Seth Thomas chime clock restoration.
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- The restoration of a Seth Thomas chime clock with a #124 movement. #horology
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Astounding! What a fabulous chronicle of a wonderful and difficult movement.
Definitely THE most useful Seth Thomas repair video out there. It is like sitting beside you learning as an apprentice. Please make a video for the 8 day Banjo Clock if an opportunity presents itself. Thank you, again!!
Thanks. I restored a banjo clock right after restoring this clock. I'll make a video with the next banjo clock I have for restoration,
What happiness it was in childhood to find a broken alarm clock and pick out all the gears from it!
This was a thorough explanation of chiming clock works. I haven't messed with total teardown of Westclock pocket watch or spring-wound clock since US History Class in 1955. Challenge was to get it back together and running in the 50-minute period. This Christmas, I fell heir to a Ridgeway Grandfather style ca. 1967 ?? which was but quit working a year ago before it was moved.. I am tempted to try cleaning it. John
Very nice Seth Thomas clock service
Great great work , academician .
Thank you for this video .
Thank you so much for this video... Im making a blueprint of a clock, and this really helped. Thank you!
You're welcome!
thank you for sharing so much info on these amazing clocks...
When you know your trade
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In my country South Africa you just find a bunch off armholes
Nice to watch you 😀
Excellent job, patience 👏 thank you for the demo
hi sir, ty for teaching us this incredible work of you, please take this comment with respect to you, i think would be great to add more cameras to your vids and at least one of them with a macro and light. cheers and ty again!
Noted. I'm in the market to get a mirrorless camera to be able to up the video quality.
@@DaltonClockRepair great!! ty again for your work master!! kind regards!
Thank you
Love to see a Cuckoo Clock repair video.
Ok. I'll post something in the near future. Stay tuned.
Nice I got seth Thomas clocks 1 is a legacy 3w with a triple chime in it and other is electric school clock plug in
Mark. Great video. Everything demonstrated perfectly. I want to know how you got that clock so clean and shiny. What solution you used in your ultra sonic cleaner. I’ve used several different solutions with not as good of results as yours. Currently using 1:1 mixture of water and ammonia thanks
I've been using an off the shelf ammoniated water based solution (Astro Clean) which shines the best but will eat the lacquer of more modern movements so it needs to be used with care. I recently switched to a non - ammoniated water based solution - less stinky but it doesn't shine up the parts as well.
Please teach me! I have a 124 that has been abused by 2 "repairmen" and I'm learning how to fix it myself. It belonged to my father-in-law so it just has a ton of sentimental value.
Great work!!!
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Thank you for the Advice,I tried to do it from the front of the clock.with Key. with no luck. so is it hard to remove the unit. You sure make it look easy.
Thank you for your feedback.
This was an interesting episode especially when you build it up from the base. It reminded me of the episode of Star Trek when Spock needed the clock tools. What are the little screws on the back of the hammers for? You made this look very easy but when I see all those pieces, it's very intimidating - the wheels all look the same. I'm looking for a certain Japanese wall clock - Takano. It had vertical grooves going down the front and bead work and a tan face. I can't find another one like the one I bid on ebay and lost.
Hah! I'm a trekikie also. That episode your referencing is called "The city on the Edge of Forever" and won awards but I digress. The screws are for securing the hammers. Thanks for the interesting comment.
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Thanking you sir iam watching this mechanisam clock very nice, please show me how to clean dirty movement clock the top and bottam plate and wheel shinning what solution you are ussing
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Thank you so much!!!
fantastic......thx!!!!!!!
Muito bom , saludos desde Brazil , Fabio Di Bettoni.
Ha! I mark my wheels the same way. I'm working on one while watching this, but my movement goes in a squashed tombstone looking case. I like to lacquer the plates and wheels on the clocks I work on except French clocks and English bell strike movements.
I spent the weekend in frustration trying to repair a 124 movement. I hadn't worked on one in over a year and couldn't get the 1/4 chime to work properly. I was about to give up when I remembered that another customer left one for me to repair also. I pulled that movement to study, and realized that the chime lifting lever going from the star cam on the minute hand shaft, was fussed onto the arbor where it pivots. Even a good soak in the ultrasonic was not enough to free it and it was acting as if the lifting lever and the arbor were one piece. Steven Conover dedicated a whole chapter in his book "Chime Clock Repair" to repairing the 124 movement, but he didn't mention this possible issue. Someone long ago must have oiled that spot and it gummed up solid over the ages.
Enjoyed watching!
Videoing suggestion? There were occations when really hard to hear your comments & instruction. Are you using one of those mics that public speakers use? It's a little boom mic that comes around by the cheak & close to the lips so one is on-mic; no matter which direction they turn their head. Secondly, sometimes hard to see what you are doing through your hands or fingers. Can the camera be mounted either slightly above your head or a little to the right (right handed?)? If your eyes can see what you are doing, then so can we. That's why we are wanting to watch, listen & learn from your experience. (How do those food - demo shows place their several cameras?) I respectfully appreciate your labors! Very time consuming I'm sure.
Thank you!
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Makes sure you got the escape wheel right way around. Picks up pallet fork. show prop way. Toss' fork in box of parts...
Correct! It is possible to put the escape wheel in backwards as the pinion will still line up with the wheel next to it. Use the location of the pallets as your guide. Thanks for the comment.
Some 113 Thomas have double clicks. How do you know which models have the double click feature? What was the criteria on them? Using double clicks and sometimes not using them.
It's because some put in wall clocks and others on mantle?
Those movements have much stronger springs hence the double clicks and the gear reduction winding system. I've worked on quite a few and releasing both clicks at once can be a pain.
Hi Mark my 3 great grandfather was Thomas Farnham of Bridport who was a celebrated clock and watchmaker in Victorian England. His son James Farnham my 2 great grandfather succeeded him and carried on the business for at least another 20 years. Have you ever come across any of their work I wonder?
What a great family history to have. I don't recall working on any clocks with that name but I have worked on a lot of clocks over the years.
i just bought a clock there saying it a Linden Westminster Chime Mantle/Wall Windup Pendulum Clock. The pendulum problem. The spring has been broken . 341-020 35cm . i was thinking buying a new movement to fix it . i didnt get the clock .it on it way . will this clock chime on the hr or 30 min and hr . or 1/4 chime . some say it only chime hr . and some say 1/4 hr
those support legs are uber cool though...
how the hell do you keep track of all this?? so amazing...I have an old seth thomas i wish I could fix but am terrified to take apart...love the videos, may try but so scared to take it all apart...
I've done quite a few of these movements. You can always take numerous pictures before disassembly to refer back to during assembly.
Good video. I have a question. I'm interesting in your test stand. Is that something purchased or something you made and if you made it do you have instructions for creating the stand particularly the extension and mounting assembly. Thanks.
That stand was purchased a while ago. Something similar should be available from clock parts suppliers.
It's a Seth Thomas clock/not his build
Great video! My experience in reassembling time and strike movements with a count wheel is that when you are putting the plates back together you have to be very careful on the strike side that the pin on the warning wheel is close to the lock point and that the maintenance lever bottoms out in one of the gullies of the maintenance cam. With this clock it looks to me from your video that you don't have those issues with the ST 124 at the stage where you are putting the plates together - you just have to get all the pivots in the right holes, and all of the adjustments come later after the plates are back together. Is that right?
Where’d you get that little oiler? I love it! What’s the link?
Merrit’s Antiques. Stock # P1459
do you have a video on how you unwound the springs and removed them and put back together ? Have 2 clocks with the same movement
Yes. Check out the French Crystal Regular video.
@@DaltonClockRepair Another great video but that doesn't help on how to remove and put back the springs when the barrel is riveted to the plate
I need the spring that holds middle arbor in place for a Hamilton headmaster wall clock in pennsville NJ?Any place to go?
Why does no one mentioned timing the strike and chime?it must be like a trade secret something you'll just have to figure out.I'm sure you can't just throw those wheels in and time it after assembly, can you?
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Mark, I noticed about 5 minutes into the video when you are putting all of the arbors into the holes in the back plate that you also put in two lever arbors on the chime side. It looks to me like you put the chime lifting lever (labelled (18) in Conover's diagrams) on loosely so that it will turn freely on the arbor. Is that right - is the chime lifting lever supposed to turn freely on its arbor, or is it supposed to be staked firmly onto the arbor? Thanks for any help - I'm putting together a ST 124 myself, or trying to.
Loosely. That lever pivots on the arbor.
@@DaltonClockRepair Thank you, Mark. That is helpful.
Where did you get your assembly post?
Merritt’s Antiques
I won a bid on a Seth Thomas Brookfield banjo clock. When I recd it, besides needing a good cleaning, I found that I was unable to wind the spring for the chime. The key just turns and turns and turns. Is that a symptom of it being broken or is it something else? The clock goes into warning on the hour and half hour and sounds like it is trying to chime on the hour and half hour. The spring is unwound inside. Any suggestions or advice?
I figured it out. Chime spring was broken. Removed it and it was pretty cheap. Purchased a new spring and gave clock a good cleaning and oiling...works great!
What kind of grease are you using on the pin barrel that lifts the hammers?
I use a grease that is sometimes marketed for mainsprings. I wouldn't use it for mainsprings though as I feel it's too heavy for that purpose.
How do I release the clock spring tension? 8 day chimes work,but the clock was over wound. has three key winds thanks
You would use something called a bench key. You release the click and very CAREFULLY let the power down by gripping the bench key and letting it turn . It's the tool I used to wind the movement at 32.33
How do you remember where everything goes ??
I've overhauled a lot of these movements. It becomes second nature after a while.
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If a bushing has been worn out of round is it able to be replaced?
Yes, you need know-how, broaches, and replacement bushes, or turn new ones up yourself if you have a lathe.
Check out the Ansonia clock restoration video. I show a little of the rebushing process in that video.
What does no one mentioned timing the strike and shine?it must be like a trade secret something you'll just have to figure out.I'm sure you can't just throw those wheels in and time it after assembly, can you?
The strike and chime wheels must be in place correctly to enable warning and stop to be in sequence. It takes a bit of know-how.
Look up dperry428 videos. He explains how to do it in detail on a Hermle movement.
@@robertbaldwin4261 yes thank you. He's the only guy I found that went into that detail. And it's pretty simple, you assemble in the locked position.
The wheels do have to be indexed in the strike and chime train. I apologize if I didn't cover that thoroughly enough.
How to remove the bends in the wheels?
That can be tricky. You can use a clockmakers lathe and carefully bend back with smooth jawed pliers while spinning it manually to try to true it up. If the bend isn't too severe you might just want to leave it alone if it doesn't effect operation.
Just broke my bosses clock and he sent me this video. How fucked am I
I work on pocket watches, and I cringe when you throw the wheels around. I guess it really doesn't hurt.
Nope. Those wheels are large and sturdy.
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How much for you to rebuild one just like that ???
I charge around $300.00 to overhaul these types of clocks.
I have an old Seth Thomas mantle clock, I purchased at an estate auction, Was wondering if you could tell me the value of it?
Open the back and look for the number to see what kind it is
I took me hours to put the damn plate on to fix the wheels...
They want $350 to do a restore,how do I remove the hands? I want to pull out the unit and soak it in cleaning solution.
Id take one plate off then clean one gear at a time til your all done . or thats how i would consider doing it
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