attack like that. Very few people died, though, because of the safety features that were installed after the Titanic sank.
I’m pretty sure it was definitively proven that a mine sunk Brittanic. I think the confusion came from the German navy stating it was a torpedo, but the damage is that of a mine. Many of her portholes were open at the time of her sinking and I have read the claim that had they been shut, it would’ve prevented excessive flooding and she may have stayed afloat. How true that is, I am not sure. 30 people died on Brittanic, and several of those occurred when lifeboats were lowered as she had a list that had her propeller above water level. People were killed when the lifeboats hit the propeller. Olympic had a collision with the Hawke, but never sank.
@@Justmemyguy Olympic had at least three collisions in her life. One, before Titanic sank, was the Hawke, another, toward the end of her career, was a Nantucket lightship. The third was a very much deliberate ramming of a U-boat
HATS OFF to the Titanic crew working so hard......risking and LOSING their lives to give the survivors as much time as possible to abandon ship......BRAVE MEN, RIP - you guys are THE true world Heros.
Back when men were men and ready to die for the people around them. Because it was the right thing to do. Now everyone would whip their phones out to people who needed help and then post it on instragram. The survivors would then do anything they could to get famous off of it like go on talk shows and act like they were hero’s and saving people when in reality they were too cowardess and selfish to help another person.
So absolutely true - us men back then were able to just 'be men'. Sacrificing lives to save the women and children by giving them time to evacuate. All the men knew they were dead anyhow. So very sad. RIP.
I think its amazing how we havent really forgotten about the titanic. Ive been obsessed since a child and i regularly go through my phase of obsession with this tragedy.
Same here. I was fascinated by it as a child, probably because I crossed the Atlantic twice on the great steamer France, which was even bigger, and every few years I‘ll go on another spree. The Titan drama has set me off on yet another binge of Titanic and Lusitania videos and the resulting ruminations on the human condition…
The crew keeping the lights on also saved lives. It helped passengers find there way through the ship to a lifeboat. Also kept power on to the wireless room so Harold Bride could continue to send distress calls out and kept the pumps running.
@@salvationbygracethroughfaith in emergencies people act instinctively. doesnt matter the year or time period. you will have heros and cowards in every era
@@FordSierraIS You'll have heroes and cowards in every era. Just a lot more heroes back when women were thin, pretty, sweet and Feminine. Hint: men aren't going to shovel coal for women who claim Lizzo is beautiful. Paying welfare is bad enough.
After 30+ years of studying the RMS Titanic I believe it was pointless to evaluate the passengers with just the “Women and Children” policy and MORE lives would have been saved. But of course many of the passengers didn’t want to get into a lifeboat bc they were scared of a little wooden boat versus what the Titanic had to offer. Many of the passengers also didn’t think the ship was actually sinking. It was just a bunch of mix confusions of what happened that night
@@ChairmanPaulieD It is questionable wether or not a lack of the order"Women and children first" would´ve save more lives,considering many men would not have entered a lifeboat anyway,atleast as long as they saw women and children still aboard What would certainly have helped to save more lives was Lightroller NOT interpreting that Order as "Women and children only"...something he should´ve been prosecuted for
@@NashmanNash yeah I definitely agree with you on that about Lightoller bc he was so adamant about making sure not a single male passenger or even a 15 year old male teenager/ passenger boarded a lifeboat he was launching. I really wonder if that night did Thomas Andrews confront Lightoller telling him to fill up the lifeboats as what took place in the JC 97 film
@@ChairmanPaulieD I’m certain Andrews and Lightoller never had such a conversation; Lightoller didn’t load any of the boats under his charge to anywhere near full capacity that night.
One last thing, I find it amazing how close Thomas Andrews calculations for a time frame in the inevitable sinking of the ship when compared with the computer simulation and calculations. That really shows how well he knew that ship and also is a testament to the accuracy of calculations figured by computer models. Then how after more accurately estimating the data of the effects of all the weight from the coal transfer shifted the time estimates very close to the actual sink time. Just incredible.
Historically speaking, if I had a nickel for every preventable disaster that has occurred due to the thinking of "the chances of that happening are nearly impossible," then I'd have like all these nickels.
@@daniel117100 fair enough, but not all the time. And sometimes those perceived cost cutting measures end up costing more. Regardless of the reason, I get another nickel. 😉
Boiler room 5 was the battleground of the sinking. All the efforts to save the ship were focused there. The crew knew that if they lost it, the battle was over and all they could do then was delay the inevitable. Ultimately, her sinking on a more or less even keel saved more lives. The incredible run of bad luck leading to the sinking was counter balanced by a run of good luck during the sinking. I agree with your sentiment, Titanic was built strong and that workmanship paid dividends that terrible evening.
The crew already knew they lost the battle. The Titanic already had 4 compartments full with her 5th and 6th compartments taking on water. They did what they did because it gave the passengers more time to escape
First officer Murdock made a crucial mistake when he rang down for FULL ASTERN. By doing so the first thing the engineers had to go was stop the center engine. This engine was spinning the center propeller at 165 rpms which was right in front of the rudder!. Once the prop stopped Murdock had lost most of his sterage,causing the ship to turn just slightly to port causing a glancing blow causing more damage.Murdock should have known better than to order full astern as he already had made several trips across the pond with Titanics sister ship Olympic and knew how it operated.and
@@arthurclarke6703 This has been disproven. Murdock did not order the engines full astern (which would absolutely cripple the ship's steering), but he ordered them full stop. The whole "full astern" thing comes from 4th Officer Boxhall, who wasn't even on the bridge during the entire collision and every other officer that gave testimony stated she'd been ordered full stop. They did what they could, and it wasn't enough. Sucks how cut and dry that is, but it's life sometimes
@pc_buildyb0i Then the movie TITANIC Is wrong? It shows the center propeller stopped. This is why it didn't turn to port. No thrust against the rudder.
@@arthurclarke6703 Yes, the Titanic movie is wrong. And yes, they should have kept power to the props so the rudder was working at full capacity, but stopping the engines did impact the rudder's performance.
The part of the video I found most interesting was the part where you mentioned most ships capsize instead of spiking up towards the sky like the titanic did. Fitting that the most famous shipwreck in history, sunk in the most dramatic way possible.
When I started going down this maritime history rabbit-hole, I was shocked to learn how fast it took for some ships to sink - Lusitania, Empress of Ireland, etc. Those ships hardly had time for the crew to get the lifeboats ready, for all they had enough lifeboats for all aboard. It seems like a longer sinking like the Titanic is more rare.
@@jennycallander Not weapons the secondary explosion was caused by an ignition of the coal dust and oxygen mixture that the U-20s torpedo set off. Dr. Robert Ballard proved this in his expedition to the Lusitania back in the 1990s.
@@anthonylowder6687 The only thing Ballard proved was that it wasn't an ammunitions explosion. He didn't prove it was coal dust. In fact, experiments were done and the experts couldnt't agree on the exact cause.
@@anthonylowder6687 Actually it was more likely a steam pipe burst, which would explain the loss of engine power as well. The water flooding in from the torpedo hit would have actually severely reduced the risk of a coal dust explosion.
@@AdmiralBlackstar Research as shown that neither coal,or steam pipes,would have created a blast of the nature the survivors described,now have enough power to do the damage to cause her to go down that fast.They have pretty much come to the conclusion,that there was unlisted munitions in the forward holds,and that was the secondary blast.
To be fair, Titanic WAS a very safe ship. It held together for as long as it did with a fatal structural damage. Even though it isn’t “unsinkable” like some say it was claimed to be, it genuinely was built well and staffed with professionals. Any other staff or ship wouldn’t have lasted
@@JamesBond-er1hk Apparently it was so dark binocs would have done little anyway and wasn't common practice to use them on white star liners. The fault lies with the captain and the bridge, in an effort to get their as quickly as possible they went straight through the iceberg ridden area despite warnings to navigate around. The captain was known to be reckless and operate at full speed regardless of the dangers. Lightoller's memoirs are very informative surrounding this. The ship was astoundingly safe for the time but once again it was human error. You can drive the safest car in the world but if you crash at 120MPH it won't make much difference.
@@Blox117 yeah the protocol was to only slow down when you actually see something the inquiry ultimately concluded that while the current protocol was wrong, nobody did anything that was known to be reckless
The Titanic was said to have 3 anchors, one near the bow, one amidships, and one for the stern. The combination of each anchor and its chain was said to weigh about 1,000 metric tons. They say that the crew released the bow anchor and its chain into the ocean depths almost immediately. That makes sense. Otherwise, the extra weight near the bow of the ship would made the water overtop the watertight compartments near the bow faster. They say that the rear anchor and its chain was never let go. That made sense initially, since the principle of leverage meant that sagging in the stern from the weight of the stern anchor and its anchor chain would provide a little bit of lift to the bow. Toward the end, however, the extra "moment", the extra bending effect, was severe enough to help cause the stern to break off, severely degrading watertight integrity. They say that the middle anchor and its anchor chain was never let go. Not letting go of that extra 1,000 tons of weight could have been a mistake. With essentially no stern versus bow leverage effect like the leverage effect from retaining the stern anchor, that middle anchor and its chain was mostly a 1,000 ton load of metal making the whole length of the ship settle deeper into the water, including engine room number 5 with its vital pumping equipment. It is possible that engine room number 5, and the length of the ship as a whole, if sitting a just a little bit less deeply in the water, could have survived much longer, perhaps long enough for other ships to arrive to help with the pumping of water, and to help with the throwing of unnecessary weight into the sea, and with the rescue of passengers. Short version: The 3 anchors and their chains each had a considerable amount of weight. Whether or not to let go each individual anchor and its anchor chain had a considerable bearing on the story of how long Titanic lasted after colliding with the iceberg, as well as on the rupture at the stern just before Titanic sank. Perhaps someone should do a computer study someday on the effect of the decision making regarding releasing versus not releasing each of the ship's anchors after the collision with the iceberg.
Titanic did have 3 anchors, but they were all on the bow. There was one on each side, we can even see them on the wreck, and the 3rd was on the forecastle on the very front under the crane. The hole at the very front is where it would've been hung from had it been needed, since it was the spare.
I find it absolutely amazing that it just happened to play out the way it did with the repositioning of the coal to the port side and that she hit the berg on the starboard side. If she has hit the berg on the port side, she would have capsized no doubt. I also find it amazing that with that repositioning of the coal that the Titanic never rolled over. Even on her way to the bottom, she is still sitting upright on the bottom, both the bow and stern sections both upright. She went down in a very unusual way. I agree, ships don't usually sink the way the Titanic did. Most ships do capsize when they sink. Very unusual, but it's fascinating to me that she's still upright.
Yes - of the five most famous shipwrecks of the twentieth century - the Titanic, the Empress of Ireland, the Lusitania, the Britannic, and the Andrea Doria, the Titanic is the only one whose wreck is sitting upright on the ocean floor. However, I would additionally point out that of the five, not is she only one that didn't capsize, she also sank in by far the deepest water, over 12,000 feet, as opposed to the others which all sank in less than 600 feet. That gave the two pieces of the hull time to level out during the descent to the sea bed, a benefit the other ships didn't have.
@@biggiesmalls3096 Yeah I've never wanted to start a collection of ocean liner models but here we are. Turns out the youtuber Oceanliner Designs has his own website and he's the best guy for those. You can find a million websites for selling models but he sells everything 500 or 200 scale, so the models will actually have accurate size comparisons. Plus they'll already be painted.
Same, I was thinking about that.. Anyone who makes Titanic related youtube content is cashing in right now, like flag stores after September 11th... I was super obsessed with the Franklin expedition too when the ships were found. That one is fascinating. ANything where everyone dies and there is tons of mystery surrounding it... Look into the Franklin Expedition...
Andrews said the ship would sink in about 1.5 hours after his inspection, and not after the impact. It probably took him 30-60 minutes to complete the inspection, so his calculation was correct.
My heart goes out to the crew because they KNEW they were going to die while trying to save the ships passengers and they pressed on anyway. The mail crew died while trying to save all the mail for the passengers. HEROIC!!!! But the captain was warned in advance about the approaching ice berg field ahead but he refused to take evasive measures because he was so confident in the ships design and ability. Wow, just an epic but tragic experience.
@mauricehumphrey545 - the way you've laid out this tragedy is a mini story for countless tragic events, and business crashes. People doing what they shouldn't and who failed to prepare those around them for disaster, others that watched and didn't say a word, yet others that work tirelessly to buy time for everyone because they know they must, those that perish, and those that survive as someone different than they were. No matter how often that happens - because people generally forget disasters like this and fail to see parallels to other walks of life - we continue to fall in to the same situation over and over again.
Sam's passion for the Titanic is awesome. I love each and every one of his uploads. But at the end of them all I always have the same thoughts. Just staring at the floor blankly wondering why such a well built and beautifully crafted ship rests at the bottom of the Atlantic on it's first voyage. A labor of love gone with too many souls lost...
Hey Sam! Could you do a video commenting on clips from Titanic survivors? There are so many super cool videos of Titanic survivors talking about their experiences and I’d love to hear your commentary on their telling of the story. Great videos!! Keep ‘em coming!
Wow I haven’t checked back on this channel in a few months!!! When I was first here you had only like 2K subs… looks like you are blowing up! Glad you are still doing what you a passionate about!
If you pull on that string, it opens a secret compartment on the Titanic which will reveal an embarrassing picture of Spongebob at the Christmas party! In all seriousness, excellent video man, I always enjoy your Titanic deep dives and I love the time and research you put into things. Edit: If the Titanic sank because she was badly built than Olympic would have sunk after her collision with the HMS Hawke and she would have sank after that torpedo struck her hull and left that huge gaping hole that no one noticed until she was in dry dock. These ships were well built, but they weren't designed to take that amount of stress. The fact that Titanic lasted as long as she did is a miracle, as you've stated, and people should acknowledge that as well.
Thanks for going through the safety features of Titanic. They give better context to the assertions of the builders that the ship was "unsinkable". Too bad the confidence in these safety measures lead to hubris and a disaster that was thought impossible.
Andrews did not say ship would sink in "an hour to an hour and a half" from the time of collision, but from time he'd finished his inspection and calculations, which was about 12:20am - making his total estimated time of sinking about two and a quarter hours.
Right when Andrew's had started calculated the time it was after the ship already was sinking not as soon as it hit..so when he said hour 2 at the most it around 1230a which would take it to to around 2am which was still accurate on how long it actually took from when it hit until it sank almost 3 hrs
That was excellent. The list also slowed the sinking because damage was in shallower water. That same 3 degree list to port meant a list on the other side. Shallower water means less pressure, so perhaps it doesn't rush in with the same velocity had it been 10 feet deeper.
There's a documentary, can't remember what it's called, but part of it focuses on what was happening down in Boiler Room #5. Part of the reason that the crew was able to hold the water back was because the iceberg didn't puncture the boiler room, but rather, the coal bunker in front of it. You could go as far as to call it "Titanic's Achilles heel". The thing with the coal bunker was that while it was containing the water, it wasn't built to be watertight. Eventually, the amount of water pressure in the bunker continued to build and build and build, until the bunker could no longer stand the amount of water pressure within. The coal bunker, in question, happened to be the same one that was on fire throughout the voyage. Whether or not the fire helped weaken the bunker is a question that can't really be answered. When it collapsed, I think it was around the same time, that as survivors described, Titanic took a very sudden dip deeper into the water. That was where the battle to save Titanic was eventually lost.
Some say the engineers were trimming the ship too. Maybe they were, maybe they weren’t. What is certain, though is they made the sea fight for every inch of the ship. A losing battle, for sure, and they knew it, but they didn’t go down without one hell of a fight. None of them survived, but they died buying time to get all but two of the boats away.
This is why I hate when people say "Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats". The crew barely had enough time to launch all the lifeboats with almost three hours of time! Even if Titanic had the full complement of lifeboats (48) 28 lifeboats would of been pulled down with the ship. I don't think people realize just how quickly most ships sink (Which makes Titanic even more fascinating)!
The crew had more than enough time to launch the lifeboats. 10-15 mins per boat. They just didn't know the severity of the damage and waited too long to start launching them. By the time they decided to launch them the ship was at mass panic.
Thank you sooo much for this video! I understood a lot and it's exactly what you said at the end, a combination of things that made the sinking last for so long. Keep going!
hey! love you videos and streams been coming around for a long time now! i have learned so much and want to say thank you! also someday i would love to see historic travels tackle other kinda of travel from aviation like plane's and zeplin's to trains and everything in between!
@@projectswithjw I'll have to check them out - I'm fairly new to the channel. But my favorite subject is the Titanic and I'm glad that's the majority of the content
Another informative video and thank you. I plan to heed your advice and check out the link to the video you recommended. I love historical information documentation on just about every topic and there seems to be a never ending amount of material out there. 👍👍 and I will be checking out that video in roughly 3 minutes and 54 seconds.
They did a discovery channel or something special in 2012 and they basically came to the conclusion that Titanic itself didn't kill 1500 people, it in fact saved the 700+
Mmm..it apparently had design flaws however. I believe they made adjustments to its sister ship(s) afterwards. If the Titanic had those same characteristics, it probably wouldn’t have sunk. Furthermore, apparently the crew could have prevented this all together as there were warnings about the burgs that were supposedly not taken seriously enough.
@@exasperated as I said, the Titanic herself didn't kill anyone, it wasn't bad steel, faulty rivets, the fire, none of that, The Titanic performed as well as a ship of the era could possibly have performed under the circumstances, maybe better
I’m blaming you for completely switching all my UA-cam recommended videos to titanic stuff, lol. This channel is so addictive it should come with a warning label.
The Titanic's designers figured that the worst case scenario would be having a collision at the bulkhead itself, thus flooding two compartments. Also, kudos to those who kept the ship balanced so both sides could lower lifeboats. In other situations (Costa Concordia) the ship tilts to one side, rendering one side's lifeboats useless.
It’s shows you the skills of the entire crew and all efforts the firemen and engineers did below deck and when you gonna do a video on warships that sunk ✌️
I've heard had Smith hit the iceberg dead on, instead of turning, it would have saved the ship, but ruined his reputation. Sure, the bow would be crumpled and she would not longer have been able to sail, but it wouldn't have gone down, right? This action would have ruined his reputation of course. He would be the man who "hit an iceberg" but he and everyone else would have lived..
I always wondered about that. Like what if she hit it head on. Would’ve that made a difference instead of getting it on the side and would she not have sunk at all?
Go Sam go!!! Love the Titanic videos. You know what I would love to see? You totally geek out with another Titanic historian and just have a podcast like discussion . Now that would be cool. Talking about myths and questions still unanswered!!!!
It was the best-case scenario given the circumstances that were at play. The crew did a phenomenal job at keeping the power going and fight the flooding at the same time. Not often do those kinds of heroics happen in every sinking. These men were made of sterner stuff. They gave their own lives to combat the sinking so more people could get off safely. I don't think Titanic could've had for a better crew. Though that coal fire could've been a little bit of divine intervention. I've heard through numerous documentaries of SOME of the heroics done on Titanic, but not on the level of this. This was far more informative than any documentary I've seen. It gives you that spark of hope in the bleakest moments of a historical disaster. Great video, man.
Those heroes saved over a thousand lives. Today, over 100 years later, the descendants of those survivors are here because of them. I hope they all acknowledge the 15th of April every year as a day to remember and appreciate the crew.
I always thought that 2 & 1/2 hours was a very long time for Titanic to sink. Imagine what you could actually do in that amount of time. Maybe watch a movie, take a small nap, and then hop on a life boat and paddle away, lol!
Wow! For years when watching all these different documentaries on the Titanic , I often wondered myself why the ship did not capsize when the starboard compartments were breached so badly. I never knew about the situation with the coal being transferred to the port side of the ship, and now it all makes sense! You’re the first person I heard this from. Thank you very much for this wonderful explanation! It saddens me though to think that if they just put pumps in every single compartment what the possibility of keeping the ship afloat much longer would’ve been. May God have mercy on all the souls involved.
well that and the holes must have been very very small limiting how much water could enter the ship had there been pumps in those compartments they may even been able to keep up with the flooding which is the shocking part when you think about it a torpedo made a large enough hole to sink the Britannic in 55 minutes so for titanic to last for 2 hours and 40 minutes means that the flooding was much slower and thus the holes for water to come in must have been much smaller in total size to reduce water entry into the ship through the hull damage
@@raven4k998 tbh the holes werent even that small, it was big enough to burst abunch of water into boiler room 5, but not fast enough that the boiler room was completely flooded
@@UNIQUEwastaken that wasn't because they were big that was cause of water pressure kid titanic lasted longer then Britannic cause smaller holes then Britannic got from the torpedo hit which is why she sank like your car in water after the hit🤣🤣🤣
@@raven4k998 wtf do you mean, i didnt say the holes were big, i said it was *BIG ENOUGH*. yes the holes were small but not as small as you said it was. Water was pumping into the ship at an excessive rate, if the holes in the ship was so small, it would have taken much more time for titanic to founder, also it wasnt the *small* holes that caused the ship to sink slowly, as there was numerous of factors that happened if u watched the video. And unrelated reply to your comment: Can u start using punctuation?
@@raven4k998 Britannic actually sunk not because of the hole that the mine caused but because portholes were left open by nurses, against the captains orders. Once the water line reached those lower open portholes they allowed a lot more water into the ship.
Another great and informative video. As a Long, long time Titanic buff I learned something new. I didn't know about the side closing doors. (watertight doors) As for Titanic's strength; she was still better built than most newer ships. Think " Costa Concordia" with that Captain....what was his name, Sam???
Damage control works very well if practiced regularly. There was a carrier in the Pacific during WW2 that was hit not once but three separate times. Because the crew was able to reduce the sustained damage, it helped turn the tide of the war in that theater.
Well, Olympic and Britannic only received their bulkhead upgrades after Titanic sank, but assuming they still had them, and suffered the same damage Titanic had, no, they would survive. Severely crippled, but afloat.
If the ship was immediately brought to a stop, it probably would have survived. The updates were designed to allow them to stay afloat with the first six compartments flooded. Also, the bilge pump in boiler room 5 could have been left running indefinitely as an extra measure to help keep the water from overflowing the sixth bulkhead. With 4 dry boiler rooms, there would still be plenty of steam available to keep it running, along with the lights and wireless system, until everyone was able to evacuate (because they now had enough boats to do so!).
Survived. Britannic was fitted with a double hull. And even if they managed to penetrate that the raised bulkheads could normally keep her afloat with six compartments flooded.
Out of curiosity, what would've happened if the ship hit the berg head-on? Would she have sunk at all? Would she have stayed afloat for hours more? Or would it have not made a difference?
So there are a lot of variables in collisions, but the main thing that sunk the Titanic wasn't that it hit the iceberg, it's that it hit the iceberg under the water, on it's side and across multiple floors. It was basically scraped open along the side in such a way that it ruined any chance of sealing shut sections of the ship. A head on collision would most likely start above water because of the shape of the ships hull. Considering that and the strength of the iceberg and ships construction, I'd think the ship would have taken significant damage, but would have had significantly more time to evacuate or possibly even have been able to make it to a closer port.
From other docs I have watched they claimed that had it would have hit head on it would been fine due to that water tight bulkhead being the only one that went all the way up to the deck and no water could have gotten over it.
@@GOOSE-1334 there ain't no way just because one ship done it don't mean another would.we don't know as the ship was going full speed and the only relatable ship went head on into another ship not iceberg tht doesn't move
Thomas Andrews did not help design Titanic, though he understood the ship well. He replaced an engineer named Carlisle who designed it leaving it to Andrews to complete and work out the bugs once completed.
Actually, Andrews did help with designing Titanic. He was an assistant to Alexander Carlisle along with Edward Wilding, both men taking up various specific responsibilities for the Olympic-class ships' design. Andrews took over from Carlisle for overseeing after the latter's retirement in 1910, but it was a full two years after the design work had been completed, plans drafted, and work on both Olympic and Titanic well underway.
If only the 5th not the 6th watertight compartment had been breached, how much more time would that have given the ship? Another 20 minutes perhaps? I’m also curious how much more time could have been savaged if all the portholes had been closed.
@@philosotree5876 I don’t know about others but too me the charm the luxury the style. Ships today are boring Titanic and Olympic even Queen Marry all have a unique style too them.
Excellent work you do, man, with all the information you provide. Don't stop the good work. Tell me, how do you like the new 3D footage they came up with last month? I thank your dedication
I cannot remember if Sam had ever done a hypothetical video on this; if he did I forgot...but I just cannot help but wonder how different that night would have been, had the bridge crew *not* tried steering around the berg? Five years earlier, a German ocean liner (S.S. Kronprinz Wilhelm) had its own Titanic-esque incident, colliding with an iceberg. But the crew of that ship did not try steering around it; they took it head-on. Sure, front-ending the berg wrecked the bow and shook up everybody on board; but the ship did not sink. In fact, it completed its voyage to New York under its own power. Had Titanic's bridge crew done the same, only slowing the ship's roll but not altering its trajectory, how different would that voyage have been? I'm not quite so involved in maritime history as Sam is, but I strongly suspect that things would have been very different. Even if Titanic were so damaged that moving it would be risky without tug assistance, she might have still stayed afloat long enough for Olympic to to get there and take on Titanic's whole complement. On the other hand, had that night been different, then everything we learned about maritime safety likely would never have manifested...or if they did, it would have taken many more years.
I don't think Sam has made one, but Mr. Brady over on Oceanliner Designs has. You should check it out, he did a very good job with the visuals effects of what Titanic would have looked like in the aftermath of a head on collision.
Yes but what role did the string play in the sinking? Was string on the propellers the true culprit in Titanic's demise?? Discuss! Also you have an incredible opening animation, I love it so much
Oh yea that ship that just watched it all happen and didn't do anything about it Cpt Lord didn't even do the very least to wake up his radio operator and have him check on the situation
Cpt Lord told reporters in Boston that it was all he'd have to do in court to state why he took the prudent step of laying stopped for the night while the Titanic sped through the ice. "It will take me about ten minutes to do this" he told the reporters. That slap on Cpt Smith's face was to backfire on Cpt Lord
Great video i learned so much. This show how much that grand lady fought back her dearh. She didn't want to die. But like you said she was put in a no win situation.
Sam, another theoretical question for you. how much more time do you think they could have bought themselves if the combined tonnage from the 3 anchors and chains had been cut loose and dumped off the bow as soon as they realized she would sink? Surely this would have taken significant pressure off the bow and helped to slow the ingress of water. Also, was there any canvas on board that they could have attempted to patch a portion of the hull? I am always thinking about the various ways in which they could have possibly kept Titanic alive even just a little longer. These actions, in combination with the use of the pumps (which you stated already saved them about 15 minutes) and also the closing of the gangway door… even if it only saved them an additional 15 more minutes it could have potentially translated into more lives saved in the end. Also, when they realized Californian wasn’t responding, and Carpathia was 4 hours away, what if they had designated one lifeboat with a crew of recruited strong men and attempted to row halfway to the Californian and sent up flares from the boat.
I have thought would more people have been saved if the Titanic went at full speed toward the closest ship after the collision? Of course it would have sunk faster but would it have made it close enough to the rescue ship so they could have saved more lives. Maybe you can make a video of this
That's a very interesting thought! It may be difficult with the boiler rooms flooding but still possible, the Britannic managed to move while sinking up to a certain point. You've also got two choices the Carpathia which is further but heading towards you, or the Californian which is closer but not moving... there may have been another nearby ship that was nearby as well but very slow
Whenever i see anything about the titanic, i can't help but think about how mad or disappointed the people tgat worked like crazy to build it. All that blood and sweat, and it didn't make one trip.
I find it hard that few take into consideration that sinking could have been prolonged. If after opening the gangway doors on E deck and no one using it to load lifeboats. If it had been closed again and all open portholes been closed. Titanic could have last longer. That gangeay door opening was probably bigger than the entire damage caused by the iceberg. When the water level reached it, the flooled increased exponentially. Those two things being closed alone could have made, maybe 15 minutes or more life to the ship. Stop and think about that!!!!!!
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One thing that wasn't mentioned in this video. After Titanic sank, Olympic and Britannic were dramatically upgraded. They installed electric davits. They raised the water tight doors from E-deck all the way up to B-deck. They installed a double-hull. Titanic only had a double-bottom. After these upgrades, Britannic and Olympic could stay afloat even if 6 compartments were breached. The double-hull alone would have saved Titanic though since it only grazed the iceberg.
Didn’t all those ships still sink?
@mindgames50 Olympic never sank. It led a long life, and it was scrapped in 1935. Britannic sank because it was torpedoed or hit a mine in WW1. No ship can survive an attack like that. Very few people died, though, because of the safety features that were installed after the Titanic sank.
@@ejkk9513 nice, I forgot what happened to them
I’m pretty sure it was definitively proven that a mine sunk Brittanic. I think the confusion came from the German navy stating it was a torpedo, but the damage is that of a mine. Many of her portholes were open at the time of her sinking and I have read the claim that had they been shut, it would’ve prevented excessive flooding and she may have stayed afloat. How true that is, I am not sure.
30 people died on Brittanic, and several of those occurred when lifeboats were lowered as she had a list that had her propeller above water level. People were killed when the lifeboats hit the propeller.
Olympic had a collision with the Hawke, but never sank.
@@Justmemyguy Olympic had at least three collisions in her life. One, before Titanic sank, was the Hawke, another, toward the end of her career, was a Nantucket lightship. The third was a very much deliberate ramming of a U-boat
HATS OFF to the Titanic crew working so hard......risking and LOSING their lives to give the survivors as much time as possible to abandon ship......BRAVE MEN, RIP - you guys are THE true world Heros.
Back when men were men and ready to die for the people around them. Because it was the right thing to do.
Now everyone would whip their phones out to people who needed help and then post it on instragram.
The survivors would then do anything they could to get famous off of it like go on talk shows and act like they were hero’s and saving people when in reality they were too cowardess and selfish to help another person.
brave thoughts from a keyboard warriors
@@wywy74 do you even know what a keyboard warrior is?? Lol you’re for sure a boomer
@@wywy74 Your grammar is not in 'trim'.
So absolutely true - us men back then were able to just 'be men'. Sacrificing lives to save the women and children by giving them time to evacuate. All the men knew they were dead anyhow. So very sad. RIP.
I think its amazing how we havent really forgotten about the titanic. Ive been obsessed since a child and i regularly go through my phase of obsession with this tragedy.
Same here. I was fascinated by it as a child, probably because I crossed the Atlantic twice on the great steamer France, which was even bigger, and every few years I‘ll go on another spree. The Titan drama has set me off on yet another binge of Titanic and Lusitania videos and the resulting ruminations on the human condition…
Obese since childhood? Why?
@@User_92020 Yes obese since childhood.But have since lost a lot of weight,as did Titanic on the way down.
The crew keeping the lights on also saved lives. It helped passengers find there way through the ship to a lifeboat. Also kept power on to the wireless room so Harold Bride could continue to send distress calls out and kept the pumps running.
Jack Phillips actually. Bride was his assistant. Bride survived, Phillips did not
@@salvationbygracethroughfaith in emergencies people act instinctively. doesnt matter the year or time period. you will have heros and cowards in every era
@@FordSierraIS You'll have heroes and cowards in every era. Just a lot more heroes back when women were thin, pretty, sweet and Feminine. Hint: men aren't going to shovel coal for women who claim Lizzo is beautiful. Paying welfare is bad enough.
@@FordSierraISHahaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Its was a silver lining that there was enough time for enough people to be evacuated. At least the bulkheads worked for a bit before the inevitable.
After 30+ years of studying the RMS Titanic I believe it was pointless to evaluate the passengers with just the “Women and Children” policy and MORE lives would have been saved. But of course many of the passengers didn’t want to get into a lifeboat bc they were scared of a little wooden boat versus what the Titanic had to offer. Many of the passengers also didn’t think the ship was actually sinking. It was just a bunch of mix confusions of what happened that night
@@ChairmanPaulieD It is questionable wether or not a lack of the order"Women and children first" would´ve save more lives,considering many men would not have entered a lifeboat anyway,atleast as long as they saw women and children still aboard
What would certainly have helped to save more lives was Lightroller NOT interpreting that Order as "Women and children only"...something he should´ve been prosecuted for
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@@NashmanNash yeah I definitely agree with you on that about Lightoller bc he was so adamant about making sure not a single male passenger or even a 15 year old male teenager/ passenger boarded a lifeboat he was launching. I really wonder if that night did Thomas Andrews confront Lightoller telling him to fill up the lifeboats as what took place in the JC 97 film
@@ChairmanPaulieD I’m certain Andrews and Lightoller never had such a conversation; Lightoller didn’t load any of the boats under his charge to anywhere near full capacity that night.
One last thing, I find it amazing how close Thomas Andrews calculations for a time frame in the inevitable sinking of the ship when compared with the computer simulation and calculations. That really shows how well he knew that ship and also is a testament to the accuracy of calculations figured by computer models. Then how after more accurately estimating the data of the effects of all the weight from the coal transfer shifted the time estimates very close to the actual sink time. Just incredible.
Historically speaking, if I had a nickel for every preventable disaster that has occurred due to the thinking of "the chances of that happening are nearly impossible," then I'd have like all these nickels.
But this is how safety measures are decided on, designers have to manage probability against cost
@@daniel117100 fair enough, but not all the time. And sometimes those perceived cost cutting measures end up costing more. Regardless of the reason, I get another nickel. 😉
If you include ones that were worsened because of that thinking....you might be worth almost $1,000,000,000
@@skyden24195 if i had a nickel for every low iq that said "like... like..." id have a billion
@@SyethenNot great, not terrible...
You deserve more subs, Sam. Knowledge, honesty, and integrity.
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Boiler room 5 was the battleground of the sinking. All the efforts to save the ship were focused there. The crew knew that if they lost it, the battle was over and all they could do then was delay the inevitable.
Ultimately, her sinking on a more or less even keel saved more lives. The incredible run of bad luck leading to the sinking was counter balanced by a run of good luck during the sinking.
I agree with your sentiment, Titanic was built strong and that workmanship paid dividends that terrible evening.
The crew already knew they lost the battle. The Titanic already had 4 compartments full with her 5th and 6th compartments taking on water. They did what they did because it gave the passengers more time to escape
First officer Murdock made a crucial mistake when he rang down for FULL ASTERN. By doing so the first thing the engineers had to go was stop the center engine. This engine was spinning the center propeller at 165 rpms which was right in front of the rudder!. Once the prop stopped Murdock had lost most of his sterage,causing the ship to turn just slightly to port causing a glancing blow causing more damage.Murdock should have known better than to order full astern as he already had made several trips across the pond with Titanics sister ship Olympic and knew how it operated.and
@@arthurclarke6703 This has been disproven. Murdock did not order the engines full astern (which would absolutely cripple the ship's steering), but he ordered them full stop.
The whole "full astern" thing comes from 4th Officer Boxhall, who wasn't even on the bridge during the entire collision and every other officer that gave testimony stated she'd been ordered full stop.
They did what they could, and it wasn't enough. Sucks how cut and dry that is, but it's life sometimes
@pc_buildyb0i Then the movie TITANIC Is wrong? It shows the center propeller stopped. This is why it didn't turn to port. No thrust against the rudder.
@@arthurclarke6703 Yes, the Titanic movie is wrong. And yes, they should have kept power to the props so the rudder was working at full capacity, but stopping the engines did impact the rudder's performance.
The part of the video I found most interesting was the part where you mentioned most ships capsize instead of spiking up towards the sky like the titanic did. Fitting that the most famous shipwreck in history, sunk in the most dramatic way possible.
When I started going down this maritime history rabbit-hole, I was shocked to learn how fast it took for some ships to sink - Lusitania, Empress of Ireland, etc. Those ships hardly had time for the crew to get the lifeboats ready, for all they had enough lifeboats for all aboard. It seems like a longer sinking like the Titanic is more rare.
I mean in Lusitania's defence she was whacked with a torpedo and was carrying weapons which probably contributed to her sinking so quick
@@jennycallander Not weapons the secondary explosion was caused by an ignition of the coal dust and oxygen mixture that the U-20s torpedo set off.
Dr. Robert Ballard proved this in his expedition to the Lusitania back in the 1990s.
@@anthonylowder6687 The only thing Ballard proved was that it wasn't an ammunitions explosion. He didn't prove it was coal dust. In fact, experiments were done and the experts couldnt't agree on the exact cause.
@@anthonylowder6687 Actually it was more likely a steam pipe burst, which would explain the loss of engine power as well. The water flooding in from the torpedo hit would have actually severely reduced the risk of a coal dust explosion.
@@AdmiralBlackstar Research as shown that neither coal,or steam pipes,would have created a blast of the nature the survivors described,now have enough power to do the damage to cause her to go down that fast.They have pretty much come to the conclusion,that there was unlisted munitions in the forward holds,and that was the secondary blast.
To be fair, Titanic WAS a very safe ship. It held together for as long as it did with a fatal structural damage. Even though it isn’t “unsinkable” like some say it was claimed to be, it genuinely was built well and staffed with professionals. Any other staff or ship wouldn’t have lasted
The lookouts were not handed binoculars. Their actually was no binoculars on board. Artist is only as good as his tools sometimes
@@JamesBond-er1hk Apparently it was so dark binocs would have done little anyway and wasn't common practice to use them on white star liners. The fault lies with the captain and the bridge, in an effort to get their as quickly as possible they went straight through the iceberg ridden area despite warnings to navigate around. The captain was known to be reckless and operate at full speed regardless of the dangers. Lightoller's memoirs are very informative surrounding this. The ship was astoundingly safe for the time but once again it was human error. You can drive the safest car in the world but if you crash at 120MPH it won't make much difference.
@@George-nv1ri the captain was holding to the custom of the time, which was to get across the atlantic as fast as possible
@@Blox117 yeah the protocol was to only slow down when you actually see something
the inquiry ultimately concluded that while the current protocol was wrong, nobody did anything that was known to be reckless
@@Yetaxa the captain was a total reckless damn fool
The Titanic was said to have 3 anchors, one near the bow, one amidships, and one for the stern. The combination of each anchor and its chain was said to weigh about 1,000 metric tons.
They say that the crew released the bow anchor and its chain into the ocean depths almost immediately. That makes sense. Otherwise, the extra weight near the bow of the ship would made the water overtop the watertight compartments near the bow faster.
They say that the rear anchor and its chain was never let go. That made sense initially, since the principle of leverage meant that sagging in the stern from the weight of the stern anchor and its anchor chain would provide a little bit of lift to the bow. Toward the end, however, the extra "moment", the extra bending effect, was severe enough to help cause the stern to break off, severely degrading watertight integrity.
They say that the middle anchor and its anchor chain was never let go. Not letting go of that extra 1,000 tons of weight could have been a mistake. With essentially no stern versus bow leverage effect like the leverage effect from retaining the stern anchor, that middle anchor and its chain was mostly a 1,000 ton load of metal making the whole length of the ship settle deeper into the water, including engine room number 5 with its vital pumping equipment. It is possible that engine room number 5, and the length of the ship as a whole, if sitting a just a little bit less deeply in the water, could have survived much longer, perhaps long enough for other ships to arrive to help with the pumping of water, and to help with the throwing of unnecessary weight into the sea, and with the rescue of passengers.
Short version: The 3 anchors and their chains each had a considerable amount of weight. Whether or not to let go each individual anchor and its anchor chain had a considerable bearing on the story of how long Titanic lasted after colliding with the iceberg, as well as on the rupture at the stern just before Titanic sank.
Perhaps someone should do a computer study someday on the effect of the decision making regarding releasing versus not releasing each of the ship's anchors after the collision with the iceberg.
Nice reading.
Titanic did have 3 anchors, but they were all on the bow. There was one on each side, we can even see them on the wreck, and the 3rd was on the forecastle on the very front under the crane. The hole at the very front is where it would've been hung from had it been needed, since it was the spare.
I find it absolutely amazing that it just happened to play out the way it did with the repositioning of the coal to the port side and that she hit the berg on the starboard side. If she has hit the berg on the port side, she would have capsized no doubt. I also find it amazing that with that repositioning of the coal that the Titanic never rolled over. Even on her way to the bottom, she is still sitting upright on the bottom, both the bow and stern sections both upright. She went down in a very unusual way. I agree, ships don't usually sink the way the Titanic did. Most ships do capsize when they sink. Very unusual, but it's fascinating to me that she's still upright.
Yes - of the five most famous shipwrecks of the twentieth century - the Titanic, the Empress of Ireland, the Lusitania, the Britannic, and the Andrea Doria, the Titanic is the only one whose wreck is sitting upright on the ocean floor. However, I would additionally point out that of the five, not is she only one that didn't capsize, she also sank in by far the deepest water, over 12,000 feet, as opposed to the others which all sank in less than 600 feet. That gave the two pieces of the hull time to level out during the descent to the sea bed, a benefit the other ships didn't have.
Another great and informative video. Very well done.
Keep them coming!
You are benefiting so much from this totally random barley related submarine tragedy. I've spent all day watching Titanic / Ocean Liner content.
100%. With all respect to submarine the guys, it led me to watching so many titanic videos and it’s fascinating.
@@biggiesmalls3096 Yeah I've never wanted to start a collection of ocean liner models but here we are. Turns out the youtuber Oceanliner Designs has his own website and he's the best guy for those. You can find a million websites for selling models but he sells everything 500 or 200 scale, so the models will actually have accurate size comparisons. Plus they'll already be painted.
Same, I was thinking about that.. Anyone who makes Titanic related youtube content is cashing in right now, like flag stores after September 11th... I was super obsessed with the Franklin expedition too when the ships were found. That one is fascinating. ANything where everyone dies and there is tons of mystery surrounding it... Look into the Franklin Expedition...
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I've fallen in a similar rabbithole
Andrews said the ship would sink in about 1.5 hours after his inspection, and not after the impact. It probably took him 30-60 minutes to complete the inspection, so his calculation was correct.
The ship hit at 11:40pm and Cpt Smith ordered the lifeboats uncovered at 12:05am so Andrews took less than 25min to complete his inspection
Superbly explained video. Thank you.
I used all of my strength, keeping her afloat, but alas the weight became too much even for the amazing fourth funnel
You were my favourite character in James Cameron's Titanic. When you fell back onto the boat deck after the break up I cried 😢😂
your sacrifice was not in vain
You are definitely the most heroic figure on that fateful night
@@iamboat562 who is this man?
We loved the role you played in Titanic by James Cameron!
Wonderful information - thank you.
My heart goes out to the crew because they KNEW they were going to die while trying to save the ships passengers and they pressed on anyway. The mail crew died while trying to save all the mail for the passengers. HEROIC!!!! But the captain was warned in advance about the approaching ice berg field ahead but he refused to take evasive measures because he was so confident in the ships design and ability. Wow, just an epic but tragic experience.
Must be something in the water around those parts that gives people way too much confidence 🥴
That’s was a foolish move, they all about to die but still focusing to save mails
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@mauricehumphrey545 - the way you've laid out this tragedy is a mini story for countless tragic events, and business crashes. People doing what they shouldn't and who failed to prepare those around them for disaster, others that watched and didn't say a word, yet others that work tirelessly to buy time for everyone because they know they must, those that perish, and those that survive as someone different than they were. No matter how often that happens - because people generally forget disasters like this and fail to see parallels to other walks of life - we continue to fall in to the same situation over and over again.
@@DanzZerousWhy not? There was no chance of a lifeboat place for them?
Sam's passion for the Titanic is awesome. I love each and every one of his uploads. But at the end of them all I always have the same thoughts. Just staring at the floor blankly wondering why such a well built and beautifully crafted ship rests at the bottom of the Atlantic on it's first voyage. A labor of love gone with too many souls lost...
Hey Sam! Could you do a video commenting on clips from Titanic survivors? There are so many super cool videos of Titanic survivors talking about their experiences and I’d love to hear your commentary on their telling of the story. Great videos!! Keep ‘em coming!
We do not want to hear from them, they are old and most of them are senile and you can't trust anything they say
Wow I haven’t checked back on this channel in a few months!!! When I was first here you had only like 2K subs… looks like you are blowing up! Glad you are still doing what you a passionate about!
Another well done video. You cover the facts accurately and comprehensibly once again.
Him and Mike are the best
@@kamata93 Mike Brady?
@@ReubenWaltonYes .They're good friends
Outstanding video and presentation.
If you pull on that string, it opens a secret compartment on the Titanic which will reveal an embarrassing picture of Spongebob at the Christmas party! In all seriousness, excellent video man, I always enjoy your Titanic deep dives and I love the time and research you put into things.
Edit: If the Titanic sank because she was badly built than Olympic would have sunk after her collision with the HMS Hawke and she would have sank after that torpedo struck her hull and left that huge gaping hole that no one noticed until she was in dry dock. These ships were well built, but they weren't designed to take that amount of stress. The fact that Titanic lasted as long as she did is a miracle, as you've stated, and people should acknowledge that as well.
Excellent explanation as always!
Thanks for the video...I've been fascinated by the Titanic since I was 8 years old...I'm 50 now!
Thanks for going through the safety features of Titanic. They give better context to the assertions of the builders that the ship was "unsinkable". Too bad the confidence in these safety measures lead to hubris and a disaster that was thought impossible.
Awesome videos, mate 👏 I’ve learned a lot by watching them 😊
Andrews did not say ship would sink in "an hour to an hour and a half" from the time of collision, but from time he'd finished his inspection and calculations, which was about 12:20am - making his total estimated time of sinking about two and a quarter hours.
Right when Andrew's had started calculated the time it was after the ship already was sinking not as soon as it hit..so when he said hour 2 at the most it around 1230a which would take it to to around 2am which was still accurate on how long it actually took from when it hit until it sank almost 3 hrs
The Titanic hit at 11:40pm Cpt Smith ordered the lifeboats uncovered at 12:05am So I guess Andrews completed his inspection in less than 25min
That was excellent. The list also slowed the sinking because damage was in shallower water. That same 3 degree list to port meant a list on the other side. Shallower water means less pressure, so perhaps it doesn't rush in with the same velocity had it been 10 feet deeper.
Hi, Sam. What Titanic model do you have? I would love to find myself one
He has many.
There's a documentary, can't remember what it's called, but part of it focuses on what was happening down in Boiler Room #5. Part of the reason that the crew was able to hold the water back was because the iceberg didn't puncture the boiler room, but rather, the coal bunker in front of it. You could go as far as to call it "Titanic's Achilles heel". The thing with the coal bunker was that while it was containing the water, it wasn't built to be watertight. Eventually, the amount of water pressure in the bunker continued to build and build and build, until the bunker could no longer stand the amount of water pressure within. The coal bunker, in question, happened to be the same one that was on fire throughout the voyage. Whether or not the fire helped weaken the bunker is a question that can't really be answered. When it collapsed, I think it was around the same time, that as survivors described, Titanic took a very sudden dip deeper into the water. That was where the battle to save Titanic was eventually lost.
Some say the engineers were trimming the ship too. Maybe they were, maybe they weren’t. What is certain, though is they made the sea fight for every inch of the ship. A losing battle, for sure, and they knew it, but they didn’t go down without one hell of a fight. None of them survived, but they died buying time to get all but two of the boats away.
I love your passion and insight. Thank you very much for this video! 😁
This is why I hate when people say "Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats". The crew barely had enough time to launch all the lifeboats with almost three hours of time! Even if Titanic had the full complement of lifeboats (48) 28 lifeboats would of been pulled down with the ship. I don't think people realize just how quickly most ships sink (Which makes Titanic even more fascinating)!
They really should have added 2,000 collapsible hang gliders onto the deck for the passengers to easily escape with.
The crew had more than enough time to launch the lifeboats. 10-15 mins per boat. They just didn't know the severity of the damage and waited too long to start launching them. By the time they decided to launch them the ship was at mass panic.
@@AnythingGasoline none of this is true lol
@@EnjoySackLunch the crew had time to launch all the life boats before the titanic sank. it is a fact.
@@AnythingGasoline wrong
Excellent presentation! 👍👍👍👍
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A SHIP THIS BIG WOULD TAKE HOURS TO SINK
Thank you sooo much for this video! I understood a lot and it's exactly what you said at the end, a combination of things that made the sinking last for so long. Keep going!
hey! love you videos and streams been coming around for a long time now! i have learned so much and want to say thank you! also someday i would love to see historic travels tackle other kinda of travel from aviation like plane's and zeplin's to trains and everything in between!
I'm very interested in his take on the Hindenburg disaster as well
@@oufukubinta He has done several videos on Hindenburg. They were great too.
@@projectswithjw I'll have to check them out - I'm fairly new to the channel. But my favorite subject is the Titanic and I'm glad that's the majority of the content
Best explanation I've heard about the safety features.....thank you.
Jack could have floated on the door if Rose had stayed on the lifeboat.
Another informative video and thank you. I plan to heed your advice and check out the link to the video you recommended. I love historical information documentation on just about every topic and there seems to be a never ending amount of material out there. 👍👍 and I will be checking out that video in roughly 3 minutes and 54 seconds.
They did a discovery channel or something special in 2012 and they basically came to the conclusion that Titanic itself didn't kill 1500 people, it in fact saved the 700+
Mmm..it apparently had design flaws however. I believe they made adjustments to its sister ship(s) afterwards. If the Titanic had those same characteristics, it probably wouldn’t have sunk. Furthermore, apparently the crew could have prevented this all together as there were warnings about the burgs that were supposedly not taken seriously enough.
Or did the sense of it being unsinkable cause those in charge of it to take the risks that led to it going down..?
@@exasperated as I said, the Titanic herself didn't kill anyone, it wasn't bad steel, faulty rivets, the fire, none of that, The Titanic performed as well as a ship of the era could possibly have performed under the circumstances, maybe better
You explained this very well!
If you are USS Texas, you use you ballast pumps to give yourself a list in order to reach out further with your guns
I’m blaming you for completely switching all my UA-cam recommended videos to titanic stuff, lol. This channel is so addictive it should come with a warning label.
The Titanic's designers figured that the worst case scenario would be having a collision at the bulkhead itself, thus flooding two compartments. Also, kudos to those who kept the ship balanced so both sides could lower lifeboats. In other situations (Costa Concordia) the ship tilts to one side, rendering one side's lifeboats useless.
Easy listening and explained well.
Imagine what would have happened if the ship did actually sink in an hour. A lot more lives would have been lost
How many survived
@@darrenjones1413 a little over 700
And many more would've been lost on top of that still if the Titanic had been full
great job on this explanation ! best one yet....
And since then No one has ever called a ship Unsinkable.
They'd better not
Great content as always Sam! Would love some more Great Lakes ship wreck stories
Ps: great haircut
It’s shows you the skills of the entire crew and all efforts the firemen and engineers did below deck and when you gonna do a video on warships that sunk ✌️
This is great information, even for me who has read a lot of books about titanic. Thank you.
Sam, could you do a video on the S. S. Vestris (1912)???
Found your channel today and already love it. So many very interssting information.
I've heard had Smith hit the iceberg dead on, instead of turning, it would have saved the ship, but ruined his reputation. Sure, the bow would be crumpled and she would not longer have been able to sail, but it wouldn't have gone down, right? This action would have ruined his reputation of course. He would be the man who "hit an iceberg" but he and everyone else would have lived..
Possible but no sane person would hit an iceberg head on.
Also it was Murdoch at controls.
I always wondered about that. Like what if she hit it head on. Would’ve that made a difference instead of getting it on the side and would she not have sunk at all?
Go Sam go!!! Love the Titanic videos. You know what I would love to see? You totally geek out with another Titanic historian and just have a podcast like discussion . Now that would be cool. Talking about myths and questions still unanswered!!!!
It was the best-case scenario given the circumstances that were at play. The crew did a phenomenal job at keeping the power going and fight the flooding at the same time. Not often do those kinds of heroics happen in every sinking. These men were made of sterner stuff. They gave their own lives to combat the sinking so more people could get off safely. I don't think Titanic could've had for a better crew. Though that coal fire could've been a little bit of divine intervention. I've heard through numerous documentaries of SOME of the heroics done on Titanic, but not on the level of this. This was far more informative than any documentary I've seen. It gives you that spark of hope in the bleakest moments of a historical disaster. Great video, man.
Those heroes saved over a thousand lives. Today, over 100 years later, the descendants of those survivors are here because of them. I hope they all acknowledge the 15th of April every year as a day to remember and appreciate the crew.
Just love this Channel, from Ireland living about 60 Miles from Queens town as you would know it... thanks Sam🎉
I always thought that 2 & 1/2 hours was a very long time for Titanic to sink. Imagine what you could actually do in that amount of time. Maybe watch a movie, take a small nap, and then hop on a life boat and paddle away, lol!
this is so interesting wow thank you. you're a wealth of knowledge on this topic clearly!
Wow! For years when watching all these different documentaries on the Titanic , I often wondered myself why the ship did not capsize when the starboard compartments were breached so badly. I never knew about the situation with the coal being transferred to the port side of the ship, and now it all makes sense! You’re the first person I heard this from. Thank you very much for this wonderful explanation!
It saddens me though to think that if they just put pumps in every single compartment what the possibility of keeping the ship afloat much longer would’ve been.
May God have mercy on all the souls involved.
Dude I love your passion! I always knew about the titanic but I love the details I never knew
The water tight compartments helped to slow the sinking, otherwise Titanic would have sank faster
well that and the holes must have been very very small limiting how much water could enter the ship had there been pumps in those compartments they may even been able to keep up with the flooding which is the shocking part when you think about it a torpedo made a large enough hole to sink the Britannic in 55 minutes so for titanic to last for 2 hours and 40 minutes means that the flooding was much slower and thus the holes for water to come in must have been much smaller in total size to reduce water entry into the ship through the hull damage
@@raven4k998 tbh the holes werent even that small, it was big enough to burst abunch of water into boiler room 5, but not fast enough that the boiler room was completely flooded
@@UNIQUEwastaken that wasn't because they were big that was cause of water pressure kid titanic lasted longer then Britannic cause smaller holes then Britannic got from the torpedo hit which is why she sank like your car in water after the hit🤣🤣🤣
@@raven4k998 wtf do you mean, i didnt say the holes were big, i said it was *BIG ENOUGH*. yes the holes were small but not as small as you said it was. Water was pumping into the ship at an excessive rate, if the holes in the ship was so small, it would have taken much more time for titanic to founder, also it wasnt the *small* holes that caused the ship to sink slowly, as there was numerous of factors that happened if u watched the video.
And unrelated reply to your comment: Can u start using punctuation?
@@raven4k998 Britannic actually sunk not because of the hole that the mine caused but because portholes were left open by nurses, against the captains orders. Once the water line reached those lower open portholes they allowed a lot more water into the ship.
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Another great and informative video. As a Long, long time Titanic buff I learned something new. I didn't know about the side closing doors. (watertight doors) As for Titanic's strength; she was still better built than most newer ships. Think " Costa Concordia" with that Captain....what was his name, Sam???
Francesco schettino was the Captain
Damage control works very well if practiced regularly. There was a carrier in the Pacific during WW2 that was hit not once but three separate times. Because the crew was able to reduce the sustained damage, it helped turn the tide of the war in that theater.
I knew a guy that won his tickets for a ride on the Titanic in a poker game.
He took a bad beat later
You mean Jack Dawson ?
@@Rose19127 you knew him too?
what if Birtanic or Olympic hit the ice berg exactly like Titanic? Would they have sunk - or would their updates have kept them afloat?
Well, Olympic and Britannic only received their bulkhead upgrades after Titanic sank, but assuming they still had them, and suffered the same damage Titanic had, no, they would survive. Severely crippled, but afloat.
Both olympic and britannic would flip over cuz they did not have the list to port
If the ship was immediately brought to a stop, it probably would have survived. The updates were designed to allow them to stay afloat with the first six compartments flooded.
Also, the bilge pump in boiler room 5 could have been left running indefinitely as an extra measure to help keep the water from overflowing the sixth bulkhead. With 4 dry boiler rooms, there would still be plenty of steam available to keep it running, along with the lights and wireless system, until everyone was able to evacuate (because they now had enough boats to do so!).
Survived. Britannic was fitted with a double hull. And even if they managed to penetrate that the raised bulkheads could normally keep her afloat with six compartments flooded.
Hard to say I think
The answer to the title.
Because it’s a big ass ship.
Out of curiosity, what would've happened if the ship hit the berg head-on? Would she have sunk at all? Would she have stayed afloat for hours more? Or would it have not made a difference?
So there are a lot of variables in collisions, but the main thing that sunk the Titanic wasn't that it hit the iceberg, it's that it hit the iceberg under the water, on it's side and across multiple floors. It was basically scraped open along the side in such a way that it ruined any chance of sealing shut sections of the ship.
A head on collision would most likely start above water because of the shape of the ships hull.
Considering that and the strength of the iceberg and ships construction, I'd think the ship would have taken significant damage, but would have had significantly more time to evacuate or possibly even have been able to make it to a closer port.
@@u0aol1I don't see how a head on collision with a stationary block of ice wouldn't compelty destroy the ship.
From other docs I have watched they claimed that had it would have hit head on it would been fine due to that water tight bulkhead being the only one that went all the way up to the deck and no water could have gotten over it.
@@wingedhussar1453 Then let's all be glad you don't build ships!
@@GOOSE-1334 there ain't no way just because one ship done it don't mean another would.we don't know as the ship was going full speed and the only relatable ship went head on into another ship not iceberg tht doesn't move
‘You can’t change the laws of Physics, I *need* 30 minutes…..’ LCDR Montgomery ‘Scotty’ Scott
Could the listing of the ship have contributed to the sinking by making the starboard side of the ship more exposed and closer to the iceberg?
Good point if it had a small list it would be closer for sure
Very informative. Thank you!
Thomas Andrews did not help design Titanic, though he understood the ship well. He replaced an engineer named Carlisle who designed it leaving it to Andrews to complete and work out the bugs once completed.
Actually, Andrews did help with designing Titanic. He was an assistant to Alexander Carlisle along with Edward Wilding, both men taking up various specific responsibilities for the Olympic-class ships' design. Andrews took over from Carlisle for overseeing after the latter's retirement in 1910, but it was a full two years after the design work had been completed, plans drafted, and work on both Olympic and Titanic well underway.
Loved this video. Well done. I’ve been fascinated with Titanic since the 1997 movie when I was nine.
If only the 5th not the 6th watertight compartment had been breached, how much more time would that have given the ship? Another 20 minutes perhaps?
I’m also curious how much more time could have been savaged if all the portholes had been closed.
I like the Captain Picard-style 'Engage!' gesture you make!
Given the choice between an Olympic class ship and a modern cruise ship, I would take the Olympic class ship any time.
Um... why?
@@philosotree5876 I don’t know about others but too me the charm the luxury the style. Ships today are boring Titanic and Olympic even Queen Marry all have a unique style too them.
I'm under the impression that more modern ships have sunk a lot faster after receiving a lot less damage.
@@philosotree5876 Did you watch the video? They were tougher than anything else on the ocean today.
@@ryans413 But in terms of safety, speed, efficiency, and technology, they're way out of date.
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I cannot remember if Sam had ever done a hypothetical video on this; if he did I forgot...but I just cannot help but wonder how different that night would have been, had the bridge crew *not* tried steering around the berg? Five years earlier, a German ocean liner (S.S. Kronprinz Wilhelm) had its own Titanic-esque incident, colliding with an iceberg. But the crew of that ship did not try steering around it; they took it head-on. Sure, front-ending the berg wrecked the bow and shook up everybody on board; but the ship did not sink. In fact, it completed its voyage to New York under its own power. Had Titanic's bridge crew done the same, only slowing the ship's roll but not altering its trajectory, how different would that voyage have been? I'm not quite so involved in maritime history as Sam is, but I strongly suspect that things would have been very different. Even if Titanic were so damaged that moving it would be risky without tug assistance, she might have still stayed afloat long enough for Olympic to to get there and take on Titanic's whole complement.
On the other hand, had that night been different, then everything we learned about maritime safety likely would never have manifested...or if they did, it would have taken many more years.
I don't think Sam has made one, but Mr. Brady over on Oceanliner Designs has. You should check it out, he did a very good job with the visuals effects of what Titanic would have looked like in the aftermath of a head on collision.
A true testament to titanic's excellent engineering
The real question is how long would it have taken to flood if port hole windows were all closed
Good point
Also the gangway door that was left open!
They probably were closed because it was freezing out that night!
Yes but what role did the string play in the sinking? Was string on the propellers the true culprit in Titanic's demise?? Discuss!
Also you have an incredible opening animation, I love it so much
With that extra time if only the Californian had come to the rescue.
Oh yea that ship that just watched it all happen and didn't do anything about it Cpt Lord didn't even do the very least to wake up his radio operator and have him check on the situation
Cpt Lord told reporters in Boston that it was all he'd have to do in court to state why he took the prudent step of laying stopped for the night while the Titanic sped through the ice. "It will take me about ten minutes to do this" he told the reporters. That slap on Cpt Smith's face was to backfire on Cpt Lord
Great video i learned so much. This show how much that grand lady fought back her dearh. She didn't want to die. But like you said she was put in a no win situation.
Sam, another theoretical question for you. how much more time do you think they could have bought themselves if the combined tonnage from the 3 anchors and chains had been cut loose and dumped off the bow as soon as they realized she would sink? Surely this would have taken significant pressure off the bow and helped to slow the ingress of water. Also, was there any canvas on board that they could have attempted to patch a portion of the hull? I am always thinking about the various ways in which they could have possibly kept Titanic alive even just a little longer. These actions, in combination with the use of the pumps (which you stated already saved them about 15 minutes) and also the closing of the gangway door… even if it only saved them an additional 15 more minutes it could have potentially translated into more lives saved in the end. Also, when they realized Californian wasn’t responding, and Carpathia was 4 hours away, what if they had designated one lifeboat with a crew of recruited strong men and attempted to row halfway to the Californian and sent up flares from the boat.
I love the model you used in the video your brother did an amazing job on it
I have thought would more people have been saved if the Titanic went at full speed toward the closest ship after the collision? Of course it would have sunk faster but would it have made it close enough to the rescue ship so they could have saved more lives. Maybe you can make a video of this
That's a very interesting thought! It may be difficult with the boiler rooms flooding but still possible, the Britannic managed to move while sinking up to a certain point. You've also got two choices the Carpathia which is further but heading towards you, or the Californian which is closer but not moving... there may have been another nearby ship that was nearby as well but very slow
@@alangriffith1006 think Mount Temple was near but they were stuck in an ice field.
He already made a video about that, you can probably search it up and find it.
That’s what the captain of Britannic tried.. so I think it would have been a similar outcome
Great video! Thanks for your detail!
Whenever i see anything about the titanic, i can't help but think about how mad or disappointed the people tgat worked like crazy to build it. All that blood and sweat, and it didn't make one trip.
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Youre right sam, the ship definitley put up a good defense for as long as she could, she was fighting that water back !
I find it hard that few take into consideration that sinking could have been prolonged. If after opening the gangway doors on E deck and no one using it to load lifeboats. If it had been closed again and all open portholes been closed. Titanic could have last longer. That gangeay door opening was probably bigger than the entire damage caused by the iceberg. When the water level reached it, the flooled increased exponentially. Those two things being closed alone could have made, maybe 15 minutes or more life to the ship. Stop and think about that!!!!!!
New drinking game: Take a shot every time he says, "Titanic"
This man is the most knowledgeable Titanic historian I've ever come across.
The other one is the man from ocean liner designs
@@RichieW90210 Oh yea Mike Brady
There's a lot of good Titanic documentary footage here on UA-cam