Bitten By a False Water Cobra, Is It Bad? Do Not Replicate!
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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i'm just glad that the channel is about kevin and his animals again. the old editor made it all about hit pieces which is ok but people are here for kevin and the animals not drama. it's so nice to see
I have to disagree. Donny hits on important info that pertains to what Kevin himself teaches us about. More knowledge
I see both perspectives. The hit pieces were things I am also concerned about but I get you point.
@@tinadavis43 I have to disagree, just because its important doesn't mean it's good for this channel, its not why people come here and the videos were long, repetitive and more common than the content that actually gets views, a lot of the time it's out of the viewers control anyway and just depressing.
Both things are good for the community to see, though im not a big hit piece guy, if people in the community are being dirt bags they need to be held accountable.
Hey Andy!! Can't wait to see what's coming @
My false water cobra was such a gentle, sweet and curious girl. She got to the point that she knew the sound of my truck and would perk up and look outside the window when she heard me pull in. Sadly, she had a bunch of internal cysts that we didnt know about until it was too late, they burst and killed her and there was nothing the vet could do. We are planning to get another in the future, but im giving it some time because her loss was so heartbreaking and we have many other reptiles to take our attention for the time being.
WOW guys. Thanks for showing the effects. No one will let a snake hold on that long in reality but thanks for letting the public know that these snakes aren't going to kill them. I know some people give you attitude about doing this but basically I could accidentally injure myself at home (not snake related) and have swelling like this. It's way past time people kill these beautiful creatures because they're ignorant of what they really are. Kevin I love your content. It makes me miss my beautiful reptiles I used to have years ago.
Thank you and yes we know a bit more more on what to expect in worst case scenarios.
Parents get freaked out by a Dekays in their yard but kids are hurt more by vending machines 😂
Run Susie, that soda machine is looking at you!
Hey andy thanks for helping kevin! We appreciate you man! Much love.
Thanks!
Our False Water Cobra is the friendliest most handled snake we own... at over 4 feet now. They make great pets.
I think they're pretty cool. Currently I only have Leopard geckos but definitely considering a False Water Cobra ❤
Yes they do!
They are def cool.....I like snakes to look at but I can't hold em....it's a legit phobia....I couldn't even pick up an eastern garter snake wearing gloves😂😂😂😂
Im really wanting to buy one in the future so if you don't mind me asking I was just wondered what's the general temperament I own a boa myself and they're usually really docile snakes , obviously there's some that aren't because certain owners haven't regularly handled them
Do they get really defensive or anything like I know this bite was from a feeding response
Are they as docile as boas
@@slapbass8723 Ours loves to be handled. He is a VERY busy snake, always moving when being handled, he seems very curious. My son was bitten once, when he stuck his hand in the cage and was mistaken for a rat.. he let go right away, no issues. We've had our since he was a little noodle, he is close to 4 1/2 feet now. When he was a tiny noodle, he was bitty.. but then stopped as he got bigger.. but I think many snake breeds are like that when very young.
I like how you showed a normal bite vs a longer envenomation.
I have seen a long envenomation on Jeff from JMGreptile. He talks about it in his vids as well as repeat envenomations by different snakes.
I think it’s fair to say that we are not at a huge risk with the odd exception of an anaphylactic reaction.
Good job on the videos!
Yeah, although I wonder if the allergy can develop after a bite? Dingo was hospitalized after getting bitten by a different random colubrid because after his mamba bite he is so sensitive to venom that even a garter snake could kill him. Can that only happen if its a really severe envenomation? Or is it like a bee where just at random after a sting of any severity you can get an allergy?
@@andrewbloom7694 the body can randomly develop sensitivities. I know a man, he envenomates himself regularly as he collects venom and that seems to keep him safer. I think poor Dingo just got quite unlucky. Heck he’s even allergic to snake feces!
I’m a falconer and I’ve had a mild bird allergy for years but when I started working with them it eventually changed and I can now put my face against my owl and smell her with no effect, but as I said it was a mild allergy.
I can see kevens chanel growing because of your professionalism. The quality has improved.
Thank you!
This was so informative and helpful. FWC is a bucket list species for me, and I can see there is nothing really to be afraid of if they do bite. Thank you so much!!
Way to take one for the team, Johnny! Thanks for the documenting the results of your bite. On another note, Nicole has gorgeous finger nails.
Hi Andy! Glad to see you helping Kevin. If I lived near NERD, I’d be volunteering all the time.
Hi Lori! Happy to help!
9:00 great observation, since it was a food response and the venom is modified saliva for digestion, he might be getting more venom than if the snake bit in defense. Very interesting concept to consider,
Glad to see Kevin has some help with the channel. Thanks for helping Kevin / NERD out Andy!
A reality check on snake bites and the truth of different vemons . Thank you its fascinating .
So is this all leading up to an Eyelash Viper? 🤣
I think there is sufficient data on those to not do that one. I think we want Kevin functional. There is a huge difference between viper venom and colubrids that are technically venomous but not specifically venomous to humans. I know a guy who lost part of his finger to an eyelash viper and his only comment was that it was not a good time which is why he always uses equipment when handling them now. There's a big difference between doesn't usually result in human death and technically has venom but it's for killing a different group of animals so it's not that noticeable and humans.
The reason why they're doing these and showing them or at least the original, this one obviously was an accident, is because these types of snakes almost never cause reactions in people because it's very simple to avoid the reaction by removing the snake the moment it bites, therefore there's very little data on what happens if you're dumb enough to leave them hanging or run into a situation where that happens by mistake due to complex circumstances as in the case of this video.
Nope!!!!
This comment gave me anxiety😂
Nope, no, noooooooooooooope
a friend of mine took a bite from an eyelash back in the day where one fang hit his finger and the other went into the couch. it was in NJ in the 90's so he couldn't go to the hospital as all of his hots were illegally obtained in PA or through the mail (glades herp, lol) so he just sat it out overnight. while he did say it was excruciating, he made it through. It happened during cleaning, he wasn't free handling on the couch, it's enclosure just happened to be next to the couch in the basement.
Love to see this documented! Thanks again for the sacrifices. Excellent points to consider, as they are very visual snakes, that moving too fast could trigger something. Had not considered that for this species, but it hasn’t been a problem either. That swelling and bruising is crazy though! Glad to see it come down relatively fast with little to no pain. Great “series”!
Looking forward to all the videos coming. Thanks to Andy and all for helping Kevin put out his wonderful and interesting videos!
Great to see and hear Andy! Nice one helping show Kevin’s channel at its best
Right on I'm digging this format and these mildly venomous snake bite videos, very interesting!
Just curious is donny gone now ?
Hello Kevin very interesting video 😊 Hello Andy welcome i hope both you and Kevin benefit from producing these great pieces 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Awesome to see his friends stepping up to help him maintain the channel and still keep us up to speed
always
@Kevin thank you for these videos showing the effects of the different species modified saliva on human flesh. That bite was gnarly. I can see the bruising I'm curious as to how long it took to return to normal after the invinomation??? It's very interesting that there was no spin associated. I'd think with the bruising and the swelling there would have been more pain with tesoecially this species of reptile. The false water cobras I thought would be a horribly painful bite but this is changing my mind.
If normal means no or little swelling about 36 hours. Thank you!
hmm, the last venom bite video did well, but i dont fancy going through that again! i know, i'll use my staff! Genius! 😅😅
another awesome video tho guys! 😂
Something I've wondered while at expos. If a snake bites person A and person A has some type of blood transferrable virus (like Hepatitis, HIV, etc) and that same snake bites person B soon after, is person B at risk of contracting something from person A?
Interesting question!!
Hey Andy! Glad to see you working with Kevin on content!
Thanks Susan!
Hey Andy Gabbs. Thx for helping Kev
Thanks for watching Luke!
I love these videos ty❤ I'm excited for the hognose because I want to buy one so bad but I'm scared of being a bit😊
Jus have to say i love ur content kevin. Always have been a supporter of the nerd family and EMG i just wanna throw out there so ppl know. This is a case to case basis..everyones reaction could be diff if u are allergic to a wasp or sonething like that probly would have a diff outcome. Great info tho love the videos as of late. That bee video was a nice change of content. I want bees now. Lol thanks..😂
Thank you, Johnny for taking a bite from your snake for Kevin's educatioanl video. I am so glad it didn't hury. It certainly looked painful.
Super helpful!! I have had my FWC for a couple months. Always wondered what would happen if he got me, so thanks for this!
Up next someone gets bit by Lucifer. Please no.
probably not that one lol
I am glad for the documentation but can’t say it didn’t make me nervous for both of you thank you
Totally forgot to pin the comment, but here it is ua-cam.com/users/andygabbs
Get it pinned to the top ❤ xx
Rare to see working man's hands on YT lol
Is a Taco Supreme the new Klondike bar ? Getting bit a few times as a kid, took away my fear of handling snakes. the lessons i learned taught me to observe their behavior :)
lol when he was talking at the end did Kevin interrupt him and say “yeah we don’t care”??!!! Lol
bahahhahahahahahahahaha
I know from experience that intense swelling will cause pain itself. Skin can also burst from the swelling. Mine happened by a black widow bite. It caused sepsis. Nearly killed me and almost lost my leg. I spent two months in an out-of-state hospital where I was transferred to from a local hospital that couldn't deal with it.
High Dose B-12 will/can help with any residual nerve pain. Helps a lot with regeneration of smaller nerve pathways. It helped so so much when I got my copperhead bite, and the crush injuries of my feet from getting stomped by a 1 ton draft horse. With the snake bite, I had nerve damage from the edema, that was persistent numbness in my ring and pinkie fingers, as well as, at times those fingers felt like they were being held in boiling oil. Doc said it was going to be that way for life pretty much. But being a nurse and having exposure to hundreds of doctors and research personnel, one of them told me about the high dose of B-12, and within 6 weeks of the edema resolving and skin damage healing, the nerve pain was gone completely except for issues with really cold weather exposure. The foot injuries came with spontaneous nerve firing that felt like I was getting stabbed with an ice pick without any stimulus at all. The B-12 pretty much prevents that from happening if I remember to daily dose with only a slightly above normal dose of B-12.
Thanks for the video. I definitely won't be letting my male latch onto my hand lol. That swelling looks like it's not fun.
I'd love to see a Spotted Harlequin
I have been hoping for videos like these. I was curious on the effects of these venoms
Thank you for the cool video Kevin!! I wish you well!!🤘🤘
Great educational content guys! However please make sure this doesn’t turn into cellulitis
If Coyote Peterson hears about this, he's going to want to get a piece of the action. I have nothing constructive to ad, so I figured I'd just troll a little bit,
If you have more people interested in getting bit. It would be interesting to see how common over the counter meds help with healing and reduction in swelling.
This is fascinating! Thank you for allowing these bites to help us understand better about these amazing, beautiful animals. I've personally wanted a FWC, but as soon as hubby heard it was "venomous," he said NO WAY. Maybe some day....
Pleasure to meet you Andy. Thanks y'all for sacrificing yourselves for science. The takeaway for me is to avoid being a chew toy for snakes. 😆
Love that documentation, now Im way less scared of my cute boy falsie (always had gloves)
Thanks for the video. I wish the background music wasn't so loud or was not such an aggressive rock sound.
And he’s okay! 🤘
Yes he is!
Next up, the Inland Taipan!
It would be interesting to see the difference between a hognose bite on you with your yellow jacket allergy and a similar bite on someone without that allergy.
My falsies have bitten me a couple times, always a feeding response. They've never held on and chewed on me like that...yet.
I had a kingsnake that bit me once and absolutely wouldn't let go. Tried several things, but what worked was a small cap filled with tequila. Spit my finger right out. Thank god he wasn't a Mexican Kingsnake.
I was bit by my hognose years back I was young it was a food response but nothing happened
Oh my goodness ! Andy ! Hi it is so nice to see you ! Hi Kevin I hope you are having a great day ! Love you so much !❤❤❤🐍
I wonder if there's significant difference between a hog nose and garter snake?
11:38 "yeah we don't care" OUCH
So, this is the same way a Garter Snake uses its venom... I assume.. Different venom, but same delivery.. ?
Yeah, practically. A modified "molar" with a groove that sort of contact envenomates. Let me tell you, when my girl works that back tooth in, you know it.
Love the background music😎🤘
Interesting this experiment🐍Then I have to watch the next video about hognose bite.💚
If they were legal where I live, I'd probably have one🤓
Seeing the hognose will be interesting compared to your previous experience. Could be worse or similar based on potential allergy response and history of significant invenomation.
Showing a quick bite compared to the prolonged one was a great idea to show the difference between the two scenarios.
That bruising all the way up into the bicep is a little bit alarming. That signifies some legitimate coagulopathy. Especially if the person were a child or more slightly built
More education on rear fanged venomous is cool. Good to know that the reactions are not severe. I’ve only been bitten by Garter Snakes in the rear fanged species and never for too long.
They do tend to bleed a lot, but never had one latch on long enough to envenomate. I have been chewed on by milk snakes, but no reaction there.
I’ve had one grazing bite from a venomous snake and that was an experience I’d rather not have again. I say “grazing” because the bite looked more like a slash on my leg, but I knew within a few minutes that it was a snake bite. The fact that the snake was still there was a dead giveaway and then there was the abnormal pain for a scrape against a tree trunk. I always look prior to stepping over logs now. I did stand on it first (the log, not the snake), but never bothered to look down before dismounting.
90% of my woodland hikes are in areas with no venomous snakes at all, I live on Long Island, NY. This one hike in Hudson Highlands (part of the Appalachian Mountains), when I was 16, found one of the very few Timber Rattlesnakes in the area. Not even sure if that area still has any rattlesnakes anymore, harder and harder to come by. There’s that, and I don’t go looking for them.
Again, love the education on this channel.
Milk snakes aren’t rear fanged as to my knowledge atleast, but on the snake story same dude and actually it was 1 year ago today! Cottonmouth grazed my finger mid air when I got em behind the head then lost my grip. Burner for 30 mins then nothing, that woulda sucked.
I just caught a garter finally, if Kevin doesn’t do it first I’m gonna make a bite document video on a Eastern Garter, I’m in Louisiana, I’m curious to see what they pack! It tried a small ribbon today, found rear fangs which didn’t know ribbons were too!! Got one in my finger about a minute and it did actually burn a tad, electric feel but it only lasted a few mins and nothing else
@@jakebrouillette8268 yeah, I’m aware they’re not rear fanged. Was using it as a comparison. Most kingsnakes are chewers when they grab you.😁
@@jakebrouillette8268 garter and ribbon snakes are in the same genus, so both are rear-fanged. I see garter snakes all the time, but never ribbon snakes even though they’re native to my area.
@@ziggy4465nice, wish we could swap lol I only ever see ribbons and this was my first garter of the year
How about a Baron's Racer some day?
This has me curious about the effects of my egyption false cobras venom. Can't say I'm willing to test it though, as I have have heard mixed reviews, and I type all day for a living lol
Always great content K
Appreciated.
@Andy, good to finally see who was behind helping Kevin out! I cant say I have seen you or your channel before but now I will.. I think I can speak on behalf of at least a decent % of Kevin and NERD's followers when I say thank you very much for helping Kevin out! It has been great seeing lots of content coming out from the channel now AND we dont have to hear that absolutely agonizing voice of the complete fool who IMHO had basically destroyed the channel here and probably on other platforms as well.. the dude tried to make the channel about him so badly and based on the thousands of comments people couldn't stand him with me probably being the more vocal one because I seen him using stupid drama tactics to try and create growth by creating feuds in the reptile community which would never work plus its not 2010 and to me the dude had zero clue how YT actually works and yeah IMO he was awful for this channel, Kevin and the community.. the channel has never been better content wise and every other way since he was sent packing and Kev really started slamming the content like crazy!
I personally have really liked the fact that someone started helping him by filming at least because while his "bubblegum" videos were a start to something better I dont think those had the quality to grow to a big healthy channel again and I dont even know where that term came from but it just sounds mehh lol.. I hope with your lending hand this helps turn things around and gets the channel earning properly to help Kev stabilize his operations because from just the sounds of what he has hinted it seems like the operation was really not doing the best financially and hopefully with Kev really pumping content and the changes he has made and is making to his OP things can get on the up and up quickly there! Sorry if you happen to be friends with the idiot who was running Kevs social and filming but I personally couldn't stand him along with many others and I feel like he had to be giving Kev really shitty advice and obviously he was not in it for anyone but himself because as far as I know he wasn't ever helping Kev out as a friend and just wanted paid which I get but I think he was highly responsible for the channel doing poorly and I certainly would have not been able to take payment at some point knowing I did that but I think he is likely still full of himself and probably still doesn't get he sucks. Hopefully you dont even know the guy lol but again thanks for helping Kev out and we already see you actually know what you are doing and being an actual good friend!
I’m curious to hear if his legs ever felt like Kevin described his legs feeling weak after the bite from the Mangrove snake?
Super interesting, I would love to get a Falsely, and know the worst that could happen helps me not have any hesitance. The Hognose would be cool, I have seen other Hognose bites where the hand swells up.
After hearing the Gartersnake is rear-fanged venomous, I have wondered what the worst a Gartersnake envenomation would be.
Maybe a part 4 Gartersnake?
I live in Sacramento but lived a good part of my life in the foothills above Sac and used to catch all kinds of different snakes and lizards. Once I took a really good bite from a huge garter snake and my finger was really irritated and swollen for a few hours and stayed a little swollen for the rest of the day but it itched where it bit me like crazy, kind of like a bee sting. I figured it was because I caught it coming out of a shallow filthy pond in the heat of summer, maybe got some type of infection but I've heard that they can have modified saliva as well. It's the only time that happened and I've been bit many times by species indigenous to Northern California. This was a giant garter snake too, not sure if that matters.
Interesting video!
Really interesting to see, I wonder if there’s a similar variation in people’s reactions to different snake venoms as there is in spider or mosquito bites? I’m highly reactive to some types of (not medically significant) spiders, but not others. Hoping you still keep up the educational content and animal behavior videos while working with Andy…
Great video guys
Wow, for only a minute chew that’s pretty wild effects! Note to self don’t get bit by mine. A neck bite would probably be fatal (she bit my neck once but I got her off fast)
Emily and Ed (at Snake Discovery) have one or two hognoses, including a few spicy ones who bite whenever they can.
If you need to, I'm sure they'd be fine with you giving them a call and going there to get munched on... :)
These bite videos are very interesting!!! ❤
Variable bush viper 👀 that’s a real bite ?
I’ll leave that to the Pros!
@@NewEnglandReptile 😂 don’t blame you. Great documentions too 🙌 keep up the good work
Next up, allowing the Barron's Green Racer and Blanding's Tree Snake to latch on and record the events. We may be pushing into pay-per-viewership territory for that excitement. And remember my man, pronounce it as...... DO, like do for science, VORRrr like vorrr, KNEES, like your knees. gland.
Well, that was interesting
Love the experiments
I am curious to see if the swelling would go down quicker with one of our Defend patches...???
I wonder how the reaction would be if you take Benadryl
These videos are educational and should at least put reptile owners at ease that this is what to sorta expect as in worst case senarios. I'm allergic to wasps, bees, and such and was so worried about if I had a hognose, and had i got bit if I would have an allergic reaction to that and be put into a hospital like the bee venom did. Well a month into owning my snake, I was tagged by my hognose and no reaction. A year into owning her, she got me when i was cleaning her tub, and she chewed a little but not enough to be over a 20sec. and my hand had looked similar to this false cobra bite, I lived obviously, and was in discomfort, throbbing in my hand, limited use for a few days, and was inflammed but still no where close to what a bee did to me. As I look at these videos and dealt with a hognose chew on me, that the bees are worst than what these snakes could do.
Red beaked snakes are worse than all three of these
Wish the state of Maine would allow False Water Cobras and Dwarf/Super Dwarf Retic's
This is very interesting thank you for sharing
I think we would take a coyote collab any day of the week!
Is a Gila Monster much worse?
I get that false water cobras are pretty much harmless but I would never intentionally get bitten by any snake that has venom because even if it's not toxic enough to need anti-venom you never know how your body may react, you could have an allergy that you might not know about.
You really have to blur it all out good grief
Kevin
Ya, we don’t care !!
LMAO 😜
Very interesting I like false water cobras but you can't own them in New York State. They come under the heading of venomous snakes. An are illegal in ny
Got bit and chewed on by my one of my friends falsie, And the results was not really as severe. But this was a as stated worst case scenario. Got a bit of swelling and some headaches and dizziness.
Id say thats pretty bad. That swelling is dangerous. Your skin can split and/or cut off circulation. A swollen finger? Fine. A whole arm? Umm... The medical professional in me (im a phlebotomist and ekg tech) says go after the whole hand swells. Please
Did you see the end results from Kevin's mangrove snake bite? That looked waaaay worst and it healed no problem.
His entire arm swole
Id say the biggest risk is if you try to use your hand while it's swollen and you end up rupturing something, but this degree of swelling isn't that severe so probably not that big of a deal. To me this looks about on par with the amount of swelling experienced after a surgical incision on a hand, and less than the amount of swelling associated with traumatic injury like getting a hand stepped on by a large animal or crunched on by a big dog. For me this actually makes me a lot more comfortable with false water cobras because I am a biologist and I have seen some stuff but this, this is not significant and under normal circumstances you're never going to have this animal attached for more than 30 seconds. That said the blood thinning effects were quite noticeable I'll be at minor so anybody who's on blood thinners or medications that interact with blood thinners would probably not want to keep one of these just in case there was an interaction.
I'm very interested to see the hognose since they don't use their saliva as a venom and it's sort of accidental or transitional if you prefer that it causes swelling. A byproduct of the same molecules used by the immune system as the digestive system. Useless for killing things but still causes swelling however finding one that will actually latch on is going to require one with an over-the-top feeding response and poor training. And of course the other thing is is not every population actually has enough lipase to cause a reaction as was found when they were originally researching the genus, making them kind of similar to what's seen in human saliva.
Mot a whole arm.
Guys think you for what you put out there in the name of science not pseudoscience. I've been around since the days of the shed in South Florida if you know you know.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that all of y’all have lower than average body temps already? How is he 83🤣 you’re supposed to be 98.5 always
98.6 is core body temp. With a temp gun you are only getting body surface skin temp.
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Is next week a Gaboon bite ?
What would happen if the false water cobra evolved into a real nasty venomous cobra without yall knowing?
Hahahaha
It could happen right????
Sacrificing your bodies for science!
Why? Seriously! You are encouraging bad animal behavior. Reactions will be similar, though may differ from human to human.
No how nuts, or desperate for attention can you get??? Well, Andy, you are as crazy as he is!