Jeremy Kyle clashes with union boss as more train strikes loom
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2022
- The biggest rail workers’ union has announced two further strikes this summer in the worsening dispute over jobs, pay and conditions.
Members of the Rail, Maritime and Transport union (RMT) at Network Rail and 14 train operators will walk out on August 18 and 20.
The union previously announced a strike for July 27, the day before the Commonwealth Games opens in Birmingham.
RMT general secretary Mick Lynch said: “The rail industry and the Government need to understand that this dispute will not simply vanish.
“They need to get serious about providing an offer on pay which helps deal with the cost-of-living crisis, job security for our members and provides good conditions at work.
“Recent proposals from Network Rail fell well short on pay and on safety around maintenance work.
“And the train operating companies have not even made us a pay offer in recent negotiations.
“Now Grant Shapps (Transport Secretary) has abandoned his forlorn hopes for the job of prime minister, he can now get back to his day job and help sort this mess out.
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How much should train drivers earn?
35k absolute tops
Less than they get now!
@@techtipsuk And when did you become the wage person for everybody? an absolute joke. some jobs get paid a lot and some that aren't, but I think the lower wages should be more but I'm not going to start shouting from the rooftops about someone earning less. this country is a joke at the moment when people start to dictate on an SM platform about someone getting paid too much 🙃
The Japanese drivers get 21k a year. And their “productivity” would boggle the mind of this slap head.
I think they should get a pay cut for their trouble.
Coming from the guy who got paid six figures to present paternity tests for heroin addicts.
Div!
Sitting there parroting whatever he's told to say, after he made his name exploiting the poorest people in the country for laughs on daytime TV, blokes a mouth piece trying to play as a journalist.
He got a job there to try and attract the people who watched his poverty porn to Murdoch's news 😝
Not as bad as it sounds as someone who does sweet fa.
Pity people aren't paid their worth... and jeremy you'd be using food banks
should go to a food bank see real people try pay bills and payment of U.C
i agree
Kylie is the most obnoxious presenter on radio.....
Sixty grand to drive a train is a joke, should be on 35k tops.
Why?
@@cowboy8968 why should it be 60k? Itll soon be zero when they automate it
@@utrapzab if you think it’s easy and want 60k, become a train driver then.. stop crying
@@utrapzab I think you are wrong due to the fact that a train driver can have 1,200 on a train at any one time and they are responsible for everyone, train breaks down in the middle of nowhere they are responsible on there own to evacuate 1,200 and be responsible for there safety. Can you tell me another job that has to do this on there own? I HOPE THEY GET THERE PAY!!!
@@cowboy8968 why not?
Jeremy Kyle asks a question, gets a reasonable answer, interrupts and asks a different question and says ‘My friend’ a lot. Care Workers should be paid more, not real Workers less…..And he pitches himself as a man of the people. Every worker should want pay to increase - even overpaid, Murdoch funded radio hosts.
Here, here. His entire scummy career has been off the exploitation of poor and working class people. Absolute pond life.
Yes but then there is using means to earn more money that harms others or prevents them from having the opportunity to earn their money too.
jeremy kyle at golf club menbership must cost over £2000/£ 4000 year plus just horse race eg royal ascot must top and tails coat
Train driver and anyone who works on network rail are ridiculously overpaid. Wonder why trains are so expensive?
What a horrible man Kyle is.
Cry more
For a 450k house practically the average in London you need an 85-90k wage to get the mortgage, so its not that train drivers wages are high it's that nurses and teacher's and so on are incredibly low.
If trains ran 24 hours a day with fully staffed trains & stations, then everyone working on the involved should get a pay rise, not just the drivers.
Train drivers just sit on there arse and twiddle a few instruments
Funny jeremy avoided the split shift lates onto earlies turn comment.
How about you go and work a shift with one of these guys and see how it is
I wish you had come on a live stock farm with me 10 years ago looking after 2000 fattening pigs in the middle of the summer working 7 days a week. Normal hrs 5 in the morning until 3.30 . That was a good day without 3 o'clock starts early morning loading, and late evenings helping with the harvest.
How much do you get paid, Kyle, either for that disgraceful morning show in which a person died, or to just rant at everyone else who are working - which from that same show you told people to do - from a studio? Well, Kyle? How much?
I work 12 hours a day ten pounds an hour,, you people make me laugh
There are less trains, the ticket price has increased, and trains are crowded and people have to stand for long journeys I do not support these drivers. I have recently retired after more than 45 yrs as a registered nurse, I would have love to have half of that salary
If he is so concerned about everyone else's wages in the country why is it that when they get what they want they disappear? Also, as someone who travelled on the trains during the heatwave, I failed to see the modernisation.
Yeah I mean how can you work 5 hours 1 day 9 hours and it's like that in retail stores like malls mall they hire all part time employees they only let them work 5 hour shifts and then make them take a hour lunch or 30 minute lunch
Say JEREMY with all his MILLIONS for reading a bit of paper !!😐
Wages are so low for care workers and for people in general because they keep flooding the labour market with imported workers. Yet you will never see union bosses bring that up.
True - that is why the airports/travel industry can't fill the positions 👏
Back to that old chestnut
@@calicokittenproductions591 it's very true. The Bank of England even highlighted it in a report..
Supply and demand for you. Too many employees to compete amongst so it is who is willing to work for least that gets the job. Properly controlled migration will deal with that.
@@calicokittenproductions591 That's because it's true and is major issue. And any group that claims to represent the working class should be bringing it up as well.
They don’t deserve double the salary of a nurse
Surely they should raise nurses wages then?
They are on more than double a nurses wage already by £10 grand. And double a Clinical Team Leader band 7.
Does a share trader deserve 20x the salary of a nurse plus bonuses?
@@nbob6186 no
@@the-sleepy-bear Well they do and always will while we live in a captitalist system.
The issue isn't that train drivers have unionised and negotiated their salaries better than nurses, it's capitalism.
Paid too much!!!
Time and time again we hear that argument, but let me ask you this, and just put yourself in a Train Drivers shoes for one moment.
Imagine what's it like when you get an emergency call, as someone had collapsed on your tarin and you cannot do anything to save them.
Imagine what's it like when you come around a corner, at 90 mph, and a tree is down in front of you, and a collision cannot be avoided.
Imagine what's it like when kids run across the tracks in front of you, and you prey they get out of the way in time.
Finally, and by far the worse, Imagine what's it like when someone jumps in front of your train, and looks you directly in the eye as you hit them.
It is not only the Drivers that suffer when these incidents happen, our families have to deal with the fallout also.
Trying to free yourself from the guilt of someone killing themself in front of your train is easier said than done.
Then, you may have to attend an inquest and go through it all again.
There is a saying on the Railway, and that is , you earn your money when it goes wrong. How true that is.
TRAIN NEW DRIVERS WHO WOULD LOVE TO EARN THAT MONEY SITTING ON THEIR ARSES DRIVING A TRAIN ON THAT WAGE AND SACK THE OTHER LOT
Japanese train divers only get £1,800 a month and they are always on time. You’re absolute crooks getting 60k a year. You need dragging out that train and thrown in the job centre.
Stop crying
Late running trains are nothing to do with drivers.
Maybe the cost of living in Japan means that £1800 a month is a really good salary?
@@Mekismo given it's global I very much doubt it.
Yes but if you enjoy being pushed onto trains..
I don't think, I know that these strikes are completley wrong and anyone who thinks otherwise are truly useless.
dont like kyle but 59 grand wheres the the application form to be a train driver
And here I am earning 25k per year to be an IT engineer fixing all sort of IT issues from desktop to servers to av equipment
Change job
@@kenrehill8775 To what? You got 1 and looking for someone? I'm 29 and on 31k with no savings and no assets. Stuck in the renting cycle. I'd happily change jobs for 10k a year more so i could maybe buy a place of my own but its not really that simple is it?
What's your wage Jeremy
Irrelevant question
@@patriotunion7211 Working class are also allowed a decent wage Bet Mr Kyle gets well looked after for talking rubbish What's his actual contribution? A news reader Almost important
Jeremy deserves every penny he gets.
The union grubs deserve a P45.
@@guyverjay1289 Wrong!
@@jonathanhpantsil9841 yea £ 124,000 a year for spouting crap Absolutely disgusting He produces nothing
Came here just to say, I have to watch or listen to something else when Jeremy is on. God knows why he's on this channel
cus he has a brain obvs
Can't bring Jeremys wage into the debate surely cos he's self employed.
like ask what jeremy what he pay vs some one low pay wage to cover any bills / gig economy zero hours contract
There pay should be dependant on the time and exspence of there training for example how long does it take to train a surgeon I think they are about the same pay.
Same with a recruitment consultant. The more work you put in, the more experienced you become and the more money you earn as a base salary and commission..
A coach driver can only drive 9-10hrs but can actually work 14hrs a day for nothing like 60K. Scandalous when the dangers on the roads are far higher, far more stressful, and involve work before and after driving even happens. This farcical train system is why we are all supposed to drop our own cars??? That's a laugh, they would have us by the throats.
Stop falling into the trap... united we stand divided we fall. Instead of whinging say YES in today's world that's a living wage, not a make do, mend and pray for the best.
@@calicokittenproductions591 Actually I personally say, scrap all unions, and replace them with one independent body, which cares for all workers, in both private and public sector, and brings about a little equality. That's a word the left suddenly forgets when it's them standing to lose out.
Greed greed a bloody joke
Oh dear, the drivers have to actually work regular hours 😂
If you call getting up at 3 in the morning to drive a train safely with upto a 1000 passengers regular hours then you are stupid!
Regular Hours, are you having a laugh?
This week i was up at 02:00 to start at 03:00. Next week i am on night shift starting at 23:00, week after back on early turn.
I suggest you try it for a few months and see the toll it takes on you body clock.
@@OldFloatingSeaman how many hrs do you do?
@@garyspruce7736 Depends where you are in the Roster Cycle.
I have just finished my 7 Day run and all my jobs were over 9:15. Late running increases that, which often happens due to delays etc.
I have clocked up in excess of 65 hours.
The master roster is based on a 35 hr week with Sundays outside of the working week, but you can be rostered up to two hours overtime, any given day.
All that said and done, I don’t regret giving up my old job, with every weekend off, as there is no other job like the Railway.
@@OldFloatingSeaman so if you do over 35 hrs is that then extra overtime or time owed or you get nothing. I don't miss the days of going into London everyday and being delayed at least once a week.
The train driver only goes forward and backwards.
Am I wrong?
Hahahaha 😆
Go and read the RSSB rulebook and see if it's as simple as that! 🤦♂️
@@Mekismo I absolutely agree with you Sir 👍
@@Mekismoif it runs more than 2 paragraphs I'd be surprised.
@@voodoochile333 well without looking you won't know, instead of making brainless assumptions.
If you think 2 paragraphs covers the job role then you are sorely mistaken, being responsible for over 1000 people on a 17 tonne piece of machinery travelling at 100mph, it's not a job for stupid or careless people.
I'm guessing you probably failed at some point getting the job and now resent it, bless ya!
Tell me again how much Kyle gets paid?
MPs are paid £90 grand a year for 'just' shouting at each other in an old building.
Ministers are paid £150K a year for 'just' raising taxes.
Weoponising the poverty wage, divide and conquer, Murdoch smirks
£59,000 is more than double the average wage, let alone the poverty wage.
How much should a news reader be on? How much should a CEO be on?
What happened to the high wage economy?
Why are you not complaining about the high wages in other industries ?
Jeremy Kyle being paid probably half a million a year to say what his producer tells him to, how can he ever think he can criticise anyone asking for more money.
He literally made his entire career exploiting the poorest people in the country for laughs.
When Jeremy Kyle says he refuses to turn up for work, it doesn't destroy half the country's work day. Now do footballers. Do they exploit poor people for laughs? Ronaldo gets half a million A WEEK!!!
@@stevenmacdonald9619 people moaning about other people having the audacity to fight for decent pay and conditions, whilst not doing the same for themselves...
No wonder theres a race to the bottom, be back to the workhouses in a few years
wtf
I've had this before. Its disgusting what you're on, im doing the same job. My reply - well you can apply where i work but of course you'll take a lower wage if you get the job because it would be 'disgusting' otherwise. I don't think so. What's disgusting isn't that some people get what is perceived as a good wage but that they themselves are paid such a pittance! Bringing someone else's wages down isn't going to help you in the slightest. So, in their own stupidity, their appallingly low wage is ok, as long as everyone else is on the same.
Jeremy Kyle is typical of the television presenters and journalists , they ask questions and never listen to the answer . Presumably JK is on a six figure salary. Most of these tv people have the very difficult task of reading an auto cue
wtf u cannot be serious
I want to know how they got this wage to start with
the nurses should strike too! Solidarity is the word
To get a pay rise I had to retrain in my job. Not get one IN the job
I agree driverless are the future. The quicker the better in my book. With regards to longer day shifts, they may be longer but I bet they're just doing a 4-day week.
It May come in the next 60 years, the UK is about 50-60 years behind most countries that run good railways, why? Because those countries don't take any money out of the system to pay share holders.
Will never happen. If the train fails in the middle of nowhere, who is going to be there to ensure the passengers don't start forcing the doors open and jumping onto live running train lines.
What happens if someone jumps infront of the automatic train, does the train know to stop and contact the signaller, emergency services etc? I doubt it
@@regoftherovers7175 that's way too excessive.
Let's have pilotless planes too
@@AGENT-mb9ooThey do exist to a limited extent, but as remotely piloted drones. Someone still has to fly the plane, as the plane is not that intelligent to fly itself.
What is that very silly man Jeremy Kyles' salary, I wonder.
Not 10s more than a nurse. It's double a band 6 nurse. And nurses start at band 5. A band 6 is a team leader.
It’s Irrelevant what they get they having a pay rise in three years so every year ther getting a pay cut simple every working person in this country should have a pay rise with inflation every year
I wouldn't want to have the responsibility train drivers have .
Let robots do it
Agree, so get rid of the humans and bring in the automation ASAP!
58,000 not enough for that responsibility then?
100 years robots might drive trains, until then I hope they get a pay rise.
@@regoftherovers7175 Why? Do you not think they're earning enough? Pure greed
Jeremy Kyle should be paid 50p a year.
I want more 😭
Great they have a supporting union, care workers should be on a great pay , …….go on strike
Lets talk about kyles salary also CEO's of charities salary. Rich getting richer whilst the poor get poorer.
As there are more people WFH there are fewer taking a train. Same as buses, the numbers are GOING DOWN. IMO the majority of running the trains could be modernised more with less human input. Therefore less people are required.
Who is more responsible and valuable to the public. A football pundit funded by tax payers on 1.3 million per year for a couple of hours a week or a train driver.
there his person work in tv dose get low pay work short term base for few day living wage
I say screw the big companies and bosses etc... Bring the UK to a standstill... Endof
The UK belongs to the people and without the people the rich and powerful are fucked... I say bring the rich and powerful down to the level of the working classes and watch them crawl.. Tony cuenca
😂😂
The fact that this interview is being conducted by a a disgraced TV personality, whom is responsible for a lot of pain and misery plus the actual suicide of a vulnerable man says a lot about this channel.
It's fair enough asking for money when on poor salary. Wa wa shift changes etc. If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen
Train drivers now! So they join some of the most hated people in the UK. Including Jeremy lol
Jeremy Kyle is a knob!
They won't get support from the public, 59 grand is a very good wage. Most of the country doesn't even get half of that. This is a joke
Most base salaries for sales and recruitment jobs are around the mid £20,000s
After 30 years of teaching physics. Final salary 38k. Should of been a train driver. With less working hours.. I had no overtime.
Trains can, and eventually will, be automated, the cost of doing that is better than continuing to pay greedy drivers, those drivers need to recognise that quickly
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Very highly skilled job that 95% of people that try to do it fail. I still haven't heard anyone moaning about bankers, government ministers, Lords, o no the media focus is on a working class person that earns good money shock!!!!
@@regoftherovers7175 well said.
@@regoftherovers7175 no way, someone with logic
There is only one automatic train service in the UK. The DLR.
DO LIE DETECTOR, SORTED!
Great guest. Time for higher wages. Kyle is aiding the skewed culture of pay in this country.
So 54,000 with a median of 44,000 is not enough then?
Greedy twats!
So if a care worker could get a salary of 60 thousand pound a year the train drivers would want 120 thousand pounds a year which means we would all be paying 10 pound for 1 litre of fuel and the rest
Lol
Or maybe they'd think good on them for standing up for themselves and getting the pay and conditions they deserve...
@@kev8816 doubt it if it hinders them getting to work..
@@alexander92179 how many care workers can afford to take trains every day? Funny how train prices always go up by RPI ( government mandated) but wages don't, a race to the bottom doesn't work out well for anyone but the rich
@@kev8816 many actually. It's not that expensive if you book in advance and organise it properly. The ones in London also travel on the tube where the fares are much lower. .
What about markets. I am sure i heard that 25% of season tickets have been cancelled so less demand, yet they are demanding no redundacies, NOT REALISTIC. At £59, 000 you could be a primary headteacher with at least 4 years at UNI and student loan debt. The only reason the railways are having strikes is the legacy of being publically owned, hat legacy means that the unions have a strangle hold on the management. It's only sectors like education health and local gov where this is allowed to happen.
Sorry, but the salary of train drivers, to me, screams automation, not only are you saving nearly 60k per year, per driver, but you're also cutting out the factor of human error on the train system. We're one of very few countries that don't have an automated system. TFL will save a fortune when we eventually get driverless buses and trains.
You still have to have a driver even with automation 🤣
Greed
Shall we pay all 33 million people 10-15% more a week across the country simultaneously? What does he think that will do to an already tumultuous inflation crisis?
Maybe instead of having the trickle down economics (aka p*ssed on) we could have it from the bottom up. We should be able to live spend and save... I don't think it's too much to ask for
@@calicokittenproductions591 bottom up is organic and creates wealth which is better.
Just be warned.. get a pay rise. Then the company changes the jobs description and re advertises all jobs. Then all dinghy divers get the jobs for less money. Also why do train fares go up in January for the same service as previous years?
It is the government that raises the fares by RPI in January of each year IIRC. In Jan 2023 RPI was over 10% , instead the fares went up by only 5% so we the travelling public got a discount!
Where were the bloody unions when the care workers were being sacked ?
Literally..
Its greed, pure simple greed.
They are going to ruin thousands of kids holidays this summer for their own ignorant self centered interests.
They should be ashamed!
Then give them the cost of living increase.
@@e13kid everyone can just do one though yes?
@@justchris123 Rail lines are making an absolute killing. The profits are stuck at the top.
@@e13kid Get a job...coward!
@@e13kid, so you think that a median wage of 44,000 and a top wage of 58,000 isn't a living wage?
I wish I was on a wage anywhere near that amount, and I'm sure millions of others would like to be as well.
So please, tell us what YOU consider a living wage!
They don't deserve an increase at all, and I would even go as far as saying if they strike they should be sacked!
Well after 59000 after taxes how much is tcause how much is that and you don't just sit and drive you're basically risking your life every day to transport other people Just like if you a person who drives for living your chances of getting an accident go up immensely immensely then if you just drive to work partner car go to work come home in your car again twice A-day
What a clown comment! 🤡
So does anyone who drives for a living on our roads and for half of what the greedy and selfish train drivers get.
What?
Care to try English?
@@ianjohnson01 what job driving on roads does a person have 1000 people as passengers they are responsible for? Closest would be a coach driver. Plus millions of people can drive on a road, driving a train is a whole different set of rules and regulations.
Greedy bar stewards! Top wages and want more.
A police officer
A nurse
A bus driver
Are on less than train driver how does that make sense.
These guys get people safely to work every morning and safely home every evening. They’re worth 59k a year.
Agreed
Join a union guys..
Whats laughable is that union bosses are on over 150K per year, utterly pathetic. If they are so productive, trains wouldnt be late would they!! Big pay rises will drive inflation. This guy is economically illiterate.
Why do train drivers etc get so much anyway ?? 🤔
Responsible for the safety of thousands of passengers, dealing with emergency incidents and train evacuations, massive rulebook to have full understanding of.
If you pay less you get a lower quality of employee. A train driver is responsible for the safety of thousands of passengers. Start lowering the pay and you get unprofessional staff who can't turn up to work on time, turn up hungover or have drugs in their system. This aint a job for mugs!
Add to that they have people jump in front of their train. It really is a high quality job and the pay reflects that!
I worked in betting office for 22 years and I have always been on minimum wage and I dealt with far worse abuse and the chance of getting robbed and I worked 40 hours aweek all I got was 14,000 a year and they are moaning getting over 50,000 Jesus they drive a train people out there with far harder jobs
Like care workers and I did care and it’s hard work I take my hat off to care workers I could not do it they deserve better pay so do nurses
Defund Jeremy Kyle.....
JK at his best. Glad you are back!
Haha
Im all for increasing salaries! But this is a bit out of touch! I have a science degree and 10 years of experience and my salary is not 60000....
Degrees dont mean so much these days, back in the 80s and further back only the very best got into university, now anyone can do it thus cheapening the value of all degrees and frankly most uni grads are in no real position to earn greater salaries as they dont have working experience.
'a science degree'
@@AM2K2 yes, a degree in science more specifically chemistry.
@@utrapzab you are so spot on! I mean what use is a gender studies degree after all?!
So happy to see this channel failing more and more every day 🙏🏻
Union bosses are the absolute scum of the earth!
How?
Why?
Fact
@@utrapzab you maaaadddd 😂😂😂
They're pure vermin. All look the same...thuggish, snarling socialist/marxist turds 💩
Normal stuff from Union strike for high pay for doing nothing in return..🥱😴💤
Can I speak to your carer or are they on strike too?
@@AM2K2 they aren't actually