How Modern Ships Have Advanced Since Historic Disasters At Sea | Built From Disaster | Spark

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  • Advances in boat technology, including the design features that allow passenger ships to operate safely.
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  • @historicstudios2708
    @historicstudios2708 4 роки тому +7

    Titanic was very well built actually. The Titanic’s problem was that she could only stay afloat with 4 watertight compartments flooded and the iceberg opened 5. If the titanic was as badly built as people nowadays say it was, she probably wouldn’t have lasted 2 hours and 41 minutes up in the water. The Olympic was also built the same exact way titanic was, and she got hit in the stern by a battleships bow which was made to literally sink battleships, so you’d figure a weak passenger ship would sink right off the bat from that. Nope! She survived! The Olympic also sank other ships, one by accident and still survived. Titanic simply had bad luck because the iceberg opened too many compartments, but even then, I don’t know of any other ship that lasting nearly 3 hours before sinking. That’s not to say the Olympic class had no flaws, they did, but they were the safest and strongest ships of their time.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Рік тому

      Olympic sliced both a Nantucket tug and a German U-Boat in half. Sinking lesser vessels was one of her hobbies.

  • @Keys879
    @Keys879 5 років тому +1059

    Rule #1: Don't call them unsinkable.

    • @Blueman1018
      @Blueman1018 4 роки тому +16

      Now it’s doomed

    • @RU-zm7wj
      @RU-zm7wj 4 роки тому +4

      They didn't. The commentator said the opposite.

    • @geohiekim8705
      @geohiekim8705 4 роки тому +15

      Also, name your ship something humble, so fate doesn't want to go *wanna bet* ? Ya know, like bob.

    • @chesswar9553
      @chesswar9553 4 роки тому +2

      Rule #2, double check and double edit the design of the ship to reduce sink-ability on paper.
      Rule #3, build a model and enhance its sink-ability to test all of its safety features at any given scenario.

    • @chesswar9553
      @chesswar9553 4 роки тому

      @Jacob Zondag: Or a menu when you enter a buffet.

  • @Alejandro-vb2fx
    @Alejandro-vb2fx 4 роки тому +708

    "To have a drinka, go for a swima and get some resta"

  • @rebeccathomas2217
    @rebeccathomas2217 4 роки тому +327

    hey look the ruby princess i hope no virus outbreaks occur onboard

    • @TheKaiTetley
      @TheKaiTetley 4 роки тому +5

      Rebecca Thomas. Yep

    • @afrodieter8891
      @afrodieter8891 4 роки тому +15

      Thats what the bulkheads are for.

    • @steuk6510
      @steuk6510 4 роки тому

      Not just sinking what about a fire

    • @pete5668
      @pete5668 3 роки тому +17

      they need to install a virus alarm system with sprinklers that spray a hydroxychloroquine and zinc mixture.

    • @kendelion
      @kendelion 3 роки тому +1

      Poor diamond princess. Are they sisters?

  • @americanpanzer4163
    @americanpanzer4163 5 років тому +536

    Unsinkable... I know I heard of a ship that is unsinkable somewhere before but I can't remember

    • @Th3M4larky
      @Th3M4larky 5 років тому +32

      Psst... Titanic.

    • @americanpanzer4163
      @americanpanzer4163 5 років тому +38

      @@Th3M4larky there is no possible way it was the Titanic at all

    • @Th3M4larky
      @Th3M4larky 5 років тому +7

      @@americanpanzer4163 I mean they said it was unsinkable, which was false. But if you're looking for a ship is actually unsinkable, I have no idea.

    • @satyris410
      @satyris410 5 років тому +15

      You've got an unsinkable ship have you? I've got a bridge to sell to you

    • @ScottKoningisor-gs8kr
      @ScottKoningisor-gs8kr 5 років тому +4

      The Titanic didn't actually sink, that was the Olympic--and it was scuttled. Nobody died.

  • @richardgreen7225
    @richardgreen7225 3 роки тому +31

    Unlike politicians, engineers learn from history, learn from failures.

    • @manuelaigner5126
      @manuelaigner5126 2 роки тому +3

      If that is not one of the wisest things if read on the internet in a long time.........

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 Рік тому

      Sadly it isnt engineers that run ships ... it is MANAGERS ... who then employ CHEAP LABOR where one guy doesnt understand the other, because they took the cheapest ones from the global pool AND these managers allow "a security chief" to become the naval captain of a cruise ship. That is the story of the Costa Concordia.
      Do not consider your statement to be "true" forever, because biologists / doctors are already "giving in to IDEOLOGY" while forgetting about FACTS and "the scientific principles". Math is also being "decolonised" ... and bridges are "forced" to stay up or else they are declared to be sexist, collapsing because female engineers designed them.

    • @ayaan9646
      @ayaan9646 11 місяців тому

      Politics is a game. Engineering is not.

  • @ryandx6955
    @ryandx6955 4 роки тому +376

    Humans-We have done it! We have built an unsinkable ship!
    Ocean- Hold my beer.

  • @g43654
    @g43654 5 років тому +328

    How to make sure ships don't sink: don't put them anywhere near water.

    • @harleyme3163
      @harleyme3163 5 років тому +25

      holy shit.. sign this guy up for ship engineering... I think he's brilliant. And absolutly right.. a ship on land is truly unsinkable..

    • @markdent4052
      @markdent4052 4 роки тому +5

      @@harleyme3163that shit is funny

    • @pierogiruskie394
      @pierogiruskie394 4 роки тому +3

      @@harleyme3163oh

    • @frankmiller95
      @frankmiller95 4 роки тому +1

      Beat me to it. l just said that. Fuck me dead.

    • @Jerseybytes2
      @Jerseybytes2 4 роки тому

      best answer lmao

  • @fatsolutions
    @fatsolutions 4 роки тому +17

    It’s amazing that the ship used to show safety was the cause for many Australian deaths this year! Good ole Ruby Princess the Typhoid Mary of shipping

    • @aussiejohn5835
      @aussiejohn5835 3 роки тому +5

      I sailed on the Ruby in 2019 and the cleanliness of the ship was outstanding. The debarkle which caused many deaths was due to the mismanagement of the virus by the Australian federal and state governments. The ships crew followed directions from the NSW Health department which instructed them to disembark the passengers in Sydney before the results of the covid tests were known. The ships doctor reported a number of passengers with flu like symptoms to the Australian authorities as is required in any port in the world. The ships captain is required to take and follow the instructions of the port authority in all ports of call.

  • @VisorView
    @VisorView 4 роки тому +185

    "so you can always monitor the ship"...well, unless the fire is in the room where the monitoring equipment is...

    • @13dg
      @13dg 4 роки тому +14

      the monitoring equipment is in the brigde, the idea of this equipment is for the people in control of the ship (captain or OOW) know what is happening, for example if a fire is starting and where, in order to answer to this situations fast. If the fire is in there its obvious that they know about it so they can do a fast response.

    • @AquaticSCP
      @AquaticSCP 3 роки тому +5

      D G ITS A FUCKING JOKE

    • @kamilpawel9606
      @kamilpawel9606 3 роки тому +1

      You would be great couple 🥰🥰ur sense of humour his knowledge of equipment of the ships (?!wtf). .. and u both like shit movies 🎥 on UA-cam... love is in the air

    • @kamilpawel9606
      @kamilpawel9606 3 роки тому

      Aaa D G that was also a joke ...

    • @wolfiethesniper5403
      @wolfiethesniper5403 3 роки тому

      @@AquaticSCP calm down jesus

  • @_monti142
    @_monti142 5 років тому +38

    Thank you Spark for posting full documentaries on UA-cam, it is greatly appreciated.

  • @ingebrecht
    @ingebrecht 5 років тому +12

    A friend of mine on his first fishing season was going to sign on with the Galaxy. They took too long so he went across the street and signed with them because the share was just a little bit bigger. His ship was first on the scene when the Galaxy caught fire and they reached the majority of the crew. The boat deck was so hot the rubber soles of their boots were melting. People were clinging to the bow sprit and flag pole. One crew woman jumped overboard with no survival suit on into the ice cold water. Another crewman with a survival suit on jumped in right after her and pulled her mostly out of the water on top of him. She was rescued as quickly as possible in the rough sea but she was already in a coma. They were told to put her under blankets with two nude crew members on either side of her nude body. A slow gradual warming was needed and this was the best they could do. The swapped crew out every 45 minutes. She ended up sleeping with every man on the crew. She survived. A year later she ran into this friend of mine in a bar and they had a few laughs and she bought him a drink. Heading back on board that night he fell off the gang plank into ice cold water. He mourned the waste of good whiskey because he was instantly sober.

  • @justanotherasian4395
    @justanotherasian4395 4 роки тому +56

    As much as I wish ships were unsinkable, they aren’t. Mother Nature always wins.

    • @sirankleknocker3122
      @sirankleknocker3122 3 роки тому +1

      TheAmateurAsian make it out of mother nature’s own weaponry

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 3 роки тому +1

      I remember having to climb up several floors to get to the deck so I could walk back and go down for food.

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 3 роки тому

      If you want to build a ship that can't sink, you need to make it out of a material that floats.

  • @kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836
    @kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836 4 роки тому +46

    Show:
    *Calls cruise ships classic*
    Me:
    *Cries in ocean liner*

    • @10gamer64
      @10gamer64 3 роки тому

      I feel your pain, and another must sail soon, or they will be gone, forever

    • @philipdovey8799
      @philipdovey8799 3 роки тому

      Now it is a floating apartment

  • @andrewerntell4775
    @andrewerntell4775 3 роки тому +55

    Update 2020, the Ruby Princess was responsible for the Covid-19 outbreak in Australia when she docked in Sydney. The ship design was not at fault, but the medical team on board ignored clear signs that Covid-19 was present and spreading on the ship.

    • @tomonabudget
      @tomonabudget 3 роки тому +7

      They did everything in their power and notified authorities of possible cases.
      NSW health ministry allowing passengers to disembark, enter Sydney and travel through the country without quarantine or even awaiting Covid test results were responsible for the outbreak.

    • @AwesomeAngryBiker
      @AwesomeAngryBiker 3 роки тому +2

      @@tomonabudget in that case the ships crew and passengers were at fault. They're knew there was a contagious virus onboard and still disembarked rather than wasting their money

    • @christopherburnham1612
      @christopherburnham1612 2 роки тому

      Wondered about the co-vid outbreak in Australia

    • @gazzafloss
      @gazzafloss 2 роки тому

      Of course the fact that at the time the potential of COVID was a pretty well unknown disaster waiting to happen wouldn't have had a bearing on decisions to disembark passengers that were made at the time. Everyone is an expert on making the absolute correct decisions in 20/20 hindsight.
      As it turns out the Ruby Princess debacle has had little effort on the outcomes with this virus overall. It was already here when that happened.

  • @torrace12
    @torrace12 5 років тому +168

    25:10 its *150% life boat capacity, not 100%* _since people cant be expected to run around the ship looking_ _for the last available seat! and the life boats cannot be expected to depart fully seated._
    _on top of that there is a 200 percent life vest capacity_

    • @theluckyone3212
      @theluckyone3212 4 роки тому +3

      torrace12 some new cruise ships have this policy, enough lifeboat seats for every passenger, and enough life rafts for crew

    • @Glennovan
      @Glennovan 4 роки тому +14

      @@theluckyone3212 As per the SOLAS convention all passenger ships abide by being able to accommodate 150% of the ships capacity by minimum, this can be 150% on each side of the ship if the life rafts cannot be transfered from each side of the ship

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 3 роки тому +6

      if it's 150% it should be 200%, because there is a list angle that disables half the life boats of the ship because they can't be launched safely because they will impact the side of the ship.
      Perhaps they already took care of that some other way but I've never heard of how they solved it.

    • @torrace12
      @torrace12 3 роки тому +1

      @Arvid Kracht a good joke should not go unrewarded, so - haha, but really its a good idea, private emergency equipment.

    • @torrace12
      @torrace12 3 роки тому +1

      @@Glennovan so the ships layout decides if there have to be 150 percent on each side or not

  • @lagresomadsl
    @lagresomadsl 3 роки тому +4

    Scandinavian star was a fire of arson. By the crew.
    Estonia was not an accident. It sank because someone made it sink.

    • @fireredorange2659
      @fireredorange2659 3 роки тому

      Why is everything a conspiracy to you people ?

    • @lagresomadsl
      @lagresomadsl 3 роки тому +1

      @@fireredorange2659 what is "the conspiracy"?

  • @jeh4138
    @jeh4138 4 роки тому +22

    If the corridors were designed so that as you get closer to an exit, the corridors are made wider. One reason is for easy identification of which direction to proceed, another is that as more people travel through the corridors towards the exits the path increases in capacity because it is wider.
    And all corridors could have phosphorescent panels so that people can see the passage without power required.

  • @ElmoRaj
    @ElmoRaj 4 роки тому +82

    Fast forward to 2020, Ruby Princess is a plague ship.

    • @rickcruz3382
      @rickcruz3382 3 роки тому +1

      They should be called cootie cruisers thanks to China's corona virus

    • @5Andysalive
      @5Andysalive 3 роки тому +2

      But hasn't sunk or burned.

    • @besteos
      @besteos 2 роки тому +1

      @Fredrik. S Yes, it was.

    • @HappyfoxBiz
      @HappyfoxBiz 2 роки тому

      @Fredrik. S no, it was the Ruby Princess that was docked in Sydney.

    • @plutoidrepublic2765
      @plutoidrepublic2765 2 роки тому +1

      1: COVID aint a plague
      2: covid is about to end

  • @christianeriksson4733
    @christianeriksson4733 2 роки тому +2

    The worst thing about Scandinavian Star is the fact that most likely the shipping company initiated the several fires for insurance money. Insurance was increased vastly just weeks before departing.
    During the fire, ventilation and doors were opened in a way that could only be done by part of the crew so that the fire would increase in intensity and propagate with most efficiency. The same ventilation and door configuration was actually tested some years before the catastrophe when the ship was sailing the Caribbean.
    A drunken truck driver, who died as a result of the fire, was blaimed for all of it but he had a very high dose of alcohol in his blood at the time of death. This makes it unlikely he started several fires on different floors, as well as starting them in just the right places.
    Also, as the ship eventually came to a list, the rescue operation required ballast water to be pumped. According to one of the ship technical officers, this could only be done if the fire extinguishing efforts were terminated. This was shown afterwards not only to be false, but also to be exactly what was needed to reignite the main fire and let it spread over the entire ship.

  • @davejones5640
    @davejones5640 5 років тому +5

    I like how they put a show in between commercials.

  • @ShibalSsi
    @ShibalSsi 3 роки тому +12

    the scandinavian star also had dead end corridors wich alot of the passengers were found grouped up in, and there was in the investigation found that vents and doors that were not supposed to be open were in fact open. so the fire got alot of air supplied wich further made the fire spread quicker. i heard a audio documentary about it 3 months ago, was really interesting

    • @christianeriksson4733
      @christianeriksson4733 2 роки тому

      The Swedish P3 documentary? Really interesting one if that was it.

  • @quagswagmonkey2210
    @quagswagmonkey2210 3 роки тому +7

    i'll keep this video in mind next time i build a ship

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 5 років тому +34

    The bald engineer discussing evacuation corridors has some badass glasses at 14:50.

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff 5 років тому

      @@reconx86 cool. Wanna get some with LED's in them. Thanks.

    • @wolftmfg
      @wolftmfg 4 роки тому

      thereissomecoolstuff Leave it to the Italians 👌🏼

    • @lorispain1
      @lorispain1 4 роки тому

      Italians are so stylish!

    • @NIGHTOWL-jf9zt
      @NIGHTOWL-jf9zt 4 роки тому

      Ill bet those are not un sinkable.

  • @Lalfy
    @Lalfy 3 роки тому +5

    This is a little older than I expected. Ruby Princess is 12 years old now.

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 3 роки тому +3

    Dunno why but this documentary is making me incredibly nostalgic for the mid 2000s.

  • @jamesrobinson5672
    @jamesrobinson5672 5 років тому +121

    With these ships getting bigger and bigger. It takes me 3 to 4 days, to figure out,my way around. That's without alcohol!

    • @internetsummoner
      @internetsummoner 4 роки тому +1

      James Robinson lol

    • @mrluigi9923
      @mrluigi9923 4 роки тому +2

      a waste of a 10 day cruise.

    • @mjordan233
      @mjordan233 3 роки тому +1

      I am gonna go on a cruise ship for a month. a world tour

    • @jamesrobinson5672
      @jamesrobinson5672 3 роки тому

      @@mjordan233 👍happy sailing.

    • @olegkosygin2993
      @olegkosygin2993 3 роки тому

      @@mrluigi9923 more like a 10 day incubation period amirite?

  • @berendjanweurding9866
    @berendjanweurding9866 4 роки тому +9

    The Titanic was the basis of the SOLAS Rules (Safety Of Live At Sea) which are the basic rules for all vessels.

  • @lazyeye79
    @lazyeye79 5 років тому +26

    Giorgio looks and sounds like an Adam Sandler character.

  • @zaptor1514
    @zaptor1514 4 роки тому +22

    Might I remind folks of the recent Costa Concordia. Say no more on sink resistant.

    • @mtfunitomega-17floridamen76
      @mtfunitomega-17floridamen76 3 роки тому

      That incident could have completely been avoided if the captain was not so incompetent. Its truly just a sad story.

    • @Gavichap
      @Gavichap 3 роки тому +1

      @@mtfunitomega-17floridamen76 It doesn't negate the fact that the ship sank, however. Too much damage in too little time to keep the ship afloat, watertight bulkheads notwithstanding. Thank goodness the wind turned and pushed the listing ship on that providential rocky plateau. Otherwise.....

  • @Cinema1920x1080
    @Cinema1920x1080 2 роки тому +1

    Great documentary! Note on the Estonia (post this doc) is that a diving crew discovered a hole on the side of the ship (possible collision with something).

  • @peterlogan706
    @peterlogan706 3 роки тому +11

    They forgot Covid protection on the ruby lol

  • @TrebleForTheBass
    @TrebleForTheBass 4 роки тому +25

    23:00 The ship staff exhibit the importance of always wearing a gold chain when you're on an Italian ship

    • @craftpaint1644
      @craftpaint1644 3 роки тому +1

      Keep your hair combed and wear a pinky ring too 🙃

  • @kikufutaba1194
    @kikufutaba1194 3 роки тому +7

    One thing about engineering is they find many different ways to make the same mistakes.

  • @williamgriffin6912
    @williamgriffin6912 3 роки тому +2

    MS Scandinavian Star, originally named MS Massalia, was a car and passenger ferry built in France in 1971. The ship was set on fire on April 7, 1990, killing 159 people, and the official investigation blamed the fires on a convicted arsonist, who died in the fire.[1] This finding has since been disputed.

  • @zhemeevallopianeslinjerdum9569
    @zhemeevallopianeslinjerdum9569 3 роки тому +1

    years ago, I was on the Carnival Splendor, from Buenos Aires to NewYork. one by one, everyone crew included contracted broncitis and upper resiratory infections and conjunctivitis (pink eye) I, saw the ships doctor. But yeah, we ALL were sick. we called it "The Carnival Cough"

  • @neiljamison4865
    @neiljamison4865 5 років тому +25

    That-a Ship-a, is a Safe-a Ship-a

    • @watsisbuttndo829
      @watsisbuttndo829 3 роки тому

      Little did the poor bugger know that it would become a courier of death in 2020!

  • @thesketchydude1315
    @thesketchydude1315 4 роки тому +6

    Some of the Ships I recognized in this are 2:00 SS Romanza, 2:08 Herald of Free Enterprise, 2:11 SS Achille Lauro, all of which aside from Romanza had a Rather Troubled history/end, also kind of surprised they didn't mention Moby Prince, an Italian Ferry that was destroyed by fire in 1991 after a Collision with an Oil Tanker with 140 dead and one survivor

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 Рік тому

      All you need to mention to make this entire video POINTLESS is ... the *Costa Concordia!*
      tl;dr A "bad ship" run by a GOOD CREW is safer than a "good / modern ship" run by BAD MANAGERS who then hired a BAD CREW! This is also the reason why nuclear power IS NOT SAFE ... because managers will eventually try to cut corners for a bit more profit, which will then cause the desaster.

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence 3 роки тому +6

    the x-bow is a neat design. missed out that it was inspired by viking ships! also the x-bow has problems with efficiency when going over 18 knots. ship hull design is a complicated art form. looking forward to seeing the 1st nuclear powered ocean liners. all that pollution is something that needs to be addressed.

  • @markheaney
    @markheaney 4 роки тому +19

    It is good that the design engineers keep improving their designs.

    • @manneredcheetah6665
      @manneredcheetah6665 Рік тому

      no shit. otherwise we would still be living in mudhuts

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 Рік тому

      @@manneredcheetah6665 "If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts." - Camille Paglia
      The problem is NOT "the engineers" ... but rather "the MANAGERS" who dictate how a ship is being run. Just take the *Costa Concordia,* a really modern ship that was run aground needlessly by a captain that had been promoted from security guard instead of naval position AND where the crew didnt speak the same language.

  • @angusosborne3151
    @angusosborne3151 5 років тому +65

    No ship is unsinkable and unfortunately we don't float until after we are dead

    • @Jakeobfreedman
      @Jakeobfreedman 5 років тому +8

      Angus Osbòrne my friend has a boat that can’t sink. The hull is filled with foam. It’s literally impossible to sink. You can make any boat unsinkable, it’s just a matter of cost and how much space you’re willing to sacrifice

    • @David-oy4ng
      @David-oy4ng 4 роки тому

      Stan, are you talking about a Boston Whaler

    • @biohazardlnfS
      @biohazardlnfS 4 роки тому +4

      @@Jakeobfreedman don't say that or mother nature will come

    • @twotone3471
      @twotone3471 4 роки тому +2

      The US designed a unsinkable ship, but it was made of mostly Ice, so not exactly a all weather craft.

    • @maxthibodeau3627
      @maxthibodeau3627 4 роки тому

      there has to be a way to make an unsinkable ship

  • @VerilyVerbatim
    @VerilyVerbatim 3 роки тому +9

    15:50 Does that simulation account for the elderly, or those with some other condition, which prevents them moving as fast as everyone else?

  • @tw06le1
    @tw06le1 5 років тому +13

    I Lived on Oasis & Allure for 7 years, I've seen waves bigger than both.

    • @mandithegreeneyedbeauty6627
      @mandithegreeneyedbeauty6627 3 роки тому

      Wow what was it like to live on one. And may I ask why u lived one them. Did u work on the ship that would be so cool to live on one. But not if it moving

  • @huyg
    @huyg 5 років тому +13

    Amazing documentary as always!

  • @andrewleeadkins93
    @andrewleeadkins93 4 роки тому +3

    They talk about computer simulations timing how long it takes all passengers and crew to move about and get to their muster point. But one fatal flaw I see (and I’m be no means a marine engineer) is that these simulations assume everyone calmly goes to their assigned stations. If I was on a ship and heard the abandon ship order, I doubt passengers will calmly go to their assigned muster points. It’s going to be a “WHERE THE HELL IS A LIFE BOAT!!!” I’ve always been curious about this.

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ 3 роки тому

      Where did you get that from?
      Where does it say that the simulations assume calm passengers?
      Because that would be a stupid and pointless simulation and I don't think that they would use such a flawed premise.

  • @Stopthisrightnow560
    @Stopthisrightnow560 3 роки тому +7

    Oh, hey, Ruby Princess. Thanks for bringing us Coronavirus. ❤ Australia

  • @thisisme3238
    @thisisme3238 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative and interesting too! Thanks...

  • @JerickMiranda
    @JerickMiranda 4 роки тому +3

    Oh how I miss cruising Ruby Princess to Alaska! 🤗

  • @ZaccoOfficial
    @ZaccoOfficial 3 роки тому +15

    Watching a video about ships while flying a plane in flight sim x but in reality i actually like trains.

  • @geronimo5537
    @geronimo5537 3 роки тому +16

    "maybe one day all ships will looks like this" me: oh I hope not

    • @5Andysalive
      @5Andysalive 3 роки тому +2

      On these ugly massive cruise ships boxes it can't make it worse.

    • @Steve25g
      @Steve25g 3 роки тому

      @@5Andysalive eye sores...never will go aboard of those

    • @eirinoshrinestudio8098
      @eirinoshrinestudio8098 3 роки тому +1

      I prefer the original straight bow design used on 1930s ship than that monstrosity of a bow

    • @disrespecc9678
      @disrespecc9678 2 роки тому

      time stamp?

  • @willtopower2158
    @willtopower2158 3 роки тому

    Excellent video, learned a lot, Thank you!

  • @itskurianjoseph
    @itskurianjoseph 3 роки тому

    Excellent summary on ship design.

  • @MrMultiH
    @MrMultiH 3 роки тому +4

    That X bow design looks a lot like every fish ever. I recon the fish were on to something first..

  • @ieuanhunt552
    @ieuanhunt552 5 років тому +28

    They mention Titanic and other commercial ships causing innovation in ship designs. But a lot of these innovations were pioneered by Warships. It turns out the very same technology you need to protect your ship from torpedos also stop your cruise ship from sinking.

    • @xxka0tikkxx
      @xxka0tikkxx 4 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately War forces innovation because more resources and money are allocated. The US for instance allocates damn near $1 *TRILLION* dollars a year on the Military Budget.

  • @EricaHLjung
    @EricaHLjung 3 роки тому +1

    not to mention that on the Scandinavian Star, some fire alarms were not connected to the system and the fire was fueled by a 'broken' hydraulic line leaking 120000 litre of diesel fuel. One corridor was named 'the crematorium' because there was nothing left of the bodies but coal.

  • @andrejohnson1488
    @andrejohnson1488 5 років тому

    Very beautiful design.

  • @johnv7317
    @johnv7317 5 років тому +6

    Ulstein X-Bow ship gives me hope that one day we will see a transatlantic oceanliner similar to the design of what Norman Bel Geddes intended.

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 Рік тому +1

      You should bet more on ground effect vehicles/planes instead. The russian who built the war"planes" for the Soviet-Union had started thinking about creating GIANT versions of them to be able to ferry a whole battallion of soldiers across the oceans ... and apparently the ground effect becomes more efficient with larger size.

  • @bcn1gh7h4wk
    @bcn1gh7h4wk 5 років тому +54

    40 knots.
    the marine equivalent of warp speed.

    • @bcn1gh7h4wk
      @bcn1gh7h4wk 5 років тому +20

      of course small craft would go much faster, I mean for large ships that's a lot.

    • @King_of_Africa
      @King_of_Africa 5 років тому +2

      @Norm T Eventhough he's referring to ships of that size. 52knots seems slow for Jet ski

    • @dynamicsolution8166
      @dynamicsolution8166 4 роки тому +9

      @Norm T what a stupid comment comparing a jet ski to a huge car ferry! Wise up norm!!!

    • @scottwhitley3392
      @scottwhitley3392 4 роки тому +3

      Norm T jet ski’s use aqua planing to to overcome drag, a conventional ship going 40 knots is very good

    • @blewyd
      @blewyd 4 роки тому +1

      @Norm T yeah it's a fucking jet ski...

  • @albertjabs1644
    @albertjabs1644 4 роки тому +3

    The 1987 collision between the Philippine-registered passenger ship MV
    Dona Paz and the oil tanker MT Vector was the worst peacetime maritime
    disaster in the world, and has been described as “Asia’s Titanic.” Over
    4,000 people died in that incident. A year later, the MV Dona Marilyn
    sank in a typhoon, taking nearly 40 people with it. In 2008, the MV
    Princess of the Stars capsized at the height of a middling, category two
    storm. Sixty-seven were confirmed dead, with 747 unaccounted for.

    • @michalsoukup1021
      @michalsoukup1021 2 роки тому

      Dona Paz is an exercise in human calousness.
      MT vector was running at night, with no lookouts and no one on the bridge so they were assigned guilt. Ill reiterate, NO ONE was on watch. Even if nothing has happen, this would in my opinion fully justify summarily shooting all of the ship's officers and sailors.
      Of course Dona Paz crew outright abandoning and semblance of responsibility for their ship and passengers would suffice to summarily execute them too

  • @brandonterrazas4788
    @brandonterrazas4788 5 років тому +10

    More ship 🚢 documentaries please !!

  • @MrSubmariner13
    @MrSubmariner13 4 роки тому +32

    Ship owners: we have built an unsinkable ship.
    Mother nature: wanna bet?!

  • @animehuntress9018
    @animehuntress9018 3 роки тому +5

    Throughout this whole Doc, I was remembering the issue with whale strikes. So question for anyone nautical who would know. Has anyone thought of putting a speaker in the nose or close to it that would sound low noise that would just give them a heads up? It seems obvious so I'm thinking there is an issue implementing it and am curious as to what the issue is.

  • @kiiiisu
    @kiiiisu 3 роки тому

    actuallygood doc, thanks

  • @davhuf3496
    @davhuf3496 3 роки тому

    Well done documentary.

  • @kamrongrant
    @kamrongrant 3 роки тому +3

    Every Australian watching more than a few months later: Hahahaha Ruby Princess... Riiiiiiiight.

  • @MurCellic1903
    @MurCellic1903 4 роки тому +5

    One of the major problems in most of those accidents were due listing, safe boats on either side of the ship couldn't be deployed. It cancels out 50% lifeboat capacity during capsizing and unfortunately no mention of this made in the video.

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy 3 роки тому +1

      Correct. As far as I can tell, the only viable solution to that problem would be to use huge gantry davits like the ones on HMHS _Britannic,_ and the only argument I can find against making something like that standard is that the ones they had back in 1916 were supposedly too "ugly" to be used on civilian ships.
      However, they have designed falls that will automatically break off when submerged, which is a huge step in the right direction.

    • @maearcher4721
      @maearcher4721 2 роки тому

      Listing also slows down the evacuations greatly. Both should shouldn't be overlooked.

    • @markmcintyre9893
      @markmcintyre9893 7 місяців тому

      Not strictly true, it depends what it’s mounted on, some davits are designed for listing in that they extend out, others have wheels to go down the side of a listed hull. If that fails there are also life rafts which are not affected by listing but are even more uncomfortable

  • @BigBlueJake
    @BigBlueJake 3 роки тому +1

    Life's little ironies - cruise ship profiled in science documentary for fire safety becomes infamous for virus spread. You can only engineer so much, then it's up to the people and their training or precautions.

  • @robertaverill936
    @robertaverill936 3 роки тому

    This was very enjoyable..

  • @NickFerry
    @NickFerry 4 роки тому +223

    only a minute or two in: "Built From Disaster!" because a show called "Learn From Your Mistakes" sounded too elementary and hit the wrong demographic

    • @miniena7774
      @miniena7774 3 роки тому +9

      Nick Ferry
      And?

    • @pengwens6281
      @pengwens6281 3 роки тому +12

      My mom says she wants to make her co-workers watch shows like seconds from disaster and aircrash investigation to teach them what goes wrong when you don't do your job correctly and cut corners. She works in IT for a retailer but she still believes lots can be learnt from these shows.

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers 3 роки тому +5

      @@pengwens6281 Absolutely. If one doesn't realize what type of circumstances can become due to simple mistakes in particular job titles, then how can you plan and execute your job properly? For instance, I am a heavy truck driver, and I have been through so many DOT and safety learning classes that I should be an expert ,but nobody's ever perfect...we ALL make mistakes, and I keep the mindset that we learn something new every single day.

    • @sparrowdactyl9632
      @sparrowdactyl9632 3 роки тому +1

      "learn from your mistakes" implies you were wrong and soft liberals just cant have that.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 3 роки тому

      @@sparrowdactyl9632 often accidents happen because of unforeseen circumstances.
      People doing everything according to the rules and their training running into conditions they have no response to, and their equipment that's also up to all the existing specs also doesn't have the capability of dealing.

  • @mwolfgr01
    @mwolfgr01 5 років тому +12

    No ship is "unsinkable"

  • @assasin101011
    @assasin101011 3 роки тому +2

    I learned from this video is 1st built/version of the machine is made for disaster...

  • @ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717
    @ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717 3 роки тому

    First time I ever saw a Car Ferry.
    I find it DETRIMENTAL that there seems to be A Market In Disasters...That Scares Me. Something that just CHILLS ME TO THE BONE...I GUESS I LOVE EVERYTHING & EVERYBODY...AND ONCE SOMETHING IS BROKEN HOW CAN IT BE MORE BROKEN. Breaks My Heart To See So Much Damage.

  • @bmused55
    @bmused55 3 роки тому +18

    15:00 - It's all well and good using simulations to test evacuation routes and times. But do these simulations take into account the utter gormlessness of many a passenger that can't find their glasses on their own heads, let alone see and follow the evac route signage?
    I've neen on a few ships and the number of people I see/hear being unable to find their way to the outside decks, despite the clear as day signage makes me weep and hope that in the event of an evacuation they are far behind me!
    What they need to do is pack the almost ready ship with a bunch of people who have no clue about the layout and then tell them "the first X number of you at your assigned muster sation gets a prize". Then watch the utter hopeless chaos!
    Also - 18:00 - The damage to Titanic was NOT above the watertight bulkheads. It was far below the waterline and the across 4 watertight compartments. The sheer weight of the water (or more accurately loss of bouyancy) pulled the bow down far enough that the water breached a 5th compartment and that sealed the Titanics fate.
    The quality of the rivets on Titanic has long been found to be perfectly fine for the time and not contributory to the disaster.

    • @ndirangugichuki6260
      @ndirangugichuki6260 3 роки тому

      You are right, but the rivets were a contributing factor in the titanic incident. If the rivets hadn't failed, the accident wouldn't have happened.

    • @zopEnglandzip
      @zopEnglandzip 3 роки тому +1

      @@ndirangugichuki6260 rivets could be a contributing factor without the quality of the rivets being a factor which is what the narrator said.

  • @Visionery1
    @Visionery1 3 роки тому +7

    I'm always amazed by improvements made AFTER a disaster, surely engineers can run through all the potential "what if" scenarios and design accordingly at the outset?

    • @Sgt_Bill_T_Co
      @Sgt_Bill_T_Co 2 роки тому +4

      Like everyone we build to the current laws, if we tried to anticipate everything we would become uncompetitive with other yards. It's the owners who choose the shipyard of least cost and fastest delivery. Thus until there is legislation there is no improvement other than those that mean cost/time reduction rather than safety features that always increase costs.

    • @christianeriksson4733
      @christianeriksson4733 2 роки тому +1

      It is a very efficient combination of the two. Hundred years ago and more, the ship builders basically only used trial and error. Now they use guidlines based on trial and error, structural engineering, and FEM analysis as well as scale model tests.

  • @jasminejohnston6393
    @jasminejohnston6393 2 роки тому +1

    The Burrard Chinook, the newest vessel in Vancouver’s SeaBus fleet, is also a catamaran. The main difference between the Explorer and the Chinook is that the Chinook doesn’t have a vehicle deck and only carries passengers

  • @nancymoyer4400
    @nancymoyer4400 3 роки тому +1

    Great educational

  • @D800Lover
    @D800Lover 4 роки тому +8

    When the boat is made in Italy, it is not a "ship" - it is a "shippe."

    • @D800Lover
      @D800Lover 4 роки тому +3

      I can get away with that because my wife is Italian. True story.

    • @rachelwxo5623
      @rachelwxo5623 3 роки тому

      😂😂

  • @Cosmic-Crow
    @Cosmic-Crow 5 років тому +3

    39:45 I find it a little funny that they're using NSTC on a ship from London (usually they use PAL)

  • @douglasbuchanan2973
    @douglasbuchanan2973 3 роки тому +1

    THANKS SPARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE LOVE TRUTH.

  • @MisteriosGloriosos922
    @MisteriosGloriosos922 2 роки тому

    *Amazing vid!!!*

  • @bitukukuasukgremany3
    @bitukukuasukgremany3 4 роки тому +6

    The 90's History Channel Modern Marvels what's it's opening tiles back :D

  • @namkangchild
    @namkangchild 4 роки тому +4

    Just happen on this video. At this time, we have the Ruby Princess tied up in Port Kembla, Australia. The source off 19 deaths so far and how many other people have contacted the corona virus is mounting. We now have a police investigation going on to try and unravel what went on with the ship to be allowed to dock at the Overseas Terminal in Sydney and allow 2,700 passengers to dis-embark. She was due to depart today, but has now had an extension due to the number off crew that have come down with the illness. Having the designs incorporated in all ships, not just passenger liners makes them safer to sail but sickness is hard to contain.
    Speaking off which I'll tell you a story off what happen to my wife and I on cruise ship called the MV Rasa Sayang, sailing out off Singapore on a 10 day cruise to Indonesia and Bali, back to Singapore and then a 4 day cruise to Penang Island and return to Singapore. The date was 12 June, 1977, time 24.30hrs, we had just left Singapore in the afternoon after the trip to Indonesia and Bali and on our way to Penang.
    Our cabin was A24, suddenly the alarm goes off for 7 times. I'm awake so is the wife. I tell her to get dressed and both put on our life jacket. She wanted to take stuff, I told her we go now, forget every thing in the cabin. I open the cabin door to smoke. Luckily, it is only light, there was a crew member who pointed us to the elevator to take us to the boat deck where we waited for further instructions. We where on the Port Side, it was the side that they where pumping water into the ship to fight the fire in the crews quarters just forward off our bulkhead in the cabin. We watched in darkness with only the ships lights. We could see the land, those on the Starboard side had black sea in front off them. Slowly the ship started to list further and at the same time we could see a storm brewing in the distance. At 05.30 hrs the order came to man the lifeboats and at that precise time the storm broke. if you have ever been in the tropics and a storm breaks, you know how water comes down.
    I was asked by one off the officers if I could help with loading the passengers into the life boats. I order my wife into the boat and then helped other passengers into other life boats. To make matters worse the scuppers, ( they are welded to the deck to take excess water that is on the decks over the side off the ship, like your down pipes from your gutters). the position off these scuppers was that they were pouring water into the lifeboats. Once on the water we were taken in tow by the motorised life boat. Dawn had broken and we could see the ship. What do we do? We could see a fully laden tanker anchor near the shore with other life boats tied up to the gangway, but no one was taken off the life boats. We found out latter that the captain was asleep and no one would wake him up. When he was woken up and communication between his ship and the authorities in Malaysia, he was informed that because we nobody had passports, not to allow anybody on to the ship.
    I was in the third life boat behind the motorised life boat. When the time came that we could board the tanker, the motorised life boat, instead off bringing the next life boat to the gangway, just cast off the tow leaving the tanker crew to pull the next boat up to the gangway. Dramas still to come! I pulled my life boat up to the first life boat, boarded the life boat, run along the gunnels of the boat and leaned against the hull off the tanker to push the life boat away from the hull off the ship to lower the gangway down so that passengers could board the tanker. I stayed there until all passengers were on board the tanker.
    Now we waited until the ships crew could land our passports into the hands off the authorities, before we where able to board the life boats, with myself and a couple off other young Aussies as we were back in those days, helped the passengers back into the boats and able to land on Malaysian soil. We were then placed on air-con coach back to Singapore. Cruise East put us up in 4 star hotels with all expenses paid. Remember, we are still in the clothes that we put on after been woken with the abandon ship siren. Some Aussies as usual went over board. Some Aussies complained that their bags were not properly packed. These received blasts from some off us, that some passengers received their luggage in black plastic bags and your complaining that your bag is not packed correctly. My wife and I where the first ones back in Australia, arriving at Sydney Airport, with one off the Qantas staff asking for my wife's name and given her a pull over from her mother as she thought that she would be cold. We were met by Cruise East staff asking if we would do a TV interview, which we did.
    After all this, Cruise East offered all passengers a free 10 day cruise and you made your own way to Singapore, Bali or Indonesia, which we did the following year. I had a great time! caught a ear ache
    at the resort in Bali, carried it on to the ship and spent the next 10 days in bed. And to make matters worst, the sewerage treatment plant on board the ship packed it in at Penang for 2 days. Was glad to get back to Australia and home for myself. My wife did the other thing. We dropped her at work, (Allen, Allen & Hemsley in Sydney) as she was so excited about the adventure.
    To add to this, my wife and I lived at Arcadia, a Suburb North West of Sydney, on five acres that was off the main road. My wife's mom and dad, looking after the property whilst we were on the trip. Cruise East, knowing that we would be the first back to Australia, phoned them and were told that they would be picked up by limo and transported to Sydney Airport. Arrangements were made that the would meet the limo driver at Galston. Mom and Dad stopped the car outside the bank, next to the garage on the corner which they did at about 05.00 hrs. The limo drive arrives and so does the cops. Some passing cars had phoned the cops and told them that a vehicle was parked out side the bank and thought that a robbery was going to take place. After many telephone calls by the limo driver to his superiors, that they were allowed to proceed to the airport. How about that!!!!!!!!!!

    • @billduckworth6760
      @billduckworth6760 3 роки тому

      You should publish a story in a cruise magazine. Thanks for sharing.

    • @aussiejohn5835
      @aussiejohn5835 3 роки тому

      This is an amazing story and is worthy of recognition but I must say PLEASE DON'T SAIL ON THE SAME SHIP AS ME.

  • @deby5983
    @deby5983 3 роки тому +2

    I love the way Italians speak, both in Italian and English. Almost musical. I love the U.S., but we should've gone metric decades ago. So tired of Googling metrics to get a sense of distance, speeds and sizes!!. LOL Thank you Spark for uploading this. Stay safe everybody!!

  • @SDandRnRoll
    @SDandRnRoll 5 років тому +1

    Very gooda filma

  • @HomeMadeCnc
    @HomeMadeCnc 5 років тому +6

    We've had several adventures on the Ruby!

  • @thetalentclothing2375
    @thetalentclothing2375 4 роки тому +6

    I don’t wanna be that guy but isn’t that “new ferry bow design” just a Viking ship shape without a large dragon head snaking out the top?

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy 3 роки тому

      Well, those longboats certainly made a lot of long trips with very few major problems. The modern design of tunnel thruster mounts also takes influence from the trireme warships of classical Greece.
      If a design is effective, why not keep using it?

  • @glaticstorm32
    @glaticstorm32 3 роки тому +1

    23:33 the music is called Harmonic spectra by Terry Devine-King... I looked for this track for over 15 years and found it :)

  • @mycologyqueer
    @mycologyqueer 3 роки тому +1

    eyyo why is this just an hour long ad for the ruby princess tho lmao

  • @bernardvard2954
    @bernardvard2954 5 років тому +10

    i worked on the scandinavia star when it was called Massalia with croisieres Paquet ( Marseille Dakar run)

    • @Mega_Trond
      @Mega_Trond 2 роки тому

      Did you feel the ship was safe? or did you se it, as an unsafe work place? Srry for my english.

  • @natehill8069
    @natehill8069 4 роки тому +61

    "She was at least 560 kilometers from the nearest land..." Nope, from what I hear its only about 3km deep there.

    • @leemcmullan
      @leemcmullan 4 роки тому +3

      lots of innocent people died a horrific death and you make that joke?

    • @SatlaE
      @SatlaE 4 роки тому +3

      why the hell is depth matter? 560 kilometers of HORIZONTAL way

    • @davidwadsworth8982
      @davidwadsworth8982 4 роки тому +2

      Muster drills are a waste of time.Can not no way expect people to react correctly after one half ass drill.Parents will run to cabin to get kids, folks running everyplace,5,000 people .I have cruised ,was a merchant mariner,I learned at least three ways to get to my assigned boat.And as a pro,would be pressed into helping anyhow.Been in situations as a guest,when I looked into a crew members eyes and saw fear.

    • @Weird.Dreams
      @Weird.Dreams 3 роки тому +1

      @@leemcmullan Too soon?
      Lee Lee smells of wee and he is a moron!

    • @masyapanama1298
      @masyapanama1298 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidwadsworth8982 True, but performimg muster drills on every cruise is a SOLAS requirement. This makes them an officially mandated waste of time...

  • @640A
    @640A 4 роки тому +1

    They're not unsinkable because human error can always occur but they're very safe with the latest technology in safety! That would definitely give me a piece of mind.

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 Рік тому

      Technology is an excuse to "cut corners" ...

  • @spencerlahh
    @spencerlahh 4 роки тому +12

    how to make a ship unsinkable
    step 1: don’t make the statement that it will be unsinkable

    • @wilsjane
      @wilsjane 3 роки тому

      Aer Lingus have taken your advice. Few people know that they have not had a crash of serious injury in flight for more than 50 years.
      However due to the Irish superstition, they will never use it in any form of advertising.

    • @mtfunitomega-17floridamen76
      @mtfunitomega-17floridamen76 3 роки тому

      Step 2: Don't promote head of security to captains.

  • @Edvard.Munchkin
    @Edvard.Munchkin 5 років тому +6

    "I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that"

    • @williamgreene4834
      @williamgreene4834 4 роки тому +1

      Look up rogue waves. Modern ships sinking is very common, like dozens a year.

    • @thebitsanpiecesman4423
      @thebitsanpiecesman4423 4 роки тому +3

      Daniel 1 cpt E J smith

    • @lakshyagrover6379
      @lakshyagrover6379 3 роки тому +1

      Same was the thought with the lenged titanic though its gone but we should remember people who sailed on it as well as titanic for giving such adva ce features to protect ships though those features are more advanced today but still lenged should still be remember there is saying that change needs sacrifice and titanic and people who sailed on it were born for that yeah it was tragedy but nature has its own way of working

    • @boataxe4605
      @boataxe4605 3 роки тому

      lakshya grover He was quoting the Titanic’s Captain.

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy 3 роки тому

      Well, RMS _Adriatic_ certainly didn't sink.

  • @RobbyHouseIV
    @RobbyHouseIV 4 роки тому +2

    Scandinavia Star decorating people- "Hmmmm, I'm rather fond of this plastic paint colored hue called Zyklon B. What do you think Fred?"

  • @odin-legosydhagen9113
    @odin-legosydhagen9113 5 років тому

    Yes finnaly i found a cruise ship video whit fram from hurtigruten

  • @CesareVesdani
    @CesareVesdani 4 роки тому +3

    To prevent ships from sinking, they must have good water tight doors.

    • @benediktmorak4409
      @benediktmorak4409 3 роки тому

      but dont forget one thing. those watertight doors and BULKHEADS must also LOCK when a disaster strikes. and not being blocked by trash or things used to store right in front of the doors.

  • @kvltizt
    @kvltizt 4 роки тому +8

    Don't increase speed as you head into ice fields.

    • @MrArthurGiles
      @MrArthurGiles 4 роки тому +2

      Butter Johnson, the increase in speed was just newspaper talk. No experienced crew would do it and they were all very experienced sailors - and had all used the same route in earlier vessels.

    • @Computerlegacy
      @Computerlegacy 4 роки тому

      Arthur Giles well they didn't exactly slow down

  • @LG633TV
    @LG633TV Рік тому

    The Ruby Princess was the last cruise ship I was on. I celebrated my sweet 16 on board the Ruby in Alaska

  • @patrickbrookings
    @patrickbrookings 4 роки тому

    Ite ise fantastice to watche!

  • @dougmc666
    @dougmc666 5 років тому +3

    Technical safety advances often don't work out, there have been several captains who chose a route with a rock in it, one captain ordered his ship to sail at high speed at night and hit an iceberg. There have been bridge crews who don't like the annoying alarms, so they silence them. Changes in bow door design only work when someone closes the door. Multiple escape routes are built into engine rooms so the CO2 fire suppression system can't be used until all the crew members are found. The really dangerous thing is thinking the tech is safe by itself.

    • @dragmit
      @dragmit 5 років тому +1

      There has been "safe" gasses used in fire suppression for years called Halon. I have done installation and testing on these in commercial computer rooms. You can work open faced in a room full pf Halon and still breath while fire can not burn. I do not know if it was ever found to be harmless, but I am still around 40 years later after many exposures. Except for the extra ear I grew everything seems to be fine! ;'P

    • @samuelfellows6923
      @samuelfellows6923 3 роки тому

      Tim Gard - Except for the extra ear I grew.....🙃

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy 3 роки тому

      I mean all of those factors generally get less dangerous the more you try to design humans right out of the equation.