Symphony Of War | Trash or Treasure
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Symphony Of War | Trash or Treasure
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CHAPTERS
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INTRO - 0:26
MECHANICS
Game Description - 1:00
What do you do in game - 1:20
Squad Based Combat - 3:42
Scale Bloat - 4:50
Items that change... - 5:30
Difficulty - 6:10
Gamepad support - 6:55
STYLE
Music - 7:49
Sound - 8:25
Art - 9:37
Pacing - 11:46
VALUE
Game Length - 13:07
Replay Value - 13:24
Score - 14:07
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CORRECTIONS:
Others have reported that gamepad does in fact work, so this is probably just a me issue, so feel free to disregard that.
Cliff Racer Sounds
Thanks for the vid!
I have to say... there's really so little RPGMaker left in it. We spent 6 years and over 100k lines of code making a script suite / tactics engine from scratch - you won't find RPGMaker able to do any of this stuff, and you won't find any RPGMaker game that looks or plays anything like this one.
Rare exceptions being some of the cutscene tiles are publicly available tilesets that yes, other games have used
The hard work shows. It doesn't play like an RPGM game, and it doesn't look like one for the most part. It really is a great game.
Dude congrats i've been replaying your old games lately i didn't even know about this one. Gonna take a look at it :)
Pls port to consoles it would sell very well!
Do y'all have a twitter or something? I saw yer logo pop in the vid and knew I had see you before. It was in Skyborn which I redownloaded to play again and was sad to see you hadn't made anything recently.
tbh the tileset cutscenes are just like... why? Why use them? Why not do everything in text in the "dating sim" or use even just artworks with descriptions? Surely a ton of work was put into the game (I also dabbed in rpg maker so I can see that) but those cutscenes are like one rotten apple on the bottom of the basket... It spoils the whole basket.
Great game otherwise tho.
I’ve got to agree with Strat, Dianna is a Goddamn UNIT
I like to imagine that when she sits on someone's faces, she does her best Bruce Bannon impression: "Diana SMASH!"
@@StratEdgyProductions I don’t know why but I read that as Bruce lee…the image was NOT the same…
@@StratEdgyProductions Unfortunatly, this line evokes The Boys and a certain Pop-Claw scene for me. xD
@@Furzkampfbomber I was neutral about facesitting before. But after that scene it's a hard no for me now
I dont know how we got to keep her for more then 3/4 of the game
Tilde key (under the escape key) fast forwards gameplay. Really useful to get through long enemy phases where Diana kills the entire map in one turn.
Lol, shit, I wish I knew that.
how was the barbeque?
Sigurd anon ftw
Thank you Sigurd.
@@StratEdgyProductions Don't feel bad, it took me a week to find it and I played voraciously. Happened to catch a dev stream where they mentioned it.
cutscene art is jarring? bro thats the core of every jrpg pre 2000s, i was built on games that have 2d sprites basting me with dialogue boxes while shuffling around the screen to pretend they are doing something more complex then raising their arms a bit! this is my lifeblood XD
thx for bring this to my attention! this looks pretty good. just the kinda game for me
I'll be honest, before I played this I was completely unaware that I miss Ogre Battle gameplay this much.
Game is pretty much everything one could ask from a small studio done in an excellent way for dirt cheap, I really hope the studio will grow because if they can achieve so much on RPG maker and coke I would really like to see what they would be capable of with Intelligent Systems (Fire Emblem studio) budget.
Might be a bit random but have you tried The Last Remnant? I haven't played Ogre Battle (before my time) but I have played a lot of The Last Remnant and I hear a lot of people comparing it to Ogre Battle, it's basically Ogre Battle but as a regular RPG rather than a Strategy RPG.
@@GodOfOrphans I did, in fact, I even liked it but I still meant in regards of sRPG.
@@mareczek00713 Ah a fellow of culture I see. Unfortunately I don't have any other recommendations, SRPGs are niche as is and Ogre Battle style ones even moreso. The most obscure SRPG I know is Operation Darkness and that one has no real Ogre Battle DNA.
@@GodOfOrphans Ah, Operation Darkness, I even have a copy somewhere, my Xbox is dead but maybe I'll be able to run it on emulator.
Man you and me both. Good news is apparently it's doing much better than expected, and the post-launch updates have had some *massive* changelogs, so there's clearly a lot of love for this title, so I imagine a sequel would be likely if life stops throwing the world curveballs.
Finally, something to distract me from the 100 degree heat outside.
sure. theres no liquid water and somehow youre alive.
Dude for REAL
@@iopohable mood killer
Finally something to distract me from the -100 degree cold outside
100 Celsius????
This is HUGELY inspired by the classic Ogre Battle games. Dang that's nostalgic.
Edit: Two years later and I can confirm, this game is fricken badass. Get it ASAP.
Certainly not *quite* as "big" but man is it satisfying in its execution, even the music takes you back at times. And they even had the self-awareness to price it very generously.
Everyone I've seen praise the game has done so with an accompanying picture of that juicy donk. This leads me to believe the game is trash. Hyped to find out.
Its pretty good and fun. The blonde hottie is just the icing ontop lmao
Plus she's the best unit and character you have in the story. Her attacks are satisfying af imo
I'm sunk 20 plus hours into it. It's a great tactics-battler game. Given that the dev is still clunking away at it (last update was a fairly hefty UI/UX update) and there's more to come in terms of unit customisation (like naming units/squads, which really tickles my pickles) it's a budget-hit tbh.
you gay?
The update to her dark skinned gigantess counterpart highly competes with her in the early game as well lol. Doesn't get the same kind of "upgrade in assets" however.
A few comments from having just finished this game myself:
1. I absolutely loved it. The lack of Ogre Battle in the world is criminal, and Symphony of War scratches that itch beautifully.
2. You can change the speed of combat animations in the menu, but if you want more, holding the tilde key (the backwards apostrophe and squiggle key left of 1 on most keyboards) gives you warp speed in combat, on the tactical map, where ever.
3. The controller comment is just wrong. Not sure what was going on for you, but I played it through with a 3rd-party Xbox Series S controller, and I know someone who used a different controller without issue as well.
4. The conversation character art is... okay, the way the art is used is classic Fire Emblem and I love it. The art style itself just feels a bit off to me, and I'm not sure why. Like there's a little bit of uncanny valley going on, or the art is a little too smooth and shiny for the rest of the game. I dunno. But it's a minor gripe.
5. Regarding market units, grays are conscripts and always start as a base class (but tech tree upgrades can give them a free upgrade to Tier 2 and make the Tier 2 Apprentice available as conscripts), and you can buy as many of them as you want. The rest are mercenaries and typically come as more advanced classes, seem to have special abilities more often, and can occasionally include special units (having a dialogue blurb instead of the class description). However, they all have -2 Loyalty (costs 2 extra squad capacity) to start, though that can improve with use, and each is only available once. I don't think the game clearly explained the difference between conscripts and mercenaries very well, but it's pretty clear after a couple missions. Conscripts can absolutely be stronger than mercenaries, they just take some time to advance in class (or hit the arena and use some CP books).
So weird. Both my children were born by a single push from their mother....maybe she's more magical than I thought. Of course she did practice months of kegels before she gave birth, she is quite tenacious.
Loved it, obsessed over it, having started with permadeath immediately. It gives actual - imperative - value to the resurrection temples, having to take a hard-hitting team out of play to go run to the temple because you have to resurrect the rogue character you've been trying to grow into an assassin.
However (SPOILER) there came a level where the end of the fight was capped by an invasion of artillery squads that could one-hit an entire squad (the whole squad) from further away than one of my archer squads with fortress wall range buffs even if my squad was inside of cover (reduced ranged damage in a forest). It just so happened that the front lines where the artillery spawned was where my main character was at and my entire squad got wiped with the loss of the MC instantly ending the level. The bonus objectives were geared around how long you can survive this onslaught - it was designed to be unwinnable. Despite that this cost me my highest-level units along with my dragon. You can't replace that with money - only buy low-level peons and (if you're lucky and find one) a baby dragon. Haven't found the will to keep playing after that, having to restart my main squad from scratch with peasants and no big beefy dragon (along with my squad full of heavy cavalry that took a few levels to build up). My head canon says the MC died there and that's that :D
In the version of the game, that fight had permadeath turned off. Or am I thinking of a different fight?
@@StratEdgyProductions It goes straight into a "play the villain" level from that where I stopped playing, assuming my biggest squads were poofed. Haven't seen another management screen yet to confirm that. I'll grit my teeth and carry on in case you're right
@@bloodrain980 I can confirm that before the start of that level they give you a little "hey permadeath is off for this battle." I was wondering why until that invasion where it all made sense.
@@zilaroth Doesn't that just make me a fool and a half. I missed that message. In stead of criticism I can only praise that level then.
@@bloodrain980 I really hope this isn't perceived as patronizing, but I'm legit happy you took that in stride. For what it's worth, you *certainly* are not the only person to have a very strong reaction to Chapter 12, and not only did some people write the whole thing off at that point, even refusing to listen to explanations that they were mistaken about what to expect past that point, but perpetuated their incorrect assumptions ad nauseum.
And don't get me wrong, I don't even have a problem with folks hard-stopping there on principle, though it is robbing them from the satisfaction of what happens next, not to mention a genuinely difficult scenario that, despite being narratively "unwinnable", there's *actually* an achievement for cracking it and defeating the entire enemy force anyway, which has been provably done more than a few times, though it does require a boatload of persistence and/or luck. Far better than clumsy infinite health / infinite damage unwinnable encounters found elsewhere.
"Where a monsterman from beyond is comin to getcha!"
This is the plot to so so so many things.
Glad to see Paulie Walnuts was able to get a new role after the Sopranos
One of the biggest reasons I don't do some half-ass version of your own content is the constant fear that one of my kids will ruin some intense moment by insisting that I slay or multiple requests to do the Gritty.
Great stuff as always, Strat.
I'm from the pixel art community, and I know that the guy who made the battle sprites is one of the best in the world (at least one of the most recogbized).. in the other extreme, the tiles are from rpg maker and they mixed different sets so like.. a flower looks bigger than a moutain
I don't actually play these types of games, but the ogre battle combat feels obviously nostalgic and great, and I really like that the enemies aren't just falling over after the first hit. The HP actually seems to matter.
Always a good day when Strat uploads
I'm not ashamed to admit that I saw a giant strong lady and found out I can lez out with her and immediately bought it. Don't regret.
The lady crusher.
omg
You know, I was gonna check this one out, but if it doesn't feature the vocal talents of the great Dicken Maiballs Jr., I think I have to pass.
Showed the historic Brandon Falls landmark, gets a thumbs up from me.
About controller compatibility (07:40) RPGmaker games can run just fine with controller as far as I know, Princess & Conquest is fully controller compatible and that has full kingdom control and war mechanics.
And that's a one man dev team whose been working on the same project for years.
The global map movement during battle has Shining Force vibes.
The controller issue is interesting, I played through the whole game on a gamepad idk what the issue is but it seems to be on an individual basis not the game itself.
Not used to Strat-Edgy talking a game that I've already/ am currently playing. Feels weird. Loved the video.
I played this game and had a really good time. Im surprised and happy that this game is getting attention and support.
I'm actually a pretty big fan of the combat sprites. They definitely have a lot of love and attention in them.
Less of a fan of the character artwork, they are distinct at the most superficial level, and the design has no personality. I also notice some inconsistency in their design and quality.
Other than that, I'm very excited to buy this game on sale.
Love the Coke rating system. Gave me a tangible understanding of the quality.
I am once again reminded the US use corn syrup. Kinda curious about how it tastes, but at the same time I don't think I should.
@@Ozzianman I'm fairly used to it at this point, but it definitely tastes better from countries where they use real sugar. Even just the texture is so much better
@@faultyinterface Yeah it's mainly the texture that's different. Corn syrup makes the texture more... syrupy, if that's not obvious by the name. Mexican Coke with real sugar is more light, more crisp, more refreshing, and since texture does change how our tongues perceive flavor it ends up tasting a little different as well. I like regular Coke too but I'm always excited when I go to a gas station and they have bottles of ice cold Mexican Coke for sale.
Yeah, one of the first things I noticed was that the portrait images clash with the pixel graphics. They look like something from a mobile game while the rest seems more like a classic 16-32 bit SRPG.
Oh, this'll be good
Well the video will hopefully deliver on what is being promised by the thumbnail.
It was on my wishlist but this review convinced me it should be in the next cart :)
And yes, the RPGmaker screenshots were a bit of a turn-off. As I play a lot of indie RPGs and T-RPGs those tiles and assets become tiring after a while :/
Its fun. Some of the bonds come out of left field but it is what it is.
Oh Paulie, he's endured so much betrayal. How much more can he take?
now that the dlc is out i wonder how he feels now. the art has changed a little. new troops has changed up tatics a bit enemy units now act more like yours and how new game plus has changed replay alot. i do mean alot.
Looks like Ogre Battle with a side of the early Fire Emblems. Good stuff. Much nostalgia.
I love that ranking scale. I will now be using the Diet-Mexican Coke scale for all things now.
Diana is a badass.
Good video I bought the game two days ago and I enjoy it so far. I actually had my first difficulty run it at chapter 11? When you defend the temple guy defects and all the green horses get slaughtered as they run over.
I lost a fair bit of troops before realizing it be suicide to try to make it the apparent timed chest at the bottom of the map.
Seriously, this should totally get an android and iOS port!
Nice reference to Goldman... spot on...
this color scheme is a blight on the world for *me personally*.
I am colorblind. the blue and purple everyone uses are indistinguishable for me. when I put them right next to each other, I can _usually_ tell they are different colors, but heven help me if I need to tell which is which. but even worse, the greens and oranges are almost as bad! I can at least tell those two when they are next to each other, but if they are by themselves? not a chance in hell. they both just look vaguely yellowish.
I'm colorblind too. For this game in particular, color coding when recruiting units is not important. You basically have 4-5 basic recruits who are always at the top of the list with their names in black. Everyone else is a mercenary. I guess their "rarity" is color coded, but I never got what exactly that translates to.
The only time when color matters is when you have allied troops on the field: the only way to distinguish between allied and enemy troops is to mouse over them and look at the background color of their formation screen. Allies have green, while enemies have red backgrounds. It's likely that the sprite outline also is color coded, but I can't tell.
@@Azaghal01 Fortunately aside from Legendary units (orange), which are easily recognized by having unique multi-word names, troop rarity is fairly easily quantified by Class progression tier, Level, combined Stats and pre-assigned Traits they may have. To my knowledge, this more or less is all you are getting from them, rather than improved things done later, such as unique Stat growth through leveling up.
I know that only helps so much, though at least it gives you a reasonable amount of information to make an informed decision, even if it's still a bit inconvenient at a glance.
Loved the Paulie Walnut homage
a friend defined this game as "fire emblem for people who don't play fire emblem so those we play fire emblem can introduce them to fire emblem"
"Okay guys what's the strategy?"
"We put all our units on the left side of the map and then we put Diana on the right by herself."
"But the enemy is all on the right?"
"Exactly."
7:45 Knew where that was going instantly 🤣
Ah yes. Paulie walnuts. Classic RPG character.
I love thee and I am so glad to be able to get to know you better in person
great video! I'll definitely pick this up once I'm done with my other unplayed games
This was a fantastic and enjoyable watch! I appreciate the time and effort you placed into creating this excellent video, and your humor. Well done! 😊
Wow, this game reminds me a lot to Ogre Battle. Thanks for bringing this one.
Diana looks like she’s been created with both hands but only one above the desk level😂😂
Ooh William Goldman reference!
Diana, she IS the brute squad.
Well damn. Console peasant here, and I find it ironic that a PC only game is inspired by games that got big because they were they console answer to PC strategy games. Bright and colorful without being too deep, as to have a broader appeal while not taxing the system.
Get yourself a 40 dollar used laptop, I'm pretty sure this game could run on a toaster wired to phone screen with a typewriter as the keyboard.
This is basically why my Switch and PS5 is always coupled by some middle-class PC switched once it gets over 6 years old for purposes of emulating games from PS2 and older and having access to PC surprises like this one, made by people who use 3rd various RPG makers and similar crap not due to being edgy teenagers with delusions of grandeur but due to operating on shoestring budget.
@@mareczek00713 considering it. Problem there is that unlocks a whole new timesink of gaming, and I already have a pretty impressive backlog. I would rather just seethe, but thanks for the advice.
fantastic review with a charming script and an apt description of the game as per my experience so far. great work here :)
I love seeing standout RPG Maker games shine.
i am now rewatching this because i am so inlove in this game
and yes... everyone is weak against diana -_-
Huh. My wife also took one push for our son, can confirm similar badassery, though.
Pretty much echo your thoughts on this one. Got it on release as a big TRPG fan and while it has its share of flaws (I mostly just didn't like the art style for cutscene sprites / portraits) it was super fun to play and offered a surprising amount of customization and flexibility in your squads.
My favorite game has always been Sid Meiers Civilization since I discovered it.. But when I finally played Fire Emblem on GBA I was in love.. I never even knew the SRPG genre existed.. Probably the only negative with this type of game are time constraints and possible future addiction issues..It looks good and from the footage seems perfect for a platform like Switch..
Diana baby came out flying like 90 going north.
how is this not on switch yet... would be the perfect game for on the go...
ogre battle 64 was my fav game for a long time thanks for the heads up!
Very nice review and I agree with everything in it. Me and my friend played this game side by side from start to end and it was a blast playing through the game and chatting about all the stuff that happens in the story, the ending, the army and squad compositions and other fun stuff we both got up to. Tyvm Dancing dragon for making a really fun game! :)
Edit: started playing it, and my controller works(wired) so maybe they've fixed it since this review, or there was something wrong with your drivers
Besides a few of the convo screens this game looks absolutely beautiful to me. I minimized the video, and bought it 3mins in.
I recently picked this up on sale, and i love this game. I was on the fence about it until I heard that there was a QOL feature that absolutely sold me: i cna skip through all dialogue and cut-scenes.
THANK YOU DEV.
I do not care about story in a strategy game. I dont care about anime waifus, i dont care about dating sims. I want to kill things in clever ways and develop my favorite units into mechanincally unique power-houses.
I really wish the eastern style srpg's would take note of this; i grew up playing Shining Force and FFT but its so rare that get to enjoy games inspired by them because the story development is just so tedious.
Reminds me of the army battles in the Suikoden games, awesome.
Thats right, get the Game, its great!
You got me at "dating sim dialogue ". Sold.
WAIT, HOLD UP A FREAKING MOMENT!!!
YOU CAN BOND WITH DIANA?!?!?
FOR REAL?!?!?
OMG, YOU GOT ME NOW!
When does that become available, chapter-wise?
If you remember that is...
I'm at like chapter 10 still and only have that guy's sister... forgot her name... but am really into Diana actually... for whatever reason... 🤣
I bought the game already. It is cheap and good. I spend lots of time creating my squads. The story is okay. The gameplay is okay. Definitely cheap price for the quality of game that you get
i want to see games like Symphony Of War style with open world map like Mount & Blade game this will be Awesome
As someone who never played any of the Fire Emblem games, I can't help but to compare this one to the Disciples games. Presentation and style are very different, but gameplay-wise there is a bunch of similarities with unit upgrades and combat.
I really recommend anyone who likes this type of gameplay to try Disciples 2 (can't speak for the first and 3rd game, but Disciples 2 is awesome) .... If you can make it work well on a modern system...
Dude, you know about shining force, i love you.
This game was crazy addictive. Just...just one more battle...!
I thought it was going to be some Castlevania mod, but I've been hoping for something like Ogre Battle for years!
quite the enjoyable review without all the bullshit.
8:04 It could also mean that they aren't utilising the soundtracks very well.
Your presentation alone made me went ahead and paid my 12 bucks to dancing dragon.
Nicevid my man!
Gonna try this game - when it's out on gog.
added to my wishlist, thanks
put diana and 2 tanks, preferably paladin or valkyrie at the front、templar at middle, aoe guys next to it, mages sorceress cannons, another set of tanks at the back.
teleport the squad to the middle of the enemies, use exemplar, sit and watch things resolve hahahaha
Im glad im not the only one who dumped a ton of paladins into Diana's squad. She hard carried me.
I love you too mate! Also nice review. Just started this game today and as an avid fan of the GBA Fire Emblem games I really enjoy it. Finally a bit more of a feeling of actually leading an army instead of 10 superhumans.
it seems like a combination of fire emblem(VESTARIA!) and good old ogre battle from snes, really nice feeling
6:20 At least in the new update and ludicrous difficulty, I couldn´t disagree more. This was by far one of the hardest RPG games I´ve played, and it was a refreshing change.
Good video bro, gonna check this out on Steam.
Really glad to see this game getting some press because I've been very pleasantly surprised by it so far - scratches an itch I didn't even know I had. I agree that it's a good bit too easy though. My next playthrough will definitely have permadeath enabled.
I had no issues with gamepad personally so I was surprised to hear that you did. I just plugged it in and I was off, no muss no fuss. I'm using a PS4 controller, and I have no idea how that could make a difference but it's the only thing I can think of that's even somewhat out of the ordinary. Hope you're able to get it working for future playthroughs, because personally I think the UX is WAY better with a controller.
I am here trying to find info on.. yea I forgot what I was searching for? but I came across your video not expecting to find a review of the game. I was intrigued and highly entertained by your video, funny moments and brought back great experiences from past games like this one.
Great review. I agree, this game is great. It reminds me of a game i loved from my childhood that nobody's heard of called warsong.
I want to play it but I don't have 30 minutes to wait 😕
Nice little watch ty
dat diana bit 😂
Dragons are assassins? I've been throwing them up front this whole time..
Still miss Ogre Battle reborn (prefer RTS style move on map and also initiative point for each characters in a fight and targeting unit)
i just knew ogre battle month ago and i am hooked since then, i play it on retroarch snes emu. what a game love it.
Reminds me a bit of Kings Field Crossworld with the squats and artifacts, but Kings Field is a lot harder and can't actually be played with just the mouse 👀
Omg this makes me so happy
This game was excellent, everyone should give it a bash.
I wish I had time for games, just a couple of months to go.
For some reason, while watching this, I thought of a Legend of Dragoon isometric tactic game, that would be cool
Holy crap....! How has the idea of an active turns based strategy game never occurred to me before?! Actual f***ing genius!! 😂
@@codyramsey7217 I was talking about the IP, Sony did nothing with it, which is sad, it was a fun game ( you can't help but love a game with a character's last name like Slambert)
YO THAT'S CYANGMOU'S ART!
0:27 I actually thought this was a Songs of Conquest review when I clicked on it 😅
Rest in piece Tony Sirico.