Are AJR as Bad as Everyone Says? (theneedledrop review)
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Are AJR as Bad as Everyone Says? (theneedledrop review). AJR have been making a name for themselves over the past few years with albums including The Click, Neotheater and OK Orchestra. But with worldwide exposure can come an onset of haters. Is the dislike of AJR's music really justified? Or are people just liking what their supreme leader Anthony Fantano tells them to like?
Also, I'm now aware that his name for himself is "The internet's busiest music nerd." Don't ask why I thought it was "Everyone's favorite music nerd."
0:00 Intro
1:56 Uninspired and Derivative
4:00 Songs for Children
7:35 Not Interesting and Bad Ideas
11:50 OK Orchestra "Review"
12:39 Make Your Own Opinion
14:20 Closing Thoughts
#ajr #theneedledrop - Розваги
Uninspired? Nah they looked at a SOCK and thought “that dock has seen more of the world than I have”
i like to think this isnt a typo and they just think about the places a random dock has been and think as if the dock was an adventurer
@@frenchtoast2573 That's how it reached the ocean
@@dwarflanternsharkfriend6713 are it's eyes open? To sail the ocean? Finding where it should be?
@@frenchtoast2573 Yup
they heard a knock and turned it into Bang!
Honestly, the fact that he's disgusted by Ryan for coming up with a name for his future kid without having found his significant other yet just ticks me off. Like, who are you to judge someone for coming up with a name for their future kid!? That's just so stupid of him to do in my honest opinion.
Honestly tho, it’s not that deep at all. Its so common to think about names for your future children like..... what point was he trying to make.
@@Via71631 ok but making it into a goddamn song that he poured his whole fuckin' heart and soul into , the fact that he's ok with his future child being whoever the hell they wanna be has a meaning, think about it, they could've made that song about drugs, girls, cars and all that other shit, but they made it about Ryan's future child, and that has a good damn meaning if you ask me, listen to the song over and over and find out the meaning and then I want you to realize "hey this song's awesome, they're awesome, they're not like other writers who write song about sex and feeling good bc you did something bad, no they write songs that make YOU feel good and make you feel better about yourself and making sure that you know your not alone"
@@notamemerjustanidiotpyc2531 oh no I think you didn’t understand my point, I know how meaningful the song is, I was commenting on the guy who was judging Ryan for thinking of names for his future children and how the reviewer somehow felt it was necessary to mention that thinking of names for your future children is weird, which is totally not the case.
For real! Like, I have my absolute favourite boys and girls name on a list. How is that disgusting?
It's a song, get over yourself it aint deep
They tell us to be different
But no one told us we could go to far.
~AJR.
That hits deep
Ajr isn’t different, that’s why they get bashed on. It’s so uncreative and derivative
@@sgtmeatball2141 How so? They seem like one of the most creative musicians out there at least in my opinion
@@averystars-virtualyoutuber9559 literally every production method they’ve done before is a stereotype in pop. Non of it is original, it’s all cliché
@@sgtmeatball2141 Nothing wrong with cliche as long as you put your own take on it. They sound like that stereo typical alternative pop rock band that also reminds me of Imagine Dragons or FUN, but I do find myself enjoying them nevertheless.
fantano’s channel is the whole point of music discussion in general. he shares his opinions on music, people either agree or disagree. To say that music review channels are pointless doesn’t really make sense imo. People who love music like to talk about music. The same goes for movies, sports etc. music review channels like fantano also help people discover more obscure artists they never would’ve known about, so they are a great way to find out about new music as well.
it just feels like he has a bone to pick with ajr ngl
@@eluclid you clearly don’t ever watch him then. he doesn’t gaf about ajr
@@sting6061 that's crazy but it just seems a lil weird
I can agree with that much but Anthony like actively goes out of his way to revisit stuff with joke videos that people take way too seriously, just fostering bandwagon culture. It's crazy how most people I've seen shit on AJRs music haven't even listened to the songs they're talking about and refuse to provide elaboration without insulting the supposed "intended listener" directly.
@@saadkhan8308 you’ve put into words what I’ve been thinking for the longest time now
wait, there is people that thinks AJR is bad? omg I think they do super good songs, idk
Some people find it out of place but I haven’t heard of people hating it in general
Edit: so I went to TikTok and searched up AJR and uh, let’s say it’s, not something you want to see if ur an ajr fan
@@ghastiafy67 yes holy shit......... What are they on that they think this is bad?
I've been listening to them since they released "Im ready". I personally think they are amazing.
Basically, They're generic
Exactly
i have no idea how ppl hate them, just because you don't relate to it doesn't mean its garbage. Same goes with the KIND of music they produce, they make insanely unique sounds and music
They sounds and use of samples suck ass
Cuz they sound overproduce and uncreative, and almost all of their songs are basic plastic happy beats with sadboy lyrics and generic 2010 R&B vocals on top, all the cancers in modern pop in one band
@@felipedenis8709Overproduced is an odd way to spin it. Some of it, yeah, like the little chorded yelling but they also have songs like “God is really real” and “Dear Winter” with almost 0 excess sound. As for uncreative? yeah, it’s basic blabber but hey, they gotta put the simplicity somewhere
People dont hate them bc they can not relate they hate them because they sound like shit lmao
@@felipedenis8709Ha! Nice one.
Here's your answer: No. Not at all. Their music is amazing.
i feel like some people just clicked for a second and said " nah i wanna go back to listening ariana grande " but if u really listen you will love ajr's songs that's how i became a fan after my friend showed me 100 bad days abt a year ago
@@anonymouslyanonymous9057 homie all their music is about the same uninspired garbage and their style is so boring and overdone 😩
@@traviscrawford6516 Just responding off the top of my head but…
Way Less Sad- Talking about the road to recovery from depression. As someone with diagnosed anxiety and depression, this song by people I admire gave me some hope for the future.
My Play- Discusses the toll it puts on a child after their parents got a divorce, It’s a really touching piece that I think anyone can appreciate.
Karma- Feeling so angry and guilty about doing good and not getting anything in return.
Don’t Throw Out My Legos- Talks about how difficult it is to move away from your childhood. It is really emotional and I really suggest it.
3’oclock Things- Feeling as if you cannot say anything remotely out of line, or you will fall from fame and discuss how they feel fed up with it.
@@traviscrawford6516 that's your opinion
@@NoahIsThaGOAT true, I can't argue with that. lets just say there might be a reason that the click is one of the worst rated albums of all time.
There is SO MUCH to unpack from our youth by the time we actually feel like adults, like let's talk about it. So even though I'm turning 30 I can still connect to even their older music because I'm still processing a lot of my youth.
I have just come to accept that some people just wont like or downright hate on AJR but sometimes it's just not fair
They just want to express themselves
Let them be
people that criticize AJR actually just make stupid excuses on why their songs suck, for example "Brad Taste In Music" just mocked the song and got annoyed at everything that was Unique about AJR
@@frenchtoast2573 I really like brad taste in music but his ajr reviews kinda annoyed me
@@frenchtoast2573 I love Brad and I'm a fan. I found the video very enjoyable to me, but I have to point out that I wish he had more technicality and less bias on his review.
Preach!
oh boohoo you could use this excuse for practically every artist that has ever been hated on, but you wouldn't say the same thing if it was MGK or 6ix9ine would you. My point is if an artist is hated on then there's a good enough reason to not just "let them be" and criticize or even hate them and the people doing so have every right to do so *let them be*
I really agree with this! I got into AJR's music because a friend played it once while we were hanging out, and I really enjoyed the songs so I went and listened to the rest. To me they seem very passionate about their work and their fans and their music is so _real._ It was disheartening to start to see so much hate towards them and jokes stereotyping their fans for reasons that just didn't make sense to me. People call their music all bland, but have they ever actually listened to like... Karma? That song is so raw and full of emotion, it's anything but bland. And saying that Ryan is single because of the theme of a song he made just feels more like a personal attack more than a critique of the band's music. Dear Winter is very sweet, it's one of my favorites. The "all their music sounds exactly the same" argument doesn't make much sense either-to me it's always seemed like each album has its own distinct style. Songs on Living Room don't sound like songs from Neotheater. Overall I just don't understand the hate they get.
You can dislike their music, it's a matter of opinion of course, but just don't try to ruin the fun for others. Just let people enjoy what they like.
Exactly! I've been left in tears from their music. There's so much raw emotion. And each song has so much thought put into it. I've heard that people say the overtures are bad because "it sounds to busy." But if they take the time to really listen, they'd see that it's not busy at all. Each part of the song has a certain flow to it. Like you said, they're allowed to not like them, but this is just too much.
Karma is raw and full of emotion? Although I think that is one of the least bad songs off neotheater, I would not reach and say that it is "raw". Dear winter, as said by Fantano, is about naming your son before meeting your partner, and that does not seem healthy to me. The argument that all of their songs is the same kinda of makes sense if you see what they're aiming for, reducing any kind of simple emotion/thoughts to a younger audience to enjoy. They may do songs that are kinda catchy, but saying they are deep is too much.
@@luizin1801 I wouldn’t say naming your future child before agreeing about it with your future partner is toxic. I mean some people who want families often times may have certain names in mind for a child and some don’t. Arguing that it’s toxic to name a child that isn’t even a clump of cells yet with a partner that you may not have at the time is an illogical argument in my opinion.
It’s like thinking of a name for a pet that you don’t yet have in your life or even know the species of.
And yes, not all of AJR’s song reaches the same depth as some others might but something I personally like about their songs is that they focus on a single subject or idea. It expands out in a way that others who may not have experienced that event can understand the nuances of the feelings or thoughts one might feel at that time.
@@tjtrashcan9761 How the fuck, making a decision that needs the participation of BOTH partners alone is not toxic? Are you fucking high? Not to say that the depth that they reach with their music is only relatable to 14 year old kids or to adults that have never had any problems in life. AJR is not a "deep" or "thoughtful" band, and I really doubt it will ever be.
@@keys.and.knives lmao if u want raw emotion in songs than listen to Lingua Ignota “DO YOU DOUBT ME TRAITOR”. Not this shit lmao
Definitely appreciate your thoughts, because I wasn’t understanding why people didn’t like this band. The baby name thing really frustrates me, because isn’t it stereotypical for most young women to have their baby names picked out? Why is it considered so heinous when a guy decides what he might want his kids name to be but not a woman?
A lot of the stuff he says about artists he doesn’t like is very hypocritical. The fact he gave SOUR a positive score(**), and hates AJR for not being original, is a red flag for me and just proves the point even more. Also, I like that you said something along the lines of “I like their music, and that’s all that matters.” Don’t let music reviews make you feel bad for liking specific music. In the end it’s all based on their own opinion. The one thing that bugs me though is the fact his army of followers won’t listen to a record before critiquing it. Fantano listened to ‘CLOUDS’ live on his twitch and barely any of his chat liked it before he said anything, and then fantano said it wasn’t too bad. When ‘LOST’ dropped, he listened to it, and I think it the poll was three to four times more positive that time…
**If you like SOUR that’s okay, but I just find that having every song about a breakup is kind of annoying and repetitive. I would consider it a breakup soundtrack more than an album.
AJR is great and it didn't really deserve the hate. I suppose SOUR is okay and I'm not gonna die listening to it, I just prefer non-breakup songs, although Brutal isn't one. Brutal is pretty good
Exactly! I did not like SOUR- mostly because it's not my style, but because I heard one of her songs on the radio and literally thought it was Paramore (I know that's an old comparison, but that's how I felt) and I went and listened to it and I couldn't get back into it.
I actually liked SOUR. It's kind of the point and theme of the album for it to be "sour" (hence the sad breakup songs).
Ok but SOUR is amazing
Your example of hypocritical critique isn't very good. Anyone can like and dislike music even for the same reason. Exceptions exist for a reason. It's not hypocritical in any way.
I don't like breakup songs. (or most love-themed songs in general) I think they are just not for me as I haven't experienced one. But somehow, I really like Driver's License and I actually felt empathy with Olivia there. I can also criticize some trap rapper for saying way too much about sex, party, fashion, and drugs, but I can still praise Playboi Carti's mind-numbingly enjoyable music because I somehow vibe with such an unoriginal theme.
It's all in the matter of some other artist doing it right, or sometimes doing it even better. The only way I can think of someone being hypocritical in critiquing music is when the person is doing the same mistakes they criticized with other artists. Anthony HAS displayed that sort of behavior before. (quite frankly, everyone has. But it's best not to leave that behavior unchecked)
Your other points are still true tho haha
I know he gave other reasons, but the dislike of picking out a name for a future child came off as either low key sexist or just completely out of touch with women. A lot of girls and women (though not all) pick out names that they like for their future children, likely because girls are generally socialized to prepare to get married and have kids. I kinda feel like he doesn’t like a guy doing it, just because it’s a guy doing it. I honestly don’t think he would have brought up the same point with a female artist.
I love AJR and their sentiments in their songs about not wanting to grow up because I grew up too fast. I was a babysitter for my siblings at age 8, I was the one who helped my mum through the tough times, I saw things on the internet no one should see. Now I'm 18 and I'm finally going back and watching all the kids movies I couldn't, and playing the games I couldn't. I appreciate AJR for talking about this sort of stuff.
I hope you will always be safe, healthy, and happy in life ❤🥰
AJR has made multiple songs that I would listen to and go like “holy shit this song is me.” I find most of their songs to be relatable.
3 0'Clock things was their most relatable song imo
I been good this year/ karma, legos, and good part, to Netflix one is my favorites. And get deep in em.
All their songs are so relatable but Pretender is their most relatable song for me.
for me, I feel like Birthday Party is relatable to me, in the sense that there are these problems in life that you gloss over when you're young, and they sort of just hit you as soon as you get older, which can cause a lot of anxiety and depression for someone
Big mood
Pretty solid video. AJR is not at all my kind of music but I think Fantano lets this running semi-joke he has of hating AJR get in the way of his normal approach to reviewing music. You made many good rebuttals, and overall did a good job showing that that most of his criticisms for this album really seemed like he was digging for anything negative to say regardless of its actual relevance to the music.
In other words he started with his conclusion and then worked backwards to fill in the blanks, which I think even he would agree is a flawed approach to evaluating anything.
People want to talk about how AJR is unoriginal, but considering the huge history of music, can you say any music is completely original? The main reason I got into AJR is because of how unique they sound
SAME!! there is such a big element of sound to it all
They’re literally so recognisable and have their own distinct style. People who think AJR sounds like anyone else baffle me genuinely. Just because you can hear inspirations doesn’t mean it’s the same
every ajr fan looks like this
AJR is one of the few acts that I feel physical revulsion everytime I hear one of their songs & especially if I read their lyrics, but I'm glad they have a passionate fanbase that enjoys their music and is looking to discuss their opinions online. This was a great video to watch and even though this was a primarily a reaction, you structured the video very well and I appreciated you putting in clips for context and to back up the arguments you were making. While I still disagree with some of the sentiments in the video just because a lot of music criticism is subjective no matter what, I really liked your vision and how you put this together. I'm gonna check out your other videos and thanks for putting the time and effort into this one.
Thanks dude. I think I've even changed my mind about some of the points I made after some time, so maybe some day I'll have to go back and revisit. But I really appreciate your comment and also appreciate your willingness to look at the other side and not blindly follow Fantano lol.
Ajr is the only band that I listen to and the only one that has enchanted me with each song
@@____gnar well i can cause im basically the same
@@____gnar i mean yeah, I listen to 21 piolets sometimes i guess but that's it
In my opinion, birthday party, is about some assupmtions that kids have about the world, without knowing how hard and dissapointed it can be.
Also, you can't crticize someone for naming HIS OWN child, at the end is of him jaja.
In his scaled and icy (twenty one pilot's newest album) review all he did was compare it to trench (twenty one pilot's previous album) and Maroon 5. He doesn't accept anything for what it is and just makes comparisons
every album has to be reviewed in context tho, to say an album can be viewed as it is is just wrong
@@____gnar I'm saying that both albums a good in their own way. All he expects is Trench 2 throughout the entire album review instead of treating it like it's own entity, enjoying it for what it is instead of comparing to what was
@@oldjebidiahbrown2454 But Trench is a concept album. It sets up ideas that Scaled and Icy should have delivered on, but didn’t.
It really pisses me off when people get on to ajr for writing childish songs because lots of times THATS THE ENTIRE POINT!! and lots of people listening to living room were like "it's so cliche, do something a bit different" and then when they do people are like "omfg this is garbage" like what? If you take a step back and look at AJR's songs, you can truly see how IMPRESSIVE it is that they can even do those crazy sounds, even if their music is not for you (I personally love it, but like all music, it isn't for everyone). Like the vocal thing in bummerland; my mouth dropped when I heard that because the skill needed to do that was incredible. But people were so quick to judge instead of listening and it made me mad.
I know right? Yeah it's not for everyone, but that's where it shines! It's specifically looked to certain demographics/mindsets. "For children" so what if it is? That makes it bad? "It's cliche" what kind of criticism is this that doesn't go into detail about how unoriginal it is? Does people these days can't stand happy melodies and simple vocals? Is it because it's meaning are either open and/or both closed? I understand "disliking", but "hate"? As a whole? I mean what's there to hate about them, all their songs have meaning relating to the music industry and growing up in life! It's not generic as sexual activities displayed on screen, proactive lyrics, or barley hearable vocals.
It's just as unique and relatable to me and many, many others from what I read in fan's stories. AJR music has people become comfortable in expressing themselves in countless ways. Our experiences relating to the song helps us understand eachother.
The songs "It's On Us" and "100 Bad Days" helped me comes in terms with being happy without fearing like I'm basically nothing. I don't have a healthy relationship with my parent or siblings that I could ask for any amount of support or thoughts. I don't have friends either. However, their songs made me feel worthy to continue on living. Even if they stopped making music, I'll forever be in their debt.
So yes, I'm biased. But for a reason I'll stand by for their positive influence on my life foward!
“that’s the point of their music” well i still don’t like it
fair enough, I guess that justifies why everyone (including me) hates it
So the entire point of AJR is to write goo-goo ga-ga music. Well that shit still sucks
Thank god, positivity is annoyingly hard to find. AJR is so good and means a lot to me
I don’t mind they’re derivative sounding. I just find them incredibly sterile and corporate sounding.
Beats is the weak point on Neotheater, it's the only track I don't like on that album
fair-
that one is eh tbh
I like that one because I think it’s funny they made a whole song just for an ad, like, I appreciate the comedic nature of how wacky they are for making something so crazy for something so simple. It does sound quite interesting live though
Same, its kinda repetitive for my liking
Finally a AJR video that is not slamming them thanks
ikr
“It’s so childish!”
But… they’re… in college…?
The reason AJR is my favourite band is just cuz their music is so relatable, I’ve been going through a tough time mentally and I just recently decided to listen to a bunch of AJR songs and just thinking “wait other people are going through the same thing i am” and I just felt comforted by their music like someone saying it’s ok to be like this and there other people going through the same thing
AJR has some interestingly composed electro-swing music that sounds incredible, but the lyrics to most of their tracks reads like a fifth-grader’s unfinished poetry project. I would personally consider AJR to be a guilty pleasure band of mine, and the fact that I’ve been listening to them for six years has caused their music to earn a special place in my ever-expanding playlist.
fair opinion honestly
You a song writer?
I feel like all the people that really dislike the music either look really deep into a song for excessive unnecessary depth, or just take them at completely face value. There never seems to be any in-between.
i dont like them because their music is bad
@@sirtophamhatt3532 That's a really vague and useless statement. It's also completely unrelated to what I was talking about.
As an AJR superfan I agree with this statement. I absolutely adore their music. AJR haters look too deep into the lyrics and pick it apart. If thats what you do with music then they arent for you. For me, I love them so much. I love how their lyrics are written and I love their production. Their concerts are even more incredible. For example their song Bummerland is a metaphor about how depressing the world was during the pandemic and just in general. AJR haters would say "WHAT EVEN IS A BUMMERLAND? It makes no sense it sounds do dumb and childish" bc thats the point.
People should be left alone to like whatever kind of song they like. I listen to everything from black metal to vaporwave to nightcore to indie pop and every fucking thing in between depending on what I feel like listening that time.
Okay I know this is old but this was recommended and all I have to say is AJR is my favorite artist. I love their style, I love their music, it’s so cool how they put so much effort into their work- and they MAKE the actual music. The Click and Neotheater are my favorite albums ever, and Dear Winter is such a sweet song. I understand if AJR isn’t someone’s taste, but insulting the band or making someone feel bad for enjoying their music is just low tbh. Thank you for not slamming these really creative and inspirational musicians.
Yes!
Ajr isn't an artist. Bruh, English much?
I know, like, Adam, Jack, and Ryan (AJR) write everything themselves and Ryan produces everything. But somehow Ariana Grande is more talented
"Okay I know this is old"
Dont worry bud, you might be a month or two late, I am like 2 years late
“You’re not allowed to think of potential names for your children because that’s shitty and unhealthy and incredibly messed up!”
“Wait, what the fuck?”
Finally a video that's not slandering Ajr-
I like how AJR is simultaneously too derivative AND too weird to listen to. Every critic I've listened to will say, "Ew, that's so weird," to one song and then, "Boring, heard this before," to another. So you want it all to be original but taking zero risks, right? Makes sense.
Source?
I feel like he has a personal hate for AJR and is trying to justify it, that's what it feels like from all the different things that he said against AJR it just feels like he doesn't have any true and real reasons to dislike them he just doesn't like them personally so he wants to make other people not like them which means he's being extremely biased which is not good it's not a good review because of how biased he's being
why do yall get so hurt over him disliking them? maybe he just doesn’t like the music they make😱
@@sirtophamhatt3532 the problem is it's the review but he makes them sound like s*** artists which just isn't true. They're one of the few really good artists, the industry today is flooded with people who put nothing Into their music other than the amount of money they're going to get out of that music. So tearing down one of the few artists who puts their heart and soul in their work is kind of frustrating that's all. Especially when it feels like they're review is disingenuous, not completely honest, or uninformed
@@darkblade51224how the hell is Anthony “tearing down” AJR? I don’t think AJR is in a fetal position crying about a music critic reviewing their music. How insecure are you guys?
To be brutally honest I absolutely despise AJR, and I think they make some of the most repetitive and boring music out there. However, I do understand why people like their music, and you have definitely proven that much as well. Nice video.
Still can't make me listen to them tho
I appreciate you able to look at it from the other side rather than just commenting that I’m wrong without even watching the video, I respect your opinion.
The entire reason why I enjoy watching reviews isn't to see if a song is good but it's a see if other people like the same music that I like I want to see people break it down and talk about it and s*** I don't care if they like it or not because I like it and I think it's good but I want to know is what they think about it I want to hear them talk about and discuss it and break it apart and decoded
ok so in a livestream video Ryan from AJR goes over the production of different songs and one of the songs he went over was birthday party. he actually explains the story behind their intentions of putting the sample from the Eraser head movie which makes their reasons of adding to the song more understanding and interesting. Just wanted to mention that._.
I don't think so. They put all their effort into their music and I believe that they can definitely be better but they aren't as crap as people say. I think the lyrics are their weak point though
I think they like to keep their lyrics simple on purpose. Some of them are just weak, like in My Play or No Grass Today, but others like in 3 O'clock Things or Bang, they feel like they're talking straight to the listener. I like them for the most part because they're so relatable.
I'd have to disagree. I think some of their songs have a deeper meaning behind the lyrics than you'd see at first. Some wording choices might not be understandable at first until you think about it.
@@keys.and.knives are you sure? I've listened to a fair share of AJR www.last.fm/user/Yummytaco1/library/music/AJR . And I agree there is SOME extra meaning but nothing even close to twenty one pilots or other similar artists where even though I've listened to twenty one pilots songs 10s of thousands of times I can still notice extra meaning in the songs. For example a car a torch a death. The song is about Tyler's understanding of why Jesus died because, I didn't notice that in the first place I just thought it was a weird song bye when I did it made the song so much more meaningful to me. While, Bang: oh poor me taxes suck let's go it with a bang!, Adventure is out there: where are my socks?. Get my point? If you have a point against I'd love to hear! Thank you for taking you time to read this. Not every internet argument has to be bad
I disagree with that. I think their lyrics are a very important part of their song, if you really pay attention to the lyrics you will see it really has a deeper meaning about real problems.
@@Ajokeiguess deeper meaning in an AJR song; I fail to understand. Maybe it depends on what else you listen to other then AJR? I would like to know which songs you are talking about
Ok but can we talk about how many people say things like "Its so bad I feel physically repulsed by it". Its that bad huh? Seriously?
yes
Yes, yes it is. I get physically sick.
honestly yeah. their music is overstimulating and grating
@@sirtophamhatt3532 then don't listen to them
Literally yes
I thought of Jon Bellion and Fun the first time I heard AJR.. so I thought they were kind of inspired by jon but I realized living room was a while ago and they never could have known jon at that time
i watch music reviews because i like to know what other people think about certain album and/or what's their interpretation about it, not because i want a validation of my opinion
"I really don't care what he thinks" KEKW
Wouldn’t be an AJR fan without minimum a couple funko pops
I remember when Fantano first post the oko album review and the title was originally different before being change, I think it has death grips in the title from what I can remember.
I feel like a lot of your issues with fantano’s review is that “He’s digging too deep”.
You’re pretty much alluding to how non-substantive the album is.
Man I was so disappointed when he didn't make an actual review for OK Orchestra and not just an April fools joke. I wanted to hear him rip on the album so bad. And also im not sure if you knew this, but he sent the notification out as a new Death Grips album so he also tricked his main fans. It was kinda funny ngl though
They weren't even sponsored by BEATS, which would be funny if it wasn't so sad
I appreciate this video more than you can imagine, I’m constantly flooded with hate towards this group especially by Fantano but this positive point of attention and critique of his view is needed. Love this so much.
I love how you analize these videos, you earned a sub from me
Heres a fact: If you don't like the artist just move along.
no, I don't want to move along, I want to criticize it and there's nothing you can do about it, it's a crap album
I'm glad I found AJR. I remembered having heard Weak a few years ago and liking it but all I could remember was the "oowaaaeeieeie" and I somehow found it, liked it even more than I had before, went to the channel, listened to more of their music, and ever since then they're my favorite band
I’m so glad you made this! I remember getting soooooo annoyed at Anthony’s video and the hate they were getting.
I liked AJR back on the Click and Living Room. my bias is maybe because I knew about AJR back when Weak barely had 300k on spotify. Living On Love was their biggest song at the time. I just liked the soft chill vibe.
I am an AJR superfan, an enthusiast if you will. Ive adored their music and live shows for years. I listen to all their songs and listen to them every single day! But as fans we know their music isnt for everyone. The band knows it too, theyre making the music they want to make for the fans and for themselves. They do what they do and dont care what some people say. If you want to pick it apart and talk about how the lyrics are childish and whatever nonsense, then simply they arent for you. You have to take them for who they are. The fanbase is so incredible were just a bunch of people who are socially awkward and have depressing lives(mostly cant speak for everyone), who find joy, happiness, safety, and emotional meaning in their music like I do. When I was in high school I would listen to Neotheater when it came out everyday to get me through my bad days of being bullied and pushed around. Their music has helped me through the worst. If you pick it apart and analyze it then theyre probably not for you. If you take it for what it is and love them for it(like I do) then youll absolutely love it! The fanbase is incredible. Their music is everything to me.
I agree with a lot of the points in the vid, but the part where you say people watch to see if he likes it just so they know what to like is a bit unfair. Like, cuz it's definitely something that happens but the majority of fans probably watch just cuz they're interested in what he thinks about a song. Not to determine what they should think about it, but just cuz it's interesting to see different perspectives into a song you like or dislike. Like, I watch Anthony just for entertainment. It interests me to see him talk about an album or song that I'm probably not gonna listen to or that I have listened to and I'm just curious about.
I respect that
i haven't listened to a lot of AJR, but even based off of the few tracks i've heard, i don't think they're that bad, not groundbreaking, but i enjoy some of their stuff.
edit: i checked out your channel and you're really underrated, take my sub
my problem is more with overly pretentious millennial pop in general. they make extremely simplistically themed music and act like they just rewrote the bible when other artists from 20-30 years ago used the exact same themes and ideas WITHOUT being up their own asses about it.
i think reviewing people's album saying that it's bad that's fine but don't criticize there personal lives
that's just disgusting to criticize there personal lives
Dude you're criminally underrated
I used to love ajr but then stopped listening to them, recently with everyone making fun of them I decided to listen to them to see if the music was being over-hated or if they really sucked, and in my opinion they have some good songs that still are good in my opinion, but I think that the problem with them is that they will have a song that starts off really good and is enjoyable but then they will say a dumb lyric or do something cringe like in thirsty where they yodel, ajr is not a bad band I just think that small parts of there songs can ruin the whole thing for me.
I completely agree. I nearly couldn't listen to Adventure is out there for a long time because of the quite frankly painful sock metaphor, and yet once I got over it the rest of the song was just so fun and... relatable I guess
don't really agree with thirsty, since the entire chorus just completely takes me out of the song, that being said, I don't think the pre-chorus/verses are that bad
To be fair, thirsty is like 7 years old
One thing also that I want to say is AJR does a lot of extremely original things, I love it when I listen to a song and go I've never heard of premise like this or I feel like I've never heard anyone talk about something in this way or explain it like this before. Songs like don't throw out my Legos or winter or 3:00 things, birthday party. . . There's probably a bunch more that I can't think of right now
And people say it’s “generic”
I love listening AJR, and when my friend showed me reviews and stuff on AJR, I was super confused. Thanks for making this vid
you were confused that someone had a different opinion? omg
@@lure7812 not what I meant, I meant that they never game any clear explanation.
Sorry for not making that clear, I should've done that.
@@NekaanaAvali aw sorry i was kinda being an A hole….i think ajr irritates me lately as an underground rap and metal fan, they’re very cheesy to me but some people absolutely can’t stand metal and think it’s trash so to each their own
@@lure7812 that' alright, it happens.
I think that music tastes can be subjective, however my opinion is the best one so needledrop is therefore wrong.
It’s most definitely subjective, people like to be like oh this is bad. Like it’s factual or something, like no it’s an opinion. What’s bad to you may be good to someone else.
Seems valid
Bruh...... Same.
This video is great and I agree with basically every point but the video buffering in the background is driving me insane
I dont know why this is in my recommended , i love ajr
Honestly I love AJR. My mom doesn't let me hang out much and one time she let me go to my friend's house and that's all that he played in the background. It has a special place in my heart
I fucking love AJR, I can't understand how people don't like them but everyone's got their own opinions so eh
Alot of Ajr haters fall into a few categories
1. Trolls
2. People that believe that they listen to "superior" music and anything that isnt fully emotionally complex is bad.
3. People that follow whatever their idols say (anthony fantano fans)
Theres a difference between hating and not enjoying.
Exactly. 100% this.
I just don’t like them, not outright hate, but just if I hear them, I have the urge to just turn it off
@@wadejg_blaze0n213 then as long as you arent making fun of others or pretending that they have worse music taste then you, you're not a hater. So we're good.
I appreciate this vid. You’re being fair with biased. Got your own thoughts and opinions but don’t belittle the artist or the people who like them, and tr y to make them feel bad for liking it. Wholesome vid
Why is there a movie playing in the background???
Honestly idk man. I guess I was ahead of the curve on those tiktoks with subway surfers playing alongside the actual content.
My favorite part of the video was watching the superman show lag so hard in the background
the critics are not harsh enough on AJR. I genuinely think they are the worst band of all time, up there with MGK in lacking in any talent and horrible vocals and boring, repetitive structures.
I am a huge twenty one pilots fan, AJR sound nothing like Tyler and Josh. Yeah TØP only touch on that a handful of times like in slowtown and stressed out (about not wanting to grow up).
Even though they may not have ripped off their sound from other bands in a literal sense, they end up sounding derivative regardless. It’s like they’re the store brand soda of their sound.
I hate how your background is lagging
I recently discovered AJR and fell in LOVE with them and their music instantly. And the next thing UA-cam suggests me is a hate TikTok compilation towards them (glad that it is banned in my country). Like what's the point? I listened their song, it felt relatable to me, it's good to hear and I can vibe to it! I don't give damn if it's "too similar to 21 pilots", to hell with that. And tbh I think their style somehow makes me feel close to them, like they feel more like a school/collage friends than some big music artist. I just don't understand the unreasonable hate for them, it's ok to dislike but hate(?) it just doesn't make sense. Same with Imagine Dragons, LOVE them, don't care if others hate them for no reason. I too feel that people watch these music reviewers just to be "this guy with big music knowledge also says its a good/bad song". I'm glad that UA-cam recommended me your video. Defiantly subscribing.
This whole video comes across as insecurity in music taste lmao
they already have so many fans, it’s really funny that he just HAS to defend them from people that dare to have another opinion lol
Being young does not excuse immature songwriting. Hell, Slint were in high school when they wrote most of Spiderland, and that's one of the most mature rock albums ever written.
i never thought i was that judgmental until i heard AJR. but now that i know objectively bad music like that exists....
They sound like every pop band made in existence. Boring and blanc music that sounds like it was made for commercials. I feel like I can always hear them in an Apple ad, Samsung ad, Grubhub ad, basically every corporate ad.
9:44 same could be said of the entirety of this groups music catalogue.
Last comment, sorry. The reason I watch needledrop reviews is because he turns me onto albums and genres I typically wouldn’t listen to. A ten minute video explaining the appeal of an album is hugely useful.
I wanna refute the "it feels like I am emotionally an adult but still living out my youth right now" it very much feels like they are coming to a "youth problem" from an still young angel while being adults so emotionally they wanna tackle these bigger topics like growing up on "Please don't throw out my Legos" but from an age where it feels that they are too old, so to me it feels like they are too old to tackle problems like growing up even tho they are young, writing wise I feel like Billie Eilish "I am getting Older" does this way better because less than reducing the problem to throwing out Legos it tackles it directly as growing up and finding your place in the world and she like the youngest is not much older than 18
The answer to the thumbnail is no they are not bad, they’ve brought a whole new type of sound to indie pop and pop in general, anyone who says they’re bad are lunatics. But I respect their opinion.
"Anyone who says they're bad are lunatics." - "But I respect their opinion."
Oh boy the contradiction.
I don't know Anthony and 21 Pilots, but I love AJR! And on the issue of Legos, I am 59 and still have my teddy bear that I got when I was 6. The clips of Anthony you included were enough for me. Nice review.
answer to the title: NO. IT ISNT. this band is the best thing I've ever listened too, I love them more than I can even describe, in total people are stupid and have stupid opinions. you cant hate on others for liking a band, especially if said band makes them happier each day. this video is great, thank you for not disliking my idols
I admire your dedication to a band that you like, even though I, and probably many others, feel physically repulsed of their music. still good on you for liking them though :)
Oops, I've thought about names for my children without talking about it to my SO who doesn't exist yet, I'm an awful person now.. 😞
Just realized you only have 380 subs, like what, this video is amazing
As a hiphop guy, I can’t really enjoy their music. I used to, but I can’t really stand that upbeat happy bright stuff tbh.
8:58 with that you describe completely Ajr, they only make music "randomly", they don't give it a real meaning to a lot of stuff, dude I have 16 and even for me they say cringe things that make me want to live more to don't end up saying thing that are so stupid.
And did you know a lot of bands started being really young? And they still end up writing about problems with a really interesting point of view.
And I would like to mention that I was an Ajr fan, when I was 13, but I didn't listen that much to music in that time, as soon as I heard more stuff, I realize to all the flaws they got, and the world of music I was missing.
Also, I really think the needle drop is more a way to discover music, rather than a way to know what to like, or how to feel about something. I usually listen to an album he reviews to know exactly what I feel about it, not to agree or disagree with him, I use him more like a guy that recommends music, since even when there is a "terrible" album there is always a reason to listen to it, even if it is to experience the flaws from it, I think it is a way to sail threw the world of music, while create your own ideas and stablishing what you like and don't.
And I'm not saying you shouldn't like Ajr, I am just replying your arguments
I can understand why people like them, but I cannot stand the singing from the perspective of a child.
In my opinion, it's weird as hell, but to each their own
i remember disagreeing with that review too and id just listened to it shortly before watching and i really enjoyed it and i felt but couldnt explain how or why it felt unfair because i dont know that much about the stuff you all did. all in all i dont revisit the album but thats purely because i have much heavier interests, i just happen to also like light stuff, love midwestern emo guitar the vocals need work.
He is so ignorant tbh, especially his followers. I'm not saying that just because he hates ajr, I'm saying that because he criticizes, compares, and literally insults the artists.
AJR is my favorite bands. They are amazing
I definitely understand what you’re trying to say. Sure, Fantano can be a little harsh, but again, a lot of what he said was pretty spot on. For example, when he’s talking about them making music for children, this might be a little harsh, but with progression through life, comes progression of ideas, and from listening to their discography, for me, they have not showed much progression in themes and messages, for a lot of them go back to their childhoods. Also, when Fantano says a lot of their music is over-produced, I think really what he’s trying to say is sometimes, there songs can get a little overly complex and unnecessary, blowing the song out of proportion a bit. But, when reviewing another piece of music, for the future, I think you should give some concessions to Fantano’s opinion or whoever or whatever your are reviewing for that matter. It kinda makes you come across as too much of a fanboy and not enough as an actual critic. But otherwise, I do understand your opinions and why you believe them.
Ajr isn't very good in my eyes cause they just feel so fake. They've never really compelled me to feel what they feel.
Recently he said the she said that we said some **** that you wouldn't believe -AJR
I just want people to respect other people’s opinion. Why is that so hard. You like ajr. Good for you. You don’t like ajr. Good for you. The whole world needs more positivity. I just want people to respect other people’s opinion
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Theres a difference in disliking people then activly hating other people wjo do like them. Thats what most ajr haters do bash people who like their music.