I think that one of the BIG reasons that groups don't collaborate these days is because it is against the permit rules to recruit on internet message boards. Read the permit rules. Finding people to join your permit on the BUZZ is technically a no no! Take care and have fun...
Nice trip! But I'm baffled why western boaters don't wear helmets in an oar rig. Is it a pride thing or is it ignorance? As a guide with 45+ years experience all over the world, I've seen all kinds of sh!t go down on the river. Things escalate out of control quicker than you think. All it takes is getting surfed in a hole, losing control of your oar, getting wacked in the head, and suffering a traumatic head injury. Or getting your downstream oar stuck on a rock and violently ripped from your hand and whacking your unhelmeted passenger (or loved one) in the side or back of the head! Why risk ruining everyone else's trip because you're too proud or arrogant to think it won't happen to you? Have you ever dealt with a THI in the wilderness? I have, and thank God that we had radios to call for help! That person still suffers from the experience and requires 24/7 assistance for the rest of his life. Sorry for the rant but it pisses me off to see people being ignorant of situational awareness. You wear a PFD as part of safety protocol, why not a helmet?
That's a pretty heavy generalization about western boaters. I was on this trip and most of the people were wearing helmets in most of the big rapids. People have different tolerances for risk including getting on the river to begin with. On this river, at this time of year, and at this flow a dry suit would be further up the risk mitigation list than than continuous use of a a helmet in my perspective, but many people don't wear those. If this pisses you off, wait till you hear about motorcycles. Your mind is going to short circuit. At least you got to tell us you were an very experienced guide, that usually makes guides happy 🙂
You don't want to boat with me then that's for sure. There are times when I don't even wear my PFD....(Gasp and dramatic pause)....I have even swam in the river without one. Like from one shore to the other at a camp. If you are typical of non-western boaters then I am hope to God you stay wherever you are.
I want to get to the Middle Fork Salmon and the Big Horn Crags so bad! I study maps like people read books and can't wait until the kids get a little older for these trips. Fortunate to be so close to Bruneau-Jarbridge, Owyhee, Snake, Payette, Salmon and Boise rivers. Definitely want to get up to the Lochsa and Selway in the massive Selway-Bitterroot Wildeness.
Awesome capture and edit
Hey I've hit that rock a couple times in your thumbnail 😂
Looks amazing!!
Great film. Thanks.
Great film, keep it up. :)
I can even SMELL IT! I hope I can get back there again.
Sweet video. Thanks for sharing. I might have to up my food game 😂
Can't wait to go on this trip with you in a few days!
What a cool group of folks. Thanks for sharing your trip!
Awesome, cant believe I get to go along a year later with Larry in a couple of week!
It’s getting to be that time of year
Happy Boat’N
I think that one of the BIG reasons that groups don't collaborate these days is because it is against the permit rules to recruit on internet message boards. Read the permit rules. Finding people to join your permit on the BUZZ is technically a no no! Take care and have fun...
I bet I know who brought the glowsticks
Nice trip! But I'm baffled why western boaters don't wear helmets in an oar rig. Is it a pride thing or is it ignorance?
As a guide with 45+ years experience all over the world, I've seen all kinds of sh!t go down on the river. Things escalate out of control quicker than you think.
All it takes is getting surfed in a hole, losing control of your oar, getting wacked in the head, and suffering a traumatic head injury. Or getting your downstream oar stuck on a rock and violently ripped from your hand and whacking your unhelmeted passenger (or loved one) in the side or back of the head! Why risk ruining everyone else's trip because you're too proud or arrogant to think it won't happen to you?
Have you ever dealt with a THI in the wilderness? I have, and thank God that we had radios to call for help! That person still suffers from the experience and requires 24/7 assistance for the rest of his life.
Sorry for the rant but it pisses me off to see people being ignorant of situational awareness. You wear a PFD as part of safety protocol, why not a helmet?
That's a pretty heavy generalization about western boaters. I was on this trip and most of the people were wearing helmets in most of the big rapids. People have different tolerances for risk including getting on the river to begin with. On this river, at this time of year, and at this flow a dry suit would be further up the risk mitigation list than than continuous use of a a helmet in my perspective, but many people don't wear those. If this pisses you off, wait till you hear about motorcycles. Your mind is going to short circuit. At least you got to tell us you were an very experienced guide, that usually makes guides happy 🙂
@@de231 It's not a generalization of western boaters, it's fact. And I won't stoop to your level of snide remarks. Have a great day!
You don't want to boat with me then that's for sure. There are times when I don't even wear my PFD....(Gasp and dramatic pause)....I have even swam in the river without one. Like from one shore to the other at a camp. If you are typical of non-western boaters then I am hope to God you stay wherever you are.
@@1carve2I don’t always wear my PDF when I’m not rowing through rapids either. Yikes. We’d get along well! Ha
Plenty of western boaters wear helmets😂 giving some strong get of my porch vibes😂
Y'all take WAY too much shit to the river.
I want to get to the Middle Fork Salmon and the Big Horn Crags so bad! I study maps like people read books and can't wait until the kids get a little older for these trips. Fortunate to be so close to Bruneau-Jarbridge, Owyhee, Snake, Payette, Salmon and Boise rivers. Definitely want to get up to the Lochsa and Selway in the massive Selway-Bitterroot Wildeness.