(Hoping this is where you meant to post below) Building a 90s era project studio, 32 ADAT tracks, how many eq and compressor units should I have? Im printing as dry as possible and bouncing through effects two tracks at a time through dual compressors, dual parametrics, and/or dual graphics, which means I have to use up more and more tracks just for processing, and thats fewer tracks I can print original tracks on. Should i consider purchasing more units in order to bounce more tracks, like a drum mix, down to a single stereo bus tracks? Using a Mackie 3204 vlz pro and a full patch bay setup, so im down to add more outboard gear, just want to get the most for my money Thanks in advance
I am currently working on an allen and heath GS-R24 Console a friend of mine gave to me. And I love it. But i have a problem. He might want it back someday and they don't build it anymore. Nor is any other company building an affordable 24 channel console that has an interface built into it and is also capable of controlling your daw, hence making recalls easy. So do you know of any decice that can do all this things?
AMS Genesys Black is my dream console. Just because of that we visited Burnley England Factory for a test ride from San Francisco. Incredible factory and people who works there.
I've been setting my home studio up hybrid for a few months now and the difference is night and day. The first thing I had to get through my head was that cheap condenser mics SUCK, when it comes to vocals. The Warm Jr. condenser mic looks great for example but records harsh. A harshness that gets worse as you attempt to process. I ended up using an old AKG C2000 B I bought on Ebay for $75.00 a few years ago that sounds great. Secondly I bought a $75.00 Alesis compressor, a model I guess people love to hate. I turn that on running my mic through a Warm Audio WA 73 EQ/Pre and the sound is amazing. Outboard compression, even on a cheap compressor can warm up a vocal going in like nothing I ever found in the box. I have a Tascam Model 12 mixer coming which will be my control hub and a Boss VE8 effects processor which I'll use straight off the mic on the way to the preamp. Haven't heard all of this yet because it's still being shipped, but I can tell you computers can't keep up with this in the box processing. I have a very powerful processor and 4 to 5 Wave plug ins later you're system starts to crash. Sure you can bounce and use busses to limit the plug ins, but half of these plug ins are BS to begin with. I had the Slate Audio Mic Modeling system for example. Not Impressed! I guess you just have to shop around and experiment. My ultimate goal is to have a vocal chain that sounds great live in the headphones as well as on playback and future processing. Taking a microphone especially one of the cheap condenser microphones with the classic bump at 3k and going straight into a DAW is a disaster. You can mix all day and you're going to be mixing SHIT! Get a good recording up front and mixing in the box becomes a joy. Get a bad recording up front and good luck fixing it in the box. It's not going to happen!
You pronounced the german words very well. My name is Michael (the german version ;-) ) as well and this was the best interpretation of my name I ever heard from a native english speaker .. hehe
I worked on that Genesys at Zac's a few times, it's a very nice sounding console and Jim loved it. IMHO this full VST hybrid plugin is game changing for AMS Neve and will soon make the Genesys a very in demand console. Everyone now has some catching up to do!
I didn't have to watch the whole video to give this one a "thumbs up". You scatting the PLAP theme in the teaser was all I needed. Zip zap ba bee bop, bip bop uh ski skap.
There's this company mixanalog. Basically you can rent time and run your signals through real vintage hardware. They modded the hardware, so that you can control them via a web interface. Could you imagine, that those controllers, relais etc. will be build by whoever for a bunch of gear, so that people like us may mod their units? Great FAQ, you rock and rule!
We do a lot of hybrid mixing at our studio. Something about the tangible aspect of using the board after beautifying the tracks with a DAW just seems to give us the best results. To be fair though, it was years of watching classic albums and behind the musics seeing the producers playing with the faders that drive home our want to still use our console.
Hi Warren, I always love the show. My questions are: 1. What do you think of the likes of the Presonus Studio Live Series 3 DSP consoles that allow you to load plugins directly into the console and also participate with the DAW? 2. Do you see SSL (or even the console industry at large) moving in this direction? 3. In your opinion, do you see this concept as the future of consoles with built-in DSP with concurrent DAW integration?
Ill be in the market for a console a bit later on, I think the neve genesys with all the plug in control hit it over for me. This looks amazing ! PLus add on some Wes audio modules or Bettermaker, full analogue recall. Console for me. Im currently a SSL SIGMA user mixer
Brilliant concept! Down the road, If I get some tracks cut and could afford one, I'd take a really close at the Genesys. I'm curious if it works with Logic. I bypassed Pro Tools because of their whack update charges. That was a truly informative interview Warren, thanks. Dave Malekpour really knows his product and explains it in a very clear and easy to follow way.
The difference between mixing on a board and mixing ITB is like night and day. Even a cheap console gives much better separation between the elements of a mix.
Great episode ! A friend of mine has the only Never Genesys that made it to France, and absolutely loves it ! He also tells me it was pretty cost-effective in the end, and also is a major appeal for getting more high-level sessions. Looks like the Genesys Black iteration adds even more to DAW/analog integration. And yeah, as a mostly live engineer (who learned in the analog era), having real faders under the fingers makes a world of difference.
That was fascinating Warren....thank you. Looks like it has a lot of nuances for the hybrid approach. I use to a Bettermaker Pultec style EQ that had digital controls in the daw. It was cool. To have that control on all aspects with parallel compression on the bus, with 1073's and 1084 EQ...wow! Well done!
Thank you Warren! I have a question for FAQ Friday: do you time adjust the overheads so the first snare transient is alligned with the first transient of the top snare mic? Or do you keep the delay that is there due to distance and just make sure that the phase is correct? have a nice weekend!
FAQ Friday!!! I'm trying to decide on new monitors for my new home studio. The space is 20x12' with 10' ceilings. What's the best size monitors for room sizes? I was looking at the Yamaha HS8
Have to agree, loving it, where the tech is going. Currently hybrid mostly itb here, on a 42" multi touch for daw control. Look forward to your further checking out the Genesys and possibly a follow up😎👍
Warren; What do you do about Mastering? Do you consider that a finishing touch best done at a mastering facility set up to do such things? Appreciate your input! Thanks!
Hey Warren, I hope you're doing well. I would be really good if you made a video on how to mix orchestral parts or even orchestral songs. I'm having a hard time trying to mix some of my own songs, while I feel more comfortable mixing rock and metal. Cheers from Brazil! 🤘🏻
Great desk, would love to have one but it is a little out of the budget right now. Sooooo in the meantime I am using the PreSonus StudioLive 32S as my controller. Still learning what it can really do but having a blast and it makes mixing so much easier.
how is using a summing box any different than a console with regards to converter hits?? unless you are printing to tape its going to come back in to the box regardless.
The dream for me would be able to produce a song in Logic, then open it through Mainstage and have the board run the plugins and settings so the live sound is as close to the recording as possible.
Hi Warren, I have a pair of (unexpensive) 5" m-audio speakers, and they tend to confuse me on the low frequencies (when I check on other speakers there is usually too much low end) but I think they work pretty well on the mid /high . I want to point out that I'm mixing in a pretty big and open room and the speakers backs are not directly against a wall but there is some space between them. Would you recommend me a change of speakers (f.e. a pair of Calis) or complement the ones I have with some other speakers or a sub? Thank you very much, sorry for the long question and I hope I made myself understood, because English is not my first language
Summing is just as the converters from analog to digital and from digital to analog what you hear from the speakers so when those guys say summing is digital they are wrong
Hi there! I'm Sergio Loudet from La Plata, Buenos Aires Argentina... I'm now running a project recording and mixing a reggae band on the genesys black 8 mic pre, i guess its the only one in argentina if im not mistaken. What do you think is the most amazing feature of this console?
Hybrid all the way: BURL Mothership out on 32chs into a BURL B32 Vancouver summing mixer, through some key outboard pieces then back into the DAW via BURL B2 Bomber ADC for the win. *cue angelic choir*
Here's a question for ya. When you were first starting out, how did you know you were ready to work professionally as an engineer? I want to get started freelancing but I'm not sure if I'm not ready or just in my own head
Wow, this is like a dream come true! Instant recall of an 88R with a plug-in is going to make mixing so much easier. I'll be getting one (when I win the lottery. Haha) Thanks so much Warren and Dave for the interview.
QUESTION for the next FAQ Friday. In what types of situations would you change the impedance on a channel strip like the UK 1173. Which types of mics benefit from High or Low impedance?
It seems like FAQ is gettin more and more a promotion Video for pro producer equipment. 15 minutes about a console no normal working human beeing can afford and only 5 min to this console related questions...
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Building a 90s era project studio, 32 ADAT tracks, how many eq and compressor units should I have? Im printing as dry as possible and bouncing through effects two tracks at a time through dual compressors, dual parametrics, and/or dual graphics, which means I have to use up more and more tracks just for processing, and thats fewer tracks I can print original tracks on. Should i consider purchasing more units in order to bounce more tracks, like a drum mix, down to a single stereo bus tracks? Using a Mackie 3204 vlz pro and a full patch bay setup, so im down to add more outboard gear, just want to get the most for my money
Thanks in advance
can you talk about the role of produceur manager sound engienering, there limit in a music production choice?
I am currently working on an allen and heath GS-R24 Console a friend of mine gave to me. And I love it. But i have a problem. He might want it back someday and they don't build it anymore. Nor is any other company building an affordable 24 channel console that has an interface built into it and is also capable of controlling your daw, hence making recalls easy.
So do you know of any decice that can do all this things?
Hi Warren. How do you keep buses and buss mappings organized? Things can sometimes get out of hand and confusing.
@@dogbehaviour.hundetraining A camera?
AMS Genesys Black is my dream console. Just because of that we visited Burnley England Factory for a test ride from San Francisco. Incredible factory and people who works there.
I've been setting my home studio up hybrid for a few months now and the difference is night and day. The first thing I had to get through my head was that cheap condenser mics SUCK, when it comes to vocals. The Warm Jr. condenser mic looks great for example but records harsh. A harshness that gets worse as you attempt to process. I ended up using an old AKG C2000 B I bought on Ebay for $75.00 a few years ago that sounds great. Secondly I bought a $75.00 Alesis compressor, a model I guess people love to hate. I turn that on running my mic through a Warm Audio WA 73 EQ/Pre and the sound is amazing. Outboard compression, even on a cheap compressor can warm up a vocal going in like nothing I ever found in the box. I have a Tascam Model 12 mixer coming which will be my control hub and a Boss VE8 effects processor which I'll use straight off the mic on the way to the preamp. Haven't heard all of this yet because it's still being shipped, but I can tell you computers can't keep up with this in the box processing. I have a very powerful processor and 4 to 5 Wave plug ins later you're system starts to crash. Sure you can bounce and use busses to limit the plug ins, but half of these plug ins are BS to begin with. I had the Slate Audio Mic Modeling system for example. Not Impressed! I guess you just have to shop around and experiment. My ultimate goal is to have a vocal chain that sounds great live in the headphones as well as on playback and future processing. Taking a microphone especially one of the cheap condenser microphones with the classic bump at 3k and going straight into a DAW is a disaster. You can mix all day and you're going to be mixing SHIT! Get a good recording up front and mixing in the box becomes a joy. Get a bad recording up front and good luck fixing it in the box. It's not going to happen!
You pronounced the german words very well. My name is Michael (the german version ;-) ) as well and this was the best interpretation of my name I ever heard from a native english speaker .. hehe
Daily Drum Lesson you’re very kind my friend!
Hybrid mixing really is the best!
It is quite remarkable indeed!!
I worked on that Genesys at Zac's a few times, it's a very nice sounding console and Jim loved it. IMHO this full VST hybrid plugin is game changing for AMS Neve and will soon make the Genesys a very in demand console. Everyone now has some catching up to do!
I didn't have to watch the whole video to give this one a "thumbs up". You scatting the PLAP theme in the teaser was all I needed. Zip zap ba bee bop, bip bop uh ski skap.
Right?? I was laughing so hard
I haven't even watched it yet and that sounds amazing!
Haha thanks ever so much Adam!!
@@carterbrooks1405 Haha glad you enjoyed it!!
@@slavesforging5361 Haha thanks!! Hope you enjoyed it!!
There's this company mixanalog. Basically you can rent time and run your signals through real vintage hardware. They modded the hardware, so that you can control them via a web interface. Could you imagine, that those controllers, relais etc. will be build by whoever for a bunch of gear, so that people like us may mod their units?
Great FAQ, you rock and rule!
I visited AMS neve in Burnley a couple of years ago and they had the Genesys hooked up. A great hybrid console.
Fantastic stuff Paul!!
We do a lot of hybrid mixing at our studio. Something about the tangible aspect of using the board after beautifying the tracks with a DAW just seems to give us the best results.
To be fair though, it was years of watching classic albums and behind the musics seeing the producers playing with the faders that drive home our want to still use our console.
Hi Warren, I always love the show. My questions are: 1. What do you think of the likes of the Presonus Studio Live Series 3 DSP consoles that allow you to load plugins directly into the console and also participate with the DAW? 2. Do you see SSL (or even the console industry at large) moving in this direction? 3. In your opinion, do you see this concept as the future of consoles with built-in DSP with concurrent DAW integration?
If I had 75 G's I would purchase a Genesys Black... but I do not. So I just recently bought a Neve 1073N Pre/EQ and I am tracking like a pro.
Great stuff Michael! Congrats on the 1073!!
What a dream console! Good to see. $70,000 is pretty reasonable for that power.
Ill be in the market for a console a bit later on, I think the neve genesys with all the plug in control hit it over for me. This looks amazing ! PLus add on some Wes audio modules or Bettermaker, full analogue recall. Console for me. Im currently a SSL SIGMA user mixer
Brilliant concept! Down the road, If I get some tracks cut and could afford one, I'd take a really close at the Genesys. I'm curious if it works with Logic. I bypassed Pro Tools because of their whack update charges. That was a truly informative interview Warren, thanks. Dave Malekpour really knows his product and explains it in a very clear and easy to follow way.
That's a great question! I'm not sure if it works with Logic too? My guess is yes, but I could be wrong!
Well I know now the first thing I'm buying if I win the lottery!
Tim Jones - Saddlebrook Music haha yes indeed!!
Oh my! What a wonderful world Sir Rupert Neve has given us.
Yes, agreed 100%!!
Hi Warren, it could be very interesting listening you to talk a bit about your books in the background!
Marvellous idea! Thanks very much!!
The difference between mixing on a board and mixing ITB is like night and day. Even a cheap console gives much better separation between the elements of a mix.
Dave is a great guy. I worked at PAD 20 years ago. Great video I would love that console. Is it time to trad in that SSL?
Great episode ! A friend of mine has the only Never Genesys that made it to France, and absolutely loves it ! He also tells me it was pretty cost-effective in the end, and also is a major appeal for getting more high-level sessions.
Looks like the Genesys Black iteration adds even more to DAW/analog integration.
And yeah, as a mostly live engineer (who learned in the analog era), having real faders under the fingers makes a world of difference.
I have coveted this desk since it came out, it shall be mine, oh yes...
This is the way forward....interestingly a new Neve console in 1974 was $70,000!
Wow! Yes, you could buy my parents house for that and have change left over in 1974!!
@@slawaschwed absolutely!
Speaking of hybrid, what do you think are the absolute best converters (both ways)? Thanks!
Many of the top mixers use Burl converters. They are considered by many the best of the best if you have the budget.
Most excellent! I'll have two! love the concept!
Me too! Thanks Steve!
I'm pretty sure they had that board on the starship Enterprise! Do you think producers will become the first cybernetic organisms?
The Feel Button haha maybe my friend!!
I would love that. Wow. Super nice.
Nice video Warren! I couldn't help noticing Glenn standing in the background in the NAMM clip, i hope he wasn't stalking you. Haha! Just kidding!
What?? Glenn was there?? Hahah yes, he must be shadowing us! Haha
That was fascinating Warren....thank you. Looks like it has a lot of nuances for the hybrid approach. I use to a Bettermaker Pultec style EQ that had digital controls in the daw. It was cool. To have that control on all aspects with parallel compression on the bus, with 1073's and 1084 EQ...wow! Well done!
Thank you Warren! I have a question for FAQ Friday: do you time adjust the overheads so the first snare transient is alligned with the first transient of the top snare mic? Or do you keep the delay that is there due to distance and just make sure that the phase is correct?
have a nice weekend!
nice board...
Yes it is!!
FAQ Friday!!! I'm trying to decide on new monitors for my new home studio. The space is 20x12' with 10' ceilings. What's the best size monitors for room sizes? I was looking at the Yamaha HS8
Have to agree, loving it, where the tech is going. Currently hybrid mostly itb here, on a 42" multi touch for daw control. Look forward to your further checking out the Genesys and possibly a follow up😎👍
Warren; What do you do about Mastering? Do you consider that a finishing touch best done at a mastering facility set up to do such things? Appreciate your input! Thanks!
Hey Warren, I hope you're doing well. I would be really good if you made a video on how to mix orchestral parts or even orchestral songs. I'm having a hard time trying to mix some of my own songs, while I feel more comfortable mixing rock and metal. Cheers from Brazil! 🤘🏻
I'm starting to move my home studio from consumer-grade rack gear to professional gear. What would be the first professional piece you would suggest?
Great desk, would love to have one but it is a little out of the budget right now. Sooooo in the meantime I am using the PreSonus StudioLive 32S as my controller. Still learning what it can really do but having a blast and it makes mixing so much easier.
You singing the intro made my day. 😂 Thanks for another great episode!
Haha thanks ever so much my friend!!
Love that hybrid console! Just perfect!
Thanks Warren!
Thanks ever so much!!
Are the channel eq's/dynamics digitally controlled analog, or is it just a recall screen for manual recall?
Hybrid mixing and a set of NS 10s on the meter bridge. What more could I ask for!
how is using a summing box any different than a console with regards to converter hits?? unless you are printing to tape its going to come back in to the box regardless.
Warren, you still have your SSL....I've been very tempted.
The dream for me would be able to produce a song in Logic, then open it through Mainstage and have the board run the plugins and settings so the live sound is as close to the recording as possible.
Hey! Have you tried Endless Audio’s CLASP system? If so, what are your thoughts on it?
Hi Warren,
I have a pair of (unexpensive) 5" m-audio speakers, and they tend to confuse me on the low frequencies (when I check on other speakers there is usually too much low end) but I think they work pretty well on the mid /high .
I want to point out that I'm mixing in a pretty big and open room and the speakers backs are not directly against a wall but there is some space between them.
Would you recommend me a change of speakers (f.e. a pair of Calis) or complement the ones I have with some other speakers or a sub?
Thank you very much, sorry for the long question and I hope I made myself understood, because English is not my first language
i just realised the pasive radiators on the focals are blocked by the genelecs and the Kali speakers.
Summing is just as the converters from analog to digital and from digital to analog what you hear from the speakers so when those guys say summing is digital they are wrong
Hi there! I'm Sergio Loudet from La Plata, Buenos Aires Argentina... I'm now running a project recording and mixing a reggae band on the genesys black 8 mic pre, i guess its the only one in argentina if im not mistaken. What do you think is the most amazing feature of this console?
Since you’re such a huge Queen fan, as am I. I would love to know your thoughts on the movie? Hope this finds you well and Godspeed
JW
Hybrid all the way: BURL Mothership out on 32chs into a BURL B32 Vancouver summing mixer, through some key outboard pieces then back into the DAW via BURL B2 Bomber ADC for the win.
*cue angelic choir*
Digitally controlled analog is where it's at ..A lot of the latest Korg analog synths are as the same.
Every house needs that console just like an tv
Another great video!
The intro alone earned a thumbs up. LOL
Haha thanks ever so much!
145 thumbs up, and 2 haters who are neither marvelous OR Nammtastic.
OR can't afford a Neve Console.
Terry Miller haha it’s ok my friend! UA-cam says they are mainly other channels! Haha it’s quite ok! Glad to be able to giveaway free information!
TheSlickoify haha maybe! It’s not cheap, but rather good indeed!
they're from SSL - jealous the AWS is massively inferior now
I started on analogue desks and today running a DAW I catch my self reaching for a desk that isn't there. For me, Hybrid would be the way to go.
Warren, I would like to see you track and mix on this board. I will buy it if I have the money!
Electricity savings alone might pay the cost of the Genesis. :-)
Haha yes, indeed!!
Here's a question for ya. When you were first starting out, how did you know you were ready to work professionally as an engineer? I want to get started freelancing but I'm not sure if I'm not ready or just in my own head
Get in front of that console and test out the knobs first and reconsider if its worth how much they are asking.
Wow, this is like a dream come true! Instant recall of an 88R with a plug-in is going to make mixing so much easier. I'll be getting one (when I win the lottery. Haha) Thanks so much Warren and Dave for the interview.
Wow Huey thanks 4 that all I can say is wow i want it i cant afford it but wow absolutely marvelous man exciting !!
If I ever win the lottery I would get this.
Dang and you just bought the audient at Harmony
QUESTION for the next FAQ Friday. In what types of situations would you change the impedance on a channel strip like the UK 1173. Which types of mics benefit from High or Low impedance?
Great desk but gear like this is a pipe dream for most of us unfortunately.
I understand! I love this kind of technology!
@@Producelikeapro and it's great you show it to us! Dream console
green screen behind you?:-)
remember...genesys is skynet...hehe if i only could afford a Neve console :)
If I had $70.000 to spend...Mmm I'd buy a NEVE BLACK.... woo. ..hoo
Wow... Neve`s got what Presonus`s got three years ago.... Supriiiise.... That shows again how Brandmarked this Industry is
Does presonus also have digitally controlled analogue eq's & compressors? just wondering...
Oh come on, how is hybrid mixing not going back and forth through a-d d-a like summing?
Wanna know about ITB only, not interested in Hybrid...cause it is expensive
Dont get this channel you say its new producers and engineers but show us Ams neve console
this video made me buy a lottery ticket
omfg this is so cool , and i am so poor :D
Fantastic looking as well as functional console. At least I know what I’ll be spending my lottery win on when the lottery gods smile upon me!
First to like
Well done. Very original comment!
will more more is too cool can we win one LOL 70.000
It seems like FAQ is gettin more and more a promotion Video for pro producer equipment. 15 minutes about a console no normal working human beeing can afford and only 5 min to this console related questions...